https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px2BrUWbDqUI saw this really cool toy video, and wanted to share it here :3
>>11664086why did you remake this thread
>>11664087schizo-posting
>>11664089GR11 exists for a reason faghttps://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/deleted/deleted/
I stopped buying Transformers 1st, because of the whole groomer woke trans shit they were pushing on kids in their recent cartoon and 2nd... the toys are no fun. I grew up unscrewing Micronauts and Transformers to swap body parts around, but now Hasbro has these deep rivets everywhere that I'm just not skilled enough to remove. It used to be FUN to buy multiple recolors of the same molds to build 1 or 2 cooler-colored figures. Now... that's gone. Hasbro JUST wants you to buy a character and you better not have hopes of swapping all you wanted to.In related news, I've spent easily like over $1000 on the newer Masters of the Universe figures compared to ZERO on Transformers... why?Because Mattel got BRILLIANT, making the limbs swappable (and even a step MORE swappable if you bring in a bowl of hot water you microwaved 1 minute).
>>11664851>the toys are no funThis. Who has time to memorize all those transformations? I'd rather have something that is just the robot mode.
>>11664851>Toys are no fun because they can't do something they were never designed to do in the first place >>11664863>Toys aren't good be cause I'm a brainletTransformers have plenty of problems but you're retarded.
>>11664086oh wow it's LE HECKING thread where boomer losers crying about "i'm don with Hasbro!!! >:("the only good thing boomers are good for - kissing them while they holding you like in picrelated
>>11664906That's a millenial kissing a genZ tho
>>11664908looks like boomer to meone of those "older dad having over 9000 transformers at the background" - the channel
>>11664086LMAO, than don't. Gonna be easier to secure copy for me. Go buy 3rd party where you have to follow 600 transformation steps, and fold roof of a car 40 times to create cartoon accurate arm, without breaking it.
>>11664863>I'd rather have something that is just the robot mode....there are plenty options for that? Also, LMAO, complaining that Transformers TRANSFORM. Oh noes, the horror.>>11664851>Waaaaaah, why can't I break toys the way I want?
my audio is so fucked up it tanked the video. bought a new mic
if this video doesnt get 1000 views by next week i'm deleting it, and becoming trans
>>11664863You know they do include instructions if you want to do it quickly.
>>11664939Not a transforminger fag just checked cuz of the negativity bait.As an outsider this sounds like hyper autist faggotry with esl mode activated. Is that normal ?
>>11665036Its Kenny, he’s always seethed about 3P here with his gibberish spam. Also wish jannies would nuke these shittuber threads
>>11665173who the hell is kenny?
>>11665217>you don’t know the loreIf you don’t know the shitters here by heart, you have no business shilling and acting like a veteran here when you can’t identify a chungus post.
>>11665218i dont care about bootleg transformers. sorrylast time i bought one was transform element mirage
>>11665036Ues
i took the video down. you win 4channel
>>11664880>Toys aren't good be cause I'm a brainletI shouldn't be required to be a brainlet to play with a fucking TOY.
The thing with Transformers, concessions usually have to be made to the robot and alt modes.
>>11665519Concessions shouldn't include "thinner, crappier plastic" and "everything is a hollow shell and every single toy requires a $50 gap filler aftermarket kit to not be crap."
>>11664906Damn this is a hot picturehow can i trick Patriot Prime into holding me like that
>>11664880No, I'm a customer with a big, fat wallet, and one that has classically been buying Transformers since they first hit the shelves, nay, imports before they were even called Transformers. I'm not sure why it's so hard for you to understand that "not being able to break them" (color-swap them) with a simple screwdriver equals LOST SALES. Like I said, Mattel gets it, with the Origins line. You have He-Man, He-Turtles, He-Thundercats, He-WWE, similar WWE and with a bowl of warm water, even MORE figure lines of theirs that have compatible parts. Hasbro's not interested in profit, wanting Transformers LOCKED as they are... that's soooooo boring. I bought like 3 different, modern Blaster figures in different colors... uh oh... there's screws, but there's a deep-holed RIVET blocking you from sanely taking him apart. That's Not. Fun. But more than that, it's ALSO not a reason to want to buy any more Transformers, if they can't be augmented. And frankly, only buying DNA custom sets that sometimes cost even more than the actual figure to "fix" the hollowed-out gaps and other penny-pinching retardation they pull to save 2 shekels is also NO. FUN. And then there's expensive toyhax sticker sheets to further fix their cheap-assness. Look, you do you, but buying multiple Transformers of the same mold to make 1 cool one is FUN, and it's been taken away. I think the last time i had "fun" with buying Transformers was buying different variants of Ultra Magnus to maker a dark, cooler one. (Seen here in unfinished state, still needing the white of the lower legs needing to be maybe neon green, maybe super dark purple).
