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>>11739219
This wave has single handedly turned my opinion of 4H's Dwarves right around. I always felt they were the most boring figures because they all had so many shared parts, but even just adding a single set of new limbs to the mix is enough to make em feel far more varied. It also helps they have so many unique face sculpts. This is the only wave I've ever gone all in on, and I am very happy I did.

>>11738614
>>11738525
I'm kind of pissed he is showing up everywhere already, yet the actual official company hasn't even started shipping as far as I can tell. This keeps happening with companies and I don't understand, it's consistently the slowest option to actually buy directly from the makers.

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So they revealed the Evil Paladin set early, and not surprisingly....it's just a repaint of the good Paladin. But at least it's a repaint of the SDCC good paladin, so that means it has soft goods and armor underneath. Sadly...it's a repaint of the SDCC Paladin so it's a $60 figure. It's nice it has multiple heads, but I'm honestly not feeling it. Mainly because it is just the SDCC Paladin in different colors and slightly different, but not at all different, gear. Just feels underwhelming as a reveal.

I'm personally 0 for 3 on actually liking the unlocked characters. The Vamp/Boarrior set is too expensive as an army builder to bother with and the other two are just boring repaints with nothing really unique about them to make em interesting. The least they could've done with the Paladin is use the evil pauldrons or something, as is he's too boring of a repaint to care about. A new molded helmet would've also gone a long way with this guy as well, but I guess it's nice he gets the removable helmet option.

>>11739992
I can only assume it's a case of retailers being able to process a figure faster then a company that may not be used to shipping action figures. Hopefully they start going out soon, I need more Conans for my collection,

>>11739226
I'm still getting through my all in, but the dwarf pack is probably the most impressive thing so far. My only complaint about it was the complete lack of alt hands, which I had to double check the pics from when it was announced to see if it was a factory fuck up where they forgot to include them, but nope, that's all they ever showed. I also put the bonus head on Bothar Shadowhorn from All Star 6 and it gives that old clunker 1000% more personality.
Neve was a surprise too. The way the spikes on her pauldrons shift colour to purple depending on how the light hits them was jaw dropping.
Biggest letdown of the wave is either Diis Paatar or Yoshinai Kari, who are both really fiddly and not very fun to handle. Diis's extra spider arms are annoying to deal with, and Yoshinai's scabbards are a pain in the ass.
I still have Yakotaur, the mounts, and Attlus and Skapular left to open. I forgot to follow up last thread, but yeah, Skapular is getting saved for last.
>>11740567
I'm kind of annoyed they've forgotten the whole "cheap figures with upgrade kits" angle they started this campaign with. I'm not buying multiple $60 figures, but I would have bought a few of these at $30 and an upgrade pack.
>The least they could've done with the Paladin is use the evil pauldrons or something
They have so many different pauldrons now, it's baffling why they would use the exact same ones while trying to push how swappable all the parts are. The ones from Poxxus and Thorasis would have been great.

>>11740567
I like the colors, but it's nothing I need. I just want my sexy furry Ranger and I'm good.

>>11739219
wish I had some of those storm skeletons. why do they hate money.

>>11741597
This might be nitpicking from my part, but I think the Golden Axe skeletons needed neck articulation, I hate how they can't look up at all or barely tilt their heads. Solid figures though, at least based on the reviews I saw; if I ever get one I think I'll modify it to give it neck movements.

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>>11741597
I managed to get two sets when they first came out and I'm relatively happy with them, but as >>11741674 points out they're not really perfect. They feel like bigger versions of the old Revol skeletons with slightly less, but far sturdier joints. Didn't realize they were hard to come by these days, but I did get them years ago so I guess they're long out of stock. BBTS has a pair of bloody samurai versions on sale right now I've been tempted to pick up. They're basically just the standard Storm Skeletons with some extra gear, some red paint and a bad hair cut. But seeing any kind of Storm skeleton on sale gives me pause considering how bad their Dead Frame skeletons came out.

>>11742054
From what I know, it was only the Dead Frames that had the fucked joints.
I still haven't broken mine. I worked the fuck out of the swivels with hot water when I pulled them from the packet, so fingers crossed they last.
I haven't heard of the Getsu Fuma Den skellies having that issue. I'm not sure why they sold poorly. Maybe people were hesitant after the Dead Frames. Maybe because they are also really gory, and the intestines hanging out put some people off. Maybe it was just the dorky haircuts.

>>11742054
I pulled the trigger on the dead frames and breathed a sigh of relief when I gave em a go because I had no problems.
I've got some of those KeepGoing skeletons on order, hope they turn out ok.
Have one of the palm elf skeletons and while it looks fantastic, it's die cast so is too gangly to play with.
Sidenote but I also love the Heninger & Long Moan two pack (aside from the hands flying off). They fit with XesRay stuff as well.

>>11742054
>>11742243
If they didn't have those retarded strands of hair in their skull I might've bought the GetsuFumaDen skeletons. But that's the game's design so nothing Storm could do about it.

>>11741674
It's definitely not a nitpick. The two big flaws I find with it are that lack of neck range, and the soft hands/gripping hand design.
>>11742243
I wish I had picked up the GFD samurai kit when there were Chinese sellers parting them out. Might have actually taken my second Golden Axe skelly out of the box, then.

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>>11739219
>>Elric is on the water now, expected to arrive early April
I stopped keeping track of the things I've had one preorder because every single one has had a 4 month to upwards of a year delay but man, the final figure looks great

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I am going to be cheeky and post a non-fantasy character here because I miss talking with you guys. I just got my Rhea Ripley (got her the other day but she was missing a foot so had to wait for a replacement) and she's a really cool figure. I don't actually buy wrestling figures, but I like Rhea and I just thought her look in this gear had an almost 80s fantasy vibe to it, so I bought her for that reason. I had low expectations, but I'm really impressed with the articulation and feel, the details are excellent. Also her mask fits on my other fantasy characters which I'm sure will lead to some cool kitbashing in the future.

I also, finally, got myself some cheapish display cases and I am super happy with how they've turned out. Also also, I think I'm going to bite the bullet on John Carter...

>>11742680
Yeah he's looking really nice, I'm hoping you guys who ordered him get a nice Elric.

>>11742879
Minus the axe, she comes like that in the box?

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>>11742903
Yeah. When I watched that Survivor Series I thought she looked like some cheesy 80s villainess so I was chuffed when I saw they were making a figure out of it.

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>>11742903
Size comparison. She has a ball at the waist and at the diaphragm, which is better than most WWE figs. The butterflies are ok, nothing special, just single ball for the head with really limited movement. Drop down legs with pretty nice range, double knees and elbows, bicep swivel, thigh swivel that is perfectly hidden behind the straps, boot cut, ankle rocker plus hinge and toe articulation, hands are just horizontal hinges.

>>11742879
Alexa Bliss is still my fav female in the Ultimate line and for so long she was only like $12 on Amazon. The first Elite Tiffany Straton was ok, but the second TiffyTime as an Ultimate was def an improvement.

Tonight I was able to order Rising Sons Neve off of BBTS so I consider today a good day until I can get the traveling Legendary female barbarian.

>>11742879
>I just thought her look in this gear had an almost 80s fantasy vibe to it
If you hadn't said anything, I would have been asking who the barbarian minx is.

>>11742358
You're one lucky anon, from what I read here, the Dead Frame skeletons were a QC nightmare, with most of the posts complaining about something being broken right out of the box.
They look visually cool though, I'll give them that.

>>11742984
>>11743000
That outfit does look good and it fits in. I skip like 99% of the women's shit so I never saw this outfit. I don't know, man, the women's wrestling looks so phoned in. I just can't get into it.

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>>11743096
I'm with you, all of wrestling now is circling the drain, no storylines, no gimmicks, no characters, half the roster are indie jobber midgets etc. I do like Rhea, even though she sucks as a face and has basically no character anymore so her promos are trash. Her, Jade, Jordynn Grace, Sol Ruca and a couple of the NXT girls are basically the only ones that can look the part as a wrestler, I just wish most of the other women went back to participating in soap opera like storylines, brought back some of the diva stuff, interacted with the men. They don't all have to be equivalent wrestlers just because there is a proper division now.

Meh anyway, getting the figure in hand made me go all nostalgic and I went down memory lane looking at old Simon Bisley paintings. I wonder if anyone else will do what Icon Collectibles and Savage Crucible are doing with Frazetta Art, with other fantasy artists? I'd absolutely love a Bisley Slaine series (Eamon of FG has mentioned he would want to do that one day) or a Paul Bonner dwarves and beasties line. Any fantasy artists you guys would like to see immortalised in action figure form?

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So 4H revealed their final "announced" Stretch Goal figure add on and....I don't even know what the hell is going on here. It's a "Deluxe" character pack that turns the Skeleton Thief into some sort of vampire book mage rogue...thing? You get the head, the arms, legs up to the boots the torch and books on a chain....to make that. On paper, the parts you get feel worth it, but the final product just does not work well at all.

When they called it a Loremaster, I was expecting some sort of wizard, but this thing looks like the leftovers from my parts bin thrown together. It's honestly amazing how unimpressive ALL of their stretch goal figures turned out.

>>11742358
I'm legit glad you got lucky, as >>11743054 said, a lot of people, myself included, had no luck with them right out the box. I had pieces sheer clean off with almost no force, some joints were glued in place off and other parts would snap just by standing em up. I managed to franken-fix most of the broken bits, but I don't really fiddle with them anymore. They do work well in my glass cabinet full of figures I don't plan to mess with though.

>>11742662
The hair and the bloody paint are the only things holding me back. The guts are also a bit much, but they're removable so not that big of a deal.

>>11742680
I'm excited for him, even got him a nice big black chair to brood on. Will share pics when he's in hand.

>>11742879
>>11742984
>>11743000
Awesome find. I haven't been keepin up with 'rasslin in many years, but they've always had some great looks that could easily fit with fantasy figures. And more Snusnu is never a bad thing.

>>11743023
It's honestly kind of absurd how similar the Warrior and Neve are, they're essentially the same figure with different head and belt. But with how good Neve turned out, I absolutely want to hunt down the Warrior...and her accompanying head pack.

My first Dead Frame broke at the shoulder when I moved it for the first time, without feeling that I was exerting excessive force. I then threw the other one into boiling water, and did the same later to another 2-pack, and I didn't have any more breakages, but I'm always a bit nervous when I move the shoulders and may heat them a bit with a hairdryer just in case.

>>11743361
The worst part about when I gave my first Dead Frame the hot water treatment after being warned about them was I completely compressed his chest and had to rework it back into shape so he didn't look like he'd been run over by a steamroller.

>check out reviews of the dead frame
>they lack neck movement
But why? It's more irksome with them cause it would improve a lot their head articulation, more so than with the Golden Axe skellies

>>11743443
There's a couple of cheap options on eBay, and I'm tempted to see if some more range could be forced out of the skull with some cutting. It looks pretty doable on the regular skelly.

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Potential new line. Don't do shit for me, but they may do it for someone here.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ashenoath/ashen-oath-action-figures
I see they come from the Chinese school of how scale works. 1:12, but taller than the rest of the current fantasy figure line crop.

>>11743673
I think simply having skulls is enough for Necromancer-Anon to go all in. All skeletal figures shall fall under his dominion.

>>11743673
>>11743708

....it's tempting but I don't have a lot of faith in the current Kickstarter actually succeeding. At best it may make it's minimum funding goal, but it still has a long way to go to make that point. I'd be curious to grab at least one though, just to try em out, but the pics aren't even that flattering.

Still, more bones for the hordes are always welcomed.

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>>11742358
I'm waiting for the Keepgoing one

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GOB!

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>>11743924
LIN

>>11743673
>I see they come from the Chinese school of how scale works. 1:12, but taller than the rest of the current fantasy figure line crop
It's weird that he's making them so big. He's one of the guys making custom parts for Legions, so I would have thought he would have stuck to that scale.
I do like the Giger-esque armor look, and articulated jaws are always nice, but that height is a deterrent to grabbing more than one.
>>11743924
Lemme guess, $60?
I don't hate it, but I'm not army building 60 dorrar figures. Give me a basic as fuck gobbo so I can use the extra heads from this one on it.

>>11743924
>>11743925
Hey now, this one is actually kinda cool. I like how he has that similar weapon layout, but with a twist. Goblin Paladin is certainly an interesting concept, so I'm happy to grab at least one of them.

