>>11814184
I loved this movie a lot, had so much fun with it. Skeletor was peak and I freaking loved the dream sequences, so funny. I think I'm gonna get the core He Man, Skeletor and Battle Cat. A shame we most likely will not get a sequel but I tell you, I was surprised by the sequel bait choices they made, I was expecting the Snake Men for a sequel not what we got as a tease. But usually when we get to that character the franchise kind of stops. Happened with every iteration it seems be it 200x, Kevin Smith or CGI.

>>11814188
Also, I'm surprised Skeletor had no origin story at all, he just is... the villain (and he loves it and I loved him for that). Was kinda refreshing. They made it seem like he was always a skull face guy.

Blade vs Tri-Klops vs Ninjor.
Who would win?

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Now that most of you lads watched the new movie, do you think the cancelled 2008 movie adaptation called Grayskull which was to be more serious would've been better?

Full script:
http://torquemod.com/grayskull-the-masters-of-the-universe-justin-marks.pdf

I'm also trying to find all concept art from that version, here's Skeletor (which has the gold skull mask instead of skull face, though it would be revealed at the end of the movie his real face was already decaying a becoming a skull anyway). I can't remember who was supposed to direct this, I think John Stevenson?

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>>11814190
>cast evil man with long black hair and facial hair as Skeletor
>Keldor doesn't seem to exist
Well that subverted my expectations.

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>>11814200
Here's concept art of beast man from 2008 film

Should've they called the film HE-MAN instead of Masters of the Universe?

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>>11814210
Call it Skeletor: Master of the Universe
Obviously "Adam's life is ruined by corporate wokeness and only Eternia can make manhood worth living" didn't land with Zoomers, so they should have left Earth out and gotten through the Prince getting the sword quickly to keep Skeletor on-screen more.

Just keep going to see it. Support it with your money. Show that there's love for the film.

>>11814191
Pretty sure Ninjor takes them handily. He's more versatile and has to stealth to let them fight it out. If they figured him out would either of them stop? Either that or Tri-Klops with range. Lasers > crossbow bolts.

>>11814200
Sounds like shit

here's hoping 200X keeps burning through figures. what have we still got left in the main cast?
Mekaneck, Fisto, Kobra Khan, Two Bad, and Stinkor are the last of the heroic and evil warriors methinks. Then it's all Snakemen, Evil Horde, and Marzo/Evil Seed.

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>>11814314
>Mekaneck, Fisto, Kobra Khan, Two Bad, and Stinkor are the last of the heroic and evil warriors methinks. Then it's all Snakemen, Evil Horde, and Marzo/Evil Seed.
No way are they going to count 200X Kobra Khan as an Evil Warrior. His debut episode had him never loyal to Skeletor for a second, but trying to speedrun to the King Hiss level of the dungeon.
His toy was packaged as a Snake Man too.

>>11814314
>>11814322
Yeah, Snakes and Horde are untouched but it's funny how every leftover character is somehow specific, maybe except for Stinkor - the only interesting thing about him is that it's only would be his second figure and first articulated 200X Stinkor.

Mekaneck - the last character if you want all characters from intro or just members of both teams from first story or first season.

Randor - Also from first story but technically not team member. Also technically had Origins figure already.

Fisto - only new member of second season, would have Snake Hunter logo randomly.

Faker - had 2002 figure but technically not cartoon character so very skippable.

Kobra Khan - Not really an Evil Warrior.

Two-Bad - vintage Two-Bad fans would lose their marbles.

I wonder what accessory some would have. I dont recall Stinkor or Fisto using their weapons.

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I dunno about you guys, but now I require TWO Goat Mans, Kargs and Dians

>The movie versions in movie Origins
>Golden book Goat, newspaper Dian and unpriduced vintage Karg in vintage Origins

>>11814398
>Kobra Khan - Not really an Evil Warrior.
And the Snakes think of him as not really a Snake.
Poor Khan.

>>11814398
Faker may be skippable but he’s pure reuse like usual so if anyone is getting made it’s him

>>11814432
The question if some specific versions of characters are required for Origins or if getting variants of them is good enough is something that keeps me up at night as I deliberate.

>>11814433
My headcanon was always that Khan would eventually betray the snakes and fully join Skeletor, when he realizes fully that freeing Hiss didn't get him the accolades he wanted and seeing how team Skeletor even jokes like Clawful and Stinkor are still treated like "one of the team".

>>11814448
>>11814432
I could settle for 1 karg. Goatman though... Dian is pure sexo but I don't think there's enough to draw from in the newspaper strip to make a worthwhile figure compared to her palace guard skin tight costume.

>>11814448
Here's how I answer the question:
Is cartoon Two Bad good enough? Do you even need vintage Two Bad?

If you answered no to the former and yes to the latter, then it's end of story. You don't get to tell the guy wanting GB Goat Man that movie is good enough for them, or vintage Catra that toon Catra is good enough for them and so on

>>11814453
At least include alt heads then...movie head, helmet newspaper strip head and "Prince Valiant" hair head

>>11814466
a CC design that sold out in minutes hardly counts, no, I want the vintage.

>>11814477
I'm not just talking about the Filmashit one that already exists.
They could make one more assortment of 200x and put a Toon Bad there (hypothetically).
How does that idea strike you? Same questions as above. If they did that, are you satisfied or still asking vintage regardless?

>>11814466
Makes sense I just prefer to have that that is idk...neutral? Detached?? Corporate? Not sure how to call it.

The point is that for example many people would like Rattlor with working gimmick and that's fair for each of them as their own opinion and preference as they choose how to spend their money.

But in the end there is no question that vintage Rattlor is done. He gets a checkmark as finished. Just as Man-E-Faces despite not having vintage design, Beast Man with closed mouth, Evil-Lyn without glowing in dark wand or say, Snake Trooper despite that he has wrong legs and weapon, I count them as done.

Or say how in Classics did POP characters or movie characters, despite that they could have more vintage-accurate designs.

But I don't feel like giving checkmark to Two-Bad. It feels like we're still need vintage design just as we needed vintage Mer-Man even though LOP Mer-Man was released first and was very popular.

