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Finally a smiling superman head
Locked as DLC to a Clark Kent figure so now I need to buy two

>>11688015
That's more of a smirk.

>>11688015
I was planning on getting Clark and Bruce anyway so the bonus DLC for figures I already own is just icing on the cake.

>>11688049
Same thing, don’t be pedantic

>>11688004
This is why I don't get why they use these extremely bright colors, as it looks better and more like a collectible as a darker, matte yellow in this case for example. The bright yellow is just garish.

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>>11688015
The last Hush sold out most it's pre-orders.

You can probably easily sell that second Superman (and possibly the Clark Kent since you sound more excited about a smiling head than a civilian Superman) for what you paid and have a free head, dude.

Be happy.

Superman wants you to be happy.

Ugh, now I've got wait a week for Zatanna and Red Tornado. At least I can go get my Barry... whenever they plow the road out of town...

>>11688068
I probably will break down and get Clark. I got another $200 bonus and there's only so much Japanese whiskey someone can buy and I don't want to take it as income and pay taxes on excess like this if they will just give it to me as an American Express Gift Card.

>>11688130
your amazon zatanna get delayed?

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Did you guys get your BR Catwoman? Seems like there was a lot of hype around the BR wave when announced but not a lot of talk about it after it released.

>>11688178
No, not Amazon. It's not even delayed it always takes bbts like 4 days to pack and ship my orders.

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Will the upcoming Wonder Woman 80s figure be the definitive WW?

Will the recent leak of the upcoming Wonder Woman 80s figure, it's likely this will be based on Jose Luis Garcia Lopez or George Perez. Hopefully they improve the Wonder Woman Collector's Edition release especially with the face.

>>11688202
You can easily explain this as hyperinflation and that literally everything else is markedly more expensive than it was six years ago. Yes, the price of toys is outpacing actual inflation, but it's still the direct cause. Why are you guys so dumb?

>>11688226
It should not be above actual inflation. There's no reason little plastic men need to be inflating at a higher rate than everything else.

>>11688226
Marvel Legends was also 19.99 in 2020 and is $28 now--not $35. What's Todd's excuse? And don't give me any "please understand, smol company" crap, since Todd specifically said being small and not having shareholders was what led him to be able to keep his prices lower.

>>11688239
It's because you goobers will pay for it. Simple as. Luxury good pricing has always outpaced actual inflation. This isn't exclusive to just toys. Look at computer parts right now.

>>11688242
>What's Todd's excuse?
He's a greedy faggot and you retards keep giving him money. I don't buy McFigures so I don't contribute to this problem.

>>11688217
Do you steal these posts from Reddit or you are the same guy posting on both sites? Anyway, great head sculpt, too bad it took this long

>>11688259
Electronics has always underpaced inflation until AI nonsense though.

Also I'm not still buying them, I'm genuinely confused as to who is besides scalpers.

>>11688262
It's AI, you dumb bitch

>>11688239
You know it costs money to make your toys, right? They don't magically appear on Target shelves.

>>11688355
You know other products cost money to make too, anon, right? They also don't magically appear on Target shelves. But they do inflate at a lower rate.

>>11688364
Once again dipshit, luxury goods like toys will always inflate at a higher rate than non luxury goods.

>>11688372
Tell that to chicken meat during the chicken cullings--for that period it sure went up faster than toys. Or do you think meat is a luxury good too, Klaus?

>>11688375
Ah yes, let's just cherry pick instances where something out of the ordinary caused a change in the market. That's totally the same thing. You faggots argue like literal goddamn children. How old are you?

>>11688364
Action figures inflate faster because they’re not priced like normal consumer goods. Artificial scarcity, collector demand ≠ practical demand (people don't NEED action figures), secondary market stuff, “mint in box” culture... supply and demand. It's simple economics really.

>>11688378
Maybe you shouldn't make absolute statements like
>luxury goods like toys will always inflate at a higher rate than non luxury goods.
>ALWAYS

See the ALWAYS?

>>11688382
During the 19.99 era they actually resisted inflation rather well.

>>11688383
Chicken (food) is a luxury good? Where do you live?

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It feels like stores have kinda given up on stocking this shit. Doesn't help that all these stupid variants of Adam Strange sit around.

>>11688386
Think you're quoting the wrong post

>>11688388
Someone approved this headsculpt. How many figures from McFarlane are out there where the headsculpt is an abomination that never would've been approved at a company with integrity?

If a toy goes from $20 to $35, collectors will still buy it. If say If bread doubles in price people will complain and buy their bread at another store. Scarcity is built into luxury goods. Scarcity + desire = faster price growth. Non luxury goods (food for example) are produced continuously so prices can’t spiral the same way.

>>11688397
And yes, scarcity with non luxury goods does happen in times of natural disaster or something like that but that is not the norm.

>>11688386
There was a bird epidemic a year or two ago. It wasn't luxury but eggs got up to $5 a carton and people were pissed about Thanksgiving turkeys being too expensive. Who does your shopping?

>>11688383
Maybe you shouldn't be an autistic faggot looking for things to argue about when you quite clearly understand the point I'm making. Comes off as you just looking to argue just for the sake of arguing. Fag.

>>11688397
What if bread doubles in price at every store due to a new type of mold that destroys wheat crops? People will have no "other store" to go to.

Also you realize that toys have the same effect of "buy it somewhere else" too--some stores price toys higher than others. BBTS upcharges. Amazon waits a bit then jacks the price up on everything. Gamestop is schizo and sometimes has higher than standard pricing and sometimes doesn't.

>>11688409
All you had to do was say 'tends to' instead of 'always'. But you couldn't do that.

>>11688397
Have you not been to a grocery store in the past two years? Prices have skyrocketed EVERYWHERE so even if people go to another store, they still have to pay that higher price. Scarcity has less to do with this than you think.

>>11688049
beggars can't be choosers

>>11688103
Yeah, I didn't realise there weren't any supes left. Other than black suit version.
I have noticed the Hush Batman get a number of releases so I'll hold on for the next superman.

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>>11688417
Why not just beg and then not buy if the company doesn't do it right? Like this. I begged for Smilin Supes, but I didn't buy this thing because it is not the right kind of smile.

>>11688410
>What if bread doubles in price at every store due to a new type of mold that destroys wheat crops? People will have no "other store" to go to.
It's too bad wheat is the only grain that exists and people can't make bread. Did you not experience Covid? How many people can make an action figure?

>some stores price toys higher than others.
Until they run out of stock and it's upcharged on the secondary market. Toy companies do not continually rerelease the exact SAME Cyclops or whatever over and over again.

>>11688423
Your response to the first quote can be used to respond to your second quote, you realize?

If wheat is unavailable, people can eat cornbread you say.

Well:
If one look of Cyclops is unavailable, people can buy a different look of Cyclops I say.

Either way someone is not getting exactly what they want, only a substitute.

"But collectors are autistic", you say, "it MUST be this look of Cyclops so I must pay $200 on ebay for it", whereas with bread, people will just eat the cornbread.

That is the problem. Autism. Accept the weird looking cheap Cyclops. Down with Jim Lee Cyclops. Down with the oppression of high toy prices. Buy AOA Cyclops, comrade, and join us with the proletariat.

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>>11688422
FAT HANDS

>>11688430
Does any company do elbows worse than McFarlane Toys?

>>11688412
I don't think YOU understand how much scarcity is involved with food. Food prices start rising before groceries even exist. It just plain got more expensive to make food. Tractors run on fuel, factories use electricity and gas, trucks and ships and planes move food constantly. After Covid you had fewer workers in farming, processing, trucking, retail, so wages had to rise to keep workers. Also, climate change. When harvests shrink, prices rise.

>>11688412
>Scarcity has less to do with this than you think.
You're an idiot.

>spends a fucking hour on OP
I just knew you MFers couldn't even go half the morning without this thread denigrating into a shit-show.

>>11688428
>If one look of Cyclops is unavailable, people can buy a different look of Cyclops
nta how many "collectors" will actually do this though?

>>11688448
Read the rest of the post. Most will not and I know that, because they have autism. But more collectors SHOULD do this instead of paying scalpers 5x MSRP

>>11688428
Collectors want ALL the Cyclops though.

