Previous:>>11571033
>>11576987There’s a missing link soundwave?
>>11577000yes the chinese unicron leaker confirmed it
>>11577000They announced they're working on a decepticon, and a reliable leaker this week claimed it was soundwave, which is the obvious choice as it requires the least work
>>11576987>Upcoming Transformershttps://pastebin.com/nh6mbtfw (updated)>Leaks and Rumorshttps://pastebin.com/2QivfSSE>Online Stores for TFshttps://pastebin.com/3raSp3ZY>Where to watch TF shows:https://pastebin.com/sR4Y7xWi (updated)>Transformers General Archives:https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/subject/%2Ftfg%2F%20-%20Transformers%20General/>New thread on page 9 or 10 or at image limit
>>11576987couldn't even wait 4 more images huh. you could have even added one or two yourself.
Finally clean up enough space to take this out of the storage to display it I don't get it Technically speaking this thing is a lot more impressive than brawl and BonecrusherBut for some reasons everything is just loose Everything tabs in, but nothing locks The forearm side panels just like stay there it dont hold on to anything the second you touch it you just come right offAnd the worst thing is about the hip The ratchet barely work and just kind of flopped all over the place because the spring is too weak to hold the upper body so every time you do a slightly wide post the legs just split Search around forums and look over some review videos, it seems to be somewhat wide spread problem but all of them have it. I think it is a production batch thing. The hip can be fixed but some modding is needed, but I am already playing almost like $150 why do you need to do mods on the thing? It should work right out of the box
>>11577056Got mine for 80 and he's perfect. Sucks to be you.
>>11577019Kind of disappointed its not Megatron, but yeah, Soundwave makes sense since the original toy was already pretty posable, they just need to add some knee joints. Will they add some of the cassettes as well, maybe Buzzsaw?
>Flesh isn't life. Servos, gyros and fuel, this is where life comes from! You're defending by-product, at best! I will restore Cybertron and retake the galaxy!
>>11577065>Sucks to be youOh wellI guess because he has to transform into a helicopter, blackout is probably the most compromised of the non-main three baddie decepticon Like putting the RNG paint jobs asides, everything works on Brawl and Bonecrusher. Pieces actually secure to proper locations. Where as Blackout is very fiddly. The old SS is that like too.Like how deep can a tab hole go when it is also part of thin fuselage wall? The 2 chain guns don't even tab well because the shallow dip. And the plate on the bottom of the feet just slide with nothing to secure them beside the moving heels and toes. Anyway, not much I can do for most of the tabbing issues. I am going usr a lot of yamada grip. I have "varished" the hip joints so at least the figures holding right now. I have order some 3 mm washers I think I'm going to do that mod job. >Getting another figure Yeah noNot at least until reissue
I think these three look pretty good together, even if I walk away more disappointed with Alpha every time I mess with him.
>>11577101is Alpha a pretool of someone else? He seems really off in looks and proportions
Has there been any updates on Liokaiser as of late?
>>11577126No and we still don't have final update on Omega Prime with all-in combination>>11577102Few other decos and variants of him.
>>11577130No I mean is the AoP tooling suppose to be someone else that they worked into being Alpha Trion. He doesn't look right.
>>11577130And nothing on a proper date for the replacement parts for Omega Prime either I take it?
>>11577132If you're asking why he doesn't have his traditional long beard etc, that's because this figure is based on a G1 episode set in the past, I think when he first rebuilt Orion into Optimus. Alpha Trion had a different design there to make him look younger.
>>11577136*fall* whatever it means, I bet early next year. Also it's not parts but with how fucked they are - core Magnus and core Optimus. >tfw you spent few hours fixing this shit>>11577132No idea, we will see uses of those molds one day. It's hasbro and suits will force them to reuse prime molds.
>>11577192>suits will force them to reuse prime molds.Why haven't they forced them to reuse the Doubledealer and Dragon Megatron molds?
>>11577240They are retarded
>>11577132It's totally made to be Alpha Trion first and foremost. Even the alt mode is based on a concept art for him that was never used. Some of you guys really see pretools everywhere.
>>11577248Prime Wars trillogy buck broke many, still it sucks how we don't have fun repaints anymore. TFO Megatronus in the good old days would get Fallen repaint with batshit insane bio on the box.
>>11577056Damn I want him
Pretty happy with SS86 Galvatron's look after combining the DNA Design upgrade kit and ABS Casting head. Always loved his design, too bad he ends up being a downgrade from Megatron in every conceivable way after his first appearance.
>>11577296I'm tempted to get Achai head and fin + feet but how is head quality?And yes it's such a shame that threat that he was in the 86 movie went away with S3. I wish we could get more of him as that proper upgrade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIV2pqySpBI
>>11577296That metallic purple is gorgeous but I wish his cannon was still clear orange. The opaque isn't bad, I just prefer the more toyetic "lava lamp" style.I'm pretty satisfied with the Legacy release, but I won't lie if I didn't have him it'd be a tough choice between him and the SS86 deco.Also man, Galvatron is such a good figure. Probably one of the better Voyager-sized Leaders IMO. I might even rank him ahead of Shockwave, and I LOVE Shockwave- Galvatron's base figure engineering justifies the price tag more, whilst Shockwave definitely feels more like a Voyager packed with extra goodies. Though to be fair on Greenpeace's Worst Nightmare the extra stuff is pretty cool, especially for the Neue Ziel/Mecha-Shiva mode. Much better than Blitzwing's fumbled power fists or the gimped minifigs that came with the Dinobots, or whatever they hell they put with Springer. I do think Astrotrain's tender was kinda cool though, still sorta want that guy. If the SS86 one sucks I might track him down.
>>11576987How the hell are they still fucking up the cassettes so badly? All they have to do is transform into plastic slabs. Laserbeak/Buzzsaw looks like he had his head squashed with an anvil and I don't think it has any downward neck articulation. The siege and earthrise figure didn't have these problems so what gives? How are figures half the size of chug cassettes ending up with better bot modes with no partsforming as well?
>>11577325They just don't give a fuck anymore.
>>11577325I was going to say tooners demanding impossible standards of cartoon accuracy at the expense of actually good design but that MS Cassette looks so much better than the SS86 one it's not funny, and that design at CHUG scale would be eminently doable at retail budget. Only thing Hasbro has over those is the vent slats and guns on the backpack. There's actually no excuse for that condor mold- like, he looks fine, but given the Siege one doesn't partsform, has a better head and costs less, even if it is based on the toy, and the MS one doesn't partsform and is HALF THE SIZE? Yeah that's crap.Hell, the now very old MP condor mold still holds up pretty nicely, and the sole current CHUG tape I have (Eject) is pretty aight for what he is. When did HasTak forget how to make cassettes?
>>11577325worst part of this is the 86 one is on a leader budget yet still looks objectively worse than the siege mold. Even with the partsforming intakes/guns it somehow ends up with a completely worse bird mode. Im also baffled how badly they screwed up the head.
>>11577296>>11577306Are you kidding me? He's way more interesting as a raving lunatic that the Decepticons only follow because they fear him (and no one else will lead them). He's the logical conclusion for S1/S2 Megatron. Plus having his telepathic connection to a vile god severed and subsequently tossed into a "plasma bath" by the Autobot twink. Wouldn't you go crazy?
Selling volcanicus and Black zarak with black roritchi combo!