And I'm not sure how far it goes. For example, most people seem happy with Queen Marlena without needing a new "vintage" design to match Randor.

So if someone thought it would be cool to have Karg in Origins to finally go with Blade, Saurod and Gwildor, would 2026 Karg be good enough


Before anyone asks, yes I am autistic.

>>11814226
If the movie was $200 million to make with an estimated (But unconfirmed) $12.3 million spent on marketing, and a current weekend total of $54.3 million globally secured that means every single person that went to the theater and watched the movie would need to go pay to see it again for the studio to break even, and every single person that saw the movie so far would need to watch it a third time or fourth time for the movie to make any profit. I'm not optimistic about those chances.

>>11814206
as neat as that looks, im glad cinema has taken a design accurate approach these days

>>11814531
What kind of MOTU fan are you not to see it multiple times?

>>11814200
>>11814206
I still believe it would have been better. Same with the Justice League movie they were trying to make around that same time.

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>>11814314
I just want Fisto and his big Fisto. Something other Fistos dont have for some reason

>>11814200
>>11814206
>>11814532
All of this looks like complete faggotshit and anyone praising these designs is just some schizo contrarian coping with how well the real movie has been received

>>11814200
No, while this current movie might be a bit too silly, that script was way too serious, and felt like the typical Hollywood adaptation problem of making an origin for everything where by the end of the movie it finally feels like masters of the universe. He man and skeletor weren't he man and skeletor until the finale of the movie. A lot of prominent characters were also killed left and right in that movie, like I'm pretty sure keldor kills evillyn in a rage half way through the movie.

Overall what we got is a better film for the property.

>>11814544
It's MOTU reimagined to fit within the confine of 2000's cool. It'd have been our equivalent to the bayformer films. Skipping over a milestone like that just to jump into the namby pamby social justice era of entertainment didnt do us any favors, even in spite of how well Knight handled the themes of his movie. I know there's alot of resident anons who despise the idea of edgy MOTU but I still want it. A movie adaption going off the tone of the early minicomics would have been great.

>>11814544
Bayformers Sideswipe is way better than the original Sideswipe, but im still sad there's no news for sequels for TF One

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>>11814559
NTA, but I cant shake the feeling we're on the cusp of another mass extinction for pop culture. Once the Gen X'ers hit retirement what's left of the toy industry and the boy's toy market will just continue to contract in size until nothing but maybe lego and hot wheels remain. Nothing's sticking and anytime a surprise success crops up the people incharge go out of their way to snuff the life out of it. Shit's grim.

>>11814571
Gen X’er here. I have the flowing that nowadays those corporations want to consolidate the boys and girls toys together for more non-gender conforming franchises.

>>11814531
Thank you for being realistic. This is a massive bomb. There is no way it comes even close to half way where it needs to be to break even. There is no sugar coating it.

In the previous thread when asked if any first films in a franchise bombed at the box office but still spawned sequels, people said
>D&D
Which is wrong. That film also bombed. Although it did much better than MOTU and with a smaller budget, yet still killed the potential franchise.
>and "several horror films"
But I honestly can't think of a single first horror film in a franchise that bombed yet still continued on with other movies. Horror films are rarely big budget like MOTU was.

>>11814571
there’s still 90s nostalgia to milk, but you’re not wrong

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>>11814191
>>11814259
How would they fare against each other in a sword fight, though?

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So, now that we've seen it, does anything justify this character getting figure?

I know he's been a bit of a meme since Rev paired him with Goat Man, but does anyone unironically think he'd bring value to the collection?

>>11814629
I felt bad for this guy, Skeletor was such an asshole to him

Also, why did Evil Lyn like Skeletor at all? He was always mean to her

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>>11814184
As I said last thread, not surprised they don't give Voltron a theatrical release even though it also has a big budget (close to $200 million like MotU) and the tone is also said to be more funny/comedic.

It also has Henry Cavill who is box office poison (just wait to see how Highlander will bomb).

I do wonder if MotU doing well on streaming will greenlit a sequel? Because Amazon is not a real movie studio after all. I mean, if they can do all 5 Rings of Power seasons they could do 2 more MotU movies...

>>11814556
I don't care, your opinion is shit and you are a retard.

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Some new concept art from the new movie features characters that didn't make the cut

>>11814648
>Strongarm

Fuck, I feel robbed!

>>11814629
I think they're just trying to make it up to the kid who got fucked over by the Cannon movie contest.

>>11814648
Oh shiiiiiit, if they'd done Fang Man I would've cum.

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You got your first ones figures, right? Will they do spoiler characters? I'd love all the 3 dream sequence Skeletor versions as figures.

>>11814648
Maybe they do concept art figures? Hasbro is doing some for their Studio Series line.

>>11814543
>>11814613

Indont know how to explain it but I've never been able to get into the new origins 200x figures because of how the original 200x toys looked. They dont look bad at all but they dont have that same charm something gets lost in translation
Anyone know what I mean?

>>11814648
These look great. Maybe we can get a Concept series. Would love one in Chronicles.

>>11814722
Some of the new toys don't look close enough to the cartoon, the old toys, nor even what we think they should've been. Even the old toys sucked, and not just because they were 5poa shit

Does anyone have warpaint Heman yet? I'm wondering how he looks in person.

>>11814633
>I felt bad for this guy
He looks like a diaper sniffer.

>Also, why did Evil Lyn like Skeletor at all?
She doesn't like him. She wants the power of a god, just like Skeletor does. But like most women, she lacks the strength and balls to take it by force. The best she can hope for is to attach herself to a man that can take the power... and then steal it from him by poisoning his drink. Skeletor knows this, and that's why he treats her like a dog.

>>11814766
>She doesn't like him.
Watch the movie.

>>11814703
At this point, we'll be lucky if they do Fisto, Dian, Karg, Evil-Lyn and Spikor

Cause that's the main cast, right? 9 good guys (everyone who was at the end) and 9 bad guys (everyone who was gathered to capture Randor, counting Skele-Knights as 9th guy)

>>11814768
Forget that, he doesn't know the first thing about women

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>>11814200
First and foremost it's a kids brand and while it can hold mature materials the story is bascaily the world of Conan the Barbarian with a Superman like protagonist, the evildowers are comparable to the villains and monstersyou see on a Sentai show. This means the more serious you make it the less it works like it's source and you get at best something like 2007 Transformers film where the things it holds to the original is the mostly a thread bare plot and their names to at worse 2009 GIJoe Rise of Cobra film where it has so little related it might as well just be a new brand.

