Not sure if anyone here bought these, I remember them being posted here at the time they were announced.Wonder why they decided to cancel, not enough orders?Really sucks as these would’ve been the only good options for fans of the film.
Oooof, but completely unsurprising. Ninja Scroll figures continue to be cursed.
>>11689587They shilled the fuck out of this for months in order to secure enough preorders to produce it, and after 2 years they just can it? Wtf happened?
>>11689587Glad I went through BBTS for my Pre-Order. I sniffed out this thing failing months ago and it's real easy to cancel from them. It's a shame, while Fwoosh don't make great figures, any Ninja Scroll figures in this day and age would've been cool. Their Ninja were decent enough and this guy had potential to at least be Marvel Legends tier quality, so it's a shame it's not getting made.
>>11689587Based, Fuck Robo
>>11689587Welp, at least those skeletons they were making are still up to receive afaik.
>>11690126over priced crap, five below has better options
>>11690114Robo bailed on Fwoosh a long time ago. It's just been that one guy who tried to run the Fwoosh Toys leg of it. Pabs, I think is his name? >Wonder why they decided to cancel, not enough orders?No, it's one guy trying to run all of Fwoosh Toys and mismanaging money. Pre-orders for items years out and collecting money immediately, continuously trying to still shill those crappy Ninjas from like a decade ago that were bad back then and awful by today's standards, everyone else at Fwoosh leaving the company because they didn't agree with his business decisions, etc. Pretty sure these Ninja Scroll figures were originally scheduled to come out like a year or year and a half ago and he never even showed a single update of them making it to the factory stage. If they had started tooling, which should have been started at least a year or two ago, these wouldn't be canceled because that's the most expensive step.
>>11690126LOL good luck with that.
lmao imagine thinking this would succeed day 1
>>11690114Robo left fwoosh like 2 years ago m8
I forgot they were even going to be making these. Ah well
So why was it canceled? Anyone know?>>11690183Not a lot of companies actually go through a step by step process if it's not done through Kickstarter. Companies like Four Horsemen ask for interest-free loans from their fans and has never documented those processes (and considering some of their mishaps, it's like they themselves don't even look at production either). So it's common for toy companies to not make any announcements until it's almost ready to ship.Delays are usually announced though, especially when they have retail support. If there's a delay, most small companies are likely going to face financial trouble, due to the costs involved.Given all the bullshit that's been going on since COVID, I'm surprised a lot more companies haven't folded. MAterial shortages. Fuel shortages. Shipping delays. Labor costs going up. Tariffs. Plus, people buying less shit due to all these shortages/delays/labor driving up prices... it's seriously a bit crazy people were still trying to buy shit like they used to and crazier still so many companies have remained in business.
>>11690252Right, but if tooling had even been started, these would come out eventually. Tooling costs many thousands of dollars and is the most expensive part of the process. It's also done very early on in the production process so it's sounding like not much happened in the 2 years or whatever since they opened the pre orders.
>>11690185Well the Skeletons did come out, they sucked and were awkward, but they did get made. Now Fresh Monkey Fiction either owns the molds or are licensing them as they plan to put out some of those Fwoosh Skeletons under their Monster Force line. >>11690252>interest-free loansThis was a dumb term a decade ago and it's still a dumb term today. >>11690257Not always the case, I remember a Kickstarter that was doing Skeletons and generic soldiers that got to the tooling stages and even had the Skeletons produced, but because of QC issues they had to get touched up over and over again until the guy just ran out of money and ghosted the whole project. There were actual physical figures made, but without funds to finish and finalize everything, all of em probably ended up being scrapped. Chinese factories will also hold product hostage if they feel they can get away with it, They did it to the 4H way back when and it was only because guys at NECA got involved did it sort of get sorted. 4H lost a lot of their older molds in the process but they seemed to learn from it as their current factories seem way better. It also helps they have a MUCH larger, very consistent output, as a constant flow of product keeps a factory happy.
>>11690257Unfortunately, if you have $50,000, spent $30,000 on tooling and then $25,000 on material+labor and then some fuck up happens and they want $9k more to fix it.... you really odn't have enough money to fix it and then have it shipped.There's a reason why these companies are asking for money up front for these projects. They can't get bank loans like a normal, healthy company can, so if trouble arises, they can't pay the $10k difference and they lose everything.Asking your customers for additional money is the worst thing any company can do, since you'll likely get threatened by a lawsuit. And announcing another product to raise funds isn't a great idea either and people usually recognize this for what it is.... and you should never support this shit either (unless it's already made)BUT who knows what's up with Fwoosh. People are getting refunded, so they obviously have money.That's why I'm asking why it was canceled. Maybe it's just China being China and trying to fuck Fwoosh over. Instead of getting fucked over even more, Fwoosh called it quits before they get buried even more by a deceitful factory.