>>11688450
That isn't largely the case. Most collectors don't buy every version of a character. Some do to be sure but they are the minority. Most just want the versions they were well acquainted with.

>>11688450
This. Collectors are greedy bastards that buy all the bread on the shelves so there's none left for anyone else.

>>11688453
That's scalpers, not collectors. Though there is more overlap than people would like to believe.

>>11688411
Ok, now you really are coming off as looking to argue for the sake of arguing. Fuck off retard.

>>11688445
It took you an actual hour to do the OP? Are you handicapped?

>>11688459
not him but believe it or not research and collating of a wide variety of information by an actual human takes time. like i couldnt do what high effort OP does because I just don't give a fuck about most of the lines he has researched releases for in the OP. I only care about Mafex, McFarlane and Yamaguchi. And not even about the specific recent Mafex releases as they're all either re-releases or weird choices or flawed. I assume he doesn't follow every single DC line. so he has actually go out and look up this info. and maybe he knows off hand like 3-4 of the brands and their recent releases from memory

>>11688466
I mean, I'm the OP of the Marvel thread, and I keep the OP updated, including multiple lines, I even include pre-order dates and other info. It doesn't take an hour to update the Marvel OP, even when there's a bunch of new reveals. Blows my mind that it would take an hour to gather this info, I assumed most of that time went into photoshopping the image.

>>11688470
not sure then, maybe high effort op doesn't have a set method down that leads to greater efficiency. when someone has been doing something for longer they get faster at it, while he has not done dozens of DC OPs.

>>11688433
Does any company do anything as badly as McFarlane Toys?

>>11688485
Super 7 is usually worse. NECA tends to have worse articulation (somehow). Hasbro and Mattel are occasionally worse (Black Series reverting articulation to single jointed elbows and knees; Masterverse reverting females to single jointed elbows and some headsculpts being botched) and often better (any figure where McFarlane Toys fucked up which is a lot).

>>11688217
>thigh cuts
You never realize how vital these actually are until you collect a crappy line that doesn’t have them at all.

>>11688504
NECA's articulation is pretty damn good, don't know what you're even talking about.

>>11688570
nta Do they still do poor ankles?

>>11688570
>NECA's articulation is pretty damn good
Only if you're buying predator figures.

>don't know what you're even talking about.
I dunno, this for example?

https://youtu.be/13kDeXtgUJ4&t=319

>>11688598
So you're a fucking retard. Okie dokie.
Also posting Anthony shit? Go fuck yourself.

>>11688598
Nothing's bad about that articulation scheme? Why even post that?

>>11688608
I love how they have no rebuttal to video proof. Here, have another https://youtu.be/fPqdparnR2E&t=402

>>11688612
It has horrible range and not even double joints, dude, if you think that's fine then Todd's stactions in the 90s were fine for you I guess.

>>11688618
It doesn't need double joints. And nothing is wrong with the range either. You are actually a dumb asshole.

And again, nothing wrong with the Ronin figure. You should really just stop posting.

>>11688623
Every collector figure needs double joints, thigh cuts, ankle rockets and torso articulation. They should be at least as good as a Marvel Legend and typically better. You're the reason why companies can shit out turds and still stay in business. Your standards are so low you'd pick toys out of a trash can.

>>11688627
>Every collector figure needs double joints
No they don't. You have brain rot and really need to go touch grass.

>>11688630
>Please give me worse figures for no reason
That is what you will get then.

>>11688631
If it makes you upset then bring it on. Keep seething.

>>11688459
Go away, Jarred.
Don't threaten to leave, then NOT LEAVE.

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McFarlane may be a hot mess but every so often they put out something good. Thank my lucky stars, all of the Morrison Batman figures have been pretty good when it comes to sculpt and QC.

>>11688768
I'm not Jarret. I'm the OP of the Marvel thread and it just shocked me that it takes an hour for him to make the OP when it at most takes me 10 min if there are a heavy amount of updates.

>>11688778
No wire is pretty bad. Drapes wrong,

>>11688860
Dumbass

>>11688860
Both have wire .

10 back and forth about articulation, a quickly derailed 5 post about whose slop is worse, 4 pig-tail pulls, 1 actual toy picture: last 4 hours

I blame Heath Ledger.

Without him, this would be happening on a Star Wars or Transformers thread.

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>>11688929
>1 actual toy picture: last 4 hours
And you contribute nothing.

I'm still waiting for Starman Jack and Ice. I moved the villains into another shelf with all my Watchmen and Kingdom Come figures. Right now I'm painting some Helghast I printed for either Spectre Operations or 40k but I'll probably put Fire, Ice, and Zatanna in that bottom left corner. The Star Trek holodeck is cool but doesn't fit the theme and Nacelle is taking forever to come out with their figures, so I might make a dedicated Trek shelf and move everything there, and bump Power Girl, Huntress, and Question up to the middle, and put all the Starman stuff where they are now. Oh and I need to finish the Gotham shelf diorama, but I don't really give a shit about Batman and he's only that high out of respect.

I'd be open to picking up a Green Arrow, maybe that Injustice one.

>>11688947
We get it. You lied and didn't leave. Fuck.

>>11688947
>multiple blonde power girls
>no black characters
>plays as space Nazis in 40k

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>>11688947
>>11689086
>>11688792

>>11689105
I'm not Jarret you stupid fuck. I already told you that I'm the Marvel OP. Holy shit.

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I swear, it's like you guys don't even actually like toys.

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This is the kids line. Honestly, it's looking pretty good tbqh.

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So what do you think /DCG/?

>>11689237
>>11689240
>>11689241
This looks like Spinmaster slop. I'm suddenly missing Todd.

>>11689256
It's supposed to be, this isn't the collectors line.

Full reveal

https://toynewsi.com/241-61551

>>11689240
Already looking better than McFartlane's.

>>11689237
>>11689240
>>11689241
BASED KIDS LINE

>>11689270
They have 0 torso articulation, so no.

>>11689273
Yeah it's pretty pathetic.
>cheaper kid's line
>limited articulation
Yet they still look better than McFarlanes.

>>11689274
This unironically. All the faces are better than any of mcfarlanes too lol

If you want a sneak peek at what the collectors line will look like direct your attention to the live action He-man figures revealed today as well

>>11689240
Basically look like the Mattel DC Multiverse stuff, sans a couple of poa. Probably look at the MotU movie stuff for a glimpse of what to expect from the collectors range.

>>11689288
Beat me like a rented mule, lol
>>11689311

>>11689241
I mean, they look like Mattel figures..kind of bland. that lineup is about as safe as it gets. meh
>WWE figs are the absolute best. They're the standard to meet
God help us all

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The collector's line will be great.

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>>11689389

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>>11689288
These abominations are what you want your DC figures to look like?

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>>11689389
Looks like more scalper bait given what's on the box. Mattel probably learned from Todd how to make sure every unit sells out so there are no pegwarmers to make their real customers--retail--mad.

>>11689395
Better than all Todd Supermen

>>11689389
>MAA is a lunchtime rowdy now
why do they do this
is there a single instance, like even one, of a black character turned white in one of these modern adaptations

>>11689400
Well, as a motu guy I can tell you that mattel has had to bend over a few times due to backlash over low production runs. So I doubt that they would bother with the McFarlane straight to scalpers sales model. It's rare that a Wwe figure is impossible to find for example.

>>11689404
Not Silver Age. These don't have wired capes.

>>11689400
They always put that disclaimer on things. Why are you being such a drama queen?

>>11689414
I've never seen that on any Marvel Legends or McFarlane box

>>11689395
>>11689391
>>11689389
These are 5.5in judging by scaling with humans in the wide shot images and the rumors around the Chronicles name before these reveals which confirm the Chronicles name. That means they will not work with Marvel Legends. Mattel is taking things in a smaller direction, knowing that 6in and 7in tooling requires too much steel and is thus too big for customer's wallets today.

Btw these will still likely cost in the $30s or more though just judging by the articulation and paint.

Smaller is better though, as space is a huge concern for many collectors. These may scale somewhat with some imports. Just not Hasbro or McFarlane.

>>11689416
There's always a "subject to availability" disclaimer, if not on the box, on a website or solicitation or whatever. Stop making moutains out of molehills you big fucking baby.

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>>11689409
I don’t know what you’re talking about.