>>11577338NTA but I think S3 Galvatron would be more fondly remembered if he wasn't stuck in S3 (with its shoddy animation even by G1 standards and bungled execution of interesting concepts, like the Quintesson origin story). Galvatron as an unhinged tyrant who leads by terror rather than example? Great idea. What we actually got was an incompetent moron who only earned the respect of his troops because his troops were bumbling cowards. Not helped by his voice either; Frank Welker is an amazing actor and a swell guy, but his Galvatron voice was a massive downgrade, not just from Leonard Nimoy but from Megatron. Sounded like Skeletor with Downs. Ironically, say what you will about the Bayverse but I thought the voice he got to do for AOE Galvatron and TLK Megatron was pretty ace, and that voice but with a tiny bit of vocoder processing would have not only been perfect for Galvatron but would have been closer to Leonard Nimoy's performance.To be honest though, the biggest problem is that for the most part, G1 peaked at S1 and the movie. S2 was fun but in a so-bad-it's-good way outside of a select few episodes and S3 is wasted potential: the series. And The Rebirth is unwatchable dross.
>>11577344>To be honest though, the biggest problem is that for the most part, G1 peaked at S1 and the movie. S2 was fun but in a so-bad-it's-good way outside of a select few episodes and S3 is wasted potential: the series. And The Rebirth is unwatchable dross.I agree with this. I still think Galvatron as Skeletor's retarded brother works, but as you said, it only works because everyone else is somehow dumber than he is. The S3 voice is excellent for laughs, not so much for terror.
>>11577338Not really a fan, Superlink did that much better where Galvatron went insane with power and Unicron living rent free inside his head. Reforming his soldiers and making them unhinged was fun. S3 Galvy felt like old man that forgot his meds (I had displeasure of knowing one like that). >>11577344True, Welker did a poor job in S3. Funny enough I think Bay quote about him sounding silly made him change his voice for TFP and AoE/TLK. Still I like Burton and Weaving voices a lot more. Kaye also could work with proper script (UT had such a shitty dub except Megs and Prime)
>>11577365>Still I like Burton and Weaving voices a lot more. Kaye also could work with proper script (UT had such a shitty dub except Megs and Prime)Burton is up there as my all time favourite Megatron- though I'm NGL Fred Tatascoire is neck and neck with him. The guy sounded genuinely terrifying in the High Moon games. Weaving did a great voice, a shame he didn't care about the role and was apparently a bit of a cock to work with.Kaye is a superb Megatron but I don't entirely count him because his best Megatron is technically not a "real" Megatron- he's a particularly charismatic guy from the same timeline who named himself after G1 Megatron because it commanded fear and respect (IIRC he isn't even a particular worshipper of the original, so much as he respects him as a symbol more than an individual). I will say that for all the dreadful voice direction, his Armada Megatron was very entertaining- had a slightly more smug/jovial quality than BW despite being basically the same voice.Daniel Riordan is also disqualified as Megatron is just the dub name for Gigatron (not even weebing, ACKCHUALLYing or continuity nerding there, I just think Gigatron is a great name for that design and I view him as a separate guy), though his performance was just "OK". Certainly not his best evil dragon voice (though now I want a SG Gigatron voiced by Charles Martinet).If I could get anyone who hasn't voiced him before to, well, voice him, I'd pick John Avner. He was Void in Berserk and Pasdar in the tragically short-lived GaoGaiGar dub (which, whilst not as good as the Japanese, was shockingly competent). Guy knows how to voice villains. I would say Tony Jay (AKA Megabyte, Frollo and the outer horror thing from that Legacy of Kain series I haven't played) but sadly he's no longer with us.
>>11577370>Kaye is a superb Megatron but I don't entirely count him because his best Megatron is technically not a "real" Megatron- he's a particularly charismatic guy from the same timeline who named himself after G1 Megatron because it commanded fear and respect (IIRC he isn't even a particular worshipper of the original, so much as he respects him as a symbol more than an individual).BW Megatron is basically a dude who decided to start calling himself Hitler 2 after reading Mein Kampf.>I will say that for all the dreadful voice direction, his Armada Megatron was very entertaining- had a slightly more smug/jovial quality than BW despite being basically the same voice.Big agree with this though, brigadier general Megatron and Starscream are the only.good parts of Armada.
>>11577375Armada Starscream is peak "2000s edgy emo kid", and I love him for it.
>>11577370>TatascioreAbsolutely based opinion, I loved him in games.>>11577375>>11577377And I feel that Micron Legend managed to capture him and his voice a bit better. Armada Starscream tried too much to copy g1 screetch.
>>11577377For real. Helps his VA was pretty good. I preferred Cybertron Starscream though; same voice actor but far better direction (Cybertron's dub in general was pretty aight) and as much as I like Armada Starscream, I think the concept worked much better in the original Japanese, whereas Cybertron Starscream worked great in both languages. But I honestly love that Starscream in general; G1's "I'm the leader! Megatron has fallen! He has a slight cough!" is hilarious but Cybertron's "I'm in charge now, Megatron has fallen because I kicked his arse!" was peak. But then I loved how Cybertron went full super robot nonsense, and Starscream only failing to overthrow Megatron because Megatron was just that fucking powerful was really cool.I dunno, I have a lot of nostalgia for Cybertron. It managed to have the goofiness and fun I like in Transformers whilst still having actual stakes and being goddamn raw at times.I think my ideal take on Starscream (as in, doing something new with him) would be having his betrayal come as a bit of a surprise; he starts out as a standard "dragon" but you slowly see hints he's not satisfied with how Megatron is running things, until eventually we get the climax where he suddenly and violently betrays Megatron (think a more villainous version of Satsuki and Ragyo but with less molestation). Whether he succeeds in deposing Megatron or if he gets his arse kicked and has to run off to lick his wounds, I think it'd be pretty cool.
>>11577344I get why Season 3 is hated, but it's the only G1 season I can stand to really watch because it at least feels like it's trying to do something instead of running through disconnected plots. It's the only one that feels close to a post BTAS animated show.
>>11577415That's fair, I suppose I prefer S1 because it feels like a well-executed goofy 80s cartoon rather than a poorly-executed 90s one. I enjoy silly episodic series when they're done well; I admire S3 for trying to shift to something more narrative-driven, I just don't think it succeeded particularly well.That said, the AKOM animation did not help one bit. I think if it had been as well-drawn as the better bits of S1 (which whilst hardly gorgeous, did look nice at times) it'd be much better remembered.
I’ve always been there outlier that like the third season the most of G1. I know it has its hilariously badly animated episodes, but the ones that were done well made up for that and also I think for an 80s cartoon it stood out more. The first season is the most consistent given that. Toei started with a smaller season. The second season is what I like to call the standard 80s cartoon plot episodes and even then there’s ones in the second that I still love like “Key to vector sigma” and “Cosmic Rust”.
>>11577481Also, I just realized something. The backlash toward the 1986 movie must’ve been really fast because look at the turnaround from August 1986 to when Optimus Prime returned in February in 1987.
>>11577344>>11577415One thing I really loved about post movie Galvatron is how fast he 180'd when Optimus came back. All the craziness and insanity gone instantly.
>>11577551Megatron crawled his way back into Galvatron's brain circuit from pure unadulterated hatred of Optimusliterally turned Galvatron sane just for the love of being a hater.>>11577476something about this Megatron looks naked. I think it's the white thighs.Also, is this the first core class release post legacy? Not counting micromaster hot rod who was basically just an upscaled micromaster instead of the core class he shared a size with.
>>11577556>something about this Megatron looks naked.It's the lack of side-skirts and his black robo-underwear being too thin
>>11577556More along the lines of Megatrons respect for Optimus returned his sanity. They were allies during the hate plague, Galvatron instantly sided with Optimus the second he saw him.
>>11577561Both unavoidable, though - that's a repaint of the Kingdom Core Megatron mold.
>>11577398Cybertron was also peak. Energon is really the only weak link in the UT, and that solely lies at the feet off the dogshit cartoon. The toys are actually pretty cool, probably better than half of the Armada stuff.I would agree with that ideal Starscream. It would also explain why Megatron cuts him so much slack and doesn't just fucking kill him the first time he attempts to usurp Megatron (like Animated Megatron did). His most powerful and (initially) loyal lackey becomes his greatest foe, but Starscream is too much of a kingmaker to outright destroy. He must be returned to the fold.I think Skybound sort of attempted to do something like this but honestly it's one of the weaker parts of DWJ's run. Nothing seems particularly special about Starscream that he couldn't just do with Soundwave.
