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Hasbro aint beating the “we made the toy wrong on purpose so we can sell you the corrected version later” allegations any time soon

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>>11681488
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Imagine liking MP10
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>>11688113
>picrel
Why can’t he just be the damn pistol like he’s supposed to be? The tank retcon for G1 Megatron is so embarrassing…at least do him in the G2 color scheme if you must.
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Ouch...
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>>11688195
are you intentionally retarded or just living under a rock

please go try and sell a transforming robot that turns into a realistic walther p38 to children in this day and age. Even ignoring the laws that stop you from doing that, you will get kids shot and you will get sued. And don't even try to start with 'don't make it a realistic firearm' because you'd complain if it wasn't cartoon accurate anyway.

I do agree we need a new g2 megatron though. We've gotten two goddamn laser prime molds now that don't have an accompanying Megatron.
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>>11688195
You wouldn't be able to hold it like a role play weapon anyway.
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>>11688172
Why is the second figure an oversized CHUG figure in a MP display? Surely its cheaper than SS86 Prime?
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>>11688113
Original release looks fine to me, don't give a shit about the leg color. Don't need the beaten up version just because of that.

>>11688195
>Still beating a dead horse
They can't make a pistol toy by law.
People still want a mainline G1 Megatron, so they went for a really clean robot mode with the next most logical alt mode.
They included a small version of his gun mode as a compromise.

That's all there is to it, there's nothing else to discuss. The gun isn't happening ever again unless it's a Japanese exclusive release like an MP or Missing Link.
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>>11688122
>Buy the battle damaged megs
>Remove the legs and swap them with the regular 86 figure
>Return it and get your money back

But don't worry. I'd never, never, never, EVER do something as shitty as that....
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Trying to decide if I should get the dramatic capture series with reflector or hold off and see if they do a studio style release. I don't want the thundercracker.
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>>11688208
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>>11688209
>Evan is a massive JPBW fan
>get new Lio Convoy
>get new Magmatron
>get new Big Convoy
>hmm…
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>>11688172
man, mp-10 did not age well. The munky arms are more noticeable than ever.
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>>11688220
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>>11688220
When?
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>>11688223
Those are the after-effects of having his spark inside of Primal for a while.
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>>11688220
I know some fools are going to have fun with that belly port
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>>11688221
Evan works on Studio Series
Mark does Generations
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>>11688224
That's the strangest truck dick I've ever seen, and I've seen plenty.
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>>11688223
I don’t mind, especially since it was basically the gold standard for G1 Prime toys for a LONG time
>>11688232
I know, but I’m sure he has some influence on the main Generations line as well
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>>11688220
Hate to be a nitpicker, but this isn't even accurate to the movie, the shard pierced Prime's left flank, not his grill.
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>>11688248
The peg was probably too big for the left flank.
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>>11688248
Guess it'd be too tight with the transformation stuff there?
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PUNISHED AUTISMO
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>>11687966
Thanks.
My set up is very basic, just an 18”x18” light box I got off Amazon, my phone and excessive use of of dutch angles. Then punch up the colours using Photopea.

>>11687980
No blog or socials, just what I post here from time to time. Appreciate it though.

>>11687973
Oh anon, you’re so silly. Here have a (You) and some UTshit.
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I dont like the ab peg and that normal 86 megs should have had the gun, but the entire optimus v megatron fight right to NEVER is one of the most kino, gut wrenching moments transformers as a media entity has to offer, so hasbro might have me here
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>>11688224
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>>11688208
I would have waited an eternity for this
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>>11688248
Yeah I noticed that too. I dunno, I think they didn't go far enough with the battle damage on either figure, they look more like add on parts to the original decos. I might have considered both of them if they looked REALLY fucked up, but they look pristine besides the new tooling
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>>11688220
The corpse redeco is inevitable now. Billions must display their highly-articulated, ~$60 transforming figure laying down like a statue.
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>>11688209
>>11688212
>>11688214
They absolutely can make the gun form. The only stipulation in the USA is that there’s a bright plastic cap on the barrel, or the gun toy must be brightly colored.
> I do agree we need a new g2 megatron though. We've gotten two goddamn laser prime molds now that don't have an accompanying Megatron.
I would’ve been fine with a G2 Megatron in studio series style. But the slavish adherence to making G1 not a gun sounds more like a localization/cost issue than any legal compliance thing.
> You wouldn't be able to hold it like a role play weapon anyway.
Transformers can mass shift, anyway, so idc.
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>>11688329
kek
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>>11688367
Already confirmed for next year
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>>11688408
It took a couple of years, but they're finally churning out official repaints of the SS86 mold. Or rather, the original one and its battle-damaged retool.
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>>11688441
https://x.com/xmlzb/status/2015859804397568097?s=46
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>>11688172
Peak
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>>11688113
>Autismo: The Fight Injured
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>Hasbro will give us two flavors of dead Optimus before they give us Nemesis Prime
Help us Takara New Legends, you're our only hope.
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>>11688220
>>11688224
Can I get Nemesis/SG Prime instead of this shit, please?
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>>11688484
>>11688496
Do yourselves a favour and just spend $25 on the KO.
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>>11688369
>They absolutely can make the gun form. The only stipulation in the USA is that there’s a bright plastic cap on the barrel, or the gun toy must be brightly colored.
Dude, they even tried releasing the G1 Megatron in bright orange and blue chrome and even that was cancelled because they couldn't convince Toys R Us to stock it. The gun thing is more trouble than what is worth, nobody wants to risk any possible problems over a toy, no matter how loud they paint it.
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>>11688209
Yea imagine ever doing that? ha ha like that'd ever happen
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>>11688550
That's not a toy sold at retail in the US, dumdum. The main target was Japan like any other MP design, those are Takara toys.