>company makes toys for children
>adults start reee about how they look like kids toys

>>11689278
The pictures are too far off or blurry to judge anything about the faces. Zatanna looked fine in the reveals but with detailed pics we can see she has huge manjaw syndrome on the regular release.

>>11689441
Look at Power Rangers gen. They're stuck buying only toys aimed at kids now because the IP collapsed since Hasbro screwed up LC so bad.

>>11689445
So?
Mattel has an adult line coming and a fuck tone of imports coming.

>>11689454
Yes, I am just noting that adults will reee about toys for kids. I actually see these being posted on twitter and people going crazy because they don't have torso articulation and such--without any mention this is the kids line, not the collector line. So this is actually a bad marketing move by Mattel. They definitely should've revealed both lines at the same time, as now we're going to have months of people misunderstanding and thinking these are Mattel's only offerings. Bad move there.

>>11689464
Their hands are tied legally because of Todd. They can’t reveal their collector line until sdcc. Adult collectors bitching online isn’t a real problem because it will not affect a cheap kids line on shelves.

>>11689470
Todd's line was supposed to end in June. What happened? From what I can figure DC extended Todd's contract because Mattel couldn't have collector product out in time. If they had been able to they wouldn't have this bad marketing situation.

>>11688947
Nice display, anon

>>11689475
Todd had too many figures in the pipeline so they had to give him an extension since they were already in production. Mattel would be revealing their collector line along with the kids line were it not for that.

>>11689482
Do you have a source for that, because that doesn't make sense. The licensor doesn't bend to the licensee, it's the other way around. The licensor holds all the power and if the license ends in June but the licensee still has figures beyond there in production they basically have to pound salt.

>>11689441
It's because these are supposed to be 6 inch, and Mattel was supposed to be better, but these have a Spinmaster quality to them.

>>11689487
Todd has friends at WB. It’s why he even got the line to begin with.

>>11689495
Strange how those friends couldn't prevent him from losing the license to Mattel.

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>>11689237
>>11689389
>>11689391
>>11689395
Apparently the adult DC line for 2027 will be 6.5 to go with Marvel Legends so it seems Mattel is doing this scale for other lines too.

So say goodbye to Masterverse scale. The MotU chronicles line is 6.5

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>>11689512
5.5 per those who leaked the Chronicles name

>>11689505
Todd and spin master couldn’t offer what WB needed. This is an organized multimedia marketing strategy and mass market retail toys on shelves is part of that.

>>11689512
>the leaker was right about fucking everything
lol

>>11689516
And now WB/DC just fucked up Mattel's "organized multimedia marketing strategy" by having everyone's first impression of Mattel's line being the crappy kids line.

>>11689515
5.5 is based

>>11689237
>>11689240
Looks extremely basic but if it's "only" the kids line, it's actually pretty good. The line for collectors definitely needs proper articulation and more accessories to even be considered by fans given how imports are dominating at the moment. Looks-wise, the figures look pretty amazing. Hell, they could have just released these with better torso articulation & butterfly joints and sold them as the collector's line

>>11689274
I won't be switching to Mattel because I have my JL team complete but they definitely look way better in terms of proportions, it's actually laughable because it's only the kids line

>>11689416
This is standard practice. You must be new to collecting

>>11689505
Had he listened to his friends and fans, he would still have the line for years to come

>>11689520
>>11689512

The leaker said 5.5in, not 6.5in

>>11689064
Stop larping and sockpuppy posting, Valley/Jared/Jarrett. At least be more imaginative and don't have someone say the SAME EXACT three-word sentence.
Don't you have enough karma now at Reddit to start your own sub?

>>11689523
>by having everyone's first impression of Mattel's line being the crappy kids line.
Why are you rambling like an idiot who doesn't understand that parents buying toys for their kids is way more lucrative for a company than first and foremost catering to some idiotic nerds who always complain online?

You may not like it but it's the best move to reveal the line for kids first and release it because they can make a lot more money by selling the figures to kids first. I don't even like Mattel but I can still understand the business move behind it

>>11689528
You're just speculating at what WB/DC was telling him. No McFarlane fan wanted Marvel Legends 2.0. They wanted high detail cool looking figures, which is what he delivered for 2.5 years.

>>11689523
No it will not have any impact. The kids line will be on shelves and will sell regardless of adults with no lives complaining online. The collector line will be revealed at sdcc after the kids line is already in stores by then even the dumbest fuck will understand what is going on.

>>11689535
No, it's best to reveal both lines at once. That way the collectors don't go on twitter bashing Mattel. Parents don't pay attention to toy marketing anyway.

>>11689537
Ever heard anything about first impressions?

>>11689534
It's really weird how you keep accusing me of being the guy I shit talk.

>>11689539
>Ever heard anything about first impressions
Americans sure are fucking retarded

>>11689539
Yeah and you’ll get first impressions of an adult focused collectors line at sdcc. Knee jerk reactions to the kids line are irrelevant because adults aren’t the market.

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>I want Mcfarlane to lose the DC license to Mattel

>>11689550
It's fucking embarrassing to enjoy toys when people react so violently to a toy line not meant for their refined and sophisticated tastes.
It's fucking toys, it's fun shit. Like it or don't, you won't buy them either way.

>>11689430
i legitimately believe this like kabala number magic bullshit at this point. G***** always becomes N***** without fail, there's something to it.

>>11689515
>>11689520
>>11689531
I think they were considering 5.5 at one point but decided to stick with 6.5. We do not know how outdated the leak info is, they for sure made changes from conception to production. Maybe they decided to move to 6.5 after they got the DC license locked since when they announced the DC license coming back they were working on movie line for motu.

>>11689550
Their first impression of new Mattel DC figures are these, the collector line will be a second impression. You're excusing a bad marketing roll out for who knows what reason. This isn't good for Mattel and McFarlane has already lost. So I don't get the angle you're on here.

>>11689268
So when John Stewart peg warms and Ollie's are also choking with figs they can't release, will DC Gen finally admit it's racists?

>>11689536
>No McFarlane fan wanted Marvel Legends 2.0
You must have literally never visited the threads when the line was announced and during the first few waves. That's exactly what people wanted, especially since every single one of the first waves was utter dogshit

>They wanted high detail cool looking figures, which is what he delivered for 2.5 years.
Yet you fail to address that highly detailed figures were only one of the things fans wished for. Meanwhile, he never truly delivered on the articulation and accessory part of what fans truly wanted. It was a subpar line to say the very least

>>11689539
>That way the collectors don't go on twitter bashing Mattel
>Parents don't pay attention to toy marketing anyway
So it doesn't really matter that collectors are bashing Mattel when parents don't pay attention to marketing. I honestly don't even get the complaints because the figures look perfectly fine apart from the missing articulation points. If that is the only thing people can bitch about, then Mattel is definitely doing something right

>>11689564
>You must have literally never visited the threads when the line was announced and during the first few waves. That's exactly what people wanted, especially since every single one of the first waves was utter dogshit
Those people weren't McFarlane fans. They were Hasbro tourists who wanted to get into DC.

>Yet you fail to address that highly detailed figures were only one of the things fans wished for. Meanwhile, he never truly delivered on the articulation and accessory part of what fans truly wanted.
McFarlane has never been about articulation. If you were a McFarlane fan you'd know that. And no I didn't want a thousand extra hands I'll never use to clog my drawers either.

>>11689564
>the figures look perfectly fine apart from the missing articulation points.

That is the whole fucking point, anon. That is why collectors on twitter are bashing the figures. I see walls of "no ab crunch?" posts.

They needed to reveal both at the same time so brain dead collectors know to ignore this line and only look at the collector line. As it is they think this is the collector line.

>>11689568
>everyone is smiling
BASED

>>11689568
These are fucking amazing for kids toys. Apart from Flash looking off, even the face sculpts are great

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Mattel Kpop Demon Hunters figures will be 6.5 too so I guess this is across all lines

>>11689575
Now they'll all look like psychos smiling maniacally while they punch people

>>11689562
More collectors are probably familiar with Jon Stewart than Hal Jordan due to him being in the DCAU Justice League.

>>11689569
>Hasbro tourists who wanted to get into DC
Bitch, you act like my only exposure to DC is toys. I probably have more DC knowledge than you do.

