Previous one: >>11713244Out now:>Mole Rat (V.2)>Big Lob>Night Viper>LifelineDue soon:>Hit-n-Run>retro-card Female Crimson Guard>retro-card Zap>retro-card Crazy LegsUnknown release dates:>Zanya with Swamp Skier>Ninja Force Zartan>Airtight>Hydro-Viper>Taurus and Red Dog 2-pack>Cobra arctic 3-pack>retro card Wild Bill>DIRE-tech Night Creeper >Legacy Special Forces Action Soldier>Professor Rottclaw and dino-buddy with extra head for "Paleo Viper">Sundown>Dawn Moreno alternative Snake eyesComing from Reaction+:>250th USA anniversary Lady Jaye, Falcon, Duke and Snake Eyes>Flash>Daina>Chuckles>Hydro-Viper>G.I. Joe A Real American Hero:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLM0FaPp2oenPi6zQOTBUCRoYnjhp0eEKQ>G.I. Joe Renegades:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9iSDGvA4UNCGK-QiRUoxNHPun1PAIXON>G.I. Joe Spy Troops (PAL version, ripped and edited by a very kind Aussie Anon/Spy Troops anon):https://mega.nz/folder/UbgRhCQA#9MNOu25I6Rqv0BlaSUj8XA
>>11722803>hillbilly baroness editionUh...anon?
>>11722847Look at her face in that picture. The animators made her look completely retarded.
>>11722857She's missing a tooth. Does that qualify as retarded with kids now? I'm sure we could spend years just laughing at animation errors if we go cel by cel.
>>11722887>just three posts in>the asshole who feels the need to pick an argument over any excuse he can shows up
>>11722930Ah sweet, someone's making 3rd party knock offs of those old motorized vehicle packs!
Just popping in to remind everyone it's over.
>>11722991They're actually Big Wheels for adult figures. They're made by Rowdy Toys, who also makes a Classified-scale Thunder Machine
Apparently the next wave after the one that just got released is in May.
posted these in the last thread.
>>11723982I would not complain if Hasbro went back to this scale. At least we got a bigger variety of vehicles and at lower prices. The only vehicle Super7 produced was the Cobra mothership, and that failed to get crowd-funded.
>>11723976>>11723977That tank was such a nice vehicle. Not perfect, and there's plenty of things I'd love to mod on it, but they put so much detail into it and the whole thing just looks and feels fantastic. >>11723990I don't know about lower prices, that tank was like $80 when it came out and that was long before prices collectively shot to the moon. The Slave 1 was about $150 and that's pretty comparable in size to the Classified HISS tank, which the Arctic version goes for about $200, so not too huge a difference. Maybe the smaller stuff would be cheaper, but the good, large vehicles are always gonna be expensive.
>>11724172>Maybe the smaller stuff would be cheaperif classified was in the old scale, everyone would be complaining that the standard figures are 20 dollars each and the faces would all look worsevery little about the discourse would change other than having more vehicles and figure multi-packs but I could never go back to ugly baroness figures again
>>11724323>I could never go back to ugly baroness figures againThey only got ONE right since the 1984 original (Rattler). That's a sad track record. Well Rattler Baroness, Snow Cat Lady Jaye, and Zanya have attractive faces, so hopefully we're in the light at the end of that long dark tunnel.
>>11724793Oh fucking hell no. GI Joe just doesn't work in any live-action format. It comes across as goody "Star Wars tech" but on earth. And general audiences just don't give a shit about all the constant ninja cutaway scenes.
>>11724793let me guess>cobra commander is barely present or not in it at all>storm shadow and baroness are the main villains>snake eyes and scarlett get the most focus on the Joe side
>>11724805>goody*goofy.
>>11724806>ninjas everywhere>laser guns>the females are 5/10 plain-Janes to "fight male gaze">race-flipped characters instead of going with pre-existing Black characters (looking at Ripcord)>corny storyline that avoids parallels to real-life globalist terror cults out to rule the world so people like Bilderbergs, WEF, and Rothschilds don't get uncomfortable>no authentic effort at all to pay homage to the source material>modern everything for modern audiences>Duke is some guy from India>General Hawk played by Idris Elba>Scarlett played by the "THEY HERE" Star Wars girl
>>11724813I think they could probably do some cool episodic movies about specific joes vs. specific cobras, but they'll just want to do an overstuffed avengers knockoff off the top of my head, and it might be controversial, but I'd start with cover girl getting recruited into the joes when she's doing her modeling shit and ends up accidentally discovering zarana is one of the other models and has plans to hold billionaire fashion executives hostage with a bunch of the other dreadnoks and it would be sort of an action comedy version of atomic blondeit would at least be something different, and you could just do that with any of them except fucking Snake Eyes because they clearly couldn't resist making him Asian again
>>11724793Yea, bringing in a known rapist to helm a GI Joe movie is gonna be worse than having SE with his helmet off and talking. Danny's I would watch though.
>>11724817 One of the better G.I.Joe t.v. series was Strike Back and I think that it would work well like that with a rotating focus on Joe teams. The episodes would be mostly self contained but might have bits of an ongoing arc or two. Anyone who played with Joes is old and I'm sure they wouldn't mind a bit of "adult" content. Holy shit, look at the Predator, Alien and Rambo toys that were sold. Only Chad and Karen might protest - but nostalgia (or the desire to complain about the show) would suck them in.
>>11724865>Anyone who played with Joes is old and I'm sure they wouldn't mind a bit of "adult" content.Metal Gear Solid filled that void.
>>11724793That's the stupidest thing I've heard today. >>11724813>I'm okay with some Ninjas, but they should never bet the focus>Damn right, and they better change color when someone from the other side uses em.>Plainjanes are best Janes>Why in the hell did they use Ripcord to begin with?>Corny stories are what G.I. Joe should be. >Authenticity doesn't sell to the masses despite the masses asking for authenticity. >They better have Joe-Pros>Eh, they're 2 for 2 on hot Scarletts, I ain't worried>>11724817It would certainly be a choice to make a G.I. Joe film that centers around a female character, I can already see rightoids having a fit over that idea. Cover Girl would probably even be their best bet, but only on the condition that she gets to actually drive some sort of tank. If she ain't behind the stick of some heavily armored equipment then she ain't being Covergirl. >>11724865The fact that to most people "adult" just means gore, boobs and dirty words is exactly why G.I. Joe shouldn't be aiming for the "adult" audiences. The cartoonish characters are the most endearing part of G.I. Joe, if you start getting "real" and "gritty" and "adult" with it you're just walking away from the thing that made the franchise great. I don't want G.I. Joe to be "adult", I want it to be good.
>>11725036>but only on the condition that she gets to actually drive some sort of tank. If she ain't behind the stick of some heavily armored equipment then she ain't being Covergirl.her driving a tank through fashion week would be pretty killer
Damn, this doesn't look bad at all
>>11725087....a G.I. Joe tank crashing through a Barbie Fashion show is something straight out of the 80s. Now I wanna see this movie.
>>11725222A touch unhinged
>>11725197I already got that shotgun from one of the weapon packs, I have no reason to buy this fake Davey Jones PotC figure
>>11725036>I don't want G.I. Joe to be "adult", I want it to be good.G.I.Joe was the epic parachute-out-of-the-explosion plane, guns everywhere but nobody actually gets shot, A-Team-level kinda-gunfights. I'd be perfectly happy with that kind of wholesome non-violence. there's no way modern Hollywood could pull that off though.did they ever do a live-action Serpentor? that whole bit would make a pretty cool movie, it's already a done-story. monuments, history, tech. oh no the villains win and make Serpentor, defeat him anyway with clever tactics, it writes itself.>>11724793how does two people write two scripts work? does that sound insane? is that like a The Love Boat episode where they flop between the A story and the B story?they don't need another movie, they need a Netflix series. episodes. "I am the Viper..."
>>11725283All I'm gonna say is that the Submarine Dog Fight sequence at the end of RoC was the most G.I. Joe thing ever put to live action film and if we got more of that and less brainwashed lover interest sister Baroness I'd be very happy. And they haven't done Serpentor yet, but he's very easily a "Third Film" villain, starting your franchise with him would pretty much be saying you don't want your films to be successful. >how does two people write two scripts work? does that sound insane?The idea of competeing script writers, or even having one finish the script and a second come after and "doctor" it up is completely normal for hollywood. The most absurd part of what they're doing is having two people write scripts and then they plan to *combine the two*. That's just a recipe for disaster and shows they have no idea what they're doing with this movie.
>>11725289I generally liked Retaliation more that Rise of Cobra, but both movies did need more big epic battles with lots of vehicles involved.And yes, Serpentor is a 'threat escalation' villain, it doesn't make any sense to start out with him, and we've never gotten beyond a second movie. Rise of Cobra had Cobra getting formed, Retaliation was their first big scheme. You either need to reach a point where Cobra Commander has failed several times and the other important Cobras want to replace him, or you go with the comic origin where Serpentor starts as a super-soldier project and Cobra Commander doesn't realize the implications of combining the DNA of history's greatest leaders until it's too late.The obvious end to that movie would be the Joes helping enable a Cobra Civil War and letting Cobra Commander sabotage Serpentor's scheme, if both survive, Cobra schisms into two more manageable factions, and potentially Destro walks away to start the Iron Grenadiers.
>>11724865I just watch military shows for that. Obviously Hasbro is scared to make adult stuff for GI Joe and want mainstream money like the Transformers bring them. we wont get a serious Ninja/World Terrorists with crazy Snake Themed Weapons/Delta Force GI Joe movie that is like Strike Back. if we scale back on the wackiness then its not really GI Joe anymore. I dont want cartoonish stuff only, but the two movies were about as far as we'd get in terms of seriousness.
I ordered some stuff from Gridiron for my Joes but it's been over a month now and no shipment. Anyone know how long this takes, is it just one guy or something?
>>11725377Sometimes when you're dealing with "boutique brands," shit's made to order.
>>11725377Just accessories? Probably should drop them a line and see what's up.
>>11725377It's right there on their site, bro.
I hope we get a Classified Serpentress some day, even if I know it'll never happen
>>11725450I didn't know there was a female version. Is there a back-story to her?
>>11725289That just seems to be the MO for Hasbro movies. The last fee transformers movies, aside from Transformers One, have been disasters cobbled together from multiple scripts being bashed together. The fifth transformers movie is such a mess, it was made from like six different scripts all with ideas that don't go together, and it's painfully apparent while watching.Can't wait for the same thing to happen to G.I. Joe!
>>11725461Baroness after being badly burned in the same plane crash that put the Cobra Commander out of action. she takes over Cobra and allies with the Decepticons to form DeceptiCobra
Red Shadows on display at some con
>>11725494>Baroness taking over as both Cobra Commander and Serpentor Ok. I'm wanting this figure now.
>>11725515Looking good, post more of them
>>11725552That's the only pic I've seen. BigBadWorkshop has a video up on their facebook of the display, and you can see the rest of the wave in the next cabinet.
>>11725494>>11725450I can see why Hasbro never bothered making that one in figure form
>>11725328I hated Retaliation none of the characters were G.I. Joes, they were generic army men. The Rock just played The Rock, Flint did nothing and Lady Jaye, a master of disguise, had her disguise be a fancy dress. And then they pull in "Joe Colton" and it's the literal baldest man on the planet. Cobra was great, I loved how Cobra Commander just had a swagger about him the entire time. The bumbling snake of the cartoons just wouldn't work in film, so CC having some charisma and confidence was a nice touch. Only thing about Cobra I didn't like was not recasting Zartan, I know he was in disguise the whole time, but having him drop it for the action scene at least would've been nice.But yea, if they ever do Serpentor, I'd prefer the Comic version. Making Cobra revolt against CC because he keeps failing really killed him as an antagonist in the cartoons. Having that arc spin off into a Cobra Civil War movie would be sweet. >>11725346Joe needs to ride that line between silly and serious. If it can't do that it'll never catch on. >>11725377I ordered a small turret piece for the Vamp and that took about a month. 3D printing stuff like that takes time, especially if it's a bigger item. That said, getting that one piece put me off getting any more. Not because it's bad quality mind you, it's probably one of the nicest 3D prints I've seen. But it's still very clearly 3D printed, and having a whole vehicle like that would annoy me to no end. >>11725466It's the dude they have producing everything, they're running these films like some sort of tax scam. That dude's filmography is just a massive list of meh films and pure schlock. >>11725515Probably Zolocon, that's the big toy event happening this weekend. These guys look great and I may finally bite the bullet on this line.
