HasLab Kinokaiser has started shipping! Have you received yours yet?Also, Thunderwing is next year's Commander class figure! Are you glad Nexus Prime got cucked once again?Previous:>>11789955
This is a long shot. Does anybody know in which of Thew's Transformers review he says something is "a bit Naked Lunch, isn't it?"? I recently watched that movie and want to finally get the reference. I think it was one of the older reviews.
>>11792899>>11792919I expected you'd do it a cheapo way, with an actual yknow 'radar sweep' motion. But good on you putting in the work.
>>11792917Mine will ship out just in time for the big manufacturing fuck up to be revealed.
>>11792917>Are you glad Nexus Prime got cucked once again?Surely nobody expected him to be a commander class? Really it's Defensor who got robbed
>>11792938They really could've just did a mini combiner and everyone would've been happy
>>11792940I wouldve bought it if it actually had heatwave instead
>>11792938>Really it's Defensor who got robbedDoes anyone actually care about Autobot combiners?
>>11792930so people have to buy YET ANOTHER figure?So glad I decided not to collect these guys
>>11792942Only in how they serve as foil to the combaticons
How big do you think he'll be? In the comics he looks to be a similar height to powermaster optimus.
>>11792889If they did picrel as a modern leader class I'd have to pick him up, wouldnt step on the haslabs toes either
>>11792942I only like computron
>>11792956Magmatron probably
>>11792956I really gotta keep going with the Marvel UK stuff. This guy seems fucking badass.
>>11792976This is normal Marvel US.
>>11792940>they could have made it $80 dogshit Oh I would have been so so happy!
>>11792956Since he isn't a nu-titan hopefully he's at least got the mass of jetfire, though since he'll probably be the most fuckered up amalgamation of shit nobody wants he'll be Optimus/Megatron sized in his shell and his brute mode will be large leader sized.
>>11792979It's mostly 80's hokey marvel writing with the occasional memorable Furman dialog. The overarching story is average, and there are a lot of strange liberties taken where lore and characterizations change issue to issue.Lots of uncreative ultra violence and character death, and the attempt to shoehorn every toy possible into somewhere results in a monstrous number of extremely under developed characters.As inconsistent as early idw is, Stormbringer Thunderwing is the definitive version to me. Stormbringer itself is also a pretty solid transformers comic on its own and works great as a standalone story.
>>11792982It would mog the nexus we got by being a combiner instead of one guy. Who thought that was a good idea.
>>11792988did you mean to respond to someone else
Fossilizers, weaponizers, rocksNew gimmick line when
>>11792995Techno Organics that posses other figures ala The Thing. With touches of space barnacles and Quintesson designs.Also id love to see the Robosmasher, Vok, a stand alone Transmutate figure, and The Dweller in this horror line.
Since that was a Haslab joint, what are the QCs people are finding on their copies?
Quake's like 20 USDIs he good or still dogshit
>>11792988Stormbringer Thunderwing is a cool design, but he's more of a mindless monster than an actual character in most of that story. In the old Marvel comics, there was at least something interesting in the idea that he was a Decepticon with a strong enough affinity for the matrix that he could properly wield its power for doing more than just creating new robots. Because there's actual characterization there, for that reason alone I personally consider Marvel Thunderwing to be the definitive version of the character. But like I said, Strormbringer Thunderwing had a great design, so I'd be in favor of seeing elements of that incorporated into his new commander class toy, kinda like they did with his old deluxe figure from 15 years ago. The biggest question will be whether they'll make full use of the larger size class to include his inner robot, or if they'll give him the ability to power up into his final form from Stormbringer. Either (or both) sounds fun to me.
Finally got Liege Maximo so my 13 Primes are complete.
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>>11793020The tank is laughable bullshit, but I honestly like the robot mode. Same with Skullgrin.
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dude just make a gallery somewhere, no one wants you to spam the threads with your endless stream of photos and customslike, literally, what the fuck, dude
>>11793028>>11793033Can the turret at least rotate, are the targetmasters even worth having
>>11793070I forget, I only put him in tank mode once and thought 'yeah, never doing this again'. I'll take some pics in both modes when I get home though. I barely did anything with him after taking him out of the box and it'll be a good excuse to mess around with him.
Thankfully I don't think I've ever engaged with any fiction that gave a fuck about the thirteen primes, so I have no interest in collecting them and no fomo
>was hoping they change the skirts on liokaiser from the one piece to two piece>Still the same after all these yearsYou know what. I think I finally find it within myself to be ok with this.The waist movement is not connected to the abdomen-pevlic but the lower crotch. Because of the center piece, they can't really cut the skirt without the center piece looking weird in different positions. And they can't really remove the center part by having it be part of the moving waist or it would hit the skirts on the side and lock the waist in. As to why they have to put the articulation point in lower crotch? It is probably because if they did not do that, Garuga wouldn't able to form the abdomenStill. Could be better but I am starting to warm up to it.
>>11793083That just means when you eventually do get exposed you run the risk of regretting not getting into them earlier and now suffer late tax.
>>11793083I never have either, I just bought them because they look like cool toys. Though in retrospect, I probably could have been good with Star Convoy, Megatronus and Liege. Unfortunately, I suffer from the affliction that is completionism.
>>11793083that's flawed logicsomeone who has never seen any fiction of them can still be interested in themsome who has seen fiction of them can be disinterested in them
>>11793090yeah. I would have been into onyx prime if they'd just done a better job with him.
>>11793074Well I hope it doesn't suck ass, looking forward to it, thank you
>>11793025Honestly, just have the inner robot look like og Thunderwing while the shell is Stormbringer Thunderwing.
>>11792942I actually have a soft spot for Superion as he was the first combiner I got as a little kid.
>>11792917Good god that's ugly
Brother34 Image postsYou're %70 of them. Come on now
>>11793069>>11793108Anon just got a little excited about his new toy. It happens. Friendly bit of advice that I only recently put into practice myself though: collating images is a nice way to incorporate multiple shots while conserving the thread image count. That way everyone gets more of a chance to post their own stuff.
>>11793107Looks how Lio should to me, it could be worse. What the fuck were they smoking when they designed these proportions.
>>11793069NTA, but i'd rather have someone posting pics of actual toys (you know, what this toy board is about) than another 100 posts of schizos whining about tfwiki and culture war bullshit.
>>11793131or we could just do neither. you don't have to choose between spam or bait.
>>11793114I’ve never understood the audience for the God Fire Convoy Haslab. It’s not to scale with the original figure, so you can’t use it as a replacement, it’s not to scale with Generations, so you can’t fit it in with the rest of your collection, and it’s not to scale with Masterpiece, so you can’t display it with the other high end toys. Where is this guy supposed to go?
>>11792861I for one think Kingdom Rodimus is kind of crap, but I'm not confident the new one will be better so much as just different. Hasbro is hard to predict, though. It could end up worse. I never would have imagined that the new Laser Optimus would be so awful, for example.
>>11793134you're too focused on scale
>>11793134Nah he's a big figure and one of the rare cases of an upscale in these modern times where bots get smaller and more expensive for what you get. While God Fire Convoy is expensive as fuck at least he is fuckheug and I at least appreciate him for that in spite of the problems the toy suffers. I just wish the other Convoy's similarly don't get downscaled too much. I can already see them trying to downscale Grand Convoy to fit in the Commander budget even though in Super Mode he should be as big as Ultra Magnus and that worries me.
>>11793132Why are you so offended by someone posting pictures of toys on the /toy image board?
>>11793134"It's the only Fire Convoy makeover we're gonna get" was a big part of it, I imagine, which is why the inital reveal suckerpunched me. Perspective is a funny thing.
>>11793134Just like Studio Magnus, they decided to make HUGE because "dude the car carrier has to carry cars". Even if every transformer collector is a robot mode only autist.
>>11793134I like God Fire Convoy, I pussed out on the encore due to QC, and I don't care about scale as long as things are close enough in my mental mapping. God Magnus and the combination not being a brick is a decent bonus.
New Legends new chapter has:>Noisemaze and Doubleface teaming up as Team Sideways>Nemesis Star Convoy tearing Cybertron in half in visual homage to IDW's Unicron story>Nexus Prime using Silverbolt's frame in jet mode>G1 Unicron's spark revived by Micron Legend/Superlink's Unicron's power fighting Nemesis Star Convoy created through G1 Optimus Prime's corpse and Micron/Superlink Unicron's spark guided by Team Shockwave (Unicron's mind)>ends with tease that next chapter is titled Liege Maximo's AmbitionIt's impressive that Sakamoto is able to work so much fan wank into anything remotely coherent.>>11793134Have you considered it's just a cool toy?
>>11792942I guarantee you more people know Superion, Defensor and Computron than know Thunderwing.
>>11793211Sakamoto is one of the GOATs.
>>11793135>new Laser OptimusIt's impressive that they managed to fuck it so hard. Even the RTS deluxe is more ambitious and impressive than any update we've gotten in WFC/Legacy/AOTP.
star convoy should have been smaller and a commander classwhy is there not a single commander in the 13 anyways
>>11793188>dude the car carrier has to carry carsthat's supposed to be a bad thing...?>>11793233I love that little RTS laser prime, all I want is a version of it that's upscaled and has more range in his hips and knees. I remember Maketoys did something like that a looong time ago
>>11792982>>$200+ dogshit we got now is way bettershills gonna shill
>>11793211>Nemesis Leo Prime is Unicronhuh?
>>11793239Star Convoy is the perfect size, he's meant to be a base for micro masters.
>>11793276you do remember that they stopped doing micromasters right? and the fact that they locked one of the most popular micromaster teams behind a haslab pay to play haslab dlc is egregious.
>>11793239They should have waited on Onslaught and made Nexus a Commander like >>11792940. That way they could also do Gen Selects versions of Bruticus Maximus and Superion Maximus>>11793239>>11793279A Commander scale Star Convoy already exists with the Gen Selects toy, if they’re going to make another one they might as well make one that has similar gimmicks to the old one
>>11793112>conserving the thread image count.Only retards care about this. I'd rather have a thread filled with bad pictures than bad discussion, which is what we usually have.
>>11793279>you do remember that they stopped doing micromasters right?That doesn't mean every single micromaster has disappeared from people's collections. Star Convoy still being compatible with older gimmicks like micromasters and titanmasters is good, same as keeping the ramp connections. All baseformers should be like that.
>>11793276I don't mind them making Star Convoy larger to fit more Micromasters, but upscaling Hot Rod too is a crime and totally diminishes your point.
I decided to take the plunge and get a modern combiner since I really liked Bruticus in the Wfc game I went for him. Brawl arrived and I really like him even as a solo figure, got blast off coming tomorrow so i just need to keep a eye out for vortex at a good price while I wait for the other two to come out in the UK.
>>11793265Dark Amber Leo Prime was created a few years ago in JP from instilling Angolmois Energy in Lio Convoy's corpse.
>>11793139>most toy posting is good, so all toy posting is goodcome on, anon, you can be smarter than that.
The real reason Thunderwing is a Commander is because he's frameslop, they're doing Thunder Mayhem. He's an Onslaught retool.
>>11793279It's almost hilarious. What was considered the cheap entry point for children and new fans, of the franchise for over 20 years has been gutted entirely from retail in favor of scout sized deluxes and $300 boxsets. Someone really needs to put these market research people out of a job
>>11793360cursed
>>11793360Why wouldn’t they just make it Bludgeon instead?