>>11689576
My only “complaint” is that the bodies aren’t blank. Seems like a retarded decision especially from Mattel of all companies.

>>11689584
That's why you're not a McFarlane fan, you're a DC fan. You wanted that blue underwear look for Batman so bad.

>>11689569
>Those people weren't McFarlane fans. They were Hasbro tourists who wanted to get into DC.
Now you're just moving the goalposts, aren't you?
It's like you're completely ignoring the fact that people can like both and that people legit collected Mattel's earlier lines including DC Icons and Essentials while buying Marvel Legends back in the day

>McFarlane has never been about articulation
And that's why even diehard fans hated many McFarlane figures. What exactly is your argument, that just because Todd himself didn't put the focus on articulation, fans shouldn't have cared about it? As I said earlier, not listening to fans led to him losing the line in the first place
>And no I didn't want a thousand extra hands I'll never use to clog my drawers either.
Loving how you are completely ignoring the fact that you're in the complete minority with that opinion

>>11689574
So what? Nerds will complain no matter what, fuck them. I get looking for a conversation on here or Reddit, but going on Twitter to "bash" the figures is so pathetic that it's amusing

>>11689586
What do you mean with blank? I would say Superman, Flash, and GL look more or less like blank bodies

>>11689586
>Asking for less scupted detail
Toy collectors really are self hating aren't they? You should be asking for unique sculpts for every figure, immaculate paint apps, exact proper scaling for every character, import tier articulation, and all for $19.99.

>>11689589
>You're not a McFarlane fan if you have only been a fan of the franchise the company is using
So what, a company isn't supposed to convince people to buy their figures? Todd wasn't supposed to cater to fans but only his own ideas? What kind of retarded backwards logic is that even?

>>11689592
>What do you mean with blank? I would say Superman, Flash, and GL look more or less like blank bodies
Look closer
>>11689593
It’s a kids line it just doesn’t make sense to not treat it like MotU in terms of modularity.

>>11689595
Maybe I'm not necessarily acquainted with the term blank body but I always thought sculpted boots and belts still count as add-ons to a blank buck

>>11689592
>It's like you're completely ignoring the fact that people can like both and that people legit collected Mattel's earlier lines including DC Icons and Essentials while buying Marvel Legends back in the day
But did you religiously buy Spawn figures? That's the real question. I don't give a shit if you bought Mattel or Hasbro slop.

>And that's why even diehard fans hated many McFarlane figures.
Diehard fans hated McFarlane figures? Then how did McFarlane Toys survive for as long as it has? Why did people buy figures they hated?

>What exactly is your argument, that just because Todd himself didn't put the focus on articulation, fans shouldn't have cared about it?
My argument is don't expect good articulation from McFarlane because you're only going to be disappointed if you do.

>>11689592
>Loving how you are completely ignoring the fact that you're in the complete minority with that opinion
Of course McFarlane fans are in the minority, because it's a small toy company with a very limited audience. It's not Hasbro or Mattel.

>>11689594
>So what, a company isn't supposed to convince people to buy their figures?
McFarlane tried, but you wanted Marvel Legends, or DC Classics, not McFarlanes. So McFarlanes now became Marvel Legends. Enjoy your Blue Beetle buck.

>Todd wasn't supposed to cater to fans but only his own ideas?
Todd catered to McFarlane fans, not Hasbro or Mattel fans. Until 2.5 years into the line when he passed it off to Jason.

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As of January 27 2026, Mcfarlane has made more Wonder Woman figures than Mattel

>>11689606
Funny if true

>>11689592
Mattel did not make Icons or Essentials, that was DC collectibles ( formerly Direct)

>>11689601
>But did you religiously buy Spawn figures? That's the real question
No, why should I have done that? By the way, maybe I should clarify that lots of people, myself included, went in not necessarily liking the figures but having a lot of hope the figures would improve through fans being vocal with objective criticism (no bitching)

>Then how did McFarlane Toys survive for as long as it has? Why did people buy figures they hated?
Is that a genuine question on THIS board? Many people are extremely addicted to collecting to a point where they will buy any figure as long as it represents their favourite characters. I've seen so much bitching about figures people here have bought, it's legit insane. I for one bought around 10 figures and while I liked them, unfortunately I also had a lot of criticism for at least half of them

>Of course McFarlane fans are in the minority
I mean you're in the minority that even true McFarlane fans wouldn't prefer proper articulation as well as tons of accessories for the same amount of money. I've never heard someone say that they prefer having less accessories before

>McFarlane tried, but you wanted Marvel Legends, or DC Classics, not McFarlanes
Let's be real, people wanted the same figures but only with better articulation and more accessories. That's not too much to ask when even Jada managed to hire people who can do a solid job with their Street Fighter line. It's just that Todd didn't care enough about his customers

>So McFarlanes now became Marvel Legends
No, they didn't. Hasbro, as shitty as it is, at least has better articulation. People would have had zero issues with the Blue Beetle buck if it had been legit great

>Todd catered to McFarlane fans, not Hasbro or Mattel fans
And that's how you lose a license, yes

Twitter really is hilarious right now. You should look at the response to the Mattel line by people who do not realize this is the kids line.

Here are some selections:

>Yikes. Looks like the art they slap on a Mac N Cheese box

>no ab articulation sad

>well i dont know, i dont see me investing as much money as mcfarlanes... there are not a great evolution desu

>Not a fan. They look kinda generic and basic, Id love to be proven wrong though

>Yikes these look like bootleg figures compared to McFarlane

>>11689621
Toyfags are low IQ

>>11689576
Are those Sonic the hedgehog DC guys “fucking amazing”, too?

>>11689620
>No, why should I have done that?
There you go, you're not a McFarlane fan.

>Is that a genuine question on THIS board? Many people are extremely addicted to collecting to a point where they will buy any figure as long as it represents their favourite characters. I've seen so much bitching about figures people here have bought, it's legit insane. I for one bought around 10 figures and while I liked them, unfortunately I also had a lot of criticism for at least half of them

I don't get that mental illness. If I don't like the looks of a figure I don't buy it. I have the type of mental illness where if the toy isn't cool I can't buy it rather than the type of mental illness where I have to buy it because it completes a team or just because I like the character.

>I mean you're in the minority that even true McFarlane fans wouldn't prefer proper articulation as well as tons of accessories for the same amount of money.

I said don't expect good articulation from McFarlane. It would be nice to have, but it won't happen. But genuinely I'd prefer a cheaper figure with say 2 accessories that aren't hands to a more expensive one with 8 hands. Which is what McFarlane started with

>Let's be real, people wanted the same figures but only with better articulation and more accessories.
They expected the wrong thing from McFarlane and were disappointed.

>No, they didn't. Hasbro, as shitty as it is, at least has better articulation.

No dispute there, but McFarlanes now have little paint and are reusing parts like crazy, i.e. Marvel Legends. That is what I am talking about.

>People would have had zero issues with the Blue Beetle buck if it had been legit great
I would've if it didn't look any different and just articulated well. It's a boring blank buck.

>And that's how you lose a license, yes
They don't call you the "wider audience" for nothing. Todd thought he could get collectors to like cool figures, but he didn't realize that isn't what most collectors want.

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>>11689640
>reusing parts like crazy
The fact that the never really had a blank buck is crazy to me.

>>11689642
True 6in would've been better. I'm tired of these oversized domestic lines.

>>11689589
You say that like it's a bad thing. Sorry anon but I'm not beholden to any toy company. If they don't make something I like, I'm not giving them my money. Simple as. I don't like McFigs so I don't collect them. I am a fan of DC so I'll collect other lines that make better figures.

>>11689659
Not saying it like it's a bad thing, but going into McFarlane Toys and expecting things they don't typically deliver doesn't make sense. Best thing you can do is what you did, not buy the line.

>>11689621
People unironically posting on Twitter and Insta posts are fucking retarded to begin with since most people are unable to provide proper criticism (not saying there is non though)

>>11689629
This as well

>>11689630
Saw those in Smyths the other day. Decent for a kids line but the faces are really bad and I didn't like the sculpts at all

>>11689640
>There you go, you're not a McFarlane fan.
When did I say I was a McFarlane fan?

