Previously:https://boards.4chan.org/toy/thread/11797526/gi-joemilitary-general-premature-autosage-edition#bottomOut now:>Ninja Force Zartan (Target)>DIRE-tech Night Creeper (Walmart)July 1:>Destro with Despoiler>Sundown>Overkill>Snake Eyes (Dawn Moreno)>Airtight>Hydro-ViperJuly 15 release:>retro-card Wild Bill>Techno-Viper>GruntJuly 22:>Taurus and Red Dog 2-packSDCC July 23 - July 26>Fatal Fluffies>Shipwreck and Cadet DemingUnknown release dates:>Lara Croft 30th anniversary crossover>Grand Slam>Scarlett and T'JBang Ninja Force>Deep Six>rugged Duke>Mistress Armada>NightForce Psyche-Out>Iceberg>Toxo-Viper>Snake Eyes green ferret vs Stealth Viper Trouble Bubble>Stealth CLAW with figure>Arctic Cobra Commander with Arctic BaronessReaction+ unknown release dates:>Zartan (color-change)>Deep Six>Lady Jaye (cartoon colors)>Cobra Commander Ninja Force>Snake Eyes Ninja Force>Cobra Viper GunnerRumors:>Stalker with kayak>Retro Firefly>Water Mocassin with gunner figure>Dusty with Sandstorm>Heartwrencher>Desert Team Pack>Stealth CLAW with figure>Road Pig>Triple T with Sgt Slaughter>Muskrat>Voltar>Zanzibar>Serpentor>Energon Baroness>Scoop>blue S.N.A.K.E. armor with dire tech>Thunder Machine>Golobulus (SDCC exclusive)
>Some notes ahead of Yo Joe June and the weekly reveal streams:>- No G.I. Joe HasLab this year.>- Cobra Commander’s crown is removable.>- 14 preorders will be revealed and put up for preorder this month.>- More will be shown at SDCC in July.
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>>11807753>- Cobra Commander’s crown is removable.I figured it was with them displaying it on a finger last year.
>>11807506>Based on nothing.If Mattel can sell the motu Core line for $10, then there's no reason why Hasbro can't do the same for o-ring.>>11807281>people still think that because a figure is slightly smaller it should be dramatically cheaper.Actually, o-ring should be less than $10 due to having less plastic and less articulation than the motu Core line. You've just been programmed by greedy corporations to believe that a slightly larger figure with slightly more articulation should cost dramatically more.
>>11807813yeah, that guy's full of shit to defend a dying toyline.While plastic is probably the cheapest part for a toy (its weight for shipping it probably costs more), the engineering (parts count = more pieces to mold = higher price) is definitely something that greatly influences the price.So you are right about the He Man shit being more costly to make.As I've said many times, Hasbro is pushing the 1:12 line and doesn't want anything else to sell, so they pretty much sabotage everything else. They make everything else less enticing and/or limited, which is why so many GI Joe fans stop caring about GI Joes.
>>11807754>Surprise render reveal that hast been named yet.Here's to hoping we finally get Rock Viper.
>>11807839stop posting thisand stop saying the line is dying
>>11807855Ninja Fore Arctic Stormshow update would also be cool. The one using the SE moving body from amazon sucked ass in articulation and is cream colored like a stiff sock left under the bed for a few months.
>>11807870Personally I just want to see the Arctic CC and Baroness 2-pack as well as a price on it and Shipwreck since I'm not rich.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alVpkG9Zzbgstream started
yeah they're definitely skirting some kind of gay mandate with the crown on hooded CC, all the promo shots have him with the crown on lmao
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>>11807901live already on pulse $70, fuck you.
>>11807901I'm offended!
they didn't put the GI Joe logo anywhere on Deep Six because they wanted him to be a diver toy for people who don't collect Joes. very weird thinkingThe dead head isn't a reference to anything, just something they wanted to make.
>>11807901$70 is a bit high, but damn does it look good. Shame about the construction error
VAMP mk2They also said they will re-run the first VAMP, admitting it was underproduced
Hooded CC is availible now at "mainline retailers" (not showing up anywhere but pulse currently)Deep Six and the vehicle 2 pack also go up today at 1 pm ET, so maybe that also applies to hooded CC hitting amazon or whatever
>>11807914Nice! I was hoping it was the look from the old Night Force Six-pack, but I'll take it.
>>11807917HAL kicks ass, but ngl I was hoping for silver pad Grand Slam.
>>11807932I like how they called this "artwork" as if it isn't obvious that it's a filter over a product shot
>>11807914Why does he look like Tom Cruise?>>11807917There fucks the budget of anyone hoping for an affordable retro-card Flash. Looks awesome though.
>>11807924The implication i get is that hooded CC goes up at 1pm for everyone else. I didnt even know he was up on pulse before checking this thread. Hes alreadys old out on hasbro pulse too so i dunno if it was a members only thing or not. God i hope i can get him today.
>>11807954He's up on BBTS now
>>11807955I dont see his page even if i see it advertized what the hell
>>11807826Yes, they sabotaged O-ring, and here is how they did it:>When Hasbro announced a 3.75" "Retro" line, vintage collectors expected the return of the classic 1980s O-ring construction. Instead, Hasbro reused body structures from the 25th Anniversary era and simply repackaged them on retro-style cardbacks. Fans felt cheated by the "retro" label, sparking massive social media backlash that severely stunted initial collector hype. Also, the Retro Collection was heavily tied to a Walmart retail exclusivity window, which suffered from notorious distribution issues. Hasbro leveraged this situation as a convenient rationale to replace the 3.75" line with the far more lucrative 6-inch scale.Truth is, Hasbro wanted to stick a longer, girthier cock in our asses, and it was easier to convince us fans that we needed a bigger cock shoved in us with the 6" line.Having said that, I still believe that O-ring figures will make a comeback. After all, there's only so many obscure characters and repaints that Classified collectors will tolerate till they lose interest in the line. What is old will be new again. And I have a good idea when O-ring will return. My guess is 2028. 28 is a reverse 82, which is the year that O-ring launched, and it will be 64 years since the original Gi Joe figures launched in 1964. Sounds like the perfect time for a re-launch.
>>11807956they put it up at the wrong (lower) priceit's apparently back up now at the right nowseemingly a few people were able to buy it for 54.99
So is he gone? Kept trying to go in the link but he's not showing up properly.
>>11807955>>11807956>https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/product/gi-joe-classified-series-221-cobra-commander-throne-action-figure-set-189121?variation=370549
>>11807961Okay nvm he's back up.
>>11807963Thank you so fucking much, i managed to get hooded CC from this link you posted. Youre a life saver anon
>>11807963Any chance Entertainment Earth will get it?
>>11807960A few people did yeahSadly I wasn't one of them
>>11807960>seemingly a few people were able to buy it for 54.99That's what it should cost for a single figure with plastic throne with no action features at all. And that's what it would have cost a year or two ago.
>>11807998Well... yeah. Everyone knows that, you don't have to point it out
>>11808009You just paid $70 for it, eh? Me too. I feel the shame, but want the throne.
>>11808010No I paid $51.99 on Entertainment Earth
>>11807998If toy prices were what they were even 5 years ago I would have bought seven Professor Rottclaws. Hell I remember when I was buying BATs for 20 and thinking that was overpriced If I still want the toys I dont really know what to do besides just complain.
>>11808034And vote better
So bmac said SE was based on a sticker misprint. I looked it up and no, it is not even close to the sticker design. It's definitely Resolute SE. Here's what sticker SE should look like.
>>11808046I did but my vote didnt matter this time
EE just fixed the price Hope you got it when it was at $52
>>11808049>definitely Resolute SEHe didn't have a sweater, tac vest, or green pants in Resolute
>>11808046Prices were going up before Trump won.>>11808052Sorry, Raul. >>11808049That's actually kind of cool with them looking at the little details of stuff from the past like that. So that raises our chances of gettig "cartoon error" White Roadblock?
>>11808061EE and BBTS have started to charge you the fixed price so it won't matter.
>>11808064Kinda self reporting there since nobody mentioned any names
Got my order in for CC and also Buzz Lightyear for my Fensler Film Joes
>>11807919>just forked out for Vamp & Clutch Of course they’re reissuing him twice. At least I am very happy to see that this is the setup for the Tiger Sting
>>11807949It definitely looks like Tom Cruise
>>11807928I have every Ninja Force figure thus far yet I feel absolutely nothing for either of these
>>11808064>Prices were going up before Trump won.Trump is Zartan in disguise, and we are headed toward... A NEW WORLD ORDER!
hooded still CC is still up at gamestop for 54.99comes in under 60 dollars with shipping
>>11807739>>11807907Woke is Kill
>>11808085Took toy companies too long to figure out woke tards don't support your company by buying action figures. They go to funkos and funko-like shite. SW team need to get back on track now that KK is out. Updated black series slave leias and Oolas need to be a thing again. Not to mention gamerverse ShaakTi in her traditional garb and animated series ayla in animated proportion.
>>11808061Gamestop still has it for $55. But it's GS so it's a gamble.
>>11808098I'm feeling like it's like Ghost Viper which was originally $55 then went up to $60. I think they meant to sell throne CC for $55 then realized it'll still sell at $70.
Works on my machine.>>11808101Something similar happened with Marvel Legends Phoenix deluxe or whatever it was. It was probably offered to retailers at a reasonable price, but then Hasbro realized that they could sell it for more and raised the price, and most retailers raised it as well.For what it's worth, Pixelatoy (pic related) didn't raise it and kept the normal non-inflated price all the way.
EE was even cheaper, but they've now gone up to $70 too. Just waiting to see if they cancel my preorder now or not before trying gamestop
>>11808049I did think it resembled the Resolute design more, even if it's not wholly accurate.
>>11807949>Why does he look like Tom Cruise?Honestly the main reason I want it even more now.
>>11808085The only collectors that have a problem with Cobra Commander's hood are the ones posting cringe #toysfightingfascism pics on Instagram.
>>11808128They're all gonna go to the highest possible price to make more money. The big question is whether or not they'll honor the lower price some did but it at.
>>11808132People like that aren't fans, and are the "modern audience" that demands everything revolves around their feelings, and then they don't financially support the line. They just get off on imposing their will onto everyone else.
>>11808064>So that raises our chances of gettig "cartoon error" White Roadblock?kek
>>11808132But wouldn't they want this because its he's evil and they take pics of their #toysfightingfascism
>>11807870My favorite joe as a kid
>>11808098I expect GS will price correct too but fuck it that’s a way more reasonable price I’m going to risk it
>>11807928Bmac called him "shuh-bang", is that the actual pronunciation? I always said "tee-jay bang"
>>11808175"she-bang" would make more sense as a joke gi joe name than whatever the accurate chinese (????) pronunciation for made up nonsense would supposedly be
Seven days until the next set of reveals. Hopefully Lara Croft will be among them.
>>11808183once again, a reminder, nowhere has anyone suggest that Lara Croft is a con exclusive and it wouldn't make sense if she was
>>11808185It doesn't make sense to customers, but Hasbro has done shit in the past that didn't make sense.
>>11808188but this wouldn't just be up to hasbro, it's a collaboration with crystal dynamics and embracer group, who would not license a Lara product to hasbro so they could make 2000 units of a figure they'll only be selling for less than the price of a video gameThey'd want Lara on store shelves, and this figure would appeal to most people who already collect Classified, as well as a bajillion who don't
Those who live in poverty work themselves to the bone and can't be there at preorders drop time to get a lower price. But the wealthy who don't need to work easily grab a 52 dollar Cobra Commander. The world has always been backwards.
>>11808152I'd buy it. Make it a 2-pack with "brown dude with blonde hair" Quick Kick.
>>11808193Nigga I have 9 to 5 job and magically I can still afford to check my phone to pre-order useless crap I don't need and it's not breaking the bank for me to spend 100 dollars here and there outside of my usual expenses
How many ninja force characters do we have so far? 4? I'm trying to bring back my childhood. I need ninja force and the eco warrior color change toys in classified versions.
>>11808196If you can magically stop working at 1pm to order something on your phone without getting the lash you don't live in poverty. You have a cushy job
>>11808198nunchuck or whatever the fuck his name isninja zartanslice & dice
>>11808199I stock shelves
>>11808201You win this time, Absolute Batman, but I'll be back
>>11808134People like them make me want to do the most WWII accurate Red Skull ever, lol.>>11808159Have no doubt one of them will give him a little, yellow Trump wig, getting punched in the dick by Duke or someauch.
