Previous >>11531341
reissue packhttps://weibo.com/2352651453/Q3b139mah
Can anyone tell me what kit this is and where to get it from?It's meant to be for os mmc predaking but I can't find it anywhere online
>>11553329I need the Prowl pack man that's like 10 characters easily none of this yellow Shockwave shit
>>11554019Looks like a 3D print to me, probably someone's custom project
>>11554150They claim they bought it from a retailer
>>11553193God damnit I've had this idea for years now and never actually tried to execute it. Now I'll always be in this thing's shadow
>>11554163I think there was an improved KO MP Murderprime that had a similar wheel expansion gimmick
>>11554170Black Apple Optimus. Great figure, even if UT replaces it, he'll still be the best Movie Prime that doesnt cheat.https://youtu.be/sUK8XTdKBjE?si=D-5oLz9DUpyeNbfu>15:40
>>11554205god damn does he really overact his videos these days, i forgot how normal he used to sound
>>11554317Lmao, I had it muted and just skimmed through. A lot of reviewers seem to act purposefully retarded when it comes to 3P.
>>11554374>act purposefully retarded when it comes to 3PHave you met the average tf fan in real life?
>>11554374primevsprime is straight up unwatchable with sound. Same goes for Emgo
Talk about gaslighting, just got Newage G2 Swoop and as I'm sure most of you have seen, he had loose thigh swivels. The thighs have screws you can tighten to make them solid. What the fuck is the point in that webm?! It's a non issue, was it made by a rival brand fag or something?
>>11554675This probably sounds like a joke but you're underestimating how many people own screwdrivers, let alone have any troubleshooting capability whatsoever
>>11554675Maybe you aren't skilled enough to make it spin.
>>11554675The problem with both my Swoop (Toy/G2) and other NA products is that even if you tighten the thigh swivel via the screw, rotating it makes the screw rotate along with it, unscrewing it and making it useless. Unlocking the thigh for dino mode also makes it worse. I don't want to have a screwdriver every time I mess with that figure, which is a shame because I love their G2 Swoop.
>>11554688Let me clarify what I meant by "other NA products", since I was a bit vague. The same thing happens with the Tailgate/Windcharger mold on the panels in the feet, and the sides of the torso (containing the front wheels) on their Optimus.
>>11554675SAAR, pls do the needful and read the filenames because they have the context attached. In this webm, it is as the filename says "NA QC" meaning it is NA QC tester QC-testing the toy. If anything it is because of such QC testing that you happen receive a perfect copy.
>>11554724Here is another example of hardworking Chinese QC tester QC-testing your premium NA collectible figures.
>>11554675Screws are easy to fix, but I think every one of my NA figures has had a difficult loose joint somewhere, and it's usually somewhere annoyingMy puffer likes to fall apart at his mushroom peg, my road ranger had an incredibly floppy arm that I had to fix (and made slight knicks in the paint doing so, but that's my fault), my soundblaster has a super weak ab crunch, floppy rails and foot hinges, my only seeker copy (ehobby ghost screamer) has both loose hips and a super loose ab crunch, and my delta mag's hips are failing him because of the stupid, useless fucking diecast weighing them down. I just can't win with NA.
>>11554755I also forgot to mention my EX megatron who had similarly incredibly loose hips and a borderline unusable, floppy waist joint and ab crunch that puts universe deluxe optimus to shame
The reissue of IF Giganigga Magnus is apparently incoming for those who missed it the first time. Hopefully that means a few other things on their backlog are on there way as well.
>>11554791Source? Been waiting for the Orion Pax and SG version for so long.
>>11554791honestly they should get rid of that tiny green cancer and put white prime like takara is doing with the missing link
>>11554904Missing Link was never going to have the green cunt.
>>11554726>>11554724I wonder how posters like this function irl
This will arrive this weekWhat should I expect
He is here.
>>11554975How did you get him so early
I'm thinking about getting the MMC Foxwire and Nickel set, then selling Foxwire off. Not sure if anyone would want just Foxwire though.
>>11555136I've been trying to sell it off for three years now, nobody wants it.I'll be honest, Nickle isn't great either. Its the only figure she has, but still.