>I don't get that mental illness
You seem to not be grasping a lot of things, that doesn't make them objectively false though. I mean look at how many Marvel and DC fans are shitting on the movies, it's the same type of deal

>It would be nice to have, but it won't happen
Extremely weak and pathetic way of looking at issues in everyday life if you ask me. If I see something I don't like, I offer my objective criticism. It's not crazy to expect companies to listen to their fans in times where Jada, Hasbro, and even goddamn CT Toys are doing it (Hasbro being the one with the worst implementation)

>McFarlanes now have little paint and are reusing parts like crazy, i.e. Marvel Legends
Sure, more paint would be great but for classic figures, generic bucks aren't the worst choice, only for more modern looks. Hell, my Dr. Fate and Silver Age Superman having standard bucks is even better than putting some stupid patterns on them

>It's a boring blank buck
It's a cost saving measure which I can understand. Not great articulation, especially not having proper upper torso articulation in 99% of the figures, is the actual crime

>but he didn't realize that isn't what most collectors want.
That was my initial point. For every good idea or opinion he had, he lacked the basic skill of just looking at fan opinions to legit improve figures. Things like female figures not selling well may be objective facts despite WW and Powergirl selling well but then again, he always resisted to implement genuinely great fan ideas

>>11689240
These look like happy meal toys compared to >>11688947

>>11689682
can happy meal toys do that retarded pose he always has tranny WW in

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>>11689621
Kids line isn't an excuse, this was what Mattel had as a kids line over 20 years ago.

>>11689667
>When did I say I was a McFarlane fan?
You didn't explicitly. But there were posts (not sure if they were you) saying stuff like "Had he listened to his friends and fans, he would still have the line for years to come"

Which kind of implies it was partly his fans saying they wanted great articulation or other changes. When if McFarlane fans had been saying that, either he would be out of the figure business long before 2020--or his figures would've already had great articulation years ago as a concession to his fans.

Instead, what was happening was fans of DC popping in saying they want specific things like better articulation in 2020 when they found Todd got the DC license. I'm just delineating that McFarlane fans know to expect different things from McFarlane than DC fans or Marvel Legends fans did.

>Extremely weak and pathetic way of looking at issues in everyday life if you ask me.

If I walk into an art restoration studio and ask them to fix my TV, do you think they can do it? That is what DC fans did when they asked McFarlane for great articulation in 2020. I'm accepting the category of toy maker McFarlane is. McFarlane Toys was generally made up of people focused on the art end of figure making. Not engineers focused on the engineering aspects of figure making. Which is why their engineering is poor.

>It's a cost saving measure which I can understand. Not great articulation, especially not having proper upper torso articulation in 99% of the figures, is the actual crime

Not having great articulation can also be a cost saving measure. Better designers tend to want higher salaries. Whether that is a choice McFarlane ever made though, we can't tell. I've taken apart some figures due to customizing and I don't think the core internals of DCMV figures have changed much since 2020 though. Changing that midstream would've been difficult, so he probably just elected not to do it. Those internals are why most can't lean forward well.

>>11689667

>For every good idea or opinion he had, he lacked the basic skill of just looking at fan opinions to legit improve figures.

Ironically he did listen on some minor things like BAFs instead of that silly build-a-batmobile idea early on, nixing side eye, nixing card stands in CEs for more accessories. But on the fundamental things, he can't budge, just like larger companies. All this platinum and red platinum garbage McFarlane Toys are putting out now must be fundamental as well since I don't think anyone likes that they can't just order whatever deco they want except scalpers and retailers.

>>11689699
It's almost like costs went up and they need to cut somewhere to make them more affordable.

>>11689699
Probably about the same POA in that figure as in the new Mattel ones since the new ones have double jointed knees and waist twists.

Bitch and moan all you like retards this kids line will sell like hotcakes.

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>>11689714
except these kids toys will still probably be like $15, and I get lacking paint washes, but nicer sculpting isn't going to cost more
One thing I'll give them, the articulation is decent for what it is. That took Mattel a while the first time around. Sculpts lack any sort of life though.

>>11689727
I doubt it since we all know kids don't buy action figures anymore. Yes they buy toys, but not action figures.

>>11689729
What toys if not action figures?

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>>11689568
these have about the same level of finish as Masterverse. These might be the "kids line" but you're deluded if you think the collector's line is going to be much better. It's mattel. They have a cap to what they'll actually produce.

>>11689729
Because they’re too expensive which these won’t be.

>>11689727
Just needs a decent media tie in to get their attention.

>>11689738
See you at sdcc retard.

>>11689729
It's not so much that kids don't want toys, it's that kids don't want cheap crap and unfortunately it's not like parents are gonna buy Mafex or higher end toys for kids.
every single "adult" youtube toy reviewer has comments full of kids. Now they have that as a point of comparison to what they see on store shelves. They want the more expensive stuff that looks good that they'll likely never get, not cheap shit because it looks like it's for babies and kids don't like getting baby toys.

>>11689732
You're kidding my, right? The action figures just take up like one aisle in the toy section.

>>11689740
Legos still sell and those are firmly "too expensive"

>>11689738
Those are solid figures you posted

>>11689747
Lego is an adult company and has been for years now

>>11689738
Masterverse have satin and matte finishes, so I'm not sure what's wrong with that. They aren't disgustingly glossy like Marvel Legends usually are

>>11689750
Stats on audience of legos in 2025?

>>11689755
$1k Death Star

>>11689409
>lunchtime rowdy
you are way too old to be caring about shit like this lmao.

>>11689767
Stats, not a single release

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>>11689773
Was Zodac not always black?

>>11689790
Yes, he has always been a cosmic enforcer.

>>11689790
Space tan

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>>11689409
>>11689768
In most cases it's going to be side characters in things, especially book adaptations where there's less of a set visual.
Sunspot from Marvel's X-men, for example, was adapted twice as a more lightskinned hispanic character when his background makes heavy use of him specifically being mixed African-Brazilian and white. Granted he's also been colored lighter in the comics since the 80's too.

>>11689568
What the fuck is that bat symbol? Looks like I will quit collecting after McFarlane's run ends

>>11689814
Man I can’t tell if this is b8 anymore but it’s the fucking kids line. Mattel’s collectors line doesn’t come out until January of NEXT YEAR and won’t be revealed until comic con

>>11689814
Yet another proof that Mattel is botching their chance with the marketing. For one thing, you don't reveal something this big at some German toy convention by letting blurry photos leak. You do it in the US or China and you get out ahead of it by putting out high detail images of all figures.

>>11689768
>Harvey Dent
just because Billy Dee was him for like five minutes of screen time doesn’t make it a whitewash
>>11689771
I’m not the one talking out both sides of his mouth about how “representation matters” the way people behind shit like this >>11689430 do

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>Nuremberg Toy Fair is underway and brings us the new Mattel DC Core figures reveal. These 6.5” figs, scaled to live with your favorite lines, are kid focused with collector appeal. Collector figs are on the way in Jan ‘27 with a first look at those closer to release. Stay tuned!
Via toynewsi

>>11689832
I don't see any collector appeal

>>11689836
Fuck off jarret

>>11689821
I have no idea what that is dude I'm just laughing at the boomer slur no one recognizes anymore.

>>11689832
Why do you think they chose such a low profile toy show to reveal this at?

>>11689846
It’s a trade show for retailers. I swear /toy/ gets dumber every fucking year

>>11689855
for european retailers. thus low profile.

>>11689843
>he doesn’t know about the list
Fuck off, moron.

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>>11689840
This is the kid's line. Think how WWE does their Basic series for kids and Elite/Ultimate figures for adult collectors.

The kids line is figure plus 1 accessory. Combination of fabric caps and plastic depending on character. No swappable or removable parts.

>>11689906
Price range?

>>11689709
>nixing side eye, nixing card stands in CEs for more accessories.
NTA but just these two alone took FUCKING forever to fix.

>>11689630
I agree with >>11689667
>but the faces are really bad
that the Superman face sculpt could be better. The John Stewart, on the other hand, looks fine, better than some we got from Mattel and even a few of the DC Direct. I honestly haven't seen any of Todd's in hand, or even in the box up-close, so won't comment.