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>>11808200Also #14 Arctic Mission Storm Shadow
>>11808222I can't afford him sadly. Just bought the others I'm missing other than zartan and already have Kyle.
>>11808199I`m a garbage man and I was home by 1pm eating lunch...I just forgot he was going up for pre-order so I missed that "early bird" pricing.
>>11808219Perfect.
man im glad i never got into GI Joe cuz all this shit is pretty heckin cool and I would never want to dedicate all the space it would require
>>11808239What did you have for lunch?
>>11808322Split decision at IHOP
>>11807914Neat, I hope Action Man and the Adventure Team become a running subline within the line. >>11807917Oh nice, I'll actually wanna get this one. It's better then the missile system as you can actually have figures interacting with it. >>11807919Yea, that's what I expected it to be. Cool for fans who like the Vamp, but it was never a favorite of mine and I already have the first one. Now had they made it so the bed could fit more figures, I probably would've bought every version they released. I'm still upset I missed the AWE Striker due to budget reasons, but I do love they actually added a gunner seat to that and I look forward to seeing it's many repaints. >>11808263When you first get into Joes you think "they're small, the won't take up much room". Next thing you know you have ten vipers and a dozen bats, then you start picking up the vehicles and then you start grabbing playsets and then you start getting unofficial and unaffiliated vehicles and playsets that just fit the scale and the next thing you know your entire basement is dedicated to a giant never ending battle between America's highly trained special mission force and a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world. >>11808322Italian hero from a local deli with a bottle of Stewart's black cherry and some chips.>>11808326I haven't been to an Ihop in ages, if I want good pancakes I'll usually just hit up one of the billion diners by me, though the wife makes the best pancakes as far as I'm concerned.
>>11808049How the fuck does that resemble Resolute SE? Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>11808084GameStop total for me is $66After shipping and tax.I think I’ll just go through BBTS, that way I know I’ll get it for sure since it’s the same price for me.
>>11807957I don't think there's much of a market for o-ring figures.Most GI Joe collectors, and 1:18 collectors in general, want modern age figures, which is what i think you're actually talking about. o-ring figures have rubber bands inside the torso. The Retro figures have normal ball joints inside the torso.And yeah, Hasbro kinda fucked up the Retro line, like you said. They did update the figures though, by using printed faces and having a thigh swivel. The fans did feel cheated, because it was just the same characters/designs that had been re-re-re-remade a dozen times already and fans wanted NEW designs like the Classified stuff.Like i said, Hasbro wants to funnel all sales for GI Joe into the more expensive option and since most GI Joe collectors want 1:18 figures, collectors would choose the 1:18 figures over the 1:12 line, which would lead to the 1:12 line probably being a non-starter.I think the GI Joe line would be far more popular today if they made Classified into 1:18, instead of being on life support like it's been since the movie bombed in 2021.Hasbro is so afraid of losing sales for the 1:12 line that they cockblocked Hiya from releasing their 1:18 GI Joe line with modern engineering in North America. Hiya actually delayed their GI Joe line for almost 2 years to negotiate North American distribution and they gave up on that, because Hasbro cockblocked them that hard. Hasbro has no problem with ReAction's o-ring line, because they know how small the audience is for o-ring figures.
>>11808183Hopefully she does well and maybe open them up to more video game crossovers like Metal Gear Solid. I'd army build the hell out of the genome solders.
>>11807914I'm not a huge Action Man fan but if they make a No Face Classified figure I'm buying it.
Deep Six looks cool but the mummy head is crazy. Cool but weird
>>11807949>Why does he look like Tom Cruise?Because he's a real life Action Man.
>>11808199Well I was inside fuel cells and couldn't have anything on me that will cause sparks. I missed it.
>>11808438>I don't think there's much of a market for o-ring figures.You're probably right. Just wishful thinking on my part. >I think the GI Joe line would be far more popular today if they made Classified into 1:18It is very likely that Hasbro is planning to launch a new kid line for the new movie coming later this year. I doubt they'll be 3.75 though, as it seems the industry is moving towards 5 inch figures. I'm expecting them to be similar to Mattel's motu Core line.
>lots of Haslab discussions>reminded I want a Hiss tank >examine it again Is it just me or are the proportions all fucked up? The nose is huge and the treads are way too small.
>>11808587it's not like it ever made sense in the first place
>It is very likely that Hasbro is planning to launch a new kid line for the new movie coming later this year. I doubt they'll be 3.75 though, as it seems the industry is moving towards 5 inch figures. I'm expecting them to be similar to Mattel's motu Core line.Uh... what?
>>11808645Actually, the movie and the new kid's toy line won't likely come out until 2028. So we have about a year and a half of overpriced, ratchety jointed, rubbery, dust collecting 6" military dolls to enjoy until Hasbro shifts it's focus back to a younger demographic.
>>11808664what point are you trying to make?that you don't "play" with classified figures but you would "play" with more limited, child-aimed figures in a smaller scale?
>>11808671I just never cared for the 6 inch scale. Didn't buy into the hype. I'm ready for something new, something better.
>>11808678well, that must be rough when every other major toy line has been 6 inch for 30 years except GI Joe, which has been doing it for 6 years
>>11808678Can’t relate
>>11808678>something new, like going back to the way it was for 40 years instead of this new thing
>>11808678>I just never cared for the 6 inch scale Tell me you haven’t got a new toy in a decade without telling me
finally a non-uggo scarlett it'll be hilarious when this head doesn't fit on the retro body, but either way I'm getting this set
>>11808741A lot of people don't like the bigger scale because it means fewer vehicles at higher prices, and it takes more room to collect. Plus there are nostalgia collectors who simply want vintage.
>>11808678I feel the same way, about 1/12 and 1/18. This is the only Joe that matters
>>11808814The first Classified Scarlet is cute. She even has freckles.
>>11808438>I think the GI Joe line would be far more popular today if they made Classified into 1:18That would completely kill the line stone dead. Classified already has an established buyer base, 1:12 is more popular nowadays than 1:18, and people would only buy them at 1:18 if they were much cheaper, and given 1:18 toys don't cost much less than 1:12 toys to produce it wouldn't be viable.
>>11808664look at this retard thinking hasbro can actually make a gi joe movie kids will like when they haven’t had any idea what to do with the brand for 30 years
>>11808961>Classified already has an established buyer base, 1:12 is more popularIt isn't, given the fact that Hasbro seems to ahve fired almsot all the GI Joe team and didn't immediately replace them, due to nearly 6 years of falling sales.I don't think the bulk of the GI Joe fanbase even got into the Classified line, because these threads have been a ghost of their former self since the relaunch and most GI Joe communities never reviving after Hasbro killed the 1:18 line in 2016.Personally, I'm not a big fan of Hasbro's 1:12 figures since they got the Marvel license in 2007. So even with GI Joe, I've bought more Mezco GI Joes than i have Hasbro's and my wallet is so itchy from HAsbro not making as many 1:18 toys anymore I'm buying old shit i didn't bother getting in the first place, like pic related. I waited way too long to get him, so i paid $35 instead of the clearance prices he was going for 2 years ago.With the economy getting worse and toys going up in price, Hasbro needs lower price point toys. Whether it's 5" like that other guy seems to believe or switching back to 1:18... it has to be something, because $28 is way too much for most people now.Also, Ross apparently found rotting merch from 2021, because i found these Avatar figures yesterday, along with Snake Eyes movie shit. Only $8, so now i have 7 or 8 Miles Quaritch figures for custom fodder. I'll buy more if another Ross has them, because I'm always interested in 1:18 stuff. Even this Beholder works in 1:18.
>>11809031Oh good, Subjectanon's here to derail the thread over his scale autism.>It isn't, given the fact that Hasbro seems to ahve fired almsot all the GI Joe team and didn't immediately replace them,They've been doing that with every team because their current CEO is an evil prick from WOTC who by his own admission doesn't like toys.>due to nearly 6 years of falling sales.Citation fucking needed. If sales had been that bad they would have just canned the line like they did with Starting Lineup.>I don't think the bulk of the GI Joe fanbase even got into the Classified line,The bulk of the G.I. Joe fanbase hasn't been interested since the early 2000s. G.I. Joe hasn't had the same luck with revivals as Transformers (which went from "dead brand" to "runaway success/complete resurrection" with Beast Wars)- since the movie and the DiC seasons basically torpedoed the popularity of the brand it's never been THAT big again. Not helped by very poor treatment on the media side. In fact I'd argue Classified did more to revive the brand than just about anything else- you had faithful takes on beloved characters with some of the best quality/engineering at the Western retail level and at the most popular figure scale.>because these threads have been a ghost of their former self since the relaunchAh yes, the Subjectanon classic. "This line must be dead because I make the general unusable from my shitposting so nobody wants to talk here".>and most GI Joe communities never revivingIn case you hadn't noticed, the internet has changed. Traditional forums are a dying breed.>With the economy getting worse and toys going up in price, Hasbro needs lower price point toys. For sure, but that won't mean new 1:18 figures, or if it does they'll be really simplified. A 1:18 figure at the same engineering level as a Classified figure won't cost much less to produce than a 1:12 one. So...
>>11809037>Citation fucking needed. 1. Ross and Ollies full of GI Joes from nearly every wave because Walmart/Target/Amazon needed to get rid of unsold stock2. The fact that GI Joe's design team is almost all gone and weren't immediately replaced3. Less shelf space for the toyline after the movie line bombed.4. Various Walmart dropping the GI Joe line over the years and now even Targets have started to dropped it.>In case you hadn't noticed, the internet has changedYou can't make this excuse, because there was growth until 2022 or 2023 in almost all places, including 4chan. Nevermind shit like DC toy communities exploded after Mattel lost the license, so there was a huge revival once McFarlane and Spinmaster took over.GI Joe fandom has basically been a zombie since the Classified line launched and these generals ahve been stumbling along, but you wouldn't know, because you weren't around when GI Joe was actually popular from 2002 til 2016.I'm not going to address the rest of your contrarian bullshit, because I've already proved what I've said years ago.>The bulk of the G.I. Joe fanbase hasn't been interested since the early 2000sBe less obvious with your contrarian bullshit, Rashid.
>>11809031It's possible hasbro maybe slowly winding down the line for their move to Ma. Then they could just outsource GI Joe afterwards
>>11807813Hasbro did try to make a more affordable version of Classified with less articulation. No one bought it. I am sure little things like shitty face sculpts as well as them being a tie-in to the shit movie no one wanted helped the line NOT sell, though. They didn't even try to offer a cheaper alternative to the core line.
>>11809091kids simply don’t want toys from movies they don’t like, it was doomed from the start
>>11808734Now show us the price tags where you bought those at Ross for $5 each. >>11808955I still feel like the movie Scarlett is the best version. >>11809086>Ross and Ollies full of GI Joes from nearly every wave because Walmart/Target/Amazon needed to get rid of unsold stockThey get stock from every wave BUT they don't get every figure from every wave. The stuff people want sells out quickly. The stuff that people don't want or got over-produced takes longer to sell. So did you see Battle Armor CC, Crystal Ball, and Zartan mixed in with the figures from their waves that didn't sell as well at Ollie's/Ross? Neither did I. You're projecting the (lack of) demand for the fodder figures as being absolutes for the entire line.
>>11809088Hasbro didn't slow down when they killed Kenner and other toy companies they ate up.Either they immediately replaced them (they're actually replaced BEFOREHAND) or they just killed the toys they were making.Companies plan way ahead of time, because there can't be any sort of lull if they're actively making something. Go look at how production went after Retalation failed and they lost a good chunk of their team in 2013. It became a once a year toyline and that was mostly just redecos and retools. There's more team members lost now, so what does that entail for the future of the GI Joe line?>Then they could just outsource GI Joe afterwardsYou mean how Mezco, ReAction and Hiya have been making GI Joe figures? Or NECA making Dungeons and Dragons figures?... man, I've lost so much respect for Hasbro, that i hope that they do give up on GI Joe, just so we can finally get modern 1:18 figures again, because Hasbro are assholes for cockblocking Hiya's modern 1:18 line.>>>11809102>They get stock from every wave BUT they don't get every figure from every waveAre you dumb?So Ross/Ollies/etc gets 75,000 GI Joes from wave 18 instead of 100,000 because a single figure sold out still means that the GI Joe sold poorly enough to get dumped by Walmart/Target/etc, hence various Walmarts and Targets no longer carrying GI Joes. Again, this is why their waves are so small compared to other toylines since the movie bombed and why they fired most of their team.BTW, i did see Zartans and CCs. And because of how Ross/Ollies work, you won't see if there's a mass of unsold Crystal Balls until a year from his release. The only way something shows up near its release date as ross/ollies is if a toyline sold so poorly that Walmart/Target/etc didn't have space for new stock, thus immediately dumping it. That happened with Lightyear toys and the Pursuit of Cobra vehicles long ago.