>>11554791I would love to get my hands on their Scorponok. >tfw it retailed for $60 but now it goes for $250+
>>11555286Yeah I was lucky enough to split the set with a stranger who only wanted Foxwire, but Nickle really sucks. I would sell it if I could, but it’s in storage in a different country at the moment.
>newage Sixshot is sold out in bombsbeealready? I missed it in just 2 days? I paid a deposit which expires in 14 days. am I fucked?
>>11555136>>11555286>>11555329>idw characters no one likes in fact do not sellwhy am I not surprised
>>11555476If you paid a deposit, then that means you bought it
>>11554976I placed a preorder with ShowZStore and they sent him to me. I didn't know I got him early.
>>11555756He's a neat little fat retard.
>>11555136If you just want a Nickel figure, I'd recommend the Super7 Ultimate Tarn w/Nickel over the MMC figure. It's a fraction of the cost.https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/187355?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=OPT-Pmax-Non-Brand&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22691610952&gbraid=0AAAAAD_vdsVWq1F-35m1MV20dfcNK5yH5&gclid=CjwKCAjw2vTFBhAuEiwAFaScwpGY_3uN4bkY7MrnYUck_fw3MSEa-dpGAxhxGgaEhkLiHEn5qZME1hoCYOIQAvD_BwE
>>11555787>super 7Fuck Off
>>11555830Suck my fucking clit, faggot. I was trying to be helpful. Eat shit and die. I know Super7 as a company sucks ass. I'm saying in this specific instance, they are preferable. Nickel is a niche character with a niche audience and she only has 2 options for toys. The Super7 option just happens to be far more easily accessible and much cheaper. Next time you feel like chiming in, go masterbate to loli hentai again, cunt. Fuck you.
>>11555830Based
>>11555936Sup, Brian.
>>11556011I just fucking said the company sucks.
is there anyone who picked the toon version?
>>11556168I'm waiting for the chrome version and Greatshot. How is he?
>>11556177not my picture
Truck Boy Ultra Magnus when?
>>11555756>>11555774I wish they gave him a blue bullbar, but otherwise he looks fantastic
>>11556168I'm between those two versions
>>11556012Still burned over getting booted from the CEO position, Big B Flynn?
>>11556347Yes.
>>11556168Blue always looked better than the green.
>>11555756>>11555774I just got him, I love the little fella, feels like a matchbox car
>>11556528I really hope they do more Euro G2 guys.
>>11556534Yeah man, though I'm still waiting for anyone to do Skyquake, I had him as a kid and as you know, he didn't last
>>11556535Why is Hasbro taking so long to do theirs anyway? The Legacy TFP Skyquake/Dreadwind mold has parts all over referencing G2 Skyquake, including ports for sitting the Needlenose plane mold on top.
>>11556535Have you been keeping up with the Fans Hobby G2 figures? I've really enjoyed them for the most part even if some of them are a stretch. It's a shame we'll likely never get dedicated molds for any of these guys. I'm curious what mold they would use for Skywuake.
>>11556672Yeah, I talked with a friend about itWe think they could make it from their overlord mouldThey could turn the jet into him if they remould the nose into legs
Who is this for? Who's jerking off to Rule 63 Starscream?
>>11557780I am.
>>11557780Why is it bad to have something be attractive? If you don't like it, don't buy it.
>>11557780Reminds me of this fan art.
>>11557780Cuckold tfw2005 members come here?
>>11556236Hoping NA does a Magnus minus the inner robot one day.
>>11557780why didn't they just do Slipstream?
>>11558175China didn't get Animated.
>>11558175Repaints are expected.The proportions on this are pretty ugly
>>11557780>Who is this for?
>>11557780OK I'll askIsn't this technically trans.....
>>11558561Former
>>11558561No, it's Rule 63.
October surprise incoming.
>>11558561Don't ask.
>>11554726I twirl my cock like this.
>>11558561GO WOKE GO BROKE! NO TRANSONG MY CHILDHOOD! ANY TROONSCREAM BUYERS SHOULD BE LYNCHED!
>>11558623Supposedly the original treatment of the g1 show made starscream and sideswipe into girls.
https://weibo.com/1794554412/Q3PNWvncv
>>11558965toon or ex anons?
>>11559135Electroplated
>>11559135shadowmaru
>>11559135Trivago
>>11558965I wonder if any MP can hold that six shot as an actual gun.
