Some kind of announcement happening todayPrevious >>11786552>Upcoming Transformershttps://pastebin.com/pYznUV3y>Leaks and rumorshttps://pastebin.com/Q9Yb5FaX>Online Stores for TFshttps://pastebin.com/3raSp3ZY>Where to watch TF shows:https://pastebin.com/sR4Y7xWi>Transformers General Archives:https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/subject/%2Ftfg%2F%20-%20Transformers%20General/New thread at page 9 or 10 or at image limit
Here’s my list of what I think is going to be revealed>”Sleep Mode” Optimus>Commander class Rodimus >rest of MTMTE SS86 collection like Prowl, Allicon, and Quintesson>limited rerelease of The Movie in theatres
>>11789384>>11789502>Galvatron, a shell of his former self, has an arm cannon from the husk of his literal former self which serves as an inverse of the metamorphosis allegory.People will look you in the eye and say that Super Link is the worst transformers show when Cyberverse and Earthspark exist.Master Megatron (as they where intended to be the same character originally) was most likely going to complete this arc by fully merging with Unicron leaving behind the black hole.
>>11789955>limited rerelease of The Movie in theatresIn this economy?
>>11789975NTA and I agree that it seems unfeasible, but getting to see The Movie on the big screen would get me to drag my ass out to a theater more than the vast majority of new releases. I was born in the 90s though, so some of that is wanting a theatrical experience with that movie that I never got.
>>11789981I saw it in theaters for the 35th Anniversary. Theater didn't darken the lights enough and had a shit sound system so as an experience it was underwhelming. Wife hadn't seen it and she really liked it.
>>11789975Why not? The UK had one just 2 years ago so if they did another I would be down to go see it.
>>11789955Sentinel Prime apparently
>>11789995>Tarn retoolKinda disappointing, it's a good mould but would have liked something new.Mirage looks like he's gonna be nice though.
>>11789995Is that the tarn mold?
>>11789999I dunno, seems fairly accurate
>>11790002Man, Sentinel always being some kind of asshole has really stuck since TFA huh?
>>11790004Nothing wrong with thatThough I'd prefer he's a good asshole instead of a traitor
>>11789961I just want a pack of reissue Diaclone drivers. Is that too much to hope for?
>>11789970Cyberverse was unironically great. The Quintesson simulation arc was brilliant.The only thing holding it back was its ADHD format.
>>11790035Cyberverse has too many characters none of whom are remotely distinct or interesting and are often more one note than even many of the G1 cast. Season 3 had some good ideas but it's hard to sit through because the story is portrayed in the most boring way imaginable
>>11789961I want standard 86 starscream news.
>>11789970It's unironically is worse than cyberverse>looks awful even for it's time>ratchet is missing, jetfire, starscream, ironhide, have their arcs undone>huge amount of padding Also you can thank they toy designers for the tank, the show didnt capitalize on it
This is a long shot. Does anybody know in which of Thew's Transformers review he says something is "a bit Naked Lunch, isn't it?"? I recently watched that movie and want to finally get the reference. I think it was one of the older reviews.
Is it worth it to glue on Liege Maximo’s shoulder pads? He’s really sick but these shoulder pads keep popping off, it’s the only really annoying thing about this dude
>>11789995Which Sentinel though?
>>117900793 posts down anon
>>11790079I assume at least based on >>11790002
>>11790075Knock-Off Beatdown 2
>>11790004That page predates Animated
>>11790090Not only that, the story itself predates IDW. It was originally written for Dreamwave.
>>11789999>>11790001I have Tarn and both Bludgeons and I'll gladly get SenTarnal Prime
>>11790089why do you lie
>>11790080I just don't see enough similarity with Tarn for them to get away with using Tarn's mold for him.
>>11790075have you looked through any review of a figure with an insect altmode?
still praying for Deluxe G1 Optimus in this ML Sentinel deco>>11790098it's probably a case of "this guy won't sell enough to warrant a new mold and this is better than nothing"
>>11790102I got that ML Prime, it’s genuinely a great colourI think it’s funny that the Overgear Prime looks like this colour scheme and would do look better with the yellow head too
>>11789981>>11789984I'm an old fart that saw it in first release. Remember being bummed because everyone got killed
>>11790077I've been considering it. As a half measure, you could coat the inside surfaces of the pad, let it dry, and then rely on the extra friction to keep them in place.
>>11790097Lack of truth.
>>11790004IDW2019 is the closest thing to a modern exception, he's kind of a dick but he actually is well meaning.
>>11790126That’s the best personality for Sentinel, in my opinion. Well meaning, but just missing the overall compassion that Optimus has
>>11790184Well that's... a thing
>>11790184>>11790186Reminds me of this one GI Joe playset.
>>11790185Also I see you new Vector Prime sword
>IDWslopMoney saved
>>11790184Is it a pumpkin for halloween?
>>11790184>forklift certified prime
>>11790180>>11790184>>11790185>>11790190>+$25 for a fucking empty disc
>>11790180>>11790184I’ll take it over fucking Star Convoy that’s for sure.Still would like to see a Zeta (yes I know) still.
>>11790180>>11790184>>11790185>>11790190hahahahaha what the fuck is this shit?
>>11790185WHY ARE THE NAMES WRITTEN IN ENGLISH?
>>11790185>now with Evo-Fusion action
>>11790184It’s a bullshit alt mode but I kinda like it
>>11790185>>11790227should we start taking bets on tolerance issues? will the holes be too loose or too tight? will the artifacts' 5mm pegs snap-off?