>>11725494Did Herb Triple draw this?
>>11725552>>>11725515
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>>11725688So this is the Action Force version of Destro?
>>11725686Tom Scioli
>>11725693A reimagined version of him, to make him a bit more distinct.
>>11725709That's the only foreign Joe that I want.
>>11725687>>11725515>Have to buy three of these to make the one you wantBut it is... one I want
>>11725666>I hated Retaliation none of the characters were G.I. Joes, they were generic army men.You make some fair points on the Joes and Zartan, in particular The Rock and Bruce Willis were just playing their usual screen personas. Lady Jaye's disguises may have been weak compared with the disguises she uses in the comics and cartoons, but there are other reasons to appreciate her movie wardrobe in those scenes. It's mainly the Cobra stuff and the ninja fight (dialogue-free, like a silent issue comic) that I liked it for.>But yea, if they ever do Serpentor, I'd prefer the Comic version. Making Cobra revolt against CC because he keeps failing really killed him as an antagonist in the cartoons.In fairness, cartoon Cobra Commander was that guy the rest of Cobra's high command openly disliked and most of them had already tried overthrowing him at least once, only for the status quo to return by the end of the story, so them finally having had enough of him after 50+ consecutive failures wasn't implausible, and he was frequently the direct cause of their defeats. Changing the internal power dynamics of Cobra shook things up and refreshed the show. Putting Cobra Commander into the Starscream role is a little on the nose given they shared the same voice actor, but it's not exactly the same as he's the former leader trying to get his old job back.I like both versions of Serpentor, but doing the comic version means you'd need an actor who's not just tall and jacked enough for the role, but also maxed out his charisma stats.
>>11725746I'm okay with having to get two and doing some headswaps so they stay away from hasbro's legal department, but putting that helmet with the Legionnaire was just pure shit. Especially since that's the one guy you can't turn into a generic red shadow trooper wtih the wolf skin poking through the uniform in places. I passed on it and will live without the helmet.
>>11725775>but putting that helmet with the Legionnaire was just pure shit.Yeah that's the fucked up partIt could have been packaged with literally anything else but this is just to make people buy a zombie werewolf
>>11725461It's basically Baroness from a non canon acid trip Joe/TF crossover mini who took over Cobra with Destro's help after CC was left for dead after disfiguring Snakr Eyes presumed dead at the start of the mini.It came out around the time the woketards at IDW also had Baroness as CC (wearing his hood) in the main GI Joe comic after they got rid of the Asian guy who took over as CC after chuckles killed the original one, off camera as far as forced synergy.
https://youtu.be/Zw-n3YAXflkAs someone who collects many different lines, I'm always in awe of single franchise collectors
>>11725973>single franchise collectorsI'd have more if I did that, but I just have too many interests to be able to settle on only collecting one single line.
>>11726017I couldn't help myself; I could only collect one line. There is too much to get. I'm digging Monster Force and Vala, despite being a jackass, has some good figures and vehicles. I plan on getting two of the spy figures, the Bigfoot, and the blue agent that totally doesn't have a Cobra hood.
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>>11726049Nice fire effect
>>11726049Oh, no no no bros. He bought the Soccer mom battle SUV.
>>11726049They really have to re-do the Cobra troopers to conceal those ugly pins.
>>11726052https://youtu.be/BX6KrC-PHcQ?si=EJFYsA7hyvDgjXpY
>>11726052I like it. try more dynamic angles and up close shots when it would work
>>11726304Searching the archive here and on Reddit it looks like most people use crates or something like a paper clip box or other office supplies painted or with cobra decals, etc. to store excess weapons. And it looks like most people dump weapons in baggies instead of desperately? Was thinking just sorting so all knives in one bag, etc. And then all in one plastic tub? And I guess I should take them out every six/twelve months over the plasticizer issue, or is that just painted stuff, like heads, not plastic which is black or gray out of the mold, like most weapons are?
>>11726763you air out the bag or box for any plasticizer issues. Leave it open for a couple of hours and then close it up.
>>11725973completely soullessTroopers are mostly the same. Little variety, but that's modern GI Joe for you.No story in 99% of the displays.Poses are boring. Straight up and down or copypasted over and over.I'll give him credit for at least trying to army build in 1:12, but his collection is exactly why i don't.
>>11726780When it comes to display the 1:12 can't compete simply because of the vehicles and playsets. But more power to those who want to army-build anyway.
>>11726780Bitch-ass Hasbro needs to do the v.2 Alley Viper in Classified.
>>11726790agreed, that, eel v2 and toxo viper v2 are my big wants out of this line; at least we seem to be inching closer to them
>>11726803>eel v2The robot shark would completely make the animal sidekick price-point worth it.>toxo viper v2Now, do they include the Toxo-Zombie head, or do a minor retool and release it as a con exclusive?
>>11726823unfortunately they’d probably make it a deluxe with alt heads and swappable zombie bits, or maybe a 2 pack with a regular and a zombified one
>>11726783It's not even vehicles and playsets, but character selection too.There's a bazillion figures out there in 1:18 and the variety is second to none.I only wish that there were more DC figures in 1:18.
>>11726780https://youtu.be/KJzhvfkqct4At least he changes out the main display once a month though
>>11726780>Troopers are mostly the same. Little variety, but that's modern GI Joe for you.nigga you posted a picture with 20 of the same figure and 2 of the same vehicle
>>11727146Yeah like... I wasn't sure if they were posting an example of someone doing the exact same thing they were talking about but with the old toys?
>>117271467 different figures, all uniquely molded, and it's not even a dent of the variety of figures that GI Joe had in the 80s.And despite there being 7 different figures, their theme fits together as an urban assault team.You can see a story going on in a compact space!It's soulful AND high budget.Whereas today they just redeco a Viper, give him a few transparent accessories, call him paranormal, and charge you a premium for that. Budget as fuck.
>>11727174>7 different figures, all uniquely molded, and it's not even a dent of the variety of figures that GI Joe had in the 80s.>And despite there being 7 different figures, their theme fits together as an urban assault team.You can see a story going on in a compact space!>It's soulful AND high budget.You could do this exact shot with classified, using alley vipers, crimson vipers, two stingers or whatever, etc. and the only difference would be the space>Whereas today they just redeco a Viper, give him a few transparent accessories, call him paranormal, and charge you a premium for that. Budget as fuck.plus the 10 other vipers that are uniqueare you suggesting flat palette swap figures are exclusive to classified?and I would've preferred if the ghost viper WAS just a neon green retro viper with a skull painted on the helmet, I don't really give a shit about the extra crap or the new piecesare you really that same fag who once posted that pic of 3.75 inch cobras having a meeting with 3.75 in red skull and shit and you acted like that wasn't possible with classified and I made the exact same pic with classified and marvel legends 15 minutes later?
>>11727174A full Classified HISS crew alone has six uniquely sculpted figures, all in matching color scheme. ARAH had plenty of part reuse and recolors, especially in latter years, but it had the advantage of coming out during one of the largest toy booms in recorded history so they could toss out tons of new figures constantly. I love me some ARAH stuff, and I have a decently large ME 1:18 collection, but Classified is probably some of the best per figure Joes we've ever gotten, it's certainly a quality over quantity situation. The larger sculpt makes each figure far more detailed and impressive to look at, they don't need numbers to make a kick ass display as each figure alone is a work of art (except that first Falcon, he was shit). This pic >>11727174 is a perfect example of what's wrong with 1:18 displays. Without tons of accessories and dio pieces and vehicles and playsets, the figures just come off as stiff and boring and are hard to make out unless you get super close. If this were a 1:12 display, you could use less and get a greater effect. It would make better use of he space, have better visual draw and not feel nearly as stiff as those figures look.
>>11727197>You can see a story going on in a compact space!an entire table is the only place i saw a story going on, and that's not really compact. Tables are giant, like pic related.>are you suggesting flat palette swap figures are exclusive to classified?No, but most of the figures in that guy's collection are redecos, because that makes up too large of a majority of the Classified line. With the 80s/90s line, most of the figures aren't redecos.Redecos in the 25th+ line looked far more unique and it's hard to tell most of the time, unlike Classified, because there were more molds being used due to having a higher budget> you acted like that wasn't possible with classified and I made the exact same pic with classified and marvel legends 15 minutes later?You missed the point, which was that you can fit the entire scene in a quarter of the space. Of course popular characters exist in both scales, but what you can do is more limited in 1:12.Again, take pic for instance. You can fit an aircraft carrier, having multipe battles going on in smaller area than the table in that video. There's more story going on, due to the scale... and the fact that vehicles like this exist due to the scale.>>11727122i feel bad giving him views, because it's so soulless and /feels/ fake because of that. The suggested video actually looks like he's having fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xflg_R64XOA
>>11724793>Max LandisDOA
Target SoCalThese aren't even for me - but for one of you fuckers in the boonies.
So now we're just pretending the O-ring era didn't swap parts or do repaints, huh.Nevermind the fact that SE was a masterclass in laziness, because they purposefully wanted him to be all black so they could put out a figure that was totally bare black plastic, with no painted details.
>>11727281Except the painted rivets.
>>11727244It's not for me either. For me the movie with the bug-people was the big downturn for GI Joe. >>11727281No one cared about parts recycling. People only care when Hasbro charges $60 for a kitbash figure that's only available at around 10% of all Walmarts.
>>11723979I will forever hate this destro for killing the line in my area.
>>11727244Im in so IL and it's for me. I just like the looks of it, kinda like dbk from kdm.
>>11727236>i feel bad giving him views, because it's so soulless and /feels/ fake because of that.Does anyone else know what this guy means by this?
>>11727438No. He's just babbling.
>>11727438Because so much of his army looks identical, it like it's just overstock that he was given to advertise the toyline.I'm used to seeing armies made up of dozens of different types of figures from someone collecting the line for many years. Since Classified is made up of mostly redecos, it looks a store display made up of a single wave. Like, you have Hankeyfaced Guys, you have Vipers, you have TeleVipers, you have more Vipers, Hankyfaced Men, you have Iron Grenadiers, some Vipers in another Color, Vipers with accessories, Hankyfaced Men, Hankyfaced Guys, some Hankeyfaced Soldiers, and then Hankyfaced Soldiers. Soulless.So many redecos of the same type of soldier that it blends together. And then to make it worse, his grouping is identical from shelf to shelf, making it monotonous to look at. Even less soul.Obviously, I'm talking about the Cobra army.Also, why does he have so many HISS tank drivers? And why are so many of them holding the gun from their stock? It makes it look like the display was actuallly set up by GI Joe's brand manager.
>>11727566That guy has a killer collection. The number of Rattlers he has explains why so many sold off Wild Weasel and Baroness. He has an obvious preference for the BAT, but that's not surprising. The 1986 original has the distinction of being the most valuable "army builder" in the original line.
>>11727566No he was asking if other people knew what you meant, he wasn't asking you to clarify
I wasn't really paying attention to see if anyone has already said this, but no this head doesn't fit on Classified figures
>>11727566>It's souless because he puts specialized groups together instead of mixing everything That's a very interesting way of looking at it
>>11725973.......why are his HISS drivers holding their guns by their buttstocks?Impressive collection quantity wise, but I hate how he has each individual figure army built on their own shelves. Like, instead of each HISS tanking having the full Driver/Gunner/Commander crew with the Officer/Trooper/Range Viper/Techno Viper support squad....he just has entire shelves of HISS Tank drivers....holding their gun wrong. >>11727566It's certainly a choice to blame the figures for his boring display and not the austist for displaying his collection autistically. It's not a correct choice mind you, but it's certainly A choice.