>>11793067til all are cum
>>11793370They just put out two Bludgeons.
I still don’t understand how retards are able to defend frame combiners
I hope they're fucking done with the 13 primes now, I never want to see most of them ever again.
>they didnt retool the shit out of 86 magnus for a new nova primeOh well, legacy nova prime is rad at least
>>11793211I know you explained what's going on but what the FUCK is going on, unicron on unicron action is hilarious
>>11793399they still need the rest of the guys to make Nexus work and Vector Prime 2.0
>>11793333The combaticons are by far best solo combiner fragments that they've released so far, helps that none of them are simple retools. I like the effort they put into bruticus' legs, but unfortunately they didnt even try for the arm combination.
>>11793404God dammit I am sick of these ancient losers, I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MYTHIC PAST OF CYBERTRON MOVE THE FUCK ON
>>11793384>no frame=weak kneesSome reviews for liokaiser have come out. While people are praising the thing, it is very clear the knees are compromised because the articulation point is with the bots so the rachets are not abel to be big enough (strong enough) to handle either the weight of the calf nor the upper body. Devastator does not have this issue with the knee point being part of the extra crotch section. It also help devastator has those really thick thighs where as liokaiser is more vintage japanese robot design of thinner thighs/thick calfs. Having a frame system solve the issue
>>11793399>>11793408Oh, but I want a Voyager Logos Prime and toys of the Guiding Hand
>>11793408It will never end, anon.
Anon was asking about Quake earlier, so I took a few pics. I don't really know anything about the character besides that he's an asshole who loves violence, becomes Bludgeon's bitchboy once he assumes leadership of the Decepticons in the Marvel comics. I think Bumblebee also killed him in IDW2. I'll take some pictures of the tank mode later, just to remind everyone what a truly shit alt looks like. Also, couldn't remember at the time, but his turret does rotate.>>11793311You know what? That's completely fair, especially considering how quickly these threads cycle compared to other generals.
Crossovers I'd like to see
>>11793426We need a Robocop redeco for Armada Red Alert.
>>11793410>[combiner that does not have a frame] does not have this issue So frames are still worthless, got it
>>11793384Well, at least you can actually play with them
>>11793445Yeah no one was able to play with combiners before they invented frames, that's why the scramble city crew have been historically unpopular and SS86 Devastator a laughing stock.
>>11792942jetfire convoy?
>>11793444>>11793458samefag
>>11793112he looks like I could put him in my snes
>>11793481You're so right, only one person dislikes frames, this is known.
>>11793020Joke alt mode, boring bot mode, entirely painted statue target masters and they got the fucking colors wrong.
So long as we're reminiscing about the 13 literal whos.... I've known about Solus Prime since 2012 or whenever they got the forge in TF Prime. I was so disappointed to find out over a decade later that he wasn't like the ancient chad meme but a deluxe class purple woman
>>11793134>it’s not to scale with MasterpieceIt actually is though.
>>11793135That's what happens when you cheap out and try to reuse legs on a mold you know you could repaint at least 5 times. Everything wrong with the base bot came from the plastic color layout and transformation limitations caused by having to work around those stupid fucking legs.
>>11793233I just want this guy upscaled and with the chest windows on a rotating panel so you can switch between real chest windows or grey and silver details for scourge.
>>11793020Nah. Get the Titans Return one. He's way cooler, as long as you're not triggered by forced gimmicks, and the fact that he's really just Hardhead.
>>11793276>he's meant to be a base for micro masters.He's literally so oversized that they had to upscale his micromaster partner and trailer to be core sized.
Why do some people get so angry over partsforming? Its like ANY level of partsforming triggers a storm of autistic rage.
>>11793518Wdym, they could've reused the legs and then not needlessly overcomplicated the upper body
You can tell star convoy was just a commander they upsized in CAD to justify their minititan concept because of how stupid the ramp connectors look on him.
>>11793536No, they had to overcomplicate the torso specifically to make room to suck in the waist/thighs for the truck mode proportions since the reused legs don't collapse like the originals.
>>11793518The reused legs were awful, but so were the new parts, such as the miserable shoulders. Legacy Laser Prime managed to fail on every single level.
>>11793532>oversizedThat just means you can fit more micromasters stupid
>>11793542The new parts are horrible BECAUSE they're working around the reused parts.
>>11793540The legs dont collapse on the RTS either, they had a better way to do that
>The reason Energon Shockblast/Laserwave is called Shockwave in the comic, is because he's apparently revived with aspects of Shockfleet (Mirage), explaining the spaceship mode. He fucking hates it since he hated Tidal Wave/Shockwave.This makes the name fuck up when pre-orders went up, even funnier.
>>11793444You forget (or "forget") that Devastator functionally has a seventh member in Long Haul's trailer (which you probably also complained about). You need either a frame or extra pieces to make a combiner that's sturdy and posable, 5 or 6 bots held together with just CW-style ports and hope isn't going to cut it.
THE ONE PIEEECESorry the AllsparkFinally have the whole gangI still don't know who to use for a 13thStar Convoy is cool but he is WAY too huge and out of place
>>11793550Btw, if you're wondering what they mean by incorporating aspects of Tidal Wave, they're basing that off of his original alt mode all the way back in Armada, where he looked like a spaceship with Shockwave'a cannon up front.
>>11793553That's fucking cope lmao
>>11793058Scrolling and thinking "huh, 13 seems a lot more than it used to be"
>>11793549RTS had a good amount of his lower legs length disappear underneath the truck along with much larger wheels that help mask any proportion issues
>>11793561Nice counter-argument anon, very intelligent.
>>11793554Armada Prime? He's still big but not huge and does the base + super optimus thing as well.
>>11793532>He's literally so oversized that they had to upscale his micromaster partner and trailer to be core sized.The fuck are you talking about? It's well known that they made Hot Rod too big, he can't even stand inside the torso room now. Micromasters and titanmasters work way better.
>>11793553>You forget that Devastator doesn’t use a frameSo frames are still worthless, got it
>>11793550Did he get the gay as well?
>>11793591>hurr durrRead the whole sentence next time faggot.
>>11793554John Hasbro: Sentinel Prime is the true 13th Prime. You all know it's true.
>>11793566He's just baiting, Devastator has 2 members to fill the torso while the quint combiners dont, and yet 86 still has a hip and thigh frame to sidestep the issues there. Nobody is actually that unintelligent.
>>11792956My guess (assuming he’ll be two bots) is that the smaller toy will be a small Voyager, i.e. Leo Prime, while the larger toy will be around SS86 Magnus in height, give or take a half inch
>>11793069Your on 4chan anon. Its most likely that fucking retard from tfw that spams all the threads there with his shitty Custom work. What are you expecting from a brown
>>11793384Better question is why you're so buttblasted over frames but you're fine with combiner thigh pieces that barely even do anything else?
>>11793619Isn't this just further proof hasbro have fuck all clue about designs these days and are happy to give customers low quality shitty products at a retarded high asking priceThey literally give you half arsed slop and yet you get retards thanking hasbro for having to pay triple now for a voyager or several times more because of Haslab and the lie they peddle about stores not stocking them
>>11793546The legs didn't cause the shoulders to be like that. While the legs were bad, they weren't the sole source of all of Laser Prime's problems. There can be more than one thing wrong with a figure.
Do you ever feel like we just talk about the same thing over and over but nothing ever gets settled
>>11793628Welcome to the world of the Transformers, anon
>>11793616>How dare he post pictures of transformer toys on a /toy/ board. We need to talk more about tfwiki and walky and retroblasting.Modern /toy/ in a nutshell.
>>11793628Tbh I kinda lost love for transformers :( like I dunno the new stuff isn’t for me and it doesn’t sparkle joy anymore
>>11793638Spamming his autism here isn't.....wait...sorry I forgot what place this is
>>11793639I honestly advise looking into other transforming robot toylines if Transformers aren't tickling your fancy right now.
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>>11793640that has to be the same guy because who defends someone elses image spam? It would be sadder if it wasnt
>>11793639Takara get forced into the closet.Hasbro raise prices.Hasbro do poor quality designs.Scam people with selects and haslab.Takara even with no budget these days still has to fix hasbros half assed figures such as down syndrome lio convoy.All hasbro do these days is make low quality figures without any heart or soul. If the company goes bankrupt due to loss in sales they really only have themselves to blame. No one wants 1 million Bumblebee toys from the Michael bay movies
People always downplay takara's involvement and complicity
>>11793628Give me your face.
>>11793628How do you expect anything to get "settled"
>>11793315>That doesn't mean every single micromaster has disappeared from people's collectionsThe most recent micromasters and star convoy are about 4 years apart from each other. It doesn't make sense to make a playset that isn't compatible with the running line because if you're just getting into collecting or picking up>>11793625The sole cause of Laser Prime's problems would be the designer. It still baffles me how they took a very simple, iconic design and fucked it up to such an insane degree. How is the figure less posable and less photogenic than not only it's previous iterations, but the original from 30 years ago? I'm glad they didn't make that E-Hobby Magnus because I'm sick to death of that mold.
>>11793679No ankles!
>>11793333Mine fell off my desk the other day. Head went flying off and I haven't found it yet. Feels bad, man.
First time with the new seeker mold, it kinda sucks? Shockwave still having greebles despite being supposed toon release. >>11793639Everything is so half-assed, you are better going with 3rd party stuff these days for transformers.
>>11793676only one way
>>11793628That's it! I'm switching to He-Man
>>11793594No idea, but he somehow got smarter and is apparently doing all this since Doubleface and Noizemaze said he could use Unicronnto revive his brother, turns out they were lying. It also brings up an old theory that Doubleface/Sideways is actually a puppet for Unicron, but at least this comic seems to firmly establish the ML version as his own character... for now.
>>11793597>the whole sentence confirms Devastator doesn’t have a frameSo frames are still worthless, got it>>11793605>maybe if I pretend this thing that blatantly isn’t a frame is a frame I can pretend frame combiners aren’t dogshit
>>11793705Really it's the seekers that are wrong for not having enough detailing. SS86 has had em since Kup and Hot Rod.
>>11793625>Need to make room for the waist to collapse>Make the torso out of panels that compact tightly>No more room to put the double hinge+rotation assembly of the original in the now compressed panel torso>Have to have the arms fold back instead put shoulders on simpler floating assembly.
>>11793733The bad legs didn't cause all that.
>>11793679Star Convoy having his classic base mode and being compatible with other baseformers and small figures is a good thing. Not everything needs to cater to people who started collecting yesterday and don't even know who the fuck Star Convoy is. Also the toy is still fun even without titanmasters or micromasters, but if you own some of these it's better. I don't see the problem.
>>11793736Exactly. The main problem of that toy is that they tried to reinvent the wheel for absolutely no reason. Just keeping the same simple transformation of the original but with added articulation would have been enough.
>>11793736>Needing to make room for the bad legs didn't make it so there was less room for other stuff.