>>11559135Waited for shattered Glass or Shadowmaru. If those dont come out then toy color.
>>11557780In France they made Starscream a female for some reason. I assume that's the joke about Skips
>>11559135Magic Square.Assuming they don't get shuttered from their retardation.
>>11559135does anyone have any more pics of the ex version?
https://weibo.com/5996546577/Q47eN0uZo
>>11560075Looks better than the NA, but unfortunately, came out way later.
>>11560075>no tail articulation>no gunFFS MS why are your dino modes such bricks.
>>11553193Recently got the FansHobby Armada collection, of Nemesis, Overload, and Spacewarp/Astrotrain, along with the Star Saber, Skyboom Shield, and Requiem Blaster. Optimus is overall great, aside from the sort of naff Mini-con. Overload is perfectly alright. My main issue is with Spacewarp/Astrotrain; Shuttle is good, leg mode is great, the individual robot mode is stumpy, difficult to keep together, and is missing some tabs that would keep some of the panels a bit tidier. But, it's got a serial number on the waist panel, where Optimus would plug in. Mine says 1/600, which is kinda neat? If anyone else here was dumb enough to get this figure, could you check your serial number?
Not exactly 3rd party. But I have a soft spot for 90's bootleg transformers. You don't see as many these days. There used to be some really high quality knockoffs back in the day, but modern official hasbro transformers are now at the quality of those old bootlegs, sometimes even worse now, which I guess put the bootlegs out of business.But there was a line of 90's transformers like toys that were all the same pull back pickup truck with chrome guns that peg all over it, just molded in different colors, red, blue, yellow, etc. Does anyone have any clue what I mean? Came on a blister card, was sold at the 99 cent store before dollar tree existed.
>>11558941Don't forget Ratchet. After all, he is named after Nurse Ratchet.
>>11559989What have they been doing?
>>11562769Nothing but Bruticus after Bruticus with mild differences each time
>>11562769Apparently not paying people what they are owed and tried being Cheapy the Cheapskate with them.I always kinda wondered what was the more evil between the two of NA and MS owners before their split but I think now I can see that MS is to blame for that.
red blue green just does it for me, it's the starter pokemon coding
>>11563356>>11563357I hate TFP and everything it has come to stand for, but these figures are really nice.
>>11563467What does it stand for. I thought opinions on it were prety mixed.
Ikeabot, can we trust him?
>>11563562Dumb story telling and feelings writings
>>11563357I’ve always been an articulation snob, but I still think First Edition Bulkhead is one of the best ever mainline figures despite the lack of waist swivel and ankle rockers.Arcee is an all-timer too, but I wish they could have buried the front motorcycle wheel into her back somehow. Optimus is impressive, but the heel kibble always bothered me.
More vaporwarehttps://m.weibo.cn/u/5505898950?luicode=10000011&lfid=1005052207101993
>>11563800
>>11563801
>>11563802
>>11563803
>>11563806
>>11563807
>>11563810
>>11563814
>>11563816
>>11563801>>11563810Transformers?
>>11564130Lubu and Guanyu are. The low rank guys don't transform.
>>11563753i definitely agree. what they lack in movement, they more than make up for in silhouette and presence. bulkhead is huge compared to the car he squishes into, and arcee is pretty graceful when you don't count the shoulder bladesif optimus's waist swivel didn't break his sculpt entirely, he might be my favorite prime toy.apc toys make bumblebee and starscream pls
More horrific looking chinese mythology bullshit with the worst armor designs known to mankind combined with mecha aesthetics crapped on top.
>>11564332Lubu Phoenix looks cool as fuck. Like it or not 3K/Mythology shit kills in China. Cangdao has THIRTY metalbuild chinese Gundams up for pre-order. If you're looking to sell Transformers in China its a no brainer to copy this style, Japanese Samurai demons already have two brands competing for the niche. Vanilla remakes are basically finished in all scales besides obscure series that aren't popular in China like Animated and G2.https://gundamit.com/products/?Narrow=131
>>11563801>>11563802>>11563814Are these the new labubus my wife's daughter is obsessed with?
>>11564392Yes. You should buy them.
I am a nerd for movie transformers. Anyone get this one? I didnt know UT made Stinger. I own Peru Kill it is well built if a bit simple.
