Some kind of announcement happening todayPrevious >>11786552>Upcoming Transformershttps://pastebin.com/pYznUV3y>Leaks and rumorshttps://pastebin.com/Q9Yb5FaX>Online Stores for TFshttps://pastebin.com/3raSp3ZY>Where to watch TF shows:https://pastebin.com/sR4Y7xWi>Transformers General Archives:https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/subject/%2Ftfg%2F%20-%20Transformers%20General/New thread at page 9 or 10 or at image limit
Here’s my list of what I think is going to be revealed>”Sleep Mode” Optimus>Commander class Rodimus >rest of MTMTE SS86 collection like Prowl, Allicon, and Quintesson>limited rerelease of The Movie in theatres
>>11789384>>11789502>Galvatron, a shell of his former self, has an arm cannon from the husk of his literal former self which serves as an inverse of the metamorphosis allegory.People will look you in the eye and say that Super Link is the worst transformers show when Cyberverse and Earthspark exist.Master Megatron (as they where intended to be the same character originally) was most likely going to complete this arc by fully merging with Unicron leaving behind the black hole.
>>11789955>limited rerelease of The Movie in theatresIn this economy?
>>11789975NTA and I agree that it seems unfeasible, but getting to see The Movie on the big screen would get me to drag my ass out to a theater more than the vast majority of new releases. I was born in the 90s though, so some of that is wanting a theatrical experience with that movie that I never got.
>>11789981I saw it in theaters for the 35th Anniversary. Theater didn't darken the lights enough and had a shit sound system so as an experience it was underwhelming. Wife hadn't seen it and she really liked it.
>>11789975Why not? The UK had one just 2 years ago so if they did another I would be down to go see it.
>>11789955Sentinel Prime apparently
>>11789995>Tarn retoolKinda disappointing, it's a good mould but would have liked something new.Mirage looks like he's gonna be nice though.
>>11789995Is that the tarn mold?
>>11789999I dunno, seems fairly accurate
>>11790002Man, Sentinel always being some kind of asshole has really stuck since TFA huh?
>>11790004Nothing wrong with thatThough I'd prefer he's a good asshole instead of a traitor
>>11789961I just want a pack of reissue Diaclone drivers. Is that too much to hope for?
>>11789970Cyberverse was unironically great. The Quintesson simulation arc was brilliant.The only thing holding it back was its ADHD format.
>>11790035Cyberverse has too many characters none of whom are remotely distinct or interesting and are often more one note than even many of the G1 cast. Season 3 had some good ideas but it's hard to sit through because the story is portrayed in the most boring way imaginable
>>11789961I want standard 86 starscream news.
>>11789970It's unironically is worse than cyberverse>looks awful even for it's time>ratchet is missing, jetfire, starscream, ironhide, have their arcs undone>huge amount of padding Also you can thank they toy designers for the tank, the show didnt capitalize on it
This is a long shot. Does anybody know in which of Thew's Transformers review he says something is "a bit Naked Lunch, isn't it?"? I recently watched that movie and want to finally get the reference. I think it was one of the older reviews.
Is it worth it to glue on Liege Maximo’s shoulder pads? He’s really sick but these shoulder pads keep popping off, it’s the only really annoying thing about this dude
>>11789995Which Sentinel though?
>>117900793 posts down anon
>>11790079I assume at least based on >>11790002
>>11790075Knock-Off Beatdown 2
>>11790004That page predates Animated
>>11790090Not only that, the story itself predates IDW. It was originally written for Dreamwave.
>>11789999>>11790001I have Tarn and both Bludgeons and I'll gladly get SenTarnal Prime
>>11790089why do you lie
>>11790080I just don't see enough similarity with Tarn for them to get away with using Tarn's mold for him.
>>11790075have you looked through any review of a figure with an insect altmode?
still praying for Deluxe G1 Optimus in this ML Sentinel deco>>11790098it's probably a case of "this guy won't sell enough to warrant a new mold and this is better than nothing"
>>11790102I got that ML Prime, it’s genuinely a great colourI think it’s funny that the Overgear Prime looks like this colour scheme and would do look better with the yellow head too
>>11789981>>11789984I'm an old fart that saw it in first release. Remember being bummed because everyone got killed
>>11790077I've been considering it. As a half measure, you could coat the inside surfaces of the pad, let it dry, and then rely on the extra friction to keep them in place.
>>11790097Lack of truth.
>>11790004IDW2019 is the closest thing to a modern exception, he's kind of a dick but he actually is well meaning.
>>11790126That’s the best personality for Sentinel, in my opinion. Well meaning, but just missing the overall compassion that Optimus has
>>11790184Well that's... a thing
>>11790184>>11790186Reminds me of this one GI Joe playset.
>>11790185Also I see you new Vector Prime sword
>IDWslopMoney saved
>>11790184Is it a pumpkin for halloween?
>>11790184>forklift certified prime
>>11790180>>11790184>>11790185>>11790190>+$25 for a fucking empty disc
>>11790180>>11790184I’ll take it over fucking Star Convoy that’s for sure.Still would like to see a Zeta (yes I know) still.
>>11790180>>11790184>>11790185>>11790190hahahahaha what the fuck is this shit?
>>11790185WHY ARE THE NAMES WRITTEN IN ENGLISH?
>>11790185>now with Evo-Fusion action
>>11790184It’s a bullshit alt mode but I kinda like it
>>11790185>>11790227should we start taking bets on tolerance issues? will the holes be too loose or too tight? will the artifacts' 5mm pegs snap-off?
>>11790184Woah, we finally got Legacy Eveelotuion United Go-Bots Universe Tank . . . Too bad he's the wrong colors.
>>11790180>>11790184>>11790185>>11790190$67.99 btw
>>11790185This looks fucking stupid
>>11790180>>11790184Don't care about IDW but I did love the Tarn mold and this is a cool redeco especially the alt mode is something new>>11790194So this confirms Thirteen Vector Prime is going to be a Toy Deco Vector Prime? Nice, glad I picked up the original Legacy version for a show accurate one so I can have both>>11790238Poorfags need not be in this hobby
>>11790180>>11790184>>11790185>>11790190orange bot bad
>>11790185I was literally thinking last night it was going to just be some round table esque thing they could stand around.
>>11790180>>11790184>>11790185So whats his deal anyway? Secret 14th Prime? Or is it like One where he's the betrayer and kills them all and takes their artifacts or something
>>11790240>Poorfags need not be in this hobbySorry I don't want to pay $25 for a plastic circle.
>>11790244I assume it’s like one, without the betrayalEither that or he’s the chosen protector of the Primes
>>11790244Boxart shows prima and micronus dead in the background so I guess they’re going with asshole betrayer this time.
>>11790244hes just a non-god Prime like Nova, Nominus etc
>>11790249>micronus Nvm I just looked at it again and it’s alchemist, the green arms mixed me up, my bad
>>11789981Same, I was a kid in the 90s and only ever saw via vhs rentals, but I’d love to see it on a big screen with a good sound system once. I don’t think it’s infeasible: the few local cineplexes remaining have all done some limited re-release screenings since 2017, and it’s accelerated since Covid and new movies being increasingly unwatchable. Ironically, the theaters were packed for the re-releases but not for the new films.
>>11790251Weird considering Alchemist is usually the one that survives into the modern day.
>>11790184I shouldn't like this as much as I do.
>>11790065>looks awful even for it's timeMost anime, bad or good, looks awful.>ratchet is missingDoesn't need to be there. Transformers always had revolving casts>jetfire, starscream, ironhide, have their arcs undoneJetfire's development carries on and Starscream's regression into a slave was alright initially especially with how Megatron messes with his head. The problem is that only the first half was actually written and they winged it to hell and back.SL is definitely the weakest of the 3 but even then I'd still rather watch it than anything after Prime where they hired people who can't make anything interesting in the slightest.
>>11790184
>>11790255Even getting to see it on VHS was a magical experience that endeared me to TF forever, but it would be nice to hear The Touch blasting on theater speakers just once. And that's actually a good point, a lot of theaters today do make way more from screening niche nerd shit than mainstream releases.
>>11790259>Most anime, bad or good, looks awful.
>>11790184Its a....uhhh......snail?
>>11790267forklift or zamboni
>>11790184Choro Q Sentinel Prime
>>11790267
>>11790184that's as half-assed a retool as legacy quake, maybe even worse
lol
>>11790272I mean I guess that’s what they were going for, they just didn’t succeed at that at all.
>>11790275that thing's covering up a huge fuckass gap, isn't it. also how the fuck is THAT nearly 70 DOLLARS?
>>11790276Maybe not remold him from Tarn? It just doesn't work. Bludgeon worked because they had a Bludgeon design that was specifically: Tarn remold.
>>11790262>Most anime, bad or good, looks awful.This is objectively true, especially during the growing pains of the early 2000s. You just weren't exposed to the mass majority of it at the time. Even if the CGI is ugly as sin it's still superior to shit like 2016 Berserk and a lot of the other subsequent 3D shows since you can just excuse the stiff animations with "they're robots"
>>11790283holy shit I've never seen a take so rancid
>>11790275ready to drive the everglades
>>11790284You aren't seriously suggesting that Berserk's CGI is better than Transformers Energon?
>>11790180>>11790184HOLY SHIT IT'S NOT JUNKION TITAN thanks godfor a second from thumbnails i thought this ugly stupid lanky long shit is that "Junkion Titan" that was rumored.because of rusty-yellow colors and stupid mode (i thought it's a garbage truck)and i thought my day is ruined because Junkion Titan is the main thing i'm waiting for from transformers (i even sniped 3 more junkions on discount while waiting because im going to display them all together)thanks god..That thing is stupid btw. who would want this. It literally looks like cleaning truck/garbage truck.I can see them riding at 5:00AM on Cybertron cleaning streets
>>11790287>I can see them riding at 5:00AM on Cybertron cleaning streetskek
>>11790286no, the "this is objectively true" part
>>11790180>Complete tarn retool>STILL has the fucked up retard shouldersThese fucking designers man
new selects three packlooks like mirage is retooled slightly so his shoulder cannon actually works as a shoulder cannon?
>>11790180I like his bot design >>11790184But this looks like a random star wars cgi addition Lucas added among a bunch of other random changes
>>11790295AND HIS NAME IS
>>11790259Super link/energon Starscream really just isn't micron legend/Armada Starscream.Even if it's the same spark he's been so totally reset by the loss of his memories he ends up a whole new person.Moving from there to Cybertron where he should be the same character is even crazier, since somehow he got un-lobotimized by the energon sun and regained enough agency that he became possibly the most successful Starscream possibly ever.
>>11790180I mean the retooling on the bot mode looks pretty nice actually>>11790184But I was honestly hoping for the train from Titans ReturnIt’s overpriced as fuck too though, like what the actual fuck?
>>11790295Cant tell if whoever made this awful edit shit the colors or they're genuinely that bad.I find it funny they just gave Mirage a 3rd party adapter
>>11790190I can't be the only one who immediately thought of the old 'Promotions' meme when I saw this box art.