>>11790184Woah, we finally got Legacy Eveelotuion United Go-Bots Universe Tank . . . Too bad he's the wrong colors.
>>11790180>>11790184>>11790185>>11790190$67.99 btw
>>11790185This looks fucking stupid
>>11790180>>11790184Don't care about IDW but I did love the Tarn mold and this is a cool redeco especially the alt mode is something new>>11790194So this confirms Thirteen Vector Prime is going to be a Toy Deco Vector Prime? Nice, glad I picked up the original Legacy version for a show accurate one so I can have both>>11790238Poorfags need not be in this hobby
>>11790180>>11790184>>11790185>>11790190orange bot bad
>>11790185I was literally thinking last night it was going to just be some round table esque thing they could stand around.
>>11790180>>11790184>>11790185So whats his deal anyway? Secret 14th Prime? Or is it like One where he's the betrayer and kills them all and takes their artifacts or something
>>11790240>Poorfags need not be in this hobbySorry I don't want to pay $25 for a plastic circle.
>>11790244I assume it’s like one, without the betrayalEither that or he’s the chosen protector of the Primes
>>11790244Boxart shows prima and micronus dead in the background so I guess they’re going with asshole betrayer this time.
>>11790244hes just a non-god Prime like Nova, Nominus etc
>>11790249>micronus Nvm I just looked at it again and it’s alchemist, the green arms mixed me up, my bad
>>11789981Same, I was a kid in the 90s and only ever saw via vhs rentals, but I’d love to see it on a big screen with a good sound system once. I don’t think it’s infeasible: the few local cineplexes remaining have all done some limited re-release screenings since 2017, and it’s accelerated since Covid and new movies being increasingly unwatchable. Ironically, the theaters were packed for the re-releases but not for the new films.
>>11790251Weird considering Alchemist is usually the one that survives into the modern day.
>>11790184I shouldn't like this as much as I do.
>>11790065>looks awful even for it's timeMost anime, bad or good, looks awful.>ratchet is missingDoesn't need to be there. Transformers always had revolving casts>jetfire, starscream, ironhide, have their arcs undoneJetfire's development carries on and Starscream's regression into a slave was alright initially especially with how Megatron messes with his head. The problem is that only the first half was actually written and they winged it to hell and back.SL is definitely the weakest of the 3 but even then I'd still rather watch it than anything after Prime where they hired people who can't make anything interesting in the slightest.
>>11790184
>>11790255Even getting to see it on VHS was a magical experience that endeared me to TF forever, but it would be nice to hear The Touch blasting on theater speakers just once. And that's actually a good point, a lot of theaters today do make way more from screening niche nerd shit than mainstream releases.
>>11790259>Most anime, bad or good, looks awful.
>>11790184Its a....uhhh......snail?
>>11790267forklift or zamboni
>>11790184Choro Q Sentinel Prime
>>11790267
>>11790184that's as half-assed a retool as legacy quake, maybe even worse
lol
>>11790272I mean I guess that’s what they were going for, they just didn’t succeed at that at all.
>>11790275that thing's covering up a huge fuckass gap, isn't it. also how the fuck is THAT nearly 70 DOLLARS?
>>11790276Maybe not remold him from Tarn? It just doesn't work. Bludgeon worked because they had a Bludgeon design that was specifically: Tarn remold.
>>11790262>Most anime, bad or good, looks awful.This is objectively true, especially during the growing pains of the early 2000s. You just weren't exposed to the mass majority of it at the time. Even if the CGI is ugly as sin it's still superior to shit like 2016 Berserk and a lot of the other subsequent 3D shows since you can just excuse the stiff animations with "they're robots"
>>11790283holy shit I've never seen a take so rancid
>>11790275ready to drive the everglades
>>11790284You aren't seriously suggesting that Berserk's CGI is better than Transformers Energon?
>>11790180>>11790184HOLY SHIT IT'S NOT JUNKION TITAN thanks godfor a second from thumbnails i thought this ugly stupid lanky long shit is that "Junkion Titan" that was rumored.because of rusty-yellow colors and stupid mode (i thought it's a garbage truck)and i thought my day is ruined because Junkion Titan is the main thing i'm waiting for from transformers (i even sniped 3 more junkions on discount while waiting because im going to display them all together)thanks god..That thing is stupid btw. who would want this. It literally looks like cleaning truck/garbage truck.I can see them riding at 5:00AM on Cybertron cleaning streets
>>11790287>I can see them riding at 5:00AM on Cybertron cleaning streetskek
>>11790286no, the "this is objectively true" part
>>11790180>Complete tarn retool>STILL has the fucked up retard shouldersThese fucking designers man
new selects three packlooks like mirage is retooled slightly so his shoulder cannon actually works as a shoulder cannon?
>>11790180I like his bot design >>11790184But this looks like a random star wars cgi addition Lucas added among a bunch of other random changes
>>11790295AND HIS NAME IS
>>11790259Super link/energon Starscream really just isn't micron legend/Armada Starscream.Even if it's the same spark he's been so totally reset by the loss of his memories he ends up a whole new person.Moving from there to Cybertron where he should be the same character is even crazier, since somehow he got un-lobotimized by the energon sun and regained enough agency that he became possibly the most successful Starscream possibly ever.
>>11790180I mean the retooling on the bot mode looks pretty nice actually>>11790184But I was honestly hoping for the train from Titans ReturnIt’s overpriced as fuck too though, like what the actual fuck?