>>11793719>It also brings up an old theory that Doubleface/Sideways is actually a puppet for UnicronWasnt that just in the show? He merges into Unicron and then dies when Unicron dies
>>11793655>No one wants 1 million Bumblebee toys from the Michael bay moviesAt least kids bought those. Every single one of those old Bumblebees is a million times better than the shit we got for studio series.What will really kill this franchise is the fact that shit like this is what they expect kids to buy>>11793737I'm not talking about what or who should and shouldn't be catered to, I'm just going by the logic that most toylines usually operate by. Rodimus comes with Star Convoy so that is fine and it's still a good figure but like I said, It gives the toyline a sense of unified synergy. Something all the toylines had until Legacy.For example with Titans Return.You have the smallest class, Titan Masters, they can be integrated into the play features of every subsequent class in the toyline. Individual titan masters came with a little figure that can turn into a drone or weapon for bigger figures. Legends could have them as drivers in the canopy, Deluxes, Voyagers and Leaders could use them as pilots and as heads or seated in their guns. Titans usually had nearly all of the above with lots of play features for those smaller classes. It creates a sort of synergy, buying the cheapest figure makes you want to buy the more expensive larger figure and so forth and so on and it felt rewarding. They've worked this way since at least the Unicron Trilogy. As it is now, more and more it just feels like they've fully embraced Generations as filler for some fat retard's shelf as a form of admission to their own lack of creativity. It's nice that Star Convoy's base mode is compatible with the old micromasters but why couldn't they just release new ones in the current line if they're going to do that.
>>11793761I mean it's a movie toy of Optimus Prime, kids will buy hose no matter how shit
>>11793655It's funny, all those bayverse bees and not a single one satisfies me so far.
>>11793729Is it really too much to ask for a little consistency?
>>11793763Yeah, that's why hasbro's been reporting losses on Transformers for the last 5-10 years. This shit may have worked in 2007 but it doesn't work with kids that didn't go to the theaters and don't have an incentive to care about transformers
>>11793665People really downplay that the way to have Takara quality is to spend way more money in basic toys when they already complain about rising costs. Make your only option spending $40+ for a deluxe and let’s see how many people are grateful for extra paintapps.
>>11793533Because it’s an aspect that ruins the puzzle feeling a lot of us like. Trying to get point A to B
>>11793775>hasbro's been reporting losses on Transformers for the last 5-10 yearsSource or you made it up
>>11793782But puzzles are the ultimate partsformers
>>11793533It seems that alot if not most people like when a weapon is intergrated into alt mode. Plenty of BW, CR, UT toys do that.
>>11792917What are some good Transformers model kits? I know there's that Arcee and Windblade with the nice booties but that's about it.
>>11793761What the fuck are you on about?
>>11793757Due to the dub doing it's own thing, they make it sound like Unicron and Sideways are one and the same (the sub made it seem like it was partially true, he was his own guy and Unicron was possesing him). Only on Cybertron and a toy bio did it imply otherwise (but the shows nature makes it hard to say they're the same character anyway.So yeah, his vary nature made it hard to say if he was ever an individual, but the new Legends fiction has him working separately from Unicron and even wishing to control him, establishing him as his own guy.
>>11793775to be fair toys have to compete with ipads now
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>>11793812I figured it was like a jesus thing where he's simultaneously his own thing and unicron
>>11793814Gigatron is compatible with that? or is there tape and rubber bands at play.
>>11793814>gigatron handglorious
When is the next dang Timelines set going to be available?I want my dumbass Bumblebee and boar Megatron
>>11793836I assume at SDCC.
>>11793745Not all the bad things about that mold are a sole result of "needing to make room for the bad legs." You're starting to sound obsessed.
>>11793813why didn't toys have to compete with TV
>>11793888You don’t play with a TV, you watch it. It’s the same reason why toy sales started to slump after video games started getting popular
>>11793888You don't need your hands to watch TV, so little Tucker can set up all his action figures to watch with him.
>>117938881. who says they didn't?2. did tv exist before or after transformers?
>>11793895Before?
>>11793899correct. now consider how far into the era of television we were before transformers came out, where it was already determined that tv shows can be used to sell toys.
>>11793848I gave very logical reasoning why a bad design decision would lead to other design decisions being made to work around it. Your the one just covering your eyes and going nuh-uh while adding nothing to the conversation.
>>11793769Time to go 3rd party anon
Trying to imagine how much better things would be if cocks gave takara the majority of transformers in exchange for another yacht
>>11793906I've tried once. If you've got any recs for dotm bee I'm all ears.
>>11793888The TV wasn't on all the time, cartoons weren't on all the time, it wasn't portable, it wasn't in every room in the house, you couldn't take it outside, it allowed you to play with toys while watching, and 90% of children's programming was toy commercials anyway.
>>11793908I honestly think the best course of action for Hasbro would be selling Power Rangers to Bandai. They paid a ton for it, do nothing to advertise it, and basically only make retro figures that kids aren’t going to buy
>>11793418He seems a clean enough bot, just that the altmode looked extremely unimpressive. I know there's tank destroyers with non-rotating turrets, but that, the targetmasters looking rather dinky, and that the tank mode looks like things just sandwiched on top of a tank chassis... The robot looks pretty damn impressive though, and I'm glad he can at least fire while in robot mode.https://files.catbox.moe/yqrpc1.jpg>actually rotatesIt's all coming back to me now>>11793493Yeah...>>11793528I don't know if I can still get him so easily
>>11793919Would bandai even pay a good amount for it now?
>>11793936Given Super Sentai seemingly died without it, I’d say so
Reliving my dreams if being a Botcon toy recolorer dont mind me
New Cryotek when?
>>11793947Interesting colors.
>>11793069Fuck you I enjoyed the collection.
>>11793952It's just paradron medic colors because Arcee was a Spider in Beast Wars for some reason.
>>11793908You'd get better figures but much less of them and probably at a far higher price on average.
>>11793814This image rocks.
>>11793943But bandai didnt even want it in 2017, much less now that sentais already dead. Hasbro basically paid $22 million for a useless franchise, mighty morphin crowd can only be pandered to so much
>>11793943Sentai's decline predates PR being sold to Bandai. The reason it got cancelled were because toy sales were shit due to the toys also being shit and also being too expensive for the average Japanese household.Here's one article in Japanese explaining the problem in regards to the price of the toys:https://web.archive.org/web/20260227162626/https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/85720dd627c44d4ab71ee88c995a16afb01028ae>>Bandai conducts an annual survey regarding Christmas gifts for children (titled the "Christmas Survey"). According to their findings, the average budget for 2025 is 8,378 yen. While this represents a 240-yen increase over the previous year, it falls far short of the 16,720 yen price tag for the "DX Boonboomgerー Robo: Explosive 4 Big Robot Set" This creates a price disparity of nearly two-to-one.Why pay for an overly expensive Super Sentai brick when there's so much more competition like Shinkalion and Jobraver domestically in Japan with regards to giant robot toys?And note that hosing down the customers for all their money strategy is being repeated here stateside by Hasbro with TFs.
>>11793954They only had one female mold to use, so she became a spider by default.
>>11793919Nah, they have it made, paying Playmates to make toys for them (which actually do sell).
>>11793961>DX Boonboomgerー Robo: Explosive 4 Big Robot Setthat cant be the ac->it is the ACTUAL NAMEmy fucking sides
>>11793965how tf they pronounce that? buunubuumugaa? seems like kind of a mouthful
>>11793968M and N make a similar sound when next to a consonant in Japanese so it’d be more accurate to say Buumbuumgaa
>>11793961The average budget for christmas is only $50? Am I reading that right?
>>11793971ah, boom boom gahsounds like a chant
>>11793903All your logical reasoning consists of is repeatedly saying, "This thing (which is NOT responsible for every problem) is magically responsible for every problem!" If you want to convince people you aren't being obsessively autistic about this, you're gonna need a much more compelling argument. The burden of proof is on you, and repeating the same nonsensical claim over and over again doesn't prove anything.
>>11793972I’m guessing it’s because Christmas isn’t a national holiday in Japan, but then it seems like a weird metric to judge toy sales by if that’s the case
>>11793705>3rd partyThird-party has its merits but it's also a tasteless clownshow with all precaution and prudence thrown to the wind.
>>11793777>Takara quality"Takara quality" is overstated anyway, and has been for a long time.
Special grade cursed object
>>11793984Buy brands that aren't Transformers
>>11793985I love that the wiki just straight up links to a video of someone crushing this toy to pieces http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcjAUN5Ssj8>>11793986This is a Transformers thread, anon, we’re going to focus on Takara's quality in terms of Transformers
>>11793954Maybe, but they make an interesting spider.
>>11793985One of the last Randys in one piece
I have assembled Liokaiser.The chest armors for the arms and upper torso sort of just get slapped on the back in combined mode, clearly an afterthought. The arms aren't noticeable from the front. But the Lion Chest Armor? He sort of takes center position on the top of the back. So he's sort of peaking over the looming menace of Liokaiser. It's honestly just such a stupid design oversight, and somehow a little adorable. Just a cute little bat looking over things.
>>11794001
>>11793961I love how the solution is to rebrand the shit as Gavan and still make the toys as shitty as ever.
>>11794003Aw that is kinda cute. Isn’t he the most dangerous combiner though?
>>11794003>Breast Animal Bat is watching you masturbate
>>11794003Yes. Exactly. Just a lil guy. "Hello!"I don't really do all the cutesy internet meme talk, but look at that little bastard. How can you not?
>>11793893no they didn't. they both peaked at the same time. They went up together and went down together.>>11793894do people hold their ipads in their hands the entire time they watch a show? no stands or anything?
>>11793913
>>11794007Liokaiser is intelligent, a martial artist, armed with a bunch of weapons, and can turn invisible. So considering Predaking is an enormous jobber, yes Liokaiser probably is the strongest G1 combiner.
>>11794014Quiet, zoomer. Adults are talking.
Liokaiser is rolling out and I'm not hearing about any QC issues. So far at least.Soooo..... what's the next Haslab? Almost more than getting a thing, I'm really curious about what it will be. They ruled out going back to Victory a third time, right? So no Road Caeser. At least not now.
>>11794019You'd think it'd be something from the 86 movie for the anniversary.
>>11794020.... Rails?
>>11794020Is there anything left? Spaceships?
>>11794021Oh damn, maybe. Or the Anibeast.>>11794022Maybe the Quintesson ship I guess?
>>11794022Mostly combiners and larger characters.
>>11793994>16 years agoDang. Imagine how much more brittle the plastic would be nowadays lol
>>11794023Honestly, if we go by ships, they might as well do the one's from Armada, they had some bitching ships.
>>11793980>Waist has to go somewhere>Other stuff that was there before have to go somewhere else.You're the type of nigga who can't rotate an apple in his head.
>>11793069>crying about someone posting Transformers images on a Transformers image board at 3 in the morning>>11793401...why the fuck would Nova Prime be necessary from 86 Magnus? If anything we need a smaller Nova that isn't stuck with an inaccurate inner robot that shits up the main toy.
>>11793971more accurately, japan USED to have a nasal 'm' but they dropped it in the 60s. Now it only exists as "n but you say it funny before certain consonants"
>>11794004Gavan is pretty cool at least>>11793961wait why do they cost more when theyre shitty now>>11794018what the fuck would a gen Z know about tv?yes it was on all the time. yes cartoons were on all the time. yes it was in every room, at least two rooms, which is good enough, and the living room connected to the other rooms. and no, toy commercials were heavily restricted because of retards and moms.
Do people not know gen z started 97? CR/UT/Animated/Prime fags entered the franchise with those shows on TV
>>11794036Don't worry. This isn't about any actual people, but men who are half-straw, half-boogey.
>>11794019The main ones I can see are>Big Powered>Primus>Gigatron>Rail Racer?One other idea I saw that I doubt they’d ever do is a 1/12 Optimus Prime so you can scale him with 6" G.I. Joes and Marvel Legends
>>11794041Stretch Goal of 1:12 scale Spike and Sparkplug.