>>11743949
Agreed. I hate how so many of these "blank slate to build your own character" figures are full priced, or more, sets. If this were a $30 Goblin Set with two different $15 add ons (one cleric, one Paladin) I probably would've gotten three and both add ons. The fact that these figures are expensive pushes me away from buying them, as if many of them were cheaper I'd honestly be willing to spend more money on the project.

>>11743965
>Agreed. I hate how so many of these "blank slate to build your own character" figures are full priced, or more, sets
The worst part is that every single deluxe set they have done is something I would have potentially army built. Maybe not the dark paladin because it's a bit meh, but both this and the Varg/Boarrior set were ones I would have bought multiple of at $30 and then bought upgrade packs for.
Even if the Varg had been a $30 figure with a Boarrior upgrade pack, I'd be buying two more to use the extra goblin heads on. And I'd probably grab a few more to use the extra heads from the upcoming Gobhollow two pack.

So far I'm tempted by the two skeleton warriors and the skeleton head pack. Shame the skeleton face panel isn't in the 5 skeleton head pack

>>11744016
I hate that the skull pack comes with more Malleus skulls in the standard bone color. We already got that one as an unannounced bonus in the All Star 6 Undead head pack. You know what we don't have? Skeleton Legion Builder 2/Graveyard Skeleton skulls with the articulated jaws in the standard bone color. I still might get it since it is a Kickstarter exclusive and the normal Maxillius skulls are still handy.

>>11743673
I like the armors and articulation. I'd be interested in the helmeted skeleton Choir Mourn dude and a couple of those faceless Talon Watch troopers.

I'd need to learn about their international shipping and taxes.
The Talon Watch is an unlock, so that's a hurdle right now. I guess I could do with a couple of Resonants instead, though I'm not a fan of the combo of full plate armor and no helmet.
The price and accessory count ratio is not very enticing. That's understandable on their part as a new line, but I'd feel a bit dumb if I got them and then Mythic Legions or another brand made some figures with very similar looks and a better loadout or price.

>>11743826
>....it's tempting but I don't have a lot of faith in the current Kickstarter actually succeeding
Yeah, it seems they did a bit of campaigning before the start, so the backing may be a bit front-loaded. If we are at like 40% after the first day, it may or may not unlock the stretch goals.

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This dude looks insane in focused pics. There's so much texture that the minute shadows make it look like some 2d painting with miniature working of black ink.

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>>11745495
There's not a single milimeter without some sort of texture

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>>11745500
Nice man, glad you like him, I can see he looks amazing. Maestro Union right? There are a few figs they are making that I am really interested in, their Kenshiro will be incredible I suspect.

Just to let everyone know, it looks like Conan from Heroic Signatures will be shipping in April. They also gave us a 10% off code, hopefully it doesn't expire because I anticipate them making loads of other figures from the comics I will want. I also panicked when I got the email about John Carter pre-orders ending so I bit the bullet and bought one.

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Just got my second payment notice for my Lazy Monster Studio Elf Assassin. I got the two guard and she was pretty great, but I'm hoping to swap their outfits so the pale one becomes more of a ranger while the blue one has the fancy armor. I'm tempted to get the not-Draenei Sorceress as well, I never actually liked WoW but something about them space goat chicks works for me.

>>11746141
Good to get some communication about this, though I expect delays so I'm not too upset. How do we go about claiming this 10% discount though? I haven't gotten any kind of email or message about this.

>>11743673
I caved and bought the 3 skellies pack
>>11745493
>>11745495
>>11745500
Design is a bit busy for my taste but he really does look imposing

>>11746203
>I haven't gotten any kind of email or message about this.
I'm guessing you probably will, maybe it just hasn't come through yet, it was a code at the bottom of the email. Email was in my promotions tab on gmail, check there if you haven't already.

>>11746208
The horde grows...

>>11745493
>>11745495
>>11745500
I thought this guy was going to be brick but based on some reviews he moves fairly well. If the studio ever makes a reissue of this guy I'll be on line to buy one.

>>11746405
Well, the ankles and head are limited (no donwards movement on the ankle, only upwards; pretty much no vertical range on the head...), and the hips could be better, but it has very good arms and knees in particular, and a good working diaphragm joint.

>>11746208
>Design is a bit busy for my taste but he really does look imposing
I'm not a fan of exaggerated of overdesigned looks, but it's the anatomy what makes it work for me. It has some unnatural touches to it like small lumps and ridges that sell the idea that this is a demon and thus does not neccessarily follow earthly rules to his look and gear. Even the blade of his sword has a would-be-stupid texture to it, and the whole design of the figure all works together down to the last unneeded detail, like it came from an engraving.

>>11746208
I'm waiting to see what my budget looks like by the time it's close to the end. If they have a chance to unlock some stretch goals I may jump in and grab some. I do like that they have lower priced, unpainted options, would be a good figure to practice on since there's not much that could be messed up. I don't see myself getting a lot of these guys, but if the Project passes it's goal I'll at least drop enough for one.

>>11745493
That dude has a lotta cranium accessories.

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I just received the skeleton horse.

Pretty much the same size as Toybiz LOTR horses
Some joints may require adjusting (had to trim one peg and insert some tissue...), but the legs are very sturdy.
Connections of joints to bone are very tight in the leg joints (elbows, knees and below) and I haven't unlocked any of those. The joints are attatched in forward-backwards direction, so I don't think there's much need to unlock them (you're not going to make elaborated poses anyways, just standing and the various gaits, like a Mythic Legions horse). Weakest move is probably moving the forward legs forward and raising them, since scapulas are not articulated and elbows only reach 90º.
The saddle is kind of poor, and there are no reins proper, just a couple of simple chains to arrange as you wish.
No spare joints for the legs, only the smaller ones for the nexk.

I'm supposedly receiving the alicorn in a few days. It seems they got separated during transit since they are different shipments. I didn't order the centaur.

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>>11747770
Toybiz horse just in the back

So 4H basically said screw playing games and just unlocked all the remaining stretch goals with about a week left and 5mil away from the last unlock. I guess it's not even worth pretending they won't blow past all those goals, as none of em were even worth being things to aim for. Sadly I guess that means we won't get any cool surprises or crazy extras like what happened with the AoD event. But this one was never about actually funding the items, it was always just to show game shops there's a demand for the game.

.....though I still think the figures are doing all the heavy lifting.

>>11747770
>>11747771
Awesome, though still terrifyingly slender for my tastes. Didn't know it actually came with a saddle though, so now it's kind of tempting. Though I've ended up collecting so many horses ove the years I'm actually running out of figures I want to have mounts.

>>11748013
>unlocking everything without reaching the goals
screams of being desperate for money and fearing it wouldn't naturally read their intended goals.
So they have a week to maximize sales and hope it's enough so that they climb out of whatever hole they've dug themselves into

>>11748029
......yes, producing more figures without hitting the "goals" set for those figures is a sign of them....not doing well?

Stop smoking crack, it's not good for your brain.

>>11748038
if they unlock it without hitting the goals, yes, that's a sign that they don't think they would hit their goals or won't hit till later.
It's a sign of desperation, wanting to maximize their sales because whatever predictions they had haven't been met.

It's like at conventions where they sell limited edition figures but you needed to win a raffle to get into line. But barely anyone bothered to join the raffle, so they're telling anyone who passes by that anyone can line up for their limited edition figures.

They removed the boundaries because it wasn't going as planned.

>>11748053
>if they unlock it without hitting the goals, yes, that's a sign that they don't think they would hit their goals or won't hit till later
Or it's just to make it easier for everyone to pledge for what they want in the final week instead of having to change their pledge at the last minute as things unlock.
It's not like they did what McFarlane did with the Super Powers crowdfund on his website and magically change the funding goal because it wasn't even going to hit the goal to be funded, and that was a really low target.
Hell, they've hit over a million with 6 $30 action figures and the same amount of $15 upgrade and weapon packs, and fuck all stretch goals. And a game that most of the fanbase considers ancillary to the action figures.
Their second Kickstarter had 19 figures, 20+ stretch goals, and didn't crack a million.

>>11748082
>[it makes] it easier for everyone to pledge for what they want in the final week instead of having to change their pledge at the last minute as things unlock.
no shit?
This is how you maximize the amount of money they're going to get, because they weren't hitting their projected sales goals.

>Their second Kickstarter had 19 figures, 20+ stretch goals, and didn't crack a million.
which makes me wonder what's going on if they're desperate enough to break their own goalposts.

>>11748086
>because they weren't hitting their projected sales goals.
Or they know that with the final week rush that every Kickstarter gets they were going to unlock everything anyway.
>which makes me wonder what's going on if they're desperate enough
Yeah, nobody is buying your mentally ill concern trolling.

Everyone else, ignore the troll.

>>11748093
>Or they know that with the final week rush that every Kickstarter gets they were going to unlock everything anyway.
Most Kickstarters naturally reach that point though, which you keep ignoring.

If these were a convention exclusive that needed a raffle ticket because they thought it was going to sell that much, but then did away with that whole system, you'd be talking about how beneficial that is to the consumer, but ignoring the fact that they did away with the raffle because of poor demand.

Yeah, they're making a million dollars, but the fact remains that they did away with their own system because they were obviously projecting much more than that at this point in time.
So it makes me wonder what's going on behind the scenes, especially since most kickstarters don't break their own goalposts.

>>11748098
I think you are a concern trolling shitposter.
Post a pic of 4 Mythic Legions figures in front of an electrical socket and prove otherwise.

>>11748101
>wondering what's going on at 4H that they took down their own goalposts is trolling
You're as desperate as 4H

>>11747770
Really debating if I want a Mythic horse, the one from Savage Crucible, or just stick with the BAF one from McFarlane for now. The SC one for Frazetta looks nice, but I don't like the "real hair" aspect.

>>11748098
They've been projected to hit 1.5 mil since the damn thing started. They are doing exactly what they expected they'd get. There is no surprises here, they're doing exactly what they expected this KS to do.

That said, most of the stretch goals were shit anyway and the entirety of my pledge is all base items anyway. As a fan of this company, I can honestly say some of the stretch goals are some of the weakest figures they've put out in the line to date.

>>11748110
Get at least one Legions horse, they are fantastic. I don't have the Fish Toys/SC horse, but I hear they are great as well...but they are damn expensive. But you can get either the Zombie horse or the pure Black horse from the 4H shop for $55 each, $65 with US shipping. BBTS has the Skeleton horse and White Knight horse as well iirc, but they're like $80 a pop and that's pushing the price limit for what I think they're worth.

The Mcfarlane horse feels like crap compared to a Legion Horse. The weight difference alone is staggering, let alone the sculpt, paint and articulation differences.

>>11748113
who was projecting 1.5? and where?

And it's very weird that they'd remove their own goalposts, unless something went wrong.
I'm looking at the actual RPG sales and it's way lower than the action figures. As a toy fan and 4H being a toy company first, i think that's a given, but maybe this is what 4H is doing away their goalposts, to make up for the RPG's poor sales?

RPG shit usually gets way more support than this. Even dice shit does.

>>11748118
Every Crowdfunding tracker page I know of. Kicktraq specifically had it at 1.56 since the first day. Considering there's a week left and they haven't gotten their last minute push, they're very much on track to get it done.

And the figures are selling more because there's more figures to buy. You only need one starter pack and rule book, but you can army build the clerics and rogues etc for parts. Also, retailer investments aren't shown on the public side of the project and those are the real ones buying the RPG itself. This entire thing wasn't for funding, because they've already started making everything, the figures and books are already in production. This was all for advertising and it worked very well.

>>11748122
Don't waste your time.
>concern trolling
>can't stop talking about goalposts
>can't post his figures
It's obviously him.
Reminder from the OP.
>And remember, Don't Feed the Troll.

>>11748122
i thought you were saying that someone at 4H was going to be happy with $1.5 million.

Shit like Kicktraq are automated trackers (and they aren't accurate due to sales being front and back heavy). Those don't mean anything to the people who make KS, because each maker has their own internal goal/projections and that is usually reflected by the goals/milestones in the kickstarter, which makes their decision look like a move of desperation.

>This was all for advertising and it worked very well.
I doubt it, because why would they remove their own goalposts?
You only see this being done when a product is having difficulty being sold. That other poster mentioned those DC figures. You see this happen often at conventions too.

So whatever 4H's internal projections are, they haven't been met, thus removing the goalposts to start the sales flood that you usually only see at the end of a KS. They want to maximize sales a week early.