>>11790295Cant tell if whoever made this awful edit shit the colors or they're genuinely that bad.I find it funny they just gave Mirage a 3rd party adapter
>>11790190I can't be the only one who immediately thought of the old 'Promotions' meme when I saw this box art.
>>11790295Will probably get this for an Ironhide and Bluestreak that won't somehow break in the future.
>>11790302Well now you aren't.
>>11790295Damn, I don't wanna rebuy Ironhide even for painted windows, but I do kinda want the other two.
>>11790295BAH GAWD>>11790293By Primus, I wish I could go back to that time.Tried to reply to all the Sentinel humor but somehow that makes my post spam. Really can't decide if I want to keep ML Sentinel Prime once I get this. Definitely a less humorous one, that's for sure.
>>11790293FLCL isn't most anime, it's arguably the furthest from your typical anime to begin with. Most of what's popular was the best stuff. There's a whole bunch of bargain bin shit that you didn't see from studios you never heard of
>>11790314>>11790313>>11790295oh it's that autobot guy
>>11790306Those baby blue windows are ugly as all hell and the sooner we're done with them, the better
The Movie's coming back into theaters September 17th>>11790313Maybe now they’ll make a Skid-Z out of this Mirage mold
>>11790314The Ironhide we should've gotten from the start instead of making 30% of him clear plastic and missing the stripe
>>11790320enjoy your broken transparent plastic
>>11790313>>11790314Subtle.
>>11790315Ah the "this anime actually isn't actually anime because I like it" stance. Rare these days.
>>11790287>It literally looks like cleaning truck/garbage truck.>I can see them riding at 5:00AM on Cybertron cleaning streetsLMAOO>>11789416He pretty much kept Sandstorm & Tidal/Shockwave personalities when they were reformatted. my take (cold take) is that it serves Galvatron, these 2 are unhinged but loyal to him (wherever it was in the previous anime or this one), no wonder he wouldn't have the old Starscream who challenged him at every opportunity; better have a servant for the narcissistic leader he isJust Ironhide/Demolishor is annoying af when he's reformatted into Irontread>>11790320Agreed
>>11790324>>11790320>>11790314>>11790313I want a combination of the two. The way they did clear plastic with metallic underlays for Kingdom Sideswipe and Earthrise Sunstreaker/Spinout was my favorite and they never really did it again
>>11790314mirage's vehicle is a bit of a let down
>>11790185This thing sucks
>>11790339I wonder what its a conduit for. Like, in universe.
>>11790314A more muted blue would've been swell
>>11790313>>11790314I get that people can take or leave the windows, but I still think gray face > silver face every time.>>11790323Shit, guess I am paying to see something in theaters this year.
>>11790343To open the well of allsparks supposedly.
>>11789970>>11790065It's really frustrating how many cool ideas the UT had that were completely dropped because Takara failed at communicating these ideas to the studios they contracted.It's disappointing that this lead to such a distrust over letting Japanese studios handle the property it's still felt 20 years on, long after basically everyone working at Hasbro at the time has now left. I hate how obtuse people are bout GF/Cybertron's relation to Armada/Energon because the anime aren't related, when it's so, so clear that the cast is meant to have a bunch of returning Armada/Energon characters that were still relatively new characters/ designs at the time. "Excellion" is 100% designed to be the third series' Hot Shot.
>>11790313I'll get this. I'm still rocking Earthrise Ironhide and I never got the other two so this works for me.
>>11790343sewer lid
>>11790339how the hell are they gonna justify charging $25 for a crummy plastic disk?
>>11790314goddamn mirage looks rough next to the other altmodes
>>11790379They revealed the price?
>>11790383Aww dude don't be like thatMan got new tire and front wing just for the occasion
>>11790384The Sentinel Prime + Conduit pack is $67.99
>>11790388Sheesh.
>>11790386he's a good toy (though my copy has shit tolerances) but he is wildly inaccurate compared to the others
>>11790314I really wish they would make the windows black and not this extremely ugly blue
>>11790185>>11790339I like how this wasn't designed with any real effort or intent. Like they just made a big dish and went "shit... how do we put things on it?" and slapped a bunch of random fucking port holes and connections fucking up the sculpt and names underneath. No special connections, not even an aesthetically pleasing arrangement, just total incompetence.
>>11790379They should be charging that much for Pokemon creatures instead.
>>11790384You know what they say, reveal the shield, reveal the price.
>>11790406They should be charging that much for a bucket of water instead
>>11790409Too crummy.
>>11790361It's more than just the studios. Archer has basically said they had no control over the shows because in Japan overall control of the show was in the hands of the director(s) and there was no mechanism for compelling them to follow HasTak's dictates.
>>11790261>magical experienceThe only letdown was going back to the tv show and being underwhelmed by the goofy plots and dialogue, and the poor animation compared to the film, which is peak 80s anime.>niche nerd shitI thought my brother and I would be some of the only people in that screen for wrath of khan, but it was packed, sold out. A couple of our friends were seeing The Last Jedi at the same place, same time, and they told us they had the whole place to themselves.
>>11790418Good honestly, Archer writing wouldve been worse
>>11790418It's crazy to me that S3 was so much worse,nyou think they would try harder after the movie
>>11790313>>11790314Mirage got some extensive retooling. He even has pinned wheels now.