>>11808371The two pack SE is much closer to the Resolute design than the sticker one.
>>11809117>So Ross/Ollies/etc gets 75,000 GI Joes from wave 18 instead of 100,000 because a single figure sold outYou got those numbers from.............?And it isn't that high, which is why not every store gets the same inventory. >BTW, i did see Zartans and CCsPics? The only CC that made it to clearance that I saw was the retro card one. And it wasn't from a lack of demand because that's one of the ones most Classified collectors got. That was a case of them over-producing a popular figure. And Zartan at clearance? Yeah bullshit. Look up his prices. The demand was/still is too high. He didn't last long at regular retail, and neither did Crystal Ball, who'll never show up at clearance.
Is there any chance of getting more non-weapon accessories?
>>11809122>And it isn't that high, which is why not every store gets the same inventory. Discount stores like Ross/TJ Max aren't randomly getting stock, because they have distribution centers who send shit out across to a thousand stores across 45 states. So even if each store gets 2 cases, that's tens thousands of figures. The randomness you see (and you don't, because you're not in the US, which is why you don't understand what I'm talking about) at Ross/Ollies is all due to how far trucks need to travel to deliver their goods and because collectors/scalpers have known Ross/Mashalls are great places to find quality toys since the mid-00s.And again, the stock they receive is AFTER Walmart/Target/Amazon already clearanced their shit off at their stores. Again, the fact they get ANY stock, and the fact that they've gotten EVERY WAVE, is really bad.... hence, GI Joe team being almost all fired and other shit being canceled (Haslab?)I think the straw that broke the ebola infected camel's back is Target no longer carrying the line at every store.> And Zartan at clearance? Yeah bullshit. Look up his prices. The demand was/still is too highYou clearly have no idea how great Ross/Burlington Coat Factory are, because i managed to get the 25th era Cobra Island set at Marshalls, and those sets were worth their weight in gold by the time i found it.also, you can't expect me to take pictures of everything i find at Ross. I'm not a female.
>>11809145you sure rant like one
>>11809145Ive seen quality Star wars toys at ollies, but never any quality gi joe or MLs. It's always the same peg warmers no one wants
>>11809145>My anecdotal evidence trumps your anecdotal evidence>IT JUST DOES OK!!!!You sure do argue like a female. Must be why bald manlets hit on you.
>>11809188>>11809178Sadly true. Every topic gets derailed over him arguing pointless bullshit while presenting his personal observations within his limited area as universal facts.
In case anyone's interested, Super7 is saving their next set of reveals for June 26-28.
>>11809226The worst part about reading what this chode keeps crying wolf over is that all Classified stuff just gets vacuumed near me the moment it's on the shelf. There isn't a single peg warmer or anything. Most of the figures I get are online only now due to the speed at which it sells at Walmart or Target. Some Comic shops have them in, but at markups of double or more.
>>11809236To add to this, I have one local Ross near me that doesn't get really any good figures, GI Joe or otherwise. They occasionally get Black Series stuff, and the Ross exclusive Todd DC figures, but that's all I ever see at that particular store. Meanwhile, at one that's a tad farther away tends to have a better selection of stuff, now I don't always see Joe stuff there, but I do occasionally. I personally haven't experienced finding a plethora of figures at Ross or Burlington, but that's just my two cents.
>>11809241Scalpers add to it. They know the stock days, and when the store opens in the morning. They've made it their business to be there on stock day at first opening to hoard up everything for re-sell. They're the reason why Ross and Ollie's doubled the price of a Classified figure from $4.99 to $9.99 at the turn of the year because they figured if there's still meat on the bone for scalpers then there's still some for them too. So even at discount clearance, scalpers cause artificial shortage to drive up the price.
>>11809086>Ross and Ollies full of GI Joes from nearly every wave because Walmart/Target/Amazon needed to get rid of unsold stockthen how come you only ever post pictures of the same 5/6 figures on shelves there>The fact that GI Joe's design team is almost all gone and weren't immediately replacedthey were replaced, and they already have the next year and half of product if not more blocked out >Less shelf space for the toyline after the movie line bombed.the movie bombed five years ago > Various Walmart dropping the GI Joe line over the years and now even Targets have started to dropped it.once again, not mine
Are there KOs of Joe's.
>>11809370The only ones I know of are of blueshirt Cobra troop KOs on Temu.
tomorrow, target at 9 am PT for those unaware
>>1180961511am my time. Hope I can get one.
>>11809615It's weird how she has armor on her shoulders, but that's it.
>>11809615EST dingus. Geek out preorder are always 9am EST. Thats 6am PT.
>>11809615>Decided to go get Slice and Dice thinking itd be still on pulse and maybe even on sale since they been showing up at ROSS. >Sold Out.>Okay, check ebay, it should be flooded with resellers stock. >$80 sold price.Fuck me I guess. Guess I'll hope BBTS get some like all the other HP exclusives.
>>11809370that just looks like a box that collected moisture while also getting beat to shit by direct sunlight
>>11809234is there actually anything good from Super7 aside from like, the Spongebob stuff?Power rangers stuff suckedTheir Godzilla suckseverythings big and articulation blows
>>11809784Not a thing. The company is dying faster than Playmates.
>>11809226>personal observations within his limited area as universal facts.They're not personal observations, because other people in other states on this forum and other sites have been reporting the same things as me.The fact that it's widespread is why i predicted that the GI Joe line has about a year left about 3 months ago. Hasbro can't keep the line on life support when it's losing more support even though they already lowered their sales expectations for it after the movie bombed.Shock and awe, my prediction is being proven true, since they've been getting rid of their GI Joe design team to the point that announcements aren't even being made by their marketing karen and now outsourcing that to some nobody from youtube.They also canceled the long rumored haslab for this year, which again shows how they don't think they have enough support from fans to get it done and no design team to make it anymore.>>11809251>derpIt's already been explained three times to you, but for the sake of people who don't know: Ross/Ollies/etc set their prices based on what Target/Walmart/Amazon/etc sells the toys to them. Usually it's half price of MSRP, but if Target/Amazon got rid of their stock when they were clearancing off the product (extremely poor seller), then it's half off the clearance price. So the fact that GI Joes are now 1/3rd the price instead of 1/4th is because GI Joe is there's less overstock that Target/Walmart wants to get rid off.Walmart/Target have ordered muchless stock to match the lessened demand, hence >>11809236 having a problem finding stock normallyRoss/Ollies do not give a shit who buys their products. Scalpers = collectors = kids = parents. Everyone is a wallet to them and they just want people to buy up stock that normal retailers got rid of because it didn't sell at their stores.
>>11809671She's a ninja in bright green spandex, her whole outfit makes no sense. But that's why people like em.
>>11809993>They're not personal observations, because other people in other states on this forum and other sites have been reporting the same things as me.yet you ignore all the counter reports of people who see classifieds at their local stores
Finally pulled the trigger on LifelineFirst off, his head sculpt should have been used for CrazylegsSecond, it's super retarded that they gave him gun hands that can't hold a knife/bladeThe oxygen mask is a a worthless accessory since it lacks a strap to secure it to someone's face and the tune connects to nothingAnd finally what it that broken to black parascope piece he comes with?
>>11809993You've been shitposting that Classified is totally going to be cancelled in two more weeks for years at this point. Your predictions are no different to a doomsday cult's, and just like Harold Camping or Scott Neitlich, you will move the date of the apocalypse when your prediction fails to eventuate again.
>>11810065no, you don't understandlately he's been saying the line is on life support but hasbro will continue to burn money forever so it won't ever die, but even if it does continue for another 10 years, that still won't count because all walmarts in the continental united states have ceased to carry the figures
>>11810002>counter reportsyou're being stupid.A popular product is carried by every single store in a chain. A normal selling product is carried by every single store in a chain.A product that is selling poorly isn't carried by every single store in a chain. So the fact that some Walmarts stopped carrying GI Joe after the movie bombed in 2021 was kinda expected, and we understood that Hasbro lowered sales expectations. We also knew that Hasbro lowered sales expectations because they didn't release as many figures per wave, because lower sales expectations get lower budgets.When Target stopped carrying the GI Joe line in every store, that's a bigger problem, because these two stores make up a huge chunk of sales in the US.When you have the biggest chain stores in America lessening their support for a toyline, that's a huge issue, hence my prediction that HAsbro is going to kill the GI Joe line. Again, the fact that we saw most of the GI Joe design team leave Hasbro without Hasbro replacing them is Hasbro confirming that sales are so poor that they can no longer budget a team to make GI Joes anymore.I mean, is HAsbro even paying that youtuber to announce their products or are they just paying him in overstock? Maybe internet points?>>11810065stop lying.I've never said GI Joe is canceled/dead until a couple of months ago. Before that, i was saying it was on life support. This is my earliest post about that, which yo ucan look up in our archive: 10244798 This is when it became obvious that GI Joe sales were bad and wasn't just because of the plague/shippingcrisis/economy, but the fanbase simply not existing like it did from 2002-2015
>>11809615i've always thought about it and the Coil could work as a retool for Ninja Force. The subline is wacky as is. Besides it was already a Target exclusive vehicle.
>>11809993You literally said you were predicting this line was dieying in 2023. At this point it's like saying it's gonna rain every day until it does.
>>11810158I like this cycle with Baroness. I'm surprised they haven't brought it back. Maybe that first year negativity spooked them more than I thought.
>>11810155>A popular product is carried by every single store in a chain. A normal selling product is carried by every single store in a chain.noaside from the fact that there are walmarts that exist purely as grocery stores with none of the extra shit, on top of ones that have no or some limited version of the auto department or linen section or guns, there's any number of regional differences in products on the shelves based on local demand, plenty of them don't sell furniture eitherI know all this because it's obvious information you can glean from paying attention and being a human who goes to stores, but apparently you don't have that same abilityI'll say to you, and not for the first time, I have 4 walmarts in my area (a ways outside the city of Houston), and they all have classified figures on their shelves
>>11810155>I've never said GI Joe is canceled/deadAnd I never claimed that you did, cholo. Learn the difference between past and future tenses.>life supportPeople that are healthy aren't put on life support. By saying it was on life support, you were clearly saying that the line was dying. You are arguing semantics. Also in post 11149961, you say, and I quote:>having next to no shelf presense is literally one misstep away from being cancelledYes, it's always one misstep away from being cancelled, or it is on life support and will be cancelled within a year, or two more weeks. Your years of doom posting because you are big mad that Hasbro abandoned 1:18 is clear for everyone to see.
Visionaries Reaction+ photos. It feels good to have these to mix with Sunbow Joes.
>>11809234Wondering if they're going to announce the Cobra Flight Pod?
>>11810200>b-b-but the exceptions!No one expects the walmart that exists purely to sell tires and brocoli to have GI Joes. wtf is wrong with you?Most people who go to Target and Walmarts talk about going into the toy section and expect to find their favorite toylines there. This is why people report shit in the first place. They used to be able to find GI Joes at their local Walmarts/Targets and then all of a suddenly, they couldn't.Again, i didn't actually say anything about the GI Joe line dying or being on life support until 2023, because maybe it was a season thing or shortage where Walmarts couldn't restock GI Joe for whatever reason. By Christmas 2022, stores generally try their hardest to stock everything they're going to and at maximum levels too.So when stores failed to stock GI Joe or lowballed it, 4chan, other forums, and youtube all reported on their experiences, well, it became obvious that GI Joe was on life support. Hasbro had lowered their sales goals with the line and were living with half the shelf space it was originally getting and were fine with many Walmarts not carrying the line at all.Again, now we can see that with Target not carrying the GI Joe line in all their Target stores, Hasbro is now firing/layingoff their GI Joe design team, which means that the GI Joe line is on track with being canceled just like whenever this happened with other lines (including GI Joe when it got canned in the mid-10s).I had a very reasonable take and Hasbro themselves has backed me up by firing most of their GI Joe team and canceling projects.>>11810235>rashid attempts to mental gymnastics with his ESL skillswhats the walmart equivalent in your country?