This two-pack is ten times better if you consider them G2 Blackout and Nightracer.
>>11577642The back of the Ground Soldier is mistransformed in these stock photos, right? He's supposed to have a hood like the Battlecharger twins
>>11577642How exactly do I pretend they're supposed to be characters they look nothing like? How's that supposed to fix the er seeker mold sucking shit?
>>11577658>How exactly do I pretend they're supposed to be characters they look nothing like?How does a black conehead look nothing like a black conehead?
>>11577677goes hard
>>11577370>Tony Jay as Megatronboy that would have been something, especially if he was Galvatron in G1.. that's a decent followup to Nimoy. They both have a decent amount of, like, nose in their voices.
>>11577296Maybe it's just me but I've never seen a height upgrade kit that looked convincing. They always just make whatever part you add them onto look too long.
>>11577628Super Link was great, it's really only the fault of one of the worst dubs I've ever seen, +leaving off a few plotthreads likely to be continued in Galaxy Force, not knowing that GF was going to be a reboot thanks to being by another studio. The rest honestly just falls to TF fans lacking the ability for media analysis beyond a 5-y/o's comprehension.I think there's plenty to love about SL, it goes in interesting places and has very good character work. Sure it had a lotta filler, but no more than Micron Legend did, and certainly less than Galaxy Force's stock footage abuse lawl.
>>11577727>sand toy photographyAlways irks me
Oh Jesus Christ he's big.
>>11577647yes, he has a hood
>>11577727chilling with the boys
>>11577647>He's supposed to have a hood like the Battlecharger twinsRelated to this, got reissue Runamuck recently and that part barely stays in place. It's supposed to connect to the clear plastic pylons on the sides of his head but there's no friction whatsoever. Was it like that originally or the mold is just busted?Still wish they rereleased Runabout though.
>>11577375indeed. and the rest of "Germany" is like "you lunkhead, we have not been lying low long enough. it's all we can do to keep denying most of it happened, stop jumping the gun you impatient child"
>>11577733>Always irks meUnderstandable. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
>>11577738"Metroplex needs the call of the Last Prime!"
>>11577763>"Metroplex needs the call of the Last Prime!">needsIs Prime refusing to call him? What a dick.
>>11577763You forgot to deploy the white panel on the middle of his chest.Also do the shoulder fix before moving them anymore or you're going to bust the ratchets.
>>11577768BLAM! TOO LATE!!!
>>11577768Got it thank you!>>11577766Look, Prime just kinda pointed and assumed Metroplex knew what to do.
>>11577768Shoulder Fix?
>>11577738>he got one of the $99 Metroplex Jelly
>>11577774The crotch plate also moves, you need to click it into place by sliding it down.
>>11577781Yes. The rachet teeth grind against one of the inner walls inside the shoulderpads, you need to remove the screws on the back of the shoulderpads to separate both halves, check wich wall is the one that causes the problem and cut enough plastic so the ratchets don't rub against it. I know about this because some anon here explained it, and immediately did the fix on my copy when I got it a year ago. There's no info anywhere else because people barely play with their titans and this one is also the worst selling one.
Pop trivia time: What similarity do Collaborative Agent knight and AOTP vortex share?
>>11577795Both wear jeans, obviously!
>>11577796ding ding dingthat was fast!
>>11577792Oh fuck. Mine is in transit, is there a guide?
>>11577799I have some pics that other anon who found the problem posted here and one of my own fix, but I'm not in my computer right now. Nonetheless it's pretty easy to disassemble and find the problem, it's just removing three or four screws and checking each half of the shoulderpad by placing it against the shoulder ratchets on the body and moving them to see if the ratchet teeth are bumping against one of the inner structural walls. Just cut enough plastic there so the shoulder can spin freely and that's it.
I'm lucky they don't have photographers like this at Takara. I'd have probably folded and bought a rather expensive Arcee.
>>11577825They decided to test having good photography with the Amazon 86 Blaster reissue and then decided to not ever do it since
>>11577745I've only got the Devastation two-pack version of the mold, but yeah, the tabs on top of the pylons are supposed to clip into the hood, but the tabs are just barely too short by about a millimeter or two, so it's really hard to get them to stay snapped into place. Then once they're finally tabbed in, it feels like if you breathe on it wrong, it'll pop right back out. It seems like I'm constantly finding new TF figures where tabs are too small to stay secured in place, leaving either the robot or vehicle mode unable to stay properly snapped together. Personally, I blame Hasbro becoming too reliant on using CADs to design their toys. A computer might think that a tab entering a half an atom's width deep into a slot will be enough to stay in place, but in the real world with physical objects, that just doesn't work.
>>11577825These things happen.
>>11577879She's being harassed by a pervert!
Do you guys think hasbro will ever stop using the titan master 'mold' for headmasters? On the one hand, I think that up sizing the headmasters just a little bit to add ball jointed separate legs would be a good idea, but on the other hand, I think that killing backwards compatibility with the titan master ecosystem would be kinda shitty.
>>11577896Sideways might be incompatible depending on how he is done.
>>11577899Sideways is kind of an exception, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do some weird siege apeface stuff with the heads and make them nonstandard
>>11577917and how much does this cost?
>>11577919I guess we'll find out on the 8th when preorders go upFair to say it'll be a bit more than MP-13 was back in the day
>>11577891Which one?!
>>11577924Ok, we'll settle this with a race.
>>11569809Kinda like how Fleetway Sonic in the UK gave Amy a mohawk looking hairdo, because one of her only Japanese art had her quills upStuff when artists had very little official stuff to work with, little oversight, and were separated my several oceans, so interpretations varied
>>11569809I know it was a mistake but I always thought gold chest Megatron was cool as fuck. I like the idea of it as a "victory regalia" look.
>>11577935i mean tons of sonic artists went with the mohawk on the assumption that Sonic's mickey-mouse-like silhouette represented one. and because he curls up into a buzzsaw. I remember thinking it was so weird in the rare cases you saw his spines from the back.>>11577938it's hella cool. I did all my guns in red dead in gold.
I haven't bought a transformer since early Spring but I saw Megatron at the store today and caved.He looks amazing, I love this cartoony dictator.
>>11577968'86 megatron is quite possibly the best Megatron released in generations. Definitely an all timer and well worth leader price. Gun mode enjoyers might say otherwise, but the Transformation on 86 Megs is so damn impressive and clever it made me into a tank appreciator.
>>11577934>we'll settle this with a race.>"These dumb hoes know they can't beat me in an honest race so they will try to pull a bunch of bullshit..."
>>11577974>that torsoi don't think that's what 'gap moe' means
>>11577102They didn't make him look like G1 Alpha Trion, he's pre-everything in G1.>>11577306The head is great, it's well beyond any 3d printed add on stuff. I didn't give him the hands or stupid height boosters but I replaced his feet with some 3D prints since all the other ones look fucking terrible.
>>11577973I don't even mind that he's not a gun, the robot mode looks pretty much perfect and the tank mode is completely hidden away inside it, it IS damned impressive imo. Coming off of the Siege one (and CW before him) I'm definitely loving this new one.
>>11577642Nightracer is mostly black, not blue so it wouldn't work. I made my own Nightracer.
>>11577994That looks damn good. What paints did you use?
>>11577974>"These hoebags are probably plotting against me. Stay cool, stay in the pocket, drive to win."