>>11790065>>11790259Energon Starscream was a huge misopportunity. The circumstances of his return is eerily similar to that of Transmetal II Dinobot as well as how Megatron in the end still has a soft spot for the guy that he got him 'back' in his ranks once more. If only Japan received S3 of Beast Wars, the existence of Transmetal II Dinobot could've been fresh on their mind and we'd get Energon Starscream with a character arc based on the former. An amnesiac warrior who is ever loyal to Megatron's command thanks to his brainwashing but slowly parts of his old memories begins to resurface until the latter half where he begins to act indecisive, torn between following Megatron who by that point is possessed by Unicron and following the path he set himself back in Armada. In thr end, Starscream would make one final sacrifice again and being able to temporarily free Megatron/Galvatron from Unicron's control so that the latter can make his final move and plunge himself into the Energon Sun, dying not as a puppet of Unicron but as Megatron.
>>11790442>If only Japan received S3 of Beast WarsThey... did?Are you thinking of Japan not getting S3 of Prime? Or Japan not getting Beast Machines until much later on?
>>11790444Well nvm, apparently Japan got BW S1 and then that led to BWII and Neo and only then did they get S2 and S3 of BW under the Metals banner. I thought they only got S1 and S2. My point still stands however.
>>11790180>>11790185>>11790275>giant hole in the middle of the disk >can't have it on him and use the star convoy piece to fill in the gaping ugly holegenuinely what were they thinking
>>11790448>and then that led to BWII and Neo and only then did they get S2 and S3 of BWYeah, because S3 literally wasn't finished yet. II and Neo were filler series.
>>11790452Well they could've gotten S2 while waiting for S3.
>>11790454S2 finished airing in English RIGHT when BWII starting airing.
>>11790455Then they could've aired S2 after BWII finished.
>>11790325>plastic can ONLY be clear or solid baby blue>nothing else!!
>>11790325Not my fault you're a fat retard who has worse precision than literal 5 year olds.
>>11790442That would have been good. They could even have used his immersion in super energon as the catalyst for his memories to return.Much as I like Super Link, Nightscream was the single biggest miss in the whole show. Bad enough that they aborted his rather interesting introduction to the show with the brainwashing but then later, with the aforementioned super energon bath, they took away everything that was visually cool about his design.
>>11790457why?by that point they would have known that A), it ends on a massive cliffhanger, and B) everyone's still in metal-ly beast bodies. might as well package the two last seasons together for cohesiveness's sake.not to mention the BWII leads directly into BWN's plot, so keeping those two shows together is a good idea as well.
>>11790329Thats not what I meant, did you even read what I said? FLCL was a standout anime even for it's time and it still is now. Do you actually know what you're talking about?
>>11790180I have come here with the sole purpose of reminding you that Jizaitoys figured out how to do a freakishly accurate G1 Sentinel Prime a literal decade ago: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/440509876.htmlAnd then to taunt you with the knowledge that none of us will ever own one, because no one has yet discovered his ~True-name~, and thereby magically compelled him to share this or any of his other files, Rumpelstiltskin-style.
>>11790451Star's Zodiac does go in the middle.
>>11790463Wouldn't have mattered either way. BWNeo does not transition into Metals that great if at all anyways.
>>11790465It's a little known fact, but despite not being closely genetically related, Japanese Shape-wizards actually share a number of behavioral traits with European Fey, on account of both occupying similar ecological niches.I'm not sure if they also do the 'excepting your first-born child as valid payment in deals made with them' thing, though.
>>11790471https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/440671604.html
>>11790184It's funny how everyone kept reposting the design from the mobile game that we all forgot to check what Sentinel's alt mode actually looked like in the comic proper.This is actually not a bad likeness, though a bit squished.
>>11790474>>11790272
>>11790473Also here's his Zeta Prime to aadd insult to injury:https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/465463487.html
>>11790479https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/489576769.html
>>11790474Now if someone *cough*DNA*cough* would make some apex armor for him...
>>11790471>>11790473Fuuuuck that's so good. 3Ps could make so much money doing chug scales that hasbro won't or can't do right
>>11790470>BWNeo does not transition into Metals that great if at all anyways.It doesn't, at all, because it's not supposed to. BW and BWII/N take place in completely different time periods. But it's better to have one break (BW - BWII/N - BW) than three (BW - BWII - BW - BWN - BW).
>>11790487Nah it would've been more funnier if they did three breaks like that.
>>11790483
>>11790486I'd actually buy 3rd party if they started doing stuff closer in size, complexity, and price to CHUG. a lot of them look cool but I don't want massive bots that are a drawn-out pain to transform
>>11790185>>11790240I'm all for this deco of Vector Prime - so long as he's actually a new mold this time. I own the original mold in his black and brown Universe colors, plus the Legacy one (with upgrade kit) in his show colors (roughly. He was white, not grey), so it would be neat to have his last deco also on its own mold.
>>11790244You've got some dead Primes in the background, plus him doing the stereotypical "MWAHAHA!" super villain pose, so I'm guessing the latter.
>>11790510So just like in One.
>>11790507>see a cool looking 3P>watch video of somebody transforming it>no longer interestedSo many cases like this
>>11788911Words cannot describe how much I don't like how that looks. What were they thinking?
>>11790507I always assumed they stuck to MP and legends scale to avoid stepping on hasbros chug toes so they don’t get hit with like a lawsuit.