I haven't picked up or seen the Wonder Woman in person so can't talk about the only other unmasked head so far. But the rest look like any other fucking cowled Batman, Flash, etc. Cyborg looks good and articulates really well. I haven't opened the Flash up yet, but the articulation on the Superman was really good. The sculpts are also fine, especially on Cyborg.

Do I wish they were bigger? Sure. I also only paid $13.99 for half of these. I do think $19 is too much but they were a two pack. If Mattel charges as much for a single figure without accessories, people would (and should) bitch.

>>11689911
No clear answer yet but previously it was said to be between $12-$20 max. Personal I'd be surprised if they were more than $15 max

>>11689920
The kpop demon hunters figures (not dolls) and they are 6.5 , they are $21.59

>>11689899
Even the basic figures are solid for $12. I only have two or three basic figures but I never felt ripped off after opening them.

>>11689899
They both look like the same shit just different packaging and one has more accessories.
I'm not familiar with WWE figs, how much is the kids toy and how much is the collector toy?

>>11689939
And they come with swappable parts and multiple accessories

>>11689984
Exactly so the dc figures that only have 1 accessory and nothing else should be cheaper than the $21 kpop figures

>>11688947
>all those shitty poses
>except for the tranny Zatanna

>>11689555
No one has ever said this

Can't wait for McFarlane to gtfo lololol. Fuck ass lame company overly obsessed with stupid batman and have to wait till they lose the license to release female figures while crying like a lil bitch.

Oh, and the figures look like shit as well even though their articulations are shittier.

Not to mention the scummy practice of recycling shit figures but covered in gold paint and pretend they're some sort of premium shit.

All of this and they're still not in scale with other figures because their retarded brain thought 1/10 is more popular than 1/12.

Fuck you, Todd. I hope you go bankrupt.

>>11690016
>Reddit spacing

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>>11690000
Call her by her true name: Zatrannia.

Sadly by the look of the motu movie figures I can already tell mcfarlane was the last chance DC had for true collectibles. But they already botched their chance long ago. We're just in a time line headed for nothing

>>11688947
>claim to not like Batman
>have a shelf dedicated to him

>>11688947
it’s crazy to me that someone can spend so much time and money and effort on figures like this and be sooo bad at posing them.

>>11690081
Theyre mcfarlanes, everyone is bad at posing them, its a side effect of the figure design

>>11690034
You are aware that other companies produce DC collectibles in a variety of forms, even action figures, that are available for purchase and enjoyment. Heck, there's 60+ years of DC licensed amusement items out there just waiting to be enjoyed by (You) all you have to do is look beyond your relationship with DC Multiverse figures produced by McFarlane Toys and very likely the official DC General itself.
#VNR

>>11690034
Import companies make DC figures too. Stop being such an overly dramatic homosexual.

>>11690120
>>11690129
You guys know the drill on this by now. No one but a domestic company will produce the character breadth that people want.

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Holy shit, it actually looks good

>>11690155
holy shit. better take manjaw to ebay

>>11690155
its AI you boomer

>>11690155
I can't believe you fell for this, dude. Look at the ankles, or her right leg, or her waist.

>>11690150
Sure, but that doesn't discredit the fact that other companies also make DC toys.

>>11690182
just telling you why their offerings dont really work as a consistently discussed line and thus why we in these threads tend to just focus on domestics

>>11689568
Superman needs work but might be cool

>>11690034
What mental illness do you have that makes think about trannies 24/7?

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>>11690226
>>11689568
If it's in the $10-15 or so range, I would pick up this Superman and maybe the Flash. I think I own no Deathstroke so we can keep it that way and I own no Joe Kerr except by accident. I like the way the blue and gray batman looks but in the same way I think there's one, maybe two Hero's United Rebirth Supes somewhere in a box in the closet, that's about that.

I only own some of the "kid" Superman movie figures because of the Gary BAF but they are fine for $6-9 figure which is what I paid for most of them. I donated all but one of the Corensupes for the first BAF I built but the most recent one, I might keep a few.

>>11690204
Their offerings work just fine. You just don't get the character selection. That doesn't mean the whole line is trash. Shut up you fat retard. I'm sick of you.

>>11690269
No one said the figures are bad. They just don't do what most collectors want, which is breadth of character selection.

>>11690274
Actually, from this thread, they do just fine. The vast majority of you don't even know characters beyond Batman and Superman so I don't see what the fuss is.

>>11690288
Given how we slobber over every female figure and hype Power Girl and Zatanna, I do think we know more than just Bats and Supes

>>11690292
>We
Despite what your samefagging would lead us to believe, you're not the whole thread Jarret. Now fuck off already.

>>11690296
Man, you're really in love with that guy, aren't you?

>>11690296
I am not Jerret. I am just another slobberer. I too bought the Power Girl. This gen has probably cost me more money than brain cells.

>this blatant samefagging
This thread is a joke.

>>11689705
>either he would be out of the figure business long before 2020--or his figures would've already had great articulation years ago as a concession to his fans.
I think that argument is rather ingenuine because of course, you never know whether it's "true" fans who write on social media. I've still seen countless people going "I love your figures but PLEASE include better articulation and accessories" and to this day, I see similar comments online. Just because they may or may not be OG McFarlane fans doesn't mean the criticism isn't valid for a company trying to compete with companies like Hasbro

>I'm just delineating that McFarlane fans know to expect different things from McFarlane than DC fans or Marvel Legends fans did.
To some extent, that is valid but Todd still bothered to include better articulation in general when he received the license, no? That is enough proof that he knew what type of consumer base he was dealing with. You simply don't want to admit that he didn't want to learn from mistakes and put in the extra effort into the line to make it truly great for toy collectors in general

>If I walk into an art restoration studio and ask them to fix my TV, do you think they can do it?
Terrible analogy and you know it. You're comparing apples and oranges while both McFarlane and Hasbro are literally in the same business. Had McFarlane gotten into DC while only making statues, I'd admit you were somewhat right but he specifically got into the action figure side of things and REPLACED the Essentials line which already implies where the company is automatically headed. Stop making excuses for a company not listening to paying consumers

>Not having great articulation can also be a cost saving measure
Not true when they basically have almost the same articulation points as other companies. It's just that they don't bother to properly drill/sculpt some parts (e.g. upper torso) in a way the figures can move better

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>>11689441
>>company makes toys for children
>>adults start reee about how they look like kids toys
Most of what /toy/ talks about are children toys.
Marvel Legends, Transformers, GI Joe Classified, DC Multiverse, etc are all children toylines. Many children toy companies are able to give adult collectors what they like to see in children toylines.

This is why people cheered Mattel losing the license in 2019, because Mattel always made shitty toys that adults don't like.

>>11689516
>Todd and spin master couldn’t offer what WB needed.
$$$
Mattel has billions dollars more than both companies put together and they overpaid to get the license back.

Mattel got the license stripped away from them and the only reason they were able to get it back is because WB's changed ownership like 4 times since then. Whoever was in charge of stripping the license away from MAttel obviously doesn't work there anymore and WB has been in desperate need of cash ever since they got bought by Discovery.


So now we're stuck with Mattel shit for another 20 years and the new images are exactly what we know that Mattel would do.

In the end, if it isn't a McFarlane collection then it's just a bunch of kids toys. Too bad both DC Universe and Diamond Select dies bad, they were good toys. Mhm.

Bros how does it feel to have lived through the greatest era of DC toys that will ever be made?

Did you get all the characters you wanted or are you still filling out teams?

What's the best figure of the line? For me, it's the Wave 1 Superman. I still remember seeing a shelf full of him, classic Batman, and a bunch of other characters. Unimaginable now.

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DC should copy anime

Jesus Christ dude. Go to bed. Stop talking to yourself.

>>11689592
>mattel made Icons and Essentials
how are there so many newfags on /toy/? I thought zoomers didn't like to type and only doomscrolled on tiktok?