>>11577977Some man-bots find those gaps highly erotic
>>11577990It blows siege so far out of the water it's honestly crazy how people were saying siege was the best Megatron we'd ever get in generations. The question is.... what now? I highly, HIGHLY doubt 86 Megatron will ever be topped in generations. Like, ever. I think 86 Optimus has some room for improvement, but Megatron is.. just.. perfect. I honestly don't know where Hasbro will go from here. I mean, they'll probably reissue 86 Optimus and Megatron twenty more times as they finish the G1 cartoon cast again.. and.. then what? Most of the modern generations versions of characters are about the perfect representation of that character in generations scale. AOTP is doing the primes, the next line is probably combiner wars 3 (AOTP is basically CW 2) with probably a new defensor and maybe the technobots or abominus.. where does Hasbro go from here?
>>11578002>Rattletrap, stop looking at my sternal cavity! I'm your AUNT you sick little...
>>11577997I typically use Krylon Fusion paints and sub in whatever else I can find for colors they don't cover. Been using Tamiya sprays lately which are pretty nice too. I bought SG Bumblebee just to give his fists to regular Goldbug and a stroke of genius gave me the idea to make the leftover into Nightracer. Kind of matches the last club version of her. I chose to ignore the original version because it only had yellow on it because it was a literal Bumblebee repaint without the gold paint and not because they wanted it as part of her colors so I matched the newer version.
>>11578008>where does Hasbro go from here?Do it all again but Core Class scale. You'd fuckin' buy 'em, you know you would. I would too, and they'd love to sell us every G1 guy again at premium price but less plastic.
>>11578019Only autists buy Core class. I NEED MUH POCKET TOYS TO TAKE INTO PUBLIC REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>11578025Aren't Micromasters better suited for that?
>>11567245Invincible was pretty successful. Enough that I saw several kids get giddy when the found the trades and omnibus at a bookstore recently. You can always aim stuff at teenagers, and younger kids will think it's cool.Just make a cartoon that takes itself slightly above semi-serious, you can even get away with shitty animation as long as it kicks in when the fight scene starts, and give the kids the violence they want, maybe you can even get away with it since they're all robots. But with less female on male rape.Or just let Takara fund another anime
>>11578017Left pic is Animated Arcee (with a different head). I'd bet they were planning to use that mode at one time
>>11577476Open the mook
>>11567245children don't care about toys either
>>11578029Autists can't have big name characters with Micromasters
>>11578019I fucking would. BUT ONLY IF.. there's playsets. I mean, come on. It would be awesome. Hasbro brings back cyberverse 2010 as a cross-factional singularity or something... wait, I've got a plot in mind.Unicron corrupts micronus prime in one universe and forces him to downscale all the residents of the universe to micro sizes in order to partake in galactic championships for his entertainment, eventually using his powers to bring in other universe characters.. 14 dollar two packs of characters with accessories, larger characters with spring loaded gimmicks, and all of these would have scannable emblems like rid2015 (contained in the packaging and not stickered on the figure) to unlock stuff in a mobile/console/PC cross platform multiplayer generic fps game or whatever. Boom, next 8 years of the franchise right there if hasbro doesn't fuck it up. Also spring loaded playsets.
>>11578037Why would you want big-name characters? They make too many Optimus/Bumblebee/Megatron/Starscream already.
>>11577998>"I planted explosives under turn 3."
>>11578025core class are awesome because they look good next to combiners also cheap remakes of characters we wouldn't have seen for another 6 years otherwise. Like Iguanus, bomb burst, and Energon Me/galvatron.
>>11578025/tfg/ used to love Legends class in the days before Core>>11578037Turn the whole G1 cast into Micromasters, fuck it why not? Jazz Grimlock and Bumblebee got to be Pretenders, let 'em be Micromasters for a change. >>11578039>playsetsFuck yeah, gimme pic related already.
>>11578053If siege and earthrise had micromaster playsets the micromasters probably wouldn't have failed so hard. The baseformers were cool, but there needed to be some actual gimmicks other than 5mm portfest Portland 2020.
>>11578008They need to redo the Headmasters. All of the original Headmasters need to be Voyagers at least. Powermasters need a proper redo too because fuxk that half ass Combiners Wars remolds they used for Dreadwind and Darkwing.Also we need modern versions of G2. Not talking about original G1 guys in their G2 colors, I mean modern versions of the Cyberjets, Laser Rods, Rotor Force, G2 tank Megatron and a Commander class Dreadwing.
>>11578059Cyberjets would have been PERFECT for core class. Leader g2 tank megs can't come soon enough. And I'm real excited for powermaster remakes.
>>11577768>>11577792I got mine a year ago off Amazon and when I opened him up he actually already had the fix applied. I assume they knew and it was a running change for future batches
>>11578061My dream is Voyager or at least Deluxe Cyberjets. Maverick's engineering would have been perfect for doing modern Cyberjets.
>>11578053>/tfg/ used to love Legends class in the days before CoreEverything changed when the Third Party attacked
>>11578039iunno man, the only 'play feature' i want scaled for core class guys would be a redesigned Tako Tank
>>11578061Fuck that. Deluxe size Cyberjets. Nothing should be Core class unless they're supposed to be TINY characters like Rumble, Daniel in exosuit or Wheelie. We need to stop using Core Class for previously small toys just because they were previously small back then, despite the fact that the characters weren't tiny.>>11578040Seems to me like the autists who want pocket tardos on the go want the big name dudes for their pocket adventures, whatever the mainline offers would be irrelevant to these people but I'm not a pocket tardo so maybe I'm wrong on that part. But pocket tardos are 'tarded.
>>11578140I'm an autist and I like the ones that are unique small guys more.
Why is it so hard to do a proper Bumblebee head? I had to get a 3D printed one just to get the right look, even Achai who has a nearly flawless record of heads (aside from Rodimus) fucked up Bumblebee's head.
>>11578144Different interpretation of what he is "supposed" to look like.
>>11578142Well there you go. I wouldn't mind a Core line just for making small guys, as long as it didn't (mostly) cross over with Generations. We're stuck with a tiny Rattrap, Tasmania Kid and Dinoking because of this retardation.
>>11578146Only the third one really looks like what he's supposed to look like. The Hasbro ones are too serious a dry for a kid friendly character and Achai's mouth is way off. People kept suggesting he bring the mouth down but didn't listen to him, and he has this weird obsession with making lips that are a bit too fuller than they need to be on some of his heads.
>>11578149Rattrap is supposed to be small.
>>11577982I'm normally with you on height extenders, but these work for me. The proportions of this mold's robot mode always looked off to me. The arms are just a little too long for the rest of the body. The height extenders on the DNA kit can look a little goofy at certain angles, but I think they result in an overall visual improvement. The head is great though, highly recommended for anyone that wants a more screen accurate look for him.
>>11578144Ambition looks pretty perfect to me, I'd go with that one.
>>11578140I don't mind core class of regualr guys when there're other to build from itLike putting core class Optimus with whichever titan is fineAnd you better believe I had deluxe T30 Tankor on the legends or legion or whatever they were at the time's shelf
>>11578151This is a bullshit excuse.Yes, he is. But not he's not THAT small. He's only a head shorter than Cheetor. The MP does this right., The Kingdom toy does not. Kingdom Rattrap fans are copers.>>11578153I did. I like Achai's work but he fell short on this one, which is why I waited.
>>11578157so does that mean his beast form in MP will be a little too big?I know T30 rattrap fits nicely on Primal's back, so maybe he'll remain his buddy for those shots.
>>11578157>the fans are copers.. you mean they're coping with it? that's not the same as liking something. If you mean stockholm syndrome, say it.
>>11578151So do you feel Core Class accurately reflects this?
>>11578159Why would his beast form be too big?>>11578160They like it because it's the only thing we got and to defend this, they cope with him being too small by saying "HE"S SUPPOSED TO BE SMALL REEEEEEEEEEE" because they imagine what he actually is in their heads.A select few may like him being smaller because he's a rat, aside from the fiction but that's a small percentage of people. In reference to your question.