>>11665524This. A lot of alt modes practically look like dollar store toys.
JANNIES PLEASE DELETE MY THREAD
>>11664086>naming my nigga Detritus as the worst of anythingThat's gonna be a no from me buddy.
>>11664086why can't Americans make anything of value?
>>11665637Your fault for being a pedotuber spamming his slop here
>>11665743Athena, stop making the same bot posts every time you freak
>>11665643No, I'm not done laughing at (you).btw, all these posts in this thread? All me, I fucking love having a conversation with myself.
holy shit, the reupload is going to get 1000 views by the end of the night.I dont have to become trans. god bless
>>11664961I AM A STRAIGHT WHITE MALE
>>11664086>pics/footage entirely stolen from sixotf, primevsprime, thattoyguy etc>opinions as retarded as ever>is a fucking furry...also Detritus is a fucking great toyYiff in hell, unbannablemedia
>>11665220Some of my best Transformers are the bootlegs, straight from the high-quality, expensive 3P ones, and right down to the Big Lots recolored bootlegs that let you swap parts into your legit ones.
>>11665632>nay, imports before they were even called TransformersI don't believe that you were partswapping Joustra Diaclone variants in 1983 or some shit, you weird LARPer. Also, you don't have to "memorise" transformations, you figure them out; that's fundamental to Transformers as a puzzle-play toy concept.
My only complain on TF is it's getting less creative. Now the main toylines are centered around nostalgia and remakes. They don't put as much effort into making new toylines good.
>>11666328that's what happens when you hire woke tarded IDW writers to make non-binary gay owls
>>11666330Singaore.
>>11666328Wild King is pretty awesome. They even hid a secret building system in it.
>>11666330I don't care about Earth Spark because of the uninspiring Evergreen designs since Cyberverse. IDW designs are not bad.To be honest, I don't watch any TF media. I only care about cool looking robot design and what play features is packed with the toy.
>>11666332The limitation of Wild King is when you combined the arm to Energy Master, it won't have elbow bend.
>honestly? it's over>it's done >there's no going back now >this just in, everything's inflated>we're finished as a nation>the west has fallen
>>11666334I've seen TF One, it's a good movie. But the designs are bland. Hence I am not interested of their toys.
>>11666343>it's a good moviewrong, failed for a reason
>>11666342>>11666348Go away ken.
>>11666348yes of course it failed. No one cares about Transformers yet they spend millions on a list hollywood stars for voice acting instead of just hiring voice actors for about $250 an hour. Didn't help they spend zero on marketing.
>>11666350The most effective marketing strategy is getting some big movie YouTuber review the movie or some influencers posting about it.
>>11666337Incorrect
>>11666360Wild King really is one of those "only limited by your creativity" sort of lines
>>11666360Wow this is cool. I wonder if you can make the knee bend as well when combined.Just imagine if given more budget and time to develop this line, it would certainly be better.
>>11666365New TF lines should be going in this direction
>>11666377Chunkily enough
>>11666366>I wonder if you can make the knee bend as well when combined.The built-in knee bend is still there; it's just the regular elbow that you lose in the "official" configuration.>Just imagine if given more budget and time to develop this lineCombination aside, I've been picking up the Diaclone Tactical Mover series since it started and that's a high end version of a surprisingly similar shared-transforming-core-frame-with-add-ons concept to the Energy Beasts (that's part of what attracted me to Wild King in the first place)
>>11666326... puzzle/play concept? For fucking action figures?
>>11666348What was bad about Transformers One?
>>11666421I'm not sure you actually know what Transformers are, anon.