>>11727589it's fine, but it's inherently soulless.Something like this pic looks more interesting, because despite being the same shit, there's variety by being smaller and looks more like it's part of a bigger scene.>>11727661you call him autistic, but i doubt he is considering they're holding their guns from their stock. Someone who's autistic would notice little details like that being completely wrong........................................................ Guy's just an Emily.And his figure selection is like he bought whatever was laying around on the stores. So he has no techno vipers to work with dr Mindbender or on the mechs, because they werent available at Ross. He has a billion HISS tank drivers because China accidently made too many and they were offloading them for $2 on aliexpress. Completely soulless.There's a lot of bulk purchases, but not a lot of thought. It doesn't look like he had fun massing everything together.
>>11727710This is just making up schizo fan fiction about someone
>>11727737>>11727589>>11727661>>11727710You girls sure been having a ball, the last few days, with your sewing circle and all ...
>>11727582>no this head doesn't fit on Classified figuresWhat a waste. It's useless to me then. >>11727710Needs BATs. Black Major makes a ton in different styles.
Super7 really does make a great BAT in all regards except the color. They're just openly refusing to give us a black or even dark-gray one. They're stubborn as fuck, and are being stupid with fighting against what customers want to give them money for.
>>11727817I like the o ring line but worry their character choices are going to kill it off long before they get around to the popular characters or the cartoon bat
>>11727710So sterile and boring. Might as well put them in a glass case with price tags.
>>11727819Yeah they're really fucking around, and its pissing people off. Plus we should have had the Baroness and Dreadnoks by now. But they do what Hasbro often does with "IF YOU WANT US TO MAYBE EVENTUALLY GET TO WHAT YOU WANT THEN YOU'LL BUY THE SHIT YOU DON'T WANT TO KEEP THE LINE GOING." Plus their refusal to do vehicles beyond a failed crowd-funded Cobra mothership.
What's everyones Cobra Commander on their shelf?
Here's a half-assed photoshop of what the BAT would look like if they would get the colors right.
>>11727829The only two CCs I have are the retro-carded one and a Black Major repro in dark blue instead of the light blue the Hasbro version came in. I like it better in a darker shade of blue, and only the hooded version originally came in that color, which matches perfectly with the Classified version
>>11727829I don't have one because I don't give a fuck about Joe lore. That shit is goofy as fuck. I just get the more realistic military guys.
>>11727839I never picked this one up, only the regal and armoured, but I swap them out every so often. I want that hooded agent as a CC proxy.
>>11727840Well aren't you a big bag of happy-sunshine-fun? The cartoon-derived stuff is great, and my personal favorites in the line.
>>11727842I was planning on getting "hooded agent" up until a poster said the head's not compatible with Classified. With retro-card CC being cheap at Ross now, it was a motivator to get another one to do a head-swap with, but that motivator is gone now.
>>11727843Why engage? No one posts like that unless they want you to reply.>>11727845The figure itself is a good suited CC. All of MF and that stuff scale perfectly.
>>11727846My plan was the hood on retro-card CC, and the suit with a Tomax or Xamot head for one of them in their "Executive Enterprises" suit. That plan got shot to hell.
>>11727843Imagine, getting so offended by some random anonymous posters tastes that you made a little passive aggressive reply. Lmao, who hurt you?
>>11727851Post like a woman, get called out.
>>11727852The only woman like post here is the one where you got offended that I don't care about the cartoon. Go tell my manager I'm not collecting my toys right Karen. Best part is, I didn't even bash you or anyone else for liking. I personally just think it's goofy.
>>11727854Lol, triggered.
>>11727851I didn't get offended. To each his own. The cartoon-derived stuff is in the line because there's different collectors with different collecting angles. To me stuff like pimp-daddy Destro and Cold Slither keep the line fun. But the realistic-military stuff is cool, too. Three of my top-ten favorites so far have been the "Action Marine Sniper," the cop, and the coming "Special Forces Action Soldier."
>>11727857That's cool. Like I said, I didn't even disparage those who do like the cartoon. Just said I don't. But then you had to get your panties wadded and get all pissy because I don't like the same toys you do. >>11727856Post hand
>>11727858Bruh, it's hilarious how rustled you got.
>>11727859If you say so saar
>>11727858>But then you had to get your panties wadded and get all pissy because I don't like the same toys you do.Show me where I did that. You're just starting ANOTHER pointless argument. Calm down, bro. It's all 100% opinions.
>>11727860>>11727863She just comes out of nowhere, acting like a cunt, then cries when called out.
>>11727863The part where you said I must be, and I quote, "a big bag of happy-sunshine-fun". Now I can't imagine why you would call me such a thing in such a passive aggressive way if my original statement didn't bother you in some capacity. But hey lil bro, you do you. No need to get all bitchy.
>>11727840>I don't give a fuck about Joe lore. That shit is goofy as fuck.Like you started with this and act like you're innocent. I get it, no dick makes you a bitch. But if you want to act like that, don't be surprised if you get a response.
>>11727868So much for not being offended I guess? All I said was that I don't care about Joe lore. I guess I should've added "I think" to the "it's goofy as fuck" part but I figured you mongrels would be able to figure out by context clues I was only referring to my own opinions, my mistake. I shouldn't assume you guys could at a 2nd grade reading level.
>>11727870Womp womp girly.
>>11727871Not now Timmy, the adults are talking.
>>11727865If you didn't catch the light-hearted humorous aspect to that then you're just a rotten miserable person. At any rate, I am doing like in topics past and will just hide your posts from now on.
>>11727865>No replyYeah, I thought so. I hate having to share a hobby with such thin skinned, limp wristed, noodle armed losers. I originally wasn't insulting you faggots. Now I am. Get your shit together.
>>11727882>I was just joking guysOh yeah. Sure you were. Get your shit together bro.
>>11727884This is an 18+ site, and most here aren't used to dealing with teenage girls like you.
>>11727890Says the anon who got offended that I don't like a cartoon from 40 years ago.
>>11727825the funny thing is that crowdfund likely could have succeeded had they just waited to do it until after they started the o ring line too
>>11727891Your still being a bitch. Why shouldn't we call out bitches?At this point, I am feeling bad how much we are dog walking you.
>>11727893It was $495. It didn't stand a chance. Yeah it came with a lot, but at the end of the day you need $495 in disposable cash to back it, which scared off lots of potential customers.
>>11727898I really don’t think the price was the issue, expensive toys sell all the time. It was that the audience was basically exclusively o-ring oldheads who’ve been collecting for 20 years and mostly are only interested in vintage stuff, had they built to it with a bunch of other new o-ring stuff it likely could have gotten made eventually by attracting new collectors, but making bad decisions is just sort of what S7 does.
>>11727895If you insist lil bro.
>>11727898was this shit even compatible with modern 1:18?Because who cares about bootleg vintage shit, because genuine vintage shit is barely holding on.
>>11727904The problem was the price. Do I want to spend $500 on this, or do I want to spend that on a vintage Terrordrome with Firebat? There is such a thing as having prices so high that it makes vintage collectors evaluate whether buying something vintage or buying something brand new is a better deal. I ran into that problem with the Ghost Viper. While trying to find it, I evaluated whether or not it was worth it. I ended up with a 1985 Crimson Guard and Buzzer for the same money instead. That's why it's stupid to push prices. Vintage collectors will absolutely buy new stuff, but if you price shit too high, then they'll be looking at the holes in their vintage collections instead. Of course there are exceptions like Rattler Baroness. I don't expect Hasbro will ever make one as nice as that one again, and it's not gonna get any cheaper. It briefly got knocked down to around $120 for it when Ebay was flooded with them, but it's since nudged its way back up to $150.
>>11727919Dammit forgot pic.>>11727910>because genuine vintage shit is barely holding on.That's true but not true. It's true for the easy to find stuff, but for shit like firebats, 1986 BAT, 1982-1984 Cobra Commander, Storm Shadow, Zartan, Firefly, 1985 Snake Eyes, etc. the prices have yet to and probably won't come down any time soon.
Here's what the R+ O-ring SE would look like in black.
>>11727920>the prices have yet to and probably won't come down any time soon.compared to when? 5 years ago? Because when i first started paying up for vintage toys, they used to be much higher. From 1998 til 2010, prices were going up and up and up. After that, prices went down.Figures like Storm Shadow were going for upwards of $800 and now you can only get that price with those graded scams.Around 2021, prices started dropping dramatically for everything.... hence me turning to buying old shit, because now its worth it. Only just vehicles though, because it's the only part of vintage GI Joe that holds up.Stuff like pic still holds up extremely well. It still looks futuristic. It looks like it can do its job in a realistic fashion (ignoring the open turret) AND it's compatible with modern 1:18.
>>11728187also, i find it funny that people are posting vintage shit so much now.Back in the day, NOBODY was posting their o-ring shit. Not even their Venom Vs Valor/SpyTroopers figures that were 3-8 years old at that point. Tons and tons of photos every day/week, and you might get a single person posting an o-ring figure once every half year.The pull for modern GI Joe back then was so strong nobody cared about anything else. Now people it seems like it's dying worse than it did when GI Joe was canceled in the mid-10s, since they're getting rid of their collections at discounted prices.
>>11727920It's over.
Reminder not to take Subjectanon's bait seriously. His entire "argument" boils down to>I like 1/18 better than 1/12 so I'll pretend everything 1/12 is shit and claim black is white to back it upHe only posts here to derail discussions, because that is all he does, especially on generals about things he doesn't like. He will start a vendetta/hobby horse about [X] and will bring it up at every possible opportunity, making it impossible to have an actual discussion because even if you ignore him he will keep responding to posts, driving up the image and reply count until someone responds, and will then derail it completely. He will do this in every single thread until eventually people either tip-toe around certain topics to try and avoid setting him off (which doesn't work as he's doing it on purpose) or abandon the thread due to his constant shitposting. Eventually the thread slows to a crawl or dies completely, and he will claim the general is dead because the toyline/company it's about sucks/is unpopular and he was always right, when the truth is his constant trolling antics made it unusable.Unfortunately short of him copping a rangeban for persistently making the board worse, or having a much deserved heart attack from eating nothing but mystery meat hamburgers, we can't actually get rid of him. The only real solution is to openly mock him and refute his points whilst also making it clear we know what he's trying to do; he's too much of a narcissist to accept he can ever be wrong, but he'll at least make a fool of himself.
>>11728462>sublime projecting from Warhammer 40k fanboy who's butthurt no one is posting in the WH40k thread anymore due to Joytoy's constant fuck ups but wants to blame a random anon for everyone giving up on Joytoy's turdsThe GI Joe General used to be the most chill thread on this board until faggots like you showed up.You can tell most people here actually enjoy GI Joe, because most everyone is actually knowledgeable about the comics, cartoons, and/or the toylines since the 80s. GI Joe is one of the most enjoyable series on /toy/, even if people disagree about what they like best about it.
>>11728462He’s a pariah and should be publicly drawn and quartered.
>>11728479>Warhammer and JoyToy out of the blue yet again. Holy shit. I legit feel bad for you Warhammer bros. I'd be interested in toys from that IP if your resident schizo poster wasn't so insane.
>>11728187>Figures like Storm Shadow were going for upwards of $800 and now you can only get that price with those graded scams.For MOC? That's cheap in comparison to what they sell for now. And people do get them graded to try to preserve condition. Ungraded ones sell for around $2000 now. >Venom Vs Valor/SpyTroopers figuresThose figures were fucking stupid. See:>>11724481No one bragged about owning those. The only highlights were some decent vehicles. >>11728479I really need to get Major Bludd and Scrap Iron for my vintage collection. I'm still rebuilding it after having to sell it all off a decade ago.
>>11728214It'll get a repaint. It was made for that purpose. Be patient. Hasbro runs slow.