>>11790295Will probably get this for an Ironhide and Bluestreak that won't somehow break in the future.
>>11790302Well now you aren't.
>>11790295Damn, I don't wanna rebuy Ironhide even for painted windows, but I do kinda want the other two.
>>11790295BAH GAWD>>11790293By Primus, I wish I could go back to that time.Tried to reply to all the Sentinel humor but somehow that makes my post spam. Really can't decide if I want to keep ML Sentinel Prime once I get this. Definitely a less humorous one, that's for sure.
>>11790293FLCL isn't most anime, it's arguably the furthest from your typical anime to begin with. Most of what's popular was the best stuff. There's a whole bunch of bargain bin shit that you didn't see from studios you never heard of
>>11790314>>11790313>>11790295oh it's that autobot guy
>>11790306Those baby blue windows are ugly as all hell and the sooner we're done with them, the better
The Movie's coming back into theaters September 17th>>11790313Maybe now they’ll make a Skid-Z out of this Mirage mold
>>11790314The Ironhide we should've gotten from the start instead of making 30% of him clear plastic and missing the stripe
>>11790320enjoy your broken transparent plastic
>>11790313>>11790314Subtle.
>>11790315Ah the "this anime actually isn't actually anime because I like it" stance. Rare these days.
>>11790287>It literally looks like cleaning truck/garbage truck.>I can see them riding at 5:00AM on Cybertron cleaning streetsLMAOO>>11789416He pretty much kept Sandstorm & Tidal/Shockwave personalities when they were reformatted. my take (cold take) is that it serves Galvatron, these 2 are unhinged but loyal to him (wherever it was in the previous anime or this one), no wonder he wouldn't have the old Starscream who challenged him at every opportunity; better have a servant for the narcissistic leader he isJust Ironhide/Demolishor is annoying af when he's reformatted into Irontread>>11790320Agreed
>>11790324>>11790320>>11790314>>11790313I want a combination of the two. The way they did clear plastic with metallic underlays for Kingdom Sideswipe and Earthrise Sunstreaker/Spinout was my favorite and they never really did it again
>>11790314mirage's vehicle is a bit of a let down
>>11790185This thing sucks
>>11790339I wonder what its a conduit for. Like, in universe.
>>11790314A more muted blue would've been swell
>>11790313>>11790314I get that people can take or leave the windows, but I still think gray face > silver face every time.>>11790323Shit, guess I am paying to see something in theaters this year.
>>11790343To open the well of allsparks supposedly.
>>11789970>>11790065It's really frustrating how many cool ideas the UT had that were completely dropped because Takara failed at communicating these ideas to the studios they contracted.It's disappointing that this lead to such a distrust over letting Japanese studios handle the property it's still felt 20 years on, long after basically everyone working at Hasbro at the time has now left. I hate how obtuse people are bout GF/Cybertron's relation to Armada/Energon because the anime aren't related, when it's so, so clear that the cast is meant to have a bunch of returning Armada/Energon characters that were still relatively new characters/ designs at the time. "Excellion" is 100% designed to be the third series' Hot Shot.
>>11790313I'll get this. I'm still rocking Earthrise Ironhide and I never got the other two so this works for me.
>>11790343sewer lid
>>11790339how the hell are they gonna justify charging $25 for a crummy plastic disk?
>>11790314goddamn mirage looks rough next to the other altmodes
>>11790379They revealed the price?
>>11790383Aww dude don't be like thatMan got new tire and front wing just for the occasion
>>11790384The Sentinel Prime + Conduit pack is $67.99
>>11790388Sheesh.
>>11790386he's a good toy (though my copy has shit tolerances) but he is wildly inaccurate compared to the others
>>11790314I really wish they would make the windows black and not this extremely ugly blue
>>11790185>>11790339I like how this wasn't designed with any real effort or intent. Like they just made a big dish and went "shit... how do we put things on it?" and slapped a bunch of random fucking port holes and connections fucking up the sculpt and names underneath. No special connections, not even an aesthetically pleasing arrangement, just total incompetence.
>>11790379They should be charging that much for Pokemon creatures instead.
>>11790384You know what they say, reveal the shield, reveal the price.
>>11790406They should be charging that much for a bucket of water instead
>>11790409Too crummy.
>>11790361It's more than just the studios. Archer has basically said they had no control over the shows because in Japan overall control of the show was in the hands of the director(s) and there was no mechanism for compelling them to follow HasTak's dictates.
>>11790261>magical experienceThe only letdown was going back to the tv show and being underwhelmed by the goofy plots and dialogue, and the poor animation compared to the film, which is peak 80s anime.>niche nerd shitI thought my brother and I would be some of the only people in that screen for wrath of khan, but it was packed, sold out. A couple of our friends were seeing The Last Jedi at the same place, same time, and they told us they had the whole place to themselves.
>>11790418Good honestly, Archer writing wouldve been worse
>>11790418It's crazy to me that S3 was so much worse,nyou think they would try harder after the movie
>>11790313>>11790314Mirage got some extensive retooling. He even has pinned wheels now.
>>11790065>>11790259Energon Starscream was a huge misopportunity. The circumstances of his return is eerily similar to that of Transmetal II Dinobot as well as how Megatron in the end still has a soft spot for the guy that he got him 'back' in his ranks once more. If only Japan received S3 of Beast Wars, the existence of Transmetal II Dinobot could've been fresh on their mind and we'd get Energon Starscream with a character arc based on the former. An amnesiac warrior who is ever loyal to Megatron's command thanks to his brainwashing but slowly parts of his old memories begins to resurface until the latter half where he begins to act indecisive, torn between following Megatron who by that point is possessed by Unicron and following the path he set himself back in Armada. In thr end, Starscream would make one final sacrifice again and being able to temporarily free Megatron/Galvatron from Unicron's control so that the latter can make his final move and plunge himself into the Energon Sun, dying not as a puppet of Unicron but as Megatron.
>>11790442>If only Japan received S3 of Beast WarsThey... did?Are you thinking of Japan not getting S3 of Prime? Or Japan not getting Beast Machines until much later on?
>>11790444Well nvm, apparently Japan got BW S1 and then that led to BWII and Neo and only then did they get S2 and S3 of BW under the Metals banner. I thought they only got S1 and S2. My point still stands however.
>>11790180>>11790185>>11790275>giant hole in the middle of the disk >can't have it on him and use the star convoy piece to fill in the gaping ugly holegenuinely what were they thinking
>>11790448>and then that led to BWII and Neo and only then did they get S2 and S3 of BWYeah, because S3 literally wasn't finished yet. II and Neo were filler series.
>>11790452Well they could've gotten S2 while waiting for S3.
>>11790454S2 finished airing in English RIGHT when BWII starting airing.
>>11790455Then they could've aired S2 after BWII finished.
>>11790325>plastic can ONLY be clear or solid baby blue>nothing else!!
>>11790325Not my fault you're a fat retard who has worse precision than literal 5 year olds.
>>11790442That would have been good. They could even have used his immersion in super energon as the catalyst for his memories to return.Much as I like Super Link, Nightscream was the single biggest miss in the whole show. Bad enough that they aborted his rather interesting introduction to the show with the brainwashing but then later, with the aforementioned super energon bath, they took away everything that was visually cool about his design.
>>11790457why?by that point they would have known that A), it ends on a massive cliffhanger, and B) everyone's still in metal-ly beast bodies. might as well package the two last seasons together for cohesiveness's sake.not to mention the BWII leads directly into BWN's plot, so keeping those two shows together is a good idea as well.
>>11790329Thats not what I meant, did you even read what I said? FLCL was a standout anime even for it's time and it still is now. Do you actually know what you're talking about?
>>11790180I have come here with the sole purpose of reminding you that Jizaitoys figured out how to do a freakishly accurate G1 Sentinel Prime a literal decade ago: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/440509876.htmlAnd then to taunt you with the knowledge that none of us will ever own one, because no one has yet discovered his ~True-name~, and thereby magically compelled him to share this or any of his other files, Rumpelstiltskin-style.
>>11790451Star's Zodiac does go in the middle.
>>11790463Wouldn't have mattered either way. BWNeo does not transition into Metals that great if at all anyways.
>>11790465It's a little known fact, but despite not being closely genetically related, Japanese Shape-wizards actually share a number of behavioral traits with European Fey, on account of both occupying similar ecological niches.I'm not sure if they also do the 'excepting your first-born child as valid payment in deals made with them' thing, though.
>>11790471https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/440671604.html
>>11790184It's funny how everyone kept reposting the design from the mobile game that we all forgot to check what Sentinel's alt mode actually looked like in the comic proper.This is actually not a bad likeness, though a bit squished.
>>11790474>>11790272
>>11790473Also here's his Zeta Prime to aadd insult to injury:https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/465463487.html
>>11790479https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/489576769.html
>>11790474Now if someone *cough*DNA*cough* would make some apex armor for him...
>>11790471>>11790473Fuuuuck that's so good. 3Ps could make so much money doing chug scales that hasbro won't or can't do right
>>11790470>BWNeo does not transition into Metals that great if at all anyways.It doesn't, at all, because it's not supposed to. BW and BWII/N take place in completely different time periods. But it's better to have one break (BW - BWII/N - BW) than three (BW - BWII - BW - BWN - BW).
>>11790487Nah it would've been more funnier if they did three breaks like that.
>>11790483
>>11790486I'd actually buy 3rd party if they started doing stuff closer in size, complexity, and price to CHUG. a lot of them look cool but I don't want massive bots that are a drawn-out pain to transform
>>11790185>>11790240I'm all for this deco of Vector Prime - so long as he's actually a new mold this time. I own the original mold in his black and brown Universe colors, plus the Legacy one (with upgrade kit) in his show colors (roughly. He was white, not grey), so it would be neat to have his last deco also on its own mold.
>>11790244You've got some dead Primes in the background, plus him doing the stereotypical "MWAHAHA!" super villain pose, so I'm guessing the latter.
>>11790510So just like in One.
>>11790507>see a cool looking 3P>watch video of somebody transforming it>no longer interestedSo many cases like this
>>11788911Words cannot describe how much I don't like how that looks. What were they thinking?
>>11790507I always assumed they stuck to MP and legends scale to avoid stepping on hasbros chug toes so they don’t get hit with like a lawsuit.
>>11790522Hasbro wont do shit
>>11790244A Go-Bot that crossed dimensions to get vengeance on the Transformers
>>11789947>Peppa Pig gets eaten by Tarantulasinteresting
>>11790004IDW quite literally turned him into a "Trump bad" meme and shit up his characterIt only got recovered later when they did so badly they basically got slapped and told to do normal shit
>>11790180>>11790184>>11790185>>11790190Thats..an alt mode for sureI kinda wish he was more orange. This cheddar color is awful and I KNOW it'll fucking yellowEasy passPlease 3PI'm fucking beggingRemake SOMETHING like the PotP Throne set
>>11790528they really didn't
>>11790388Guess Hasbro really is making their exclusives way more expensive. Skybound Optimus, Nemesis Prime, this. Guess they want me to buy less.