>>11810272>This is why people report shit in the first place. They used to be able to find GI Joes at their local Walmarts/Targets and then all of a suddenly, they couldn't.except most people don't report that
>>11810272>whats the walmart equivalent in your country?Walmart.What is it in yours? El Walmarto?>calls others ESL because his seething mestizo ass can't tell the difference between future and past tense>calling people muzzie names againYou seem obsessed with muzzies. Was your nephew that Vazquez kid that shot up the mosque in San Diego a few weeks back? You should join him.
Reminder this is a thread about GI Joe TOYS. One, single, simple little thread to discuss GI Joe TOYS. This is not a thread about cartoons, comic books, or being a broke ass piece of shit faggot. Can you just let the collectors chat for once?
>>11809226>his personal observations Not even irl, just shit he reads while terminally online. He keeps harping on some overstock from almost 4 years ago. Meanwhile all recent Joe sightings at Ross have been a few people finding the stuff and that’s it. I personally visited multiple Ross locations multiple times a week for two months and found exactly zero GI Joes>>11810272>cancelled Haslab means the line is dead I bet you’ve made 1500 posts in the last 5 years on how much you hate Haslab. Wow, they finally realized it sucks and decided to chill out it for a minute. Thats probably gonna end up being a good thing by resulting in us getting more retail releases m. And by “we” I mean everyone but you beacuse you admit in this very thread you don’t even buy figures from this line. Why the fuck are you here?
>>11810323I don't think Hasbro has pushed ANY haslabs for ANY of their lines recently, have they? It isn't just a GI Joe thing. But the guy uses circular logic, and refuses to acknowledge that most of his complaints and supposed "evidence" can usually be applied to all of Hasbro's lines, or just the toy industry as a whole. Remember, his entire logic hinges on "Nobody wants GI Joes, so they all end up at Ross/Ollies" then when pressed on why so many people can't find them there, his comment is "Well, resellers buy them up and sell them online for retail."So...no one wants them....but everyone buys them up and sells them online for retail? His own logic makes no sense.Also, for his claims that he's only been making these assertions for "three months" (I mean, we all know he's lying and has been saying this shit for the better part of 5 years) here's a post that he made last December that I was going to post again this December to show how fucking stupid his claims are.
>>11810329>I don't think Hasbro has pushed ANY haslabs for ANY of their lines recently, have they?There's been no Haslabs launched all year, the last one was the 3.75 Inch Tron set in October-November of last year, which predictably failed. The three other Haslabs from last year however did reach enough goals to go into production;Transformers LiokaiserGI Joe Classified SnowcatStar Wars The Vintage Collection LAAT/i GunshipGiven the lack of them this year I'd say there's a company wide pause on Haslabs, sure looks like it from the outside at any rate
>>11810323>I bet you’ve made 1500 posts in the last 5 years on how much you hate HaslabThe only one i think I complained about was the Skystriker, because it was made for o-ring figures and is incompatible with modern 1:18. Pretty fucking retarded of them.>you admit in this very thread you don’t even buy figures from this line.I like how you want to put words in my mouth, but you're even bullshitting about what what I actually said in this thread. This is a GI Joe thread and i talked about buying more Mezco GI Joes than i do Hasbro ones.Nevermind my GI Joe collection is massive, because i continue filling it out every year with past 1:18 GI Joe figures.Just because i'm not excited for Hasbro's boringass remakes doesn't mean I'm not a GI Joe fan.Pic of one of my Mezco's along with a bunch of Joe vehicles, which would be familiar if you were here when GI Joe was popular on /toy/ in the early 10s.>>11810329whoa, you caught a mistake where time goes by faster than i thought. So instead of 3 months, it was 5. Might as well nitpick my spelling to claim I'm wrong while you're at it.And has HAsbro announced other haslabs for other lines are canceled? Did they fire and not replace other teams? Has their output for the other toylines dropped by half? Have those toylines been dropped by various Walmarts and Targets? ... besides the Tron shit... which is a dead line/property.You're trying to compare apples to oranges, just because i proclaimed the logical conclusion by following what's going on in stores, of how Hasbro was going to kill the line within the next year (also, i made a clarification after that post you just posted, because i know how much you guys want to declare I'm wrong based on a technicality). Again, Hasbro has backed up my logic by firing their GI Joe employees without replacing them.
>>11810373>Has their output for the other toylines dropped by half?this hasn't happened with Classified
>>11810329It really looks like the failed Tron HASLAB has dragged everything else down with it.
>>11810373We got a V.1 Cobra Commander, which is something O-ring collectors have been waiting on for decades. Hasbro also fixed the annoyance of the original, which is wing and landing gear action tied together. Now you can have wings out without the gear being out too. It's two separate mechanism now. Both were very much wanted by the vintage fanbase. Vintage collectors are out there. We're still holding the value of the best stuff, and still wanting new stuff to fill in the holes. You're just projecting your opinions as facts AGAIN. Some like me collect both. The only people I ever met who only collect one line are LEGO and Pop Vinyl collectors. The rest of us that I've met as well as myself "diversify the portfolio," so to speak.
>>11810065I believe him this time since facts are starting to bend in that direction. Designers being let go and no haslab doesn't bode well
>>11810463Designers quit because they didn't want the inconvenience of having to move with the company's move. They pulled the trigger on a choice that goes against a company they could have retired from. I think they fucked up, and just blew away whatever retirement nest egg they spent those years building up. Neither of them are young, and they should have been thinking about those things. Go on Youtube and search for toy sculptors. There's plenty of talent out there. Their skills won't be missed. There's a total lack of HASLAB from any line, and not just GI Joe. It's looking like they're transitioning from HASLABs to made-to-order so there is no MOQ. That actually does the fan base a favor since if you place an order, then you don't have to sit there spending the length of the campaign hoping and praying others will back it too so you can actually get it. There is no more Tron situation where 1,200 people sit there for a month while dreading and hoping another approx. 8,000 people will come through.
$59.99 by the way
>>11810510>https://www.target.com/p/g-i-joe-classified-series-212-ninja-force-scarlett-and-t-39-jbang/-/A-94977260#lnk=sametabHasbro starting early with price increases. Gonna be $29.99 for singles and retrocards in the next preorder cycle.
>>11810475>retirement nest egg they spent those years building up.Bro, that's not how companies work anymore. They don't get pensions anymore, everything is 401K or IRAs and you can take those anywhere you work. It's why employees jump ship when they can. They're not tied down anymore.
>>11810512who cares, broke bitchthis was me spending 65 dollars on a new Scarlett head
>>11810519good goy
>>11810510Already sold out within minutes on Pulse, huh.
>>11810510>$10 jump over what a 2-pack costed six months ago.>>11810512Probably yeah. They don't give a damn about the fact that the more they raise prices, the more they push customers out.
>>11810517This, and imagine thinking modern Hasbro wouldn't have pushed them out before retirement time even if they did do pensions.
>>11810527That kind of shit is the reason why prices won't come down.
>>11810527>>11810533Consider also you have to have a special membership for that first hour too. They had to pay $60 a year to have this opportunity to spend $60 more
Got my scarlet at target. I hate store exclusives because ALL of the stores around me never have toys because of changing customer habits.
>>11810540Where I live WalMart never has shit while Target has done a good job at getting Classified in.
>>11810542It's either mine don't stock or there's some scalper who always gets there. I don't have the time to waste gas. I took 3 trips to try to get concept megatron and after that said fuck it and got him luckily on a restock online.
>>11810545Know the stock dates and know when they open. Scalpers all do. If they know the exact date of release of something you'll see them there at the door before the store even opens. They're especially vicious when it comes to Pokemon cards and LEGO. The fuckers will literally snatch shit out of your hands while bitching that you're stealing money from them by trying to buy something at retail. I had that happen to me years ago with MP Optimus at Target. Store workers had to force the guy to give it back or get banned from the store while asking why him having four wasn't enough and why he needed five of them.
>>11810550They'll outright start fistfights. They did that just a month or so ago with those Audemars Swatch watches. When they weren't in the right position to get one because others got ahead in line earlier than them, they'd start shit to create chaos to put themselves in the right position. Scalpers really are assholes.
>>11810519A new Scarlett head that honestly doesn't look much better
>>11810519kek, only buying one
>>11810556always be coping
Sold out on Pulse and Target. And it's the only one of the exclusives to actually sell out on Target, the Star Wars, Marvel, and Transformers offerings are all still in stock on Target. But, you know, the line is dying, right Subjectanon?
>>11810244>>11810247>>11810250>>11810252Hell yeah! Hologram stickers are long over-due for a comeback. Those figures also don't look as weirdly-proportioned as the originals. For the originals Hasbro tried a little too hard to make them look muscular. >>11809784GI JoeMicronautsclassic horror monsters
>>11810562Maybe it's just me, but I don't get why the divers 2-pack didn't sell out. I thought they're pretty cool. I see it as a no-brainer for them to do the female versions with swappable Lady Jaye and Baroness heads.
>>11810565the divers were sold out for like 6 months based on whatever initial stock they ordered for the initial and the massive delays all hasbro products sufferedthen there was a huge restock toward the end of the year
>>11810317Dude it's all the people here that got rejected from friend groups and discords, go join those if you want to stay on topic.
>>11810562To be fair we don't know what inventory things are made at. They keep numbers of both what is made and what is sold very obscured to the public. Like Cobra-La Royal Guard only got stocked twice in my area but they are still reordering and restocking The apology tour TFs and they sold out at a much faster rate than the Guards but even when that last guard went they couldn't get anymore while they can within a week get another case of Hot Rod and Scourge.There is no proof it is "dying", "doing well", or just "ok" at the end of the day only Hasbro knows and they decide if it stays or goes. Well that or the global hot war coming in this summer.
Hasbro has been silent on SF movie figures since getting the license. The movie is out in a few months. Do you think we'll get some tease this month. They already given Lara Croft and Action Man, both I would never epect the Joe team to make. I can't see the Marvel or Star Wars team working on SF figures since Disney would likely say no with their current license.
>>11810607I'D rather see a full Tomb Raider and MSG line added to Classified.
>>11810613The movie line would completely be seperate from GI Joe Classified, just the same form factor in parts and how they're sculpted. the Black Series team worked on the Indiana Jones figure line and share the same figure styling and build while not reusing sw parts.
>>11810576Lmao listen to these goalpost movements and mental gymnastics. What a retard.
>>11810244Watch, they will be $35+ due to the stickers. Call me what you like but the reaction + line is too damn high. Give me every reason in the book and the price still won't make sense.
>>11810627He's right though. The HASLAB stuff is the only stuff we can get exact numbers for. >>11810633I don't know. I know they pay a lot for licensing, but they did glow-in-the-dark figures without marking up the price.
>>11810627>devil's advocate.jpgI'm starting to think anon is right and this place is just 3rdies and bots that can't understand what is being posted. >>11810633At this rate what isn't too high? The situation is getting worse not better with oil prices so I'm not shock if this starts shooting up to $55 for a basic Classified figure next year.
Nothing new on Lara yet? This is year 30 of Tomb Raider, and we're almost halfway through it already.
>>11810816they'll probably show a render this month, if nothing else
>>11810531They don't really care. They are aiming to extract max profits now before they lose most designers in the move and become an IP company that only licenses out stuff
>>11810556She looks like an angry Karen to me, would not buy. Especially not for 60 bucks
Speaking of POs, Walmart has the Dire Night Creepers up for PO again if anyone wants them and missed them before.
>>11807739why the fuck did they use translucent gold plastic instead of gold plastic plating it?
>>11810563i'm curious if they're going ot go with the holograms similar to your image or the ones that those old toys orignally had which were crazy hard to manufacture
>>11810919You act like there are none left for them to hire. That's wrong. >>11810938Vac-metallizing adds to the cost, and doesn't work well with plastic that's more flexible.
>>11810941They're probably going to keep it simple, and go with the Lazer Blazers style. It still works, and still looks good.