>>11790522Hasbro wont do shit
>>11790244A Go-Bot that crossed dimensions to get vengeance on the Transformers
>>11789947>Peppa Pig gets eaten by Tarantulasinteresting
>>11790004IDW quite literally turned him into a "Trump bad" meme and shit up his characterIt only got recovered later when they did so badly they basically got slapped and told to do normal shit
>>11790180>>11790184>>11790185>>11790190Thats..an alt mode for sureI kinda wish he was more orange. This cheddar color is awful and I KNOW it'll fucking yellowEasy passPlease 3PI'm fucking beggingRemake SOMETHING like the PotP Throne set
>>11790528they really didn't
>>11790388Guess Hasbro really is making their exclusives way more expensive. Skybound Optimus, Nemesis Prime, this. Guess they want me to buy less.
>>11790466I know I mean while he has it on his arm>>11790180, but he can't because the hole is likely already filled like in >>11790275
>>11790543Hasbro has nothing to do with the price of Nemesis Star Convoy.
Updated huffer whenI have kingdom pipes but I want a slightly more robust little guy in line with current things like gears.Is retro huffer on the cards?
>>11790527>Decisive Predacon strategic victory
>>11790528it's funny to me that you saw a generically evil leader character (who was previously shown to be evil a full decade before trump took office) and just assumed that it's supposed to be a trump reference by those damn liberals
>>11790506Glup Shinto’s are actually a staple of who jizai chooses to design. Of just G1 ones there’s:G1 cartoon:-Kranix: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/490995782.html-Lithone child: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/511256838.html#more-The Autoscout: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/504944646.html-Gyronian Sentry: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/451327896.html-Dropkick transport drone: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/503040628.html-Cargo Warrior drone: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/454469702.html-Defcon: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/499028885.html(Arguably not Glup Shitto’s. But the Female Autobots did only appear in a single episode of the original show.)-Greenlight: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/473717110.html-Firestar: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/438263466.html-Moonracer: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/197954422.html
>>11790553Funnily enough, they did make a G1 toy head for Road Ranger, so it’s entirely possible we’ll get a Retro Huffer at some point
>>11790551I'm talking about Armada Nemesis, or did you completely forget the shitstorm when they revealed it?
>>11790544The shield and Conduit are two separate pieces.
>>11790222that is kinda dumb>>11790286those are both anime though
>>11790560Marvel comics:-Scrounge: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/364646997.html-The Last Autobot: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/459792012.html-Tusks (Piano bot): https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/481037610.html3H Universe comics:-Granny Tank: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/474705597.html#moreG1 Toys:-Fast track: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/454140681.html-Powerdrive: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/442693630.htmlBM not G1, but his Wheel-boobs and butt Strika is both amazing and Hilarious:https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/441336125.html
>>11790307it was an amazing time.. I miss it.>>11790339>hole right through some of the names>only twelve slots for the Thirteenokay>>11790379what the ass, 25 dollars>>11790406I'd buy those
>>11790567No, the shield is still needed to complete it, it can be removed from the slab for Sentinel, but you still need to attach it to complete the whole thing since the Zodiac slots into it.
>>11790544>>11790567
>>11790004He used to have more nuance. Origins Sentinel was a militaristic hardass but still had good intentions at heart.He wanted peace and order even if it meant defending a corrupt government that he himself didn't like.Now he's just a one note villain because Optimus is the only one allowed to be a good Prime.
>>11790576He was actually a good guy in IDW2, Optimus looked like a complete moron by comparison, even if the comic wanted you to think Optimus was right.
>>11790507>>117905131000%
>>11790521>What were they thinking?Three many cooks spoil the zoidzoids and diaclone, and transformers and diaclone, and zoids and transformers, all feel like fantastic crossovers. but the THREE? that's like trying to wear a jacket and a half.
>>11790570The circle in the middle is meant for the Zodiac, since the Thirteenth is supposed to be mysterious
>>11790557he's been playing that character on TV for a lot longer. remember? "you're fired" was the catchphrase.what's weird to me is people think he's real. I thought Colbert was real for a little while, but I was a teenager.
>>11790566Yes, I did.
>>11790569this has CGI Palz energy>>11790585oh fair enough, I kinda dig that. My favorite is when there's six of something with a hidden seventh, that fits in the center of a hexagon thing
>>11790589Like Takanuva?
>>11790582I remember seeing that 3p Metroplex with that weird Russian name. It looked so cool... until I learned the arms could sheer off at the shoulder since they used a tiny connection. Still sad about, since it looks reallly good.
>>11790314Hasbro please god just give me metallic fucking windows.
>>11790578>>11790576He wasn't even really actually bad in idw1 until they retconned him back to life and made him a vague Trump allegory with species supremacist ideas like they gave Nova, who was also vaguely framed as a heroic figure until he got Nemesis Primed and went psycho.
>>11790314more gluppo shittierinos
>>11790625I kinda like the idea that Nova was kinda like the stereotypical fantasy hero character until he gets corrupted into a demon lord type figure as his version of Nemesis.Almost makes me think every prime should have their own Nemesis prime variant, though I DESPISE when the main Optimus of a story gets turned into him.
>>11790627Even if your memeing that's not what that means.
>>11790631okay boomer
>>11790630would nemesis megatronus be a good guy?
>>11790636Heh
>>11790185>This is why Megatronus snapped.Also, Megatronus is and always has been a stupid name. He’s the herald of Entropy and/or prime of destruction; Terminus was right there, and at that point in time, completely unused.
>>11790630>DESPISE when the main Optimus of a story gets turned into himThis has literally only happened in The Last Knight>>11790633Takara occasionally pairs Black Convoy releases with Shadow Megatrons. They're still bad guys.
>>11790110I was a 6 year old kid and loved the whole thing watching it in theaters in August 1986. Spike cursing was awesome. Finally the stakes were big.