>>11578168because they cheated his size on the show a bit.Yeah, he looks to be about 15% bigger here, which honestly is not nearly as bad as I worried it'd be (though the angle cheats a bit) Rhinox actually looks too small, which is interesting. This is absolutely 'close enough' with the asterisk that they obviously matched robot modes first. I really wish they'd made MP Primal's legs less complicated and his elbows more complicated though. bleh.
>>11578169He is consistently that size. I recently rewatched the show. He is absolutely not a Core class size.
>>11578169
>>11578171anon I never said he was, I'm saying I think the show cheated his beast mode a little smaller than it should have been. a bigger robot steps out of it, and then the rat parts shrink.
>>11578169v2
>>11578175I'm not terribly concerned with mass shifting affecting robot modes. It shouldn't be a thing.
>>11578169This was probably the only episode I saw that leaned more towards the Kingdom representation, but it's just one scene. I hate to give that side any ammo but I'm honest about my arguments.
>>11578169Consistently, he's portrayed larger than Core, which is what matters. He's an oversized rat no matter what the argument. If it means anything, Dinobot is significantly shorter than he should be and despite Rhinox being fucking terrible he's also too small as well. lmao
>>11578157So you wanted him to be like Cliffjumper?
>>11578144Stages of grief
What is the point of size classes when everyone is between deluxe and voyager in the cartoon anyway?
>>11578186That would have been preferable. A small Deluxe, with a bunch of gadgets and bombs. The character is supposed to be very improvisational with gear. He's small, but not so much so that he's useless and he has skills to make up for any shortcomings as a result of being slightly smaller. That's his character.
>>11578164Just use the old Rattrap
>>11578171>>11578173>>11578176>>11578180>>11578181>>11578182That guy you're quoting isn't even arguing about the core size dude.
Kingdom Cheetor, Blackarachnia and Airazor are oversized.
>>11578192Allows their personal gimmicks to be built in to the budget>>11578194Same height as Kingdom Cheetor. Decent placeholder but too tall. We need something in between.>>11578198The the only reason to defend the Core figure being too small is to claim the MP beast mode is too big. "wE aLrEaDy HaVe A rAtTrAp At (insert both scales)"
>>11578202>>11578202They are never going to develop a Beast Wars cast scale accurate to the Generations G1 guys in the same line that we have. Maybe the larger guys starting in S2 and going into S3 they could do but they would not be cool toys and nobody wants a Beast Machines Tankor the size of Voyager/Leader or whatever he would be according to the scale charts.
>>11578208Like how Cheetor has a squirt gun made of his guts?
>>11578181wow that is also dinobot looking as beefy as the MP. usually I feel like he's.. the right height but too thick. Interesting.>>11578208dude. NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CORE THINGi agreed with you on that. the core one was too fuckin smallwe have MOVED ON to talking about the MP, and my concerns over how it'll handle his scale since I think he cheated in the show. your screencaps help a lot, more beast mode ones would help more, though.
>>11578208really wish I could fuse these two figurescmon china>>11578192anon you've hit on a real obvious truth about how retarded size classes are.
>>11578217The MP is no good. Don't talk about it anymore.
>>11578220aw man, I am hoping it turns out great when it finally releases.not that I can afford MPs. I mean I guess I could. Basically they came out when I couldn't, and my income came to me too late to get my faves, and now it has left me again. plus I have little faith they'll actually finish, though 3P has me KIND OF covered.
>>11578061Core class Cyberjets would be pointless. The same size as the originals, with the same articulation but no light-piping or missile. Better to be deluxes so they could at least get an improvement in articulation.
>>11577917>buying the same toy from 10 years ago but with less painti dont like it
>>11577982I have the same feet, and the back spire from the same creator too, but I need to get a new print with better quality. I was the guy on TFW who initially requested Achai make new feet but he ignored my suggestion for replacement feet like that print and went with those terrible slippers because he has this idea that removing a few screws is too complicated for most people.
>>11577102It's the lack of wing cape, and how his shoulder pauldrons attach to his arm not his chest.Odds are, the sentinel we get in the accessories pack will just be a head swap repaint of someone else, and alpha trion could be meant for that. It is a rather late edition so they might've just tweaked his design a but so they could swap different wings in and call it a day.
>>11578238Was the original MP-13's blue fully painted?
After taking time to really sit down and mess with the AotP Superion and getting him into some really fun poses and all that I've come to accept you guys were right and he really is just completely a total turdActual and genuine turdThere's so much wrong it's wild
>>11578244would permanently attached feet change the altmode negatively?
>>11578249left is old right is "new"
>>11578255Okay but is the original MP-13's blue entirely painted? That's what I'm asking.
>>11578258I dont think so? Seems like its blue molded plastic
>>11578260I think the new Takara reissue will be entirely painted this time.I would say it lacks all the paint applications one would expect with a toy that has toy detailing sculpted in, but by quantity alone the paint on the reissue will outmatch the original.
>>11578250Anybody else just really feel underwhelmed?
>>11578268not my kinda guy, but as someone with no G1 nostalgia, most of what I don't like is below the waist.
>>11578255I never noticed the cassettes looked like skulls
>>11578277looks like Leland from Dr. Tran
There is nothing wrong with the old MP SoundwaveEven by the current day standard it is still a Masterpiece Now should I get the cartoon accurate version?
>>11578255>shoulder paint apps got moved to gun >blues aren't randomly mismatched in tape recorder modeI'd love to upgrade from my shitty Hasbro version but feels like they're waiting to make a version 2 sooner than later.
>>11578157I don't like Kingdom Rattrap as Rattrap but as a toy "in a vaccuum" he's actually pretty fun. Beast mode looked more like a mouse though; made mine into a custom OC called Mousehole. Need to make a new head though, current one looks a bit...derpy.>>11578255Cripes, the OG deco looks so much nicer. Interested to see the toy deco though.>>11578277Oh shit, they kinda do!>>11578335The hips look a bit weird but yeah, I still want one. Also>KMBSoundwave's taste in anime superior.
Looking forward to receiving proto Arcee next wee
>>11578394she looks so uncanny but also so perfectI hope they do a missing link hot rod sooner rather than later.
>tfw you realize the 75 dollars armada nemesis prime was sold for was actually the discounted future price of a voyager (nemesis himself) and a deluxe (star saber mini-cons)
>>1157842242 + 27 = 69, + 6 dollar 'exclusive tax'..
>>11578250what's wrong with him?
>>11578394I can't decide which ML Arcee to get. I like the white verion better, but the orange version would be what the original toy would've been which is arguably the whole point.
>>11578455I think that’s kind of irrelevantBecause it’s just a concept
>>11578181>>11578180>>11578176>>11578173>>11578171Bothers me to no end that the masterpiece has innacurate upper arms. How did they mess up the position of the details when every single other season 1 Rattrap toy gets it right? On the most show accurate transformers line no less. I guess takara looked at a 3D model with rotated upper arms or some animation error as reference
>>11578515yeah but the whole point is it's supposed to be "the original toy". Obviously, I could just stay with the more modern versions if I wanted something that looked better.
That shitty Siege megs retool ruined SG Megatron forever.
>>11578250It’s probably your terrible poses holding back your enjoyment
>>11578455In Takara's mind, the white one is like what we would have got and based her on a transitional (but not fully finalized) Arcee look. So the releases are Arcee (Protoype) and Arcee.
>>11578547You can't ruin Shattered Glass, it's garbage by default.
>>11578592More like shattered ass, kek
>>11578210Where the fuck did they get this Scale from? The animation error in beast wars were Optimus was gigantic?
>>11578609Um sweaty Beast Wars was perfect and never had any animation errors only G1 had animation errors.
>>11578590so dainty
>>11578609>The animation error in beast wars were Optimus was gigantic?There was no error, Beast Wars bots are human sized.
>>11578620How come the protohumans were like the same size as modern ones to Bumblebee then at best?