>>11690427
>Bros how does it feel to have lived through the greatest era of DC toys that will ever be made?
Despite all the shit McFarlane threw at us, I do think that in terms of character selection, this was the best line so far

>Did you get all the characters you wanted or are you still filling out teams?
I have already completed my team but I will switch out the evil-looking Wally figure against the new JLA Flash and then my team is complete.
I'd love for them to give us a Grant Morrison Kyle Rayner so I can switch him out for Hal but I'm also fine with the shiny Rebirth one because it looks special.
Now if they release cloth-caped Martian Manhunter and Shazam figures, I'd definitely get those as well but my aim was to complete the Justice League and I have already done that

>What's the best figure of the line?
Silver Age Superman by a landslide. His articulation is more than decent, wired cloth cape is on point, and the head is the best Superman head as of now. In terms of accessories, Wonder Woman Collector Edition. Had the entire line been like this, Todd would still hold the license in the future

>>11690455
Relax, I meant to say "plus" instead of "including". Literal brainfart and you are sperging like some woman

>>11690016
I don't even understand how after so many years, their abs articulation is still barely useful. Even Hasbro's slops have improved over the years.

>>11690455
The board is infested with newfags. It's unreal. Look at the ToyFair thread and how none of them understand what a trade show is and that ToyFair has been this way for literally decades.

>>11690486
That's the one thing that has never stopped bothering me. It's not rocket science and it's definitely not more expensive to make a slight change to the ab articulation. No matter who tries to defend McFarlane, this is hands down the best example for them not giving a shit about who buys their products. Good riddance

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>>11690578
Mattel is not gonna add any ab crunch to their toys

>>11690587
Masterverse doesn't have ab crunch? Could have sworn they have it

>>11690624
Just listen to anon, it's clear he is an authority on mattel and their plans.
Some say he is THE INSIDER and some say he is a mad man howling at cereal.

>>11690628
Stop being a fucking faggot, is it really that difficult for you? I bet you were a theater kid in high school.

>>11690587
That's just the kids line. The collectors line has yet to been revealed

>>11690628
I don't get it. What's so good about McFarlane that you feel the need to defend him so hard?

>>11690646
He invested time, effort, and most importantly, money into growing and building his collection, so he needs to justify it being the best thing either, he can't deal with the fact that he may need to start over from scratch and that his precious McFigures are going to be worthless once the new line starts.

>>11690648
Fair enough. Would've been easier if McFarlane was 1/12 scale to begin with. At least when you buy DC figures from other companies, they'll fit in.

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>>11689240
I hope it is a kids line. I'm sick of action figures being so marked up for the "adult" collector. It's not that I want things to be cheap but for fucks sake I don't want to be paying out the ass for a figure of a character who should have them by the truckload. You don't have to go full 90s Toybiz but you remember the old Marvel Legends line? God imagine if they tossed in a reprint of a comic book.

>>11690648
>so he needs to justify it being the best thing either
I was genuinely thinking about that the other day. I'm fully satisfied with the 8 McFarlane figures I have and have already decided not to get into the Mattel line. On the other hand, I'm wondering whether Mattel could really pull off convincing me to get into the line (and obviously selling off all McFarlanes prior to that)

>and that his precious McFigures are going to be worthless once the new line starts.
Is anyone actually thinking about that though? I feel like no matter how autistic people are on this board, nobody really cares about the monetary value of their figures as long as they're high quality

>>11690624
Some do and some don't. There's definitely masterverse figures that are as botched as Todds. Most domestic companies are rather incompetent besides jada except their cyberpunk stuff is pretty bad looking. No idea how it moves

>>11689568
I do wonder about the capes. I'd prefer it if Superman's wasn't a permanent swoosh but I can live it.

>>11690673
But how much would that TB ML line be now? It was already cut down in price because TB was basically Marvel and didn't have to pay licensing. TB ML was a kids line because the market was such that it would be considered one, but it was still a notch above cheaper kids toys at the $6-8 price point.
The prices of everything have been raised relative to what they were in the past. When I was a kid from 96-2003, Transformers were largely in the $6-20 range, with only a select few $30 releases, and two $40 releases. when Unicron released it was $50, the biggest expense on a TF I had seen in my life, and that stuck that way until the movies.

>>11690673
Collecting Toy Biz ML today is some blackpill shit. Everything released today, from articulation to accessories to sculpt to price, pales in comparison.

It’s been pretty embarrassing watching adult men complaining about Mattel’s kids line and retroactively praising mcfarlane as a result even going so far as to say they are done collecting dc figures after mcfarlane stops selling figures.

the autism of comic book nerds is why Jim Lee praises anime for winning while DC remains irrelevant

>>11690835
Yeah I’ve unsubscribed and unfollowed the already small handful of toytubers I watch. The toy “community” as a whole is so gay and retarded and getting dumber everyday.

>mattel finally makes a great kids line
>reeeeee nooooo whyyyyy
Why are you guys like this

>>11690873
It feels like it's just one or two guys (you know who) freaking out and being the overly dramatic babies they always are. I mean it's coming from a guy who made this huge stink about leaving and being done after getting his precious Zatanna only for him to keep shitting this place up like usual. I think it's people that have far too much time on their hands. I, for one, think the new kids line looks pretty good for what it is. Not something I'm into, but definitely a leg up from Spinmasters imo.

As for praising and critiquing Todd, this thread has been wishy washy about that since the beginning. People initially shat on the first few waves, rightly so since they were extra terrible, and only started praising the line a year or two in, when they were doing Death Metal shit that the dopey casuals lapped up. Then when they finally moved on to characters people actually wanted, the die hard McFarlane fans started having a hissy fit since it was mainly reuse. This thread consists of two types of people, DC fans and McFarlane fans. You can clearly tell which is which. I'm a DC fan, I don't care if one company makes their toys over another, as long as their good, hell, I'll even mix and match when I can. Company loyalty is fucking stupid.

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>>11690835
It's just gotten so out of hand. I want something to actually give the kids. To let them spark their imaginations.

>>11690876
I don't imagine it's anything but a few extreme autistic but the internet has made it way to easy for the loud retarded minority to scream so their voices overpower everyone else. Ultimately it will depend on sales really but it's just getting annoying.

>>11690835
>>11690873
>>11690879
Well it's nice to see I'm not the only one who feels this way.
And hell yeah man, kids need to put down the phones and go play in the yard. Tell stories with their mattel DC figures or just collect them or whatever.
Kinda totally off topic but metoons is adding kyrpto and a losh cartoon in Feb. So get your kids in on the ground floor of the new wave of DC fandom so that hopefully they too can enjoy DC Gen, when they are 18 of course.

>>11690879
They are too few and unable to actually do anything other than screech into the void, so it's pointless to give them attention at all.

>>11690873
how do you know it’s great? an AI-looking poster from Germany?

>>11690876
Frankly I dont know how he pays for these toys when he shits up this place all day instead of working

>>11690920
He’s also a mod given he’s never banned and his troll threads never purged

>>11690873
It doesn't have ankle or torso articulation. It really isn't a line worth looking at. It shouldn't even be on this place's radar.

>>11690879
Kids don't care about super heroes, anon. They just care about scrolling on twitter/facebook or playing mobile games on their tablet/phone. I don't see how comics compete with that. They don't want to wait a MONTH for the next 20 pages when they can have a multi hour twitch vod of some doofus today.

>>11690925
>Kids don't care about super heroes
This is untrue, Spider-Man is still popular amongst my friends kids. But it really is just Spider-Man, I don't know anyone who has a kid into Batman or even the Avengers. Granted most of these children are 2020's kids.

>>11690925
Batman and spider man are eternal

>>11690940
There was a time in the 70s when Batman was in danger of getting cancelled

>>11690928
if DC were smart (they’re not), they’d produce something as simple and accessible as Spidey and His Amazing Friends. it really sucks, but kids love it.

>>11690925
Comics are dead but superheroes will always be popular.

>>11690925
>Kids don't care about super heroes, anon.
Kids would and do care a lot if they had a way to actually experience them and play with them.

>>11691006
They do. Remember those shitty little $10 page puncher action figure packs that came with two 3 inch figures that could barely move? That's all the options left to the majority of kids. They didn't sell, needless to say.

>>11690963
And then it didn’t faggot

>>11691007
Page Punchers was such an embarrassing release. Literal waste of materials.

>>11691015
Only due to a change in the creative team.