>>11728486don’t let a lone autist ruin your enjoyment of things anon
I didn't see it myself, but supposedly this showed upon HasbroPulseEU briefly earlier today. Looks they they are going to do USA 250th paint schemes like super7 is doing.
>>11728749I wonder if it'll be the same characters. IF they do Lady Jaye, I hope they use a different head sculpt instead of the fuck-ugly ones they've had so far.
>>11728850As a reference
>>11728858The Lady Jaye one is the only halfway decent one, and her classified mold is shit, so it would look terrible if they copied if over anyway.
>>11728979I like the Falcon, has a Street Fighter the movie AN uniform look to it.
>>11728979That Lady Jaye at the least has a better sculpt than the 1985 original does, and looks more like the actual character. I hope it doesn't take ages to get it in cartoon colors.
>>11728479>Warhammer out of nowhere
>>11728500>unpunched>also unsoldOf course, I'm talking about back then money, which is about $1500 today. If you look at how much carded SSs go for today, it's ~$800. Loose prices also used to be insane back then, especially in the 90s, before eBay showed everyone who common these toys actually were.>Those figures were fucking stupidI agree, but so are most of the vintage shit people like. Even the 80s Joes have aged poorly. But people talk fondly and even want new toys to look as bad as them, hence Super7's GI Joe o-ring figures, and Mattel's nostalgiafag HeMan and Playmate's nostalgiafag TMNT lines.Anyway, back then, modern GI Joes were all people wanted. Now it's all scattered around and too many fans leaving>I really need to get Major Bludd and Scrap Iron for my vintage collectionI'll never get nostalgiafags (i grew up in the 80s, btw and my first toyline i remember wanting was the original he-mans but then moved onto TMNT and GI Joe). And you'd be better off with Hasbro's remastered comic packs or his other re-release (why did bludd never get one? maybe his old mold was too awful). They didn't improve on the sculpt, like other remastered figures, but at least the paint is better.>>11729105not out of nowhere. The shitposter is from the WH40k thread and is trying to get revenge because i criticized the line for really bad QC. he does this shit in other threads he thinks i go to too.
Are the fist doom troopers any good? They're 10 bucks now
>>11729129>not out of nowhere. The shitposter is from the WH40k thread and is trying to get revenge because i criticized the line for really bad QC. he does this shit in other threads he thinks i go to too.You're fucking crazy.
>>11729131i bought one and it's as good as the classified or Marvel Legends figures.Just know that the figures they advertise are painted up prototypes, while the production figures feature less paint. But it's on par with Classified and MLs.
>>11729143Thanks!
Anyone remember the codename they used for Night Viper? Hit n Run was Callie and Mole Rat was Felina. What was NV's?
>>11729153Just know that I didn't collect more, because I prefer 1:18, but that Doom Trooper is a perfect army builder. Lots of cool weapons, which is why i bought him in the first place, and the other figures in the line looked better.Pretty sad that the line didn't do better, especially since one the creators said he'd have prefered to have made it in 1:18, but due to market conditions, ended up in 1:12. I'd have army built the shit out of all the orcs.met him at comic con two or three years ago.
>>11729131....not really no. They are like bad Marvel Legends from over a decade ago but with even worse proportions and paint. I got one and it was a fiddly, awkward, loose mess and couldn't even hold it's weapons properly. For $10, I don't think they're horrible, but they're certainly not something I'd want to spend more money on, especially when so many other good lines exist. I mean, I love the idea of Army Men Orcs and all, but I have far too tight a budget and far too little space to waste on figures that are, at best, disappointing.If you're curious, I'd say buy one and see how you like it, but don't go building yourself a green fire team right out the gate.
Idk he kinda sucks
>>11729250With all that texturing, he really needs a wash or something. Kinda looks like a goofy, plasticy MOTU figure as-is.
Really awkward to get him into a natural standing pose, and he's kinda knock-kneed.>>11729251Exactly what I was thinking. Doesn't match Pythona and Nemesis as well as I'd hope. Wouldve sacrificed all the extra swap out parts for a cheaper figure with a wash.
>>11729250way too expensive for what it is, also 4 heads and only 1 set of hands, hasbro is so fucking stupid
>>11729255Yeah I hate what they've been doing with hands lately. Lack of options for a lot of characters, huge trigger fingers for characters that don't need them, vertical hinges on wrists, all very bad decisions imo.
>>11723979I had this Destro as a kid. I found him out of his packaging in walmart and just stole him. I think he had all his accesories? Not sure he had a backpack and some ice shit. I believe I also had the stand which is kinda crazy to think about. I was kind of a dumb kid so I didn't realize they were selling it and just tought someone had dropped their toy and took it.
>>11729161Don't know. Does anyone have a clearer image of this? >>11729251>>11729253Then do a paint wipe or paintwash yourself. It really isn't hard. >>11729255>4 heads and only 1 set of hands, hasbro is so fucking stupidArmy-builders. 4 heads is an excuse for people to collect and display four distinct royal guards.
>>11729386Thanks for that, Anon. Looks like Razor.
>>11729407One of the two with pets is no doubt Doctor Lobster with dino-buddy. One of the two Legacy ones is that killer special forces soldier. At any rate it shows how much Hasbro fucks with customers with giving two of them female names (Callie-Hit&Run and Felina-Mole Rat) and a female a male name (Dexter-female CG), which makes it impossible to guess.
>>11729386>Then do a paint wipe or paintwash yourself. It really isn't hard.The consumer shouldn't have to be doing the jobs of the factory workers, considering the modern prices we're paying for this shit.Stop defending the lazy, cheap tactics of billion dollar corpos.
>>11729577They went for a cartoon look. That's obvious by the color palette. That doesn't bother me one bit. However if it bothers you then there's a simple fix.
>>11729264 He came with a drill that gets used every time I'm doing "Thing" related pics. as well as a "ice gun" that you could fill up with water. (which would of course freeze if you used it in the cold. ) and some "ice" that would be used to "freeze" people. - clipped around their leg or wrist. I used one of the extra bodies for this guy. (I honestly forget whose head this is) as it looks "outdoorsy" as fuck. also I got a couple
>>11729662 The other one that has Shipwreck makes a passable " outdoor team" as I have 3 of those as well.
>>11729671We really need to go back to this scale so we can have a flood of vehicles again.
>>11729706 I only have a couple but I try and make good use of them. I just like this scale. As long as the figure is well designed and has the articulation. ( and sometimes I make allowances.). I have some other larger (and smaller) stuff and appreciate them but this is the scale I'm more comfortable with. Also, from what I've seen of the new Micronsuts - they are kind of disappointing.
This is just some piece of crap kids toy I actually found broken outside.But it's *close* to the right scale. It's fun.
>>11729767 Also, I just leave the damned thing on the balcony...re dust.
>>11729129>not out of nowhere. The shitposter is from the WH40k thread and is trying to get revenge because i criticized the line for really bad QC. he does this shit in other threads he thinks i go to too.Nice job outing yourself over what you were accused of, retard.
>>11729581>cartoon lookThat'd be fine if it was released on a retro card or something for a standard price, but this was a deluxe release in the same shiny box as Pythona and Nemesis, so it should match them aesthetically. It's obvious they blew the budget on a bunch of accessories that most people won't use.
>>11729706What makes you think we'd get any more vehicles then we're already getting? Even TVC doesn't get too many, and the few they do are large, high ticket price items. The figures themselves would still be in that $20-ish range, so the vehicles and larger packs would have similar costs, so the only real difference would be their size. That said, I'd kill for a HISS V that wasn't an exclusive or limited DTC release.
>>11729581>They went for a cartoon look>ultra detailed>realistic proportions>realistic sculpted head>nothing cartoony about the sculpt>but it's actually cartoony because they cheaped out on the paintretard logic>>11729916you're making up a piss weak excuse.Basically, Hasbro ripping off their customers is why they shouldn't make vehicles as affordable as companies like Mattel, Spinmaster, Mcfarlane, and even indie toy makers can?
>>11730028Cartoon look doesn't necessarily mean low detail. And if they're going for cartoon proportions then they have still yet to get there.
>>11730028Ah, so you want Hasbro to make cheap kiddy crap Joe vehicles. Sadly Joes never really work well as the cheap kiddy crap lines, especially with no catoons or movies to back it up. Joes are in a weird space where if they try to aim it at kids, the adults the franchise is popular with won't go for it, but if they make it for adults the kids don't care about it. Transformers, Star Wars and Marvel can all play both of those demographics really well, but Joes have trouble leaving it's core fanbase behind. Which is a shame, I feel if Joes fully embraced it's silly sci-fi nature a bit more, like the OG cartoon, it could work again. They can still do some more "serious war story" stuff, just disguise it under the veneer of cheesy laser shooting cartoon goodness.
>>11730120Hasbro made billions off of the "kiddy crap" in the 80s. And upward pressure on prices has already pushed kids out of Classified, and pushed a lot of adult collectors out too. There's nothing to be gained by shrinking the market.
>>11730135And they still make plenty of money from kiddy shit....from other franchises. But all the attempts to do that with G.I. Joe since the ARAH line ended haven't done very well. That said, if Hasbro decided to start dropping some "Actionverse" styled G.I. Joe toys, I'd definitely be in for some kiddy shit vehicles. The figures I'd probably skip, or bin if they were included, but I'm always up for cheap kiddy shit vehicles. Half my Joe motorpool is True Heroes stuff.
>>11730035If it's not cartoony like the GI Joe movie cartoon, what's even the point of giving it a cartoony paint job when the sculpt is the opposite of a cartoon?Saying a shitty paint job is for [i]a[/i] cartoon look is just a retard's cope.>>11730120>Sadly Joes never really work well as the cheap kiddy crap linesAre you even a GI Joe fan?GI Joe has had mountains of vehicles with negative undersides and hollow insides, which is actually worse than what we've seen from Spnmaster and McFarlane.And ADULTS love the old vehicles... or at least, they used to, because I'm getting the old vehicles at a steal now.Take away the insert figures on the Spinmaster and Mattel vehicles AND the gimmick, and you have a better budget on the vehicle. More moving parts on the vehicle, more individually molded parts so it's not just a single/dual tone pieced vehicle, and removable accessories.>>11730135kids still make up the majority of sales, unless some major report came out that no one has talked about? But otherwise, yeah, the market has definitely shrunk (for both kids and adults).
>>11730165>GI Joe has had mountains of vehicles with negative undersides and hollow insidesYea, during the ARAH days when kids were the primary audience. Now the line is very much aimed at adults and all the attempts to bring kids back just don't land. Sigma Six was the most popular "kids" Joe line after the ARAH line ended and it's generally "hated" by the fandom today. Again, Marvel, Star Wars and Transformers always have more child friendly options on the shelves along side their Legends, Black and TVC and Studio Series/Generations lines, but Joes only seem to have success these days with higher detailed, high quality figures and vehicles. Even during the ME stuff, when they tried to make cheaper stuff for Retaliation, with 5 POA figures and hollow, soft detailed vehicles, the fans (i.e. adults) revolted. I personally liked the Retaliation HISS tank, I got two, but it was a massive step back from the PoC version. And the Ghost Hawk II was *really* close to becoming a new classic Joe vehicle, but the awful drop gimmick killed any usefulness the dang thing had as a transport. After that they went back to vintage re-releases or higher quality updates to vehicles. Actual vintage vehicles have that built in nostalgia, so people still want them. But if Hasbro swerved G.I. Joe to be a straight up kids line again, I don't see anyone being happy with that change.
>>11730250>during the ARAH days when kids were the primary audience.they still are, unless you have some breaking news?>Sigma Six was the most popular "kids" Joe line after the ARAH line endedEverything you're saying is made up bullshit, huh?GI Joe Vs Cobra was waaaay more popular than Sigma 6, because it actually lasted from 2002 til 2006 and its continued success as the DTC line actually convinced Hasbro to keep making 1:18 figures until 2016. And the 25th+ GI Joe lines were even more popular than the GI Joe Vs Cobra lines, hence their budget increasing AND retailers giving it full support until Hasbro betrayed them by delaying the movie in 2012. That's the longest time GI Joe has had full retail support since the 90s.Sigma 6 was a complete bomb, hence dying in a year.The rest of your post is even more nonsense that proves you have no idea what you're talking about.Stop talking if you're just going to lie.