>>11578622They were Homo Naledi, who were shorter and had less cranial capacity than modern Homo Sapiens, yet still buried their dead in a ritual fashion and almost certainly had rudimentary language.
>>11578610>>11578620Beast wars is FULL of animation goofs. That aside Rattrap is officially 5 ft tall. G1 Optimus Prime is officially about 20. Bw Megatron being 10 ft sounds fine when looking at when he shot Optimus Prime in the face.Optimal Optimus needs to be large enough for his cockpit to hold the matrix/spark housing, and is significantly bigger than the entire cast. He is shown at one point with rattrap being the size of his head.Majin Zarak turns into a fucking aircraft carrier.
>>11578620Yes, the size of ten foot tall humans.
>>11578639Optimal Optimus is 39ft 4. He's twice Prime's size.
why hasn't anyone mixed generations beasts with masterpiece G1s for true scale?
>>11578667That still isn't true scale.
>>11578144The Origins one was tweaked to better accomodate the (quite ugly) Ken Christiansen WFC Netflix art>>11578210Dogshit scale, Optimus Prime isn't that gigantic, >>11578422Not even a deluxe for the mini-cons, Evan said that they don't fit either Deluxe or core class braskets & I did my own comparisons, 2/3 of them got reused pats out of Siege Visper & Storm Could>>11578547It was bound to happen, ppl take SG for only using their color schemes in G1 bodies, the capsule using their Siege/ER toys masn"t the first time it happened, FunPub did it too towards their last years of relevance
>>11578677Beast Wars Optimus Prime was a lot bigger than G1 cartoon Optimus Prime. It isn't wrong since they are different stories.
>>11578680There's bigger & there's as big as an Evangelion lolFunny that there's the BWNeo cast here, since these guys we got their heights in meters & in no way it works, it makes OP what, about 20 meters for no reason, what about how Transmetal Optimus took in his hands the matrix or spark of OP, with this scale, I'll be a miracle if he could hold both handles
>>11578620>Beast Wars bots are human sized.not optimal optimus though.He was fuckhuge.Hell, transmetal Primal was nearly knee high to g1 prime.Rattrap is 5' and G1 Optimus is usually around 20 ft. In Beast Wars they DO make him bigger for effect in a couple scenes.But that means this ENTIRE chart is off, and sure enough the guy who made it got raked over the coals.First, because Optimus Primal showed up in the anime beast wars once, he's basing all the scale on that, scaling the entire cast DOWN to Primal size, instead of thinking "maybe they scaled this one guy up for this"the guy also STARTED his scale by using cheetor's alt mode and basing everything off that.So Cheetor is 5 ft tall in his world, rattrap under 4. The entire beast wars lineup is micro.and he used a TERRIBLE frame with optimus' hand closer to the camera to decide beast wars Optimus Prime was actually 100 ft tall.It's a TERRIBLE scale
Seaspray is all grown up
>>11578687>big as an EvangelionSoon.
>>11578777>evangeon mode Optimus prime
>>11578763Are they selling this guy with his other head?
>>11578786Its the one everyone wants so probably in 3 or 4 years
Finally got my Missing Link Sunstreaker.
>>11578807was he themissing link in your collection?
If they're making Alpha Bravo out of Vortex they should make a Blast Off out of Slingshot for the shits and giggles.
>>11578813HAH!
>>11578795HASSSSSSBRRROOOOOO
>>11578795I still have my g1 seaspray, so this is the one I wanted.titans return does a good enough job for chubberspray
>>11577628Tbh I didn’t like cybertron and loved Energon, like really got into it and who doesn’t like kicker <3 he was kinda the best but in the worst way
>>11578270Having the Vehicles make up the Limb itself is better>>11578335He could have used some touches but he honestly is great and aged fine>>11578452Skeleton Frame is literally %80 of him nearlyYou can make his combined form with only 2 limb bots and still have it visually %90+ SuperionClunky feelingHonestly hard to get good poses with him because range just feels bad At least you can disconnect the waist and use the back hinge connector to hold it for ab crunch posesCombiner arms just don't feel goodI genuinely hate the "Break a guy in half and just kinda slap him on the limb"It doesn't really change anything at all if you have one on there or notQuite honestly if you buy the main Commander then hey there you go. You have the Combiner basicallyHe pops off at the waist a lotThe Antenna parts on the Superion Head also pop off constantly if you look at them funnyHis weapon is laughableGenuinelyThe "Base Mode" is a complete cope of "We gotta make the Frame not look like a Frame. Turn it into SOMETHING"At least Motormaster it's clearly a Trailer and can at least do that rightSilverbolts wrists are somehow just as bad if not worse than CW/UW SilverboltsSilverbolt himself feels really underwhelming tooI find minimal desire to really mess with himYet despite also not feeling too good on them individually I find myself messing with the SS86 Constructicons a lot moreFeels like a rant. SorryI'm just very disappointed in him because a laundry list of things>>11578548Feels like you're trolling
>>11578871If you have both teams+Vortex, can you do some goofy mix and match of parts? Maybe even with the frames not being entirely pure?
>>11578837Vortex is already, like, 60% shared engineering with slingshot. The legs transform literally the exact same way, and the arms are similar in how they need to shift upwards on an in-torso shoulder joint. The heads are also both landing gear. Blast off is literally a retool of vortex (its obvious by the backpack and arm kibble)
>>11578908>Blast off is literally a retool of vortex (its obvious by the backpack and arm kibble)Have you even seen a pic of Blast Off? It's not a retool at all.
>>11578915whatever, it's shared engineering the same way that potp hun-gurr is with cw silverbolt. The arms will rotate up over the head and the legs will collapse like vortex and slingshot.
>>11578364yes, he's begging to be a custom OC. that's why it's frustrating that mold didn't get recolored (well it did, twice, but both as Rattrap). i'll probably do the same someday if we ever get a truly perfect Rattrap. but I would already have bought Packrat or whoever if they'd done that.
>>11578620>there was no errorif you truly believe the first episode with him was fine, then you must accept the second episode is in error, because they shrank him down considerably.TM Megatron was hovering before Prime looking like he could headmaster himself into an appropriately-scaled alternate head. Prime was MASSIVE because they weren't really thinking, and wanted to make the G1 guys look huge.
>>11578547>>11578592Worse it ruined that TT deco for Decepticon Jetfire
>>11578708>Optimal was so big, they had maximal headquarters destroyed because he wouldn't physically fit insidegotta love that
>>11578918>The arms will rotate up over the head In a different way as they're mounted on panels in Blast Off's case.>and the legs will collapse like vortex and slingshot.And Knockout, and Dragstrip, and a shitton of combiner wars molds... Shared engineering has been a thing since the very beginning of the line.Some of you see retools and pretools everywhere.
What would you pay for potp abominus?
>>11578933200 dollars, the same price you pay for every combiner and titan nowadays.
>>11578933100, assuming nothing is broken. If it's boxed, 140.
>>11578933I wouldn't
>>11578949That's bc you're low test
>>11578923And then someone realized he was too big, made him shrink through season 3 and made him job to everything.
So do we have any confirmation as to wether or not Devastation Sideswipe has the correct head?
>>11578933I refused to even buy it until I was also able to afford the TDW upgrade kit which I personally consider essential for him to not look like shit
>>11579014>essential for him to not look like shitYou're not wrong, but it also makes him a touch unstable and prone to falling apart.
>>11579009in fairness, one of his toy features is pop-off blast shields
>>11579013Its the Red Alert head >>11579020You are also not wrong. The thigh parts especially love falling off. I used some glue to tighten the connections
>>11578894I like my Combiners how I like my EggsScrambled>>11578933Sub $100 for full teamI've seen $80 range but also like $110-140 for him with PE hands/feet or the other kits
>>11579031I expect to see a defensor leg on that Superion in two years
>>11579024Well shit.Guess my Siege Sideswipe will be without a head soon.
