i'm curious about what bugs people in their toy fandome.g. Hasbro releasing Transformers that can only half-transform
>>11558985That piece of crap made me SOOO MAD I thought I was getting a nice little Starscream toy but all it can do is gerwalk, FFFFUUUUUUCK
>>11558985On one hand, it leaves me bewildered as to why any kid with an internet connection who's aware of the fully transforming things would ever want them, as opposed to the younger kids who are more likely to just break them trying to half-transform them.On the other hand, it annoys me when j swing by the toy aisles to see what they've got and it's just hundreds of unsold cheap B-line crap instead of anything worthwhile or interesting.
>>11558985Any figure that doesn't include symmetrical swappable hands. Mattel and McFarlane have been guilty of this when not including fist options for both hands but Hasbro tends to do it as well with stuff like the No Way Home Spider-Man figures.
Any transformer jet or spaceship that is basically a box with wings...
>>11558985Hasbro's "Cartoon colors" Transformers reissues. Those pissed me off. It was just an excuse to not include the stickers nor spend money on vac-metallizing while reissuing.
>>11558985when they reissue an old toy with a heavily desired new accessory so you got to buy the damn thing twice
>>11559098To be somewhat fair at least this one doesn't suffer from the yellowing issue the original one does.
>>11558985Pixellated faces on Barbies
>>11559104which makes it worse that you still have to buy the first one if you want both Laserbeak and Buzzsaw
>>11559098>Stacy Malibu.... with a new hat!
>>11559098>>11559144you don't have to buy it
>>11558985If it's anything related to Japanese toys released by Bandai, Premium Bandai has been the bane of fans for years. Even with foreign P-Bandai sites being set up, not everything makes it here.
>>11559098some people were duped into buying this shitty mold 3 times, I pity them
>>11559276it's justified to exploit and make money off retards
>>11559272I do if I want the guys that only come with it
>>11559502then you deserve to get scammed
>>11558985>>11558996They had nerve to release these.
>>11559098>Doesn't yellow>Comes with buzzaw, rumble and ravage>Was salt in the wound for the faggot scalpers sitting in a landfill of yellowed netflix soundwavesRare hasblow win.
>>11558985toys so expensive, you simply cannot buy them. it's one thing when a 2nd-hand scalper charges outrageous money, but the company themselves?for example...Lego finally makes a Star Trek set!it'sFOURHUNDREDDOLLARS
>movie toys>figure looks nothing like the character in said movie
>>11558985frameslop combinersutterly fucking soulless, lazy, and looks like shit
Mexican retailers ordering the shit out of wave 1 of a line and then never order any subsequent wave ever again.
>>11559767That's cause it's a book toy :^)
>>11559272you don't have to buy anything here. Its a toy thread, you retard.
>>11560689But I don't know how to read.
>>11558985I hate P-Bandai. I hate most of Bandai stickers except foil ones and waterslides. Why they just won't put waterslides in every kit? Scale models manufacturers do that, even the shittiest ones. I also hate fucking Lego stickers and it seems the quality of their plastic went down compared to my childhood sets from early 90s. Also I hate the new "matrix printer" style tampos on Hot Wheels, similar to >>11559137. That seems to be the most of my concerns.
>>11559507You deserve AIDS
Why do so many modern toys feel like bootlegs?People who have never felt the difference between real and bootleg toys in the 90's won't really understand the feeling.But there is definitely something off about modern main stream toys that I just can't quite put my finger on, other than the quality has dropped off so hard they're just producing garbage.
>>11562387Softer plastic.
>>11559767Man I still wish I had him. My family gave so few fucks about me that they wouldn't even buy me cardback solo figures. No Dennis Nedry, no GI Joes, no Visionaries. Most of the money went to shit my parents wanted. I grew up with my brother's hand-me-downs and I wore the same clothes all throughout highschool. Damn.I wonder if Hasbro will ever re-release him.>>11562387Softer plastic like the other anon said but also worse quality plastic. Plus toys now are either hollow (transformers), have worse plastic injection (playmobil), or they don't have as defined edges and details (Marvel Epic Hero series).