I rather it be a film made for young kids and be silly than whatever happen to Transformers over the last 20 years.

I guess this is the last hurrah, eh? Wasn't MOTU always better in the shadow years anyway, away from normie eyes?

Guesses on who Adams friend from Earth is going to become in the sequel?

>>11814835
Faker

>>11814835
Stinkor, because his skin is the color of shit

>>11814835
theres already a drawing of Man-E-Faces in his room, so... Rio?
>>11814863
you need to be at least 13 to post here

>>11814200
>>11814206
I hate the recent, post-Endgame MCU output for the most part, but we owe the MCU a deal of gratitude for bringing us out of the GI Joe/X-Men era were producers were embarased of the source material (I know the black leather jackets are from Morrison’s New X-Men, they joke about “what would you prefer, yellow spandex?” and never got an accurate Wolverine costume until he joined the MCU) and now we actually get very accurate screen representations. I appreciate the creativity of them trying to “adapt” this stuff for their time, but a skull face character can actually just have a skull for a face. Beast Man doesn’t have to be a gorilla.

>>11814613
IT’S BEE-MAN!

>>11814633
Both times he “put hands on her”, she gave him a look like her “kitty was purring” if you know what I mean, so I assume that she’s just into that whole dynamic xD

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Have you guys heard the cope that the movie was basically just the tip of the spear meant to re-introduce the dormant IP to general audiences, and that Amazon wasn’t expecting it to do crazy numbers at the box office, but relying on streaming and positive word of mouth to re-establish it as a serious franchise? Because that seems to be the plan, here’s hoping it works out.

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>>11814835
I thought it was pretty obvious by the man bun he had at the end of the movie that he will be Jitsu. The joke will be that he joins the Masters but he doesn't actually have any powers or anything, he just took karate classes as a kid, but the Masters will provide him with a glove weapon that winds up putting him on par with everyone.

>>11814722
I am with you. They don't look bad or anything but they just feel like a cheap half-measure to try and please 200x fans while not actually caring enough to put them into their more collector oriented line.

>>11814920
im honestly holding out for Masterverse. If not that, ill have waited long enough for the CC to be discounted

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A reminder that your Queen is a hot piece of ass hidden behind that green dress. Sometimes she feels the need to remind you.

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>>11814629
I wonder if Imp and Pig Boy are the same species. Could Skeletor be raising a boy from Horde World as a hostage?

>>11814955
fantastic idea anon, I deem it canon.

-anon

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>>11814906
Do people really expect the studio who made the movie to speak honestly? Come on now.

They also strategically picked a stat that doesn't make this sound like an utter failure. Kids under 12 may have given it a positive rating, but look at the age demos that other trades are reporting. Only 4% of the audience was under 12! That's fucking terrible. This franchise is completely DEAD among kids. Getting so few young people to see the movie is virtually unheard of.

>>11814648
The artbook for this thing is going to be amazing. We're all going to collectively lament losses on par with the universal monster horde from the CGI series.
>>11814646
Then you can fuck yourself too cunt.

>>11814585
It's upto anyone's guess if they take that plunge, but if they do, they will undoubtedly tank the entire industry. We'll be sent back to the stone ages where the height of the toy releases we see will be army men and other standard fare toy fodder, at which point the dream of these sprawling realized toy universes just dies out completely. The 21st century sucks dick, man.

>>11814602
At this point I've accepted we wont even make mando money. It is what it is. Considering how poorly Bumblebee fared a decade back we should have seen this coming, and to be frank, some did.
>>11814610
It's too late to properly capitalize on 90's nostalgia. Every franchise that could either fumbled their chances (TMNT, Power Rangers, X-men) or is too far gone to even make the attempt.
>>11814629
I wish they would include him in as an unarticulated figure somewhere. Just a static preposed pigboy accessory for skeletor, that shouldnt be so hard.

>>11814639
I have higher hopes for his Highlander remake than I do his Voltron movie. God only knows how his Warhammer project will turn out. Not to mention MOTU atleast got a decent toyline. Since hasbro nabbed voltron I basically have nothing to look forward to regarding that mess.

>>11814745
Doesnt seem like he's hit stores yet but I look forward to grabbing myself one too. Same with translucent skeletor. Boxlunch already reduced a ton of their MOTU merch so now I wonder if we'll see the same thing happen to the toys elsewhere.

>>11814805
Always was. It's just depressing to see the last big push implode like this.

>>11814994
>Doesnt seem like he's hit stores yet but I look forward to grabbing myself one too.
A few have been seen in the US, but by no means wide spread as of yet. My Targets put out Wave 2 Core figures so I nabbed a few more Skel-Knights in a new color.

>>11814971
If only 4% of viewers were under 12, that means there's no kids buying toys either. So it's still the same old group, us older collectors, as it's always been. I doubt Mattel or Amazon will be impressed with sales of the kid focused toys compared to sales before this movie was out. This entire thing seems really unfortunate

>>11814879
>they joke about “what would you prefer, yellow spandex?” and never got an accurate Wolverine costume until he joined the MCU
I understand the point you're getting at but the reality is they still do that sort of shit even now. They've done it in everything from Thor to Superman. Even the "accurate" costume adaptions regularly depart from the comic designs they're said to be based off. MOTU 2026 did the bulk of the cast's designs alot of justice for the most part, and I appreciate them for it, but I really appreciate seeing how wild departures from the source material can get.

>>11814906
>>11814971
It genuinely wouldnt surprise me if they were that retarded. After all MOTU merch started showing up at Universal Studios recently. Maybe the suits in hollywood were hoping this would be the next marvel.

>>11814906
I don't think that is the plan. I think it's just marketers marketing. My guess is the push ends here and who knows what happens to the Chronicles line.

>>11815008
The Chronicles line will continue on in place of Masterverse I bet, just with classic looks instead of movie looks. They've got this new body from He-Man they can use as the standard buck for most going forward.