You obviously weren't around when retailers had to open the boxes of the MP Megatron and glue orange caps on the barrel for it to be able to be imported to the US.
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Your gun Megatron, sir.
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>>11688568
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>>11688209
you're wrong about basically everything, which is sad because the part you were right about is criticizing anon's ignorance
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>>11688215
returning it to a retailer would be scummy
returning it to the company would be justice, but that's not available.
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>>11688568
man I understand a lot of people want a conversion kit for this but if this is the best they can do why even bother
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>>11688221
my first big transformer
>>11688224
>pic related
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>>11688542
This is why we have the terms 'de facto' and 'de jure'
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>>11688568
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>>11688329
>Smoking a french fry is the right of all sentient beings
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>>11688297
You know how your images have a white halo around everything? That's how you know you were too heavy handed with the editing.
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>>11688603
not that guy but trying to be less terribad at photography
what haloes?
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>>11688616
Look really closely at some of the edges. The underside of the left arm and the left wing line for instance. There's a very small white glow. It's probably not noticeable on a phone but it is on a larger screen. Too much color punch up.
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>>11688625
Ohhhhhhhhh i see it. Yeah.
Is that what does that? if I had to guess I'd just say anon had tried to lower the brightness of the background, and imperfectly masked off the figure. due to that being basically impossible to do perfectly unless it's literally greenscreened in.
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>>11688542
Neither paint nor NERF-designing is ever gonna release Megatron as a gun anymore. The Classics Megatron is the final gun Megatron, and today, that is even banned.
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>>11688637
at this point i don't even think takara would make a new masterpiece of it, knowing hasbro would probably refuse to even import it with the caps these days

you're gonna have to go with the chinese for this one
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>>11688633
Yeah, that's it. You get that exaggeration where light meets dark when something is over processed. Helps to zoom to 100% when editing. Super nitpicky of me to point out though, I admit.
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>>11688584
It’s honestly hilarious how big G2 Megs is. He’s heads and shoulders taller than G2 Laser Prime, about the same as Powermaster Prime, and almost as tall as G1 Trypticon
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>>11688643
i'm tellin you man
submarine mode
or sell it as two unrelated products that assemble together. there's always creative ways around things.
>>11688646
well if I was that guy, I'd take that as a helpful tip.
I don't do much photography, but I do fuck with digital art pretty often, and I've had to totally teach myself lighting effects and junk because my stupid stubborn brain hates lessons.
>>11688668
not to mention he's got ZZ cups of injustice. Fucker can't even clear them with his arms. though also his fists don't clear his arm armor, so that's kinda moot.
in terms of proportions he should be fucking laughable, yet somehow, it works. I'd love to see him redone with somewhat more modern sensibilities, but not FULL gundam. Just... a little less crazy. In fact I'd really like to see an Animated style version of this design.
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G2 Megatron redo that's not just a G1 tanktron repaint when?
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>>11688603
>>11688625
>>11688646
Cheers for the constructive criticism, anon. I've only started having a go at toy photographing fairly recently and I'm figuring it out as I go, so any tips are welcome. I'm using an old iPhone XR and the image quality isn't the best, so I think I've been over-editing my images to compensate.
I'm definitely going to look at a phone upgrade now but any tips you can offer would be most appreciated.
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>>11688685
Never.
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>>11688686
Cool. I'm sure you know how important light is. Indirect light from say a window or desk lamp with white tissue paper over it to diffuse works good. On your iPhone tap and hold on the figure until you see AE/AF. Slide your finger down to slightly darken the shot. You might even wanna try Portrait mode.
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>>11688582
It's literally the Skyboom comic
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>>11688113
Annoyed that I missed the preorder for pink Hot Rod because that means he's going to be the one that's nonexistent at retail
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>>11688542
I'd love a modern Megatron in that deco.
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>>11688309
It will forever bug me that Optimus did not use his built in axe to deliver a point blank finishing blow.
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>>11688693
Reverse Convoy?