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Fucking magnets! How do they work?

>>11748029
It always looks a bit bad when conditions are changed like that, but at the end of the day it's a move of convenience so that backers can plan and pledge freely without needing to wait to possibly the last hours of the last day. It's not the first time that a kickstarter campaign does that with its stretch goal addons for that reason.

>>11748626
>It's not the first time that a kickstarter campaign does that with its stretch goal addons
I've backed a few Kickstarters where they have completely rearranged stretch goals during the campaign and adjusted the goal needed to unlock them, or unlocked the last goal early during the final week because they were close to the amount needed.
I don't think Four Horsemen even had the stretch goal amounts listed for this one until after the first day when they had already gotten over 6x the initial goal to successfully fund the project.

>>11748626
That horse is cool. Where and how much?

>>11748820
They had some stretch goals listed, but entirely overhauled them about a week in and split them into two different groups. One was all add-ons that were automatically included in the initial all ins and the other were extra figures and packs.

I'll be honest, this entire KS felt kind of lazy, like it was running on auto pilot. Maybe there was more excitement in the facebook group or something, but the project itself had like no energy behind it. It's almost as if they knew exactly that they'd get that 1.5 mil and just put in the most lack-luster unlocks just to tick some boxes. Was still kind of hoping they'd have one more surprise figure past the 1.5 mark, but that hope is very much gone as they just gave up the game entirely.

Oh well, guess that means I can save more money for that in-stock sale in April. I'm hoping the armory guys are included as I'm planning to grab at least three of em. It'd also be great to see the Zolocon and Toylanta figures up for sale, but I think it's way too soon for their retail versions to come out.

>>11748874
Nta, but it's the Palm Elf horse, up for sale on the usual import sites and even BBTS. I've seen ones with extra gear going for like $80 but the one on BBTS seems to be just the horse and saddle for around $50.

>>11748888
Thank you!

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Yag Kosha cometh!

By Valka, how about a King Kull next?

>>11748883
I remembered the clarification post about what stretch goals were free unlocks included with bundles and what were extras, but I couldn't remember if they had the goal amounts listed on day one.

>I'll be honest, this entire KS felt kind of lazy
I agree. Honestly, the campaign has been a let down compared to what I expected just from the first paladin/cleric tease and what seemed like a way to get cheap army builders, but maybe I just had high expectations.

A short summary of the things I was disappointed with:
>making the cleric the base figure instead of the paladin (killing the possibility of cheap knight army builders)
>one upgrade pack per base character figure and no more
>no upgrade packs for skeleton and orc (except a last minute head pack)
>weird ass Lore Master upgrade pack with armored legs that don't match the rest of the build aesthetically
>Dark Paladin being barely different from Heroic Paladin in build (while advertising the pop and swap aspect)
>Creature Builder, Dark Paladin and Goblin Cleric being "deluxe" figures instead of basic priced figures with upgrade packs
>no cheap goblin

That last point is probably my biggest peeve. I'd find the $60 gobbo cleric more palatable if there was a cheap goblin. The creature builder should have been a $30 goblin with 2 different $15 upgrade packs to change it to a Vargg with wings or a Boarrior. There should have been a goblin army builder to use the extra heads from the $60 goblin on. Goblin armies are a staple of TTRPGs, and somehow the only goblin is a last minute addition.
Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?
Goblins aren't even my favorite fantasy monster, but not even thinking about including a goblin in your fantasy TTRPG until it's pointed out to you screams of a complete lack of forethought.

The sad thing is that it was so financially successful that I doubt they will examine any of the missteps.

>>11748951
Holy shit dude, are you me because I have the *exact* same feelings about all those issues.

Though I personally would've liked to seen the "Monster Builder" set been a Varg figure base with the Boarrior parts being an add-on and the Goblin figure being a Basic Goblin, with the Paladin and Cleric parts being two different sets.

I also think Rix, their one named character, should have used the new 2.0 build with bare bone arms. He would have been far more of a unique figure as that build is barely used and there are so few 2.0 skeleton figures. It also would've worked with the Lore Master idea, but that entire add-on set is ass and would have needed to change (soft goods robe and 2.0 Vamp head would've made it perfect). The stock "Lore Master" figure is probably THE least cohesive figure ever released in this line.

But yea, this entire campaign has been intensely underwhelming and I honestly believe that feeling all started when they revealed the Cleric build to be the base version of the new figure instead of the Paladin build.

Having a cheap, new build Knight option that made use of the multiple faceplate tech? That was a fantastic idea. But once it turned into the very distinct, no alternate faced Cleric, army building that figure was all but pointless. I had originally planned to get a bunch of em as they're perfect soldiers for the Lion faction army, but I only ended up wanting two and didn't even get the add on set (I also got the SDCC Paladin and I'll be using that knight head on one of the red figures).

Stretch goals are supposed to entice people to spend more, but through out this whole project I kind of wanted to get less and less of it.

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Not quite fantasy, but I got Anubis and Bastet today and put this together.

>>11748874
Yeah, Palm Elf Series by 101Toys. This is the second horse they made, the ES029. Got it from Gundamit for 70€.
I believe that ES016 is not articulated, meant as a simple prop for the humans.

>>11748980
>Though I personally would've liked to seen the "Monster Builder" set been a Varg figure base with the Boarrior parts being an add-on and the Goblin figure being a Basic Goblin
The only reason I suggested the Varg should have been an upgrade pack was to include his wings since I doubt they could have included them in the $30 figure price point, and if this is going to be their evergreen line going forward, they should be maximizing the parts library. That's the dumbest thing about the Dark Paladin.
The Varg pack could have included the wings and head plus a weapon, and then rework the Lore Master pack to include the bare vamp limbs, and a bare torso in whichever one works better cost wise so that they can both be used with each other to make a Vampire Barbarian, or bare chested Varg, along with the Dark Paladin to make Vampire Paladin/Cleric.

But we definitely should have had $30 evil army builders using both the 1.0 body that the Creature Builder is on and the 2.0 gobbo torso so we could make "tank" gobbos like Gonxx/Bog Goblin and scrawny 2.0 gobbos. Add the two upgrade packs you suggested to make the cleric and paladin. Goblin warrior, tank, cleric, and paladin. That's 4 classes just for one race. Pop and swap in the orc torso and your tank goblin is now a Goblin Berserker. 5 classes. Then add a Goblin head pack with neck adapters that allow you to use it on either the 1.0 or 2.0 body. Include a Bog Goblin head.
You suddenly have an insane amount of options.
The base $30 enemies should always be enemies that you want hordes of, and I would always want more goblins than Vargs or Boarriors. They feel like a mid level enemy.

>I also think Rix, their one named character, should have used the new 2.0 build with bare bone arms.
When he was revealed I thought he probably could have been done as an upgrade pack for the skellie, but your suggestion is even better. That would have added to the 2.0 parts that are included in the campaign.

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Loosecollector's Chupacabras looks like a fun little creeper.

>>11748982
Very nice!

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>>11748883
>It's almost as if they knew exactly that they'd get that 1.5 mi
why'd you latch onto this number?
And if they knew it would get to 1.5, why'd they remove the goalposts?

And if you look at actual sales, removing the goalposts didn't actually set off the normal sales spree that usually happens when things get unlocked. For a bunch of things getting unlocked all at once? That's pretty bad.
It's actually a lot more front heavy than most kickstarters normally are. Pretty much everyone who wanted to back it backed it day one and same with how much money they took in.

>>11749083
>And if you look at actual sales, removing the goalposts didn't actually set off the normal sales spree that usually happens when things get unlocked.
Almost as if your theory was bullshit because you don't know what actually got unlocked early. Did you really think a dice bag, one character pack that most people have said is underwhelming, and one figure was going to cause an explosion in sales?
>That's pretty bad.
You are desperate to spin this as some sort of disaster
You're a fucking retard, Subby.

>>11749130
>actually, removing the goalposts isn't a bad thing
i mean, technically, it's not bad, because you're going to draw in more sales, but you only remove the goalposts because sales were lower than expected

>Did you really think a dice bag, one character pack that most people have said is underwhelming, and one figure was going to cause an explosion in sales?
... I'm not sure why you're arguing with me if you're just justifying why their sales are so low.

>>11749132
I don't know why you are shitposting about a Kickstarter you were never going to back.

>>11749135
>shitposting is wondering why they would remove their goalposts
I get that you're upset that you can't control the narrative on a anonymous message board when something is going bad for your company, but you come off as really desperate when you'er this defensive

>11749141
>your company
Subjectanon confirmed.
I was saying I had a lot of issues with how this Kickstarter has been handled earlier, but yes, I am secretly Eric Treadaway because I managed to recognize your shitposting tactics, tendency to latch onto one word and overuse it, and repeated spelling errors that you constantly make.
But thanks for confirming it was you and that you are addicted to trolling about Four Horsemen because they live in your head rent free. It explains why you wouldn't post 4 Mythic Legions figures in front of a power socket. You only own 3 Mythic Legions figures from over half a decade ago, and we know which 3 they are.
Too bad I can see through your bullshit. Maybe you'll have more luck with buff manlets at your local gaybar since the only thing you do on this board other than shitpost is be a massive faggot.

>>11749162
Have you considered trying not being a troll that has to stop everything to keep up your insane fight?

So Oxkrewe wave 2 is shipping now, if you got any space folks from that wave check your emails and doorsteps cause those new figures could show up any day now.

>>11748982
Awesome set up, wish I had the space for a display like that. You planning to grab Thoth when he goes up for sale in April?

>>11749053
I got one of the Dogmen, and wouldn't mind grabbing one of these guys. But I don't need three and I'm not dropping a hundred to get that many of em. Cool looking figures though and I hope the line continues with more cool cryptids.

>>11749162
That's the worst part about all his dumb ass trolling. You could have legitimate complaints about the decisions the company makes, but you can't really discuss em because it's all ignored because this idiot makes up lies and conspiracy theories to shit on the 4H instead. I mean there's plenty of ACTUAL problems they have as a company, I don't need to argue with an idiot who thinks it's suspicious they "unlocked" stretch goals in a kickstarter that were always planned to be unlocked right from the start.

>>11749162
>I'm totally not acting like a 4H employee who wants to derail the thread to move discussion away from someone wondering why the kickstarter had to remove all its goalposts like companies do when sales are doing poorly
The excuses you guys come up with are what marketers do, and we've all seen how unprofessional and angry 4H employees get when they confront their fanbase.

And you don't seem to understand the entire point of asking asking for timestamp/proof pictures. I'm not pretending to be anyone else and I proved who I was and that I was a 4H fanboy long ago.
My reviews and other figures that i posted were because those were the ones i had a problem with or proving other things, like how i own many supposedly super delicate figures for a decade+ which proves I'm not a hamhands and that it's just 4H using brittle plastics on their toys.

>>11749681
>lies and conspiracy theories to shit on the 4H instead
How the fuck is pointing out that removing the goalposts on a fundraiser a sign that sales are doing poorly a lie or conspiracy theory? This is literally what retailers and toy companies have done when sales/demand are too low.
The fact that they hit a million dollars and STILL do this act of desperation sets off a lot of alarm bells, but it's only with Mythic Legion/4H it's trolling/lies/conspiracy to talk about their worrying decision.

Reminder: Subjectanon only posts here to try and derail the thread, as he refuses to allow people who like things he doesn't be able to talk about those things. He is a pathetic, insecure little troll who cannot tolerate any dissent from his incredibly warped viewpoint. He does this to basically any general he doesn't like, including this one, with the ultimate goal of killing the general by making the regulars so sick of his shit they stop posting altogether. He has admitted to this, and also wanting the concept of a general thread destroyed.
Do not give him (you)s.

>>11749788
So what everyone else pledge for during this thing? All of my pledges are stuff from launch and are all figure related outside of the Core rule book. I don't think I added any of the stretch goals and I'm honestly debating whether I even want the book. I was hoping it'd have some cool artwork, but it seems it's mostly just pictures of the toys, and ones we've already seen, so that's honestly kinda boring. The best part of manuals and such is the cool art, even if you don't play the game.

Still got some time before the end so I may add some more of the option sets and a figure or two. At the very least, grabbing these guys for $30 is kind of a steal, especially since the core six use a lot of newer parts. An extra set of the new Dwarf legs or cuffed boots could easily come in handy down the road.

So many words.