>>11730250The thing is they have to do something that panders to kids. Gen-X can't carry the line forever. They need to bring in a new fan base to keep the line going for the future. And that won't happen unless they dial back the prices to make it obtainable to kids. And that means adults eating a little crap with their adult expectations.
>>11730277>GI Joe Vs Cobra was waaaay more popular than Sigma 6, because it actually lasted from 2002 til 2006Ah yes, so successful they rebranded the line three times in four years with new gimmicks every year until the line all but died and the entire scale was put on "hiatus" as they moved to the 8" figures. Hell, the launch of Joe v Cobra was so incredibly polarizing that it pushed away a lot of old fans who hated the new sculpts (I was one of em) and was so cheap it featured multiple repaints of the same character within the same year. Far worse then anything we see today. Those years of Joes were so unpopular with retail chains, they stopped carrying the brand almost entirely and when Hasbro put out it's 25th ME stuff most stores barely ordered any. It wasn't until the ME stuff exploded in popularity...by relying on nostalgia and being aimed at adults who were fans of the franchise as kids (i.e. myself)...did G.I. Joe become relevant again. If the Joe V Cobra stuff was popular they never would've even tried the Sigma Six experiment. Now I'm not saying they didn't put out some good toys during that time, they had some fantastic vehicles dropping here and there. But it certainly wasn't a second coming of the brand and it never pushed the franchise back into the public consciousness outside of an already established fanbase. The two CG DTV films were decently popular (and lead directly to the Sigma Six cartoon) but that era as a whole was certainly not the Joe brand at it's best. >>11730279It's not the toy prices that keep kids away, it's the fact that kids *don't care* about the franchise. And why should they? There's no active cartoon or major motion picture or even popular video game to latch on to. *Maybe* Hasbro could whip up some sort of super fun kid focused line that would help popularize the franchise with a new audience, but Hasbro is notoriously bad at taking risks these days.
Do you guys like buckets?Do you like shitty designs? Do you like reuse?Well you're not gonna believe it
>>11730400ooof, you don't even know the history of GI Joe? Either you're a newfag or you're a third worlder.S6 only existed due to Walmart wanting a higher price point toyline, since they didn't like that Hasbro was selling their GI Joes for too cheap and Hasbro actually wanting to give kids more bang for their buck, hence increasing the size.The 1:18 line was never put on hiatus. TRU thought sales were so great that they wanted to continue carrying the toyline, so it became "Direct to Consumers" so that Hasbro could also sell it online, along with other stores. Lots of physical avenues, despite the "DTC" name, because retailers were very happy with its sales.So when Sigma 6 bombed, Hasbro's powered through that failure and retailers never stopped ordering more and more 1:18 GI Joe figuers because they were popular. So 2002-2012 was non-stop 1:18 GI Joes, leaving Sigma 6 to rot on WAlmart shelves in 2006. Remember this next time you post, so you don't sound like a newfag/third worlder who wasn't alive or in America in the 00s (possibly both?).And yes, popular toylines change their subline names. Transformers does it every year, sometimes running multiple sublines. Same with Star Wars.It attracts more attention that way. Hasbro sublines were named after their direct to video GI Joe movies. So 2003 was Spy Troopers. 2004 was Venom vs Valor. Sigma 6 incorporated the Robot and mutation storyline that they were doing after VvV, hence the 1:18 revamped BATS designs also showing up in S6.Pic of Hasbro's DTC night ops hmmv, which i bought at TRU. Pretty fucking amazing stuff and what adult collectors loved, despite being kiddy shit. Every review site back in the day praised the fuck out of it, which was basically just a redeco of the jungle and desert HMMV Hasbro released before.
>>11730507>killmonger cut in 2026First a slew of tranny looking female characters, now this. I thought Bobby was a rightwinger
>>11730400also, any source all your claims that it's older fans buying up GI Joes or is it just made up bullshit like your previous post?If older fans were even HALF of all sales, retailers/analysis companies/toy companies would be talking about this.Shit like that is pretty important.Last time i saw a link, adults were an important part of toy sales, but it was pretty generalized and likely included funko pop sales and adults only made up about 1/3rds of toy sales.
>>11730507The M3 canister carrier for the Carl Gustav is neat. Airsoft drum mags for the Desert Eagles, not so much.
>>11730527>The 1:18 line was never put on hiatushttps://toynewsi.com/index.php?catid=9&itemid=6248>It was recently announced that the G.I. Joe line known by many as the 3 3/4" line and the 12" line would be put on hiatus!https://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-news-rumors/845-robot-rebellion.html>It was to be the next theme after Venom vs. Valor. Joes with cybernetic/robotic add on pieces were said to be planned. Designs were being worked on, and then it was announced that 3-3/4" would be placed on hiatus while Sigma 6 was to take its place at retail.https://gijoe.fandom.com/wiki/2005>The 12" line was retired after thirteen years, and it was announced that store releases for the 3 3/4" figures would be put "on hiatus" indefinitely,Why do you lie?
>>11730571>newfag/third worlder who might also be retarded because he doesn't know the world kept spinning after February 2005It obviously didn't go into hiatus, because TRU and other retailers saved the line, hence 2005 and 2006 full of 1:18 figures.That Night OPS Humvee was released AFTER what your link said was to be the last wave. So at the time of that toynewsi article was written, that wasn't even announced.Do you even understand English? The hisstank link you sent confirms what i said about how the DTC line and Sigma 6 was made up of the Robot Rebellion storyline.This BAT set was released almost 6 months after the last wave was supposed to be made, because the 1:18 line was popular with stores and consumers, so they never stopped making them. Sigma 6 was shit, hence consumers not buying it and letting it go on clearance like most of the Classified line.
>>11730588https://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/05/nightopshumvee/>The Night Ops Humvee was released boxed as an online exclusive with the driver Rollbar (v2) in 2005.And your pic related came out in 2005, which is before the hiatus. At that point, TRU was the only store carrying 1:18 G.I. Joe, but before that it went online only....which is why it's called Direct To Consumer. TRU did a similar thing in 2015/16 where it was the only store carrying ME Joes for the 50th where everyone else gave up on the line. It's no coincidence that when TRU died, so did the ME Joe line. 2006 saw a single vehicle released in the scale, and it was....Direct To Consumer. All the figures were, again, initially Direct To Consumer before ending up in TRU, the only retailer to carry the 1:18 stuff. I distinctly remember this time as I was always tempted by the Viper Pit set, but by then I was moving on from the 1:18 Joes as I felt O-rings were outdated (which they were). 2007 saw no vehicles as the 25th line was just supposed to be the two box sets (I got mine from Kay Bee, which I posted earlier). Most retailers notoriously under-ordered the sets though, leading to a lot of complaints around them as they were difficult to find at first. But the wild success of the new figures....that catered directly to old fans of the series....prompted Hasbro to continue it past it's initial concept running all the way to the movie stuff in 2009.
>>11730619Not that anon but there has only been one hiatus, of 2 years, in the entire run of Joe from 82 to 20. And during those two years Joe was still in stores as Savage and Extreme.
>>11730619>retard who can't read his own linksOr third worlder who can't read english?>On February 18th, 2005, a press release by Hasbro was issued stating that 'Hasbro Introduces New Products To G.I. Joe Valor Versus Venom Line'. Included in this press release is information and the breakdown of new products to be released in the Spring of 2005 only. >Spring of 2005 >Hasbro has not stated about any new 12" toys that will be coming out this year but have stated that the last 3 3/4" 2 pack will be Wave 7 for the year 2005. I have gathered information on what 3 3/4" items will be coming out this year and unless Hasbro changes their mind then the following should be out this year: [no mention of night ops humvee and many other vehicles/figures released from summer 2005 til 2006]The night ops HMMV came out in June/July 2005. That's summer in the US.yojoe also identifies the Night OPs as being from the DTC line, along with 4 other vehicles, including this big motherfucker (also came out in Sigma 6, because they shared so many designs).Everything you say is either bullshit or retarded bullshitSo where were you in 2005-2006? Because it sounds liek you either weren't born yet, a toddler who couldn't create memories, or living in some third world shithole?
>>11730623The SCALE of 1:18 was to go on Hiatus, G.I. Joe as a whole moved to the larger (and smaller) Sigma Six stuff.>>11730629....yes....2005 is when the "last 3 3/4" 2 pack" came out. That was when the hiatus was set to start. Which it did, and ran through 2006 where it was all DTC only sets and Comic Packs...aimed at older fans of the franchise (which was the entire crux of the original argument). But just to be clear, you've said >The 1:18 line was never put on hiatusWhich is factually incorrect>retailers never stopped ordering more and more 1:18 GI Joe figuersWhich is also incorrect as the line went DTC and then moved to being TRU exclusive as other stores stopped carrying the scale. >S6 only existed due to Walmart wanting a higher price point toyline,Which contradicts >the 1:18 line was popular with stores If the line was so popular with stores, how come it went Online Only and TRU Exclusive?>Sigma 6 was a complete bomb, hence dying in a year.Sigma Six lasted from 2005 to 2007, so again, you are factually incorrect. And again, if the 1:18 line was so popular, why was it's planned follow up cancelled and many of it's designs and plans incorporated into the newer, larger sized Sigma Six line? (which is canonically a direct continuation of the story) Why wouldn't the retailers continue to demand 1:18 stuff if it was so popular? You spout off incorrect facts, contradict yourself and spew vitriol and lies with the same dumb ass insults like you're being clever. But reality is reality and your little fits won't change that. Also, your pic related was initially an Online Only release until it's re-use as a TRU exclusive Sigma Six set for the new smaller 2.5" line. I remember seeing that on the shelves too back in the day, but turned off by the smaller scale figure. If Wal-Mart wanted higher price point figures, why wouldn't they carry that thing? Because they certainly had no problems carrying The Corps back then.
>>11730642>retard still arguing after being proven wrong 79 times and linking to sites proving himself wrong>now trying to move the goalpost with even more bullshitthird worlders are so tiresome
>>11724793In one way its unironically cathartic to see #MehTurd be completely and utterly undone in the most humiliating way possible but i still fucking hate michael ellison and how hes fucking over paramount even more so
>>11730527looks so comfy
>>11724793>>11730650Sorry his name is david ellison, either way fuck that bastard for fucking up paramount and now warner bros. Just cuz he undid the #metoo witch hunt doesnt mean he wont be responsible for his own host of issues like how he hopes on drumpfs micro penis or how hes basically just like zaslav but even more outwardly politically bias. Also i dont give a fuck about landis either, again i hated #metoo for being a misandry fueled witch hunt by a bunch of angry dykes with unresolved daddy issues and an axe to grind against all men, and unironically they are completely responsible for the horrors of the current administration we are in today as all that SJW feminist shit pissed everyone else off enough to vote for cheeto hitler a second time for some retarded reason. One day i hope history books point to 2010s era feminism and SJW as being responsible for the rise of trump in the same way modern history books blame the post WWI sanctions and reparations that were put onto germany by other nations after the war eventually lead to the rise of adolf hitler.I hate this fucking time period so fucking much. Fuck trump, fuck feminism, fuck Israel, and most importantly fuck ellison. Lant night Rant over
>>11730651honestly, it's the opposite.open to the elements. large, metal guns protruding everywhere and keeping it smelly. black, to absorb all the light into heat. tons of equipment that you need to keep track of or lose inside the cabinBut that's what makes it so badass.This one is much comfier and sexy to look at.You can't get cool shit like this anymore. They're afraid of making new and original designs.
>>11724806Cobra commander is literally one of the greatest characters to ever be spawned from the 1980s and the writers who intentionally omit him so much from these works so much now should be held on nuremberg style trials
>>11730662>>11724806It'll probably be like the first two and Snake Eyes Origins, and have lots of ninjas because Hasbro refuses to understand that general para-military fans and audiences just don't give a fuck about ninjas.