And by the way, please pray that we can finally see Nexus Prime and Liege Maximo this Friday, at least because that day, Hasbro will show up.
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>>11688556
It literally was sold at Retail
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>>11688224
I just picture a cartoon mobster with a cigar in his mouth
>Nyeh, Megatron must be stopped no matter tha' cost, see?
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>>11688526
Oh wow only 25? Its the same size right?
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>>11688195
Megatron should be an artillery platform.
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>>11688712
A shame the battle damage parts were already pre-baked into the mold. I didn't like the original head and I hoped for a G1 accurate battle damaged one, but this mp 10 inspired head doesn't do it for me.
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>>11688760
maybe a coaxial cable got severed or his axe generator was damaged
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>>11688794
MP10 will be a benign cancer to Optimus toys forever more
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>>11688172
MP-44 is the odd one out. MP-10 is fine. It still has one of my favorite Optimus heads.
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>>11688213
I really don't see how it's all that different from what MPs used to be. It isn't toonshit, this is true. But if not MP where would it go? What makes it less deserving than MP-10? I think MP-10 has a slightly better truck mode but that's about it.

I understand not liking it. I even better understand not wanting it. Call it MP-10-2 if you want. You have a better argument for MPG Hot Rod.
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>>11688113
Damn they're really gonna sell the correct color legs with battle damage so you need to buy the original anyway lol
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>>11688823
the mask is kinda falling away
Though some of the decisions I feel like it's because the idiots upstairs asked for one thing (say, Blackarachnia having black spider legs for more realism) and they pushed like "hey what if we did the toy deco Blackarachnia" and internally going (so you can swap out the orange spider legs...) like maybe the designers are looking out for us... ..heh..
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>>11688823
It's even more annoying, because they also seem to have changed the dark brown for black, so it's like a huge fuck you to people interested in both releases:

-Normal release fucks up several colors and lacks the purple gun
-Damaged release has all that, but they didn't paint over the battle damage correctly so it looks awful.
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>>11688837
best solution is to swap the chest and the head from the normal release to the battle damaged release and sell the leftovers.
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>>11688823
The original release already had the correct leg color though.
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guys it's not even the right altmode
aren't all other quibbles pointless? just dont get one at all. give a chinaman money for one and then feel bad later.
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>>11688863
The color is almost blue, it should be closer to Grey or silver.
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didnt takara already do their version with more correct colors?
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>>11688839
I'm shit out of luck there. Targets don't exist here and after getting it, I'll still have to sell the extra one. Too much or a hassle.
>>11688871
No, they had a promotional copy but their promo copies don't always have finished color layouts.
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>>11688870
Grey on my machine.
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>>11688873
so not so much 'no' as 'not yet'
and I did say 'already' so yeah. okay thanks.
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>>11688195
>Why can’t he just be the damn pistol like he’s supposed to be?
Because at least 50% of transformers buyers are still kids, and they don't want to sell a guy to a kid for fear of being sued. The law allows for it with specific actions, but that doesn't mean they won't have to pay off settlements not to mention pr.
Big toy companies are risk averse because kids are fickle and they can already hit slumps by something just not being "in" that year.

Not to mention, the gun was in fact a real gun, a walther p38. Walther currently licenses to airsoft makers, which qualify as toys, so hasbro might also just might not have the ability to get the legal rights either. Not to mention g1 used accessories from "the man from Uncle" which got a reboot movie 10 years ago, so the rights might get muddy. It's like how some g1 autobots just can't be their g1 alt modes anymore.

And making it a knockoff gun that doesn't look like a walther p38 but still looks like megatron... I dunno if that's possible.

They should have made him a rail gun. Still has the pistol look, but not the shape.
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>>11688868
>guys it's not even the right altmode
>aren't all other quibbles pointless?
Not really, no, since ss86 was always about getting as close to picture perfect robot modes as possible.