>>11749617
Subby has no interest in the Mythic Legions Kickstarter apart from using it as excuse to cry about a company he hasn't bought from for 6 years and adding to his insane manifesto that he spams all over the board. Have you considered not trying to protect a troll who has been shitting up this thread for nearly a decade? Keep your boyfriend under control.

>>11749681
>So Oxkrewe wave 2 is shipping now, if you got any space folks from that wave check your emails and doorsteps cause those new figures could show up any day now.
A few should be coming. Did anyone think that Oxkrewe 2nd accessory set was worth it compared to the first?

>>11749681
He did the same sort of shit with the Red Sonja licenser incident. Twisting facts to fit his agenda and argue in bad faith, and then he dropped the mask and called the anon he was arguing with a Four Horsemen employee.
His whole premise is that sales are doing poorly...for a Kickstarter that was funded in under 5 minutes and is currently at 6 times the funding goal...because they decided to unlock the last couple of stretch goals early.
Never mind that the stretch goals have been deliberately placed hundreds of thousands of dollars apart instead of $15k apart like they were during the AoD Kickstarter. If the stretch goals were set to the same parameters as during that Kickstarter, most would have been unlocked during the first day.

Anyway, I'm not reading his reply. I just needed him to drop the mask so that the other anons could avoid getting into a back and forth with his bad faith arguments.
He'll be back next time he feels like making a mountain out of a molehill to try and stir up shit to cry about a company he hasn't bought from for half a decade.

As for Oxkrewe, my orders are at BBTS,so I'm a few weeks away. And I might cancel a couple of the figures and just keep the Buzz-off tribute and the two Thraxxians I bought to use in Mythic Legions. I've tried to get into Cosmic, and it's just not doing it for me.

>>11749953
Correction. The Kickstarter is currently at 12 times the funding goal. It got 6 times the funding goal on day 1.

>>11749942
Nah, most of that stuff comes with other figures already so the whole thing felt cheap. Even the big box was just reused.

>>11749953
>And I might cancel a couple of the figures and just keep the Buzz-off tribute and the two Thraxxians I bought to use in Mythic Legions. I've tried to get into Cosmic, and it's just not doing it for me.

I ended up grabbing more Cosmic figures then I originally planned to, but for the most part I'm not into em either. Like I got the worm dude and the green alien guy from the last wave and really haven't enjoyed em. I'll probably skip out on future waves and may even try and sell off most of the current collection I already have and just maintain a small handful of em.

I also have Not-Buzz Off pre-ordered, but he was always going to be used with my Legions (already have legs to swap out his space boots with, and might even try to hunt down another of the Diis Paatar heads). I do kind of regret not getting the mount though, he could easily fit in with Mythic as some sort of Dwarf pet or something. From not on if it don't work with the fantasy stuff then I'm just going to avoid em.

>>11749959
It's also broken the backer and pledge total of previous KS, very easily. It's nearly at 1.2 with a few days left so that 1.5 is pretty much guaranteed, especially with the whole fan "telethon" crap going on for the last day. I remember the last day of their Dragon sale and the total units sold that last day pretty much doubled the entire previous month of funding. I doubt this will double it's final total in the last day, but 300k will be an easy get.

Now the Ashen Oath Kickstarter is currently the longshot. It's expected to fund, but I question how many of it's stretch goals it'll actually hit. I pledged for a single figure, but if they unlock that vampire dude I might grab a second.

>>11749965
Yeah, I haven't backed it yet, and I'm sure there are a few like me that always wait until the end. I've had a couple of things come up, so in an effort to be financially responsible I'm probably just going to get the Orc, Skeleton, the Kickstarter/SDCC exclusive Paladin, and maybe Rix. Maybe the orc/skellie head pack.
Have they said if there will be a backer kit? I might add a couple more during that, otherwise I'm content waiting for an in-stock sale.

>>11749972
I don't think it was officially announced, but it's often expected. It's really the best way to confirm your pledges and a lot of times tons more people hop on after the KS actually ends.

>>11749953
>bad faith
>mask
LOL, for someone who's claiming I'm making up some conspiracy theory for a COMMON tactic companies use when sales are lower than expected, you sure love pushing your own conspiracy theory. No one is hiding anything. You just sound like you come from some dead forum where any negative talk comes from nazi hitlers in disguise.

So you just want to making shit up to draw attention away from 4H lowering removing their goalposts because things werent going as planned.
What's going on at 4H that they'd do a desperation move despite raising a million dollars?

Someone earlier said that nobody wants that shit, so why even remove the goalposts for them then? That doesn't make sense at all. Just don't make that shit if it's such an unwanted product and leave it locked.

>>11749788
>He has admitted to this
Shit that never happened. IF you can quote me on this, I'll never post in these threads again.

You shills just make shit up because you're angry that someone noticed that your company is doing something wrong. It's the same shit when the Mythic Legion figures from 2024 were molded with air pockets in the joints, and 4H shit on all their customers for complaining, telling them just to leave them on the shelves instead of trying to pose them.

>>11749974
Cool. I might add a couple more orcs and skeletons then if I've financially recovered from what just hit. Really the army builders are the main things that interest me.
The rest of my want list is just the red cleric and the dwarf, maybe an extra dwarf and a couple of Barbarian upgrade packs for some spare parts. The Rogue and the goblin I am really on the fence about. We'll see how funds go.

>>11749977
ok sbubby

>>11749977
>you sure love pushing your own conspiracy theory.
There is no conspiracy theory. You are only here to shitpost. You have no genuine interest in the Kickstarter. You are only here to shitpost because you are a mentally ill retarded shitposter that is addicted to shitposting.

>>11749981
>Really the army builders are the main things that interest me.

This is honestly what grinds my gears the most about this whole project. They haven't really done Legion Builders in a few years so these guys were a perfect way to sort of reintroduce that concept of getting cheap army builders. And then at every step they decided to make it so the figures don't actually work well AS army builders.

From swapping the Paladin as the default build to the Cleric, giving the Mage and Dwarf bare arms so they can't work as any other race or archtype, having the default head on the Orc being the yelling face, and then making an actual Army Builder a higher price point set are all decisions that actively discourage army building. Again, the fact that the Goblin figure is a extra high priced deluxe set instead of a cheaper figure using the new bare limbs so people can build up a horde of the grubby bastards was a mind boggling bad decision.

It's a good thing these figures are fantastic, because the 4H really do make some poor choices when it comes to what to sell.

>>11749991
I love how when you insult him in a new way, he'll latch onto that insult and start spamming it at every else on repeat. It's like a toddler learning a new word but not understanding what it actually means. Everyone is going to be in on a "conspiracy theory" now according to him because people pointed out his own stupid conspiracy theory.

>>11750483
>he'll latch onto that insult and start spamming it
Ever heard of projection? He's accused me of those things, yet it's actually him who's doing it.

I'm trying to stay on topic, but he wants to derail the topic to try and insult me, because I'm wondering why 4H removed their goalposts like companies do when sales are poor.

It's not shitposting to question why 4H is acting desperate despite raising a million dollars.

If this were any other toy company, people would be worrying about 4H's ability to make toys, because they removed the goalposts to push sales. Someone in this thread already exampled McFarlane's fundraiser for the Super Powers line and how it was seen as a negatives.
And I'm sure that anon regrets bringing that up, because it proves how this thread is full of shills who want to to shoutout any negative talk about 4H and need to work on a whole new set of logic.

Nevermind McFarlane only lowered their goalposts, which shows that they're not that hard up for money. 4H straight up removed their goalposts, which is a far more desperate act for money... despite already raising a million dollars.

If this were any other company or another thread, people would be worrying about 4H's money situation.
But because 4H employees post in this thread, you're not allowed to have a normal discussion and not pretending that everything is fine is shitposting.

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Anyone else interested in this? Its been going up for preorder on all the sites and I think it looks fucking amazing. I would buy it asap but it's that weird 1/12th scale that's actually 9.45" inches tall. that includes the tip of his helmet though. And I've never bought from Underverse before.

>>11750558
Not for the prices I've seen, it's a fantastic looking figure but that's a high ticket for something I know nothing about. It's very pretty, as any Amano piece of art usually ends up, but I don't even know if it's from some sort of franchise or if it's a toy original concept.

I do have that one Vampire Hunter D figure on order, so that'll fill my need for an Amano based figure. I also have that Play Arts Kai Terra figure, who is also fantastic and very close to his art.

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>>11750558
it's too big to even say 1:10 kek, at this point it's just a marketing tag.
>>11750674
maybe it already exists, but I'd love to see Castlevania figures to that level of quality, like the Vampire Hunter D one.

>>11750483
>And then at every step they decided to make it so the figures don't actually work well AS army builders.
It's not just that. (And don't get me wrong, I'm annoyed about the Cleric being the base figure instead of the Paladin which would have opened it up for army building.) It's the fact that this is for a TTRPG, and there were only two enemy types that were at that base figure price. Hell, it didn't even include goblins AT ALL until that late stretch goal addition. Baffling.

Let's just use the most basic bitch of dungeon crawlers as an example.
Hero Quest has goblins, orcs, skeletons, mummies, zombies, fimirs/abominations and chaos knights/dread warriors. Plus the two "boss" miniatures with the Gargoyle and Warlock, but I will ignore them for now. Let's focus on the mobs.
We got a skeleton and orc, but they easily could have included a goblin, a zombie, and an evil knight. (No, I don't count the Dark Paladin pallette swap. We needed a fully armored heavy knight.)
And let's just use a Bog Goblin as the base 1.0 gobbo body, and use the Varg and Boarrior being upgrade packs idea I floated earlier, along with the Dark Paladin being a base figure with an upgrade pack instead, and with the goblin cleric and paladin upgrade packs. And the Lore Master being changed to include a bare Vampire torso and legs.
That's 7 base price enemy figures:
>Orc
>Skeleton
>Bog goblin/tank gobbo
>Goblin horde
>Zombie
>Evil Knight
>Dark Paladin
Plus all the additional enemy classes/races from upgrade packs.

And really, I can understand leaving a few things for the next expansion to the game. I'd probably save the zombie for that, but the omission of a goblin and an evil knight feels egregious.
Finally, there is an Ogre Cyclops on the box. They should have included him plus an upgrade packs for the boss type enemy.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

>>11750483
>It's like a toddler learning a new word
Did you see the thread where someone called the McFarlane War of the Rohirrim figures bottom of the barrel and he spent the entire thread calling everything and everyone "bottom of the barrel" until the thread died?
There are 22 instances of the word "goalposts" in the thread, and only two of them are not his posts, and they are both quoting him in a reply. His last post has four instances in it.
The same post where he is trying to play coy and pretending he is just innocently wondering why they unlocked the last couple of stretch goals in the final week, despite the fact that several anons explained why and he chose to ignore them to keep babbling about poor sales and 4H being desperate. He's already said in the past that he will never buy anything from 4H again, so it's obvious he has no real interest in the Kickstarter and is just trying to start shit. He's so dumb that he thinks nobody can see through his bullshit.

It's also funny that he's trying to claim I accused him of making up conspiracy theories when I replied to that post he is referring to. The conversation goes:
>anon saying Subby's lies and conspiracy theories stifle discussion
>me replying to that anon
>him replying to me saying I accused him of making up conspiracy theories
He can't even follow a basic conversation on on 4chan.
All of his actions really do paint him as someone with the intellectual capacity of a toddler.

>>11750550
>Nevermind McFarlane only lowered their goalposts, which shows that they're not that hard up for money.
And now he's trying to compare unlocking the last couple of stretch goals that don't require new tooling in the final week after getting 12 times the funding goal to McFarlane lowering the goal for the Super Powers crowdfund from $600k to $145k (and extending the deadline twice) because it wasn't even going to reach the minimum goal for it to get made AT ALL.
So Todd inflated the initial goal by over 300% and that's good? He was literally begging for more money than he needed and then panicked when his little vanity project was going to fail due to his greed.
You do understand that unlocking the last couple of stretch goals in the final week (that don't need new tooling, and one of which was a last minute addition due to fan demand) is completely different to the mad shuffle that Todd did because his shitty crowdfund was going to FAIL COMPLETELY, right?
Of course you don't. Your brain is from bizarro world.

>>11750674
It's an original artwork they used as a base and Amano helped with the design process every step of the way.

>>11750709
You'd think with the popularity of that Netflix show, someone would've taken a crack at some Castlevania figures. Even a chinese company doing unofficial ones or something. But sadly only ones I know about are the old NECA figures. They do LOOK great, but they don't really play well (and the Succubus was very much a statue), but they also cost absurd amounts on the secondary market.