>>11790466I know I mean while he has it on his arm>>11790180, but he can't because the hole is likely already filled like in >>11790275
>>11790543Hasbro has nothing to do with the price of Nemesis Star Convoy.
Updated huffer whenI have kingdom pipes but I want a slightly more robust little guy in line with current things like gears.Is retro huffer on the cards?
>>11790527>Decisive Predacon strategic victory
>>11790528it's funny to me that you saw a generically evil leader character (who was previously shown to be evil a full decade before trump took office) and just assumed that it's supposed to be a trump reference by those damn liberals
>>11790506Glup Shinto’s are actually a staple of who jizai chooses to design. Of just G1 ones there’s:G1 cartoon:-Kranix: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/490995782.html-Lithone child: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/511256838.html#more-The Autoscout: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/504944646.html-Gyronian Sentry: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/451327896.html-Dropkick transport drone: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/503040628.html-Cargo Warrior drone: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/454469702.html-Defcon: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/499028885.html(Arguably not Glup Shitto’s. But the Female Autobots did only appear in a single episode of the original show.)-Greenlight: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/473717110.html-Firestar: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/438263466.html-Moonracer: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/197954422.html
>>11790553Funnily enough, they did make a G1 toy head for Road Ranger, so it’s entirely possible we’ll get a Retro Huffer at some point
>>11790551I'm talking about Armada Nemesis, or did you completely forget the shitstorm when they revealed it?
>>11790544The shield and Conduit are two separate pieces.
>>11790222that is kinda dumb>>11790286those are both anime though
>>11790560Marvel comics:-Scrounge: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/364646997.html-The Last Autobot: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/459792012.html-Tusks (Piano bot): https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/481037610.html3H Universe comics:-Granny Tank: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/474705597.html#moreG1 Toys:-Fast track: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/454140681.html-Powerdrive: https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/442693630.htmlBM not G1, but his Wheel-boobs and butt Strika is both amazing and Hilarious:https://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/441336125.html
>>11790307it was an amazing time.. I miss it.>>11790339>hole right through some of the names>only twelve slots for the Thirteenokay>>11790379what the ass, 25 dollars>>11790406I'd buy those
>>11790567No, the shield is still needed to complete it, it can be removed from the slab for Sentinel, but you still need to attach it to complete the whole thing since the Zodiac slots into it.
>>11790544>>11790567
>>11790004He used to have more nuance. Origins Sentinel was a militaristic hardass but still had good intentions at heart.He wanted peace and order even if it meant defending a corrupt government that he himself didn't like.Now he's just a one note villain because Optimus is the only one allowed to be a good Prime.
>>11790576He was actually a good guy in IDW2, Optimus looked like a complete moron by comparison, even if the comic wanted you to think Optimus was right.
>>11790507>>117905131000%
>>11790521>What were they thinking?Three many cooks spoil the zoidzoids and diaclone, and transformers and diaclone, and zoids and transformers, all feel like fantastic crossovers. but the THREE? that's like trying to wear a jacket and a half.
>>11790570The circle in the middle is meant for the Zodiac, since the Thirteenth is supposed to be mysterious
>>11790557he's been playing that character on TV for a lot longer. remember? "you're fired" was the catchphrase.what's weird to me is people think he's real. I thought Colbert was real for a little while, but I was a teenager.
>>11790566Yes, I did.
>>11790569this has CGI Palz energy>>11790585oh fair enough, I kinda dig that. My favorite is when there's six of something with a hidden seventh, that fits in the center of a hexagon thing
>>11790589Like Takanuva?
>>11790582I remember seeing that 3p Metroplex with that weird Russian name. It looked so cool... until I learned the arms could sheer off at the shoulder since they used a tiny connection. Still sad about, since it looks reallly good.
>>11790314Hasbro please god just give me metallic fucking windows.
>>11790578>>11790576He wasn't even really actually bad in idw1 until they retconned him back to life and made him a vague Trump allegory with species supremacist ideas like they gave Nova, who was also vaguely framed as a heroic figure until he got Nemesis Primed and went psycho.
>>11790314more gluppo shittierinos
>>11790625I kinda like the idea that Nova was kinda like the stereotypical fantasy hero character until he gets corrupted into a demon lord type figure as his version of Nemesis.Almost makes me think every prime should have their own Nemesis prime variant, though I DESPISE when the main Optimus of a story gets turned into him.
>>11790627Even if your memeing that's not what that means.
>>11790631okay boomer
>>11790630would nemesis megatronus be a good guy?
>>11790636Heh
>>11790185>This is why Megatronus snapped.Also, Megatronus is and always has been a stupid name. He’s the herald of Entropy and/or prime of destruction; Terminus was right there, and at that point in time, completely unused.
>>11790630>DESPISE when the main Optimus of a story gets turned into himThis has literally only happened in The Last Knight>>11790633Takara occasionally pairs Black Convoy releases with Shadow Megatrons. They're still bad guys.
>>11790110I was a 6 year old kid and loved the whole thing watching it in theaters in August 1986. Spike cursing was awesome. Finally the stakes were big.
>>11790642>Let's call him... Megatron us. Totally not a bad guy btw.Also retroactively makes Megatron being named after him stupid
>>11790651No more stupid than Megatron (BW) being named after Megatron
>>11790651>>11790654I always thought Megatronus was (partially) created to be the Megatron BW Megatron mentions in the Covenant of Primus
>>11790313>>11790314mirage looks cool
>>11790656That was the idea, yes.
>>11790654I call him barneytron
>>11790313Looks pretty good, but with current time prices, I'm not keen on spending too much when I only want two of them.
>>11790636PREVIOUSLY, on X-men:
>>11790650as a 1 year old at the time, who grew up on beast wars, I was still aware enough of the infamous 'oh shit' that, when it was homaged in the first baymovie, I cracked up. then quickly explained to my dad 'in the old animated transformers movie from the 80s, that was the one swear they snuck in for that PG rating'
>>11790681actually, 11 month old.. god damn, you were watching transformers, I was still on the titty. How's your back doing? Mine's shit.
>>11790642>Megatronus is and always has been a stupid nameAlso it ruins the cool bootstrap paradox from beast wars.
>>11790656>the Megatron BW Megatron mentions in the Covenant of PrimusThat was literally supposed to be himself though. G1 Megatron names himself after the guy in the covenant then BW Megatron names himself after G1 Megatron and ends up BEING the guy from the covenant.
>>11790691Also, for the record, Beast Wars is its own continuity, so Megatronus/The Fallen was never a thing in it. Probably.
>>11790692>The guy that didn't exist wasn't a thing in the thing that existed before he existed.No shit.
>>11790184fuckin power ranger zord foot>>11790275>>goatse_prime.jpg
>>11790680heard it in my head kek
>>11790686>>11790691Another reason the virgin 13 brand synergy primes are inferior to the chad slow drip schizolore Thirteen.
>>11790698
>>11790325I have never broken any modern figures that had clear plastic, only retards think clear plastic is a ticking time bomb liable to break at any moment. I knocked out the pins on ER Prowl back in the day to take him apart and the clear plastic in the knees didn't stress at all. It's only when it's poorly designed like on Jazz or Tracks that it's a liability. Or like Energon Demolishor's elbows.
>>11790709>This was some swell shindig. Thank you very muuuch.
>>11790686>>11790691The Covenant contents aren't supposed to be a paradox. They're already written by the time the Ark and Nemesis crash on Earth, long before any of the philosophized events happen during the Beast Wars. The two ships are where Primal and Megs find them to read them.
>>11790723>They're already written by the time the Ark and Nemesis crash on Earth, long before any of the philosophized events happen during the Beast Wars.That's how a prophecy works you retard, you predict what will come to be
>>11790723that whole season is such a blur, I could not keep track of when Megatron found this book or that driver or whatever>>11790745I think what anon means is, Beast Megatron did not inspire the character in the prophecy -by being there back in time when it was written- because it wasn't, yet. I didn't pick up on that at all. I thought he WAS writing it, and thus would the future cybertrons find it, millions of years later, and go 'whoa, prophecy'
>>11790723>They're already written by the time the Ark and Nemesis crash on EarthYeah by some writer who foresaw future events. Events like a dragon named megatron threatening all of space-time. A dragon who got his name from a guy who got his name from the dragon. Which comes back to the paradox of where did the name originally come from.
>>11790745I didn't say they weren't a prophecy, genius. I said they weren't a paradox. Those are two different things.Though, rereading my post, I accidentally corrected prophesied to philosophized.>>11790748Megatron finding the driver is never depicted, he just suddenly has it. Season 3 is a bit unpolished in a lot of areas, some of which was caused by Hasbro fucking them around.
So we're getting the gold edition Vector Prime to cap off the original 13?
Check out the fiction from the Beast Wars toyline universe! There's some differences to the show.
>>11790766The Covenant prophecies as a whole aren't the paradox. The existence of the NAME Megatron itself is the paradox.
>>11790784It doesn't really matter, that bit about the name is part of season 3's unpolishedness anyways. Megatron says in season 2 he's named after G1 Megatron, but in S3 says he got the name directly from the Covenant.
>>11790794Man, what hack writer made that blunder?
>>11790770Gotta love how, even after they redirected the toyline fiction to be more like the show, they still keep Tarantulas as a stupid ninja instead of saying the quantum surge made him smart, or something.
>>11790796That episode in particular has a lot of weird things, like Depth Charge flying in robot mode, Cheetor flying at all, Cheetor in the wrong body, Rampage having apparently attacked ANOTHER location full of Depth Charge's friends in the past...
>>11790801>like Depth Charge flying in robot modeand beast mode*
>>11790770Do we know who wrote the Tech Specs for Beats Wars? I love all the little references they put in, Like TM2 Cybershark hunting the BWII Seacons
>>11790809That's not necessarily the BWII Seacons, it's just a plays on a shark hunting pirates (but robots and space because Transformers)
>>11790801> Rampage having apparently attacked ANOTHER location full of Depth Charge's friends in the past...I thought the idea was that DC was chasing him down, probably not too out of the ordinary that he’d recognize some of Rampage’s other victims.Both places were references to a specific Botcon vendor too, which is kinda funny. Like a few years later it could’ve been starbase Big Bad or something
>>11790723It's not a paradox, because it's a closed loop. It's also definitely intentional that the guy in the Covenant was supposed to be BW Megs - the Covenant of Primus is a very thinly veiled reference to the Christian Bible, and in the Bible, The Devil becomes The Great Destroyer and assumes the form of a massive red dragon that emerges from a pool of lava/ring of fire on The End of Days. TM2 Megatron losing his T-Rex form by falling into lava and emerging as a big red dragon wasn't random or coincidental.
>>11790820So who is Babylon the Great here?
>>11790820buddy that's just a prophecy
>>11790812It's very likely. The toy side of things would be making the BWII releases around the same time as BW S3. It's why II had the Cyborg beasts that were blatantly TMII inspired, why we got Optimus Minor (which is similar to Lio Jr), or why Cyber-Shark references a bunch of space pirates (because the season redecorate were being worked on in Japan around the same time).
