Previous tariff thread:>>11540362De Minimis is officially over and Japan Post suspends shipments to the US. You can still ship stuff using DHL and Fedex I believe, but be prepared to be charged ridiculous import fees.
Will all this tariff nonsense make you actually stop buying toys? Or maybe limit your spending? I for one have canceled a lot of preorders, but hope to still get my must have figures. Hopefully this blows over soon.
>>11549034>Hopefully this blows over soon.I hope so too, but I have little hope. Even if the goober did have a stroke and we get someone new in charge, I don't know if they'd "fix" things.
>>11549034>Will all this tariff nonsense make you actually stop buying toys?No. Will I be a bit more choosey with my imports? Yes. Will I just start buying them from Amazon and other stores domestically? Yes. I was only saving like $20 by importing directly from Japan. I'll be fine. >Hopefully this blows over soonAlso this. I have a feeling this will be over sooner than later.
>>11549045It’s always going to be zionists in charge of america anon. Not much is going to get better until the country is forced to play ball with other powers instead of unilaterally thrusting itself into everybody’s affairs on behalf of the jews.
>>11549052If that’s the case then why did they allow de minimis before?
Here’s a post I saw on Reddit of someone’s order from Hobby Genki. Roughly $130 and had to pay roughly $40 in fees to DHL. This shit is crazy.
>>11549084For $130 in toys that actually isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Yeah it's still pretty terrible but I was expecting worse to be honest.
>>11549084How long until they cut DHL off again though? Is Amiami shipping to the US at all right now?
>>11549101I’m not sure, but amiami is not shipping right now. All stuff is being put on hold.
>>11549034>Will all this tariff nonsense make you actually stop buying toys?No, why? This is a luxury hobby so I just have to be a little bit more selective on ordering big ass items. >>11549084I expected a ton worse honestly. I can live with this as I always order in bulk.
>>11549104>pretentious asshole responseHey Necanon, I thought you hid tariff threads?
The tariff on toys (from china) will be lifted around November so that Trump can be claimed responsible for saving Christmas.
>>11549109It’s already too late at this point though. Christmas is fucked.
>>11549031Praise God that I got a chance to get MAFEX Brown Suit Wolverine for a decent price before this madness.
>>11549106Kys with your off topic grudge posting retard
>>11549106>projecting this hard
>>11549109Its a several-months process from loading shit up in China, shipping out to sea, arriving in the docks in the US, being checked in, loaded into trucks, shipped out to individual stores, and eventually stocked.Most retails have Christmas stuff sitting in their backrooms by July/August.
Looks like that one anon was right
>>11549106Are you okay?
>>11549104Yeah if it was like this every time it wouldn't be quite so bad. But it's so fucking all over the place...
>>11549109kek, Turnip prolly think like this, but shit is over, you'll have way fewer dolls and like it!
>>11549135What are you even trying to say?
>>11549120Yep. War it is.
>>11549120Qrd?
>>11549145That it's not consistent and we're all fucked.
>>11549150WW3 in two weeks
>>11549149>>11549120>>11549150Americans sure are war hungry niggers and need to make everything about armed conflict. Because you need slaves to make everything for you.
>>11549084>2 imported action figures = $128.93that's almost cheap!>tariff = $19.34Ehhhh... ok, I guess I'll eat it>processing fee to collect tariff: $17WTFThat's like being charged an extra to process sales tax. It's a giant scam by DHL.
>>11549084Fuuuuck Hobby Genki just sent me an email about my Toga revoltech, have people had success cancelling and getting refunded? I already paid in full for the figure
I wanted to see if I could take advantage of the situation to have Nin Nin move my single item into their private warehouse in case I need to ship multiple things together. But they won't do it.
>>11549212I have a bad feeling we'll see a lot of this happening. It's amazing how one dipshit can suddenly break the whole world apart.
>>11549244I have honestly never noticed the actions of a politician cause a negative direct impact on my personal life until now. What happened to nothing ever happens?
>>11549034>>11549045>>11549048>this blows over soonDe minimis has nothing to do with tariffs and is what is suspending shipments from other countries to the US. It's also not going to change. And it's unlikely that even a change in administration would really change it back.It's going to effect anyone (not just toy collectors) who buys small batch things from China, Japan, Europe, and many other countries. In a way, even though I am mostly against this administration and what they are doing, this is actually going to be a good thing in the long run for American workers and American companies, because it will bring some business back to the USA - largely by making a more even playing field. But for shit that isn't going to get manufactured in the USA and hasn't been, it's going to make stuff expensive all the way around.