>>11794041>>Big PoweredI mean I have the Legends one and he's pretty sweet, but if there's a better one, there's a better one.>PrimusGod I would love it, but I would want it to scale with Unicron 1 to 1. And Unicron barely passed. I can't see Primus being an easy sell. Maybe if there was a Titan Unicron a HasLab Primus could work.>GigatronValid idea>Rail RacerYeah. Yeah I can see it. The original toy is very good. Just scaling it up a bit can really beef up the articulation.
>>11794049>Maybe if there was a Titan UnicronI wish...
>>11794058>>11794049Oh I forgot the problem with Gigatron. He's just so... small. He's about the size of Fire Convoy, right? Not much to warrant a full Haslab. Does he have any notable accessories or chief lieutenants he could come with?Or fuck it, pack him with Splendid Convoy. I'd buy her.
>>11794064>Does he have any notable accessories or chief lieutenants he could come with?The three Predacons, but thats pushing it.
>>11794064If I recall correctly, in the actual show his robot mode is the size of Fire Convoy/Optimus Prime's super robot mode, whilst the OG toy is the same size as Fire Convoy's standard robot mode. Anime Gigatron is fuckin' hueg. Though then again>Transformers>Scale
>>11794069The combining three? Yeah that'd be a lot.Maybe a Haslab of both sets of three piece combiners, with alt parts for Jr? If Liokaiser is seven bots, six doesn't seem that insane.Never mind alt parts for Jr. He could be a stretch goal.
>>11794071No, the goofballs. Gas Skunk, Slapper, and Dark Scream.
>>11794070You're right that scale is fucked to shit with this franchise, but you're right to point out the anime. They're in general going with anime scale, and if they want that, a Haslab would be a good place for him.
>>11794073The Optimus isn’t in anime scale though
>>11793986I haven't handled their new Diaclone stuff but a lot of it just looks like expensive clusterfuckery to me. It doesn't have the same appeal the old Diaclone or Micro Change stuff does to me whatsoever. I'm willing to believe that part for part it's higher quality than what they've done with Transformers for the last decade, but I don't care about it.
>>11794082The Diaclone reboot toys are expensive as fuck and they're aimed at adults more than trying to attract new fans. Part of it is higher quality, part is their market estimates saying it pays better to sell fewer toys to fans at a massively inflated margin than trying to compete on price. The new line is focused more on the modular aspects than transformation and that's a step away from the original Diaclone idea.
has there been any info on whether 86 Rodimus is gonna be a repaint/retool of the kingdom figure or an all new mold?
$300 dollar
>>11793814Radical
>>11794108
>>11794107Takara said they wanna redo him, so probably new.
>>11794108sighwhy couldnt we just have more oil
>>11794019My dream is animated Omega Supreme
I wonder if we'll ever get a new Razorbeast.
>>11794148I hope he's at least a deluxe. Or if shrinkflation goes slightly further, a voyager. I want him to be somewhere in between Cheetor and Tigatron's size, is my point. Which, I mean, the average random boar you see is the size of a dog, but they can GET massive.
>>11794041Don't forget Sky Garry and Grandus.
>>11792917New Transformers pinball machine revealedTrailer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J9JGgUiRlcDetails:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLx93Iiy5ywgameplay footage recorded at Media Dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBSfYX244Pcbetter gameplay footage coming soon
Finally picked up this guy since they fucking refuse to make Cryotek. An old credit card and some tinfoil really brightens up that chest jewel and the mouth bothers me less in person, in most lighting I can't even tell it's supposed to be messed up. The downward slant on the port in the dragon mouth is really annoying though. Also did anyone ever figure out why the fuck the dragon chest can't tab into the slot on his back?
>>11794166>foil behind the jeweloooooh. wait, credit card? Oh, to glue in place over the foil? course now it doesn't match his domepiece.
might try that with some silver paint or a chrome marker..
>>11794164That is one thicc Prime. Looks like a fun board!
>>11794164Who the fuck buys a whole ass pinball machine?Where do you put it? How often do you play it? Is it just for display? Why the fuck did they spend money making this instead of good Transformers?
>>11794175>>11794176Starting price $6,999 USD
>>11794176you put it in your arcade, and you charge a quarter a play. Then you keep the quarters at the end, unless it's the kind where you can win free games, but even then very few let you -profit- from your free games. That's how pinball began, to dodge gambling laws, but that aint how it currently am.
>>11794166>Also did anyone ever figure out why the fuck the dragon chest can't tab into the slot on his back?No and that's what pisses me off about him most honestly. I do like what you did with the chest jewel though, very vibrant.
>>11794180That makes sense in 1986.I haven't seen a living arcade in 25 years.
>>11794176>Why the fuck did they spend money making this instead of good Transformers?Don't be dense, pumpkin. They just licensed out the Transformers brand to a pinball machine manufacturer. They didn't spend any money on this.
>>11794182I'm not saying it's gonna work, I'm just saying that's "where you put it."Nobody has spittoons anymore, but 'where they go' is on the floor in the parlor. 'Course nobody has a parlor anymore.
>>11794167Not even glue, I just cut the card down to a little square that can nestle into the chest then wrapped the foil around it to keep it stiff to avoid crinkling. I got the size just right so it stay in place on its own but It'd be kept in place in both modes by the bot and dragon arms anyways.
>>11794189oooh the power of friction.
>>11794166>>11794181It's the middle support strut at the base of the chest plate. It bumps into the back of the gold panel of the head assembly. It was probably a last minute reinforcement.
>>11793761Wtf is with those Ellen page arms??>>11793775Hasjew will just keep pushing out bad products because idiots keep buying them even though there of poor quality.We now have hollow legs/crotches/arms and chests on pretty much all figures. We get recycled cardboard boxes with no plastic windows or holders anymore.Their made in a cheap factory with low quality paints and cheap plastic.Please pay 100 bucks for ss grimlock which you'll then need to spend another 80 on for a kit to actually make the figure look right.Wtf is the point? You could just spend 60-80 on the oversized ko mp grimlock and have a proper version of the characterYou literally have to fix every character hasbro puts out with a kit
>>11794019Solid gold Randy
>>11794196Pic of the culprits
>>11793775Gonna need a source on that. From what i remember, Transformers and Magic were the main profitable franchises under Hasbro, the ones that were losses were Marvel and Star Wars.
>>11794019Omega Prime but they fixed it this time. Also $60 more expensive.
>>11794212You do realize the company would be doing WELL if your insinuations as to their ownership were true, right?Also the no windows thing they went back on. Though the rest of the criticisms are so correct they are obvious, and pointless to even say.
>>11794019No Victory? Damn, was hoping for a Landcross, since a Haslab is probably the only way they could do the Multiforce decently. Well here are my hopes and wants:- God Ginrai- Violenjiger- Railracer- RID Landfill
>>11794212I know this is a bait post but yoi could at least keep the complaints up to date
>>11794234I feel like the Multiforce could work in mainline. They’re basically smaller versions of the Duocons essentially and I thought their updates were pretty good
>>11794235How is it bait?
>>11794029>Waist has to go somewhere>ONLY possible solution is to screw up the shoulders. You're the type of person who can't imagine how you would've felt if you didn't have breakfast this morning.
>>11794108This is unironically entirely and complete unacceptableThe sheer retards that bought this shit are a wonder
>>11794266>ONLY possible solution is to screw up the shoulders.No but it's the one they chose. Not like you've put up any alternatives.
>>11794235What's wrong about it exactly?I haven't bothered to buy hasbro garbage in over 2 years
>>11794108I don't get it? That little piece is $300? There aren't red circles this time so I don't even know where to look.
Alright, guys, I'm just gonna say it. Megatron's been checked out for awhile. Barely does shit even on the days he bothers to come in. I think it's time to discuss a change in management.
>Still alive, Autobot?>Still struggling?>Do you not understand?>It's over.>FINISHED!
>>11794322reckon anon is saying this piece from a 300 dollar toy should not be so waffledand I mean, obviously it should be, it's silly to make SOLID plastic toys, as super7 figured out. Unnecessarily heavy. What you're supposed to do is make things waffled but ALSO sandwich two pieces together, for each piece. It's not that bad, it uses up a tiny bit more plastic and massively improves how it looks, plus it allows for a great number of types of joints to be used
>>11794326long live the shogun!
>>11794164Aw, no Victor Caroli narration. Gregg Berger's doing an adequate impression, but still stands out a bit.
>>11794289>No but it's the one they chose. Not like you've put up any alternatives.So there you go! It isn't just because the legs suck, but it's also because they made other bad choices that they didn't have to! But you want some other alternatives? Fine, here we go. First up, change where the arms are stored in truck mode. Instead of having them come out the back of the cab, the two most obvious options are either on the sides of the cab, or inside the nose of the truck. The sides would make the vehicle mode considerably wider (not necessarily a bad thing considering how long the truck already feels), but would still have the downside of the shoulders still needing to connect to the torso's sides. Ideally, the shoulders should connect to the underside of the truck nose pylons in robot mode, giving Optimus broader shoulders for a more heroic silhouette. Storing the arms inside the nose could accomplish this. You'd need to sacrifice the gimmick of having the front of his pylons swing open to reveal missiles, but that's a small price to pay. With those missiles gone, the interior of the truck's entire nose becomes available real estate for his arms. With the arms stored inside there, the shoulders can now connect at the base of the pylons. Then if you change the hinges on the truck nose so they don't only swing out to the sides, but also forward and backward, you'd have a full range of motion too. Since a ball-and-socket joint probably wouldn't be strong enough to support the weight of the arms with friction alone (and because they might be too finicky during the transformation), this would require extra parts for two separate hinges, but ditching the missiles earlier could already free up the parts count. So there's an alternative off the top of my head showing that bad legs didn't make the bad shoulders inevitable.
>Yes, yes the Matrix. We're all suitably impressed, Prima, but can we please return to the matter at hand?
>>11794237I'm the opposite. The Duocons convinced me that they can't do Multiforce in the mainline. Battletrap was meh. Flywheels was better but his individual vehicles didn't transform. To do Multiforce in the mainline, you'd need to do 6 deluxes or voyagers (since legends and core class are dead), each of those deluxes or voyagers would need to transform into individual robot and vehicle modes, combine with the other members either as a top half or bottom half and also be able to combine together into a poseable combiner. So essentially each member will need to have at least 5 modes. I just can't see Hasbro doing that with current mainline budgets without a shit ton of cutting corners.
>>11794326Where'd you get the sheath for his sword? Did you 3D print it yourself, or was that from an upgrade kit?
>>11794358Oh, my mistake. The gameplay footage shows they got the Honest Trailers guy for some stuff. Between that, the new lines sounding so obviously aged, and the random woman's voice for some generic pinball score quotes, the VA work is a bit of a miss for me.>whole mode dedicated to beating up StarscreamWorth it>the "we have Stan Bush at home" song that plays during the Optimus/Megatron battle on the damPress release seems to say it's Knights of Unicron, who is also putting out that cover album of the movie's soundtrack soon.
>>117943753D printed upgrade kit that I got on eBay, here's a shot of him all decked out in everything. Obviously still not accurate to his look in the G1 comics, but I'm still pretty happy with how it all looks together.