>>11750723
I didn't even consider how most of the evil figures were all up-priced deluxe packs, hell I didn't even register the fact that *all* of the Stretch Goal figures and packs were evil characters to begin with. The more you sit back and look at the whole offering, the more poorly thought out it feels.

Also, I really feel the evil Paladin should've used the new Cleric body. It's the *only* new molded body introduced by this project, and doesn't see any reuse? That's just kind of nuts to me. For as much as they're getting by the end of this, it would've been nice to see some more newly tooled parts.

>>11750768
I always do enjoy your mathematical examination of his insane ramblings. Really puts it into perspective how crazy someone is when you show how frequently they repeat the same absurd lies over and over again.

>>11750770
I fell for one of McFarlane's Crowdfunding scams with the Medieval Spawn figure. I'll admit, the overall price for what you got in he box wasn't bad, and the presentation of said box was very much stellar. But the figure itself turned out to be a bit of a mess and no better then any of his normal retail junk, except with more paint and a couple of gimmicky magnets. I've paid more for less overall stuff with many other figures, but at least with them the figures at least are usually fantastic.

>>11750846
Ah cool, good to know. Again, it's a beautiful piece, but not one I'm willing to drop money on.

>>11750768
>shit that never happened
Lemme quote what i said in that thread that you're talking about
>>>11221491 They've created a fantasy world to deflect and invalidate all criticism about a toy/toyline
First of all, OP was asking if HE hit rock bottom because he bought a bunch of barely articulated figures just because he thought the BAF was cool.
Second of all, my first post in that thread was to tell OP that he hadn't hit rock bottom, and posted a picture to bring out all the actual rock bottom posters on /toy/ to make OP feel better about himself
Lemme quote that too
>>>11220771 You still haven't hit rock bottom. You're still conscious of your actions and have humility. Rock bottom involves defending it and pretending it's better than it really is. There's quite a few fanbases on this board with brown noses and sore bottoms. If you want to see what rock bottom actually looks like....
You exemplify this, since here you are, making shit up, because someone wonders why 4H is removing their goalposts because sales aren't going as planned and that anyone involved in the company should be worried about this desperate behavior.

You're open to criticize McFarlane's goalpost movement, yet are crying troll because someone does the same thing for 4H doing something worse. Yes, it is worse, because McFarlane didn't hit their goal, whereas 4H did hit their goal and STILL needs to remove their goalposts.

BTW, I'm still waiting for you to prove your post from here >>11749788
Like i said, if you can prove it, I'll never return to these threads again.
Or did you make this up, because you just want to derail the thread to deflect anyone questioning why 4H is acting like they're desperate for money?

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Could some more familiar with the Mythic Legions parts help me out with these.

Is the Skeleton Fighter basically a Graveyard Skeleton? I assume the greaves and bracers are molded on, correct? Or could those be taken off. I assume everything else can be taken off?

And for Rix, are those shin parts and bracelets molded on? And that body armor is a single piece, not something on top of the skeletal torso, correct?

Has anyone gotten their Blackstone Conan yet

>>11751391
The Skeleton Fighter is basically the Skeleton Raider with the new Valiant Knight Bracers and Greaves instead of base bone parts. The wrist and shins aren't "molded on", they're just separate pieces that can be popped off and swapped with other wrist and shin pieces while the hip piece is the standard non-descript hip joint most figures use and *needs* to be hidden under a belt.

It is NOT a Graveyard Skeleton build. There is no way to make it an entirely naked skeleton.

He does have a new head though, it's a skull keyed to fit some newer swappable hair and helmet parts. But just taking off the helmet will leave him with an incomplete head.

As for Rix, the torso is very much a solid piece...sort of (it's actually two pieces, the main body with a leather armor 'faceplate'. Most of the leather armor torsos share that trick). The bracelets CAN come off, but the shin parts can not. They are a solid swappable piece that works with the newer Boot Cut builds. With him you can remove the shins and swap on either cuffed or fur boots instead. If you want a full bare bone though, you'd need to remove the entire leg from the knee and swap it with a donor from another figure. Unfortunately the only other figures who have bare bone shins in this color are Maxillius the Harvester and the aforementioned Skeleton Raider.

It's honestly kind of annoying how resistant they are to just releasing a basic, naked skeleton in the same color almost every other skeleton in the line uses.

>>11751427
I haven't even gotten an email explaining that it was delayed yet.

>>11751430
Ok so if that's the case then I guess the Fighter has the old 1.0 Skeleton arms since it has the swappable bracers, but Rix does have those Graveyard arms with a bit more range, right?

Any idea if the torso of the Fighter can be used on Rix? Or if that can't be done, would the arms and lower legs be swapped between them?

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>>11751357
the Egg Toys D figure is just so close to Alucarda, I'll just pray they give it a shot.

>>11751484
*Alucard, I've been watching too many horror films

>>11751463
The upper arms of the Skeleton fighter are the newer bone arms, as they don't have the glued on armor bits the original skeletons came with. They should have just as much range as the completely bare bone arms since, again, the bicep part is the same.

The torsos can't be swapped though, the Raider's chest is actually the same as the Graveyard skeleton and the ball joint is up in their ribcage. The only waist that body can work with are the Graveyard bare pelvis or the Raider waist with the built in spine.

You can however pop the legs out at the hips themselves and swap em there or swap the entire lower legs at the knee. The arms should also work without issue since the upper arms are shared between em anyway.

>>11746141
>>11746203
Christ, what is taking them so long? This figure was originally supposed to be out when, Nov or Dec of last year? I just want my figure already.

>>11751543
No idea, it's pretty ridiculous, especially considering retailers have had it for a month now. The official store is literally going to be the last place to ship it.

>>11751357
>I always do enjoy your mathematical examination of his insane ramblings
Hold on to your butts. I've been counting things in the archive. Keep reading this post. You'll love it.

>>11751378
>didn't happen
That's right. It was "rock bottom," not "bottom of the barrel." Yes, OP used it and then you kept overusing it. 3 times in your first reply. 3 times in the second. Calling people "rock bottom collectors" and "rock bottom fanboys" because you had just discovered a new phrase. >>11224715 has SIX instances alone.
From the first 42 instances of "rock bottom" in the thread, 30 of them were your.THIRTY. That's as many as three tens. And that's terrible.
By the end of the thread, there were 83 instances of "rock bottom" posted. 55 were you.

FIFTY FIVE.

Thanks for linking back to the thread. I couldn't have proved how retarded you are without your help. I might have got the phrase you flogged into glue wrong, but i definitely remembered you latching onto a new phrase like a toddler that just heard a cool new word.

>>11751378
>because someone wonders why 4H is removing their goalposts because sales aren't going as planned
We explained it to you and you chose to ignore our explanation and keep trying to spin it as poor sales and 4H being desperate. That was the first clue that you weren't arguing in good faith or looking for a real discussion. You were only here to troll about a toy company you have repeatedly said you will never buy from again, because the only reason you come to this thread is to shitpost.
Stop it with the innocent act. Nobody is buying it, unlike Four Horsemen's Kickstarter that just hit $1.3 milly.

>You're open to criticize McFarlane's goalpost movement
Do you not understand the difference between the initial funding REQUIRED for a Kickstarter, and a stretch goal? Do you not understand that stretch goals are bonuses they choose to add to the Kickstarter because they are ALREADY FULLY FUNDED? This is why it is common for stretch gals to be automatically unlocked in the final week without hitting the amount they ask for.
"Thanks, we hit out goal, but here's a cool bonus you can add to your pledge if we hit X amount. Actually, it's the final week and we've already hit a milly. Fuck it, Goblin unlocked so you can just pledge for the Goblin as your main pledge since so many of you requested a gobbo."
It's COMPLETELY different to changing the amount you NEED to fund the main project, or the campaign period.
Both of which aren't even permitted on Kickstarter.

>>11751378
>BTW, I'm still waiting for you to prove your post from here >>11749788
Sorry Subs, that wasn't me. Once again you are proving that you can't follow a conversation.
But we are all still waiting for you to prove that you own more than 3 Mythic Legions figures from another thread a couple of months ago. Remember when you claimed that? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Hell, just post three new fantasy figures that have come out in the last year that you've bought. PROVE you are in this thread because you want to discuss fantasy figures and aren't here just to troll.
Post three brand new fantasy figures that were released within the last 12 months in front of an electrical socket with a timestamp.
12 months. Surely you've bought three new fantasy figures since the Medieval Spawn shipped in February last year, right? There are so many to choose from. Savage Crucible, Frazetta Girls, Palm Elf Empire, Figma Dungeon Meshi, Figma and SHF Berserk, Metytoyz and Mithril Action 3rd party WoW figures, Snail Shell's fantasy subline, Loose Collector werewolves, Axytoys dinosaur warriors.
Anything? Or are you just here to shitpost like you always do?

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>>11751357
>But sadly only ones I know about are the old NECA figures.
Diamond Select Toys did a few figures for the Netflix animated series. I nearly bought Sylpha. They did these three and Dracula, but I think that was it.

>>11751776
nta but I was gonna say, asking for Castlevania figures at the moment is monkey paw because they'll be from the anime and not Amano's art

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>>11751732
>you proved everything i said was bullshit but I'm going to create a new argument so i can endlessly derail the thread so no one will be allowed to talk about the topic!
no shit?
>Sorry Subs, that wasn't me. Once again you are proving that you can't follow a conversation.
oh, so there's two anons making shit up to derail the thread? Sad.
>Post three brand new fantasy figures
Why? I'm not pretending to be anyone else but myself and i proved I was a 4H fanboy ages before you started coming to these threads, so there's no reason for me to prvoe anything. You're just creating endless goalposts because you got proven wrong time after time and want to derail the thread.

>We explained it to you and you chose to ignore our explanation
No, you explained WHAT the purpose for 4H removing the goalposts is but not the WHY. The goal is to get more sales (and considering how flat sales have been, they failed in that), but it doesn't explain the WHY they removed the goalposts.
You've (the collective shills) been purposely avoiding saying that sales are poor or 4H is in need of money, like everyone would be saying if it wasn't about Mythic Legions, because you're company employees where even hinting something is wrong is Hitler Satanism.

>>11751846
>I make straw man arguments when other anons prove I am like toddler that has discovered a new word
No shit?
>oh, so there's two anons making shit up to derail the thread?
No, it's just you derailing the thread with your usual delusional shit. As usual.
>Why?
Because we all suspect (know) that you don't actually care about fantasy figures. You only come here to shitpost and cry about Four Horsemen like a preschooler that dropped his ice-cream.
And you've proven it by refusing to post any new figures you've bought in the last year that are related to the thread. Like you said here >>11738012 this is how you fight trolls.
Of course, it's hard to post new figures when you don't even buy toys anymore.
>i proved I was a 4H fanboy
Buying one figure every few years isn't what a fanboy does. You are barely the equivalent of a casual who only owns a best of album and claims he is a huge fan of the band, and constantly bitches that their old stuff is better than their new stuff while not knowing any songs that weren't on the Billboard top 100.
>muh goalposts
>muh shills
>muh poor sales
>muh company employees
Have you considered updating the prompts for your AI so you have new material to troll with?

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>>11751846
The fact that you can't figure out WHY they opened up the last couple of stretch goals proves how poorly your brain functions.
The goblin was the final stretch goal. It's not an add on like stretch goals usually are for many campaigns. They've been putting all the unlocked figures as main pledges since the first one unlocked. And people asked how they were supposed to pledge for just the goblin if it didn't unlock until the last minute.
So they unlocked it so that people that only want the goblin could lock in their pledge in the last week instead of missing out if it only unlocked in the final minutes. And since they unlocked that one, they may as well unlock the other two stretch goals.
They didn't tell people to pledge for another figure and add the extra money in case it unlocks, which was how Kickstarters have done it in the past and would have gotten an extra figure sold for every person that wanted a goblin. That's what they would have done if they were "desperate for sales." They did it so people could back JUST the goblin instead of maybe missing out.
Does your infantile brain get it yet? Or are you going to resort to twisting a Kickstarter getting 6x it's funding on day 1 into some bizarre "poor sales" conspiracy rant for multiple posts because you are paranoid and suspicious of everything 4H do because they are your arch enemies that literally haunt your dreams?
Not that you need to. You've been doing that all week.