>>11815000
Always seems to be the case whenever there's just one or two figures from a line I want.
>>11815002
After watching it and following the subsequent conversation since I really had to think hard on when I last witnessed such a major disappointment, and I had to go back all the way to Green Lantern 2011. It's a fucking depressing time to be alive.

>>11814971
OK, but you’re being overly bleak. They release a bunch of content straight to Amazon, which doesn’t make them any box office money. “The Tomorrow War” with Chris Pratt cost $200 million dollars to make, just like He-Man. And that didn’t even have merchandise like toys to make money off. I highly doubt they just expected it to blow the doors off with Avengers level box office out the gate. The positive reception is better than anything. I’m inclined to believe them when they straight up say “don’t doom over the box office numbers”.

>>11814971
>Make a grimdark looking PG-13 movie that for some reason has laughs with Skeletor but all the promo material makes him look like a horrifying demonic overlord
>Expect parents to take their little kids to see it
I really don't get what Amazon was thinking
If they wanted kids they should've made this a brightly colored CG movie rated PG at most

>>11815008
But he’s not exactly selling a product at that point, he’s reassuring fans. I see the logic in it. It’s not just about getting every kid to see it, but how much each kid that DOES see it, likes it. That way they are basically making sure that there will be more of an audience around for future content.

>>11815015
He's trying to keep the future movie ticket sales from bottoming out and probably save his job. Reassuring fans just means "keep buying MOTU product" Corporations are always selling and marketing their product. They have no other purpose. They don't make these products out of the kindness of their hearts. It's always for money.

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>>11815013
Even the poster seems confused as to what it's selling. These visuals seem alot more fitting for the Goyer script than they do the Knight movie. Also, since I've been thinking about it for a few days now, did anyone else find the final fight between He-man and Skeletor very reminiscent of modern MK fatalities? Alot of the CG team listed in the credits to were jeets too. It all brought to mind that recent bollywood picture that copied, shot for shot, the Baldur battle from God of War 2018.

>>11815011
Don’t stress about it, dude. Green Lantern was widely hated. MOTU has really positive reception. It makes a difference. I mean, I loved it. And even if we didn’t get a sequel, we aren’t WORSE OFF for the movie existing. But I genuinely think that they weren’t delusional enough to expect a massive box office for this IP that’s been dormant for ages. Just kind of getting audiences warmed up to it again. I’ve been seeing a lot of posts on Tiktok blow up showing the final fight were people are like “whoa didn’t know He-Man was tough like that, now I have to go see it” etc. Regardless, we got a great movie out of it so I’m happy.

>>11815018
Badass poster though.

>>11815012
I agree Amazon sometimes blows hundreds of millions on movie projects, but MOTU was clearly designed with the intention to sell toys and get younger people into the franchise. A movie like Tomorrow War was never intended to sell products. It depends on if Amazon is just happy with this being a niche streaming franchise that doesn't get kids interested in toys and try to pivot it more toward the adult crowd now.

This feels more like D&D, Star Trek Beyond, or G.I. Joe Retaliation. All those had much smaller budgets than MOTU and all opened bigger, yet were all considered big failures. I'm sure Amazon was hoping to at least do better than those.

>>11815017
Yeah, well like I said, the Tomorrow War cost $200 million and released directly to streaming, making $0 box office. So I wouldn’t overly concern yourself with the intricacies of corporate strategy when they’re telling you not to worry.

>>11815019
Weren't all these toy lines and cartoons supposed to be what warmed people up for this movie?
The kids line that went with the CG cartoon, Origins, Masterverse, and briefly the Chronicles figures billboarding for the movie. The MOTU CG kids cartoon recently in the past few years. The MOTU Revelations and Revolutions cartoons for the older crowd.

Weren't these enough warming up?

>>11815022
If all their product sells out, I don’t think they’re overly concerned whether it’s kids that are playing with it or not. And the figs are top sellers on Amazon (which produced the film). I think Amazon has an inkling of what they’re doing. But we’ll see. I’m choosing to remain optimistic, and at the end of the day, the important thing to me personally is that I liked it.

>>11815019
>even if we didn’t get a sequel, we aren’t WORSE OFF for the movie existing
I think this is what gets murky. The movie will be considered a loss no matter what. If sales of the kids toys aren't good and all this extra product that Walmart and Target have stocked for the movie don't sell as well as expected, it'll also add an extra layer of stink to the franchise in the eyes of retailers. So hopefully the toys in stores at least sell through well enough not to make retailers lose faith in it too

>>11815027
yeah at least the Chronicles line is selling well so far and is getting great reception from collectors. Well deserved since they are very great figures. If anything this should maintain Chronicles as a viable collector line going forward after the movie

>>11815025
>Kids CG line, Masterverse, MOTU CG cartoon, Revelations
I think this just proves that kids were never the main audience and buyers of those things. With all that stuff and even the She-Ra cartoon recently, it's mind boggling how only 4% of the movie's audience was kids. The demographic info from movie ticket sales is the first concrete evidence on who is consuming this brand's products since Netflix viewer data and retail sales don't give exact demographic info.

>>11815025
>weren’t these enough warming up

I hesitate to comment, since I’m not some analyst. It seems like they weren’t expecting to make beaucoup bucks off tickets alone. That makes sense to me. I mean, I collect toys but I’m not usually a big MOTU figure guy, even though I think the OG cartoon is charming. This movie got me into collecting the Chronicles figures. Try not to doom about it and just enjoy the movie and figures.

>>11815036
>Try not to doom about it and just enjoy the movie and figures
It's easier said than done when a movie attempting to create a new franchise bombs this hard. Like this isn't just a little underperforming at the box office. This is a catastrophic bomb not seen for a major toy brand since maybe the Snake Eyes movie

>>11815044
Well, the tomorrow war cost $200 mil and “made” $0 on tickets. It’s just a different business model. Try to have an “outcome-independent” mindset.

>>11815044
And another thing; nobody LIKED Snake Eyes. Positive reception actually does count for something. I mean, I can’t guarantee this will end up with a whole trilogy of movies. But I would try and just enjoy it for what it is.