>>11790642>Let's call him... Megatron us. Totally not a bad guy btw.Also retroactively makes Megatron being named after him stupid
>>11790651No more stupid than Megatron (BW) being named after Megatron
>>11790651>>11790654I always thought Megatronus was (partially) created to be the Megatron BW Megatron mentions in the Covenant of Primus
>>11790313>>11790314mirage looks cool
>>11790656That was the idea, yes.
>>11790654I call him barneytron
>>11790313Looks pretty good, but with current time prices, I'm not keen on spending too much when I only want two of them.
>>11790636PREVIOUSLY, on X-men:
>>11790650as a 1 year old at the time, who grew up on beast wars, I was still aware enough of the infamous 'oh shit' that, when it was homaged in the first baymovie, I cracked up. then quickly explained to my dad 'in the old animated transformers movie from the 80s, that was the one swear they snuck in for that PG rating'
>>11790681actually, 11 month old.. god damn, you were watching transformers, I was still on the titty. How's your back doing? Mine's shit.
>>11790642>Megatronus is and always has been a stupid nameAlso it ruins the cool bootstrap paradox from beast wars.
>>11790656>the Megatron BW Megatron mentions in the Covenant of PrimusThat was literally supposed to be himself though. G1 Megatron names himself after the guy in the covenant then BW Megatron names himself after G1 Megatron and ends up BEING the guy from the covenant.
>>11790691Also, for the record, Beast Wars is its own continuity, so Megatronus/The Fallen was never a thing in it. Probably.
>>11790692>The guy that didn't exist wasn't a thing in the thing that existed before he existed.No shit.
>>11790184fuckin power ranger zord foot>>11790275>>goatse_prime.jpg
>>11790680heard it in my head kek
>>11790686>>11790691Another reason the virgin 13 brand synergy primes are inferior to the chad slow drip schizolore Thirteen.
>>11790698
>>11790325I have never broken any modern figures that had clear plastic, only retards think clear plastic is a ticking time bomb liable to break at any moment. I knocked out the pins on ER Prowl back in the day to take him apart and the clear plastic in the knees didn't stress at all. It's only when it's poorly designed like on Jazz or Tracks that it's a liability. Or like Energon Demolishor's elbows.
>>11790709>This was some swell shindig. Thank you very muuuch.
>>11790686>>11790691The Covenant contents aren't supposed to be a paradox. They're already written by the time the Ark and Nemesis crash on Earth, long before any of the philosophized events happen during the Beast Wars. The two ships are where Primal and Megs find them to read them.
>>11790723>They're already written by the time the Ark and Nemesis crash on Earth, long before any of the philosophized events happen during the Beast Wars.That's how a prophecy works you retard, you predict what will come to be
>>11790723that whole season is such a blur, I could not keep track of when Megatron found this book or that driver or whatever>>11790745I think what anon means is, Beast Megatron did not inspire the character in the prophecy -by being there back in time when it was written- because it wasn't, yet. I didn't pick up on that at all. I thought he WAS writing it, and thus would the future cybertrons find it, millions of years later, and go 'whoa, prophecy'
>>11790723>They're already written by the time the Ark and Nemesis crash on EarthYeah by some writer who foresaw future events. Events like a dragon named megatron threatening all of space-time. A dragon who got his name from a guy who got his name from the dragon. Which comes back to the paradox of where did the name originally come from.
>>11790745I didn't say they weren't a prophecy, genius. I said they weren't a paradox. Those are two different things.Though, rereading my post, I accidentally corrected prophesied to philosophized.>>11790748Megatron finding the driver is never depicted, he just suddenly has it. Season 3 is a bit unpolished in a lot of areas, some of which was caused by Hasbro fucking them around.
So we're getting the gold edition Vector Prime to cap off the original 13?
Check out the fiction from the Beast Wars toyline universe! There's some differences to the show.
>>11790766The Covenant prophecies as a whole aren't the paradox. The existence of the NAME Megatron itself is the paradox.
>>11790784It doesn't really matter, that bit about the name is part of season 3's unpolishedness anyways. Megatron says in season 2 he's named after G1 Megatron, but in S3 says he got the name directly from the Covenant.
>>11790794Man, what hack writer made that blunder?
>>11790770Gotta love how, even after they redirected the toyline fiction to be more like the show, they still keep Tarantulas as a stupid ninja instead of saying the quantum surge made him smart, or something.
>>11790796That episode in particular has a lot of weird things, like Depth Charge flying in robot mode, Cheetor flying at all, Cheetor in the wrong body, Rampage having apparently attacked ANOTHER location full of Depth Charge's friends in the past...
>>11790801>like Depth Charge flying in robot modeand beast mode*
>>11790770Do we know who wrote the Tech Specs for Beats Wars? I love all the little references they put in, Like TM2 Cybershark hunting the BWII Seacons
>>11790809That's not necessarily the BWII Seacons, it's just a plays on a shark hunting pirates (but robots and space because Transformers)
>>11790801> Rampage having apparently attacked ANOTHER location full of Depth Charge's friends in the past...I thought the idea was that DC was chasing him down, probably not too out of the ordinary that he’d recognize some of Rampage’s other victims.Both places were references to a specific Botcon vendor too, which is kinda funny. Like a few years later it could’ve been starbase Big Bad or something
>>11790723It's not a paradox, because it's a closed loop. It's also definitely intentional that the guy in the Covenant was supposed to be BW Megs - the Covenant of Primus is a very thinly veiled reference to the Christian Bible, and in the Bible, The Devil becomes The Great Destroyer and assumes the form of a massive red dragon that emerges from a pool of lava/ring of fire on The End of Days. TM2 Megatron losing his T-Rex form by falling into lava and emerging as a big red dragon wasn't random or coincidental.
