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>>11630281Not surprised. There was no way this was gonna go well, even aside from Ares bombing the films just aren't popular enough for that sort of thing- making it in a scale as niche as 1/18 is nowadays didn't help either. Also the price was absurd.
>>11630281It's disappointing. There are a lot of Tron fans out there who want this. It's just priced too high for what you get. Just last year the same money bought a nearly-three-foot-long Rattler with three 6" figures.
>>11630281shit is funny asf ngl
>>11630281It's just business anon, they need to offer better value sure but even then the interest might not be there from consumers, they don't care less about you so it's worthless carrying a grudge against them
>>11630281Kek. Only Transformers Haslabs have been consistently funded and even those can be at risk in the future after the absolute QC disaster the last one was.
>>11630385>Only Transformers Haslabs have been consistently fundedHave any GI Joe ones ever flopped without funding?>>11630378>they need to offer better valueThat's 100% the problem. It's not worth the price.
>>11630281>flopping harder than reva saberoh no no noAHAHAHAHA
>>11630388I think the Skystriker was looking iffy.
>>11630398But it did get funded. As far as I know the success rate for HASLAB GI Joe is 100% everything funded.
>>11630385I heard something about the Unicron one only hitting the target because they extended the deadline? The Liokaiser one struggled until the Japanese pre-orders were added to the total.
>>11630461The Unicron thing is true, but the Liokaiser one doesn't mean anything, previous Haslabs were updating the numbers with international orders from time to time instead of waiting for the final quantity and that's it. At the end of the day is the same thing, people just had to wait more to see the real numbers reflected on the site. There was no real struggle.Funny thing is that after a bug the number went down to just funded with no tiers and they never fixed it. The Haslab site is a mess.
>>11630461>Unicron one only hitting the target because they extended the deadline?IIRC Takara only opened preorders (the only way to get haslabs in Japan) like a day before the deadline so they had to extend it just to tally all the asian backers.
>>11630461The Unicron also was getting screwed by having the prototype get progressively worse paint apps making a bunch of people really reluctant to order in the first place. Half the teeth wound up unpainted and the planet mode mouth ended up with an ugly gray part around the teeth.Plus the overall dumpy proportions modern transformers have been cursed with.
>>11630596The Hot Rod/Galvatron mini-figs were supposed to come painted (but didn't) and with better detail.
>>11630404Yeah, the Joe team hasn't missed yet.
>>11630398Skystriker just missed out on second unlock tier, falling less then 100 backers short for it. Which is a shame because the ground crew guys would work WAY better for a display then random Night Force Paratrooper. The fact they made it for O-Ring collectors with no consideration or compatibility with ME fans turned a LOT of people away. The O-Ring stuff just hasn't been as in demand as other Joe offerings as if late as nostalgia can only carry a brand so far. The Classified offerings are batting a thousand though, going full unlocks for each release to date. And if the next one turns out to be the Thunder Machine as is rumored, that won't change any time soon. Though if it is the Thunder Machine, I really hope Hasbro rolls out Cold Slither again, seeing them at NYCC was the highlight of the weekend for me.
>>11630308Just last year Marvel Legends were $25, and DC Multiverse was $22.99.THE TAIMES THEY ARE A'CHANGIN'
>>11630649>they made it for O-Ring collectorsNo shit. O-ring collectors are the ones who'll spend thousands on the right piece instead of hundreds. A lot of Classified collectors like to try to marginalize the O-ring collectors but they were collecting Joes first, and they're willing to pay more for the right piece. >The O-Ring stuff just hasn't been as in demand as other Joe offerings as if late as nostalgia can only carry a brand so far. Nostalgia helps sell the Classified stuff too. Very little of the Classified line is NOT derived from the 80s stuff.
>>11631007O-Ring collects are nostalgiafags who can't let the 80s go. They compromised the entire Classified line, when they screamed and cried about how the first couple waves were too different than what they were used to, which is why Hasbro axed the sci-fi aesthetics of the early stuff. Not only did they end up gearing the Classified line more toward the OG looks, but then they just released the retro card line anyway. And most people still piss and shit themselves and then cry because the figures are STILL "too different" from the OG looks.
>>11631032Oh well. GI Joe is a nostalgia brand. Deal with it. And I'll bet that your "wish list" for the line is 100% stuff from the 80s line that you want in Classified scale.