>>11814971
>Only 4% of the audience was under 12!
The pussification of boys has been going on since the 90's. Now they'd rather buy a cute Squishmallow than a masculine barbarian.

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>>11815056
The 80's was the pre-nut/orgasmic phase, and the 90's was the post-nut phase, which began in 1991-92. So we've been in this post-nut phase for about 35 years now. I'm beginning to wonder if we can still get it up.

>>11815126
I continue to see some online posit the 2030's will mark the start of much needed cultural reinvention. Whether it will be or not, we're in dire need of it. We've been stuck with ruins for about a decade now.

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>>11815052
I know you're trying to make a point and keep repeating that in this thread, but technically it did have a small theatrical release. Not a big deal but its just something wrong that kept getting repeated here

>>11815054
Very true. Snake Eyes was fucking trash. MOTU is at least generally likes by the few that did see it. I think the 'success' of the movie in the eyes of the studio may really come down to merch sales. Chronicles figures and the movie theater popcorn bucket items are selling well but hopefully the kid aimed product does too.

Speaking of, do we have any clue as to what the next wave or two of the kid Core line is?

>>11814943
Marlena is the single most underused aspect of MOTU. The fact that they consistently gloss over "yeah my mom is a highly skilled astronaut from another planet who crash landed here and hooked up with my father the king" is absolutely amazing.

You could probably make a killer romantasy novel out of that premise if you wanted to attract the millennial cat mom audience, though it's probably not a good idea, since the self-insert has to be relatable and Marlena is clearly an exceptional woman so she'd have to be redditified a bit.

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As the anon who was previously wondering how the 200X Cartoon Collection would scale with 6-inch lines, they honestly look great. Taller than SW Black Series but shorter than modern MLs and skews around Classified.

>>11814613
Nice shot.

>>11814722
>>11814920
I was skeptical when they were first revealed but they feel much nicer in hand. Honestly, if you're really missing that 4H level of sculpting and want something more, the 200X Mondo figures seem to fulfill just that. But for me, these genuinely feel like the 200X toyline I would've wanted all this time, like something I could happily pick up after watching an episode of the cartoon.

Teela's actress supports going through the backdoor

>https://www.instagram.com/reels/DZJkv06zjco/

>>11815019
>this IP that’s been dormant for ages.
the level of cope for this fanbase is insane

The he Man franchise has constantly been brought back every decade in the media with mediocre results to no success.
A toyline has been constantly on the shelves almsot every year since the 00s.

You're confusing dormancy with mediocre support and irrelevancy.

>>11814531
>>11814602
Sure thing blackpill armchair experts. Thanks for constantly posting your useless negativity.

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>>11815214
Right which is why there was nearly a 20 year gap between 2002 and the netflix cartoon, and a decade gap between 2002 and New Adventures, to say nothing of there being zero shelf presence in the aforementioned years.

You're not a faggot just because you're a black pill shill desperate for that gotcha moment to mask your insecurities, you're a faggot because you're a failure of a black pill shill.

>>11815242
the only person that's insecure is someone saying an IP is dormant to pretend that's why the movie failed
Let's list all the media and their year since they actually put it into hibernation after the 90s series failed:

200X TV show and it's Image comic in 2002 There were also shitty video games in the 00s.
The Dark Horse comics in the 10s. DC comics also got the license in the 10s.
She Ra in 2018
The shitty CGI show in the 20s.
The even shittier Netflix show in the 20s.
Apparently Dark Horse got the license again in the 20s.

It's no wonder it had zero shelf presense, despite the constant release of products, because all of the failed media. Kids havent given a shit about the series since the 80s.

Like i said, you're confusing dormancy with irrelevancy, because Mattel has been constantly trying to keep their IP on the forefront decade after decade

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>>11814910
We better at least get Dian in Guard uniform as an Origins figure with alt head. Be a good army builder to go with the Palace Guard

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Is there a better picture of 2.0 skeletor than this? Some guy took a screenshot of a social media picture lol

>>11814648
I want a Strongarm Origins figure

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>>11815299
>all this cope because the He Man movie bombed
Usually when someone talks about a series being dormant, they mean something where an entire generation doesn't know it doesn't exist, because literally nothing came out in pop culture.

Whereas Mattel has been trying to revive, and failing, to get He Man to catch on nonstop for decades now. Yeah, okay, after 200x's failure, they really couldn't get anything out for 6 or so years, but who even wants to touch that property when it proved kids didn't like it? Hence years of comic books, to try and get their foot in the door with the nerd crowd, and even that proved unpopular.
Then when DEI was giving out free money and TV/streaming was forced to air it, Mattel used She-Ra to gain traction with that, but all they got were teenage girls and virtue signalers who don't buy Mattels' toys. And who knows what the ratings were like for that, since streamers are ashamed of how few people watch their stuff.
I'm not going to comment on the cgi cartoon, because who the fuck even watched that?
Since DEI Was still giving out free money and steamers were still being forced to show that shit, Mattel had Relevations made but it was even less relevant than their comicbooks in gaining tractions with kids.

So Mattel has been continously tried with He Man to get generation Z and A to give a shit. That's 3 animated series, countless comic books, and two video games.

Pic is how much of a joke He Man was even with the nostalgiafag toy crowd, since Mattel was lying about their exclusive toys selling out to create FOMO, but all the unsold stock started showing up in a Californian overstock stores.

>>11815299
im from india (but Ive been in canada for 5 years so fuck off im canadian now) so why does it matter where I have come from?

you have no arguement. you dont even have a motu reaction image just frogposting and unrelated gifs. i bet youre too poor to own toys.

>>11815269
>>11815319
>>11815214
You seem really emotionally invested in this film failing. Care to explain why?

>>11815319
>literally nothing came out in pop culture.


I don't care what you guys are fighting about but there are tons of dormant IPs they tried to resurrect with toys recently for good examples.

>Street Sharks
>Insectaurs
>Roboforce
>Micronauts
>Bucky Ohare
>Biker Mice From Mars
>Cowboys from Moomesa
>Visionaries
>MASK
>Cops

Its kind of crazy how many there are. Im tempted to collect Insectaurs to go with MotU but I never figured out how they scale

>>11815196
>the 200X Mondo figures
I skipped those since I thought they would finally do some Masterverse figures after the Origins and now they cost an absolutely comical amount of money. They look pretty great though.