>>11790820So who is Babylon the Great here?
>>11790820buddy that's just a prophecy
>>11790812It's very likely. The toy side of things would be making the BWII releases around the same time as BW S3. It's why II had the Cyborg beasts that were blatantly TMII inspired, why we got Optimus Minor (which is similar to Lio Jr), or why Cyber-Shark references a bunch of space pirates (because the season redecorate were being worked on in Japan around the same time).
>>11790812To be fair, the writer had to have some experience with JPTF because that same year had Optimal Optimus's function as Maximal “Supreme Commander”
>>11790797Yeah, that one always stood out to me - no idea why they didn't just quietly tweak the numbers, since by that point fans already saw him as the mad scientist of the group rather than the bumbling ninja. At least his 10th Anniversary toy's bio fixes that and gives him an Intelligence of 10 (and a Strength of 4, explaining why he gets his ass kicked so easily).
>>11790820>It's not a paradox, because it's a closed loopA bootstrap paradox is literally a closed loop. It's a paradox because the name has no origin that doesn't eventually loop back to itself.
maybe the covenant writer just made the Megatron name the fuck up after seeing a vision. nothing says they learned the name from the vision
>>11790820>TM2 Megatron losing his T-Rex form by falling into lava and emerging as a big red dragon wasn't random or coincidental....because Hasbro wasn't about to not shill the big expensive new toy.
>>11790770My first Optimus and Megatron was a Bat and an Alligator that was almost never referenced anywhere else but the comic it came with and Legends as far as I know.
>>11790716>I have never broken any modern figures that had clear plastic, only retards think clear plastic is a ticking time bomb liable to break at any momentYou say this every fucking thread but it depends on the toy. There are Microman toys that have clear plastic that BREAK INSIDE THEIR PACKAGING. Takara ones too. Palisades was notorious for it but as far as I know you had to take them out of the box for them to break. Lego though? Absolutely never.
>>11790838Yeah I guess I wont buy transformers anymore
>>11790835The Beast Wars Sourcebook had those as proposed forms during scanning
>>11790823Didnt the whole idea of Transmetal 2 come from the cyborg guys from BWII? I dont know if I just made that up or not.
>>11790835is Legends the one where they show that these were options they briefly considered, but then rejected?>>11790797I mean he's KIND OF a ninja, in the old sense. you could totally see in an 80s anime, this creepy cackling spidery guy in a lair, he's a ruthless ninja who drags people underground and stabs them and shit.
>>11790835Wasn’t there a rumor that Optimus and Megatron were going to be triple changers in the cartoon in order to advertise both toys, hence why Optimus has an open face plate like the bat toy?>>11790838I just love being a Transformers fan, don’t you?
>>11790838Sometimes they'll also randomly drop to the old prices when you pre-order. I ended up getting Nexus and Liege for 35 and 55 respectively. Still incredibly shitty though.
>>11790820this is simultaneously a stretch of logic and too obvious to be worth mentioning. which is a tough combo to pull off, but you managed.
>>11790838>hey let's do what already isn't working, but more!>>11790842I don't think the timeline bears that out.
>>11790842No, BWII started early in 98, S3 was later in the year. So both toylines were being worked on around the same time.
>>11790844Not the face thing, but that IS why Primal can fly. Early scripts had him flying in bat mode and that got reworked into his robot mode jets.
>>11790838A lot of the new wave's deluxes are showing up as $30 for me as well.
>>11790844I have no idea but a bunch of concept art for triple change designs were found somewhere. Tfraw has them. Optimus was going to be a bird gorilla at one point. Maybe at one point it was a bat for that reason instead? Either way I heard that's why Optimus could fly in the show. They wrote early drafts thinking he should be capable of flight or something like that.
>>11790838lmao I haven't paid retail for a TF since Siege.
>>11790853I prefer shit like jetpacks. it makes the robot modes more unique, AND it made episodes more tense because he showed up to every distant thing already partly overloaded with energon, so he couldn't stay in fights long sometimes. He had to bring rattrap in beast mode along so HE could, once they get there.
>>11790842>>11790848We know there’s a least a little crossover due to the similarities between Thrustor's and Dinobot II's heads, which probably isn’t a coincidence given both are “evolutions” of the original Dinobot mold
>>11790838Amazon scumbaggery or an early update to Hasbro's new pricing scheme?
>>11790853I'll never understand why his flying mode was a bird here, a bat makes infinitely more sense
>>11790857nah, that's just normal cyborg design cues.
>>11790835The post-Rescue Bots kiddie toyline got a brand new alligator Megatron mold.
>>11790857It got the feeling they were inspired by the Borg, Spawn toys and HR Giger too but it's just a feeling I can't really prove it. I think they're why I like biomechanical shit now as an adult. ( I didnt see Alien till much later thankfully that probably would have fucked me up.... I wish I didnt miss out on the old Kenner toys though)
>>11790862I wish they would combine the kiddy shit with the collector shit so we could get a bigger budgeted and higher quality stuff that was full if silly and dumb shit. I know it will never happen but still.
>>11790860why?