>>11549031well, hurf durf im retarded because i waited long for no good reason
>>11549286>De minimis has nothing to do with tariffs?De minimis is about NOT paying the tariff though, right?Since de minimis has been suspended, you're now subject to the new tariff fees and other taxes.
>>11549286>De minimis has nothing to do with tariffsDe minimis has everything to do with tariffs, though. It was just a stipulation that you didn't have to pay them on small-value inbound packages.The logic doesn't even make sense, because it DOES make sense to allow small value personal items/purchases to come through if you're just buying a couple items. It'd be different if you were buying products by the palette to be made in China cheaply and then sold in the US. You can understand the logic of enticing people to move the production of those items to the US and the tariffs are a penalty of sorts of doing business that way.Buying a couple trinkets from China or Japan that'll never be made here shouldn't be forced for this to happen. That's why De minimis existed in the first place.
Reminder that one of the driving decisions on paper to end de Minimis was to prevent fentanyl deaths.
What about figures that's were shipped out months ago? Mine is over 60 days in shipped by boat from Japan.Will I have to pay? I'm okay if I do, I just don't want it shipped back.
>>11549157Your skin matches your post content Athena.
I JUST started wanting to collect anime figures now that I Have the money for it. Im just hoping Kappa Hobby ships my order. I bought the Rabbit Hole Miku nendo and that made it past de minimize just in time and I'm waiting on her. My chocolate and vanilla figs are U.S. based so hopefully I'll get those by March 2026. I should've just held my nose and voted for Harris. I didn't know dumpster was going to pull this crap.
Didn't we nuke these guys twice? Why did we let them tarrif us in the first place? 2 obviously wasn't enough. Happy Trump is making these Tojos cry.
I honestly wonder if things will ever get better. I joined the workforce around Covid and it took me years to move up due to Covid red tape. I finally make good money, have decent savings and I'm ready to buy house, then Trump comes and fucks the economy, then continues to make everything worse.
>>11549382The economy was fucked long before Trump. You didn't stand s chance zoomie-kun.
>>11549286>this is actually going to be a good thing in the long run for American workers and American companies, because it will bring some business back to the USAImagine being this delusional
>>11549031Europe already blocked all mail shipments of any kind to US.The problem is that the retarded tariff scam requires customs are paid BEFORE the shipment and literally not a single country in the world has a system for that, nor cares enough to create one. It's easier to just block all mail to US.
>>11549252Are you an actual child or are toys legitimately the only thing you've ever spent your money on? The actions of politician have been affecting the cost of everything I buy, since I started buying things myself. If this is the first time politics have actually directly impacted your life, you must be the most sheltered little boy on the planet.
>>11549031If you're Ebaying then be sure to buy from domestic sellers who have everything in-hand.
>>11549031I may slow down but won't stop. Most of the items I buy are rare 30+ year old toys that I'm finding for great deals. Considering the $ I've saved by hunting for the best price, paying an extra 15% + DHL's fees isn't too awful. If was someone who tended to order really expensive stuff I'd be sweating (but maybe if I was dropping thousands on my hobby a few extra hundred wouldn't matter to me)
>>11549329>>11549305De minimis meant goods came into the country without having to pay any port/custom duties and/or tariffs but it's not a tariff and thus isn't under the Constitution where they are listed as a congressional power (so a new congress can change anything any president does). And tariffs constitutional are also subject to judicial review, e.g. court rulings. The Courts can't really fuck with de minimis, it's well established regulatory and changing those isn't going to impact someone who would have standing to sue - sure some idiots might file a court case but it likely will get tossed out.The point of de minimis was cheap shit (e.g. $1) wasn't worth collecting import duties and taxes on in the 1930s when it was instituted even though $1 then was actually a lot more valuable than $5-10 now, because the amount of time, people, resources, etc. involved to police, charge, process, etc. the duty or custom charges on something that sold for $1, was not worth the 'reward' in the 1930s.The problem was that de minimis crept up slowly ($5, but not until 1990) but in the last three decades, once China entered the world markets, just ballooned ridiculously. It jumped to $200 in 1993, till it hit $800 in 2015. There's no reason for it to be $800. That's China sending 2-5 cheap flat screen TV sets without any duty being paid on them in 2015 and still would be more than one cheap TV set last year.When they raised it to $800, 134 million packages were received under de minimis. Last year, it was 1.36 BILLION packages.If you don't think that's hurting the US economy or workers, then you don't understand math.>>11549399If you don't think $64 billions annually between 2015 and 2025 didn't knee cap some then existing US manufacturing jobs and workers, I feel sorry for your lack of education, sister.