>>11815325
you sound like youre misinterpreting what someone is saying because the movie failed

i'm just reading this thread and noticed how insane some of you fanboys sound with your cope.
And you made yourself sound even worse by pretending Mattel hasn't spent millions of dollars to revive He Man with multiple animated shows and other media to two entire generations... just so 4% of the audience that Mattel aimed for to watch a movie that bombed badly in theaters.

And the guy i originally replied to was wrong about this
>And even if we didn’t get a sequel, we aren’t WORSE OFF for the movie existing.
You are worse off, because Mattel/Amazon spent nearly $200million dollars on movie that bombed. A ton of money was lost and it will also make the franchise radioactive, since people actively avoid failures.
And when i say "people" i not only mean potential fans and impressionable kids, but also media companies.

There's a reason why Mattel couldn't get anything expensive made until DEI initivitives were giving out free money. Before Amazon made this movie, there were also plans by Sony, and WB to make one. Netflix also planned to make a He man movie, but i guess they canceled that because they knew how bad viewership was.

>>11815341
You didn't answer the question, you just started stimming and repeating yourself, a sure sign of anger. So again: why are you emotionally invested in this movie's failure?

>>11815344
I'm not and your cope is unhealthy.

>>11815344
You sure know a lot about autism. Did you learn it from your tard wrangler?

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>>11815341
Are you really trying to convince part of the group that has been keeping he-man alive for decades that it's in bad shape?
No shit, Sherlock, we fucking know. We don't need a pretend Canadian to point it out for us.
Doesn't mean we have to like it. But we'll keep on keeping it alive long after you take your tourist ass somewhere else.
Now post some motu or fuck off

>>11815384
>Are you really trying to convince part of the group that has been keeping he-man alive for decades that it's in bad shape?
Considering how bad the cope was, it didn't sound like that.

>We don't need a pretend Canadian
wut?

And i wouldn't call myself a tourist, because He Man is the first toyline i remember being into back in 82 or 83. So i'm basically one of the very first citizens of Detroit, but i had to move away when it collapsed, rotted and became dangerous to live there.
The hobos and the mentally ill who have taken over the neighborhood of my childhood weirds me out.

Stop giving Subjectanon (You)s.

Buy tickets for all the yoots out there. Get them into sweaty muscle men.

>>11815269
Kids don't buy comic books, and they don't buy shitty video games based on ips they're not familiar with. And as you stated, the CGI shows were shit. So that leaves only the 200x cartoon. Well, that didn't do well with kids either because cartoon network kept changing the airtime with little warning causing kids to miss episodes. Also, the storylines were deemed too complex for kids 10 and under. But even if kids wanted to buy the figures, they couldn't find them due to adult collectors buying them up.

So now we have a movie based on an ip that kids aren't familiar with, so of course they didn't watch it. As for the few that did watch it and want to collect the figures... well, if they go to the store to pick up a Core figure right now, all they'll find is Skeletor. They're not going to stay interested in a toy line when only one figure is available to purchase due to the adults buying them all up as soon as they hit the pegs.

Motu won't catch on with kids again until the adults that grew up with it move on!

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Gym bro Skeletor figure when?

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This figure makes so much sense now, it will be sdcc exclusive, right?

>>11815294
here.
https://toyhabits.com/motu-core-wave-4-official-images/

I'd post just pictures but for some reason 4chan is being a real bitch whenever I try to send a picture.

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>>11815269
Your lame and gay gaslighting attempt hinges on MOTU toys being continuously produced in each era listed when every toyanon knows it wasn't. Christ boy did you even think this through or are you just an emotionally overwrought, salty bitch who is malding so hard that you can't even spend five minutes doing basic research? That's a rhetorical question, the redditor spacing, ESL fuck ups, and low-Testosterone in your bitchpoasts tell me everything there is to know about you.

>>11815346
>>11815355
0/10, even your samefagging is lame and gay
>>11815344
Because he has nothing in his life and cannot stand the fact that people are happy, that's why. He had the choice to do anything else to improve his life, but he chose to be bitchmade instead.

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>>11815143
>do we have any clue as to what the next wave or two of the kid Core line is?
Milk-Dud-At-Arms and Pantyhose He-man are up next.

>>11815468
>the 200x toys sold too well and the cartoon was too good, so it failed
lmao wat
You really can't blame 200x's failure on CN, when other series were actually successful (GI Joe cg movies, teen titans, young justice, etc) despite CN also giving them the run around too. Series like Young Justice was super fucked over, yet because kids actually liked it, the ratings weren't. Events like the sudden removals (CN was sabotaging WB at the time) got people angry enough to flood CN with demands to get it back... 3x.
So if kids actually liked 200x, it would have had a larger following than it did.

And it doesn't sound like you were actually alive when 200x came out, because the consensus back then was that Mattel had no idea what kids wanted in a toyline. The fanbase (with a surprising amount of kids online) was bitching that Mattel had outdated ideas for what boys wanted, because they made nothing but hemans and skeletors, instead of the more interesting side characters.
When the line died, there was lot of rejoicing and spitting on mattel, because of how bad they were. Sound familiar?

>Kids don't buy comic books
Sure they do, just not superhero shit, but in the 00s, they were still fairly known. So kids had some knowledge about GI Joe or TMNT, at least enough to be recognizable. Most people here on /toy/ who talk about comic book only characters aren't 45-55 year olds (i am) when those comics began. Most of them are under 35, and since most of us collect shit from our childhood, it only means that they read those comics when they were kids: 90s and 00s.
Can't say i've ever seen anyone talk about the HE Man comics unless it was the 80s shit though. I remember seeing some excitement about the DC stuff from a decade ago, but that was like for what seemed like 3 months.

>So now we have a movie based on an ip that kids aren't familiar with
there were three animated series in less than one decade. Mattel is ultimately to blame for allowing unpopular shit to be made.

>>11815214
I will say personally the other cartoons haven’t interested me. The original is charming, but not enough for me to get the “origins” style figures since I didn’t grow up with that. I collect figuarts and other adult oriented collectible figures. But I liked the movie and now collect the Chronicles line. I’m not usually in this thread, so I can tell you the movie has attracted new people.