Hey they finaly reached 1,200, which is 12% of the way there. By the end of the last three days they might hit 1,220.
>>11631036NTA but it is possible, and reasonable, to have nostalgia for something and want updates of it whilst also wanting improvements and modernization in areas rather than a 1:1 remake of what already exists. Same with Transformers; I can enjoy G1 and want a figure of G1 Optimus Prime without demanding he look EXACTLY like the cartoon model, ugly bits and all.
>>11631062>NTA but it is possible, and reasonable, to have nostalgia for something and want updates of it whilst also wanting improvements and modernization in areas rather than a 1:1 remake of what already existsThat only works on a rare occasion like with Crystal Ball. For others like Baroness, we got five versions, and only one is any good thanks to modernization. At any rate Hasbro tries to balance the brand to make everyone happy. There's cartoon-derived stuff (Cold Slither and the Snowcat HASLAB), there's modernized versions which are the majority, and there's new stuff like cops, Ghost Viper, and various general military figures. And I'd rather have 1984 Baroness and Zartan done 1:1 in the 6-inch scale instead of the crap we got.
>>11631068That's the weirdest Daria figure I've ever seen.
So is this the worst performing Haslab ever now? Worse than Cookie Monster even?
>>11631432Yep. But unlike Cookie Monster, this one had a lot of demand. It's entirely the price that made it flop
>>11631440Eh, the price definitely didn't help but Tron isn't exactly an evergreen brand and 1:18 is kind of an unpopular scale these days.
>>11631440>a lot of demand>for Tron>a franchise that consistently flops every time it releases anything
>>11631465We always have to question if Tron really is popular. It's a cult classic, but how does that translate to real sales in modern day? We just don't know for sure even if they did everything right. If I were a demon mouselike businessman, I would sell the IP or shelve it. It's risky.
>>11630281hasbro told all the 3.75 bros to fuck off 20 years ago, probably woulda funded if 1/12
>>11631465Look at the value of the vintage stuff. It wouldn't be priced that high if people didn't want it.
https://youtu.be/-3Mm8wDH9Fk?si=kQ66DF25ClJCB0xj
>>11630281If this had been $100 cheaper I think it would have had a shot. Me and a buddy at work, we're both in our late 40s, toy collectors, and we both had the original toys growing up. We're exactly who this was made for but we laughed our asses off at that price. It sucks, I genuinely would have bought these for at retail for a decent price.
>>11632255It's weird because I've never seen collectors have a limit on price before when the item is truly desirable. Like the $60 Doom Slayer from McFarlane--even though it's a brick that can barely move? Sold out. Just because people want Doom Guy. Toyally.This leads me to run counter to the narrative of this thread. I doubt Tron figures are that desirable if its fans can resist due to an extra $100 or so. Either that or its fans are actually intelligent and know that plastic shaped characters should be worth very little when it comes down to it. Maybe 6 bucks for a 3.75" figure would be fair with today's economy. Whereas Hasbro tries to use mind tricks and manipulation to make people pay far more than reasonable.
>>11632577A year ago the same money bought a massive Rattler with three of the best figures in the Classified line to date. When you notice that, your brain forces itself to evaluate whether or not one of two equally-priced items is a good buy in comparison to the other. In this case: No.
>>11632598Tariffs mean all future Haslabs will need to have their prices adjusted.
>>11632606Tariffs also mean that Hasbro needs to do more to make it more worth the money so buyers still feel like they got their money's worth.
>>11632606if aliexpress randos can get stuff in bulk on a boat here for minimal cost then so can hasbro the tariffs really don't mean much anon
>>11632614If you see this Haslab, I can assure you they will not do that.>>11632651Doesn't matter, Hasbro will charge higher prices whether it's a real or fake cost to them.
>>11632652I saw it. I want it. I just can't rationalize the price of something I know is not a good buy that's worth it. If they had done the norm of three tiers of unlocks to add more to the set, then depending on what those unlocks are it would have been worth it.
>>11631465People in charge of Tron just have a humilation fetish at this point
Do you guys think Hasbro expected this to fail? Was it sent out only so they could say to Disney "eh we tried"?
>>11633425no, hasbro is just completely retarded
>>11633425I think they felt it might fail, but didn't expect it to.