>>11549478>It's actually a good thing that I'm paying double for my XXL undies from fleet farmThe level of cuckoldry Americans are capable of is staggering. Funny you use TVs as an example, because the exact retard in office right now talked up Foxconn opening a plant here and they took a bunch of kickbacks, pocketed them, and fucked off. These new developments do not make it a smart idea to make the monumental investment to start producing most of this shit domestically. It would be less retarded to just eat part of the tariff cost until things change again
>>11549478The thing is nothing has really changed. It’s still not worth collecting: with this amount of packages it’s just a huge amount of people who need to be paid to do the work. A smarter administration simply would have lowered the exemption cap again.
>>11549478This guy is ultimately right. When Obama raised de minimis to $800 you had all these companies taking advantage of it and importing goods without having to pay import fees and the like. That is actively hurting the US economy. Instead of eliminating it outright though, they should've dropped it back to $200 and it would've been the best of both worlds. But unfortunately nuance isn't something the world is capable of in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty five.
>>11549486That's not at all what he's saying. He's saying there were people and companies who were taking advantage of the $800 threshold and that absolutely was causing harm to the economy. He's not saying it's good that it's eliminated entirely. Thanks for only proving what I said in my previous post about the lack of nuance int he world today.
>>11549478You cant reason with people here, im sure you know that by now.
>devastates global economy>refuses to elaborate>leaves
>>11549593No way he’s resigning
>>11549593You wish you fucking dweeb
>>11549394This.
>>11549593There's been so much wishful thinking over this shit the last couple days but I think if it was as dire as people want to believe there would be leaks, the administration has proven incapable of keeping whistleblowers quiet.
>>11549499I think $400 would have been reasonable preferably $500, but getting rid of it entirely is retarded.
>>11549593Trump will die soon... maybe!
>>11549649We can all dream.
>>11549593No way in hell. If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if he changed the law so he could run for a third term. Would be funny to finally see him and Obama have their grudge match.
Best silver lining I can hope for is people actually post pics their toys again instead of endless hype train FOMO posting. Maybe if you all stop jerking to the newest upcoming releases you'll actually appreciate what you ALREADY own.
>>11549593>Fucks over the globalists parasites that spent decades ruining the US economy>This is somehow a bad thingI applaud anyone who goes out of their way to remove the communist encroachment in the US markets. Other than that, fuck the global economy, it never once served the American people in the first place. Only took away jobs and forced the nation to be dependent on enemies for basic goods.
>>11549688>the president who is making the US government buy shares of companies is removing communismlol what if anything he is doubling down on it harder than anyone before him
>>11549593There is no goddamned way that would ever happen. The man likes playing king way too much to ever quit on purpose.Unless he was actually on his death bed and incapable of coming out on stage he ain't giving up his power and he might not even do it then since in his mind that would make him look weak.
>>11549593You better get ready for that third term because that's what we are getting in 2028. Trump 2028, globalists are fucked!
Goddamn, why does collecting toys attract such mentally ill losers? Get your brains fixed you troons.
>>11549709I read that in Alex Jones's voice.
>>11549206DHL wants their cut of the pie too
>>11549714Because you post to this board.
>>11549335And that was an entirely false pretense yet they had to keep repeating it in order to legally justify that.
>>11549373With just a couple misguided executive orders, the entire toy import game is thrown into chaos, let alone all the other industries that rely on low value imports. Stop voting on social issues. Literally NEVER do it. It doesn't matter one bit, as society from the ground up determines social values, politicians cannot make people moral, politicians are often the most immoral people in the world. Vote on who will be better for you economically, and that's it, because one bad policy can severely damage the economy and harm countless individuals. And when they say they're going to do something that will be negative for you economically, for the love of God, BELIEVE THEM.
>>11550229Imagine throwing a temper tantrum because the world doesn't bend over backwards to cater to your niche hobby. Sorry that you have to spend an extra $20 to buy import toys, but you'll live.
>>11550271It's not $20 you nutjob. We're getting screwed by much more than that.