>>11790812To be fair, the writer had to have some experience with JPTF because that same year had Optimal Optimus's function as Maximal “Supreme Commander”
>>11790797Yeah, that one always stood out to me - no idea why they didn't just quietly tweak the numbers, since by that point fans already saw him as the mad scientist of the group rather than the bumbling ninja. At least his 10th Anniversary toy's bio fixes that and gives him an Intelligence of 10 (and a Strength of 4, explaining why he gets his ass kicked so easily).
>>11790820>It's not a paradox, because it's a closed loopA bootstrap paradox is literally a closed loop. It's a paradox because the name has no origin that doesn't eventually loop back to itself.
maybe the covenant writer just made the Megatron name the fuck up after seeing a vision. nothing says they learned the name from the vision
>>11790820>TM2 Megatron losing his T-Rex form by falling into lava and emerging as a big red dragon wasn't random or coincidental....because Hasbro wasn't about to not shill the big expensive new toy.
>>11790770My first Optimus and Megatron was a Bat and an Alligator that was almost never referenced anywhere else but the comic it came with and Legends as far as I know.
>>11790716>I have never broken any modern figures that had clear plastic, only retards think clear plastic is a ticking time bomb liable to break at any momentYou say this every fucking thread but it depends on the toy. There are Microman toys that have clear plastic that BREAK INSIDE THEIR PACKAGING. Takara ones too. Palisades was notorious for it but as far as I know you had to take them out of the box for them to break. Lego though? Absolutely never.
>>11790838Yeah I guess I wont buy transformers anymore
>>11790835The Beast Wars Sourcebook had those as proposed forms during scanning
>>11790823Didnt the whole idea of Transmetal 2 come from the cyborg guys from BWII? I dont know if I just made that up or not.
>>11790835is Legends the one where they show that these were options they briefly considered, but then rejected?>>11790797I mean he's KIND OF a ninja, in the old sense. you could totally see in an 80s anime, this creepy cackling spidery guy in a lair, he's a ruthless ninja who drags people underground and stabs them and shit.
>>11790835Wasn’t there a rumor that Optimus and Megatron were going to be triple changers in the cartoon in order to advertise both toys, hence why Optimus has an open face plate like the bat toy?>>11790838I just love being a Transformers fan, don’t you?
>>11790838Sometimes they'll also randomly drop to the old prices when you pre-order. I ended up getting Nexus and Liege for 35 and 55 respectively. Still incredibly shitty though.
>>11790820this is simultaneously a stretch of logic and too obvious to be worth mentioning. which is a tough combo to pull off, but you managed.
>>11790838>hey let's do what already isn't working, but more!>>11790842I don't think the timeline bears that out.
>>11790842No, BWII started early in 98, S3 was later in the year. So both toylines were being worked on around the same time.
>>11790844Not the face thing, but that IS why Primal can fly. Early scripts had him flying in bat mode and that got reworked into his robot mode jets.
>>11790838A lot of the new wave's deluxes are showing up as $30 for me as well.
>>11790844I have no idea but a bunch of concept art for triple change designs were found somewhere. Tfraw has them. Optimus was going to be a bird gorilla at one point. Maybe at one point it was a bat for that reason instead? Either way I heard that's why Optimus could fly in the show. They wrote early drafts thinking he should be capable of flight or something like that.
>>11790838lmao I haven't paid retail for a TF since Siege.
>>11790853I prefer shit like jetpacks. it makes the robot modes more unique, AND it made episodes more tense because he showed up to every distant thing already partly overloaded with energon, so he couldn't stay in fights long sometimes. He had to bring rattrap in beast mode along so HE could, once they get there.
>>11790842>>11790848We know there’s a least a little crossover due to the similarities between Thrustor's and Dinobot II's heads, which probably isn’t a coincidence given both are “evolutions” of the original Dinobot mold
>>11790838Amazon scumbaggery or an early update to Hasbro's new pricing scheme?
>>11790853I'll never understand why his flying mode was a bird here, a bat makes infinitely more sense
>>11790857nah, that's just normal cyborg design cues.
>>11790835The post-Rescue Bots kiddie toyline got a brand new alligator Megatron mold.
>>11790857It got the feeling they were inspired by the Borg, Spawn toys and HR Giger too but it's just a feeling I can't really prove it. I think they're why I like biomechanical shit now as an adult. ( I didnt see Alien till much later thankfully that probably would have fucked me up.... I wish I didnt miss out on the old Kenner toys though)
>>11790862I wish they would combine the kiddy shit with the collector shit so we could get a bigger budgeted and higher quality stuff that was full if silly and dumb shit. I know it will never happen but still.
>>11790860why?
>>11790857I went looking for a good picture of the Borg to post, but >>11790861 beat me to it. Yeah, that isn't evidence of crossover since that was the vibe almost everyone thought of for cyborgs back in the 90's, especially with the lens over one eye.
>>11790835>>11790862And a whole new character based on Bat Primal showed up in the 2021 comics: Nyx.
>>11790860Rattrap as a bull crab was weirder. I think at one point they were going to make preexisting characters into tons of different animals. I cant find it anymore but the McDonald toy concept art had the mantra ray as Optimus and bug guy as Megatronhttps://www.tfraw.com/p/beast-wars-concept.html?m=1
>>11790862I swear the most random toylines love referencing Gator Megatron. We didn’t even get a Gator Megatron in Legends, even though we did get a Bat Optimus and Titans Return had a Headmaster that transformed into an Alligator>>11790865Because his first BW toy was a bat
>>11790867Wait how many bats even are there?Also remember Optimus became an alligator and Transmetal 3 Megatron has a bat mode because of Gigatrons bat mode. And there is a Bat that transformers into an Alligator but he is Soundwave...for some reason. Then there are rat bats who arnt bats...
>>11790872>but he is SoundwaveHe is A Soundwave, not THE Soundwave. And a bat being called Soundwave isn't that hard to figure out.
>>11790870>We didn’t even get a Gator Megatron in Legends,>>11790872>there is a Bat that transformers into an Alligator but he is Soundwave...for some reason.We got a version of Mutant Soundwave in Legends for some reason. But Megatron just had to borrow a body. I'm seriously tempted to get that BWII Gigastorm so I can put that Megatron head on his little car guy.
>>11790867>>11790872btw, Nyx's Predacon new-character-based-on-toy counterpart is Skold, based on Snapper. Both are girls, and in the 2021 comics are just there as part of the original crews.
>>11790868I’ve talked about it before, but one of my favorite eras to research is the gap between G2 and Beast Wars because they experimented with everything. Not only did they have two different animal themed pitches for McDonald’s (simplified transformers and Auto Rollers) but they also had concepts for a possible Vehicle Auto Roller set instead, based directly on the G2 molds, which would ironically eventually be included into Beast Wars through BWII
>>11790875Oh yeah I cant keep all this shit straight. I wish we got these in Universe. First of all the original died of GPS and the blue and gold reminds me of G1 Soundwave so you could headcanon it as an alternate universe Soundwave since it was some multiverse shit anyways.
>>11790880This shit is crazy to me because when I was a kid I put Optimus'head on depthcharges body because I always liked to kitbash shit. Which I deeply regret because I ruined everything.
>>11790885Forgot picture. I'm sad we never got a blackarachnia repaint in these colors in kingdoms. We actually got the other 2 in kingdoms
>>11790876Well, I have good news for you. The nee Gigastorm not only includes a new opening horn that houses bombs (attached via pegs), turns out the scout vehicle has a new HM, they gave it a Megastorm head for both the face and HM.
>trex colored alligator megatron is actually G1 megatron who scanned a alligator for reasons
>>11790887I was going to say that Blackwidow would be the perfect name for this redeco before realizing that Hasbro can’t use that name
>>11790885There are only two characters in Beast Wars that are 100% the G1 characters they share a name with: Grimlock, and Ravage. Most others are just name reuses, and a small handful either are or aren't depending on which universe you're looking at.
>>11790890Optimus did it too
>>11790880Beast Wars colors make so much more sense if you remember G2 had purple Megatron and a fee Optimuses with a lot of black.
>>11790890Well, they couldn’t do a light grey one, it’d be too close to Albitron>>11790894Isn’t one of the Prowls also implied to be the original>has terrible Binaltech related flashbacks You know what, forget it
Missing Link Ultra MagnusHasbro/BBTS Price: $194.99 + taxShowZ Price: $169.99, no taxIs this actually a KO or what, how can they afford to undercut MSRP?
>>11790900Heck, that’s even lower than Takara's price (¥27,500 or $172.96)
>>11790870so in your mind, this was made after that
>>11790879howmst the fuck is that a girl>>11790887Three blackarachnias who turn into black spiders would be a kinda tough sell.>>11790892cant trademark it, can use itwould disney whine? hell yes. and would they win? probably. Or theyd end up buying hasbro. but CAN they use it? yes.>>11790897Albitron got canceled pretty early though dinn'e.
>>11790870We didn't get one in Legends because they expected you'd use the Galvatron HM repaint included with Convobat on a Skullcruncher body.
>>11790907>howmst the fuck is that a girlhow is she... not?not every transformer is blessed with blackarachnia's big naturals
>>11790838I will continue to not buy things at retail
>>11790838I wouldn't be surprised if this is just Amazon fuckery as this happens for awhile in prices fluctuate before restabilizing the closer they get to release.After a month or so after release the prices go back up again.So this is nothing new when it comes to Amazon. Hell I saw Scrapper on there listed at $75.The only one that jacks up prices and then later uses MSRP as a "sales price" is TFSource.
>>11790918Amazon prices fluxuate randomly so yeah it'll probably go back. Managed to get Liege Maximo there for under MSRP for 55. sometimes they're low, sometimes high, just gotta check every now and then.
>>11790876I would have bought that Mutant Soundwave retooled from TR Mindwipe in a heartbeat, especially with the Nightbeat head like that!!
>>11790838Saw this when looking up voyager 86 Shockwave going for $50 pre-order, the heck is going on with pricing there? Heck the liege Maximo o pre-ordered months ago was 59.99 but dropped down to 55 when it shipped a couple days ago
>>11790853I think "going to be" might be a strong phrase when all we have is this piece of concept artUnless there are writer interviews I don't know about
>>11790844According to the BWTF website there were ideas where Op and Meg could swap bodies between the T-Rex/Gorilla and Gator/Bat toys. Remnants of the idea is how Optimus having flying ability came from.
>>11790872Nightscream originally was suppose to be a young female transformer ala a combination of Newt from Aliens and presumably Sari since this was also written by Isenberg. It probably was changed by Didio given his complicated feelings towards child or child appeal characters.
>>11791031Optimus and Sentinel are holding hands.
>>11790918>>11790921It was strange. they actually refunded me money on Liege, because the price dropped after I had preordered him.
>>11790867what is it with the big fucking chins?
>>11791050Chinlet.
>>11791051It just looks like Tarn is trying to do sit-ups.
I'd really like to watch Hasbro try and explain how a voyager and a plastic disk is worth nearly $70
>$300.00 +tax
>>11791070forget the fists why the hell does that jet have an hourglass figure?