So this is how it ends; not with a bang or whimper, but with a "LOL GET WRECKED, FAGIT."
>>11633572What a huge final day push for this project
>>11633572Disney's laughing at Hasbro right now since they still get paid their MG over a failed IP.Maybe Hasbro will get their money back from KPop Demon Hunters sales, if anybody is still talking about that come spring?
>>11633722What the fuck is this schizo rambling about You think Hasbro lost an amount of money they would care about on this? You think this is something they actually wanted to make? You think Disney wasn't the one asking for Tron toys when Hasbro didn't want to make them so they made it a Haslab that nobody would fund? RETARD
>>11633774I'm just glad it didn't fund.
>>11633774>>11633722I don't understand why Hasbro would want anything to do with the Tron IP. It's extremely risky. Is this basically something Disney is forcing on them to keep the Star Wars and Marvel IPs? Like it's some bundle deal?
>>11630314It must be a big ass waste of money for hasbro when these projects fail lmao
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>>11630281Always nice seeing a mousecuck product flop.
>>11633774Paying for a license is expensive.If Hasbro expected to get 10,000 sales from this, that's over 2.6 million dollars. With royalties and the license, they licensor usually gets about 5-20% from whatevers sold and that's usually spread out across 50k-10million units. So the percentage is now higher due to lower sales expectations. This is why the Tron figures cost as much as they do, because there's way less product being sold to absorb that cost of production + licensing fees.Anyway, so now they're out of making their money back from the license.They're out of all the resources they spent making the prototypes, which is wasted man hours and employees. Those employees and hours would have been better spent making products that sell in the hundreds of thousands of units and even millions.So Hasbro considers this a pretty big loss and will affect future projects. Executives aren't fans of anything but money, and don't understand or care if something is popular or not, because how can they trust the Haslab managers again after they chose the Tron project?>>11633812Hasbro was given a packet from Disney about how Tron Legacy was it's 89th most popolar movie, generating more cash at theaters than Cars 3, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Thunderbolts, Black Widow, and just a few tens of million dollars away from Beauty and the Beast.They probably also showed them how they sold $50 million worth of DVD/BDs for the original tron and how Tron Legacy sold nearly $70 million in BD/DVDs, so it has a very stable and somewhat large fanbase. It's a sure fucking thing!... of course, who wants to spend nearly $300 for something you won't get until almsot 2 years later? And how many Tron fans even knows that Haslab exists?the 2020s is an awful time to be living in. It's already as bad as the 1970s.
>>11633867>the 2020s is an awful time to be living in.Only for Americans
>>11633831I wonder what kind of 'team' puts together the Haslab for Tron though since Tron isn't a consistent property. I also imagine this will have them shy away from doing Haslabs for anything that is not already something they produce a line for like Transformers, GI Joe, Marvel, or Star Wars. I guess Ghostbusters might be an exception since that has worked in the past.
>>11633867I would say it is fair for them not to trust whoever greenlit this either. I could've told them this would fail and I'm outside the toy industry. It's insanely risky to do anything Tron, it's an IP known for flops. It has a cult following sure, but that following also tends to be more savvy than your average Hasbro customer that is all in on a line and is buying a lot of product.
Hasbro really needs to reevaluate how much they need Disney these days.
>>11633909Honestly everybody does considering disney adults are to blame for this
>>11633909I don't think they have much choice.Disney probably bullies Hasbro into getting the licesne, which is actually pretty common. Even Hasbro has done shit like that, like we've seen with IDW.>it would be a real shame if you didn't license this hot upcoming movie that needs cross promotion to make it even hotter. You can afford to get Star Wars and Marvel, so whats a little more in what could potentially be our third hottest boys product? Since you're only second to Mattel in action figure toy makers, who would pay even more money than you for the Star Wars and Marvel licenses, we'll give you a good deal on Tron"Despite Star Wars crashing and Marvel bleeding fans, they still make billions of dollars for Hasbro. Losing those licenses would likely bankrupt the company, so what's the harm in losing tens of millions of dollars in the short term versus the long term ramifications of pissing Disney off?
>>11633925Hasblow should just die
ITS OVER
>changed it to a greyed out death imageholy kek
>>11633956Damn I’m really worried for the legacy figures