>>11550287just make your own toys 3d printing exists
>>11550287It's literally only $20 more to buy from either Amazon US or BBTS than it was after shipping for me to import directly from Japan. Maybe slightly more than $20 for something like a Mafex or something, but for your average $60 import, I was paying about $80 with Japan Airmail shipping. US sites are only listing SHFs for like $100, some cheaper. Just buy from Amazon and shut the fuck up already, goddamn.
>>11550294Amazon doesn't sell Figma or Revoltech anymore thoughever
>>11550289But would it survive getting hit by a hammer?
Remember last year when tarrifs literally wouldn't have any affect on the price of imports? China was gonna pay for it, right?And now things are more expensive>b-b-but here's why that's good actually! What's the cope gonna be in 3 years when foreign companies don't bend over backwards to develop state side manufacturing and honestly why would they? Every factory not on their soil is a liability. You expect domestics to fill the void? What incentive is there to spend billions over decades to spin up critical manufacturing infrastructure when they can wait to Donny to kick the bucket, that is if the tarrifs even make it out of appeals. Shock treatment was never a viable solution to onshoring America's production capacity. Turns out you can't run a country with "concepts of a plan."
>>11550299Bold face lie. You can get Deathstroke on there right now for $110. Deadpool 2.5 is intjink another $10 more.
>>11550309>You can get Deathstroke on there right now for $110>Sold by Toys Japan Express
>>11549499>That is actively hurting the US economyPlease elaborateThere is just straight up no domestic production for a lot of these goods. There won't be. We made decisions long ago that make that completely unfeasable. I don't know why conservatives think you can put that back in the bottle but it's not going to happen. These companies will just charge you more for imported goods now because guess what, you have no alternative.So the end result is just you and I paying more and the extra money getting thrown into the giant bloated money pit that is the federal government. No investment will be made in domestic production. You are cheering your own ass getting fucked violently
>>11550294amazon is extremely unreliable and doesn't even get most imports
>>11550316Hell, when the tariff stuff was starting, around May, many imported items from Takara just dissapeared. All the listings were either gone or now sold by third party. These were all directly sold by Amazon.
>>11550294Unless you are getting Chinese Knock offs of Diaclone!>>11550308>Shock treatment was never a viable solution to onshoring America's production capacity.Indeed, especially when you are always two weeks away from "Infrastructure Week"!
>>11550308>What's the cope gonna be in 3 years when foreign companies don't bend over backwards to develop state side manufacturingNo cope, only rope. Democrats will have a mandate in 2028 once fat retards realize everything they buy from Walmart is produced in China/Vietnam and they have to buy boutique shit that's literally ten times the price for the same quality if they want that "Made in the USA" sticker.
>>11550328There is a reason they are trying to rig the elections, they are well aware how unpopular this all is before the damage has even really set in.
>>11550313So? What's your point? It's still sold on Amazon that will pay for whatever tariffs if there are any. The point is you can purchase it off Amazon for $110.
>Inb4 globohomo interdimitional likes demonrat reeeeeeI am not against the idea of onshoring but none of the measures taken this year are a feasible way of accomplishing that. The CHIPS and Science act was an ideal model for bringing back industries that we rely on heavily but that process was always going to glacial and wouldn't fit neatly into an election cycle for red team or blue team to take the credit.
>>11550302Do you want print quality, durability, or price? Pick two.
>>11550315>There is just straight up no domestic production for a lot of these goods. There won't be. We made decisions long ago that make that completely unfeasable. So? Why does that make it ok to import Chinese goods without having to pay your duty fees like you otherwise would've had to? Too many shitty drop shipping companies were getting around paying fees to try and over charge people for shitty Temu products. >I don't know why conservatives think you can put that back in the bottle but it's not going to happen. These companies will just charge you more for imported goods now because guess what, you have no alternative.I'm sorry, but the country shouldn't be losing out on billions of dollars annually just so PussyGrabber69 can peddle his shitty merch duty free. I'm all for lowering the de minimis amount to something more reasonable like $200 or even like someone else suggested $400. But $800 is too much and too many people are taking advantage of that. >So the end result is just you and I paying more and the extra money getting thrown into the giant bloated money pit that is the federal government. No investment will be made in domestic production. You are cheering your own ass getting fucked violentlyYou're missing the point bud and quite frankly I'm too tired to bother explaining it further to you.
>>11550340Why should we be charged extra for small items like that? It's horse shit.
>>11550350I literally say we shouldn't but that the $800 limit was too high. Didn't you even read what I wrote?