And frigging ratchet joints. This Spiderman's elbows are so stiff and the plastic on his arms so gummy that the arm bends before the elbow does.
>>11558985They tell us tooling is so expensive and then go make tons of stuff like this, often the same design with a different joint hobbled/missing, instead of just making higher production runs of fewer etter figures.
>>11564038That's why Third Party is superior to the baby crap you demand so badly.
Poly hair on dolls. Has a chance to disintegrate and hard to style
>>11562387They've adopted many of the cost-cutting techniques you used to only see in dollar store toys. Multi-part assemblies are replaced with simple hollow shells (with corresponding changes to the sculpts to avoid issues ejecting the parts from the molds), pins and screws replaced with plastic clips or pins, and, on Transformers, cheapo clip-on wheels that don't roll for shit. And everything has less stuff in the box for more money. Even the packaging is thin, cheap crap now. Seriously, buy a MISB toy from 20+ years ago and marvel at how thick the cardboard was, how elaborate the tie-downs were, how many paper booklets they packed in. Some just for ads!
>>11559001>it's just hundreds of unsold cheap B-line crapToy Aisles really are full of junk. Every Super Target I have hit has had one or two full aisle (meaning both sides of ONE aisle) full of discounted stuff, and you expect some of that to be too much Minecraft and the excessive of Super Mario stuff, but it's also entire sections of those idiotic Mr. Beast branded garbage and Skibidi toilet plastic junk.But people see literal ugly garbage like the Lububu craze and figure one of these idiotic ideas will also make bank. I wondered into two Ross' today since they were less than a mile apart from the doctor's appointment I went to, and they had full stuffed shelves, which looked like wholesales warehouse clearing stuff for the holidays, but it was all markdown to $3.99 to $9.99, even stuff like Bandai.
>>11559086>Plane on top>folded-up robot on bottom. Hasbro and Bandai really need to pay attention to what Bandai and Kotobukiya have been doing with Macross for years.
>>11559767A lot of actors refuse to hand over their likeness rights for a movie because once a movie studio has it, they own it forever. Imagine Disney being able to make new Star Wars and Indiana Jones without Harrison Ford but using his likeness deepfaked onto someone else. They legally can. 100 years from now they can still make new stuff starring the faces of actors who are long-dead. So a lot of actors just won't hand over their likeness rights for use in merch.
>>11571485>Hasbro and Bandai*Hasbro and Takara
>>11571485I say this all the time, bit the biggest issue is that Transformers designs are largely trying to adapt show/media designs where the robot modes are largely made up of parts not in their jet mode, and their jet modes are largely based off real models. outside of the legs vaguely being made of engines(with way more parts than are on the actual one), the jet intakes, and the cockpit, very little of Starscream's robot mode is on the jet mode. So they have to be stuffed in and reveal themselves that way. And that's one of the more workable TF jet modes. The aerialbot robot modes have nothing from the jet modes on their robot mode facades.It's not that Bandai and Kotobukiya are doing it better themselves, it's that Macross designs are made from the ground up by Kawamori to work out as sleek, functioning models. If you look at how Macross jets are designed, very often their thrusters and fuselage are slightly thicker or more pronounced than real world jets to allow for it to be more seemlessly worked into robot mode parts, and outside of the head/hands and some panels being revealed, there's very little parts unique to the battroid modes that aren't on the jet. In a sense it's like the jet is made up of bits intended to go somewhere as the robot, and the robot is made of jet parts. even the heads are meant to be more naturally integrated.
>>11558985I jumped from Lego into action figure collecting. What pisses me off is that you are forced to preorder everything. Stuff is sold out before it's released. That's annoying as fuck, you either gamble and preorder then pray for the shit to have quality as advertised or wait and pay 2-3 times to a fucking scalper. I rather skip the fig than pay late tax.