>>11579024How do they keep making this mistake?.
>>11579061arr rook same
>>11579024Can I just swap a Siege head onto it?
>>11579089it's the same goddamn mold what do you think
I just figured out the solution to Megatron having thin legs with a gun alt modeit's simple- give Megatron the extended magazine and have that split into two fold inwards when the handle is separated to thicken up the legs. Makes Megatron more accurate to the U.N.C.L.E. special and makes the robot mode better, win win?
>>11579098Good but also redundant because we're never getting another gun megatron ever again.
>>11579098>extended magazineI had no idea. All these years I thought the gunrobo uncle special had everything, but I guess not.Yeah that'd work perfectly.
>>11579083>>11579061I'm honestly wondering if the section with the horns on the mold was damaged in some way or if it was never a part of the Earth version in the first place since only the ER two pack used the horns, no other release since has used them.
>>11579105hello, third parties exist.
I guess the animators didn't have the toy for reference and thought those were shoulder spikes?
>>11579122cursed
>>11579121Newage's Romulus is too short and lacks the stock and silencer parts.
>>11579035>>11579089suddenly Siege-Sideswipe prices on eBay are about to skyrocket.
>>11578590That transitional head looks way too close to the final animation model for it to be used as the head on the toyPlus there's some design limitations
>>11579145holy fucking shit
>>11579142too short in the robot mode? As a companion to 86 prime, yeah. Romulus is the Earthrise companion for now.
>>11577642I'm using the ground soldier as a G1 Dropkick and named the seeker Supercell (although Blackout works pretty well too)
>>11579157You'll never guess what the back of G1 Bumblebee's head is like.
>>11579165well that's on a plate and doesn't rotate!
>>11579145Its like that one picture of a motorcycle helmet after a crash. I'm sure her brains are just fine.
>>11579145kek what the actual fuck. it's that one TM Tigatron all over again
>>11579145Oh, come on!
>>11579189is there a REASON for it? if the back of the head needs to be flat to fit, could they not put a little hemisphere shape on a swivel, and let it rotate out?
>>11579145I guess you could say, she has half a mind to complain to someone.
>>11578252I don't think so but YMMV.
Why do modern ratchets wear down so fast?
>>11578252>>11579195Whatever case, it's well worth it for bot mode. Those stumpy stock feet are terrible.
>>11579145>>11579157>>11579192Do we know what the original's head looked like?Because it lines up with at one of her contemporaries
>>11579201
>>11579203>>11579189>>11579192>>11579157Missing Link isn't for you, you don't actually understand it. If you argue with me you never will
>>11579143If all MTMTE Sideswipes have the Red Alert head, then Hasbro is expecting a total recall of all of these things. You know how it is, if all copies are irreparably scuffed, then all copies must be returned, no questions asked.
>>11579206Alternatively they'll say fuck you
>>11579195shit, I think that actually makes it better. I guess I meant 'does it get in the way of transformation' and the answer is evidently no.>>11579200there's a real huge problem with current toys putting all the foot budget to the rear heel spurs, with shitty, stubby toes. that, and small beast mode heads, are really the main weak spots..>>11579201really? why was Kup's head like that?the weird thing about arcee's is that it's clearly two pieces, so they didn't save or anything.
>>11579213>the weird thing about arcee's is that it's clearly two pieces,Kup's head is two pieces tooThere's a flat plate back there, not just a hollow space
>>11579206Uh okay sweaty. >checks packaging Its canon now
>>11579204
>>11579198Older figures used strong ratchets that were combined with springs. Newer figures use ratchets that bend as you move the joint, with softer plastic.
>>11579204I understand missing link and I understand that it is technically accurate to the figures of the era and I own a ML cliffjumper. My question is why the cut is angled.
>>11577994>Nightracer is mostly black, not blue so it wouldn't work.So I'll throw some tamiya black on it. Dang.
>>11579215the flat plate is its own separate piece? huh.
Who's the best headmaster and why is it hardhead?
>>11579262>Who's the best headmasterSnapdragon
>>11579268we all know Megan Fox was the best headmaster. How do you think she got the role?
>>11579031You know, all hasbro had to do was make sure the skeleton limbs had the exact same ports for each combiner. They could remold stuff around it... but no, two combiners in, and they already fucked it up.
>>11579339The arms and legs are "supposed" to be part of the deluxe robots even if they are the frames.
>>11578048>"Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it is RACE DAY!"
>>11579404>"That is absolutely right and I would be remiss if I didn't mention the chants going on in the stadium right now this crowd is EEEE-LECTRIC!">"There's no other way to say it, these fans are fired up and they are ready to find out who will cross the finish line and be crowned Queen of Arcees.
>>11579404hey wait a minute..>>11579415which one is voiced by Greg Proops?
>>11579145
>Optimus, Megatron, Seekers, Soundwave It seems the writing is on the wall that we are starting over again. How long until we see a new round of car bots? Is it possible the upcoming 86 Sunstreaker is a new mold?
>>11579415>"And they're off! Nicee absolutely flying off the line into an early lead!">"We'll see if that 4 wheel drive system proves decisive! I could see that making a HUGE difference in the off-road portions of the track!>>11579418>which one is voiced by Greg Proops?The yellow one. I don't know their names.
>>11579426We already got new vanettes and bumblebee, so
>>11579339The frames are swappable though. It’s the same difference.
>>11579428>"Already they're dogging for position on the first corner!">"Nicee appears to be holding the lead and they're passing through the second turn and into the thir-
>>11579433
>>11579428i'd ride that..>>11579434NOoooooo
>Silverbolt can do the droopy Concorde nose thingBased
>>11579463Big if true
>>11579206Yeah, I don't see that happening.
>around USD 150I don't know should I give this a try The three figures do look cool but they are expensive expensive especially after 6 yearsAnd to be fair I think the head on Dai Atlas just doesn't look as good as other TR leader class.
>>11576987
>>11577338Galvatron was a raving retard where as with Megatron you felt like he had an agenda and a certain level of intelligence!!!FACT!!!
>>11579569Yes, Megatron's agenda was being a retard and he had a certain level of intelligence sub 100. Why else would he discard the antimatter formula and never use it again? Almost like he's a "new scheme every week" retarded villain...
>>11578862>loves kicker
>>11579426>Is it possible the upcoming 86 Sunstreaker is a new mold?It's probably ER stock they found in a warehouse somewhere.
>>11579426They're rereleasing ER Sunstreaker in that Target exclusive line. Hasbro likes to rerelease guys they're gonna 'upgrade' for one last round before releasing the replacement (look at Legacy Leader Soundwave) so there are good odds it may be a new mold.
>>11579580Yet somehow he was able to win and conquer Cybertron between Season 2 and the Movie.
>>11579333>This one was a weakling! Go buy SS86 Prime immediately, I need some challenge!
How many carbots are there even left to do in 86? I only remember seeing sunstreaker, prowl, wheeljack and hound. If 86 sunstreaker is a new mold will sideswipe get a new one? what can they even improve on the sideswipe's siege mold anyways? It's already pretty much perfect.
>>11579681He's a total D-lister but a new Tracks would be nice just because the current one is hot garbage.
>>11579681>>11579683If we are doing scale creep and de-greebling, they all need redone. Theyre all dated already. They probably made that new voyager price point so they can start shitting out everything as a voyager aka a big deluxe with muh high parts count
>>11578871>He pops off at the waist a lotNot when he is properly tabbed together he dosent >The Antenna parts on the Superion Head also pop off constantly if you look at them funnyHamhands. Also this is fixed with a tiny drop of glue >His weapon is laughableIts great. Most people dont even realize he can do the ‘arm gun’ from the cartoon
>>11579683Would Tracks be a leader class since he's technically a triple-changer?