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>>11751776
......I didn't know those things were actually real, I thought they were some AI slop spam with how awful they look.

>>11751970
You're arguing with a guy who's claiming the 4H are desperate for money on a Kickstarter project that's gone 1500% past their minimum goal. Any rational person would assume if they were in such a "need" for money, why would they set their actual goal so low?

With previous Kickstarters, stretch goals needed to meet their funding requirements to actually help pay to get that item made. This one, all of the stretch goals already exist, none of em need new tooling or introduce new parts, so the stretch goal numbers are just entirely arbitrary and there to give people something to "work" towards. Overall this entire kickstarter kind of sucked, the main offerings are great, but all of the goals felt lack luster, poorly planned and over priced. There's plenty to complain about with how this one went....and this moron is stuck focused on the fact that they just said "Ah screw it" with their last goal so people could pledge for a figure they already make.

This dude isn't even competent enough to complain about the 4H in a way that makes valid sense as criticism

Anyway, speaking of the Kickstarter, I'm pretty sure I finally finalized my final pledge. I had budgeted for the $400 range, but with nothing good past the initial offering I ended up with something closer to $350. Guess that just means more to drop on the upcoming In Stock sale.

A lot of these figures I'm getting just because they're cheap parts, the barbarian legs and cat head sets are both pretty good deals when you consider buying just those parts on the secondary market. I guess eight figures and four accessory packs is a decent enough addition to the collection, but I was honestly hoping for something more exciting from this project then what we ended up with.

I finally decided on my pledge. I had a bit more cash to spare, but still didn't want to go too crazy.
>1x Exclusive Green Paladin
>2x Orc
>2x Skeleton Warrior
>1x Rix
>1x Evil Head pack
I decided $15 wasn't worth it for the bag of skulls pack, even if it is KS exclusive. I've already got a couple of each of those skulls that I'm not using.
If we get a backerkit, I'll grab the rest of the stuff I want then, which is mostly just more skeletons and orcs. Hopefully this sends them a message that we want cheap army builders.

>>11752035
>You're arguing with a guy who's claiming the 4H are desperate for money on a Kickstarter project that's gone 1500% past their minimum goal
I know. Please kill me.
>This one, all of the stretch goals already exist
I know, and I'm pretty sure I already told him that. We've repeatedly told him why they unlocked the stretch goals for the last week. Do you think my last post spelling it out for him will get through his thick skull? I know, of course not. Who the hell am I kidding?
>This dude isn't even competent enough to complain about the 4H in a way that makes valid sense as criticism
I'm pretty sure criticising how badly they've fumbled everything in this Kickstarter other than the first 4 figures (and even those were partial fumbles) will exonerate us both from being seen as shills and company employees, right?
RIGHT?

But hey, I just posted what my pledge is immediately after your post. Though I wish I hadn't read your post now, because now I'm thinking those cat parts would be good, and I need a Barbarian pack or 2 for my extra Deluxe Legion Builder Barbarian and/or Gladiator. And that dwarf is also nifty, and I could use the Rogue for the spare heads from K'ai Pacha in the upcoming Agbendor wave...
But no, I'm happy with what I locked in. That Exclusive Paladin and the army builders were the main priority.
If I have enough funds when/if the backerkit hits, I'll add to it. Looking at your pic, that's almost exactly what I plan on adding, minus the exclusive, the mage, and the weapons pack. And I'll add a head pack to paladin-ise my clerics. One can have the coif and one can have the bucket helm.
I'm still on the fence with the goblin. I've already said it, but if there was a $30 gobbo to use the extra heads on, I wouldn't be on the fence at all.

I hadn't followed the campaign super closely this time, so I didn't keep up with all the infos. But I assume there will be a backer kit as per usual? And will it have the same prices as during the kickstarter?

>>11752120
>But I assume there will be a backer kit as per usual? And will it have the same prices as during the kickstarter?
I asked earlier in the thread here >>11749972 but as you can see from the reply, no official word.
I'm hoping they do, but I made sure I locked in the Kickstarter exclusive figure just in case.

>>11752130
thank you! Shame there isn't more concrete info, I guess I'll lock in the exclusives too then

>>11752136
Yeah, I kind of assume they will have one, but I also decided to play it safe. The only stuff that is exclusive is the Deluxe Paladin from SDCC, the corresponding miniature (which is only in some packages like the beginner box set), the Bag of Skulls pack, the soft enamel pin, and the exclusive orange smokey dice.

>>11752076
Had they offered more of those stretch goals as $30 base figures with add on sets like the initial four figures got, I would have a MUCH bigger order. Hell. I'm still kinda tempted to add more Rogues, maybe even a Dwarf or two for those new legs. But with the In-Stock sale this month, I'm trying to be responsible and save some budget for any surprise items they may drop. I know I'll be grabbing a Warrior/Revenant set at the very least, but if they also drop the Pre-Built Armory figures, that in-stock sale will probably cost me more then the Kickstarter.

That said, I feel they're leaving a lot of money on the table by not pricing their figures cheaper during this thing. I was initially excited by this line as I was hoping to pick up cheaper figures using newer parts and rarer builds. But instead of adding more low priced base figures, they kept dropping "deluxe packs" that got more and more expensive using parts they've released dozens of times already. Really puts a damper on the whole "Build your figure a la cart" experience they were initially pushing when all the subsequent figures and sets are all high priced, specifically designed deluxe packs.

And that Vampire Loremaster set is just a straight mess. I have no idea what happened with that one.

>>11752120
>>11752130
>>11752136
>>11752149
So there WILL be a Backer Kit period, or at least something similar, where you'll be able to add to and/or change your pledge after the project ends. They haven't mentioned any real specifics that I've seen, but they have talked about people adding things after the project is over.

HOWEVER, if you only pledged for the $1 tier, that will NOT let you access any additional backerkit period or add anything to your pledge. The cheapest tier that would give you access to any post project add-ons is the Dice set at $25 or just grabbing a full figure for $30.

>>11752172
>your whole post regarding the Kickstarter
There is not a single point I disagree with. I am pretty sure we have both linked to the same hivemind.
Let me just reiterate that not having at least a couple more $30 enemy figures to build up some mobs for a line tied to a TTRPG is really really shit. I am kind of relieved since I had financial issues and didn't even get everything I wanted anyway, but it still deserves criticism.
And the way they just kind of forgot about upgrade packs after the first 4 (except the shitty lore master one) also showed a lack of planning. I honestly expected more for each figure to, you know, change race and class like they were talking about. And none for the orc, skeleton and Rix? Just lazy. Like there should have been a pack to upgrade the orc from a naked berserker to an armoured tank.that included a breastplate torso. That's where I would have put the alt orc head and a couple of weapons.
Honestly, I'm probably going to brainstorm some shit that I would like to see for the next add-on to the RPG in the next thread. Expect me to go full Listanon on this.

>So there WILL be a Backer Kit period, or at least something similar
Cool. Hopefully it takes them a couple of weeks to sort that out. That should let me recover and build up funds OH FUCK THE IN-STOCK SALE. Hopefully it stays open for about a month. I think I wanted two Revenants, a Valgard, and at least two Scaphoids. Was that fish dude from Legionscon also supposed to go up? If so, him too. I'm not too fussed on the armory figures, but might grab one or two. White orc was the one that stood out the most, and maybe the black demon. And old man Magnus was decent.
>HOWEVER, if you only pledged for the $1 tier, that will NOT let you access any additional backerkit period or add anything to your pledge
That's pretty standard. I'm safe. I ordered calcium.

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I think this is my plan, but I intend to get them through a local retailer, so I might or might not add something more depending on the final prices, maybe some other accessories like the palading pack or whatever.

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Is pic related the only pic of the necro dice? I'm kinda tempted, but I'd like a better look first. Maybe that's something to add on later.

>just realized Rix has a vampire skull
well he just jumped from a probably to a definitely

>>11752200
The biggest irony is that the ONLY stretch goal figure to be set at that $30 army builder price point is also the ONLY named character in the entire project. The one you figure SHOULD have been a high priced deluxe pack set ends up being the only discount stretch goal of the whole thing.

Also, the fact they didn't use the new 2.0 build for him will never not irk me. It would've made him both unique in the line and unique as a character, while teeing up a perfect base body for a more mage like "Lore Master" figure add on set. The many odd decisions in this KS will frustrate me for a long time.

As for the In-Stock sale, once they put em up they'll stay up till sold out. If it's anything like previous year's in stock sales, the newer Exclusive releases will have TONS of stock and last months while only the "found" stock from the previous big waves (Nerco and AS6) will actually go fast. Though the FO stuff will only be up a short while before being pulled back down, gotta push the FOMO with those guys.

>>11752204
The fact that these things will be in retail is one of the few reasons I'm not going harder on getting spares for custom swapping.

>>11752234
Literally the only interesting thing about him.

Also, in other news, I just got my OxKrewe wave 2 in.....and I am very much done with Cosmic after this. Only got two figures this time, one of em being Not-Buzz-Off with a plan to put him with my Mythic figures. Well I get him in hand, swap his space boots for standard fantasy jagged boots and start messing with him some....and I am just not feeling it. The human arms and legs just don't work with the bug pieces, and the stripped body does not look less ridiculous in person. I'm trying to figure out the best thing to do with him and all I can think right now is to slap normal hands on him, toss a on bearded head and just make him another barbarian.

So two hours left to go on the Kickstarter, and just like predicted in this very OP *three weeks ago* they're on track to break that 1.5 mil milestone. Currently 52k away from that point with over 3k backers.

If you want cheap figures from this line, this will be *the* cheapest way to get them. They're expected to ship by the end of THIS year as production on the new parts has already begun and most of the figures are made of already tooled pieces to begin with.

>>11751985
Yes, peoeple like money and they'll (theoritically) make more money buy removing their goalposts a week early (except they didn't). Again, you keep repeating the motivation for the WHAT, but not the WHY. You're purposely avoiding a behavior that everyone in any other thread would rightfully categorize as a company experiencing bad sales or being in need of money, because they removed the goalposts on their kickstarter

>>11752035
>You're arguing with a guy who's claiming the 4H are desperate for money on a Kickstarter project that's gone 1500% past their minimum goal
Extremely fault logic, retard. It's like saying just because Trump/Enron/Bill Gates are rich that they'd never pull an underhanded scheme to make more money or experience money issues.
Again, 4H is removing the goalposts on their kickstarter like companies do when they experience poor sales. Nevermind someone said that some goals are also UNPOPULAR, so why unlock something that would garner poor sales too?
You keep avoiding the obvious conclusions, because it makes 4H look bad


>>11751970
>everything i said was literally disproven and i literally made up a new argument to continue arguing, but you're strawmanning me!
You sound like the contrarian from the GI Joe thread and are probably just shitposting in this thread because you saw me posting here. So i wonder, do you own any Mythic LEgion figures? The fact you were butthurt from that thread where OP hit rock bottom ALSO points toward you being a WH40k third worlder and i don't remember anyone in the WH40k or Mythic LEgion threads owning both lines... aside from myself.
And that's hilarious that you keep saying I don't care about fantasy figures, despite constantly posting fantasy figures.
Again, you're literally making shit up just to try and derail the thread, because you hate that someone is suspicious about the motivations for 4H removing the goalposts like a million other companies do when they're desperate for money

>>11752322
They're doing their last minute livestream thing and people are donating so they can do some give aways for those watching the stream. If you wanna take your chance at getting some free crap, might as well pop on to the One:Six Shooter youtube page and take your chances to get in on the raffles.

Also, it hit the 1.5 with an hour left.

>>11752371
It's finally over, final total was $1,560,335, about 10-20k more then expected with 3528 backers. The average pledge was $440ish and the most popular add on was the Monster Builder Varg/Boarrior pack (which I admit I broke down and added one last minute. A Boarrior will be a great sidekick to the Gnole coming out later this year). During their little telethon thing to end the project they managed to get enough donations to raffle off five or so different sets of extra pledges.

Financially, it was a very successful campaign, and it seemed to do the work of getting the game out there to the RPG playing public. Though we'll see how well it does when it eventually hits retail. Personally I feel there were a LOT of poor decisions made with the figure packages, but I still dropped cash on it so I guess it wasn't all bad.

I'm proud of myself. I only spent $180.

>>11752426
I'm jealous of your self restraint. I keep telling myself I don't need more of these guys.....and then I go buy more.