>>11791070What are those supposed to be?>>11791072Idk, blame G1
>>11791076>Idk, blame G1why do you say that? the jet doesn't have an hourglass figure in g1. do you know what an hourglass figure is?
>>11791070Plenty of sacrifices for the sake of combination on these guys, but we've known about that for a year already.
>>11791076>tfw a toy from the '80s looks better than a crowdfunded supposedly modern figure.
>>11791080The G1 and Haslab have the exact same alt mode, the Haslab's wings just aren’t pushed back all the way
>>11791087anon, i'm sorry, but it's time to get glasses. get someone else to drive you there.
>>11791087again, i ask: do you know what an hourglass figure is?
>>11791061>a plastic diskWith molding, Mr Squidward, with molding.On a more serious note I assume they'll vomit up some bullshit about how the disk having the names and symbols of the primes on it takes as much tooling budget as a whole deluxe.
>>11791105Why even write the names in English? It looks out of place.
>>11791122I'm just surprised they used English at all instead of their made up symbol language nobody cares about.
Conduit’s bigger than I thought it’d be. So that’s nice.
>>11791128You are literally responding to someone who cares about it, plus you seem to care about it considering how you're complaining about it.
>>11791122I assume it’s so people know where to put each weapon, but that seems kind of pointless
Damn, my Liege has erectile dysfunction.
>>11791153someone get Viagrus Prime
>>11791153I hope DNA can replace all rubber parts on him.
>>11791153He was in the pool!
>>11791052guess I should've spelled it outwhat is it with the big fucking chins for the WOMEN
I'd much rather have a regular transformers fanstream than this stupid "apology tour" dripfeed
>>11791185MCM london is this weekend
They should be doing an apology tour for mtmte/lost light’s entire existence
>>11791197What do you think the Comic Edition Fort Max, Drift, and Nautica are for?
>>11790843>is Legends the one where they show that these were options they briefly considered, but then rejected?No, they made them their own characters, clones of [spoiler]Blue Big[/spoiler] Convoy & Megatron
>>11791105Ignore the fact that a disc accessory that holds the Artifacts bump up the price for another $30, why is it that ever since the start of the year, every single wave of Transformers get a freaking price hike for each succeeding wave? I have a feeling the money we use on our toys isn't going to R&D for new Transformers, but something far more sinister, something that's a part of a major conspiracy. Weapons development for the upcoming World War III.
>>11791201Based Hasbro.
>>11791211It's just going to coke and hookers
>>11791211It’s going to Drumpf and his rich pals so they can do coke off a hookers back.
>>11791215>>11791216Yeah, it's just Trump being Trump, and his plant Cocks being Cocks. This price hike must be stopped, no matter the cost.
So Hasbro can do back of the box multilingual bios
>>11791184That's not what you communicated.You said "chins", plural. Given that the only other image from that comic that was posted was of Skold, who doesn't have a large chin, the only way to interpret your use of the plural form is that you were familiar with the designs of the other characters, many of which also have large chins. The majority of the other characters are male. Thus, your "chins" comment was not restricted to female characters.
>>11791231But, speaking of the comic designs and toys, check it out! Tarantulas and Terrorsaur's pre-Earth forms use the original toy colours!
>>11791236why do they all have the exact same proportions
>>11791197oh wow, IDW derangement syndrome is still a thing eve 8 years after it ended? Holy moly.
>>11791238They don't?
>>11791242nta but aside from a few exceptions they're all the same body type just scaled up or down
>>11791218yep, just Trump. Couldn't be Hasbro being greedy fucks. Right Hasshill?
>Release Artifact Pack>Look inside>It's one accessory
>>11791250Cocks is the CEO of Hasbro
>>11791231I was referring to this chin thing in IDW comics in general. That's supposed to be a girl too.
>>11791254A redeco of a boy.
>>11791253Oh, I stand corrected. Didn't realize Cocks was referring to a specific person.
>>11791250The Hassenfelds are all dead. If anything the family being gone is probably why shitheads like Cocks is allowed to run the company into the ground.
>>11791255yeah, you can draw them however you want.same character by a different artist
>>11791254That's literally because of the toy's headsculpt.
>Primus has a plan. Yes...but why does everyone assume it's a good one?
>>11791262If they made Megatronus the "evil" Prime, whats Liege now?
>>11791264“Ethically dubious”
>>11791250have you considered it's Trump's multiple compounding fuckups both affecting Hasbro and giving them an excuse to inflate their prices beyond what's necessary?
>>11791268Thats exactly what it is. Some of it is out of their hands, some of it is greed disguised as "sorry, we had to!". And fat chance on them ever lowering anything back to how it was when its all over.
>>11791264>>11791265Is Megatronus really the evil one? He got tricked into murdering his girl, avenged her, then spent the rest of his life trying to atone.
>>11791273Depends. Back in Dreamwave he willingly joined Unicron and fought the others for no other apparent reason than he's a dick.
>>11791275And Bayverse Fallen went bad because he liked killing tiny flesh creatures and the others didn't.
>>11791070For one figure?! Is Hasbro insane?! Thank you for the red circle, I wouldn't have been able to spot it on my own!
>>11791264Also evil.>>11791273That depends on the universe. Some Megatronuses get tricked and have a fall from grace, others are just evil from the get-go.
>>11791264It was better the old way where liege wanted more evil for some balance bullshit while the fallen just wanted everything fucking gone. Hasbro directly getting involved with the thirteen to force brand synergy completely killed the concept.
>>11791231>chins", plural. We could use more fembots with double chins, and big round bellies
>character originally named "Optimus Prime" just because it sounds cool>40 years later, inundated by a torrent of absolute non-characters all called something-or-other Prime because we need to build up the lore and make the main guy's name seem importantTiresome. The insulting part is that none of these Primes even have good alt modes. They're non-characters, AND shit Transformers. They literally only exists because of lorefags. Can we go back to designing actual good toys that are fun to play with, please?
>>11791324Didn't get Onyx, did ya? And I personally love Amalgamous, but yeah.
>>11791324The idea of the Primes being important has been around since G1 since Optimus had the Creation Matrix in him, which was later fleshed out into the Matrix of Leadership and briefly passed onto Rodimus
>>11791324Preach, AOTP has been such a drag because of those forced fags. The Fallen was at least a good transformer but still another tank decepticon leader. They also dragged Alpha Trion and Star Convoy into their shitshow but whatever.
The problem with newer thirteen, other than them all having lame names from having to force "Prime" into them, is they all only had designs in that boring prime curvy yet pointy platemail aesthetic with no established alt modes so you end up with really lame toys. Then they also fucked up Liege's head and based Nexus on an interpretation of an interpretation of an interpretation.
Missing Link Ironhide and Nemmy Star are up for order
>>11791324It's Rodimus's fault and also Furman's for opening the door introducing the 13 as well as the Prime Lineage with Prima, Sentinel and Nova.
>>11791352the thing is Aaron Archer concieved the 13 without alt modes because Amalgamous's thing is that he was the first one to gain the ability to transform.
Man, what a cool gun.>>11791275>>11791290>>11791276Got it. I was just going by the Aligned Continuity, where the Fallen was basically an Anakin Skywalker level dumbass.
>>11791354>as well as the Prime Lineage with Prima, Sentinel and Nova.So what, you prefer if Optimus was the first leader and just popped out of nowhere?
>>11791358The Titanium version of the Fallen transforms though. If it was a rule that they didn't transform, Archer didn't follow it.
>>11791358The Fallen was created by Furman and (ugh) Pat Lee. With a tank mode from the get go.
>>11791360I'd prefer it like the JG1 where anyone could be leader like Fortress, Metalhawk, Star Saber, Dai Atlas, etc
>>11791358That's retarded, he already designed vector prime before that and gave him an alt mode. Also he literally just made up amalgamous at the same time as the rest, so he could've just not done that retarded thing.
>Bitches, right?
>>11791407I find it hard to believe these guys were ever not evil
>>11791419Megatronus was deceived by Maximo, but they both fought against Unicron, so not evil in totality.
>>11791424Unicron is an existential threat, everyone should be against him
>>11791419Are you trying to tell me that Robot Lucifer and his brother Robot Satan aren't to be trusted?
>>11791368He doesn't actually transform in the comic so it's a bit moot.
>>11791437To be fair, Satan and Lucifer also started out as a good guy
>>11791437Which parts on Liege use rubber again?
>>11791437They do seem a bit untrustworthy. What did the other primes think of them?
>>11791441Coincidence?
>>11791268>tax the rich>no, not like that
>>11791444All the horns, the big spike in the middle, all the little spikes on his head, the black tendrils behind his head and the shoulder pads.
>>11791437There’s two Satans? That doesn’t make any sense!
>>11791333>>11791354as far as the original cartoon was concerned Rodimus Prime wasn't only named that because of cinematic symbolism (the true successor to Optimus). It wasn't meant to imply that Prime was a rank or anyone else had that in their name. When Ultra Magnus got the matrix he didn't change his name.
>>11791455not a lot going on in your skull, is there bud?
>>11791469>>DAMNIT, I HAVE TO RAGE MY TDS!!!
>>11791459Don’t get me started on how contradictory Satan tends to be. Satan arguably isn’t even his name since it’s just the Hebrew word for adversary/accuser since that’s what his initial job was
>>11791470yep I'm totally deranged for not wanting literally everything to cost more because of the bumbling rapist in the oval office. why don't you go change his diapers for him?
Got Liege Maximo today and I'm just looking at the tubing on the lower legs and can't help but noticed they're unpainted. Hasbro too cheap to finish the job?
>>11791474They wanted you to have some DIY fun!
>>11791457Fuck me. Not sure if I want him and I can't count on DNA since those assholes don't alwaya fix things or add pointless crap.
>>11791492DNAs crap is so annoying, I realized I can tolerate gaps more than I can tolerate their shit
>>11791221i miss when boxes just has English on them. so much wasted space on other languages
My Pedophilia Eagle (to quote certain tfw2005 members) is here! Colors are really nice in person, don't like transforming her because she is very heavily painted and I don't want it getting scuffed.
>>11791497Now they generally avoid putting anything on boxes.
>>11791046they are merely exchanging long cyberprotein strings. If you have a better way, I'd like to hear it.
>>11791050that's his style. I don't like it either, and it annoys me that it keep sinfecting future transformers stuff, like Prime.
>>11791471ehh his initial job was archangelthe idea that being ha-satan means he has a legit job is one that isn't exactly provably wrong, but also totally made up. but in fairness so is everything about him. we do not get solid info, because, say it with me, 'why are you looking for satan when you should be looking for god?'We just have to piece together what we can for discussion purposes. See Hasbro? sometimes shit is better WITHOUT intensely detailed lore.
>>11791498I meanI'm sure bald eaguys don't wait til an eagirl turns 8 before banging her. they do it around 5, when she's sexually mature. They're endangered! we need more bald eaglets. besides, it's her job to choose him. and then they do that mating flight..