Kup was such a let down, and that was the only one they tried to focus on the alt mode. And he was in the first wave, so they've long since abandoned that.
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>>11688881
yeah there's so many cool alternate altmodes they could go with, some of which could be 3rdparty modded into a gun.
a tank is lazy and shows a lack of faith in their product. He should absolutely be a rail gun (that is, the kind on train rails, not a magnetic accelerator), or one of those rolling cannons..
>>11688884
ohhh in that case, yeah. I can see that being the priority.
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>>11688172
MP10 really is the odd one out. The other three have this nice streamlined heroic design, and then there's MP10 looking like a doodle drawn by a guy who might have heard the name Optimus Prime once in a crowded room.
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>>11688863
>shills are still trying to use this cope
grim
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>>11688760

The double axe handle is more badass because he's doing what Megatron said he would (but didn't because he's a cheating piece of shit) and crushing him with his bare hands.
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>>11688934
oh damn, honorable to the last.
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>>11688904
The shills that... are not buying two of the exact same toy?
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>>11688779
Get the slightly more expensive one instead of AS for better quality
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>>11688248
Don't worry, it's show accurate.
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>>11688309
>>11688113
>>11688208
I still wonder what the experience was when the movie was new in theaters. It must've devastated a mass of viewers
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>>11689042
every 80s kid i've talked to has agreed, that fucking kicked them in the grundle.
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>>11689043
>>11689042

Was it worse than the horse dying in Neverending story or slightly less traumatic? What about compared to Watership Down. You guys had some fucked up shit

I think the closest I ever had as a 90s kid was Beast Wars Optimud Primal but Rhinox goes to the astral realm the next episode and he came back shortly after that. And the amount of time we had to know.

And Bob getting sent to the internet in ReBoot. But it's not like there was a body. And Enzo getting his fucking head literalky crushed by Satan. That shit fucked me up but everyone survived somehow in the next episode just aged up.
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>>11689084
>know
Him would have been shorter* at just a season.
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>>11689042
>>11689043
I feel like the casual, brutal ways they were willing to kill off characters kids had spent 60 plus episodes with is not only what makes The Movie work, it's also what has allowed Transformers to survive past the 80s. I hope they do battle damaged/dead versions of every character that got it just so I can eventually have a section of my TF The Movie shelf that's all robot corpses.
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>>11689084

>I think the closest I ever had as a 90s kid was Beast Wars Optimud Primal but Rhinox goes to the astral realm the next episode and he came back shortly after that

For me it's the end of BW season 2. BW Megs blowing off Prime's head, like the first 30 minutes of The Movie, really leaves you with the feeling that the good guys are well and truly fucked in a way that they can't come back from.
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>>11689084
>And Bob getting sent to the internet in ReBoot.
i'm 40 and i'm the 90s kid i never saw Transformers The Movie as a kid (in fact...there are no memories of 80s cartoons in my brain - i start to remember TV-shows only from early 90s).

And fucking YES so much yes Reboot...
reboot was my first "trauma" (if we don't coount Don Bluth cartoons and Lion King) - it was when Enzo gets his eye cut by that Diablo-guy and next episode he grows up.
it blew my mind and it was the first time TV-show made me feel sadness and danger.
PS:
since im 40 and i dont remember cartoons in the 80s...i assume all those people who want "cartoon accuracy" and enjoyed Transformers in the 80s ...they might be close to 50 i guess...
damn...we are old
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>>11689084
>Watership Down
these examples are complete bs. It's what i call "TOP10 le ebin creepy youtube cartoons"
Nobody was scared of such stuff back then.
It was either edgy-cool or badass or fucked up but it wasnt scaring us.
It just made kids say "holy shit did you saw that cartoon where rabbits rip their faces off ?? :D Hahaha lol fuck it was fucking epic :D"

Cartoons that traumatized us were usually more profound and did so on a different level, showing the death of a relative (or a friend we've gotten used to over many episodes or a movie length) or changing the tone of the genre really quickly like with Reboot.
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>>11689043
Did they leave the theater crying and/or disowned the toys out of betrayal, or something?
>>11689087
>it's also what has allowed Transformers to survive past the 80s.
how?
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>>11689107

>how

Because it clearly left a strong emotional impact on the kids who saw it and people buy into stories more when the stakes feel real. Setting the precedent that you can kill off Transformers characters onscreen (due to being robots) was also fucking huge for media aimed at children during that time and for what it would mean for the franchise going forward. The Autobot shuttle massacre is what paved the path to shit like Dinobot's last stand and Starscream sacrificing himself towards the end of Armada.



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