>>11794164>>11794175I wonder if he was meant to have a transformation gimmick but they couldn't make it viable. That he looks like this and the actual table's role for him is just "shoot him in the shins" is kind of weird.
>>11794383I'm hearing word that he was meant to transform but they couldn't get the mechanism to work consistentlyFor the best I guess, wouldn't want to centerpiece of you $8000 purchase to be stuck between modes because it took too many ball bearings to the dome
>>11794386On a similar note, I'm almost surprised they kept it Season 1 and 2 focused and shoved the movie stuff to a bonus mode. I get it, the nostalgic iconography but at the same time the movie is increasingly like The Big One Thing people even know about G1 due to its accessibility.
>>11794108what am I looking at?
>>11794436Killbisons cannon
>>11794032>yes it was on all the time. yes cartoons were on all the time. yes it was in every room, at least two rooms, which is good enough, and the living room connected to the other rooms. and no, toy commercials were heavily restricted because of retards and moms.And this is the early 1980s we're talking about?
>>11794164>SternReady for disappointment.
>Hear me out: what if we went back in time and killed Unicron before he had a chance to gain physical form? I know it may sound a bit like murdering a protoform, but it really isn't. In fact, I'd be more than happy to demonstrate difference if you need me to.
>>11794196>>11794218You're correct. I cut some plastic from the center strut back when I got him and the panel pegs perfectly fine since then. The added reinforcement isn't needed at all.
>>11794383In some retarded world maybe Hasbro cracked down on them since no one but them is allowed to make transforming transformers. Maybe it's this world
>The creation of new life through science you say?>Fascinating.>You know, I'm something of a scientist myself.
What better way to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the movie than a retooled de-greebled Haslab Unicron. The next one is 100% this you know it to be true
>>11794343I still think they should do a weeb story of Bludgeon and Banzaitron fighting Drift and Windblade, everybody gets katanas and naruto runs all over the place.
>>11794529For who? I'm certainly not spending half a grand on a big toy.
>>11793951who is that supposed to be?
Stronger together!
>>11794496This would fall more under something like that automated RC Optimus Jada made a while back or Robosen.
>>11794182There’s still some out there, and still pinball tables being made that are increasingly elaborate. You so t see them in bumfuck nowhere but the few arcades paying for new pinball machines go for gimmicky ones aimed at an older market.
>>11794529Actually it's HER HasLab time
>>11792956Tbf in late marvel comics everyone is a similar height to powermaster optimus. It's the only real flaw.
>>11794339He really just went at that bot, like some kind of vast predatory bird, or something.
>>11794680Thunderwing is still much bigger than the other Decepticon toys around that time, though ironically he’s still shorter than base form PM Prime
>>11794019BroadsideEnergon Optimus - if it's going to be another Autobot leader like Fire Convoy and Victory SaberPrimusRail Racer - if we are continuing the RID love hopefully thought the QC for RID characters gets better
>>11794529>trying to get people to double dip on haslab unicron, likely at a higher price, when the first one barely got fundedwould be hilarious to see it fail
>>11794529Source?
>>11794760there is no source, anon is just making up an idea.
>>11794529Haslab Unicron is horrendously dogshit tho So even if they smoothed it to SS86 Style i'd still pass People actually defended this lmao
>>11794776BUT ANON ITS BIG
>>11794776>People actually defended this lmaothey infamously didn't, anon
>>11794474nah, 90s.the premise at hand was "howcome it works differently now than in 2007" and the answer was "it has to compete with ipads now"
>>11794535i'd enjoy iti'm tempted to get some of those samurai 3P beast guys
I've always found that Liokaiser's spear nunchuck weapon is just so dumb, and I'm not sure it's a case of "so dumb it loops back into awesome" either.
>>11794835>huge spear>huge spear that deals electric energy>huge spear that can be used as nunchuck Anon it's amazing
>>11794835You don't like fun
>>11794492Would that even be within Vector Prime's power to do? Going by the comics (yes, I'm ignoring Primacon), Unicron predates the known universe - he actually ATE the previous one, and the current universe (and all of its iterations across the multiverse) spun off from the exploding remains of that precursor universe.Vector Prime can mess with time in the current universe/multiverse, but Unicron's birth predates the concept of time as we know it, and his origin point is outside of the universe - presumably out of VP's reach. Even if Vector Prime COULD turn back time even in the predecessor universe and COULD reach and kill Unicron in his earlier stage of development, it would cause a paradox - killing Unicron then means he doesn't eat that universe, which means the current universe and all instances of it is never born, which means Primus never exists, which means Vector Prime never exists, which means no one goes back in time to kill Unicron...see where this is going?
Never buying a haslab until they can prove they can make something worth the premium, frankly all the transformer ones have been unacceptable
>>11794873Ok
>>11794868I’ve always assumed that Vector Prime is somewhat immune to the changes in the timeline surrounding him, similar to Guinan in TNG. So he’d be aware of the changes, but wouldn’t be personally affected by them for the most part. However, his vast knowledge tells him to not kill Unicron early because of all the good things that result indirectly from Unicron existing
>>11794873At the end of the day haslab is still chug. It was never premium regardless of price. It's a glorified titan class.
>>11794873I liked Victory Saber and Deathsaurus
>>11794792You are new and trollingFuck off There was CONSTANT defense of that turd here and people going full FOMO shill
>>11794873You might not like it but they made the best star saber and deathsaurus figuresi wish a 3p made a bootleg of those
>>11794873>frankly all the transformer ones have been unacceptableEnvious Star Wars retard detected.
>>11794873Deathsaurus was awesome.
>>11794835Shu Rei Fuan is the only guy I know who can pull that shit off.
>>11794166>>11794189Still waiting on Cryotek.
>>11794873I don't even buy at retail price anymore.
So no combiner in 2027? Just Nexus' limbs?
>>11794893VS had issues with mismolded parts and chrome scratching, but if you didn’t get hit with that there's still ridiculous waffle cannons and hollow thighs on Leo
>>11794911Yeah you're right actually, I had forgotten he existed, double checked and I couldn't find a single thing to hate on
>>11794882>There was CONSTANT defense of that turd hereBecause tons of people were shitting on it, dumdum. Otherwise there would be no need to defend it.
>>11794921Has the 2nd commander been found or is it just thunderwing?
>>11794949Nothing yet, but my guess is PM OP given the name of the toyline and the fact that we haven’t seen any other Optimus toys announced for AOEv yet
>>11794939He did have issues, it's just that they weren't all as catastrophic as Victory Saber or Omega Prime:-Tiger Breast having the horns chromed was a poor choice, since you're forced to touch them frequently and they fall off too easily, unless you fix them in place with something.-The beast mode back having that gap they really tried to hide in promo shots.-Weapons all used unique connections that only worked with DS, so weapon swapping is difficult.-I seem to remember the wings not using any ratchets and they're pretty big, so I can see this being an issue in the future.-I'd have to check this later, but I also remember the arms also lacking ratchets in some areas.I'll have to mess around with it these days to remember any other issues.
>>11794929VS had way more problems:-Blade was made of clear plastic, but the real problem was the connection point being a thin "l" shaped. It's pretty tight on some copies and some people did break them. Why they didn't just make the blade out of sturdier plastic and use a simple hatch mechanism to fix it in place, is unknown.-The Star Saber's knees destroying themselves and becoming friction joints-Saber having the knee flap be too tight, causing them to stress out after transforming them.And many more.
>>11794383He transforms. It still works. They just disable it. Should be able to turn it back on with a hack.
>>11794918he's coming with aoe. trust the plan.
>>11794939I love little animal pals and I wish they didnt often come with guys i'm not interested inI mean he's KINDA cool.. but..
>>11794981>I love little animal pals and I wish they didnt often come with guys i'm not interested inTake the minicon pill
>>11794703Around that time, sure, but how'd he compare to other large G1 Decepticon toys?
>>11794949>>11794954The two commanders for 2027 are Gens Selects Energon Tidal Wave and SS Bayverse Dinobot, the two Commanders are AoE Thunderwing and SS Rodimus Prime (new mold).
Shit like pic related existing (or even Tiny Turbo Chargers to an extent, and I LIKE some of those) really baffle me. Like, why dump the time and resources into putting out pure landfill filler that probably only exist to keep trademarks, when they could put out fun little dudes that could double as partners for bigger Transformers? Just do what they did with the TTC guys but with a 5mm handle somewhere and I guarantee they'd sell like hotcakes. But what do I know, right?
>>11794999The ROI on them is probably huge, stores order 1 million sloppers
>>11794792Especially when Studio Cell released shortly after.
>>11795023Haslab is the real deal unlike 3rd party
>>11795026Never understood this mentality. You'd rather drop twice as much on a worse product just because Hasbro made it?
they really gotta bring back a size class below deluxe again because why TF are the minibots the same price as normal deluxes. they're really good for the most part but i still feel scammed paying nearly 30 dollars for Windcharger or whoever
>>11795026and? i dont give a shit
>>11795023I didn't want that, I wanted the HasLab
>>11795046And you got it, anon.
>>11795049Yep.
>>11794986i would but every time I find out about one, it disappears.also their robot modes are usually pretty bad. which I get, but maybe turn it into something else then. a gun might be okay. I liked the RotB ones
>>11794999businesses have decided that, when it comes to political content, the minority is to be catered to, but when it comes to creativity, integrity, anything like that, the majority (who will eat whatever garbage is put in front of them) is to be catered to.
>>11794949>>11794954Studio series and AOTP/AOE basically have to juggle the amount of titans and commanders they get between both lines. This year AOTP had two commanders because they took studio series' commander slot, and this was due to 86 taking AOTP's titan slot. Next year, studio series get a commander AND titan, while AOE gets a singular commander.
>>11795072It's all coming together.
>>11795072>>11795075Gen Selects WHEN?
>>11795072>>11795075Looks like we found Hasbro’s first Transformers MTO
>>11792917Being totally honest Liokaiser looks so fucking crisp that it bums me out a little that I didn't order it despite knowing nothing about the character. The plastic and colors just look so good
>>11795072THALIDOMIGHT! Transform and wobble frantically!
>>11795087And what if I told you he could also wiggle his little ears?
>>11795093Fuck that rocks. Are those embossed Decepticon symbols too?
>>11795093adorable
>>11795046Studio Cell absolutely smokes the entire shit out of the Hasblow scam
>do someone else who needs commander, OR do another rodimus?
>>11795103do the customerup him bum
>>11795072$300 for this?!
>>11795102And I didn't want it so I didn't buy it.
>>11795107You're a colossal faggot and a retard so makes sense
>>11795104Hasbro's chief policy
>>11795072>These are my Big Boy pants
>>11795112what the FUCK is a combiner?
>>11795123Multiple toys become one bigger toy, sometimes extra parts are used to do so.
>>11795127Same people who think ultra magnus is a combiner
>Dearest Solus, I have a little commission for you. >A special project, one I'd only trust in the hands of one as skilled and, may I add, lovely as yours. >You'd be handsomely compensated with Energon of course, amongst...other things, if you so desire.>>11794868It seems like something that would be a terrible idea for many reasons, it's just what occurred to me as the most irresponsible/cartoonishly evil thing Liege could suggest to do with the power.
>>11794868>Unicron predates the known universe - he actually ATE the previous oneFat fuck
>>11795089Flipper baby, flipper baby!
>>11795201Primus my dude you can't just make one female among the first thirteen beings of a race. She's gonna give her brothers weird thoughts!