>>11579671If I do it will be the last Optimus I ever buy. I can't keep doing this "incrementally better version of guy" shit forever, it has become tiresome and hollow.
>>11579705>total reboot 84-85 yet again.aw fuck that. can we PLEASE do some other guys?
>>11579729He’s not a triple changerHe’s an Omnibot
>>11579798It already started a long time ago actually. They were sly about it by starting with the deluxe minibots
>>11579810Yes I know.There's no reason to reset the clock, all over again, because some of the guys they just did again suck.
>>11579816They're just going to keep doing this forever, the pattern is pretty clear.
>>11579671>"A challenge, huh? Oh, I can do that..."This was my first time handling Classics Prime and I'm smitten.
>>11579801Arguably, so is Springer. All you do is stick a rotor on his car mode.
>>11579885Honestly he's so much fun. Just a really good, solid, substantial Voyager class Prime. I'm tempted to 3D print him more poseable feet and hands, and maybe design some kind of kit to allow his arm kibble to fold up onto his shoulders instead, but honestly even as he is he's great.
>>11579885The leg swivel on mine snapped years ago. It's weird as the mold is super solid and I never hamhand my toys.
>>11579885>>11579889I got the "One Shall Stand, One Shall Fall" two-pack with him and Megs a little while ago. The arm kibble is a tad annoying, but otherwise i like him - he's a fairly solid guy all around, and I like that his shotgun can become either shoulder cannons or a jetpack depending on how you place them.
>>11579625Almost like they were writing the movie entirely separate from the TV show...
GEEWUN FOREVER FAGGOTS HAHAHA
>>11579885Nothing makes me feel quite as old as people in my fandom saying they've never handled a Classics Optimus before
>>11579964He was around when I was a kid but I never actually had one until now. Go figure.
>>11579964I never handled it because my mom bought me Classics Jetfire instead. I finally found a Classics Prime MISB at my LCS for 20 dollars last year. Excellent find, haven't opened it yet though. He's calling to me...
>>11579580>Yes, Megatron's agenda was being a retardIn fairness to Megatron, the Autobots were also retards who spent more time playing basketball and watching soaps than they did trying to capture, kill or even stop him.It's interesting how much more "grown up" the movie feels even before all the killing and dying starts, just from that first scene on the moon base. Just because the Autobots are now suddenly treating the war like a legit military operation. The vibe is already different before the infamous shuttle scene. (the planetary omnicide also goes a long way for setting the new tone of course)
>>11579889There actually are articulated hands and feet for that mold on ebay but I haven't bought them because the print quality is probably going to bother me
>>11579339>>11579432They kinda doHowever Menasors legs are slightly longer/taller than Superion. So it is noticeably uneven, Hence why I have him in that stance>>11579712>Resident reditor shows up to defend this shitHe absolutely pops at the waist often>"Hamhands, oh but you can glue it"So you admit it pops off and you don't have that issue noww because you fucking glued it"It's a great weapon"CopeExpected shilling and slurping really
>>11579978I recently rewatched the 86 movie for the first time as an adult, and I noticed a couple of things.1) There is an action scene of some sort every 5 minutes or less. It's not as obnoxious and gratuitous as Rise of Cobra where your brain just shuts off, but it's not how I remembered it. At least it was all (mostly) good action.2) So much death, holy shit. If you had just watched any episode of the TV show before you saw this, you wouldn't think it was in the same continuity. And I'm not just talking about the obvious ones in the shuttle and Prime, etc. For example, the whole Quint planet sequence is just casual death after death. All the prisoners die save Hot Rod and Kup, the Quints are implied to be murdered by their Skarkticons, etc. A Sharkticon gets brained for fuck's sake. No wonder so many fans turned writers make their Transformers stuff killathons. And the craziest part is that so many Transformers act like this is business as usual. Starscream gets fucking disintegrated? The Decepticons just stand around like "okay". The shuttle got hijacked by Decepticons? No time to mourn the dead, let's just start fighting fuck it.
>>11579885>>11579889There's also a super cheap upgrade set for him that has been in stock for the longest time
>>11579996Truck mode turns into dogshit instead of kino and it doesn't really fix the arm kibble problem at all.
>>11579994A bunch of bots get smelted inside Unicron, with only Jazz Bumblebee and Cliffjumper (and Spike) making it to safety. I don't know if they're meant to be leftover Lithonians that Unicron just hadn't finished processing yet, or if the Moonbases had more than two guys each on them.
>>11579994Good post anon, I love talking shop about the movie especially with people coming from a fresh perspective. Yeah, that Sharkitcon that got his face clawed off is one of the more gnarly underrated deaths in the movie.>I don't know if they're meant to be leftover Lithonians that Unicron just hadn't finished processing yetThey look Cybertronian and not Lithonian. I always figured they were extra generic Autobots that were on the Moonbases.Some of the worst deaths in the movie too. Their screams are haunting.
This guy came today. Has anyone opened theirs yet?
>>11580019Didn't get him, but my Seaspray will be here in a few minutes when the mail arrives. I only ever owned the G1 toy of him, so I'm looking forward to this one.
>>11579471it is true, the nosecone has to rotate inwards to collapse for Robot/Superion torso modes, so the designers cut an indent for the nose to rotate downwards as well on the same pin. Droop snoot Concorde is real
>>11579985>resident retard Im sorry you dont know how to tab your toy together properly. Mine has never come apart at the waist unintentionally. Do you realize clips together in 4 places? It’s literally rock solid when you do it right. As for the antenna, no I didnt glue them because Im not a hamhands who knocks them off, I was just trying to help you tighten them up because they are removable. As for the gun I have no idea what you think it was supposed to look like in your imagination but here in reality it looks great
>>11580000>>11580016One of the melted bots looks like Beachcomber, at least before he gets dropped in. I also love how the whole movie the Autobots assume that Spike, Bumblebee, Jazz, and Cliffjumper somehow SURVIVED being attacked by a planet. Maybe they were vainly holding onto hope that somebody survives the death trap that is the 86 movie. Hell, even Springer almost bought it in from a Unicron tendril.
>>11580037seconding the waist bit here, make sure you plug in the back port first, then line up the two tabs and slots on silverbolt's crotch, then click silverbolt's back kibble into place over the back port, and then secure the chestplate. Has never come undone for me.I will say that superion's ear antennae are prone to popping off when you put him in a backpack or wherever.
>>11579705I don't think the carbots need to be scaled up.
>>11580072That and they don't need to be de-greebled either. The dinobots have tons of greebling and detail despite being from the 86 line, even the recent megatron and constructicons too. I don't know why they are just now going for the playskool plastic look for the new seekers and soundwave but at the end of the day they're all geewunn/generations based so they shouldn't look out of place on the same shelf.
>>11580056>Beachcomber>hates war>watches golden lagoon get destroyed>reassigned guard duty away from his beloved Earth>gets eaten by Unicron>melts to death in the smelting pool>Bumblebee gets to liveBeing Beachcomber is suffering.
>>11578871This is the same type of person telling you Devastator cant stand because of a bump on his foot and that his shoulder is loose
>>11579996Jesus actual hamhandsFucking hulk ass fists
>>11580019I got Gears for like sub $12 and haven't picked up the restI should
>>11580037>>11580121>>11580122>Spergs for three posts and posts more ass pics with the same dogshit background he actually thinks looks good
>>11580128Bro your pic’s background is your grandma’s house chill
>>11580121What bump are you talking about?Is there some meme with Mixmaster?Loose Shoulder? My Devastator is fine, just a little disappointing in spotsIf anything the combiner hands are the thing that's usually loose from what I hearFriend has awful pegs on his and it can't hold his gun for shit>>11580130It's clearly a normal desk, I just have a window right hereAre you retarded? Or you just pretend to be?
>>11580072>>11580074Every single one of them needs the same treatment given to Hot Rod. Not one of them is better than Roddy