>>11815541
oh, no doubt, there will be people who like it, but the vast majority of people aren't like you. especially not kids

i've held off on buying shit because i know it'll end up at Ross.

>>11815537
I'm not autistic enough to go back and forth with you on this, but I will say this:

Kids would rather be playing video games than bashing pieces of plastic together, and the figures can't be found in stores because adults grab them as soon as they hit the pegs, and that eliminates parental impulse purchases.

So cartoons and movies don't make much difference when kids either aren't interested or can't find the product in stores.

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>>11814184
>actually put in the effort to put MOTU stuffs in the movie, featuring may MOTU characters doing MOTU stuffs
>still manage to pull a Surf Dracula ending.
HOW?

>>11815582
OK, but he transforms 30 minutes into the 2-hour movie. He only started calling himself “He-Man” at the end. But he’s still doing He-Man stuff the whole movie. So it’s not the same. Re-read the Surf Dracula tweet you posted.

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>>11814217
>Adam's life is ruined by corporate wokeness and only Eternia can make manhood worth living
That's not the story of the movie at all.
Damn, the story has a whole bit about Adam having to deal not being enough of a man to his father. The movie has literally "Boys don't cry" at the beginning.

One of the first thing Adam do that is really helpful is recognising the actual worth of Roboto and telling her she is more worthy than just being some maid.

The movie IS woke (non-derogatory) and even his professional knowledge of HR is meant to be an asset for Adam (though the movie doesn't do a really good job of communicating that, but it's clearly the intend)

>>11815589
>But he’s still doing He-Man stuff the whole movie.
That's the point of my post:
Despite of that, it still feels like one.

Do you remember what it was like...before? When people were just happy and joyful about Origins and how it brought a twinkle to their eye?

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>>11815242
There is this really strange overlap of MotU and UY fans. It's super weird!

>>11815574
you were talking about kids in the 00s. Kids were very much into toys back then (phones didn't really take over until the mid-10s, btw).

If the 200x toys were actually selling that well, they wouldn't need the cartoon in the first place. Shit like GI Joe sold really well from 2002 til 2006 with just two animated direct to DVD movies to push sales.
Then the 25th line sold extremely well despite Sigma 6 bombing 1 year before and no other media until the movie came out 2 y ears later. ... well, that's a lie, because maybe the comics pushed sales that much? The comic packs were very popular too.

So i think everything about the 200x series was an overall failure. I vaguely remember liking it, but kids obviously didn't. The toyline was hated thanks to Mattel fucking that up.

I think Mattel really fumbled He Man, especially since they didn't play up the fantasy aspect when fantasy got popular in the 00s. They really fucked it up in the last decade with the DEI shit. So kids have wanted nothing to do with He Man, despite Mattel constantly trying to push it to them for the past 25 years.

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>>11815536
I really cant wait to get this guy and Conan Adam. They both just look so great.

>>11815671
>I think Mattel really fumbled He Man, especially since they didn't play up the fantasy aspect when fantasy got popular in the 00s. They really fucked it up in the last decade with the DEI shit. So kids have wanted nothing to do with He Man, despite Mattel constantly trying to push it to them for the past 25 years.
Yes to every word of that. Hell most regulars around here copped to that much when Origins was first starting out.

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Oh boy /pol/ tourists shitting the thread up with their stupid bullshit.
This is a damn toy thread not a place to discuss your political ideologies. Talk about MOTU toys or fuck off to somewhere people give a fuck about your stupid shit.

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$7 for masterverse Faker on BBTS makes a decent custom.
>>11815649
this is weird, I also love UY. Maybe because both are cozy cartoons with very pure-hearted characters.

>>11815808
>>11815807
>>11815744
this is a he-man thread, thanks

take it to pol retards

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>>11815735
The heads are compatible? that could work to make a more accurate savage He-man

>>11815884
They more or less are, yeah. I've got that masterverse savage heman too. I mean to try making an origins King Grayskull with that one's head eventually.

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>>11815926
I used savage he-mans head to make my masterverse king grayskull custom. It does a decent job

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I was surprised by how much I found Dian's action stuff a standout in the movie, so it follows that she was played stunt actor (who's played Wonder Woman and Lady Deadpool in recent movies). Really glad she got to be a legit character in MOTU and I'm totally buying a Dian figure if they make one.

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>>11815951
>played BY A stunt actor

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>>11815537
You not engaging with any of the posts that call out your faggotry means you're winning the argument, I promise anon.
>GAIZ HEY GAIZ I AM DEFINITELY AN OLDFAG TRUST ME GAIZ
Christ you're desperate
>All those ESL errors
And brown
>When the line died, there was lot of rejoicing and spitting on matte
The voices in your head are not a citation
>Sure kids buy comics
Holy shit you really are a drooling retard, go tell that to DC barely scrapping by with Batman at 20K per issue while kids eat Demon Slayer with a silver spoon
>there were three animated series in less than one decade
There's been two dipshit, one is what we call in English a 'sequel', with the same production staff. Kids liked the CGI show but the toys were lowly 5poa and did not sell, hence why that line was cut.
>>11815671
Right which is why no toyline has had a cartoon since 1982, every single one of them became instantly popular on its own.

>>11815504
Thanks I love transparent toys so much. I wish I had that old clear origin Skeletor. I was thinking about getting the CC origind one but his crotch isnt trandparent which bugs the shit out of me lol. Definitively picking this guy up and any other weird repaints.

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>>11815611
I was here since /toy/ was created.

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>>11815471
HR Skeletor first

>>11814184
>watched the movie
>10/10
Holy shit why is doing so bad

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Mondo Clawful a beauty. Very happy with this big sumbitch.

>>11816124
Man I just came here to see transparent skeletor and scrolled up and holy christ

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>>11816141

>>11815471
This is the Skeletor variant I'd want most. The one that's coming is probably unfortunately the one I'd like least.

>>11816141
God damn his sculpt and design is amazing. I wish I could afford Mondo. Kinda tempted to at least buy some CCs now.