>>11730645I accept your concession. Closest you've ever actually admitted to being wrong. I'm proud of you.
>>11730685Why the fuck does hasbro have such a hard on for the ninja faggotry so much?
>>11730689Larry Hama too. It's just something both Hasbro and Hama feel like GI Joe just can't survive without. And I doubt that the flop of SE Origins taught them anything at all.
>>11730685military shit is generic though and a lot of people perceive it as boring.So they added ninjas to give it their own spin and it's what made GI Joe stand out from all the other military cartoons/toylines/comics that all of you passed over since the 80s.I mean, even the GI joe from the 60s and 70s is ignored by GI Joe fans, because the one with the ninjas is cooler.This isn't me saying that cobra commander isn't cool, because Cobra is half the charm for the GI Joe franchise, but ninjas are still an attention grabber that many of us paid attention to GI Joe for in the first place.I think the trick to GI Joe though is to WRITE SOMETHING THAT ISNT SHIT
>>11730708One ninja was fine. Ninjas everywhere is just goofy. >I mean, even the GI joe from the 60s and 70s is ignored by GI Joe fans, because the one with the ninjas is cooler.Because the version in the 80s have named and established unique characters plus vehicles that just weren't possible in the 1:6 scale. Throw in a really good cartoon and comic book series. Plus I am sure there were a few parents who approved of kids NOT being able to strip their toys naked and having good versus evil in a decisive final battle while everyone's naked.
>>11730708Im probably one of the younger people interested in the franchise here and i mostly like it for the military wank and cobra. The ninja stuff can be cool but when its played too hard its fucking boring. Keep in mind my favorite piece of gi joe media is the sunbow cartoon and ninjas were barely a part in that compared to practically everything else that came afterwards and the comic run that was going on concurrently that i admittedly have barely read through yet.
>>11730710>Ninjas everywhere is just goofy.I dont mind goofy, i will unironically defend mega marines and space brigade aliens any given day, and 1987 is probably my favorite year for figure designs as well. But a slew of ninjas isnt just goofy-its fucking boring. Im sorry but ninjas just arent that fucking cool to me when theyre over done. Its why in part i never got into naruto outside of spanking it to the art of girl with the glasses from that show. I like some ninja stuff like ninja scroll and i genuinely think storm shadow and snake eyes are cool on their own, but when you have whole armies of ninjas the novelty wears off. Its like that syndrome line "when everyones super, then nobody is".
>>11730711Well your opinion matters because younger demographics do matter more than Gen-X since it's the younger demographcis that carry the line forward into the future. Hasbro should take notes.
>>11730717I was born in 96 if its of any use to you, i dont know of anyone in my age range who is remotely interested whenever i bring up gi joe. Whenever i talk cartoons ill get some others who will like the old G1 transformers but NEVER gi joe and honestly i think the old sunbow gi joe was written better then then G1 transformers was. I honest to god think the 80s gi joe cartoon was the best toy cartoon from that era, warts and all. I watched the shit out of it when they aired reruns of it on the hub in the early 2010s. I barely collect classified but ill occasionally get a few figures here and there as im mostly a 3.75 guy but i will say i wish hasbro would stop fucking over the franchise like they have but i think its gonna get buried. The new writers for the movie do not inspire hope also the movies are gonna be mired in ancillary controversy unrelated to gi joe cuz landis was involved with #metoo so a culture war shitfest will surround the film more then films quality itself. Thats if it ends up getting made at all. Also lest us not forget that zoomers dont give a shit about gi joe. For numerous factors too since hasbro fucked up and rise of cobra was shit and retaliation was mediocre at best (even tho as a dumb kid i enjoyed both) and also they foolishly cancelled renegades and also because of other political factors that make gi joe somewhat unsavory as a franchise since patriotism is in a downward spiral in my generation also. Im woke by 4chan standards and am not particular fond of the government either, but that doesnt discredit or invalidate gi joe as whole to me but unfortunately to zoomers or at least alot of them they see it as nothing but a propaganda piece yet will simultaneously shill COD.
>>11730724Okay
The ninjas, eco warriors and space force joe era was the best. Great gimmicks and designs
>>11730778>captain planet era joes was goodI love the toxo-zombie but cmon nigga that was a lame phase
>>11730782>Calarts crap cartoon makes fun of people for liking that era of character design >all it does is call attention to how shit their show looks most of the timeI should be laughing at their joke falling flat but instead this bit made me unreasonably angry.
>>11730782Whatever ones had the color changing armor. Shit was so cool.
>>11730786At least the show gave us loads of vampire milf porn
>>11730791Most, if not all the girls in that show would look more attractive in Sunbow style. The vamp mom only looks hot because they slapped hips and tits on her. Her face looks like a circle that is 90% eyes and mouth. Her hair looks so bulbous you'd think there's a tumor growing underneath.
>>11730786That's what built the brand. I'm personally tired of "reinventing for modern audiences" bullcrap.
>>11730800Imagine if GI Joe got an X-Men 97 style remake that paid homage and emulated the Sunbow Era minus the animation errors.
>>11730804>X-Men 97 style
>>11730804>paid homage and emulated the Sunbow Era minus the animation errors.That would be cool. Hasbro continues cartoon media support for Transformers and My Little Pony, but not for GI Joe for some reason.
>>11725283>how does two people write two scripts work? does that sound insane?>>11725289>a second come after and "doctor" it up is completely normal for hollywood. The most absurd part of what they're doing is having two people write scripts and then they plan to *combine the two*.>>11725466>MO for Hasbro moviesTo be fair to Hasbro, they aren't in the business of movies. Mattel lucked out with Barbie, might luck out and make decent bucks with MOTU, but likely will create bombs and shit the bed with nearly every other toy they try to turn into movies. Vidya can be turned into movies because it already includes a story. But the second anon is correct, multiple writers IS very common for very shitty, lowest common denominator films. It's NOT just a Hasbro/Transformers thing, WB had multiple cooks on the Flash movie, and Rogue One is an even better example, with two people CREDITED with writing the screen play (which is not what happened since they didn't work together) and two other different people getting STORY BY credits. Landis and Danny McBride will probably get the Story By credits, and be paid some chunk of wasted cash for a few ideas, dialogues, etc. Expect something that looks like a committee made it.
>>1173082597 style is very sanitized. There needs to be some grit and frayed edges, in a manner of speaking.
>>11730850the media support for Transformers is ridiculously cheap for what's meant to be a big franchise.
>>11730825>>11730956I didn't mean literally the same artstyle as X-Men 97. I meant it would be cool for a modern studio to try tackling emulation of the Sunbow artstyle with modern tools the same way the team did for X-Men.
>>11730978No modern revival has looked anywhere near as good as the original show. Every cartoon these days looks like a cheap flash animation cause nothing is handdrawn anymore, there's absolutely no soul
>>11730919>Expect something that looks like a committee made it That's the norm now. That's how a room full of diversity checkboxes feel "included and represented.
Tiger Force Snake Eyes
>>11730710>Plus I am sure there were a few parents who approved of kids NOT being able to strip their toys nakedthe dolls didn't really exist in the 80s. Only non-brands existed by the 80s and I don't think i ever saw any except in a dark corner because it was all old shit in oldass toy stores. Kids in the 80s wanted hard plastic action figures, so that's what all what toy companies like Kenner, Hasbro, MAttel, etc were making. Minifigures were actually gaining traction, with MUSCLE MEN, GUTS, Micro Machines, and even Hasbro made mini GI Joes. Dolls didn't really see a resurgence until the mid to late 90s.Anyway, there were a lot of other named military lines out there. Crops, Bronze Bombers, Unifighters, and who knows how much other shit that didn't grab kids attentions, because GI Joe had the right formula, which did go ninja crazy early on, and even having a fucking indian being storm shadow's main rival. Minilitary men fighting ninjas is what kids decided was the best, not Transformers combined with military men.And other paramilitary groups that got cartoons were Centurions (as a kid, i would have counted that as transformers vs men), Inhumanoids (mutants/monsters vs military men).... and i almost forgot about Spiral Zone, which was a cool concept AND were dolls (and also fucking expensive due to their size + vehicles).
>>11731252Also, check out how fucking amazing Spiral Zone was.If this were in 1:18 back in the day, I'm pretty sure it would have been popular, if not been a cult hit.No one fucking remembers these amazing figures.
>>11731254I remember the show, best theme song of the era, but I don't remember ever seeing toys for it, even though I would have been right in the target demo.
>>11730717>younger demographic that matters>>11730724>30 year oldLMAOHasbro needs to cater more toward kids, but they're afraid to, because they don't want to embrace the Call of Duty scene.Shit like Overwatch is a GI Joe ripoff and Hasbro fucking paid up the overpriced license for that shit. Who knows how badly that license bombed on them, because the license was super duper expensive and maybe Fortnite only generated GI Joe numbers, not being able to justify the licensing+royalty costs. >Also lest us not forget that zoomers dont give a shit about gi joeHasbro's fault for buying up a network that wasn't on basic cable, wasn't on extended cable, but rather extended PACKAGED cable. Who can fucking watch that, especially when cable subscription was flattening out?In the 00s, Hasbro was able to get a million viewers for their Spy Troopers and Venom Vs Valor movies on Cartoon Network. Decent numbers, rerun a couple of times, AND DVD sales back then were great (which funded the Sigma 6 tv series). So it's no wonder that GI Joe vs Cobra line was so successful in the early 00s.No doubt, GI Joe entering popular media again with those movies is why the 25th line had high sales. Resolute airing on Adult Swim also kept GI Joe on the forefront into the 10s.Since kids today don't watch cartoons anymore, Hasbro needs to embrace the GI joe becoming a FPS series to advertise their toys, especially since animation and movies are dying. Kids need to know gI Joe in order to know that GI Joe is out there for them to buy.
>>11731288>Since kids today don't watch cartoons anymoreExecs hate animation currently but if they pushed it more it wouldnt be dead. >especially since animation and movies are dying.Wrong, movies are still popular and again modern exces have a weird hate boner for animation currently, its not dead from a lack of appeal or desire from an audience
>>11731288Does anyone really give a shit about FPS games anymore? Most of them seem to have a shelf life of about 3-5 years. How many have come and gone?>CoD>Borderlands>Destiny>Overwatch>Fortnight>HelldiversEven the mega-hitters like Halo and CoD have fallen off. Seems like it doesn't take long before people are bored and move on to the next one. I can't imagine Hasbro putting all that time into one only for it to massively drop in just a couple years. Not really great for trying to use it exclusively to sustain a toyline.
>>11731295you hear about FPS bombing today, but despite them bombing, these developers still claim that millions of people played them. So despite mllions of users, they need 3-10 million players to sustain themselvesWhereas toylines you find in the cildren's toy aisles only need to sell 100,000-200,000 units per month/quarter to be profitable. So they only need to attract a 10th of those users. More popular lines sell millions, which GI Joe used to do back in the 00s and 10sAnd half of the games you mentioned still get around 100k users PER DAY, if not more than that, on Steam aloneIf you refer to this article https://i.4cdn.org/toy/1772946094670129.png 22% of boys from age 11-12 owned at least a single GI Joe. ~308,000,000 were livijng in the US back then and 11-12 year olds make up about 1.2% of the population. That makes ~3,000,000 11-12 year olds and 22% who owned at least 1 GI joe is 660,000 sales minimum. ~1.4 million 11-12 year olds liked GI Joe too. And that's the smallest age group of people who used to buy GI Joes.So it only shows how popular GI Joe used to be when there was popular media for it>>11731291they hate it because it doesn't make money. Streaming killed so many sources of revenue that used to be. Back in the 00s and 10s, they made a shit load of cartoons for direct to DVD because selling physical media was a sure way of making money. Then they also got deals to show their stuff on TV, which was another source of revenue. AND steaming sites also used to pay up to show those cartoons on streaming sites. now execs have killed TV and physical media to try and push everyone onto their own streaming services, so there's basically only one source of revenue now and those streaming services are bleeding a shit ton of money. Cartoons aren't pulling in the millions of NEW viewers that they need to make money, which coincideds why fewer people are watching cartoons/movies. Segmented, limited platforms, versus consumers having 3 ways before
I've been picking up fodder at the second market and keep skipping over Dusty and came across this dude who did a banging job cleaning up the camo. Now I need to find the entire box on clearance and not the Tiger Force one where it covers his eyes, but the easier one where the camo is just on his jawline.