>>11795229>each of the 13 represent unique gimmick cybertronians!>Micromasters!>Combiners!>Girls!>Edgelords?>and others too!
>>11795229>Primus as he watches Megatronus and Solus get together
>>11795072You're just being a smartass!
>>11795246His the covenant lore is so dumb.
>>11795201Do you ever think Unicron looks a Liege and goes, “Did I make that one? Surely I made that one, he looks and acts just like me.”
>>11794535They really could do a movie themed that way, throw in the shinkansen teamTie it in with the face of nijika, just have preceptors brain be stored in an autobot symbol years ago japan found it, and then some robot maker puts it in his new flagship ai robot "nijika" and she immediately becomes the smartest thing in the world.Autobots and decepticons realize it's actually "the lost brain unit of cybertrons greatest mind" and they rush to capture it.Perfect movieThey could even do diaclone references
>>11795317In the OG lore, liege was trying to BECOME unicron essentially.Explains the look
>>11795353>hmm, robot devil looks like a sweet gig maybe I can be that when I grow up
>>11795353>>11795363not really unicron, just ascending to god-realm
>>11794366Primus damned slut. Just pulling up their top and flashing their tit jewelry at the slight excuse.
>If you utter so much as a single syllable of what you've seen today to the others, then let me assure you: neither this pathetic shell, nor the wrath of Onyx Prime shall deter me from crushing you beneath my heel like the scurrying little insect you are.>>11795317It's the horns. In the aligned continuity, all the Primes were tainted by Unicron's darkness to some degree after his defeat, so you could argue he played a part in creating the Liege who would go on to do everything he's remembered for. Though as I'm thinking about it, I sort of like the idea that he was unaffected by it because he was always a piece of shit.>>11795353This sounds interesting though, I haven't quite made it to Liege in my reading of the Marvel comics. I'm sure it goes exactly the way he wants it to and everything works out!>>11795416When you've got it, flaunt it.
BROSNew Glib Shitto lore coming through!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7TB7dMDgG8REMEMBER HUFFER?HUFFER IS MY FAVORITE GLUB SHITTO AND HE'S COMING BACK!!
>>11794999Not gonna lie i'm buying that Cheetor. it looks just as a cute chiby weird japanese gacha-toy cheetah and it's connected to Beast Wars AND is made of 2 different toys.it's great as a gimmicky weird thing to have around.
>>11795454looks like a Tom and Jerry gag where Tom ate a box
>>11795452You gotta go back to Rddit man
>>11794164>$6000 + >$12000 for vip editionwh-who buys crap like that... rich cryptobros?I can understand $1000 so some 40y/o millenial would buy that.but surely not fucking $6000+I live in italy and here you can buy a HOUSE (a house) for $10 000 and it's not some shithole it's one of those houses with history that oligachs would buy as their summer resort.And that house is built somewhere in a beautiful town that looks like one of those JRPG-game towns from early 00s PS2 era of videogames.whatthefuck
>>11795455Now i want a whole BW-cast made like that.imagine the gag-Megatron...or dinobot
>>11795464>no claws0/10 total shit>real wire whiskersokay okay I was too harsh.
>>11795466it's just a random google photobut yeah... japanese gacha toy creators thinking about new funny toys every day on their competitive marketif i was one of them i would create a whole mini-line of animals based on classic cartoon gags. (just with a bit of toning down i guess because those gags might look "offensive" outside of circles who rememeber cartoon logic)
>>11795468You snooze you lose, anon
>>11795468cutehm do japanese people not cross one foot over the other while in this pose? because the artist misinterpreted the legs..
>>11794164https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXmFo0Z5tScofficial gameplay
>>11795424>, I haven't quite made it to Liege in my reading of the Marvel comicsThey don't go over the why in the comicsFurman wrote unofficial fiction after that explained it, since he didn't think he'd ever get to
Are your stores still stocking transformers? Mine literally have given up.
>>11795485I will never dig that "We couldn't get the original theme song have a re-recording" version Hasbro uses for EVERYTHING now. TMNT Cowabunga Collection had the same thing.
>>11795506Singapore TRUs still stock them but there is still weird scalper drama.
>>11795485>game is focused on Season 1 and 2>Jackpot and Scoop are still featuredI sure hope someone got fired for that blunder
>>11795424>I haven't quite made it to Liege in my reading of the Marvel comics.Liege literally only appears in the literal very last page of the Marvel comics.
Look at itLOOK AT ITI WANT ALL OF YOU TO LOOK AT IT
>>11795506My whole country gaved up on stocking them.
>>11795554brickjet can become tank?
>>11795554I don't even mind the shitty tank mode I just think his color scheme is ugly
>>11795546You’ve put you own imaginary constraints on the theme
I didn't get one, but I'm glad everyone seems to be enjoying their Liokaisers. They look cool and it seems like no one is getting hit with ridiculous QC issues like the last haslab.>>11795562I don't mind it, but I actually thought he was an Autobot when I first started looking at him. Starscream aside, red and blue isn't a color scheme I think of as being typical of the Decepticon aesthetic (but maybe I'm just being retarded and overlooking a bunch of obvious examples).
>>11795554It's not that bad, it's basically a tankette.It's just a pity because og Quake was very clearly a leopard tank.
>still no Liokaiser shipping update
>>11793333Blast off arrived today and I was a little worried that looking at his freak hands would make me want to keep him in shuttle mode till I can combine them all but other than the guns being a tad loose in his grip once I attached them to his arms instead and posed him the hands didn't bother me as much and the transformation was a lot of fun.So far i really like both of the combaticon's as themselves and they look great side by side, also i managed to find vortex for £30 on ebay which it's about what I could have paid on a site with shitty delivery prices so I can live with that with him due after the bank Holiday.
>>11795596>It's not that badI think that's just the last decade of output driving your standards down.
>>11795563It is pretty nice they gave Bumper a lot of focus at least.
I cracked open my Missing Link Ultra Magnus today and damn you fucks weren't kidding when you said the combined mode was basically designed to scrape the chrome off his bumper. I'm lucky I only got a tiny scuff on mine before I realized it's a fucking diecast on chrome clip basically. I filed down the diecast a bit and covered it in foam tape to try and stop that from happening again.
>>11795686The inner bot remains awesome but the changes made to the armor are half-baked at best in general. Kind of disappointing, especially when stacked up against how much they were willing to tinker with Ironhide (which might have its own issues, in fairness).
>>11795554DEUWAGHUAGH
>>11795530I know this is going to sound weird, but that is the original theme (a least a remix of it). Basically Hasbro uses the raw audio version of the song rather than the edited version used for broadcast that modulated the singers' voices and added the transformation sound
Today is a good day to die!
>>11795732Yeah it's kind of eh. They definitely could have come up with a way of attaching the prime body that isn't fucking retarded and the leg articulation is brick-tier. If they didn't bother trying to have the prime legs stay attached to the trailer legs (which doesn't even work well) and just let them hang off the back (which I think most people are just going to do anyway) they could have had much better leg articulation on him.
>>11795686>crack open a Magnus>worried about a little chrome wear after you've already cracked him apart
>>11795902It's been known to happen, they're surprisingly fragile.
https://youtu.be/S-W_3gVsO98?si=DT-1e1g9AI5nsGNBhttps://youtu.be/pQf4HI648NI?si=KmLbj9wSP_gpmJ6Uhttps://youtu.be/MFHQcKxFd7E?si=PMTL8jkdrYHbWPPlhttps://youtu.be/qSgnhCmwIfo?si=on-l9VwhQiWywE2_
I haven’t bought a seeker in like 20 years (I preordered Skywarp SS86). Is G2 Ramjet fine too (I had that version in the 90’s). Are there any issues like mold degradation, or the color of the plastic degrading from weird mixtures yada yada?
>>11796022>). Is G2 Ramjet fine too (I had that version in the 90’s). Are there any issues like mold degradation, or the color of the plastic degrading from weird mixtures yada yada?earthrise seekers in general are super ass so dont
>>11795619I don't mind that mine is taking long. Maybe whatever assembly fuckup they have with this one will be discovered before mine gets sent out.
i desperately need a studio series thrust
>>11796022Earthrise seekers are a different scale and aesthetic from the current SS86 ones if that matters.
>>11795530blame the record labels. it's hilarious that a 1:1 cover actually saves you money.It's actually weirdly hard to find TMNT online now without its theme song replaced with a soundalike.>>11795755oh nevermind
>>11796022>Is G2 Ramjet fine tooG2 Ramjet unfortunately has had reports of yellowing on some of his turquoise parts, particularly on his forearms and hands. My personal copy of it is fine, but your mileage may vary depending on dumb luck. I'm hoping they eventually do a new G2 Ramjet out of the SS86 mold, but there's never any guarantee (after all, there are plenty of seekers they never made out of the Earthrise mold), so it might be worth it to get him just in case.
>>11795546lol[spoiler]jackpot and scoop are both pinball terms[/spoiler]>>11795563
>>11795554https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MrPnPpIg5k>you know you want to look at them!
>>11793888TV does not fill the same niche as an Ipad.
smart devices absolutely ripped society apart on virtually every leveleverything was made worse
Which story idea do you prefer for a Transformers story?>Optimus Prime and Megatron are the Autobot and Decepticon leaders and all conflict is between them unless a third party shows up (G1 cartoon, UT trilogy, Bayverse, Prime, Cyberverse) >Optimus Prime and Megatron disappeared for millions of years, many other Decepticon warlords and Autobot commanders rose up (Marvel G1, Japanese G1)
>>11796254I much prefer the straightforward established setting of option one. I'm very okay with twists on the known tropes (i.e. Rodimus Prime, Autobot Skycracker, what have you) but I think the mirror of Optimus/Megatron and their parties are just too strong. It's really hard to lose Starscream, Soundwave AND Shockwave in one go, too.
>>11796286Honestly, I feel we're due for major changes to the formula. Just pull a Beast Wars and disguise the faction leaders by giving them similar names. I remember coming up with a more episodic, Brave like take that would easily slot in both new and old characters, but would mostly focus on a newer cast, with both the Optimus and Megatron being big departures from the typical versions.
>>11795546Got some timestamps for that? I'd love to check out where they're featured, but the video is almost 45 minutes long.
>>11796252remember when we all thought someday futuristic tech would let us voice command our blinds to open or close, or program the window to open when it gets cool at night but close and turn the AC on before it gets hot, etc... then it turns out all the 'smart' house devices are just backdoors to your wifi. then all the remaining PC software became spyware. Then every industry became just a scam.>>11796249precisely my point.
Just found the new Ratchet today. He's cool. All his accessories can be stored on him.
>>11795554>"LOOK AT MY HORSE - IT'S AMAZING!"
>>11796254I would like to see Star Saber again in addition to Optimus and Megatron. There's no way they don't have some kind of Optimus at this point.
>>117962542nd option because it matches my collecting habits
>>11796399>There's no way they don't have some kind of Optimus at this point.What does this mean
>>11796392Favorite deluxe I've picked up in awhile and he has really great storage options.
I didn't pick up any of the primes but I probably would have considered zeta if they made him
>>11796439>zetaWhich one?
>>11796254My personal preference is>There is one main leader (Optimus/Megatron, Rodimus/Galvatron) and then there are Commanders and Emperors under them (Fort Max/Scorponok, Star Saber/Deathsaurus, Xaaron/Straxus, etc.)