>>11791512I don't mind the chins so much as he seems capable of drawing a fucking curved line. His car transformers don't have wheels, they have stop signs.
>>11791513Then why are there so many books like Lesser Key of Solomona?
>>11791516heh, yeah. he can't really draw robot joints eitherbut you have to admit, he has dynamic poses and style. I just wish, yknow, another artist would take his drawings and translate them into something better. But that would require money that western animation doesn't have, because execs embezzle it all.>>11791517Because people fucking love fanfiction. Always have.
are you feeling like it's christmas yet?
>>11791485Honestly that's probably what I'm going to do. Did it to Big Convoy cause those hands needed black on the hands. What color would you say the pipes are in Liege? Closest I can find is like a metallic ice blue
>>11791522No.
>>11791495Seriously, I really want the fusion cannon, flail and shoulder pieces, but they just shove so much crap into that kit.
>>11791522its may 19th nigga
>>11791522christmas hasn't felt like christmas since I was .. what, 13? and then briefly again at 16-19 when my dad's new family really celebrated it hardcore.
>>11791535if any of those are 5mm compatible guns, i'll buy some off of you to offset it.
>>11790180>>11790184this would be fine for a mainline release but for nearly $70 goddamn dollars he should have been an all-new mold. what about this justifies charging nearly double the price of a standard voyager???
>a disc with holes in it apparently has the same value as an entire deluxe toy
>>11790184I like this actuallyfuck no I'm not buying it
>>11791498in the funniest timeline sakamoto would find out about the tfw drama and make star eagle a shotacon
>>11791545Sadly, no. Man, I'm still mad they didn't include that giant gun Optimus used in AOE with the standalone sword/shield set, the rest of that kit has nothing I care about.
>>11791070I genuinely don't understand how this set funded, every part of it looks so fucking bad. Unicron at least made a good looking planet.
>>11791572More like Spread Eagle
I havent been following transformers in awhile can someone please tell me if that red part on Liege Maximo's chin are his lips because its drivin me crazy. And I'm kind of tempted to start buying G2 and comic guys because I started reading the comics. I get a feeling I missed out on most of them and they're overpriced exclusives now except for Jhaixus and Leige.
>>11791624>can someone please tell me if that red part on Liege Maximo's chin are his lips because its drivin me crazy.It's a mouth guard. The outline of his upper lip is just visible behind it on the figure.
>>11791616
>>11791624It's a chin strap, like Jhiaxus.
Is there a link to the actual video where Sentinel and the 3pack were shown?
>>11791517>Lesser Key of Solomona?Because people keep eating undercooked chicken.
>>11791324I don't disagree, but Transformers has been boring in general since the movies fell off a cliff a decade ago. TR has some cool stuff and I even enjoyed Siege (mostly) but I don't think the 13 are the issue with AotP. Mosf of AotP's issues are the same issues Legacy and WFC had.
Biblically accurate angel transformers when?
>>11791473not really deflecting the accusations there
>>11791512>>11791516This.>Beast Wars comic involving organic transformers>lets get someone who draws in nothing but straight lines and hard angles.
>>11791522
>>11791660do you enjoy paying more for everything?
>>11789970What was the deal with Cyberverse anyway? Seems like they couldn't decide what they wanted to do with it.>>11791653sensible_chuckle.gif
>liokaiser not being frameslop means the arm guys have ab crunchesholy fuarking based
>>11791653took me a second.>>11791656I would not say no to something with a Seraphimon type robot mode. I'm sure all those wings could fold together to make an interesting altmode...>>11791662the test should have been very simple: draw a Guyver. If you can draw Guyver, you can draw beast wars.
>>11791669A badass pose for the not very badass Hellbat
>>11791669I don't think frames is what's stopping your average deluxe from having an ab crunch.
>sentinel prime being shorter than prime and megs>70 bucksHonest question is there any point in collecting anymore?
>>11791674We're entering another dark age. Now's a good time to look back on previous lines and collect anything you missed.
>>11791674It's a gay special pack, those things always have dumber prices than retail
>>11791662Josh Burcham's style always seemed like a bad Derrick J Wyatt rip-off to me. The kind of art you'd get if you just google anything "TF Animated style".He's definitely a better colourist than penciler, that's for sure.
Genuine question:Are they called Destrongers because they're Destrons but stronger?
>>11791669Do the anime meme crotch point upward pelvic UNHIt's so retardedly funny to me
>>11791681Yeah it really comes off as trying to be TFA.
>>11791535What, you mean you don't want his control helmet and the key to Vector Sigma from those classic episodes, anon?
>>11791673I think his point is, when you put someone onto a frame's arm, you split them in half. There's almost no avoiding thathere, the hinge IS in the bot, so it can be an ab crunch
>>11791678i'm amazed 3P hasnt picked up the CHUG slackI dont wanna give china any money, but>>11791683I am almost sure it's either that, or it's kind of a sentai thing. Sentai loves words that end in -nger or -njerno hard Rs either, always AHHHH.>>11791686a poor imitation of what was already only barely good art for transformers.
>>11791664no.but I didn't back with Crazy Joe was in office and I was told to shut up about it.so take your political faggary somewhere else.
>>11791683>"I showed you my Destronger plz respond"
>>11791683>tfw no Cybertrongers
>>11791678I honestly think we've been in a quasi-Dark Age since TLK. I know that will register as willful contrarianism since a lot of people here seem to have started collecting in the last ten years, but I mean it. We've gotten some good stuff, don't get me wrong, but yikes has it been boring and often barely passable.
>>11791716Well this is going to sound even more contrarian but as a formerly unhinged collector I welcome any age where there's little of interest to me.
>>11791697I think it's just easier for 3P to compete at MP-scale and Legends-scale margins. Their production runs really aren't that big, after all.
>>11791686Boxy lines are the exact opposite of what anyone thinks of when they think of Beast Wars. I wish we got something that looked like the original box art. A painterly lineless Guyver assed mutant giger shit. But I realize that would be way too much work lol
>>11791730I disnt realize 2 different people said almost the same thing as me when I wrote that. Maybe those Skybound guys will do BW stuff one day. (I've never actually read their stuff but it looked good)
>hey buddy, I think you got the wrong door, the frame club is two blocks down
>>11791714>I'm a brand new guy babbling the same rhetoric and dragging this argument out-REEEALY
>>11791697I'd give them money if they make stuff I want to buy. It's always overly toony, or way too big, or transforms like ass (and people love to downplay this last part as if it's not the whole point of transformers)
>>11791742I give them money reluctantly when they're making what a company here SHOULD be making and is choosing not to.
Flash molding just makes it hard, gotta understand
I got SS86 thundercracker, messed with him a bit, and returned him a couple of days later. For some reason he didn't spark any joy in me when I was fiddling with him.
>>11791762Earthrise Seekers are more fun to mess with
>>11791762That's fair>>11791765That's cope or mental illness
>>11791765Lmao they suck
>>11791777>>11791767>tooners
>>11791440>so it's a bit moot.No because the fact that he had an alt mode informed his bot design. Which is why he makes an actually good toy.
>>11791437Well well well, if it isn't the blowjob brothers.
>>11791779No it's actually just a shite toy, it was still shite when it was "the most accurate chug starscream!". Siege is less toon and mogs it.
>>11791779>HMMMMMMM YOU ARE LE TOONShut up faggot
This was the last time the Earthrise Seeker mold was good
>>11791800Honestly it wasnt even that good then compared to Classics Prime and whatnot, but it was the first good g1 starscream in who knows how long
>>11791669>hmmm this haslab has better joints than a retail deluxe!Shocking.
>>11791800The funny thing is the parts that's made earthrise bad is all the things changed from classics.
>>11791809Both still have no waist, no wrist, nosecone on the back, but the ER has no landing gear
I was genuinely expecting the combined artifact form to be some kind of pillar or the harvester
>>11791817Budget ran out, please understand and buy the disc with holes.
>>11791762honestly kinda feeling the same about ss86 megatron
>awful nothing alt modeNot buying any more of these, you can make a space alt mode without it being nothing
>>11791824it's an automobileof sorts
>>11791827sentinel?he's like, a Metal Slug tank, isn't he?
>>11791831I dunno, lol
>>11791832kinda reminds me of the Hover Cargo from Zoids
>>11791834whycome beast war no have snail?
>>11791835Dead End was too late to get a reshell
>>11791835I think they were already pissed enough at how Wazzzpinator's speech slowed scenes down and ate up time, they didn't want a guy whose deal was talking comically slowly. Plus they already did that in ReBoot
>>11791730>Boxy lines are the exact opposite of what anyone thinks of when they think of Beast Wars.Ah, there it is. I couldn't quite place what it was that bothered me so much about the art, but that's definitely it - they're supposed to be all organic curves, not straight edges. Even Transmetals still managed to avoid having hard edges like that.
>>11791835>no stickbug>no hamster>no sunfish>no kiwi>no koalawtf are you doing hasbro
>>11791845>no kiwi>tfw there's no kiwi girl Beastformer whose weapon turns into a giant egg she can store internally and takes up 90% of her body mass
>>11791850that's an even worse kind of shellformer
>>11791850imagine if the kiwi and the egg were separate transformersthe eggmasters
>>11791850a very rare case of a leg where the tibia is super long and the femur and foot are shorter and roughly equal.. I bet they're not terribly fast.
>>11791838They should have killed off the waste of space when they killed off the other two dead weights.
>>11791857>No-one lovezzz Wazzpinator..
>>11791735The arm bots look really fun, it's convenient that the two i'm most interested in are arms. It's a shame liozack doesn't look that good, got any compelling photos of him?
>>11791765I had the opposite experience, but maybe that's just because I found the earthrise mold to be so soul-suckingly unfun to mess with. Anytime I tried to get that mold its silly/basic poses that I do with my other bots, it just couldnt do it. I just think of thundercracker as "earthrise, but with all the things I wanted" except maybe the overtly toon deco, I do like a few greebles
Transmetals never ever
>>11791879What really annoys me about the new one is the very obvious contrast between the nice normal amount of greeble alt mode parts and the claymation ass bot mode parts
>>11791835There is but it swaps your sex as a joke as an attack...
>>11791882that color scheme looks pretty greatbut that mold definitely needed some workthe pontoons should have been stored as the deep breast of the bird mode, and the legs of the robot mode.
>>11791882If HasTak were truly based, they’d make new toys of all the Transmetals of show characters that didn’t make it into the show
>>11791882It's extra annoying because all the most iconic parts of beast wars were while everyone was running around as transmetal.
>>11791888then transmetals of the toy-originals!!!Transmetal Razorbeast YEAH!
Its criminal we never got a Star Upper. Takara could totally do it now though but would they really use a new mold on a glup shitto?
>>11791892could they? His transformation is obviously not designed to actually work.. and the mitts in beast mode are silly. They should be in robot mode only.
>>11791892I don't think they even own him.
>>11791892Do enough Japanese fans even know who this is for Takara to justify it?>>11791900I want to say they do since he went through a similar process that Archadis, Mach Kick, and Bazooka did, and they’re all fully owned by HasTak
>>11791883Ya I agree, it doesn't really look nice. I consider it more than a sufficient trade off for all its articulation, but one with a modest amount of greebles would make the mold absolutely ideal imo.