>>11550309Show me all the new preorders for Figma and Revo on Amazon. >>11550322Yeah they had Figma Marcille for like $60 but took her down and never got her again
>>11550308>China was gonna pay for it, right?Just like how Mexico was gonna pay for the wall. How can he be so retarded
>>11550340>I'm tired and can't explain myself jeez>please continue to read all my paragraphs and essays I will write
>>11550340>I'm sorry, but the country shouldn't be losing out on billions of dollars annuallyAre you one of those retards who still think it is the country exporting or the big business that's footing the tariffs? Lmao, you are dense as fuck. They're all just passing those to the customer. None of these businesses are going to be eating the tariffs.Also, are you idiots really so gullible that you think this money is really going to be used to "pay down the national debt" when they forced through their megaspending bill that is going to add another $4 trillion+ to the national debt?This shit isn't going to do shit except make literally everything cost way more, in a sinking economy that is getting worse with every step taken.
>>11550370>Are you one of those retards who still think it is the country exporting or the big business that's footing the tariffs?No. I'm referring to the loss of money from companies importing goods and not having to pay duty fees when they absolutely should be. I'm all for de minimis existing in order to protect the average citizen from import fees when we buy a random item from overseas, but all these companies shouldn't be taking advantage of the high threshold. Drop it from $800 to $400 and you pretty much solve this. You didn't even read my response going off the rest of your post. Please be less stupid.
>>11550340>Why does that make it ok to import Chinese goods without having to pay your duty fees.Well, what makes it not ok? What purpose do duty fees serve?>>11550340>Too many shitty drop shipping companies were getting around paying fees to try and over charge people for shitty Temu productsThat doesn't even make sense with your own rhetoric. They take advantage of the lower/no fees to ...charge people more? That's not what was happening... The "problem" is the goods offered are too attractive at the prices they were being offered >I'm sorry, but the country shouldn't be losing outLosing out on what? More +tip for Israel? There is no competitive domestic counterpart and nobody is investing in that.You're not tired you're a golem
>>11550425Prices which are taken care of by tariffs so that people are less incentivized to import chink sit from China. They will either buy American, or eventually buy American once manufacturing returns to US shores.
>>11550425>once manufacturing returns to US shores.Its cute you guys still think this going to happen when its very obvious most of this will get undone by the usual game of political musical chairs, most businesses are just going to do nothing for 4 years and hope the worst of this goes away, even while they say they're committing to increasing US manufacturing its all so they can just buy off tax cuts from the current administration.
>>11550425>What purpose do duty fees serve?Are you paying coy right now? Every country does this, the US in fact was the only country that had de minimis in place. >They take advantage of the lower/no fees to ...charge people more? That's not what was happening...I didn't say this. They're taking advantage by importing goods without having to pay fees. How is this so difficult to understand? I never said anything about what the consumer pays. Why is it ok for these companies to import duty free when no other country does that?>Losing out on what? More +tip for Israel? There is no competitive domestic counterpart and nobody is investing in that.Are you people pretending or are you actually retarded? Or at the very least do you not read the post you're fuckin replying to?
Any one actually have a duty charge from USPS yet? I got 2 packages in today that just skirted before the deadline. Is today truly the last day before we start seeing charges?
>>11550454I also got a package in and didn't have to pay fees. But customs had it since like the 26th so maybe that has something to do with it.
>>11550454Pretty sure the plan is for USPS to do fuck all, they want other countries to collect the duties. Who knows.
>>11550432>buy AmericanLiterally not possible for many thingsI'm not sure you understand the absolutely massive investment it would be to start producing shit domestically. So massive that it would be an unreasonable risk to even attempt it before seeing if the tariff shit rolls back(it will), even if it takes 4 years.
>>11550432>once manufacturing returns to US shoresNot happening.>>11550466>I'm not sure you understand the absolutely massive investment it would be to start producing shit domestically.Not to mention labor cost, unless Anon wants to work in sweatshop conditions...
>>11550393>You didn't even read my response going off the rest of your post. Please be less stupid.Yes, I did, and your argument is the hollow BS that companies should pay the tariffs out of pocket, when we all know that they're just passing them on to the customer/consumer.These tariffs do nothing but hurt consumers and/or small legit businesses. This shit is nothing but sweeping measures that, while meant to catch the people gaming the system, but also hurting far more people in the process.And your "well, I'd be fine with lower De Minimis" doesn't fucking make a difference, because that's not what happened. You can't defend this bullshit when the ONE thing that SHOULD have happened to not make this a total clusterfuck for everyone didn't happen.