>>11731034>Fans: "we want him in black!">"Super7: "did we hear people say yellow?"
>>11731252>Anyway, there were a lot of other named military lines out there. Crops, Bronze Bombers, Unifighters, and who knows how much other shit that didn't grab kids attentions, because GI Joe had the right formula,Media support matters. GI Joe had the highly-successful cartoon as well as the comic books. The others did not. That mattered more than ninjas. >>11731288>Hasbro needs to embrace the GI joe becoming a FPS series to advertise their toysA 3rd-person game in the veins of MGS/Syphon Filter/Splinter Cell that's heavily driven by characters and story would fare better than a shooter.
>>11731344>they hate it because it doesn't make money.It would make money if they didnt bury the shows to cut corners to line their own pockets like that fucking heeb zaslav does. All those tax write offs are all to build his own golden parachute to get away with after hes done with his nanking style rape of warner bros.People still watch cartoons on streaming therefore they should be making more cartoons on streaming, even if execs are made to by force if necessary
>>11731406There's an episode of Transformers Rescue Bots where a Black girl lectures Optimus Prime on getting the pronouns of one of his autobots right. And MLP is 100% about promoting gays and forcing "diversity." And both are cheap flash animation. It's really best that Hasbro doesn't make any new GI Joe cartoons.
>>11731411>There's an episode of Transformers Rescue Bots where a Black girl lectures Optimus Prime on getting the pronouns of one of his autobots right. Isnt that the same transformers show where the black kids in the main casg unironically look like the primates from the last season of beast wars?>And MLP is 100% about promoting gays and forcing "diversity." Ive never watched much of pastel horse show but they did it better. Im not /pol/ so i dont screech at gays inherently but from what i gathered horse show was competently made where as transformers earthspark was an ugly and preachy mess that got cancelled.
>>11731411Heres what i meant in my post here >>11731448 about the kids from earthspark looking like the cavepeople from beast wars by the way.
>>11731403>GI Joe had the highly-successful cartoon as well as the comic books. The others did notBut why did GI Joe succeed while others did not? Spiral Zone, Inhumanoids, Centurions, Rambo, Captain Power and the Soldiers of whatever, MASK, Ring Raiders, Starcom, and who knows what else. And if you didn't know, there was a huge ninja trend that started in the late 70s, which is why TMNT got so big, because it fully embraced the ninjas.And maybe a 3rd person game might be better, but FPS are easier to make AND the popular trend is still FPS. >>11731406>People still watch cartoons on streamingMaybe more people would be watching action cartoons instead of the drama shit that they're producing right now, but no one is making anything right now. There's no avenues for animation right now, hence Hasbro restarting their video game business. And unlike animation, Hasbro can actually directly make money from their video games.Making money directly from animation hasn't really been a thing since the late 10s, because again, DVD/BD/VHS sales aren't what they used to be and TV is dying. On streaming they're basically paid by the minute (of views), so even the studios have no idea of how many people are watching their cartoon, and possibly not even which episodes are watched all the way through. So there's no way to gauge what is actually hitting it big with audiences, so they can't adjust for what works and what doesn't.Streaming is a shitty bog, where everything is weighed down by execs hiding everything because they don't want stockholders to know how poor viewership actually is, thus not being able to justify any costs.
>>11731386He'll eventually be in all black. This one's a store exclusive so it's gonna be a version that not everybody wants. Still he'll sell out right away, because Snake Eyes sells. On Facebook everyone's bitching that he's an exclusive and how their worried they won't find him.
The new Chuckles
Only need a few more Joes to have the main cast of the movie.
Sunbow Daina looking good
>>11731468>There's no avenues for animation right now,There would be if execs didnt sabotage them out of a hate for the industry>hence Hasbro restarting their video game business. And unlike animation, Hasbro can actually directly make money from their video games.God you dont know how much i hope that fucking crashes and burns. Fuck vidya cancer
The Super7 Joes are really progressing into something cool as a long time fan.
The Marvel Comic version of Hydro-Viper is really rad, although the original still has a really awesome helmet. There's some great sculpt work on this new one.
We've only had 1 year of Reaction+ so far and this isn't even all of them. This second year is shaping up great.
I still wish after how many years now that Lenny would have a military advisor. The Legacy Special Forces soldier is just a toy of this guy.
>>11731508Hot take-i dont like they gave him a removable mask. It was better it was left a mystery what the royal guard looked like underneath the mask.
>>11731482Still no Baroness or Dreadnoks, and the BAT is the wrong color. Some vehicles would be nice, too. No one would complain if they released a cartoon-colors grey or blue firebat.
>>11731512Yeah I agree, could've done without them. Wings were a cool inclusion though, even if the execution isn't that good
>>11731512>it was left a mysteryThere is a blink and you miss it scene of Cobra-la people running in the OG animated movie, some of which are clearly wearing Royal Guard armor stripped down. Cobra La rando female figure when?
>>11731506Kinda neat they cribbed Peruvian SpecOps for a figure. I think the 60th Action Pilot being a halo jumper was a more egregious error, though.
>>11731549>Cobra-la female working on the street looks prettier than the right hand henchwoman of Lord GlobulusHow is this possible?
>>11731565>Cobra-la female working on the street looks prettier than the right hand henchwoman of Lord GlobulusSame energy as pic
>>11731549the guy's missing a hand.
>>11731586Anon...the dark red part on the right side is his hand. He's making a fist as he runs for his life.
>>11730981I think the off model inbetween frames that we always considered jank were the key to giving most TV animation that natural organic feel. Everything that doesn't go the slapstick route feels so stiff and unyielding.
>>11731592It looks like a hoof.
>>11731665See what you wanna see, Anon. Who am I to ruin your fun?
>>11731688Why are the women bigger than the men with:>>11731549but the men are bigger than the women in toy form as in:>>11729253???
when the fuck does zanya go up for order>>11731705the woman is supposed to be closer to the camera, making her appear largerthis is like kindergarten level knowledge of perspective
>>11731728>when the fuck does zanya go up for orderCan't be much longer, she's due in May.
>>11731252I'm pretty well versed in most 80s toylines but I don't think I've ever seen that one. You bet your ass if I was a kid I'd want a team of dudes with mini vehicle backpacks that combined into one big ass super vehicle. Hell, I kinda wanna hunt down that tank now as an adult. >>11731254Like this, most people don't even remember Spiral Zone, but I had that eight wheeler thing and I distinctly remember using it for my Joes....even if it didn't fit with them. It was mostly used by my Drednoks cause my bro wouldn't let me use his Thundermachine. >>11731295Helldivers is not, nor never has been, an FPS game. The first is a top down shooter and the second is a straight up third person action game. Even two years after launch it can still pull over 100k concurrent players for events. For an indy game, those are actually impressive numbers, too much for the devs to handle honestly.>>11731288>GI joe becoming a FPS seriesIt needs to become a third person action series. Basically just slap Joe paint on the old War For Cybertron model and call it a day. A game where you can play both sides of the conflict, has vehicle segments and mechanics, uses squad based combat with drop in/out co-op and a storyline that revolves around multiple characters...with create a character multiplayer...is the best way to show off what makes G.I. Joe great. >>11731411Which one? I watched a lot of Rescue Bots with my kid and for the most part it was a fantastic series. It generally stayed away from anything too "political", but sensitive right-tards usually throw a fit just because they see a non-white person do something good.>>11731468Ninja were never the reason G.I. Joe took off, the toyline didn't even have a ninja until three years in and Snake Eyes wasn't made a Ninja until the fifth year. Hell, those two were the ONLY Ninja in the toyline for almost a decade before Nightcreeper came along. Ninja weren't a big thing in Joes until the 90s.
>>11731512....it was a mystery? We see their faces in the movie, as shown >>11731549. I thought it was common knowledge Cobra La was filled with creep bald blue people. >>11731586War is hell man....and 80s animation was cheap. >>11731705>what is perspective
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>>11731742>Ninja were never the reason G.I. Joe took off, the toyline didn't even have a ninja until three years in and Snake Eyes wasn't made a Ninja until the fifth year.you have your dates all mixed up.While GI Joe was sold well in its first years, it became popular and a culture phenomenon when the ninjas became established. And when Ninja Force was released, that's also GI Joe's second biggest year. So there was a pretty big resurgence in the 90s, thanks to ninjas.So when did ninjas become important to gi joe? Storm Shadow was introduced 21 months after GI Joe came out (GI Joe comic was released a month before or the month the toyline came out, btw) and Snake Eyes became a ninja. Not 5 years later. Not 3 years later. Not even 2 years later. 21 months later.Not coincidently, GI Joe started to outsell XMen and became Marvel's #1 comic.So many non-coincidences with GI Joe hitting its biggest strides when Ninjas became predominant, huh?And what's GI Joes biggest character? or would you call him their main character? Ninja man.It feels like I'm the only oldfag in this thread, especially since I'm the only one that seems to remember the ninja craze in the 80s (before TMNT even existed).>You bet your ass if I was a kid I'd want a team of dudes with mini vehicle backpacksThey're kinda shit. People laugh at the minivehicles in GI Joe, but the backpack vehicles are also gocarts and playground equipments strapped to their backs. I hadall the tanks and it was a crumbly mess. I had a few others and they felt so halfassed.Centurions did it better.Unifighters was also my first introduction to gummy plastics. So they were 20 years ahead of their time in feeling cheap.
>>11732094ALSO, just remembering all this shit made me remember something i forgot from two issues in issue 19. Snake Eye s was able to defeat the SNAKE ARMOR suit because of his ninja training, which was established in issue 10. So Snake Eyes was a ninja in GI Joe's first year.
>>11731742>Which one? I watched a lot of Rescue Bots with my kid and for the most part it was a fantastic series. It generally stayed away from anything too "political", but sensitive right-tards usually throw a fit just because they see a non-white person do something good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrK8SoiIC04Apparently it was Earthspark and not Rescue Bots. It's still Hasbro pushing that shit.
>>11732094>And what's GI Joes biggest character? or would you call him their main character? Ninja man.That's a matter of opinion that has a massive flop movie working against that opinion. Even Ninja Turtles movies are flops now. General audiences don't care about ninjas.
>>11732096According to Hama's comic books. Hasbro kept him as a commando for as long as possible.
>>11732148skill issue kids still love ninjas, ninjago is still fucking going for 15 seasons now
>>11732167SE Origins was still a flop. It didn't help that Hasbro re-wrote SE to be Asian now, and Cobra's femme fatale Baroness was intentionally ugly to "fight male gaze."
Toy gods smiled on me at Walmart the other day, and gifted me a lone Night Viper hanging on a Black Series Star Wars peg. Would have been nicer if I hadn't just ebayed one, but I digress, lol. Now to wait for the replacement rifle from Chi-nuh.
>>11732502>gifted me a lone Night Viper hanging on a Black Series Star Wars peg.That wasn't the toy gods that did that. That was a toy-bro who's not a scalper. I've done stuff like that with spotting something I know other collectors are seeking, and putting it somewhere obvious to make it easier for other toy-bros to spot. So I know what it looks like when others do that.
>>11732537Well, thank you toy bro who sought to help others at a Joe-free Walmart. May good things happen to you!