>>11571548Eh. When you've been collecting long enough you'll be able to spot the stuff that'll be difficult to get thanks to demand and scalpers, and won't have to pre-order everything. You can generally tell by the Internet hype as well as the aesthetics of a given toy.
>>11571511The mistake was letting the G1 franchise define the looks of these characters for all eternity, since most of those designs are boxy garbage intended to be easy for korean slaves to animate, above all else. 40 years later and we're still beholden to that shit?It REALLY sucks because the Missing Link line is essentially proving all you have to do is give better articulation to the original pre-Sunbow figures, and they immediately become more compelling and fun than any of the mainline shit from the past 5 or 6 years. Because they're trying to be actual toys instead of plastic simulacrums of a chink toy commercial.Alt modes should ALWAYS come first, with a focus on a simple, straightforward transformation. Any other way, and you're doing it wrong. Sorry, Tooners.
>>11571646>bitch-storm about G1>with a focus on a simple, straightforward transformationG1 had that. I wouldn't mind complex transformation if it got us better-looking aircraft instead of "plane on top and folded up robot underneath." But IT DIDN'T. Not from either Hasbro or Takara. The only one who delivered was Fanstoys Powerglide.
>>11559498>exploit and make money off retardsThis is literally just the cornerstone of their business model. It was always there, but ever since Siege began, they specifically conditioned collectors for it. They realized it's easier to get a small group of obsessive enthusiasts with disposable income to buy the same overpriced toy multiple times than it is to actively market a dynamic selection of quality products to discerning consumers.Well, that and convincing collectors that size and price point are irrelevant to one another. Profits decline rapidly as plastic cost and quantity increases, so the bigger size classes were always sold at less of a margin. That's why they've pushed for smaller toys to be sold at larger price points under the excuse of "better engineering (?)", and completely abolished the core class all together. They never want you to pay under $25 for a Transformer ever again.
>>11571650>They realized it's easier to get a small group of obsessive enthusiasts with disposable income to buy the same overpriced toy multiple times than it is to actively market a dynamic selection of quality products to discerning consumers.That's literally He-Man and Final Fantasy VII in a nutshell.
>>11571650>>11571653Also there's nothing wrong with maintaining an iconic look. They do it with Superman and Batman and no one complains. And G1 Optimus Prime has an iconic look, as do other Transformers.
>>11571648>G1 had that.No. Diaclone/Microchange/Macross/whatever else G1 stole from had that.>I wouldn't mind complex transformation if it got us better-looking aircraft instead of "plane on top and folded up robot underneath." But IT DIDN'T. Not from either Hasbro or Takara.It's not the "complex transformations" that caused that, retard. It's the fact they were trying to be accurate to the G1 cartoon designs from the 80s with a modern budget for mass-produced toys. Which is exactly what I was saying was the problem.>>11571653It's most things in a nutshell, because shareholders invest in corporations with the understanding that their profits will increase infinitely, forever, which is a fucking retarded thing to promise. It was a sensible business model during the industrial revolution, up until it wasn't.
>>11571663>They do it with Superman and Batman and no one complains.Batman and Superman didn't start out as toys, and their "iconic" designs don't actively impede them from being objectively better toys in the way Optimus Prime's "iconic" western design does.Complete and total failure to understand the issue at hand, lmao.
>>11571650aren't they doing a whole line of characters that didn't have toys before (the 13)
>>11571666>No. Diaclone/Microchange/Macross/whatever else G1 stole from had that.No one outside of Japan knew of any of those things until Hasbro repackaged it as Transformers. >It's most things in a nutshell, because shareholders invest in corporations with the understanding that their profits will increase infinitely, forever, which is a fucking retarded thing to promise. It was a sensible business model during the industrial revolution, up until it wasn't.Most companies never pay dividends, so stocks are essentially like trading cards where you hold on to them until they gain in value. Most investors are long-term investors, and even if by inflation alone stocks will rise over time.
>>11571672That's an mp-10 problem. Most versions of Optimus put in a reasonable attempt to either streamline the legs in an appealing way or shift the leg mass into his cab.