>>11796449this one
>>11796254While the former is my preference, my favorite is when I get a healthy mix of classics I like and cool new bots. I also like reinterpretations of classic bots, like Armada Starscream.
>>11796254>(Marvel G1, Japanese G1)Are those really the only notable canons with various leaders?
>>11796461This clearly can not transform.
>>11796474yeah most of the on-screen designs are like that, been a thing since g1
>>11796461>>11796474I feel like a Gamer Edition Sentinel Zeta Prime would be a good stand-in though
>>11796488What I specifically like about the TFOne version is the colors and details like the chestplate and the gold trim on his pauldrons. Mix that with this body and I do believe I would be interested.
>>11796461TFone designs are so ass why is everyone a rectangle with as little alt mode as possible
Here's your Titan Class Broadside
>>11796508No one would buy a titan class Broadside. I hope that dumb shit is the haslab just to see how the team tries rebounding from the first Transformers Haslab to fail.
>>11796504probably saved a lot of money by doing it that way>>11796508christ I must be fucked up, took me like thirty seconds to realize I was looking at the macross
>>11796461Why is he just holding the energon axe by its bulb that is meant to plug into the hand of the figure and represent it being actively generated by whatever the holo-axe generator is?
>>11796513I knew it right away but I wasn't sure if perhaps this was a real product HOMAGING Macross.I mean, it couldn't turn out worse than Basara Prime.
This guy any good? I wouldn't normally drop 200 buttsuckers on a transformer but he's kinda my favorite convoy.
>>11796521now imagine if it was the super dimension fortress tidal wave
>>11796508Bitching!
>>11796525That was the next thing on my mind! and i've never even been much of a battleship guy. but they are growing on me.
>>11796530I don't.. think I've ever seen someone keep the 'g' on 'bitchin' before. it's weird seeing it so.. proper.Like that bit in Mission Hill
Do we all agree the best way to mod the new pinball machine is to take the top half of this model kit and pop the hinge off the stern one and use this instead?
>>11796508I clapped when I saw the SDF-1 from Robotech. Thank you Harmony Gold, our lord and savior.
>>11796511I'd buy a Titan class Broadside. A big ass aircraft carrier that deluxe planes can land on.
>>11796508Pretty sick
>>11796547You clearly don't know why it looks like that then
>>11796535oh hell yeah we got mission hill in tfg
>>11796511>No one would buy a titan class Broadside
>>11796630We always did
>>11796633Oh, god dammit.I just realized how much I need these retardicons in my life.
>>11796636Yeah I feel like the group that could not appreciate these guys was the same group that hadn't seen Mission Hill.If only they'd gotten Scotty Menville, too. But I think they were thinking 'if one of them is black, it's obvious we don't give a shit about that stuff' and then he was able to say later 'oh wow really? this is offensive to ME? I had no idea I was offended."
>>11796633>>11796640i never saw these guys as "black", i thought they were supposed to be hillbillies
>>11796642thank you. I thought the same thing as a kid with that one weird cartoon where not-elmer-fudd was there in place of elmer fudd.all of american 'black' culture is because hillbillies are the ones who got them assimilated.
>Fuck it, I'm too tired to be evil tonight.
>>11796642I thought they were Mexican.
>>11796642>>11796643I think they’re moreso meant to be wannabe gansta types since that kind of personality was really common in the 2000s, like Jersey Shore or the Wayans brothers
>>11796647Wiggers, in a word.I liked the ice cream truck combiner though I can't recall the last time I transformed it.
>>11796644I know how he feels. right down to the boxy cube torso.>>11796647Indeed. The thing about cultures and subcultures is, anyone can join them. That's the point. You know who gatekeeps culture behind race? violence gangs.
>>11796524This is a KO right? Because Fire Convoy always comes packed in firetruck mode.
>>11796654Encore Version
>>11796657Oh man, I read the Encore version also has its share of QC issues. I don't know anything specific though.
>>11796657>>11796660Yeah, don’t get the Encore version. It’s so bad that Takara had to release an apology and recall for it. https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/encore-god-fire-convoy-lg64-seaspray-and-rione-lg65-targetmaster-twin-twist-lg66-targetmaster.1124163/page-60#post-15674212
>>11796654No it doesn't.>>11796657Not the encore. The encore has a brighter white and a painted chest with clear pecs.
>>11796662>electronics that play the wrong soundshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd7LPidpFUg
>>11796524>>11796654>>11796657>>11796660>>11796662imagine paying 200 for the fucking encor version
>>11796667the seller is definitely taking advantage of people not knowing about this.kinda scummy, I don't think I'd do it. But that's RIGHT on the line of what I wouldn't do. Caveat Emptor only goes so far, y'dig?
>>11796667TFSource had it recently for $500 and it's out of stock now.
None of you retards have ever actually seen the encore.
>>11796672Yeah, I think this is the original just repackaged. You can tell from his torso being chrome plated.
>>11796677The original was released both in truck mode then later in the plastic tray in bot mode. The same tray layout was then used for all other takara uses of the mold along with the Sonokong release.
>>11796662Honestly I would take my chances on one if I could find it, a fire convoy with no chrome sounds great
>>11796518Apparently it forms from the hand, Optimus does the same, but the hand integrates more with the axe.
>>11796690huh, okay. I guess in fairness I have seen things like that in anime.
>>11796705But it is awkward imagining someone fighting like that, just gripping the end of their weapon and it just stays.. what, parallel with the forearm? but your hand can't quite grip something that way, so it would be slightly above the plane of the forearm..
>>11796672>actually seen the encore.I haven't even watched the show.
>>11796745Car Robots is subbed on youtube, thats how I watched it a few years back
>>11792917>people who got are saying its goodFUCK I should have backed this, now I'll NEVER get a Liokaiser D;
>>11796774Man, it really sucks that Takara doesn’t own Lyzack, she would have made the perfect Cyberverse Windblade or Animated Slipstream retool
>>11796774>>11796776Tis' a shame neither Takara nor Hasbro are interested in getting the rights to her from the author, along with Esmeral. We could've gotten a new Lyzack and have her tied with Lio Convoy being his mother.
>>11796784Lyzack as Lio Convoy's mom? So what, Optimus is the father? But he already has Elita One.
>>11796521Basara Prime is a fun as fuck figure, though.
>the knees are weakI don't knowEvery reviews that are currently out are saying the figures are good but in combined mode the knees are weak and clearly having issue handling the legs' own weight >Praying this issue wqs corrected with later batches of the production
>>11796660>>11796662Good to know, thank you. Think I'll wait for them to put out a new one.
>>11796804The knee joints seem easy to disassemble just be removing some screws, if they're really loose you can just add something inside to tighten the ratchets.
>>11796806I don't see it happening any time soon. Both the Encore and the Haslab had issues, the character seems to be cursed nowadays.
>>11796811Yeah I'm definitely not expecting anything within the near future. Gonna file this one under "maybe someday" and store it in the back.
>>11794383>>11794963 It works on the special Anniversary mode. New recording of Peter delivering the line "Megaton must be stop, no matter the cost" for it to transform and then that new version of touch plays.
>>11795462This is for some of the few arcades that still have Pinball areas, and those that do tend to lean more to premium machines. Since it's probably going to be in dense cities where you get a lot of tourists and people coming and going willing to spend at least $5 on a machine.I did a little math and lets say if you expect your average patron to pay $5, and you get about 7 players a day who only spend the bare minimum, within a year you could pay off the 12,000 for the VIP version. Possible repairs and maintenance would likely be covered for the first few years too. So after the first year, maybe two/three, you now have an income stream from the machine(with other machines having already been paid for and paying that off). The prices are high, but arcade/retail equipment often will be because it's sold with the expectation to net you money. While an individual can own them, it's rare and mostly for really big enthusiasts, and there tends to be a trading/reselling aspect since most people only have room in their homes for two or three machines at the most.
Special delivery! One stinging bee!
>>11796508How big is this compared to an average TF Titan?
>>11796473Technically the various beast wars shows too.
>>11796473RID15.
B E A S TW A R S
>>11796854I don't think it's amazing or anything but I really fail to see what so many people like about the Devastation Bumblebee over this one. The sculpt and deco are so cheap looking.
>>11796927Beasties*
OH SHITWHAT ARE WE GONNA DO NOW?!>>11796928The silver face is the only thing I don't care for on him. Devastation Bee looks more cartoon accurate, but I think I'd still prefer an updated SS86 with a recolored face and blue windows.
>>11796949superion might as well be a chibi version of himself
>>11796949They are so cute! Looks like they are ready to go trick or treating.
>>11796927beastwars
>>11796954>I'd still prefer an updated SS86 with a recolored face and blue windowsI fucking hate you people.
>>11794164she cute
>>11796660>>11796662>>11796665>>11796667The Tires also crack but luckily there's easy to find replacement/improved quality ones out there on Etsy and others>>11796928SS86 Bee is genuinely not Bee with that boxy ass awful huge chest and torso and ugly blocky feet
>>11796985In the name of Michael Vick Prime.
>>11796806You literally didn't post that version, you fucking retard.
>>11796927thank god for upgrade kitsthough I don't look forward to doing cryotek's one again when he comes out.
>>11796949>Nexus: I'm not a combiner, I'm a monster
>>11797200>I'm not a combinerThat's true at least.
>>11797218Pretty sure he's the god of combiners, unlike you.
Robots don't have gods, only a robot devil(he blows up)
>>11796508Wait is this some new transforming Macross toy? I have the old Megahouse one that needs partsforming.
>>11797224Right, right. Then who supplied the oil in the miracle of Robanukkah? come on.
>>11797224Primus exists, Jetfire. You can literally go visit him at the center of Cybertron.
>>11797254Soul of Chokogin got announced.
>>11797257>>11797255Bullshit, naturally-occurring gears and pulleys.
>be gears and pulleys>occur naturallyThis is ten hundred times as bullshit as robot gods or capitalist squidbots.
>>11797260kehehehek. I will never not find that droll. God bless those writers.>>11797266yes thank you, that's the joke.
>>11797266You’re never going to believe what the heart and muscles basically are
>>11797268An impossibly complex mechanism engineered by a profoundly intelligent creator, which, if anything deviates even slightly in any way, stops working.But, more to the point, not something that just spontaneously appears on its own, outside of a body.
>>11797043>She
>>11797271Now that I think about it, “naturally occurring gears and pulleys” makes it sound more like they are supposed to be Cybertron's equivalent to simple organism like Bacteria or Amoebas
>>11797274There are some naturally occurring gears in organic life, I think this is part of a cricket's hip or something.
>>11797271>a profoundly intelligent creatorHe made the "only put air in here" tube the same as the "only put food in here" one.
>>11797272Ima tell you what I tell people who insinuate about this ugly girl I'm friends witha guy would do a much better job hiding it if he was actually a guy. This is sloppy work.>>11797274It's a reference to abiogenesis. the idea that random chemicals can combine to make organic compounds. The irony of this is, if they accept this, they have to accept the possibility of infinite petroleum reserves, because that's what they've supposedly found inside meteors. Free oil, no need for a biosphere to make algae to turn into it.>>11797275yes but again, it's not that random cricket hip lying on the ground on its own. That is the joke. That gears and pulleys -themselves- are the ancestors. Not that their ancestors were inorganic material that spontaneously formed gears inside them.