>>11564460Not out yet but looks better than Peru kill, may or may not roll well or be delicate.
https://weibo.com/7893992402/Q4XLyd4XxEh?>27cm individual robot mode>Blokees proportions
>>11565247I wonder what happened to their Tigerhawk?
>>11565247>shidi>shitty
Are all MP Blitzwings going to have "cartoon accurate" altmodes?
>>11567391If they're gonna be cartoon accurate robot mode yeah I would think
Lasercat'shttps://weibo.com/7881266182/Q5gFG4tEJ
>>11567391Isn’t this the only one that has it?Why do you mean all?
>>11567400I'm so fucking tired of this shit. Just make another robot that splits into the combiner parts. Theres more than enough mass to make a "leader" sized partsformer. Also lame baby faces.
>>11567852if you dont like baby faces just go buy a normal Volcanicus then these arent targeted at you
>>11567852... tired of a niche?
>>11568138Any combiner in 2025 that is frameshit or partsformer shit is an instant 0/10.>>11568081SD Gundams have existed for over thirty years with acceptable faces. SD doesnt need to be ugly.
>>11567852>>11568225Gotta be honest anon, idk what it is with SD combiners specifically, but I really don't mind them having a frame like this. Maybe it's just being used to SD Gundams that are openly toys, I dunno, but that's a lot less egregious than most combiner frames these days. In fact, aside from the body section that's what older combiners used to be, add on head, hands, feet, and accessories (wings, in this case).As for the faces, that's just the Chinese style really, love it or hate it.
>>11564491I bought it, it is arriving next week. I will let you guys know how it is.
>>11568393The chest block, wings and maybe even the hands could have been made into another Pterodactly
>>11568666The wings are Swoop's that they duplicated for the promo pics.
>>11568870Have the feet split in half and make a four legged dinosaur using the chest as the body.
didn't expect this geetoo reedoo veetwohttps://weibo.com/2352651453/Q5D7TjDkM
Magic Square being absolute trash at their release schedule made me cope purchase NA Sunstreaker despite my initial plan of going all in on MS Cartbots.
>>11569595Damn was hoping for a 2.0 Optimus, Ironhide/Ratchet or an ArceeJazz even
>>11569595RID scourge when?????
>>11569595Any news on the Skoprinok Dr. Wu is doing?
How do I buy AS 08? Theres tone of sellers on aliexpress, but I heard there are diffrences in quality.
>>11569811Scorponok, Omega Supreme, Flywheels, Battletrap and this Laser OP are all next year.
NA TyWHOhttps://weibo.com/1794554412/Q5IUlFgUP
Turns into WHATsaurus
Large than I thought
mangmotion's photoshttps://weibo.com/1735145277/Q5IOZxkT0
>>11570033>>11570034>>11570037This looks awful and I feel like NA took the wrong lesson from their Devastator overalls.>>11570039And this is fine but it's not for me. To get this result is not worth putting five dinobots up.
>>11570039cool combined mode. the flared out arm gauntlets feels super robot.i would love for a company to try this design though
>>11570054Isn't Studio 01's based on that?
>>11570055oh sick, i didn't know they were doing that. hope it gets
>>11570058*hope it gets made
Does anyone happen to know here to find this upgrade kit for NA's SG Megatron? Found it here -> https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/3p-legends-upgrade-kits.1255529/ <- and now I have a desperate need.
>>11569595>>11569796Shit this just made me want spychangers from Dr wu
>>11570033>>11570034>>11570039Combining Dinobots have literally never worked for me and I wish people would stop trying. They're too rounded or something.
>>11570090Well, it’s mostly an afterthought, though I think Cyberverse version works
Why is FH bumping posts of black Power Baser from 2018? Are they doing a reissue?https://weibo.com/6066076441/Q5KkOi14Khttps://weibo.com/6066076441/Q5Kl5aRrwhttps://weibo.com/6066076441/Q5Kl7g2Oi
>>11570351Probably. Takara announced their MP Black Ginrai a while back, wouldn't be surprised if they reissued theirs to try and get in on the action
LmaoPeople cry about how pants suits are bad and then NA fucking does this as response This thing barely qualifies as a transformers toy. It’s just a pants suit with a head on top.