>>11791900He actually shows up in various things, so they might. He was a fan submitted character, but his appearance for Neo was different from the one used in the BW Manga he was in, not to mention he still showed up as a cameo in recent pack in comics. For comparison, Gilthor was a magazine exclusive character, so he's trickier because he was created for the magazine. For comparison with Stat Upper, we've only seen Gilthor once after that, in a small Kreon cameo.
>>11791817I just want an actual big Display like this that isn't fucking cardboardWhen's the PotP SDCC Primal re issue?
I just remembered something. The recent Legends comics brought back the Heart of Cybertron, and Shockblast is currently using that with Armada/Energon Unicron essense to attack the G1 world. Since they keep talking about unique energy sources, the HOC is back and a Shckwave is involved, are they also going to bring back the Zel Quartz from that old Ps2 transformers game?
>>11791882Modern Transmetals would be even more abysmal than the usual update.
>>11791856>I bet they're not terribly fast.Actually, they are - they're flightless birds and they're fairly tiny, so their only means of survival against predators is to outrun them.>>11791857That was literally a joke made at the start of Season 2 - he pops out of the CR tank and shouts "Wazzpinator still alive!!!". Apparently, they WANTED to kill him off instead of Terrorsaur, but he was more popular with the fans. Terrorsaur's voice actor didn't take it very well.
>>11791908what was his other look? got pics?>>11791920internet says they're slow and not great at running.>voice actoryeah the dude was channeling Chris Latta in more ways than one.They should have let him play rampage. maybe they would have, if he hadn't lost his shit
>>11791923On the wiki, it's literally a regular guy, with boxers and horns on his head.
>>11791869Soulful
>>11791927... i'm sorry? a regular guy? What does that mean in transformers exactly.
>>11791956
>>11791888The Cyberworld bug is probably as close to a Transmetal Insecticon as we're going to get.
>>11791968Wow. you were not kidding. That is really just... a regular guy. He's maybe wearing a costume.
>>11791459Three if you count Unicron
>>11791998>He's maybe wearing a costume.Nah, it's a cartoonified version of his robot mode - it's a gag manga, and his robotic bits have been deliberately simplified for the sake of the joke/meme. You're not intended to take this seriously.
>>11792006Eh, he’s more of a Demiurge or Anti-God than Satan
>>11792009ah. Is this the same manga where Rattle is just a little chibi hamster guy?
>>11792014That was Metals
>>11792014Wrong pic
>>11792021cute, is that Big riding on transmetal airazor? what a weird mish-a-mash.
>>11792014>just a little chibi hamster guy?He's a legally distinct pikachu. Because it was the later 90s and Pokemon had just happened.
>>11791850>>tfw there's no kiwi girl Beastformer whose weapon turns into a giant egg she can store internally and takes up 90% of her body mass>>11791852>imagine if the kiwi and the egg were separate transformers>the eggmasterstried to imagine how a Kiwi+Egg transformer would look like.Beast wars Kiwi would look just like kiwi so not to make it "just a bird" drawing i did kiwi-bird in G1 style.Apterycon in robot mode has a gimmick - you can keep an egg inside him or push a thingie on his back to make the egg jump out of his chest.When the egg hits anything it "auto-transforms" transforming into a CRACKMASTER ready to attack his enemies!It's a gimmicky toy and vintage Crackmasters keep un-transforming due to faulty spring-loaded mechanisms (just like Retraxes...)
>>11792090PS:Thinking of it...i think Apterycon will be VERY chubby looking in his robot-mode due to an egg-gimmick.i guess he wil look like that upcoming chubby shuttle transformer from Armada.
>mfwfuck hasbro
>>11792181>italybroholy basedAlso pic is just 7 eur
New mix of The Touch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkCibntKkFo
>>11792187What if they got Stan Bush to cover the rest of the soundtrack?
>>11792193>Album performances are led by KNIGHTS OF UNICRON, comprised of Matt Harvey, Gus Rios and Ross Sewage. The track list sees guest appearances by iconic original SKID ROW front man, solo artist and now lead vocals for TWISTED SISTER, Sebastian Bach for a special rendition of “Nothin’s Gonna Stand in Our Way”, power metal artist Brittney Slayes (UNLEASH THE ARCHERS) for an electrified version of “The Transformers (Theme)”, along with dynamic features by Mark Osegueda (DEATH ANGEL, KERRY KING), Francesco Cavalieri (WIND ROSE, V.B.O.), and COLD SLITHER’s own Torch. Tying it all together is composer Vince DiCola as the perfect complement to this winning formula for the most honest and true collaboration for die-hard TRANSFORMERS fans!
Just noticed my Maximo is straight up missing his right pinky. Doesn't look like it broke off or anything, nothing in the box so guessing it just didn't form in the molding process. Oh well, not worth sending it back for a replacement
>>11792090kek, nice art anon
>>11792185bruh it's hard in pizzaland. Only source seems to be amazon and that's if i'm around when a figure shows up (IF it ever does)>the Megeh... it looks like a midget in a nice megatron costume wearing oversized funky rollerblades
>>11792090I love it! For some reason, I keep thinking about the kiwi beak sitting on his knees or toe of his boots, like final-form Double from X4.
>>11792181Holy fuck, I'm sorry pizza bro
>>11791333There's a big difference to be beyond the concept of the Primes being important in the media, and the toyline grinding to a halt to make 13 overpriced nobodies with shit alt modes.
>>11792226Yeah, it sure is a shame they made nothing but the 13 for the past two years and made them all leader class figures as well.
>>11792230The other toys mostly suck too. It's just that they're overpriced SOMEBODIES with shit alt modes.
>>11792217>bruh it's hard in pizzalandhuh? i never had any problemIn fact - Amazon just keeps on giving - everything and i mean it EVERYTHING sooner or later will be on a very hard discount.
>>11792235Okay, fuck off then
>>11792226I only grabbed guys that had some identity outside the whole 13 thing like The Fallen or Alpha Trion. The whole 13 bit holds no interest for me.
>>11791882you gonna do a Star Eagle out of the original basic Airazor too?
>>11792241I’m kind of the exact opposite. I collected all of them except for Nexus (I don’t like how they’re doing his gimmick) and Alpha Trion (I prefer Logos Prime in his place)
>>11792211Just headcanon that he lost it in the fight with Unicron.
>>11792226Most 13 have had major media appearances (and I don't consider their One cameos major for what it's worth), only like 4 or 5 are nobodies solely based on the Covenant.
>>11792266btw, those appearances are:Prima - literally whoVector Prime - CybertronAlpha Trion - G1, Prime, OneSolus Prime - literally whoMicronus Prime - RID15Alchemist Prime - CyberverseNexus Prime - FunPubOnyx Prime - IDW1 [spoiler](but not really)[/spoiler]Amalgamous Prime - literally whoQuintus Prime - EarthSparkLiege Maximo - G2The Fallen - Dreamwave, ROTF, RID15The Thirteenth Prime - literally who, as the concept
>>11792211That sucks, man. Too bad it wasn't the left hand, then you could at least get around it by using whatever the hell this mode is supposed to be to hold his gun.>>11792261This anon has the right idea though, it's what I usually do whenever I notice a scratch or scuff.
>>11792271Solus was in the Potp web series.
>>11792277anon you know those don't count, come on now.
>>11792271Solus' hammer was at least a feature in Prime
>>11792281Liege also gets a mention and Megatron uses his arm to bypass some ancient security bullshit.
>>11792271Actually wait, I lied, IDW1 delved into the whole Thirteen Prime thing. But also the 13 Primes were just regular dudes propped up by lies in that series, so does it really count?
>>11792287Thirteenth Prime thing*
>>11792090nice
>>11792271Fallen was also in that gay-ass prime wars trilogy.
>>11792297see >>11792279
>>11792279>>11792298Oh get over it already, most Transformers media is crap anyway.
>>11792279The Solus toy took serious visual elements and cues from the Prime Wars design though.
I prefer this design for megatronus
>>11792317I prefer his Dreamwave design, but I have always liked this design's long “hat”
>>11792318The hat is what really brings it together for me, reminds me of this asshole.
>>11791656Mirage 3pack listings when
>>11792363Unintended reply
>>11792319Never I would have never expected to see Targitzan in a Transformers thread. Hag 1/Mecha Grunty transformer when?
>Whatever are you writing in here, dear brother? Nothing untoward about me I trust. Wouldn't want future generations getting the wrong idea, would we?
>>11792317
>>11792276Doesn't really bug me much but what does bug me is how they did the shoulders. On a hand related note, does he have trouble holding the gun for anyone else? Put in in there and move it a smidgen and it just wants to pop out
>>11792363Right now
>>11792389seriously, how the fuck are they selling a voyager with a plastic disk for $68?
>>11792393Because there are people ITT who will look at that ugly cheese robot and that disc with holes through names and decide it's worth $67.99 + tax + shipping + tip.
>>11792389Thanks man, just put in my order for the three pack.
>>11792393But anon, it's not just a plastic disk!>Comes with The Conduit, a vessel that can hold the artifacts of the Thirteen Primes (each sold separately, subject to availability) to open the Well of Sparks. Accessory piece doubles as a shield.
>I'm merely pointing out that you already brew poisons of a sort. And all I'm suggesting is that you brew them a little...stronger.>>11792386Gun feels a little loose in both hands on mine, but the larger issue is the shoulder pads popping off really easily.
>>11792407Might put a little fun tac in the shoulders since they pop off so easily to see if that helps any
>>11790839This is where I've been at for around a year now, SS86 Megatron was the last one I bought at retail, other than him the only bots I've bought were the Decepticon Clones from a secondhand shop.I miss being able to swing by the toys section while grocery shopping, see some random movie-era deluxe for $12 and decide to take it home on a whim, it was fun. I can't envision dropping $30+ on a random deluxe on first sight that way, it just isn't fun to collect when it costs this much. Anons can yell "poorfag" at me all they want, maybe I just have all the transformers I need now.
>>11792418Desu this is why I've been back collecting. Sure it costs a lot more but getting one really good figure once every three months feels way better than paying 80% of that price for some shit twice a month because I wanna get everything Hasbro releases
>>11792389Sweet, got my Sentinel in.
>>11792420Maybe once all this Primes stuff is over I'll start to pick up another figure here or there, there's not a ton of character left that I want for a "complete" collection. I never did get a Sixshot, or Skylynx, or Jetfire.
>>11792389its genuinely fucked up that 3 pack is less expensive than the voyager
>>11792447Anon...
>>11792447Leader.
>>11790388Voyager Class and 67.99 USD shouldn't be in the same sentence. That is some evil shit.
>>11792456>>11792454I dont give a shit, its smaller than megatron and the 3 pack has a voyager in it
>>11792460The three pack is more expensive anon
>>11792461>2 deluxes at $35 each>and a voyager at $45factually it isnt
>>11792463>$89.99 is less than $67.99
>>11792459They used to be $20 and bigger.I'm tired, boss.