>>11665632>toyhax sticker sheets are expensive painting is cheaper
>>11665632>I'm not sure why it's so hard for you to understand that "not being able to break them" (color-swap them) with a simple screwdriver equals LOST SALES. Because most people who buy Transformers don't give a shit about that, and you're delusional for thinking otherwise.The only reason people think screws are better is for repairs, pretty muck nobody gives a flying fuck about swapping pieces.
>>11666502I would prefer they design the parts to be able to disassemble, that you can easily fix loose or tight joint yourself.
>>11666584Then buy a 3D printer and make your own
>>11666584I used to think similarly, but I was happy to discover that not being able to tighten pinned joints is a myth>apply a small amount of your joint tightener of choice (I use polyurethane varnish) along where the pinned components meet>move the joint to work in the fluid>wipe off any excess>repeat as necessaryUnfortunately, much of the fandom is like our "friend" unbannablemedia and just repeat stuff they hear online without ever verifying
>>11666611unbannable media is a underage zoomer looking to make a quick buck he doesn't care about toys
>>11666615underage: falseZooomer: trueAm I getting harassed because i'm not an old man?>>11666611stop the lies. I have been the biggest supporter of metal pinned joints forever. Now that its the accepted standard, you guys want to act like i never supported it, when i've been making threads about it since 2019
>>11666618I prefer zero metal. No screws, no pins, just plastics snaps together.
>>11666618>I have been the biggest supporter of metal pinned joints forever. Now that its the accepted standard, you guys want to act like i never supported itI have no idea who you are, unbannablemedia, other than someone who makes videos loaded with the kind of conjecture parroted ad nauseum here and on other forums, which I'm alluding to in >>11666611>Am I getting harassed because i'm not an old man?NTA but you're getting called out for appealing to the algorithm by making clickbait full of misinformation and zero insight
>>11664086What kind of engineer are you supposedly? You didn't really seem to get how Lego would be made in your last video.
>>11666633Chemical
>>11666627Ah ok.I'll go back to unboxing figures with a handcam. Thank you for the advice.
>>11666655>I'll go back to unboxing figures with a handcam.Unironically a better use of your time than stealing footage and spreading misinformation. Who cares if it gets hardly any views, at least it'd be authentic. If you've got a qualification then why not get a job rather than baiting for potential pennies on YT?
>>11664086Eat shit and rope yourself already
>>11666759He's either a literal retard, or more likely based on his channel, a bot.
why do Americans turn a hobby for children's toys into hard ass alpha male debate bro nonsense?
>>11664086They key to a good Transformer toy is having an excellent alt mode that becomes a passable robot in the most effective way possible. But we've lost that balance. Now, it's all about making the bot mode as Sunbow/cartoon accurate as possible (with ankle tilts, of course) and slapping the rest together. That's ass-fucking backward. It's basically the same design philosophy as MP, only without the budget to make the alt mode work too, so everything ends up with really unsatisfying transformations and half-assed, incomplete-feeling vehicle modes.The reason this has happened and few have noticed is simple; a good majority of "Transformer" fans aren't actually into cars, or robots, or transforming robot toys, or even "toys" at all. They just like the franchise and the characters and demand plastic sumulacrums for their "nerd shelves", so all that matters to Hasbro is churning out recognizable robots, and not necessarily fun or cool ones. Who'd have thunk that gearing a toyline to appeal to a bunch of tasteless old farts who don't actually like toys could have resulted in a bad toyline? Really makes you think...This is why Missing Link fucking rules. It's actually okay for your robot modes to be a bit jank at the cost of a simple, fun transformation and a tidy alt mode. This was the whole idea behind Diaclone (and thus most G1 Transformers) in the first place. Ultimately, Japs know how to make a good robot toy, and burgers don't. Shocking.
>>11667654>a bunch of tasteless old fartsHow do you explain Transformers enduring all this time? It's not all G1 stuff.
>>11667483A LOT of autists like Transformers in particular.
>>11667654The opinion of what makes a good Transformers toy and what's most important is very indicative of one's age and when they started playing with Transformers.