>>11690988
There's some Spidey show on right now that the kids are really into. My friends have two kindergarten aged kids and they're super into it. The whole family was Spidey themed for Halloween with the little girl even correcting me when I accidentally called her Spider Gwen instead of Ghost Spider. It seems to be family oriented and the right tone for kids that age. DC desperately needs an equivalent. You could do a Bat Family themed show like that, but I think Superman lends itself better to that age bracket. It's kind of criminal that there isn't a kid friendly Super Sons show with Jon and Damian going on more kid friendly adventures. Hell you can throw in Wonder Woman's daughter Trinity or whoever she is that they introduced a few years ago.

>>11691023
My mother put that gay shit on for my daughter then I corrected the issue by putting on Spider-Man tas. Babyshit like Spider-Man and friends unironically make kids dumber.

>>11691023
Btas is just fine for kids unless you want them to be retarded faggots

>>11691018
It really was a very lack luster series. But, sometimes new ideas fall flat. Still, a sub par figure and a reprint comic could have worked better at a lower price point for stores like dollar general or 5 below etc.

>>11691023
Dc also has tones of options for kids shit that isn’t pants shitting toddler lever like krypto the super dog
Legion of superheroes
Justice league action
Teen titans
Batman the brave and the bold
What you’re asking for exists on Amazon currently https://youtu.be/k6sE5jYOFx0?si=V4lKSQZ8_wnQITyM
If you subject kids to that instead of any of the above you need help

>>11691023
Yes. Spidey and His Amazing Friends. All three of my kids love it, including my three year old girl. The closest DC offering is “Batwheels”, which is terrible and completely ignored by kids. They also tried a Justice League show where they wore battle armor and neither of my boys were interested.
I’ll say one thing for the Spidey show: it’s completely devoid of any agenda crap despite who they have tagging along with Peter. It’s just a really harmless bad guy doing really harmless bad guy things in each episode and it’s colorful and simple. I want to hate it but I can’t, though I’m not a fan. A DC equivalent like you’re suggesting with “Jon” is in trouble right off the bat.

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>>11690417
>I think that argument is rather ingenuine because of course, you never know whether it's "true" fans who write on social media. I've still seen countless people going "I love your figures but PLEASE include better articulation and accessories" and to this day, I see similar comments online. Just because they may or may not be OG McFarlane fans doesn't mean the criticism isn't valid for a company trying to compete with companies like Hasbro

The criticism of their articulation is valid but will fall on deaf ears at McFarlane Toys. I infer it's most likely people new to collecting McFarlane Toys because otherwise they would've gotten burnt out years ago asking for good articulation if that is a high priority for them. And Todd thought he could compete by getting people over to his 'rule of cool' thinking, or thought normal people and kids would buy the figures. He failed because a majority of collectors buy on character looks and teams (moreso than even good articulation or else far more would be buying imports instead of domestics).

But as far as I can tell Todd didn't seem to accept the paradigm that he had to have better than DCMV's current poor articulation to compete with Hasbro. It was probably a contributing factor but there were others like 7in and "cool" characters.

>To some extent, that is valid but Todd still bothered to include better articulation in general when he received the license, no?

Better than many of his lines, like their GoT line, but mostly just due to higher POA without regard for making sure the points actually work and have good range. There's a lot of money wasted with useless POA in DCMV on many figures. It is a designer issue. They can't fathom things like by hiding ankle joints partly behind overlays like armor that they limit the de facto articulation since the joint is impeded. They seem to think hiding the "ugly" articulation is good even if it makes it so the articulation can't be used. Pic very related.

>>11690417
>You simply don't want to admit that he didn't want to learn from mistakes and put in the extra effort into the line to make it truly great for toy collectors in general

Are you kidding? I have basically said as much--I said regarding the prospect of any kind of midstream DCMV articulation upgrade, " Changing that midstream would've been difficult, so he probably just elected not to do it." Not to mention my frequent statements of "don't expect good articulation from McFarlane because you're only going to be disappointed if you do." Does this sound like someone defending their inability or unwillingness to improve the articulation?

Todd is an "art" man, he clearly prefers less articulation, hiding articulation and breaking up the sculpt of a figure less. The only reason DCMV has "22 moving parts" of articulation is because McFarlane Toys knew a certain level of POA was mandatory for the line, but made little effort to make the articulation work well.

>Terrible analogy and you know it.
When it first entered my mind, it was actually much worse -- walking into a McDonalds and asking them to repair a TV -- and was adjusted to be a closer category as that was too big a category error. A closer one might be asking an art restoring company to fix a broken antique phonograph. It may fall in the same category in that you could consider it a piece of art but there is a technical aspect that puts it beyond the specialty of who you are asking. There's too much technical prowess needed for their capability. Asking McFarlane to make an Amazing Yamaguchi tier figure, even if there was no price ceiling, would still get you something that could barely articulate better than a DCMV figure. Just look at their $60 elite figures.

>>11690417
>You're comparing apples and oranges while both McFarlane and Hasbro are literally in the same business. Had McFarlane gotten into DC while only making statues, I'd admit you were somewhat right but he specifically got into the action figure side of things
That's black and white thinking; Statue or Action Figure. It isn't that simple or else all action figure manufacturers would be equally as good at sculpt and articulation. McFarlane focuses on art, Hasbro on articulation. It is a gray scale range and each manufacturer sits at different areas based on their different priorities and staff capabilities.

>Not true when they basically have almost the same articulation points as other companies.
Did you read the rest of the post? It had nothing to do with cutting POA to save money but rather hiring less competent designers for lower salaries to save money.

>>11691028
I've never heard of the show before that interaction and I haven't looked further into it so I dunno what it's like, just that it exists.

>>11691029
Sure, I mean I watched it when I was like 5 or 6. But that doesn't mean there can't be a modern kid friendly show out for the Pre-K kids.

>>11691032
Well what do you know? I wonder if that awful art style is why it isn't as popular as the Spidey one. As for the aforementioned stuff, I don't know if it appeals to modern kids. Krypto the Superdog came out what, nearly twenty years ago now? I understand kids wanting more contemporary cartoons, I liked the more modern stuff in the 90s that was coming out than any of the older cartoons on the air at the time.

>>11691034
Ah, I assumed you were referring to the old 80s Amazing Friends. Didn't realize they reused the name just with Spidey instead of Spider Man. Yeah the Bat Senpai trailer the guy posted above looks fucking awful. No wonder kids aren't attracted to DC stuff if this is what they get. As for Jon, I forgot they made him gay. I choose to ignore that and DC ended sometime before Bendis came onto Superman. Just like Marvel ended with Hickman's Secret Wars.

>>11691007
I miss the 3.75 marvel line

>>11691046
why did they stop it? Shouldn't it have worked for cheap super hero figures for kids? Or are we correct in saying kids dont like action figures?

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>>11691036

Marvel Universe wasn’t a kids line.

>>11691052
This. Marvel Universe was just 3.75 Marvel Legends. While both lines are technically child lines since they could be purchased in the toy aisle, they're treated as collector lines by Hasbro.

>>11689826
Mattel’s collector stuff is still very generic compared to McFarlane. You can say apples and oranges all you want but it’s a step down IMO, I don’t see there premium DC figures magically being a huge step up from everything they’re currently producing.

>>11689976
Exactly this.

>>11691051
All that paint wasted

>>11691056
You’re opinion on a product nobody will see until comic con is irrelevant

>>11691046
Yeah....dope stuff
>>11691049
They likely did not meet the standards of such sophisticated and learned collectors, such as the men groaning over figures in this thread.

They could buy mafex. I don't understand the time people devote to complain over things they won't buy.

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>>11691067
I actually used to make the MU General. It was not a popular line on /toy/. Part of it was first impressions, since the early figures weren’t nearly as good as the later ones.

>>11691080
Might be what screwed dcmv too, but other lines were able to recover

>>11691049
Dunno. They got pretty far into it so it had to have been selling at least somewhat well.

>>11691018
>>11691031
It was also 5poa trash, and I hated that stuff even as a kid. I remember hating all the old Super Powers figures my cousins gave me as a kid because all they could do was kick each other and praise the sun.

>>11691160
>Needing more

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>>11689832
For anyone curious, Mattel has revealed they're changing scales for their adult collector line of MOTU figures, which are now 5.5 inches, and have over 30 points of articulation. They're advertising that it creates a uniform scale to share vehicles and playsets for other lines. So the "collector" DC figures could end up smaller. Please enjoy this curveball and how your toys may never scale.