>>11790857I went looking for a good picture of the Borg to post, but >>11790861 beat me to it. Yeah, that isn't evidence of crossover since that was the vibe almost everyone thought of for cyborgs back in the 90's, especially with the lens over one eye.
>>11790835>>11790862And a whole new character based on Bat Primal showed up in the 2021 comics: Nyx.
>>11790860Rattrap as a bull crab was weirder. I think at one point they were going to make preexisting characters into tons of different animals. I cant find it anymore but the McDonald toy concept art had the mantra ray as Optimus and bug guy as Megatronhttps://www.tfraw.com/p/beast-wars-concept.html?m=1
>>11790862I swear the most random toylines love referencing Gator Megatron. We didn’t even get a Gator Megatron in Legends, even though we did get a Bat Optimus and Titans Return had a Headmaster that transformed into an Alligator>>11790865Because his first BW toy was a bat
>>11790867Wait how many bats even are there?Also remember Optimus became an alligator and Transmetal 3 Megatron has a bat mode because of Gigatrons bat mode. And there is a Bat that transformers into an Alligator but he is Soundwave...for some reason. Then there are rat bats who arnt bats...
>>11790872>but he is SoundwaveHe is A Soundwave, not THE Soundwave. And a bat being called Soundwave isn't that hard to figure out.
>>11790870>We didn’t even get a Gator Megatron in Legends,>>11790872>there is a Bat that transformers into an Alligator but he is Soundwave...for some reason.We got a version of Mutant Soundwave in Legends for some reason. But Megatron just had to borrow a body. I'm seriously tempted to get that BWII Gigastorm so I can put that Megatron head on his little car guy.
>>11790867>>11790872btw, Nyx's Predacon new-character-based-on-toy counterpart is Skold, based on Snapper. Both are girls, and in the 2021 comics are just there as part of the original crews.
>>11790868I’ve talked about it before, but one of my favorite eras to research is the gap between G2 and Beast Wars because they experimented with everything. Not only did they have two different animal themed pitches for McDonald’s (simplified transformers and Auto Rollers) but they also had concepts for a possible Vehicle Auto Roller set instead, based directly on the G2 molds, which would ironically eventually be included into Beast Wars through BWII
>>11790875Oh yeah I cant keep all this shit straight. I wish we got these in Universe. First of all the original died of GPS and the blue and gold reminds me of G1 Soundwave so you could headcanon it as an alternate universe Soundwave since it was some multiverse shit anyways.
>>11790880This shit is crazy to me because when I was a kid I put Optimus'head on depthcharges body because I always liked to kitbash shit. Which I deeply regret because I ruined everything.
>>11790885Forgot picture. I'm sad we never got a blackarachnia repaint in these colors in kingdoms. We actually got the other 2 in kingdoms
>>11790876Well, I have good news for you. The nee Gigastorm not only includes a new opening horn that houses bombs (attached via pegs), turns out the scout vehicle has a new HM, they gave it a Megastorm head for both the face and HM.
>trex colored alligator megatron is actually G1 megatron who scanned a alligator for reasons
>>11790887I was going to say that Blackwidow would be the perfect name for this redeco before realizing that Hasbro can’t use that name
>>11790885There are only two characters in Beast Wars that are 100% the G1 characters they share a name with: Grimlock, and Ravage. Most others are just name reuses, and a small handful either are or aren't depending on which universe you're looking at.
>>11790890Optimus did it too
>>11790880Beast Wars colors make so much more sense if you remember G2 had purple Megatron and a fee Optimuses with a lot of black.
>>11790890Well, they couldn’t do a light grey one, it’d be too close to Albitron>>11790894Isn’t one of the Prowls also implied to be the original>has terrible Binaltech related flashbacks You know what, forget it
Missing Link Ultra MagnusHasbro/BBTS Price: $194.99 + taxShowZ Price: $169.99, no taxIs this actually a KO or what, how can they afford to undercut MSRP?
>>11790900Heck, that’s even lower than Takara's price (¥27,500 or $172.96)
>>11790870so in your mind, this was made after that
>>11790879howmst the fuck is that a girl>>11790887Three blackarachnias who turn into black spiders would be a kinda tough sell.>>11790892cant trademark it, can use itwould disney whine? hell yes. and would they win? probably. Or theyd end up buying hasbro. but CAN they use it? yes.>>11790897Albitron got canceled pretty early though dinn'e.
>>11790870We didn't get one in Legends because they expected you'd use the Galvatron HM repaint included with Convobat on a Skullcruncher body.
>>11790907>howmst the fuck is that a girlhow is she... not?not every transformer is blessed with blackarachnia's big naturals
>>11790838I will continue to not buy things at retail
>>11790838I wouldn't be surprised if this is just Amazon fuckery as this happens for awhile in prices fluctuate before restabilizing the closer they get to release.After a month or so after release the prices go back up again.So this is nothing new when it comes to Amazon. Hell I saw Scrapper on there listed at $75.The only one that jacks up prices and then later uses MSRP as a "sales price" is TFSource.
>>11790918Amazon prices fluxuate randomly so yeah it'll probably go back. Managed to get Liege Maximo there for under MSRP for 55. sometimes they're low, sometimes high, just gotta check every now and then.
>>11790876I would have bought that Mutant Soundwave retooled from TR Mindwipe in a heartbeat, especially with the Nightbeat head like that!!
>>11790838Saw this when looking up voyager 86 Shockwave going for $50 pre-order, the heck is going on with pricing there? Heck the liege Maximo o pre-ordered months ago was 59.99 but dropped down to 55 when it shipped a couple days ago