>>11732401Nice logic.GI Joe Rise of cobra and retaliation were also flops, so does that mean that Duke and roadblock as main characters mean that delta force-like military movies arent liked?Or is it just audiences turning their noses up at shitty movies?>That's a matter of opinion that has a massive flop movie working against that opinion. Yeah, and the opinion is that Snake Eyes is by far the most popular character in the franchise. Despite the original cartoon making him a background character, even in the 80s he was the most popular character because he was the ninja.>>>11732149 Hasbro kept him as a commando for as long as possible.so... 10 months? The only reason he wasn't a ninja by the second miniseries is because it takes almost 2 years to make a cartoon. The toys' cards and comics were all written years beforehand by the same guy: larry hama. And the original SE file card already hints at Snake Eyes being a mysterious ninja, following the same ninja tropes that kids were eating up since the 70s.Serously, am i the only person who remembers the 80s here, because I'm the only oldfag?Again, I'm not even a fan of the ninjas (I'm just as big of a fan of the drug guys, environmental issue guys, and mutant/monster hunter guys). I mostly collect tacticool Cobra figures and even ignore a lot of the GI Joe releases (good guys bore me), but I think it's ridiculous to downplay one of the most important factors that made GI Joe so popular.
>>11732094Of the three main pushes for the franchise, the comics were the least influential. They were good yes, but the toys and cartoons were the biggest sellers. The comics followed them and had little influence on the cartoon or toy lore. And in both the toyline and the cartoons, Ninja played a minor role through most of their lifetimes. And yes, I remember the Ninja fad of the 80s and 90s. I remember the American Ninja series, Enter the Ninja, Revenge of the Ninja, the Shinobi games, the multiple Ninja themed toylines, from Rambo to Eagle Force's Savitar, who was on shelves long before Storm Shadow. Every TV show from Knight Rider to Magnum PI to freaking Perfect Strangers had a Ninja Episode. There were tons of Ninja based comics that came out at the time including Elecktra and the Hand and the original B&W Ninja Turtles series. No one is denying there was a massive Ninja crazy during that time, only that said craze was a major part of G.I. Joe's success. Again, the toyline only featured *two* ninja characters for the entire 80s and didn't really go "Ninja Crazy" until the 90s where they were dropping a variety of gimmicky sublines. If ninja played such a huge part in the franchise's success, why weren't they more prominent in the two biggest areas that led to that success?It was cool G.I. Joe had Ninja, but G.I. Joe wasn't cool *because* it had Ninja.
>>11732615the more you guys talk, the more obvious it becomes you're just zoomers who barely got into GI Joe and only read wikis.>the comics were the least influential. If the comics were the least influential, why is Snake Eyes so popular? He was a background character in the cartoon without any lines. In the comics, he was and still is basically the main character. He basically became the main character for the toyline and that's why he got his own movie (and prominent in the others), because the comics are /still/ the most influencial part of the series. If you were growing up in the 80s, you'd know how popular the comic lore was with kids. It's why they knew that Spirit wasn't actually Storm Shadow's rival and why Snake Eyes was so popular in thefirst place. On the 90s web, it's why nearly everyone's knowledge about GI Joe that was a mash between the cartoons and comics.Someone who doesn't remember the 80s wouldn't understand why this is, because zoomers don't know how popular comics used to be, because you grew up after comics fell out of popularity.Everything you've talked about is basically because you learned it from me. You didn't know there was a ninja craze and would have thought ninjas became popular due to TMNT (like so many other zoomers).I mean, you thought that Snake Eyes was made a ninja five years later and Storm Shadow came out 3 years later, because you only look at the wiki's years. If you were alive back then, you'd think it was much faster than it actually was, due to how our brains workAnd the reason there werent that many ninjas back in the 80s is because GI Joe was still a military line. but to say that there were only two ninjas just shows how ignorant you are about gi joe. Jinx. Quick Kick (Bruce Lee is a ninja to kids). Scarlet. Hell, Firefly was treated like a ninja by so many kids that he became one.And when Hasbro finally embraced the ninjas, GI Joe enjoyed its second biggest year.
>>11732758>why is Snake Eyes so popular?Because he's the Wolverine of the team. He was the cool all black figure who could kick ass no matter the situation. And again, he was popular before being made a Ninja, his first figure, the Commando version, was one of their best sellers. Which is funny because he was originally going to have paint, but they chose to sacrifice him thinking kids would find him boring so they could use his budget for the rest of the OG 13. Quick Kick and Bruce Lee were never Ninja, that's kind of insulting to say they were. I don't know what kids you hung out with that thought Bruce Lee was a Ninja, I know no one I knew thought that. Even as kids we could tell the difference between Kung Fu Masters and Ninja.I did forget about Jinx though, So there was a total of THREE Ninja throughout the 80s in the G.I. Joe Toyline. That's totally what sold the brand. And the only thing I learned from you is that you're a moron. Just because you're old doesn't mean you're right or special. Again, I grew up with G.I. Joe too, Ninja were never why it was so popular, and even as a kid I felt the Ninja Force stuff reeked of desperation. Not just because G.I. Joe was jumping on to a dying fad, but because they also crammed shitty, toy ruining gimmicks into many of the figures. At least sublines like the Eco Warriors, DEF and Battleforce 2000 had gimmicks that didn't make the toys less fun to play with. Though the Talking Battle Commanders were pretty bad, at least until you unscrewed their backpacks. Which made them still better then the Ninja Force stuff.
>>11732799>the Commando version, was one of their best sellersand on his card it says he's well versed in a dozen martial arts and knows mystical medicines like all ninjas were troped to know sicne the 70sThen he became an even bigger seller when they gave him a sword. So if you pretend he wasn't a ninja from inception, why'd he become a ninja? Well, you'd have ot read the comic to find out, huh? The cartoon didn't say shit about him, because he was just a background character there. So not only was Snake Eyes teh first GI Joe to have a brand new figure made of him, he was also the first to have a THIRD figure made of him too. If the comic weren't influencial, why was he popular and continued getting more popular as his story in the comic grew?GI Joe started off well, but it became popular due to what Larry HAma was writing. Storm Shadow got bigger too, hence him getting another figure too>Quick Kick and Bruce Lee were never Ninja, that's kind of insulting to sayNeither is chuck norris, yet he got a childrens cartoon because he's a ninja, just like Jacke Chan. Sorry if you think this is disrespectful but kids don't really give a shit. They have a lot of funny misconceptions and marketers cash in on that.Also, it's funny that you call Snake Eyes the Wolverine of the team, yet GI Joe outsold XMen back in the day. Wolverine was popular with kids before Xmen:The Animated Series, btw, since he already had a video game back then and also appaered in the Secret Wars toyline, which was based on comic book.Also, it's funny that you want to limit discussion to just 1980s GI Joes, because you know how important ninjas became once Hasbro decided to open the flood gates on them. While shit like Eco Force, DEF and Sky Patrol died fast.>Just because you're old doesn't mean you're right or special. It means I was there, experiencing GI Joe as it came out with all the other kids. GI Joe didn't exist in a vacuum, so i remember the shit surrounding too.
Anyone got any O-Ring Cobra Trooper and Viper (regular Viper) recommendations for someone getting into collecting O-Ring figures?
>>11732877Pretty much best bet is to pay the $100-200 for the Valor Vs Venom six packs. A single loose and complete Viper or Night Viper with the paint intact will cost you around $40-50 and Troopers/Officers will cost you close to a hundred if you get a vintage one. The six packs are your best bet if you want to army build on a budget. Just know that the six pack prices have spiked as the supplies of them dried up, as you used to be able to get them for $40-60 outside the rare ones (Steel Troopers vs Plague Troops, and certain packs with early 90s era Cobra X-Viper figures like the Python Patrol packs). Or if you want some unique color schemes, I'd pay the $100-150 price for the Cobra Infantry Team Toys R Us three pack, which infamously repainted the Vipers in Cobra Trooper/Officer colors or if you just want one, the Cobra Trooper/Trouble Bubble set which should cost you around $100-125. Just note that they did reissue the Viper mold during Joe Vs Cobra with a mini-Cobra Ferrett but they infamously fucked up the paint job giving the figure bare hands.
>>11732877Black Major makes a really cool glow-in-the-dark Viper for around $38. >>11732584>>11732615>>11732758>>11732799Aren't you in a preachy mood? I don't feel like digging through all of your bullshit, so I'll just go after a key point:>because it takes almost 2 years to make a cartoon. The toys' cards and comics were all written years beforehand by the same guy: larry hama. NOT true. Hama wrote file cards and comic book issues, not the cartoon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_G.I._Joe:_A_Real_American_Hero_episodesAnd the cartoon writers didn't feel like going ninja-crazy, which is why Storm Shadow is in a few episodes, and Snake Eyes is in even fewer to where neither carried the show. Shipwreck carried the show moreso than the ninjas did. And more people saw the cartoons than read the comic books. The only real "ninja" episode is "Cobra Quake" where Baroness unexplainably has three Storm Shadows under her command.
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>>11733014New one's up since no one else wants to fart with the three-layered captcha.
>>11733007at least re-read what you're trying to quote, because it's embarassing enough you're in this thread not to talk about GI Joe, but you also can't read English.
>>11733022Hama didn't do the cartoons, and it didn't take two years to produce them. It only took one, as apparent by 1985 characters showing up in the 1984 mini-series. Sunbow got them out fast by lowering the framerates to where each episode has a stupid-low framerate. They did the same for Transformers. And they knew who the market was, which is why there are more episodes of Bazooka saying "DOOR" than there are of Snake Eyes acting like a ninja. They even paired Spirit as Storm Shadow's counterpart in the cartoon due to how absent SE was. That's in stark contrast to Hama's comic books that wanted "ninja Snake Eyes" everywhere. And you're just here to argue. There isn't any reason for it. That's just what you do.
>>11733030>And you're just here to arguesays the non-english speaker who can't understand what he quoted
>>11733031I understand what I quoted. Your claim is Hama did the cartoons. That's not true.
>>11733035>literally can't read what he quotedSo this is twice you've admitted you can't read English. Gonna try to re-read what you quoted a third time to see what you keep getting wrong?But then, you literally admitted you didn't bother to read what was posted and just wanted to add your two Zimbabwe cents anyway, huh?Just fuck off, Yusuf. You're as worthless as your country of origin.
Shamelessly stolen from Bee's Battlegrounds on yourube.
>>11733313Official pic already out. Absolutely shocked one of them isn't black. Also disappointed half the box is going to be taken up by an additional wall piece for the cobra bunker since I didn't get any of those originally.
>>11733344You sure that's not a air-dropped supply case? Great set if you have a Rattler. Less so if all you're rocking are a couple of flight pods, lol.
I wonder what support crew can they make for the Dragonfly?Any ideas?
>>11733439I'd just use whatever buck made the most non-descript green shirt. That Black Series Osha that Ross is blowing out for .49 would make a fine base for a 15 Series MOS.
>>11733404Guess its supposed to be a gun locker
>>11733344>Absolutely shocked one of them isn't blackOh no. They're gonna lock the white heads behind this pack and make the standard trooper release using this mold black by default.
>>11733494Poor bastards, gonna spend the evening field-stripping and cleaning because someone in supply side decided to fill their drop crate with fucking sawdust. Kek.
>>11733514 Well at least they were to lazy to cover em in gun grease. That would have made it worse.
I usually don't lurk here but wanted to ask since Classified seems to be the best fit:what or who do you anons think I can use from the Classified series to make a custom 1/12 Dragunov from Tekken 8? I already am planning to get a 1/12 cloth gray coat from AliExpress
>>11722803Short video I made in 1993 in the basement of my friend house, using his collection of G.I. Joe figures and various other things from his Dad's workshop, along with some claymation you'll see at the end. https://youtu.be/K-z-rDDHWrE?si=xKp82QCITp28Ba3yThe camera could do animation but would shut off if you didn't snap a frame after 60 seconds, so I had to work fast and was able to get everything you see in this video done within 4 hours.!!!FACT!!!
>>11734957>age restricted>video from 1993how old were you back then that youtube has deemed you too adult for 4chan?
>>11735064>>age restricted>>video from 1993>how old were you back then that youtube has deemed you too adult for 4chan?15!!!FACT!!!