Weekend haul
Post never ever crossovers.Pic related. Bonus for Clark, Ralph, and Leona getting figures.
>>11810941>>11810947I saw a guy in Japan post a hologram he got of The Guardian Legend's box art (for filling out the included survey back in the 80s, I believe) and I never wanted something so bad.
>>11811003Since the Cold Slither box set was essentially a shelf warmer, we'll never get a Jem & Holograms box set and we'll DEFINITELY never get a Misfits box set, which is what I'd actually want
>>11811011>Jem Its been this nigga all along
I’ve been wanting this dude since 1992 when my mom refused to mail in the form for me.
>>11811011Cold Slither sold out in the initial run. I think it's another case of something successful being over-produced.
>>11811000Scrap iron and metal head are nice, I don't care much about the robot scratch iron comes with but the blast effects are really nice. Scrap iron is a really nice figure imo, be careful with metal head as his missiles can get droopy and loose.I miss collecting classified, but i got frustrated by missing out on so many exclusive figures I decided to leave the line alone instead of developing bad feelings towards the series if that makes any sense.
>>11811047It makes sense. I almost dropped it myself with my frustration of trying to find Ghost Viper because collecting is supposed to be a fun and relaxing hobby, and I don't have patience for Hasbro and Walmart deliberately creating artificial scarcity to justify the price.
>>11810378>this hasn't happened with ClassifiedThere were 5 figures in wave 1.wave 1 was notoriously bitched about as soon as they showed it off. Silly guns, silly designs, etc. criticism was so bad that Hasbro almost immediately changed direction on the GI Joe line, catering almost exclusively to nostalgiafags who just want the old designs exclusively, so a lot of the new designs that they revealed were never made/canceled.Wave 2 had 3 figures in it. Wave 3 had 2 figures. And this became the norm from then on, because the relaunch was blundered and sales were that low from fans rejecting Classified, hence nearly every wave showing up at Ross.>>11810475You sound like you're 14, because you have no idea how businesses are run. A company like Hasbro who produces thousands of products every single year runs on a non-stop schedule with products in development 14 months before they're released, where any delay can cost millions of dollars.If an employee is fired or quits, that will cause a delay in production, hence Hasbro ALWAYS having a replacement for that employee BEFORE they even left. there's been no replacements, which means there's going to be delays/cancellations for the GI Joe line and Hasbro already announced that their Haslab project for GI Joe has been canceled. Since Hasbro doesn't really announce that toylines are dead (Fortnite, Overwatch, GI Joe in 2016, etc), you really won't know what else is being canceled as they slowly wind down GI Joe Classified over the next year, because who's even left at the GI Joe design team now to make figures?>>11810424That Ghost Rider Haslab failed too. The last Star Wars Haslab barely made it. Weak sales, so of course HAsbro is probably rethinking future projects, but the fact remains that GI Joe's Haslab is the only one that's been announced to be canceled>>11810427you're just throwing out words you have no idea what they even mean. fucking nonsense that has nothing to do with my posts.
>>11811006That's awesome, really great game if you like shooters or just really nice nes games in general
>>11811066>Wave 3 had 2 figures. And this became the norm from then on,Except it didn't.
>>11811066Star Wars is dead
>>11811033"sold out" you mean they restocked too fast for that to be another run. Look at their other shit that sold out and they went to a second run, hell look what they admitted about Hood CC here, >>11807754 That band wasn't even sold out for one month and kept fluxing between in stock and sold out every other week.Hasbro has done with other items and other brands. It's clear the goal is to cause a FOMO to kick in.
Man, I am going to have your guys' experience with getting a sought after Joe when Lara releases. Here in the UK, nobody seems to care about G.I. Joe as much so stuff usually takes a while to sell out, even though it's only stocked in a few places, but she will be gobbled up instantly I predict.
>>11811208I wouldn't worrythere's almost zero chance the lara figure will be exclusivethe parent company wouldn't license tomb raider to hasbro for them to only sell it for 5 minutes on pulse
>>11811011I kinda hate that we'll never get an actual Jem reboot because no one is smart enough to write a good sci-fi soap opera musical adventure and instead always tries to make it some sort of teeny bopper CW-lite bullcrap. The original Jem stood out because it was a stealth super hero show, stop ignoring all the cool sci-fi weirdness that made it unique and fun.>>11811033It's crazy people are complaining that an Exclusive is easy to obtain. It's a fantastic set, mostly because of the box and presentation, to the point I honestly don't want to open it despite wanting to mess with the figures.>>11811051Wal-mart created that scarcity. Hasbro can't make more of an exclusive figure if the company they exclusive is contracted to doesn't order more.Also, is not getting a single crappy repaint that much of an issue to you that it actually causes you stress? I think you might have to rethink your priorities in life if not getting a toy you want causes you this much emotional damage....
>>11811368That's not what is being complained about
>>11811070Either you're trolling or you're a crying bitch, because GI Joe definitely is such a poor seller they couldn't do full waves since the fans started to reject it with wave 1 was revealed in 2020. See pic? This has been the norm for GI Joe Classified.GI Joe used to be a FULL toyline, just like Hasbro's Marvel and Star Wars lines, so getting 6+ figures was the norm from 2002-2013. Hasbro obviously wanted GI Joe to get that full line up with Classified, but fans rejected it.>>11811171The guy's a troll, just like the troll who says that 1:18 figures almost as much to produce as 1:12. It's already been explained how they couldn't produce another assortment so fast and how it "sold out" because they need to halt sales to count inventory when the stock that went out to conventions comes back. It's sorta like how they "sell out" of convention exclusive at the convention itself, but later on they start selling it on their website.Of course, cold Slither didn't sell out for the longest time, just like most of classified. I would not be surprised if Cold Slither shows up at Ross and Ollies
>>11811631That's the Retro subline, it's not the mainline Classified series and has a smaller amount of figures per wave. This is the most recently listed mainline wave on EE and it's 5 new figures in a case assortment of 6 figures with the duplicate being the generic troop builder. The wave previous to this is also 5 characters in a 6 figure case. You are blatantly wrong.
>>11811693It's funny that you only show the top part of the page, because i went to the same page you did and the rest of the page shows that previous waves had fewer figures. STill not a full wave like Star Wars and Marvels, and GI Joe from 2002-2013 used to get.Again, it shows how poorly received the GI Joe line was and how it affected the entire line for years.The fact that they're including more figures now may be that they're just burning through what's been prototyped before the line gets canned. Gotta make their money back on the work that's already been completed. I mean, they fired most of their design team, so they're obviously not aiming to have much, if anything at all, at stores in 12 months. Whatever workers that are still there are probably just to ensure China doesn't fuck up production and fix any errors. Along with a screenshot of the other waves missing from your image, I'm including how the second wave of the Classified line only had 3 figures (3x CC, 2x Gung Ho, 1x Red Ninja). Again, what you posted wasn't the norm.
>>11811368>I kinda hate that we'll never get an actual Jem reboot because no one is smart enough to write a good sci-fi soap opera musical adventure and instead always tries to make it some sort of teeny bopper CW-lite bullcrap. The original Jem stood out because it was a stealth super hero show, stop ignoring all the cool sci-fi weirdness that made it unique and fun.I should watch the show, friend of mine has seen a bit of it and he was telling me it's shockingly good, and also completely nuts. Notably the Misfits being absolutely unhinged, and rather than "Let's embarrass the Holograms at their concert" their schemes are more "Let's straight-up kill the Holograms".In other news I got Helix coming in today. She looks pretty cool! Not familiar with the character but I dig her design and the arm blades look fun.
>>11810942They have already stated the desire to be an IP holding company. They could replace designers but they haven't
>>11811769If nothing else, it's got an easily top 5 opening theme and animation (season one, not "Jem Girls", lol).
>>11811066Did they say the haslab was "canceled" or just saying it wasn't going to have a haslab this year? I thought the latter
>>11811787It's the latter I believe.
Are we sure they have no designers left or is it just down to a lower number?
>>11811787The exact post is at the top of the thread. >>11807753>there is no GI Joe Haslab planned for this yearPeople like to selectively interpret things to suit their agenda.
>>11811797They have toy designers, and no doubt had new talent in those seats the very second they were vacated. People are being melodramatic with claiming that Hasbro lost the only two people on earth capable of doing that job. >>11811365There was exclusive Lara merch in the past. I couldn't find any pictures of it, but I remember the TR2 game in the back of the booklet having an order form for stuff like a Tomb Raider watch, leather jacket, and other stuff that couldn't be bought anywhere else.
>>11811717A nearby Walmart still has Frag vipers and Blowtorch. I never saw wave 14 on the pegs at all. It either sold out really fast, or no locals tore got it in. When considering that I didn't even see it at Target which does do a good job at getting stuff in, it was probably a total sell-out.
>>11811799I always when posters show off their 6th grader quality logic.You guys are nitpicking at the terminology to be contrarians.So I'll just copy and paste my post earlier>Shock and awe, my prediction is being proven true, since they've been getting rid of their GI Joe design team to the point that announcements aren't even being made by their marketing karen and now outsourcing that to some nobody from youtube.>They also canceled the long rumored haslab for this year, which again shows how they don't think they have enough support from fans to get it done and no design team to make it anymore.My "agenda" is stating a basic observation that a company like Hasbro wants to make money by selling products and we've been witnessing how stores aren't able to sell those products, because of fans not buying them (hence constantly going on clearance and unsold stock being resold to discounters like Ross and Ollies).You guys can argue over the meaning of "cancel", but it doesn't change the fact that Hasbro isn't making a GI Joe Haslab because they don't think people are going to buy it. There's no other reason for Hasbro to make a product other than to make a profit. Sales have fallen to this point, which is also their design team has been decimated. Sales aren't good enough to justify replacing them.
The worst part about this guy making shit up for the last 5 years, is people still continuing to argue with his retarded logic for the last 5 years. Just ignore his stupid ass.
>>11811835>You guys are nitpicking at the terminologyYou are the one claiming that a rumor was cancelled. I'm sure there was a rumor in highschool that you mother gave out $5 handjobs. Would you say that the rumor was false, or that she cancelled her plans to give out $5 handjobs?
>>118118351. Fans do buy them when they're good. Every series has its peg-warmers. You can't expect the demand for Big Lob to be the same as the demand for battle armor CC (as an example). Ninja Zartan and DIRE Night Creeper were instant sell-outs that didn't last a day, so the line's still doing healthy WHEN they produce what large numbers of people want. 2. Hasbro didn't get rid of anyone. Tony and the other guy chose to quit so they're not inconvenienced with having to move. Their skills are not exclusive or unique. There is no vacuum of talent in their absence. 3. Cancelling HASLAB isn't an indication of failure, at least not for GI Joe which never had a failed HASLAB. Shifting to "made-to-order" is a positive thing because that means no more bullshit of unlocks, minimum quantities, or any of that other shit. If they offer it, and you buy it, you get it. It's still a limited exclusive, but it's not one that's contained within having to have thousands more get on board.
>>11811631>Either you're trolling or you're a crying bitch, because GI Joe definitely is such a poor seller they couldn't do full waves since the fans started to reject it with wave 1 was revealed in 2020. See pic? This has been the norm for GI Joe Classified.the current wave about to start shipping has>overkill>hydroviper>dawn moreno>airtight>cowboy mandon't be a retard
>>11811717>the line produces less figures per wave than before>okay, well actually they produce MORE figures per wave, but that's also a sign of the line dying in the same way that the thing I lied about
>>11811827>There was exclusive Lara merch in the past. I couldn't find any pictures of it, but I remember the TR2 game in the back of the booklet having an order form for stuff like a Tomb Raider watch, leather jacket, and other stuff that couldn't be bought anywhere else.that was before tomb raider was bought by square enix and then bought by embracer group
>>11811858I'm pretty sure that the remastered mega-boxed-set wasn't available at just any store.
>>11811860>what about this statue?>what about this deluxe edition of a video game?This hasbro figure will cost like 35 dollars and be on walmart shelvesI don't know what you're disingenuous and pedantic
>>11811864>and be on walmart shelves*and be on 10% of Walmart shelves as Walmart plays this game of artificial scarcity to justify their prices. And we don't know if it'll be a fat-packed boxed figure with a lot of accessories or a basic carded figure with only a few. Once again they've shown absolutely nothing.