>>11667667>How do you explain Transformers enduring all this time?Beast Wars, and then Michael Bay.>>11667671Not really, no. It simply has to do with whether or not you actually like toys, or you just like characters. If you actually like toys, you will have the same opinion. If you only like characters, your opinion will be irrelevant drivel.
>>11667667>How do you explain Transformers enduring all this time?because it did new things every now and then like a green grimlock and decepticon dinobots
>>11667671>The opinion of what makes a good Transformers toythe second movie had the best toyline of all time and got china into the films which benefitted the brand and production of third party bootlegs
>>11667686So toys=cars. Robots aren't toys, action figures aren't toys, only cars and other alt modes are considered toys.
>>11667705The simple fact is that a Transformer is a car that stands up and becomes a robot. Not a robot that lies down and rolls. The former is a brilliant toy concept with broad appeal, regardless of marketing. The latter, not so much. It has nothing to do with thinking cars are toys and robots are not, or whatever defensive drivel you're horking.
>>11667761>robots in disguise are cars that stand up and not robots that disguise themselvesWe get it, back in your day Transformers had shit articulation and you feel the need to rationalize your personal preference. But your age is showing. >inb4 more denial
>>11667765Correct. My point is that in a transformer, articulation is the LEAST important thing, next to "accuracy". If you care about articulation, buy poseable action figures or model kits. A transformer needs to transform and do a good job of it. Otherwise it's a shitty toy.
>>11667789>in a transformer, articulation is the LEAST important thing, next to "accuracy"this, basically. A transformer has three elements: bot mode, alt mode, and transformation. Ideally, you don't too much of an imbalance in any direction, but if your alt mode and transformation are suffering in service of the bot mode (like current Hasbro offerings are) then you're objectively fucking it up and may as well just make a highly-articulated, non-transforming figure instead of wasting plastic (like hasbro is).
>>11667483Go away Rat
>>11667700Again, that's G1. Transformers has a ton of comics, movies and cartoons and toys for each.
>>11667905>muh G1
TF has lost its coolness. When you go to the toy isle to search for TF toys, all you can find is 80's vehicles. You don't get to see current gen cars. When I was a kid, part of the appeal of TF toys is seeing new concept car gets turn into a transforming robot.
>>11667917Is it because they don't want to spring for the extra fees associated with that?
>>11667920the Bayformer movies helped that and was mutually beneficial, like hot wheels has made cybertruck toys if Hasbro did it you better believe itd boost Hasbro stock
>>1166792080's vehicles have licensing fees too. My point is Hasbro overly pandering to 80's kids, they failed to innovate to appeal to kids today.
>>11667923What was that one car company that was in one movie originally and then pulled out?
>>11667927When was the last time you saw a Bumblebee with the Volkswagen logo on it?
>>11667928Audi. They originally did not want their cars portrayed as violent alien robots but then wanted back in but it was too late.
>>11667929I don't know, I didn't put too much attention on G1. I think Classics is a good toyline, it reimagined the G1 characters in new vehicle mode at the time and given stylized design for the robot.
I know G1 collectors don't care about robot design, their standard are based solely on the accuracy of the cartoon or comics.But if you look at the toys in a different perspective, you'll see all those toys have very unappealing robot design.
>>11664961>becoming
so 4chan, do i double down on pissing off transformers fans or never talk about tranny formers again?Clearly its bad for my analytics
I got brigaded by manchildren. Worst rated video ever
Detritus is a bad figure?
>>11668001Fuck off retard. No one here likes you.
Nobody cares you faggot
>>11668000Do it
>>11668001Do views honestly even matter when you're producing nothing of value?
I've watched a few of your videos and you do nothing but complain. It gets old really fast.
I saw many young reviewers try to appeal to the boomer demographics by saying how much they love G1. It works well for them as a business but it gets soulless and unauthentic, you don't get the actual personal preference or critique from them, they'll just follow the majority voices and numbers.
>>11668725That's what the kids like, apparently? Dreary videos where a bored-sounding American dude tells you that things used to be better when they were a kid back in [insert year in the 2000s].
>>11668771Every generations does that and everyone finds the different generations doing that to be obnoxious.
>>11668780Nah, there's a difference between some old fuck rambling about the post war era with rose tinted lenses and some kid talking about fucking Chima (2013-2015) like it was the halcyon days of yore (whilst sounding ready to an hero themselves). One seems to be a much newer phenomenon.