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>>11752334
>Yes, peoeple like money and they'll
People like being able to pledge for the figure they want. 4H made that possible.
>Again, you keep repeating the motivation for the WHAT, but not the WHY.
I explained it, but you don't seem to understand English. Would you prefer Korean,, AAVE, Swahili, Spanish, Portuguese, or Arabic?
>bad sales
>iT rAiSeD $600k oN DaY OnE sO tHe OnLy ReAsOn To ReMoVe GoAlPoStS wAs BeCaUsE oF bAd SaLeS
It's almost like your brain can't process information. Or you are making a bad faith argument. Can't tell if troll or retarded.

>everything i said was literally disproven
The only thing I got wrong was the phrase you spammed. 55 instances of you saying "rock bottom" in a thread where every anon's combined total was 28.
FIFTY FIVE.
You really are like a toddler that learned a new word and keeps repeating it.
>So i wonder, do you own any
I have posted 50x the figures you have over the years. You've only ever posted 3 Mythic Legions, Ramathorr, plus Xetheus, Scarabus and a timekeeper still in their packets. That's not counting your folder of stolen pics you shitpost with. You haven't even posted a new figure you bought in 6 years because you can't afford to buy toys anymore.
>The fact you were butthurt from that thread where OP hit rock bottom ALSO points toward you being a WH40k
Watching you sperg out in that thread was hilarious, so i don't get why you'd think I'm butthurt. I guess autistic people really do have trouble identifying emotions. And I'm not from the 40k thread just because I happened to witness you shitting up another thread. You do that pretty often. Everyone that browses the board has seen you shit up at least a dozen threads. Hell, you can't even tell who I am in this thread, so your post recognition ability is completely broken.
>despite constantly posting fantasy figures
Stolen photos of QC issues posted on Facebook don't count. You don't buy toys these days, which is why wouldn't post them.
Toyless poorfag shitposter.

>>11752514
>Watching you sperg out in that thread was hilarious
Says the stalker who follows me from thread to thread, making up a fantasy world and trying to get back at me by shitting up your own thread.
I mean, earlier you got everything wrong and then made more shit up after i corrected you, and then you say I'm somehow strawmanning you.
Just a couple of posts ago you claimed I don't care about fantasy figures, but of course you need to ignore all the photos I've taken, which you're only now selectively remembering. Completely arbitrary to suit your insane logic, because you act like you need to defend 4H at any cost like an employee.

>I explained it
No, just like your selective memory, you're ignoring important things continue living in your fantasy world.
See this post? >>11751985
He does a good job of explaining the reason for removing the goalposts, but he's completely ignoring WHY they removed the goalpost. He's purposely ignoring steps 1 to get to steps 2, 3 and 4.

He talks all about the goblin being the last stretchgoals and how removing the goalposts can allow everyone who backed it from day one. His explanation ignores step one, which is WHY did they remove the goalpost?
It's plainly obvious that 4H expected to hit the last stretch goal pretty early and because sales were weaker than expected, they had to remove their goalposts a full week before the end.
Again, 4H made it obvious that they were having lower than expected sales and they tried to drum up sales, which screams desperatation. Most any other kickstarter naturally lets this happen, probably rubbing their hands greedily on the last two days of sales, but not 4H.
Despite making over a million dollars, they did a desperate act, which looks really bad... except to shills, who want to ignore that removing the goalposts is a bad thing when your employer does it.

>b-b-but I'm not shill!
Then why do you act like one? Maybe you aren't, hence me believing you're the contrarian from the GI Joe thread

What a weird hill to die on

>>11752565
>btw your cropped photo nicely hides your third world room
Gotta be careful, because there are stalkers (You) that will save other anons' pics and try to track them in other threads. And you already tried to identify who I am and if might be from the Joe or 40k thread. I'm just following your advice that you gave here >>11738012 to prevent you using my pic for shitposting purposes, like you did with another anon in that very post. Like you've done in many threads. Wasn't there a guy with the same computer as you that you stalked until he quit /toy/? He's probably still here, but he's just more careful now that he's realised there are psychopaths that form parasocial attachments on this board.
You should also stop projecting by calling people third worlders when you live in a majority Hispanic city where whites are a minority.

>stalker
I didn't realise I'm not allowed to browse any other threads you decide to shitpost in. It's not my fault that you are an obvious retard that makes your presence known in almost every thread you go into because you immediately start sperging about the same old shit you always sperg about, like you did in that thread by sperging about Joytoy right away. Besides, we've already established you stalk plenty of anons, so I guess you are projecting as usual.
>Just a couple of posts ago you claimed I don't care about fantasy figures, but of course you need to ignore all the photos I've taken
Sorry, I might have forgotten a shitty McFarlane Witcher figure you posted one time. I probably remember the 4H ones better because you SPAM THEM RELENTLESSLY.
You need to prove that you are interested in fantasy figures in the current year. You can't claim you play football and then say the proof is a highschool yearbook photo. If you can't even post one newish figure from the last 12 months, you are proving me right.
>Completely arbitrary to suit your insane logic
It's your logic. "This is how you fight trolls." Your exact words.

>>11752565
Part 2
>See this post?
That's me. I told you that your ability to identify posters was broken, and yet you are sure that I'm from the GI Joe thread? I doubt you could identify your own ass while you are sitting on it. I doubt you would pass the mirror test.
>He's purposely ignoring steps 1
Step 1 was fans (real fans that buy their toys, not "fans" like you) asking how they were supposed to pledge for just the Goblin if it didn't unlock until the last minute.
Step 2 was 4H reading the question.
Step 3 was 4H thinking about how they could make it easy for backers so that they could just back the Goblin.
If that was too difficult to figure out, you might be cognitively impaired. How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
>He talks all about the goblin being the last stretchgoals and how removing the goalposts can allow everyone who backed it from day one.
Day one? What the fuck are you talking about? This reads like a covfefe moment, like you stroked out mid sentence, and it also reveals how completely inadequate your English comprehension is.
Try reading that post again.
>It's plainly obvious that 4H expected to hit the last stretch goal pretty early
That stretch goal wasn't even added until the last 9 days of the Kickstarter, as posted here >>11743924
And it's "plainly obvious that 4H expected to hit the last stretch goal pretty early" despite it not being added until late in the Kickstarter?
You dumb cunt. Seriously, how retarded are you to make up such a fucking ridiculous claim without even doing the most basic bit of research?
Too bad you didn't own up to being a troll, because you could have gotten away with the "I was only pretending to be retarded" defense. If only you stopped when the Kickstarter finished, then you wouldn't have revealed how much of an ESL sped you are.
Not that we didn't know already.

Well, the Legions RPG stuff went up at BBTS.
Base figures +$5 ($35)
Character, accessory and head packs +$5
Except the Enemies head pack which is only +$2 bringing it to $12.
Deluxe figures +$10
The biggest surprise is they included the SDCC exclusive Paladin. Was not expecting that. I was sure it was an exclusive since originally it was not only exclusive, but limited to only a certain amount before they made it unlimited.

>>11752690
Thanks for the heads up, apparently the core book didn't see a price increase so I grabbed it from bbts instead.

And yea, surprising to see the sdcc paladin getting a retail option. I figured all the other paladins would've helped fill that gap of him being an exclusive, but when fans demand something enough, the 4H usually listen.

>>11752664
>That's me.
That's a relief. Thank god there isn't another anon who is purpsoely being obtuse just to argue
>Step 1 was fans asking how they were supposed to pledge for just the Goblin if it didn't unlock until the last minute
Literally not step one, because 4H set their goalposts this way because they were extremely confident they would hit the last unlock much sooner. Their sales expectations was step one and everything follows from there. The demand was not there, hence 4H's act of desperation.
So you sound like a 4H employee because you try your best to avoid saying that sales are weak, because marketers get fired for even hinting at negativity.

And yeah, i know that you're trying your best to obscure who you are, like most shitposting samefags do, but no one is stalking you. Being recognized ≠ stalking. You admit to following me from thread to thread, to threads you have no interest in to harass me: this is stalking. Definition of the word differences right here.
My recognizing your photos and your contrarian posting style in threads i've been posting ages before you came to /toy is noticing a pattern of recognition. So your dingy photos are shared only by a few anons on /toy/, most prominently by the Dark Souls custom guy (he doesn't involve himself with wanting to create drama like you) and the third worlder with a table he's never cleaned after taking it out of a garbage dump, who is a contrarian from the WH40k thread. I recognize your photos too, because you've posted your customs before, and i recognize your posting style in many more threads than the toys you've posted. So it makes me wonder if you're a giant shitposter who only follows me around to cause problems for entire threads, despite not collecting them, like in the WH40k and GI Joe threads.
This would explain why the contrarian from the GI Joe thread has avoided taking photos and why you're suddenly cropping your photos, huh?

>>11752690
>The biggest surprise is they included the SDCC exclusive Paladin. Was not expecting that. I was sure it was an exclusive since originally it was not only exclusive, but limited to only a certain amount before they made it unlimited.
Did 4H say that they made another batch or is this just SDCC exclusive being a poor seller and 4H dumping their stock to BBTS?

4H loves claiming that things sell out all the time or that inventory is almost all gone, but then suddenly have a lot of stock at their next event or convention despite it disappearing from their store.

>>11753072
The expected final total of the Kickstarter from day 1 was always around 1.5 mil. Again, in the very OP of this thread, which was created THREE WEEKS AGO, it was stated that it was expected to reach that goal with no issues...which it did. This odd conspiracy theory you thought up claiming they were afraid of not reaching that final goal is absolute insanity.

>>11753075
The SDCC figure was originally going to be a limited release and only packed with pledges that included the game, but due to fan request they decided to just make him a normal figure like all the others. It was never left over stock, they always had a set number put aside for this KS. But again, after a large fan outcry to get more of that Paladin, the 4H decided to just make him a normal release for the KS and put him into production along side the rest of the figures.

And the reason they always have "new stock" for events is that they have set amount of stock for each event. When the figures sell out at the event, that's because they sold all they brought. But they have stock set aside for all the events they go to because they actually know what they're doing. It's kind of ridiculous and blatantly disingenuous to even claim that the SDCC Knight was a "poor seller" as it was one of the most demanded figure they put out this year.

>>11752690
>Well, the Legions RPG stuff went up at BBTS.
I think most of the KS stuff went up about the same amount if you choose a Late Pledge Reward since the close.

>>11753135
>in the very OP of this thread, which was created THREE WEEKS AGO, it was stated that it was expected to reach that goal with no issues
i asked about this in the thread and someone said the 1.5 mil goal came from kicktraq, which you can see here https://i.4cdn.org/toy/1775294781070190.png
So it's a meaningless number because it doesn't come from 4H themselves and was automated based on numbers after sales went flat.

4H's real estimations are seen by how they made an important figure the last unlock and the fact that they desperately moved removed their goalposts a week before the KS ended. Again, most Kickstarters (and companies in general) don't bother to do this, because they're happy with their sales

>he SDCC figure was originally going to be a limited release and only packed with pledges that included the game, but due to fan request they decided to just make him a normal figure like all the others. It was never left over stock
Doesn't sound like it. These posts >>11752690 >>11753033 refer to it as an SDCC exclusive and talk about their surprise.
Is there a post that everyone missed before SDCC happened where they announced changing the exclusivity on it? ... or did it happen after, because sales were that poor that it's taking up too much room that they require a toy store to take the stock off them?

>When the figures sell out at the event, that's because they sold all they brought.
The examples I was thinking of are actually their online sales, where everything should be sitting in a warehouse and not in their trunk. It just screams of FOMO scams when they announce shit gets sold out and then they come back "WHOA WE FOUND MORE STOCK", like that shit isn't automatically counted. I mean, maybe a store went out of business and they couldn't fulfill their orders, but this happens way too regularly. Nevermind the entire "STOCK IS EXTREMELY LIMITED", and gets "sold out", not appearing in later in stock sales, but appears at their convention booths.

>>11753072
>they were extremely confident they would hit the last unlock much sooner.
The final stretch goal was added on DAY 29 of a 38 DAY CAMPAIGN. They opened up the stretch goals 3 days later.
Your claim has absolutely no basis in reality.

>And yeah, i know that you're trying your best to obscure who you are
Because you are a creepy stalker that saves other anon's pics to shitpost with later. I sincerely wish you would die.