>>11570424Seriously does this appease the anti-frame people at all?
>>11570424What the fuck are these proportions?
>>11570431No one gives a shit about ant-framers.
>>11570424Love how this just doesn't match the hyper-toon aesthetic of the rest at all. They deliberately wet out of their way to do this, and make the whole package look worse for no reason
>>11570039>swoop dose nothing and snarl looks like he's humping his leg
>>11570424It's better than the SD's implementation by attempting a robot and vehicle but they could have done so much better. Swoop should have been the entire forearm, leg bots should have been shoes and grimlock could have been way better integrated into the chest. It seems like a common problem with framebiners to have perfectly foot sized leg bots hang uselessly instead of being the shoes. Pic related.
>>11571012Using an IF figure to complain about transformation is hilarious
>>11571138The cars are the perfect size anon. They could have used the unused frame mass to give the car feet Geta.
>>11571148
>>11570406Ok nvm they are now bumping old regular power baser and monsterbot weibo posts, i think it's probably some part timer trying to hit their daily quota.
>>11570034When do the third party neck extenders get made
>>11570431If the frame-bot itself was a perfect transformation figure I would be all for it (dino robot frame mode without removing any parts). Needing to be reassembled for all 3 modes kills my interest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otDaBaO_wD4>that chest windowwho approved this?
>>11571536I’m hoping this is just their test buildThe first product images had frosted windows and similarly Blitzwing was a different colour in videos compared to releaseI still think he looks great though
>>11571148Look, I’m just telling you that IF doesn’t have good transformation engineeringThey just make figures with kibble that turn into a shellformerDon’t go expecting any clever engineering
>>11571585Its literally just Toon Menasor. IF cope doesnt work here.
>>11570431>>11570424>>11570039>>11570034Looks fine to me. I'm sure some framesperg is going to have a melty in thread though.https://youtu.be/EDieS2WtsU4?si=LDb5LWBm2Slh3AB5
>>11571638Anon loves penisaur
>>11571150Kneel
>>11572021>>11571150>>11571012When the hell is this thing coming out anyways?Or at the very least the Black Arachnia they showed off.
>>11571627It’s even less effort than toon MenasorIF just can do much as far as transforming goes
>>11572087Can’t*
>>11572021Get on my level
Auldey's AAE is just very slightly taller than Jinbao's Seekers.https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10024140881
Anyone here have Defense Fortress Vladivostock? Was wondering how good it is, and how it compares to the Hasbro Trypticon?
>>11573586Pretty amazing for its price. Very close to what current Hasbro would make I think, in both positive and negative ways. It's smaller and less bulky than Hasbro Trypticon but that works for me.Is the reissue without the LED panels out yet? I'd get that. Installing them and changing all their batteries is a hassle, the end result isn't that fantastic since the LEDs are too bright, bleeding light all over.
>>11573716Got a Pic of him standing straight next to Trypticon? Sounds like he might just be the perfect size.
>>11573735Google "siyang metroplex trypticon" there are plenty of comparison pics. Problem with TR Trypticon is that its height can vary a lot depending on how hunched you pose it. T30 matches Trypticon's tallest, fully upright height, while this SY one is at the low end.
>>11573741Yeah that looks good to me. Thanks anon.
Anyone have a link to Iron Romance's weibo?
>>11574107Nevermind, forgot they put links on the backs of the boxes,lol. https://weibo.com/u/7612335762
>>11564460>>11568476So one of them arrived but not stinger. Of course. The other one is metagate's red mercedes version of haiku. I don't really like it but at least this doesn't turn into a tardycopter. >but it was in the movie Tardy.Copter
>>11554974For being a bootleg ass Optimus, that has to be the most sovlful description ever.
Anyone buy Touch Toys stuff? Tempted to get one but I don't know which.
Just when you think XTB have hit the bottom of the barrel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPF9Duatcd4&t=1s
I've not bought a Fanstoys product since Soundblaster but are they using AI to make their box art now?
>>11575986I don't think so, though they have used it for some of their videos
Sample, comes with a different combined headsculpthttps://tieba.baidu.com/p/10077312191
>>11576046Isn't this, Hasbro combiner-sized?
>>11576047Volcanicus is a big combiner, were you expecting him to be the same size?