>>11665632>"not being able to break them" (color-swap them) with a simple screwdriver equals LOST SALESTo be fair yours is a very extreme and unique case, the amount of "people who buy toys with the specific intention of swapping parts around" likely only makes an insignificant fraction of the market of toy collectors.
>>11667654>They just like the franchise and the characters and demand plastic sumulacrums for their "nerd shelves"That does explain the success of transformers blokees figures>>11667761>a Transformer is a car that stands up and becomes a robot. Not a robot that lies down and rolls.No.A Transformer is a robot that turns into a car/animal/whatever and back into a robot.Alternators has IMPECCABLE altmodes. Nobody likes Alternators because the transformations are fucking ass and the robots look bad.There needs to be a balance between the modes, the linewide gimmick and the key play feature of the entire toyline which is *transforming*(it's in the name of the franchise if you haven't noticed)
>>11668725people won't click my positve content which is why i deleted it all
>>11668876I made a kiwi farms about you, all your info is there
>>11668878don't forget the channel link.
>>11668851>Nobody likes Alternators because the transformations are fucking ass and the robots look bad.Right, they suck because the transformation sucks. Just like I said. Most of the robot modes aren't even that bad-looking, it's just that the overal transformation is fiddly and unstable, which makes them a poorly-designed toy. Most of the Alternators robot modes would be perfectly serviceable if it weren't such a tireless ball-ache to get them there.You need a vehicle mode that looks cool and a transformation that is simple and fun to do in order to have a successful toy. G1 already proved this. You can't re-write history. It's ideal if robot modes don't suck, but they're the objectively the least-important part of the equation, and if any element should suffer the most compromise, it should always be the robot mode.
>>11668890>You need a vehicle mode that looks cool and a transformation that is simple and fun to do in order to have a successful toy.No.RotF Leader Prime proves transformations don't need to be simpleAlternators prove that alt modes aren't a selling point.
>>11668952>RotF Leader Prime proves transformations don't need to be simpleInterestingly, Hasbro mentioned in contemporaneous interviews that they consciously rowed back the complexity for DotM after RotF as it was seen to cause frustration in kids and surmised to discourage repeat purchases by parents (I specifically remember the sheer amount of mid-transformation leader OPs on eBay). Great toy in a vacuum, though, no arguments there.
>>11668952>Alternators prove that alt modes aren't a selling point.2003-2006 (2007 in Japan and even longer if including Alternity) is a pretty good line longevity, so unsure if one can say they didn't sell. Compare that to something like the Titanium Series' 2006-2007.(Same anon as >>11668952 but not >>11668890for transparancy's sake)
>>11668975Same anon as >>11668970 but not >>11668890...is what I should've typed, fuck me
>>11668975>TitaniumTitanium had bad robot modes, terrible transformation and ok alt modes.
>>11668991Not the toys, anon, compare the line’s longevity; Alternators seemingly found a market where Titaniums did not.That aside, though, the Titanium Rodimus is possibly still the best Rodimus Prime transformation to this day.
>>11668952>RotF Leader Prime proves transformations don't need to be simpleI feel like it did. Most people admitted to leaving it on a shelf in one mode or the other even back when it was new. It wasn't a toy, it was a display piece.>Alternators prove that alt modes aren't a selling point.I never said that they were. I just said they were vital ingredient to making a good transformer. Alternators suffer from other problems that make them bad toys, which I've already pointed out.It's funny how you're selectively retarded just so you can keep pretending to have an argument.
>>11668952>RotF Leader Prime proves transformations don't need to be simpleBut it makes for much better toy. Isn't there a Rhinox that's pretty decent but it's a bitch to transform?
>>11669768Kingdom Rhinox? That thing sucks regardless of the crappy leg transformation.
>>11669662>I just said they were vital ingredient to making a good transformer.Everyone can agree that Cybertron Optimus' Alt modes are shit, you can see his hands right there in the front and the flying mode is a joke, but it's still a very beloved toy
>>11667929any of the Bumblebee Movie Bumblebees and the Netflix Bumblebee tooling.
Hey, how many Goldbug figures have we gotten?