>>11797277I'm not saying there aren't flaws. Ingrown toenails and menopause come to mind. But I think that's because we're degenerating over time. Everything in nature seems to be just rotting, like a satellite in a decaying orbit.I don't think we'd have made it this far if our ancient ancestors had fucking.. sleep apnea, for example. So I think our throat tubes used to be significantly more robust. But you do bring up a valid point.
>>11797257Some universes don't have a Primus.
>>11797281>Juvenile Issus coeleoptratusAh that's what it was, not crickets. I knew it was some manner of bug.>>11797280>That gears and pulleys -themselves- are the ancestorsNature's never done wheels, has it? There's some wheeled aliens in scifi but I can't think of any real world examples.
>>11797286IIRC there's exactly one pond-dwelling microorganism that has a wheel at the end of its tail that functions as a sort of propeller.but again... the suggestion is that the gear itself formed, just out in the open. Like a rock randomly had the right teeth to act as a gear, and a piece of asbestos strand formed a pulley over a round rock, and this, over time, produced robots. it's supposed to be funny.
>>11797286jumping bugs of all kinds do have neat little catches and springs in their legs. Sometimes it's as simple as what they use in transformers with firing missiles. You pull the leg back til it fits into a little notch, then another muscle depresses the 'switch' and it sproings off. Of course what's really impressive is how their nervous systems are able to do this on the fly when needed, without requesting confirmation from the brain first. Bugs really are little robots, and they're impressive.
>>11797287A bunch of proteins figuring out how to self-replicate inside a bubble seems pretty funny too when you think about it.
>>11797290well that was my point. I was just trying not to hammer it in too hard.
>>11797272it's not a she?
>>11797324anon is just making fun of a girl with a slightly manly hairstyle.. and also uh.. doesn't appear to be getting great sleep so her skin looks like shit. and with an unfortunately german jawline. But hey, people thought Jeri Ryan was hot, right? I didn't..
>>11797280>a guy would do a much better job hiding it if he was actually a guyYou would be absolutely surprised
>>11796644I've developed a bad habit of forgetting to adjust Liege's shoulder pads before I take pics. Or to put them back on at all in the case of the first attempt at this shot.
>>11797369it's like when you get home and take your bra off
>>11797369How does a guy with a made up alt mode have such an awkward bot mode
>>11797376It's actually not made up, it's based on the motherships from DOTM
>>11797377What a very random choice, especially since he had nothing to do with anything that happened in DOTM.
>>11797063>SS86 Bee is genuinely not Bee with that boxy ass awful huge chest and torso and ugly blocky feetI still like it more than the Devastation one in every way.
>>11797389it's thematic! i can dig it. it's supposed to look super alien.>>11797376yeahhh there's definitely something wrong with the current designers' sense of geometry. They really don't seem to get where squares should and shouldn't be used. just look at scorponok. Zero reason for his torso and legs to be so boxy, that doesn't suit either mode, nor realism nor show-accuracy.
>>11797389Liege Maximo is full of tube/tentacles. Those ships have tentacles.
>>11797377That's designer cope
>>11797402literally what do you mean by this
>>11797272SHUT the FUCK up.She's a cis woman, and she's actually a genius pinball coder.
>>11797405>She's a cis woman>cisKys
>>11797406...yeah?you're the one that brought up the whole topic in the first place, why are you getting mad
>>11797407I'm nta, but it is insufferable when you faggots use that retarded terminology like it will ever be normalized or accepted. So just kys.
>>11797408first of all, did you never take high school chemistry?second of all, what else terminology are you supposed to use? or rather, would you not get your jimmies rustled about?
>>11797408"That thing is blue.""Actually it's red.""WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD USE THAT RETARDED "RED" TERMINOLOGY"
>>11797408The... terminology?Anon you know trans and cis are latin, right?Do you even know why Transformers has "trans" in it?
>>11797419do you even know that a prefix is not a valid adjective?what if I said you were 'pre' or 'anti' or something? you'd have no fucking idea what I'm talking aboutthe reason these people lopped the 'sexual' off of their thing is so they could pretend it was suitable for children.There can be zero tolerance. ZERO. of any 2020s language. Anything you wouldn't have said in 2007, don't say it now. Period. This rule can be rescinded when shit is sane again.
>>11797421>what if I said you were 'pre' or 'anti' or something? you'd have no fucking idea what I'm talking aboutActually with conversational context, I would. Because I'm not stupid. I see "pre" and "anti" used as their own words all the fucking time.>the reason these people lopped the 'sexual' off of their thingNo one was loping off "sexual" from words, anon. Did you think we were saying "cissexual"?>There can be zero tolerance. ZERO. of any 2020s language."Cisgender" specifically was coined in 1994. You could buy the G2 Aerialbots, G2 Combaticons, Rotor Force, Laser Rods, Hero Prime/Megatron, and Dreadwing/Smokescreen off store shelves during that time. The use of cis as opposite to trans in the context of sex and gender in general goes back all the way to fucking 1914, the year World War I started..
>>11797426Instead of replying, Ima just tell you to read my post again instead. Maybe eventually you'll realize that it's kind of irrelevant if some John Money type 'coined a term' back in the sane era, when obviously I was talking about when it became ubiquitous.and that goes for all your 'ooms' and your 'this-ers' or 'anti-that-ers' and obsessive generational labels and pronoun shit and 'glizzies' and all the other brainrotted verbage.
>>11797428so you concede, then.
I concede that you're pretty fucking 'dys'
>>11797428you still haven't explained what term we should be using insteadsounds like you just want to bitch for the sake of bitchingthat's sad, dude
>>11797434While you're doing all this meaningless research to back up your claims while missing the point, maybe look up the meaning of 'shibboleth.'we don't need a term for 'a real actual man/woman', and we SURE as hell would not use the term commonly used and pushed by those who think there are alternatives to those two.and until you understand that, you aren't welcome on this planet.
>>11797436sounds like you just want to bitch for the sake of bitchingthat's sad, dude
>>11797436>and until you understand that, you aren't welcome on this planet.Aw, look, he thinks he has authority. That's cute.
It's kind of funny how mad he got but uh, toys?
look, a cisformer!
>>11797443I’m really hoping we get an Oilmaster out of this mold>>11797457I’m shocked HasTak has never retooled any Seeker mold into Skyfall
>>11797457I mean, technically not wrong.
>local stores finally put this and reissue skywarp on clearanceI got this instead of skywarp- already got thundercracker. I have to admit even now the engineering on these things are brilliant simple and effective. I wonder if we will see Missing link insecticons soon. It isn't really that difficult to give them full articulation besides the feet. >On the reissue Those enegron cubes literally melted/uncure the paint on the gun. I don't know why they package the cube and the weapons together. The gun looks like it suffers from vitiligo. Is this the reason why the bombshell reissue they have the cubes in a separate ,bag?Maybe I should strip the paint and pain it silver?
>>11797471How have they still not realized what materials eat paint? You'd think they would have a list that goes "if used, store separately from painted parts"
>>11797443I fucking love toys and both of those Gears are very good ones. I messed around with Hound a little more. Wasn't sure what everyone hated about this guy until I put him in alt. The gap in the back and arms hanging out underneath are pretty bad, but I still like the robot mode a lot.
>Gee, I sure hope no one figures out that I don't know how to read or write and that this is just a tape recorder
>>11797428Glizzies catching strays
>>11797513It'd be even funnier if The Covenant turned out to just be Soundwave this whole time.
>>11797513Nah man, he writes on the touchscreen like a Blackberry.
>>11797517catch my glizzy
>>11792942If anyone says they like the Decepticon combiners more because they're cool or they have more purpose in Zone, that's understandable. I say, if we got a Shattered Glass Heatwave, he could have been a pretool of Hot Spot, but I'm expecting they release him in New Legends first through a complete Nexus Prime box set, even get announced at the start of next year.
>>11797434You just call women women and men men. It's that simple. Anything else would be playing into Marcusean class warfare bullshit.
>>11797520DELETE THIS POST.What if a retard hack from Skybound or Hastak reads it, huh?
>>11797520Old testament and new testament situation, but with Soundwave and Blaster.
>>11797066thanks for your contribution anon
>>11797558Then maybe I get a toy of a Soundwave that turns into a book
But what if the devil had a jetpack?
>>11797616>Sideswipe, give me your rocket pack!>>My rocket pack, Satan?>NOW!
>>11797542I'd buy a new legends Heatwave for sure, but I'm not sure how that would if the limbs are rrally coming out in the next line. Are we calling that one AOE too?
>>11797520>>11797558I mean, Logos Prime was a Soundwave redeco after all
Think I'm done messing with Liege for now, though I may put him in rock lord mode later this week. Second attempt at this display after properly clearing space and adding Liege, I think it came out a lot better.
>>11797601I would absolutely keep that on a bookshelf with a tape recorder inside. Really making me want to push for a personal office at work so I can blackmail people feeding me dangerous intel, anon.>>11797665That's a great big display, anon. I plan to do something similar soon. Really loving Star Convoy right now.
>>11797458without the shell?
>>11797495he would've been fine if they didn't cheap out on the seat section.
>>11796803ITS A NEWLITTLE BUSTAHSMORE THANFINAL FUSION
>>11797695>That's a great big display, anon. I plan to do something similar soon. Really loving Star Convoy right nowThanks anon. I enjoy the challenge of trying to display big groups in a way where everyone is visible and don't look totally squished together. I wish you the best of luck with your Thirteen display, they look really nice as a set. Star Convoy is also great, in my top three of this group along with Megatronus and Liege. I'm probably going to pick up Nemesis Star Convoy despite how wallet obliterating expensive it is. Love the colors and the mold too much to pass on it.
>>11797558>Soundwave was the Covenant of Primus all along >Shockwave was Onyx Prime all along>Optimus Prime was The Thirteenth all alongSo who else we got?
>>11797775Wheelie was behind it all
>>11797775Oh, yeah>Malleus Minotaurus was Solus Prime's hammer all along>>11797780I'd believe it - Unicron is a time-displaced Wheelie, thrown so far into the past that he ended up in the previous universe, which he ate.
>>11795464>>11795477>>11795468>>11795455>looks like a Tom and Jerry gag where Tom ate a boxtried to draw Beast Wars gagwill probably draw more characters in other gags
It's kind of pointless now but I wish we got a G1 or G1 inspired Grimlock repainted into Megatron. I remember awhile before Kingdom there was a leaked prototype of that videogame Grimlock with a Megatron head. Maybe Missing Link or 3P could have given us one but oh well we have actual Megatrons now I guess.
>>11797847Robot Mode
>>11797845snort.>>11797848it's kinda badass, but I just can't be into such stumpy t-reges anymore. With such thin legs and such a fat pelvis and tail.
>>11797847lmao YES i need another ss86 grimlock recolor (im not even kidding-i really want it cause i love that mold) and BW-megatron is a perfect new idea for that.
If Japanese ball raccoons can have clocks in them why not ghetto blasters... last one
well that's image limit. you wanna make a new one? mite b nice to actually have the pastebins.
>>11797859>mite b nice to actually have the pastebinsSomeone's going to have to update them first.
>>11797859>>11797876I want to create a fun thread but i dont want to anger autists that cling to pastebins and autistic style of tf-generals
>>11797845I like it>>11797847I don't like it
>>11797859>>11797876Done>>11797961>>11797961
>>11797633Not Heatwave. Nexus Prime (Complete Form). If you buy the New Legends version, you're buying the entire combiner.
>>11797851What colors is it pulled from??Also lowkey you should do an account somewhere & post these digibash, these rules