>>11576051When was that ever the case? PotP's is the same as other combiners, Legacy's Core class one is uniquely small, even those 3P MP ones are 20" to match other combiners.
>>11576059>When was that ever the case?When the fact that the Dinobots are nearly twice the height of every combiner bot
>>11576109True for non-combining Dinobots but not for the combiner Dinobots examples I listed. What's your point anyway? It's easier to admit that NA Volcanicus is simply an afterthought instead of coming up with your schizo explanations.
>>11576113I know it's an afterthoughtDoesn't change what I said
>>11576117It changes your denial to copium.
>>11576121I'm not buying it because it looks shitAgain, doesn't change that volcanicus is just a bigger bot
>>11576127Then why are you even defending it? And Volcanicus being larger is only in your schizo mind, take your meds already.
>>11575746oof the weibo/bilibili versions are more brutal with additional text commentary and music choices.https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:5215184369942542
>>11571627Actually G1 Menasor had the robotic parts of the car limbs bulging out to form the super robot limbs. Third Party toys have unironically been the ones pushing "Menasor is just Motormaster wearing cars" narrative.
>>11576187I wouldn’t use the cartoon for consistency (pic related)I’ve always preferred the OX versions of the combiners to be honest
>>11576235
lol pee https://weibo.com/2352651453/Q6GYAm6I8
I feel like Rail Racer is overdue for a 3P entry. I prefer legends scale, but Fanshobby could probably make something impressive.
>>11576047I’m warming up to it a bit but this needs to be like $120 for me to maybe budge on it what fees like a vanity project
https://youtu.be/2Jy0IUCMKJo?si=kBbrPYAjYl_Us7rMStill waiting for the Nicee burger
>>11576371>Fanshobby>not a G1 designThey would remove the asymmetry, ruin the proportions, and fuck up the face sculpt for no reason at all.
>>11576815>ruin the proportionsBuddy you're responding to a post about Team Bullet Train.
>>11576980Then that means Fanshobby will sculpt perfect proportions for Team Bullet Train.
>>11576371just jump on the Shinkalion train already, takara knows best.
https://weibo.com/5996546577/Q6LSpFkgWTheir dog looks more expressive than NA's
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10082759584side by side
>>11577105
>>11577106
Do the last 3/6 modes even matter? It's like a "which is less bullshit" competition.
>>11576046he would be great to me if all the bots had the same color combination. the left arm and leg look weird I think. I like the head though. I prefer it to the toon version which is grimlock's head with horns
>>11577108why NA didn't bother to paint the car windows at least?
>>11577039>>11577105>>11577106>>11577108>>11577111>>11577114>>11577117MS crushing NA in aesthetics as usual, I see.
>>11577105NA for sureMS legs are nice>>11577106NA here. The MS head is too upright and long, Arms are really just Robot arms but with flip out bits. The NA at least looks different enough >>11577108MS cleaner here. A lot cleaner>>11577111NA for me but could use some better details like the MS does>>11577114NA definitely. the chunk under the Missile Rack looks like a Cab so it better gives the profile of a Missile Vehicle tho MS top looks better>>11577117NA looks better because the MS really is just "He lays down" and it looks stupidNA could be cleaner and better looking but the MS is so awful here
Jesus fucking Christ I might buy another set of dinobotsAnd I was initially super against this at first
>>11578717>fingerprint and scratch magnetFucking disgusting.
Dr Wu ChadsShowZ told me I can pay remainder on>Red Warpath and Scourge>Double Sweep set>Green Go Bot Warpath and Alpha Trion
>>11578829What are you doing that you are scratching Newage paint
>>11578927>>11554724
>>11578930Joint tolerance issues is not paint issues.
october thread>>11578935>>11578935
>>11577716>NA looks better because the MS really is just "He lays down" and it looks stupidAre you blind? They're both just laying down, almost in the exact same way. NA doesn't even flip the fucking feet away
>>11558941>Supposedly the original treatment of the g1 show made starscream and sideswipe into girls.not supposedly, it's confirmed that was the pitch.And it was rejected, specifically because the toys were already made, and they thought having toys designed as boys then drawn as girls in the show would be confusing (especially starscream, who's mold mates were male)So literally, they rejected the idea because it would just come off as a man in dragThey said girls were fine, but they'd have to invent new ones.