>>11811033>Cold Slither sold out in the initial run. No that was the bullshit given when those now gone clowns were playing with the online stock fluxing shit between in-stock and sold out. They did that with most the exclusives of that year and even mainline stuff which was a massive mistake on their part when you are seeing shit like Flint "sell out" to then magically be back in stock and stay in stock not even two weeks later to then do weird ass chase variants a year fucking into it because the inventory just isn't moving. >>11811850HASLAB being canned has more to do with the oil situations going on. Even last years "12 day war" shock the system and the signs are there that things are going to get worse. Committing to a project that size when all prices from oil, to manufacturing to shipping, could wildly flux just isn't feasible for them, they can't just bump the cost up on something they already to money to make and unlike other companies like Four Horsemen they can't have enough left over stock to bump the price up to off set the changes. And I'll be real with you, this shit is over for awhile at least, and we might have much bigger concerns than not getting the latest collectable toy for the years to come.
>>11811866>And we don't know if it'll be a fat-packed boxed figure with a lot of accessories or a basic carded figure with only a few. Once again they've shown absolutely nothing.either way, dummyit's not going to be a con exclusivethey did not do this brand integration to sell 2000 units of a product for less than the price of a video game, profit which will be split between hasbro and the parent company
>>11811866>*and be on 10% of Walmart shelves as Walmart plays this game of artificial scarcity to justify their prices.It's more like half of them but it doesn't help if you are stuck in the half that don't get them, really looking over my travel all the places that got good stock was near the major distribution centers so people near those or on the coasts got easy inventory but I wager most of the ones that see nothing are land lock/fly over areas due to how Walmart and Target pull online orders from those centers first so the stock that was "planned" to go to those middle states gets shipped out from those online orders. Also there is no need to play that game of artificial scarcity where they have digital tags for the past few years, they can just set the price and play chicken with the collectors and we all know Scalpers and collectors don't have the best impulse control.
>>11811857>you're wrong that they're not just dumping as much as possible before retailers stop ordering product/Hasbro cancels the line and it's actually because sales have increased many times over!>now let's fire the design team so production slows down to a crawl if not outright stops>and cancel popular projects>also our karen marketer who once handled our videos isn't doing them anymore so we'll outsource those annoucements to random youtuber guy who works for internet cred All signs of a prosperous toyline, eh?Where's that fatty anyway? No one announced her being fired or her leaving, so she was shuffled away to another division?>>11811850We used to have shelf warmers when GI Joe was popular, so we cursed the fuck out of Winter Destro. But you know what? Winter Destro never showed up at Ross unlikely nearly every wave of Classified has shown up.>Hasbro didn't get rid of anyone.LMAO. Yeah, okay, and OJ didn't kill anyone either. Nicole Simpsons willingly killed herself because it was better than living and it was just a coincidence that her waiter decided to leave a 94% of his blood on her sidewalk the same day.No one wants to leave a giant corporation that offers a solid pay check and benefits every month, and instead go to nobody company that releases two products a quarter. The fact GI Joe's important designers left at around the same time without getting replaced is basically just Hasbro flaunting their bloody gloves in front of everyone and gloating how amazing they fit>Cancelling HASLAB isn't an indication of failureliterally is, because it's a super safe way to make a product. Aside from the prototypes, Hasbro spends next to nothing to get that shit going, because it's up to fans to get the production funded. It's 99% profit for Hasbro and no real downsides besides the time taken to draw attention to it.The fact that Hasbro canceled safe money and a major marketing event like that is a huge sign of trouble for GI Joe.
>>11811892prototypes are very costly anon and they have to pay everyone pitching the item as well as touring it around for that month or longer process. It's paying for advertising that could go to other things and as noted >>11811868 because have we heard of any Haslabs preorders rolling out this year?
>>11811892Address the fact that you said the line produces smaller waves than before.
>>11811850The Made to Order system also gives them way more wiggle room on what they could fit in that pricepoint. They no longer have to be collection center defining masterpieces of grand size and details, they csn just be cool but unique items that would be risky to offer to retailers. Retailers don't want high priced niche items, but collectors love that exact kind of stuff. So they can drop a mid tier item for the smaller percentage of people willing to shell out cash for these things and can skip retailer demands on package sizes and pricepoints and marketability entirely. Skip the middleman, sell direct to consumers and we all are better off for it.>>11811774They've wanted that for near 30 damn years by this point, that's not news. But even as an IP holding company they'll still put out figures because merchandising is the backbone of what makes an IP companies profits. Owning the IP AND making the merch is a double win/win for them.>>11811775Since the original Jem figure came with a full album of songs and sold over a million figures, Jem and the Holograms are technically a gold album selling band.>>11811908>>11811911Stop arguing with a professional moron, the only result will be more dumb posts of absolute non-sense.
>>11811908Prototypes can be costly, but thank god they had designers on salary instead of hourly wages, eh?well, not anymore, eh eh eh? Hence no more Haslab, hah!Also, most of the touring that they do they already were doing before. So instead of buidling cool dioramas like this at SDCC, they put out the latest Haslab, which draws as much attention and has a very high profit margin. Like i said, they treat haslabs as marketing for their toylines.>have we heard of any Haslabs preorders rolling out this year?Already addressed here >>11811066And i should note, that one failed Haslab shouldn't affect another. Otherwise the cookie monster and Rancor would have affected the rattler's haslab. Everything supports itself.Also, I'll comment about the price of oil and shit. Prices haven't gone up like when COVID and the shipping crisis hit. Yeah, prices are cumulitive, but if Hasbro were actually worried about like >>11811868 thinks Hasbro is, they'd be canceling other products too and shifting away from higher priced products.I mean, is everyone here a zoomer who doesn't know the famous story about why GI Joe went from being 1/6 dolls to 3.75" action figures? The oil crisis in the 70s made them switch to a smaller scale.And they did something similar in the late 00s, where they killed the Marvel Legends line and made 1:18 Marvel Universe as the main Marvel toyline, thanks to the great recession of 2007-2010 >>11811911i already did, retard. learn english.
>>11811958I do know english, and quite wellThat's why I see the incongruity between this: >>11811631>Either you're trolling or you're a crying bitch, because GI Joe definitely is such a poor seller they couldn't do full waves since the fans started to reject it with wave 1 was revealed in 2020.and this: >>11811717>The fact that they're including more figures nowSo, address these contradictory statements you've made
>>11811892>No one wants to leave a giant corporationThey do when the corporation decides to move to a different city with notoriously bad traffic and they don't want the hassle of commuting everyday.>oj simpson putting on his murder glovesThat's Johnnie Cochran. His lawyer.Anyone that was actually living in America in the 90s could identify OJ Simpson.
>>11811969From the post you just linked to:>GI Joe used to be a FULL toyline, just like Hasbro's Marvel and Star Wars lines, so getting 6+ figures was the norm from 2002-2013.>6+ figures was the norm >2021 - 2026>Classified waves of mostly 2 or 3 figures>sometimes 5 or 42 < 6+, retard3 < 6+, third worlder4 < 6+, retarded third worlder5 < 6+, retard who has no idea what these symbols I've been using even mean because you were educated in the third world>ib4 you use AI to explain it for you or type your post for youyou're not fooling anyone, because you can't even read english, retard.
>>11811979>They produce smaller waves now>They produce bigger waves nowYou said both of these things.Address that.
>>11811850>There is no vacuum of talent in their absence.>Here's arrogant YouTuber DAN LARSON to fill in on this month's Pulse Livestreams!I mean, I'm not going to sell anyone on the quitting staff's merits, I agree that most of them are interchangeable and replaceable.GI Joe is clearly on the downward trend. Hasbro moved to Boston because they got kicked out of town from the noise complaints of how HARD they were scraping the bottom of the barrel for characters.Honestly, what do you people THINK the longevity of this line looks like? And also consider the long lead times for shit they work on. If YOU were working at Hasbro, would you transfer over to the GI Joe brand this late in the game, where you might be left with not much of anything and could potentially be let go if you can't get in on another brand when this one goes dormant?Clearance sales have been plaguing the line, and now prices continue to go up and up past the point most normies have already given up. When the FINAL wave of classified, they probably won't tell you it's the final wave, at least not until preorders are locked in with retailers. Hasbro has shareholders, so all news is as rosy as they can legally get away with.Cold Slither would have been a full and complete sell-out IF it were done in year one when fans were still hungry for everything new. Fan fatigue is also clearly setting in. And Hasbro be Hasbroing with their conveyor belt of cranking out nonstop releases, woe to your wallet be damned, and you're more cursed if you collect any other Hasbro brands in addition.There's been good points, dumb points, and half points raised here, but every single sign is that GI Joe, at least Classified, is on the downward spiral and will likely go dormant before much longer, especially if prices go much higher. Some fans are just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, while others are at least keeping an eye on the lifeboats.
>>11811995>GI Joe is clearly on the downward trend.you said this 4 years ago
>>11811979Hasbro is doing 62 releases this year. That's more than a new release every week if they released something new weekly.
>>11811979>>11812004Compare that to 2025 with 51 releases.
>>11812007In 2024 there were 48 releases. If the line was dying, then they wouldn't be increasing the output with each year.
>>11812003>you said this 4 years agoI did not. I'm sorry you've so desperate to argue and that was the best your feeble mind could come up with. Maybe you should have your mommy tear down a wall so they can forklift you into some sunlight.
>>11812017no ... because ... uh ... the line is on life support, so they're ... spending more money to ... uh ... dump the stuff they still have to make ... or something ...
>>11812025>I did not. yes you did, but for objectivity's sakeyou said it ABOUT the figures from 6 years ago: >>11811631>since the fans started to reject it with wave 1 was revealed in 2020.
>>11812025hey you still haven't addressed this btw: >>11811982
>>11811051Oh it wasn't ghost viper that killed my excitement, it was once a man that gutted me. And then crystal ball, a legit childhood favorite and a constant on my wish list back when I was more active in these threads. It's obviously more than just missing out on a few exclusive figures that led me to step away from one the best, if not the best, American mass market figure lines going. I mean I've been collecting since the beginning, back when covid started and it was important to find anything much less so cobra island target exclusive figures. I jumped through all the hoops to get baroness, vipers, chuckles, Dr mindbender and serpentor and backed the hiss.....I'm rambling and adding to the wall of text but yeah man, it just got be no fun to follow the line and I decided to step away entirely and boxed up my collection. Hmu if you want to buy the whole shebang, I'm serious but I'd only sell it as a lot no cherry picking.
>>11812017>If the line was dying, then they wouldn't be increasing the output with each year.They're just trying to get as much out before ww3 starts.
>>11812017>If the line was dying, then they wouldn't be increasing the output with each year."Strike while the iron is hot". Its amazing how simple minded and retarded you are to try to put everything in terms of widgits shat out.Hasbro is trying to maximize draining their paypiggies as fast as they can. Retail is balking more and more, and more stuff is going to Ross & Ollies as the years go on. Character SELECTION is dwindling, and prices are going UP UP UP. Clearance Sales were MANY with older lower prices. How does your puny mind comprehend the new higher MSRP's will fare?Oldfags who've been around for the days when Hasbro would do Q&A's for fansites (Star Wars, etc) KNOW that they have explicitly stated that doing multipacks gives then a good cost savings on packaging costs that they USED TO pass along to consumers with cheaper deals or better pack-outs. 2-Pack Joes at now $60, so $30 per figure compared to their (current) base price of $28 per figure. What does THIS tell your feeble little mind?The long term success is NOT related to numbers of widgits produced. What happens after they get out the core figures that people want? Even at $4.99 the 25th anniversary line died out when this happened.