>>11792369do want>>11792383hell yeah
>>11792463That would be $115 total. The 3-pack is $90, you imbecile.
>>11792463Hasbro is still charging $28 MSRP for Deluxes.
>>11792472This, so going by "modern" prices, the pack should be $98-99, or 5 bucks more expensive by the old prices.Kind of sucks, since I only want Ironhide and Bluestreak.
>>11792477The funny part is they retooled a surprising amount of Mirage and at a glance nobody even can tell since it still looks so much like the Earthrise version.
>>11792480It's even funnier because you know they did it to make sure people wouldn't complain about his inclusion, so all 3 figured would have fixes to problems hasbro themselves introduced.
>>11792485Mirage has the shoulder cannon, Ironhide has the yellow stripe, what's Bluestreak's fix?
>>11792046ehhh he has a few pikachu elements, but the round body and ears to me go somewhere else.
>>11792090I don't know how well this could really work or how accurate to a kiwi it is, but god dammit it's fun and I like your style.
>>11792185What in god's name>>11792226look at it this wayeverything being made right now will suck, so we're saving the characters you care about for later
>>11792486Distribution and the clear pieces. There's a very slight misalignment with the pin that connects the clear parts to the body, this causes issues for the vehicle mode since you have to slightly force it to sit flush so everything connects properly, ans modding it is annoying since you either need to shave the hard plastic bits or the clear parts and both are in awkward areas. Really hoping the new one gets the alignment right.
>>11792491You’re always saying you’re saving the characters I care about for later
>>11792398When you put it like that it's absolutely crazy that they're throwing in Sentinel as a bonus.
The problem with the 13 toys are that other than fallen, vector and onyx they look like lame dorks instead of wise/powerful demigods. I really need to pick up a TR Alpha Trion instead of the accountant/scout master they released for AotP.
>>11792525HEY THIRTEEN,
>>11792318Transformers are not wearing enough hats!
>>11792386looks to me like the pinky is there, just not the tip, or that the tip is bent backwards.if it's just the tip, then he's like James Doohan. and if it's the whole finger, then he's like Walter Jones. Either way, cool guys.>>11792407man, details like that just do not work to me when they're sculpted onto such a boxy shape.. the inner thighs are okay, but the belly?
>>11792551I live when Transformers designs incorporate hats in some way. Saberback is one of my favorite BW designs for that exact reason
>>11792558at least we regularly get cool helmets.
>>11790190Extra/unposted pics
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>>11792553>>11792553It's a James Doohan deal with the pinky, adds a bit of character to him. Added the fun tac to the shoulders and it seems to be helping keep them in place. Would glue but want to avoid that in the possibility of someone making some solid plastic pieces to replace the rubber ones
>>11792236i missed pic rel and i doubt i'll see it again any soon
>>11792592boy that entire torso is just resting on a twig.
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>>11792592>>11792597I'd like to have him, but $68 is egregious even by hasbro standards. Maybe when he inevitably gets clearanced.
>>11792606I think those are supposed to be his hips. He just has a high pants line and slightly too large articulation clearance gaps
>>11792612If you get it lined up you can do nonsense like this:
>>11792617Full strobe (this should be too fast to cause seizures)
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>>11792619Breathing
>>11792620Heartbeat (81 BPMI’ll probably try to do a glitch effect, but the timing will take more work to make that look good.
>>11792525They do look incredibly awkward. Primas mismatched head and body. Alchemist Primes cuckshed hipster design and manlet proportions. Solus Primes pancake face and odd too small for her torso area tits. Nexus primes entire background extra existence. Quintus would be fine if he had a real alt mode and I get the the intent with amalgamous but he just comes off looking like the most generic mech you could imagine. They all really lack the feeling of gravitas they need to pull the idea off.
>>11792597Don't need him but I'll admit he's pretty cool.
I preordered Skywarp. Figured since I also PO’s Cyclones. It’ll be my first seeker since classes Starscream and Ramjet in 2006.
>>11792592>>11792597Man. I wanted a Megatron Origin Sentinel Prime so bad for years! And they chose bloody Tarn to retool him from.Sentinel was supposed to be chunky all around, he was a big thick imposing guy. Tarn, meanwhile, was always very top-heavy; like a big letter T.Seeing thusly Sentinel with the long, skinny legs just feels so damn wrong... aw, man...
>>11792603It'll be reissued by the end of this year or early next year. Same thing happened with Blaster
>>11792383>YE GUILTY
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>>11792553looking at the figure, I wonder if he would've benefited from a bigger chest area, I notice when you remove the shoulder pads and horn backpack, his upper body looks out of scale with his chunky boots.
>>11792619>>11792620>>11792621YOU'RE FREAKING ME OUT!!!!!!!
Got Astrotrain today. Holy shit what a mess.
>>11792614that's what I mean. the gap is .. it should not be visible. you're supposed to pretend this robot is all connected inside. That's what hip skirts are for.>>11792621what if a rotating wipe?
>>11792695yeahhh that's it. just.. torso too straight
>>11792701Everyone could tell that just by looking at it and you went and spent money on it.
>>11792713technically anon didn't say he bought it, but that he got it.
oh fuck
>>11792724If I slept any harder i'd be in a coma
>>11792724LETS FUCKING GOI've been waiting for this since PotP.
>>11792724This is what we've all been waiting for. As someone who's had the CHUG and TR Thunderwing and Black Shadow figures, I can't wait for this.
>>11792724Praying he's good because I just had a horrible vision of him as an AOTP Silverbolt retool. A really lazy AOTP Silverbolt retool
Age of the Primes made some sense as a name, but Hasbro actively seems to despise evolution. Is it meant to be ironic, like the Apology Tour thing?
>>11792724Odds on the first modern pretender update to actually be a pretender?
>>11792724Yesssssssss…hope it has some details from the Prime game.
>>11792735Why do you think it's a commander?>>11792736Fuck off faggot. If there's any fictional depiction they want to give details from, hopefully it's Marvel, maybe they can give him a Matrix.
>>11792737>If there's any fictional depiction they want to give details fromI want Stormbringer Thunderwing
>>11792724>>11792735Watch it be IDW
Hasbro still hasn't managed to fit the G2 Motormaster anywhere so if anyone's expecting a Black Shadow from Thunderwing, hope New Legends gets to it.
>>11792737>Why do you think it's a commander?Hasbro just released a $25 plastic circle they can fuck up anything that should be obvious
>>11792724THUNDERCLASH WHEN
>>11792724LET’S ACTUALLY FUCKING GO!!!!!!!!!!
>>11792737>>11792742Just use stuff from all three.
>>11792742It's probably not, IDW Thunderwing would be a titan.
>>11792724>>11792730[spoiler]nexus prime's combiner frame[/spoiler]
>>11792755Evan actually said IDW Thunderwing would be a Titan.
>>11792748>why doesn't muh shitty uk character get representation?You euros should have made a cartoon for Thunderclash. Look at how much people are willing to shell out for Victory Saber, Deathsaurus and Liokaiser because they had a show to advertise them.
>>11792724nice
>>11792758RIP to everyone still hoping for a Nexus Prime frame.
>>11792769Thunderclash is a cool toy, he deserves a redo.>>11792748But the problem is that at the moment all they have for Thunderclash is an alternate deco for Commander Motormaster. First off, he deserves something new, not just that, second off, they haven't even been able to fit in G2 Motormaster, and third off, even if they did put out Thunderclash from Motormaster, they'd then have to put out limb bots for his slop frame.
>>11792744Hopefully New Legends does Blue Bacchus and maybe even Vroom somehow. Black Shadow has way too many updates compared to those other two.
>>11792758I miiiight not be as opposed to him being a retool/pretool of a combiner frame since the frames are closer to being mega pretenders than they are actual combiners. but it would still suck.
>>11792776NO REFUNDS
>>11792744Undoubtably, and I’m sure NL will get around to humiliating legacy tarn as payback for what he did to him in idw, like what they did with the primes
He's not going to be Prime or IDW.
Autobots don't want you to see this.
>>11792737>Why do you think it's a commander?That doesn't mean much. I'm not sure that's ever meant less than it does now, even.
The actual Thunderwing toy's blasters were just kind of generic >>11792735 but in Marvel he consistently used a 4-barrel BFG. I hope the new one has that weapon.
So what, are we getting two Commanders in Generations and a Titan in Studio Series again?
>>11792742That would be fucking sweet in leader class scale
>>117928152027's big figures are - Selects Titan Energon Tidal Wave- Studio Series Titan Bayverse dinobot (probably Strafe)- Age of Evolution Commander Thunderwing- Studio Series Commander Rodimus Prime (new mold)
>>11792823They're already doing a year without a combiner? Huh.
>>117928262027's combiner is Nexus
>>11792830Oh, right. Okay, a year without a combiner frame.
>>11792801The designers say a lot of bullshit
>>11792724Does anyone have the feeling this is just going to be a silverbolt retool?
>>11792842now you are just grasping at straws all just to get angry over nothing
>>11792621I don't like this. No, sir, I do not.
>>11792823>Studio Series Commander Rodimus PrimeI wonder how they'll fuck this one up.
>>11792823>- Studio Series Commander Rodimus Prime (new mold)Rodimus doesnt need a new mold, if anything i am extremely curious as of why he didnt got reiussed (though its likely he shelfwarmed hard)
>>11792848Huh?I just think they might make him a mega pretender with the frame
>>11792861Because Takara wants to do something new with him, this is straight from Evan.
I want commander class super fire convoy
I want redo of Sixshot, as a commander.
I want a redo of Wheelie, as a commander.
>>11792621If I was enough of a masochist/bored enough to make, save, and order 144 different frames, I could make a clock with this. Can’t think of a way to distinguish between the hour and the minute hands though.
>>11792899>It’s time to spin, THE. WHEEL. OF. ARTIFACTS!!!
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>>11792899wait. where does that Vector Prime sword come from?
>>11792907>>11792899>Mario kart item box sound get sound
>>11792907>>11792709>rotary wipe Was one of the first things I tried actually.
new>>11792917>>11792917>>11792917
>>11792910Presumably with an as of yet unannounced Galaxy-Force colored Vector prime Repaint/Remold.
>>11792863Mainline Commanders class retools are hardly a thing, though I guess g1 combiners have already done it. Still, this is Age of Evo's most expensive toy next year, and theyre already redoing rodimus, so I wouldnt be concerned about it reheating a combiner frame's nachos
>>11792737Dude's duking it out with powermaster optimus, I hope he's a big boy, maybe armada optimus sized
>>11791369They never really took over the same leader position as Optimus and later Rodimus had. They were moreso leaders of their own corp, similar to how the vast majority of Decepticon leaders in JG1 never really occupied the slot that Megatron/Galvatron sat on. They were in a nutshell Warlords who managed to gather and form a Decepticon Cell of their own and pursue their own evil ambitions when the loss of their leader Megatron/Galvatron caused a power vacuum in the faction .
>>11792597This would be a great $25 purchase