>You admit to following me from thread to thread, to thread
No I didn't, schizo. I mostly stay out of GI Joe, Marvel and DC because I know you waffle on in those threads. Most of the DC figures I buy are imports, so there is no point in going to the DC thread. I have almost zero interest in Marvel and if there is a figure I am interested in like the SDCC Sauron pack, I'll see it on TNI. And I don't care about GI Joe as much as I did when I was younger. I used to browse the thread, but your constant shitposting there grew tiring. I bet I could open the thread right now and there will be one of those pics you constantly spam.
>Checks thread
I fucking knew it. >>11753227 You can't help yourself. You are literally compelled to constantly shitpost.

It is not my fault that you constantly shit up the entire board like a fucking lunatic.
>Oh hey, someone is criticizing Todd's cheap ass shit. I think his toys suck too. Let's go in that thread. OH WHAT A FUCKING SURPRISE, SUBBY IS ALREADY IN HERE SPERGING OUT ABOUT JOYTOY FOR THE 10,000th TIME.

>My recognizing your photos
You don't recognize my photos. You can't even recognize my posts in this thread, and you've proved that. The rest of your post shows how paranoid you are. I don't collect 40k or make customs apart from with Legions.
>to cause problems for entire threads, despite not collecting them, like in the WH40k and GI Joe threads.
I bet you are the only one creating problems in those threads. Even at just a glance, I can tell the Joe thread is tired of your shit.
The whole board hates you.

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>>11753075
>4H loves claiming that things sell out all the time or that inventory is almost all gone, but then suddenly have a lot of stock at their next event or convention despite it disappearing from their store.
Do you know what allocated stock is?
They have been pretty open that they allocate a certain amount of stock to keep some so that they have something to sell at cons, or in the case of Figura Obscura, future drops.

>>11753237
>Is there a post that everyone missed before SDCC happened where they announced changing the exclusivity on it? ... or did it happen after, because sales were that poor
It was always intended to be included in the Kickstarter. The SDCC release was intended to be a sneak preview. What changed was it went from being limited to 1500 and limited to only being included in two bundles, to being able to be added to any pledge. And we thought it was going to be limited to just the Kickstarter, but BBTS also has them. That's the surprising part, but they do get a lot of limited exclusives anyway, like the Legionscon ones.

What are you going to try to shitpost about next?
For someone who claims to be a Four Horsemen fanboy, you really don't know a lot of basic information. It's almost like you aren't a fanboy at all, and you are just here to shit up the thread with attempted gotchas.
Imagine spending all of Easter Sunday shitposting about a toyline you don't collect. What a shitful existence. You should probably end it.

>>11753324
>I'm totally not samefagging
>t. guy who's cropping his photos to hide his room/display (wasn't even asked to post a photo, btw) and was caught lying three times in this thread starting with >>11750768
I mean, here you are lying even more
>Do you know what allocated stock is?
>The SDCC release was intended to be a sneak preview.
LMAO WAT
So they run out of "allocated" stock, thus it's ALL SOLD OUT? Sounds like FOMO bullshit tactics to scare people into buying more stock when they suddenly announce it's totally back. This is some carnie scamming quality logic.
Even worse, the "very limited" SDCC figure suddenly isn't limited but only after SDCC and after they needed to remove all the goalposts from their kickstarter.
So which is it, did 4H suffer such poor sales on the "special, limited edition item" at SDCC and Kickstarter that they need to get rid of stock by offloading it to BBTS
OR are 4H scammers who are lying about it being a "special, limited edition item" by producing even more?

>Your claim has absolutely no basis in reality.
But it is, because SOMETHING was supposed to be the last unlock. Not my fault if 4H is super unclear about their shit. you can't say nothing was planned, because the last thread mentions an unlock at 1.5million... which they barely hit, despite getting rid of their goalposts a week before the KS ended. The fact remains that 4H removed their goalposts because they hadn't reached their projected sales due to poor demand.
Again, NOBODY does this shit, except when a company has financial troubles

And don't pretend that the 1.5 million was their ultimate goal, because many popular Kickstarters explode on the last few days and a lot of creators expect it. This is why 4H had an unlock at 1.5m and if it had been popular, could have made the same amount of money as it did on the last days as it did on the first day(s) of the KS. So 4H was obviously counting on that money.

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>>11752204
Final preorder.
I like the classic looks of the Wizard and Cleric, and the general vibe of the Wizard reminds me of Marek in Mythica 4, so that was an easy choice.
I had not though about the enemy head pack before as it's not listed in the wave contents at sourcehorsemen, but an orc head and an orc skull are useful.

Guys I have a question, do Storm Collectibles' skeletons have drop down legs? I could've sworn I've seen a review where one did but I can't find it.

>>11753522
>Grabs Storm Bone Boi
The hip is a ball joint, so it can be pulled downwards, but it's not a drop-down as in, say, the Mafex sense.

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>>11753522
Mine are put away, but here is a pic from the Fwoosh review that shows what the other anon is describing.
https://thefwoosh.com/2020/08/storm-collectibles-golden-axe-skeleton-review/

>>11753522
Kind of. It's got a ball joint on both sides of the connection. The upper end rotates freely in a socket in the pelvis; and the lower end is a ball joint of pegs that rotates on the femur. So, yeah, that one segment is articulated on both ends.

>>11753487
>wasn't even asked to post a photo, btw
You insinuated that I don't collect Mythic Legions. I do, and several other fantasy toylines. And I can prove it, unlike your poverty stricken ass that can't post pics of any fantasy toys you bought in the last year.
Can't post toys.
Can only shitpost.
You needed to shitpost all Easter Sunday in a thread for toys you no longer collect because you have no family that are willing to tolerate you.
That's what your life amounts to.

>was caught lying
No lie. I got what phrase you beat into the ground wrong. Sorry for not remembering the exact phrase you spammed 55 times like it was a pic from your Joytoy folder.
Just like you've sperged about "goalposts" 40 times in this thread, like a toddler that has just discovered a new word.
FORTY.
That's as many as four tens.

The rest of your post is just schizophrenic ranting. Explaining anything to you is a waste of time. You've either misunderstood, misconstrued, or ignored everything people have told you, and continued to make insane claims like "they made an important figure the last unlock." Yeah, it was so important that it wasn't even added to the Kickstarter until day 29.
Which you would have known if you paid even the slightest bit of attention instead of coming to the thread with the sole intention of trolling. You think you are making 4H look bad, but the only thing you are proving is that you are a shitposter with poor English comprehension.

>>11753537
>>11753538
>>11753569
Ohhhh, I see, thanks

Sorry, I have another question about the Storm skellies, what do you guys think of the quality? I know the Dead Frame ones are a QC nightmare, but about the normal Golden Axe skeletons, do they hold up?
I recall watching a review where the leg snapped right out of the box, it was the standard version, would that happen to the other colors like the translucent or pink ones? Or was it just bad luck for the buyer?

>>11753635
I think they are very cool and work well. I haven't had any breakages on them.
Like most skeleton figures, they are not very sturdy, but they hold their own light weight with no problems. Joints are just strong enough and bones are rigid enough. The mentioned hip socket may loosen a bit with time on some, but it's not terrible.
Knees and elbows are single jointed, with somewhere over 90º range. Head has the poorest range in the figure, with no ability to look up. Good poseability overall.
Leg bones are aligned straight without the natural 5º-ish angle than human legs have, but they are quite anatomically correct otherwise.

>>11753662
Thank you kindly anon, I guess I will get one.

>>11753635
This anon >>11753662 sums it up pretty well. As long as you aren't treating them like a marvel legend you shouldn't have too many issues.

>>11753712
Mine will survive just fine I hope

Jeebus, and you claim me no no English.
You pretend that you're not stalking me, yet somehow know about what I'm doing in the WH40k (holding an extreme grudge for that too) and GI Joe threads. I said that you sound like the contrarian shitposter from the GI Joe thread, who also comes from the WH40k thread, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone post those figures in their collection aside from myself. ... -
OH WAIT, you actually are more clever than your lying ass has shown yourself to be, because you saw what i was trying to get at, so you preemptively posted a photo instead of waiting for me to ask you to post your WH40k/GI Joe with a Mythic Legion figure in front of an electrical socket, so you can say you already posted proof.
Way to act guilty of samefagging, retard. Your cropped photo makes it really really obvious too.

>You've either misunderstood, misconstrued or ignored everything
LOL
There's no misunderstanding the actions of a company removing the goalposts if sales are lower than expected
You're ignoring that a supposed popular/special figure that's to be unlocked at $1.5m wouldn't drive sales OVER that number, like most Kickstarters usually aim to get on the last days, and misconstruing backtraq's estimation as 4H's own goals.

Also, i really love how you complete ignore the fact that you said that the SDCC Paladin isn't leftover overstock, despite them claiming it's was "special, limited edition item." So either 4H are scumming liars who constantly lie and push FOMO to raise sales OR sales were that poor, thus needing to offload their overstock to BBTS.
I mean, you might as well admit that they are scummy, because they already pretend shit sells out for their sales too.

But you don't want to admit to the lesser lie, because you're a 4H shill who would lose his job for saying anything negative about 4H.

Holy schizo

>>11753844
>somehow know about what I'm doing in the WH40k
WH40K thread? Wouldn't have a clue,. I'm talking about the rest of the board, because you spam your Joytoy pics EVERYWHERE. Just in the last year, you've spammed them in at least 3 meta threads, the thread laughing at McFarlanes's $60 Elite Edition figures,, the Jada thread, and TMNT general until someone told you to fuck off with your off-topic grudge. You've even tried it in this thread. And those are just the threads that I've been in, not counting my quick peek into GI Joe yesterday to see if you were shitposting in there, but judging from one anon proclaiming "JoyToy out of nowhere" it is a frequent thing in that thread.
The worst was when you did it in the thread where we were celebrating the site coming back online after the hack. That's how fucked in the head you are. Everyone is having a good time, and you need to shit in the punchbowl. Fucking subhuman.
You rampantly shitpost and then get mad when people notice it's the same retard spamming the same pics in multiple threads. Nobody even needs to go to the Warhammer thread to know about your weird Joytoy obsession because you spam it EVERYWHERE.

>>11754708
>>11754708
>>11754708
New thread

>>11754711
This one is just at page 5, what an unnecessary new thread

>>11754029
>I stalk you in all other threads except for the ones you accuse me of!
LOL. You're being such a contarian you don't realize how retarded your logic is. Now you have to post a Jada, McFarlane and TMNT toys together in front of an electrical socket to prove you're actually a fan of those lines and weren't just there to stalk me. Prove you're not just a shitposter.

But i know you won't, because you're a retarded fanboy with an axe to grind
>Fucking subhuman.
wah waah wah, because I dare bring up the fact that 4H is acting desperate for cash and you'll lose your job if you even acknowlege it, hence you derailing this thread for over a week.

If this thread didn't have shills like you, it'd be okay for someone to notice that any other company removing their goalposts to get a week's worth of sales is a sign of poor sales. There wouldn't be a week long attempt to derail the thrad to distract that fact, but a general concensus in a single day that 4H might be having money problems.
The general concensus would be that 4H are scum bags for making a limited edition SDCC Paladin into something you can just order a year later at another toy store.
Or that sales were so bad for a limited edition figure that they had to offload it to BBTS because it was taking up so much space in their warehouse.

But no, you can't make normal conversation, stating obvious things in this thread, because 4H employees consider that to be trolling and instead you want to derail the thread with your made up bullshit about how I'm a satanic hitler for a week.

>bought a Storm Collectibles Golden Axe pink skeleton for 33 bucks
No weapons though, but eh I wouldn't really use the shield anyways, and the skellie came with all hands yay. Dunno if I lucked out or just bought it for a fair price.

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If you ordered your Keepgoing Skeleton on 5K, the second payment amount is due until the 19th.

>>11755433
>faggot that won't post his toys demands other anons post their toys
Do you have any self awareness?

>>11757887
>implying i didn't already post my Jada, McFarlane, 4H, TMNT, figures long ago
Whereas I'm still waiting for you to post yours, to prove you're not a No-Toys who only goes into other threads to stalk me.

Nevermind trying to NO U me is just to derailed this thread with your offtopic bitching because you don't want to acknowledge that either 4H are scumbags for lying about the SDCC figure being a limited edition or that they're desperate for money because it sold so poorly, hence going to be sold at BBTS and needed to remove the goalposts from their Kickstarter because sales were lower than expected.

Can you actually being on topic to discuss why 4H is doing meaningly underhanded shit or will you get fired for the merest negative thought about their actions?