>>11812036>And then crystal ball,They restocked that nigga on walmart's site like 10 timesI ended up getting a second one just because it was there so I could have one in my my main cobra display and one in a spooky mystical freak display with the twilight guards and the ghost vipers (and soon the ghost creepers)
>>11812039>the line is dying>but also the iron is hotanyways, you still haven't addressed this: >>11811982
>>11811978>no one wants to work for a large company who pays great and offers many benefits, including help moving to a large city where there's actually shit to do>financial security is overratedokay, nicole simpson. So i guess it isn't a coincidence that your waiter donated his blood to your sidewalk, but you convinced stab himself 59 times his own hands too? Fuck man, do you even have a brain? You want to say that someone quit their job because they don't want to move, so why take a job with a company that also requires moving to the same state Hasbro moved to? You probably as retarded as >>11811982When MULTIPLE people leave at around the same time, from the same team, something is going up. Nevermind canceling the haslabBTW, have other employees from the Marvel, Star Wars or Transformers divisions left? ... and with a quick google, using the same keywords of "after:2026-01-01 hasbro ***** left" (***** is replaced with "marvel", "transformers", and "gi joe") every single result has Lenny and no one else... except for GI Joe. That other guy who left also shows up, but not fatty.>That's Johnnie Cochran. :O>>11811995> I agree that most of them are interchangeable and replaceable.Yet, no one has replaced anyone on the GI Joe team, despite requiring an immediately replacement if they were actually planning on releasing products 14 months from the day the GI Joe designers left.>>11812004exclusives are desperation moves. Someone posted a screenshot of my post from 2025 and my post after goes into detail about that. I mean, everyone knew shit was dire when GI Joe basically became a TRU exclusive after 2013 ("basically", because smaller shops also carried it but not big other big retailers)also also, i like how retards think anyone who even slightly disagrees with them is samefag.
>>11812039>the number of releases increases every year>Character SELECTION is dwindlingThe math doesn't compute. Are you that Jew-guy from Spector Creative? 2 - 3 years ago he went off with how He-Man was failing and was gonna get cancelled at any time because he couldn't find it at a local store. It's still going and new stuff is still getting produced with not even a flop of a movie putting it in danger of ending any time soon. You have a really fucked up way to take your local experiences, and assume that it's the absolute reality. A sample does NOT reflect the total picture. It never did no matter what bullshit the media does with "OUR SAMPLE OF 500 PEOPLE SAYS AMERICANS DON'T LIKE THIS OR THAT" bullshit.
>>11812049hey you still haven't addressed that you said: >>11811982
>>11812044>anyways, you still haven't addressed this:Because that is not me, you dumb retard. I'm bored on a Saturday morning and joined in on the discussion. You're the faggot who cannot handle discussions without user names to help you tell people apart, and you need to go back to plebbit.Yes, you dumb home, the iron IS hot, but the OPTIONS to continue the line is rapidly dying. I was very fucking clear in the post you quoted from but you cherry picked and ignored that. Every Joe line reaches a point of scraping the bottom of the barrel to where it dies off. When you consider the original ARAH line, when it comes to Classified, you have a huge dropoff from those who want v1 of a character to v2, v3, v4. The dropoff also depends on the price. And for those on the fence, the higher prices push more people away than they will ever entice.You're clearly a moron, you clearly have no idea of how to debate, and you clearly struggle when more than one person challenges you on your bullshit retard takes. YOU may be some kind of Ride Or Die faggot willing to buy every single thing they put out, but I've already GOT Scarlett, they cannot entice me with another Scarlett, and jacking up the price some more and bundling her with another figure is NOT going to get me to buy the upcoming 2pack. You really struggle with what other people are willing to do with their money, and you argue like a complete autistic moron.
>>11812061>the line is dying>that's why they're "striking while the iron is hot" and giving people so many options
>>11812049>Yet, no one has replaced anyone on the GI Joe teamYeah, genius, read on a little fucking further before you rush to post and you'll see where I pointed out nobody internally wants to transfer onto the Joe team because its on a clear downward spiral. Holy Shit dude if you want to insult others don't act just as retarded! Not even the most talentless hack wants to willing transfer into a closing department where they could possibly face unemployment soon. Learn to fucking read, shit head, before you cherry pick quotes.
>>11812050>The math doesn't compute.Only for YOU. You math like Terrence Howard and your anything times zero equals one borwn boy math. Again, you just cherry pick to try to sound like you know anything. You're legit retarded.HOW MANY SCARLETTS CAN THEY SELL PEOPLE? v1? Yes! v2? maybe? v3, v4, bundled at a higher price with another figure you may or may not want?Just shut the fuck UP already. You're arguing unrelated points despite the fact that He-Man and EVERY OTHER GI JOE line has DIED at one point or another! Pulling a He-Man WHATABOUTISM is NOT indicative of the health and longevity of fucking GI JOE you fucking insane autistic retard. Shut up with your stupid takes already.
>>11812050>The math doesn't compute.It computes, because the fact is, Hasbro is getting rid of their GI Joe employees and canceling GI Joe products.No matter how much you want to go through mental gymnastics, all signs have been pointing toward GI Joe's cancellation for years now.BTW, i wasn't even the first person to say that GI Joe was on life support. And despite you guys trying to pretend everyone who speaks negatively of GI Joe as samefag, there were other people who said that GI Joe was dead too.So a lot of GI Joe fans have been noticing shit has been going downhill for GI Joe 5 years ago and this year, HAsbro has finally joined in with the rest of us, but is personally strangling with their bloody gloves of mercyHopefully, they're only going to get rid of the 1:12 line and switching back to 1:18. Wishful thinking, but even if not, then they should stop cockblocking Hiya from releasing their GI Joe line in North America.
>>11812063There are only so many options you can give people before they stop buying is the fucking point you keep missing. And increasing prices also factors in. HOW ARE YOU THIS FUCKING DENSE?????
>>11812071They're not getting rid of shit. You're really twisting employees who didn't want to move into being an employee purge because you're a fucking psycho who somehow wants the line to fail.
>>11812063>HURRRRRRRRR>WHAT IS DA DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DYING AND DEAD??>WHAT DOES LAST DITCH EFFORT MEAN?>HURRRRRRRRR>I AM SO HECKIN SMAHT!>I BELIEVE IN INFINITE GROWTH!!!!!
>>11812069>HOW MANY SCARLETTS CAN THEY SELL PEOPLE? v1? Yes! v2? maybe? v3, v4, bundled at a higher price with another figure you may or may not want?How many did they sell? Do you have that data? The only verifiable sales data I can get is from the HASLAB backing numbers. So since you're such an insider show us the data.
>>11812078Thanks for shitting up this topic with your lunacy. It's not dying. If it were then selection releases wouldn't have increased for the past 3 years. This week there were two releases (Zartan and DIRE Night Creeper) that didn't even last half a day before selling out. The line's not dying no matter how much you throw madgasms.
>>11812079>How many did they sell?>PAST PERFORMANCE SUDDENLY PREDICTS FUTURE RETURNS!!!!!!>HUEHUEHUEBecause the upcoming 2-pack is somehow smashing records? You are one obtuse mother fucker. You have a mental disorder where you simply cannot admit fault. You're so fucking smart, you should be dumping your money into stocks because they are worth so much now and everybody buys stocks!
>>11812071>So a lot of GI Joe fans have been noticing shit has been going downhill for GI Joe 5 years ago and this yearThis can't be serious. You can't be serious. Is this guy serious?
It doesn't really seem like this is a place to talk if you actually like the GI Joe toy line huh
>>11812064Don't be dumb. There's no such thing as volunteers when it comes to working at a giant corporation. If Hasbro actually NEEDED a position to be filled, they'd ahve no choice.Like i said before, a giant company like Hasbro is basically running around the clock and has an extremely tight schedule to make thousands of products a year. They immediately need to fill in any spots when someone gets fired or quits, which means they'll have a worker already in line to fill in that space months/weeks ahead of time.Hasbro obviously didn't fire the entire GI Joe team, and even if they did, they can always borrow someone from another team for limited times, because someone still needs to oversea the work for the toys currently in production. It doesn't require a lot of talent to do that.
Numbers go down? proof the lines dying.Numbers go up? proof the lines dying.Numbers stay the same? proof the lines dying.Just admit it's a dead brand.
>>11812082>The line's not dying no matter how much you throw madgasms.Cool beans bro. Neither did ARAH die and neither did the 25th anniversary line die bro. ARAH was throwing out 7ft long playsets bro, that means the line will last FOREVARRRR!!!!!I'm done with you. You're really a special kind of retarded. Like a dog refusing to drop a bone.Why don't you, instead of being a contrarian faggot, PLOT OUT your wishlist of 80+ products that will ACTUALLY SELL of 80+ items going in to 2030. And no, shit like "the viper" who was a window washer doesn't count because they aren't going to spend the tooling money for a one-off deep cut like that, especially when Cold Slither couldn't sell out. Go on, 2027, 2028, 2029, 2030. 80+ items PER YEAR. Lets go, faggot.
I'm just going to close this tab now. The faggotry is beyond insane. SOMEHOW Classified is immune from the exact same factors that ended ARAH & 25th despite constantly increasing prices. Jesus Wept. Later, you stupid childish faggots! I wonder what landfill the Cold Slither packs will wind up in.
>>11812078>the line is dead>well, actually it's dying, so don't be surprised when it's over in the next 2 to 10 years!lmao
>>11812089 I love the GI Joe line, but some retards in this thread think that stating obvious things like poor sales, Hasbro canceling projects, and firing their employees means you hate GI Joe.Do you like my GI Joes? I play with them all the time.Also, it's pretty sad, but GI Joe General used to be drama free until it became 1:12 scale. Bringing in 1:12 fans was a mistake. Even mixing and matching other 1:18, 3.75" and non-Joe brands was welcomed in the old GI Joe Generals.
>>11812097Nobody doubts that the line will someday end. That's not the issue. That time will come, but doomsdayers saying every day for years and years and years across the whole life of the line that it is "dying" is hilarious. Might as well say every single toyline, ever, in existence EVER is dying because they will one day end.
Alright, off you go Subbykins. We accept your concession.Anyway, now that ESL sped is gone- I got Helix in today, she's pretty cool! Very good weapon storage and the arm blades are great. Nice headsculpt too. Worst I can say is some very minor QC issues (mainly mould flashing and a few stiff joints) but nothing unfixable.Also as weird as this sounds her elbows are great; they're double jointed, but you can actually get a pretty natural full bend with only the lower joint, and it's quite easy to use it to get specific poses even if you have to fudge it a bit for some pics.Anyway, great figure, glad I nabbed her.
>>11812104>obvious things like poor sales, Hasbro canceling projects, and firing their employees means you hate GI Joe.citation needed
>>11812104Nah, the issue isn't 1:12 people. The issue is 1:18 people screaming and crying for years on end that Hasbro isn't doing the same thing they had done for the nearly 35 years before launching the 1:12 line.Also, its hilarious when people start talking about price, when you can go look at most 3P and other 1:18 lines, and they're even more expensive than the 1:12 Joes, even after years of $2-$3 price increases.
>>>11812110 he issue is 1:18 people screaming and crying for years on end that Hasbro isn't doing the same thing they had done for the nearly 35 years before launching the 1:12 line.You're making shit up, dude.Almost all of us who have been collecting 1:18 don't want to see the same shit over and over again, hence Pursuit of Cobra being ne of the biggest highlights of the GI Joe. Whereas Classified turned into a nostalgiafag bitching right away because 1:12 fans wanted to see 80s shit remade for the 92th time. The rest of us are rightfully bored.Again, the fact that Hasbro needed to lower their sales standards for GI Joe since the Snake Eyes movie bombed and is finally killing it off from sales being even poorer is proof of how fans didn't want that shit anymore. The majority of GIJoe fans have stayed away, and newfags like yourself don't even come close to populating the GI Joe General to where it was even when it was a TRU exclusive in 2014-2016.>>11812106That poster wasn't me and i like how you want to criticize me for being ESL yet yoiu're obviously a third worlder based on your window. And i've seen your fingers, Rashid.And i know you learn English from me , considering how often you copy my insults to you.
>>11812036I've been collecting since the first wave too and the only figures I wanted but couldn't get are the original Range Viper and the Nemesis Enforcer, everything else was pretty easy to find with a bit of patience. Hell, I got many of the harder to find guys like Mindbender and Serpentor on their second runs, including some CI releases. The only figure I ever actively "hunted down" was the first Major Blood...and he got reissued a few years later anyway so it was kind of a moot effort. I mean, I can see wanting Once a Man and being frustrated with not getting it. It was a cool set, produced in way too few numbers and not something they're likely to rerun. But the rest were never really that hard to find as long as you paid even a bit of attention. I don't use social media or even own a smart phone, everything I got was from reading it's availability on this very thread and using a desktop PC at my home to grab it. Maybe it's because I'm not one of those people who "enjoys the hunt" so I never really put effort into it, but this line isn't any harder to collect then any other toyline out there so I don't see the issue.>11812061>11812064>11812069>11812073>11812083>11812078My god, each post is dumber then the last. Watching him spiral into full on sperg out isn't even entertaining anymore, it's just straight up sad.
>>11812125>yet yoiu're obviously a third worlder based on your window.NTA but that looks like any middle class back yard in east Texas, shitskin
Imagine spending this much time fantasizing about and wishing for the death of a toy line. I’m just right here collecting GI joes and playing with them all day long. My 2 year old son has really taken a shine to them as well. He especially loves the Vamp. Pic related, I let my toddler thrash toys you can’t afford
>>11812138I don't let my kid the room where I keep my figuresI do buy him stuff, but he's not allowed near my shit
>>11812125>and newfags like yourself don't even come close to populating the GI Joe GeneralNah, this is exactly what I mean about most 1:18th collectors being little slap-fight bitchbabies. I got back into GI Joe in 2007 with 25th Anniversary. It was literally what got me back into collecting toys as an adult.
>>11812142I like to pull them out in the living room and I’ll be damned if I’m gonna let him see them and not touch them. That would be torture. I also have a toy room / office but it’s a cluterfuck. I need to fix that.
>>11812138Based, just cancelled my pre-order for Hit and Run on BBTS that just hasn't been fufilled and bought him from Pulse, just to spite Subby.
>>11812083Which coming 2-pack? What are the records? Once again show us the data.
>>11812148Nice
>>11812144>dumb pretending because he needs to contradict shit he wasn't around fordo you even own any 25th figures?>>11812130Not with that style of window.Nevermind I know who that poster is, since I've made him post his toys before and since me am engrish a good, me can identify him posting style.>>11812138I can afford more expensive toys than you and more of them too (pic is just random shit i took outside). And i've stated this before but saying something like 2-6=4 doesn't mean i hate 6.It's just me stating the obvious that sales are poor and Hasbro would eventually kill the line if it stayed that way or get worse (and now they're finally taking the steps to kill it) and for whatever reason, it makes some crazy people REEEE the fuck out.I get that third worlders like >>11812106 know me from other threads, so they have a grudge against me and awnt to shitpost on purpose, but there's other people here who are way too sensitive about any negative comment. That sort of attitude was almost exclusive to import threads, but it's slowly leaked to other threads. GI Joe used to be immune, but ever since the Classified line started... oooof.
>>11812160>Not with that style of window.any style of window can be purchased in the United States from outlets such Home Depot or Lowes to be installed into one's home
>>11812160Post your Joes, no one cares about your random mishmash of toys
>>11812160>more expensive toys and more of them too First of all, just no. Not one toy in this photo costs more than a Vamp currently does so you’re already assed out. Seen this photo already, is it even yours? >World of Halo Mantis I have 6 of those I got for $4 each
>>11812176>Not one toy in this photo costs more than a Vamp currently does so you’re already assed out>currently doesderpThat doesn't count, dude. I could post my diecast 21st Century tanks or Lost Planet mech, which all "currently" cost more than your Vamp does, but that doesn't mean i actually spent that much money for them. And i doubt you bought it on the secondar market, considering I've seen you post your vamp since it was new. > is it even yours?Of course. there's only a single person on /toy/ who owns the variety of toys that you see in those photos and consistently in the same yard for a decade, and that's me. See >>11812104 ? Same yard. Same as when i take my SDCC loot photos every year, like pic related that's almost a decade old now. So you can't outbrag me on money spent or even the amount of Joes.>I have 6 of those I got for $4 eachI bought my first Mantis for 40 i think? My second one i bought for $20. Never saw them for $4. I could have bought more, but i don't like the idea of spamming mechs. They're supposed to be rare and powerful.>>11812165if you look closely, it does have Joe shit in there. It's almost impossible for Joe shit not to show up in my random photos ,because I constantly have them out, because I'm a giant joe fan.
>>11812176Yeah, they're his. He's the only one I've ever seen actually praise that Mezco Darkseid. Funnily enough if you pick through a bunch of those toys, most of them were eventually heavily discounted. NECA Goliath and movie Turts, the aformentioned Darkseid, the World of Halo Mantis, and on and on. Really gets the noggin jogging about how he chooses his purchases.
>>11812191I really like your mom's backyard
>>11812191>posting this shit in a GI Joe thread Ngmi
>>11812191Show us the Missile Command set up
Is this the guy who got mad about the Cobra Commander doll like 15 years ago?
>>11812208New one's up. Please don't ruin it with your arguing whether or not the line is dying.
>>11811875This is the exact opposite of my understanding of the games target and Walmart play. They want to use things like figure exclusives to force people in store hoping they will buy more stuff while there. That's why when online preorders get canceled i hear people blame stores getting more than expected. I even had Crystal Ball canceled for shipping and then I see him appear weeks later for in store pickup or delivery from store.
>>11812194That's funny you want to look down on me for buying my favorite characters just because they eventually get discounted after i buy them, yet you're in a thread where the vast majority of the toys get marked down to 75%-66% off at Ross and Ollies.You live in a glass house, Kevin, and it makes you sound like a poorfag that you care so much about their aftermarket value.>>11812203>not noticing two highly valuable GI Joe sets in the photosup newfag?>>11812205no way. It's like way hidden in a closet somewhere and I'll probably sell, because i never opened it since i bought it.I regret buying it. I only bought it because i was desperate for anything GI Joe, since Hasbro killed the GI Joe line the year before.I'm sure you guys have seen my military vehicle comparisons and none of the vehicles from these sets are in them, because they're also stuck in a closet somewhere. BUUUT, i took the figures out at least. Maybe I'll build the vehicles someday, but the Skystrikers are a little too big (I also own the TRU version) to have out.
>>11812225>never opened it since i bought itHow can you sell it without knowing whats inside? It could be full of garbage for all you know. >hidden in a closet>also stuck in a closetSo you’re just a hoarder
>>11812225people look down on you because you're an angry little autistic spaz
>>11812130I'm actually from England (which makes his accusations of me being "ESL" or "third worlder" especially funny given neither English nor the USA would even exist without us) but I wouldn't worry about it. Subjectanon thinks everywhere outside of his bumfuck nowhere part of Arizona is "third world" and he's got a retarded grudge against me in particular ever since I told him to post a Warhammer model in the Warhammer thread (which to date he has never done) and he was so humiliated that he throws a wobbler every time he recognizes me, and tries to get his "revenge" by pointing out that when I took that original photo my fingers had paint on them ('cuz that'll happen when you paint miniatures, not that Subby would know anything about that).What a sad, silly little man.
>>11812398I mean to be fair, modern England is kind of a third world country where the police kill you if you get stabbed.
>>11812409Point taken (unfortunate phrasing lmao), though at this point I'm not sure the first world even exists anymore. The US isn't exactly doing so hot either. Not even trying to cope either- I just hope things get better.On the plus side I'm in a pretty safe, rural and White part of the country. So hopefully I'll be fine and nothing brown will happen to me in time for Israel to try (and fail) to not technically build the Third Temple and not technically be smote out of existence.
>>11812240technically & spiritually, I'm not a hoarder. To be a hoarder, you need to be stacking unopened boxes blocking walkways/doors; i have plenty of closets in my house where i can still stack a couple dozen cubic yards of unopened shit still. To be a hoarder, you need to leave shit to rot unused; i play with the vast majority of my toys. You also need to have anxiety to get rid of unwanted shit, whereas I routinely give shit away>>11812163Based on what you can see of his backyard, the he's a poorfag, so how could he afford to buy European style windows on his American house? European style windows don't come preinstalled on houses as old as his... or is he such a disgusting third worlder that his house is rotting on a rapid pace?So, based on his ESL vernacular, memory of his posting style, and the fact he's in Europe, i knew that guy is Rashid and not some random texan who wants his house to larp as a chav's den (those windows are budget as fuck btw)If you used a little bit of logic, instead of just trying to act like a contrarian because you're angry I also used a bit of logic 5 months ago to deduce that Hasbro was going to start canceling GI Joe products and laying off their GI Joe team over, you'd also come to the conclusion that guy was an immigrant taking advantage of europe's social programs. Nevermind that guy has no problem showing off his brown fingers and is copying the insults i make to him, because he's still learning English. Its also pretty low IQ to think I'm going to be insulted by just throwing my insults back to me, because insults need to be even a little bit true to have an effect>>11812398see? He confirms he's rashid. And there's a reason why i dont call someone like >>11811995 a third worlder, despite him disagreeing with me, because he uses American vernacular and has knowledge American things, like GI Joe before 2016. He obviously isnt learning about GI Joe from these threads like >>11812398, so he obviously grew up in America
>>11812611>Based on what you can see of his backyard, the guy's a poorfagdon't go around calling people poor or nonwhites if you have no concept of how many white people in the US have a well above average income and live on giant rural properties you could only dream of that they don't maintain in any way whatsoever
>>11812615>technically & spiritually, I'm not a hoarder. To be a hoarder, you need to be stacking unopened boxes blocking walkways/doors; i have plenty of closets in my house where i can still stack a couple dozen cubic yards of unopened shit still. To be a hoarder, you need to leave shit to rot unused; i play with the vast majority of my toys. You also need to have anxiety to get rid of unwanted shit, whereas I routinely give shit awayLol, lmao even. That is the most extreme cope I've ever seen from a hoarder. I have hoarder tendencies myself but I at least am not in denial about them like you are subby.
>>11813121>uneducated third worlder doesn't know what a hoarder isI like how you want to say you're a hoarder, yet you can't afford enough toys to even slow down a fat woman from waddling around them.If my house were 2x smaller, i think my shit would be stacked up far enough to be considered hoarding, but then, it still wouldn't be considered hoarding, since i have no problem giving shit away. If i wasn't lazy about it, id also sell shit.>>11812616just because white trash and hillbillies exists doesnt mean that third worlders who can only afford 7 GI Joes, like Rashid, don't exist.His collection is tiny, almost like he bought it from Ross that can only get overstock from Rosses in the US, so old stock from 2 years ago.Also, i like how all discussion about Hasbro killing off their design team and canceling projects no longer matters, because oyu're too busy trying to insult me for stating the obvious: that few, if any workers working on GI Joe = little to no new products in the future. Not that it really matters, given how Walmarts and Targets have both started limiting the stores that get stock.If the Classified line is still around next year, it'll probably be as an exclusive, because it'll be dead in retail.
>>11814263>>uneducated third worlder doesn't know what a hoarder is>I like how you want to say you're a hoarder, yet you can't afford enough toys to even slow down a fat woman from waddling around them.>If my house were 2x smaller, i think my shit would be stacked up far enough to be considered hoarding, but then, it still wouldn't be considered hoarding, since i have no problem giving shit away. If i wasn't lazy about it, id also sell shit.I mean, whatever you need to tell yourself. If you have entire rooms dedicated to storing boxes in your home, you're a hoarder sweetheart. Cope all you want, there's a reason you live alone, and it's not just your off putting personality.
>>11814346>If you have entire rooms dedicated to storing boxes in your homeHoly fuck, i know you third worlders are pretty fucking ignorant, but did you just start living in the UK a year ago?They're called "closets." First world homes have a small room inside rooms dedicated to store shit in them. This allows us to safely store things out of the way, so it doesn't intrude with our going about in our homes.It's literally the opposite of hoarding if you can fit your shit inside these rooms.maybe one day I might have enough shit just to dedicate an entire room just for my toys, but it's kinda boring just to have a room to stare at toys and that would mean i couldn't have guests to stay over anymore.
>>11814400You're still not helping your case subjecthorader. And no, I'm not UK anon. Get a grip little guy.
>>11814403oh, so you're another third worlder without an education and didn't know what a "closet" is until i explained it an hour ago?Sad there's so many of you on /toy/ now.I miss when the internet before the smartphone allowed poors like you online.
>>11814463>everyone who thinks something negative about me is from the third worldlol
>>11814463>I miss when the internet before the smartphone allowed poors like you online.Holy ESL, Batman!
>>11814400Closets are for your wife's shoes anon
Throne orders are back up at most places
>>11807739Due to the backlash of Optimus Prime dying in TFTM, in G.I. Joe The Movie Duke was put into a coma as opposed to him dying while he and Falcon give each other handjobs as a sign of brotherly love!!!FACT!!!