>>11816143
Clawful? More like Clawesome.

Japanese twitter has learned about Masters of the Universe and it's a fascinating thing to watch

https://x.com/kingink_/status/2061089045976162537

One of them compared the Filmation cartoon to Fantastic Planet and I'm not sure how to feel about that one

>>11815954
>Those long legs
I need her figure on chronicles

>>11816141
>https://x.com/kingink_/status/2061089045976162537
>>11816143
>>11816145
>>11816149
Clawrious even

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Found this today

>>11815611
Yes, it was peaceful time..
Then came the Snakes..
I'm partially kidding, I do like the snakes overall, they simply need to finish Vintage and get us other characters though

>>11815611
>>11816211
I think the hype disappeared with vintage from retail.

I still buy them from MC but it just doesn't feel as fun as randomly finding Faker in your local grocery store of all places.

>>11816206
My Ross had a bunch of Battle Armor Origins Skeletor and Eternia Minis.

>>11816217
I know the Mini sets were showing up for $10, what's the BA Skeletor run?

>>11816233
$15

>>11816233
Damn, why can't they dig up TP Hemans and King Hiss and send to ROSS.

>>11816152
>One of them compared the Filmation cartoon to Fantastic Planet and I'm not sure how to feel about that one
It's praise, because despite barely being animated, there was still a lot of quality talent when it was animated. Lot of great artistry in the cels and backgrounds.
Despite looking budget, He Man was actually one of the most expensive productions at the time, because it was still being animated in north america. So there was a lot of talent, but not enough money to pay them to fully animate it.

If they had compared it to some Hanna Barbera cartoon....

>>11816315
I'm not sure HB cartoons were ever that well known in Japan, outside of Wacky Races.

And yeah I guess I can kind of see it. Eternia clearly has a lot of really surreal landscapes that aren't that dissimilar from Fantastic Planet. It just feels like such a bizarre comparison because Fantastic Planet is kind of high brow and MOTU is very much not.

>>11816344
>>11816315
Also somebody discovered this old Bandai toy that kind of has the same ethos as the Dragon Walker.
https://x.com/nagasapa/status/2062387051920818214

>>11814629
In a two pack, he'd be fine. It's always good to have a sniveling underling to server your evil overlord.

>>11814639
Wait, this is actually a thing? I figured they'd see how MotU panned out before doing a different 80s franchise live action reboot. Voltron has no shot at being a good film, especially being a giant robot film as NO ONE in Hollywood knows how to do them right....outside of Del Toro.

>>11814703
These look pretty good for the "Kiddy line" figures, if I was a kid I'd love these. Hell I might still pick up the mooks because they're kinda cool and it's always nice to have extra fodder around for the heroes to pick on.

>>11814796
The first Paw Patrol movie had better dramatic tension and character depth then this film. Just because it's a "kids brand" doesn't mean it has to actively be stupid.

That said, you can't make that many jokes about Fisting and still go "it's a kids movie bro!". This movie was made for 40 something nostalgia fags and was a film that was *deeply* embarrassed by itself. This film relied entirely on cringe humor and references to better films and franchises...including the original MOTU movie...and it felt like no one outside of the character and art design departments actually liked the franchise. If a film, even a funny one, can't treat it's characters seriously, then neither will the audience.

>>11815018
I actually mentioned that this was ripping off Mortal Combat when Heman finished off the one goon by uppercutting him off a balcony. That was before the X-Ray combo scene at the end, so yea it was clear what inspired that scene.

Which was awful, no better way to show that your hits don't actually hurt then to slow them down at impact and then have the guy you hit just kind of shrug them off.

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>>11816345
Hanna Barbera shit is probably as well known in JApan as in America, because most of the cartoons were dubbed in Japanese when they first came out in the 50s-70s, and a lot of them were redubbed again when they started showing them on Japan's Cartoon Network.
Like America, Japan relied a lot on syndication, so they reran that shit for generations, nonstop.

I'm honestly surprised that He Man isn't well known in Japan, given how huge it was everywhere, yet the American-centric GI Joe cartoon and toylines was actually popular there.

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>>11816397
>yet the American-centric GI Joe cartoon and toylines was actually popular there
Nah

Like it was more popular than He-Man but not by much, RAH has enough of a following to warrant one of these but it still didn't last longer than two years, the dub of the cartoon got cancelled and it still made more of an impact than MOTU did.

American toy companies have always had trouble breaking into the Japanese market because of their strong homebrewn scene.

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>>11816415
>Like it was more popular than He-Man but not by much
that's the thing... if He Man was even shown in Japan, it's like it got trapped in an early 80s black hole. I can't find anything about the He Man japanese dub or it airing, and i've never seen any japanese packaging for OG He Man toys.

And GI Joe was popular enough in japan that Japanese toy shops kept importing Joes after Takara stopped official distribution. So a large enough fanbase kept wanting it. There's a reason why the cartoon movie and arcade game was still released in Japan, years after the cartoon series and toyline were stopped. So it makes me wonder if it was syndicated after they stopped making new dubs too.

My aunt used to live in Japan in the 80s and 90s, and she used to ask me all the time if i wanted GI Joes, since she knew i was a huge fan. I needed to remind her thsoe joes were the same shit i could get in the states and actual japanese toys/models were a hundred times more difficult to get. So it seems like they had a fairly big fanbase if multiple shops were carrying the line decades later.
... and now I feel sick, knowing she didn't tell me about what else existed in the shops and what i didn't know about to tell her to get me, because smartphones didn't exist back then and she couldn't take photos of everything she saw. I probably missed a whole lot of expensive rare shit that wasn't even excpensive back then (most shit wasn';t even expensive until the past 5 years thanks to COVID streaming/post COVID tourism). Being a weeb in the 90s was hard.

Movie was great. It was what I hoping the Transformers and G.I. Joe movies would be. Just the cartoons translated to the screen in live action. I don't normally do this but I think I'm going to see it a second time.

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>>11816434
>and i've never seen any japanese packaging for OG He Man toys
Evidently the Super 7 releases were a homage to the Japanese packaging, but it's pretty telling that the ONLY pictures I can find of ANY Japanese packaging for MOTU are the Super 7 ones.

I can buy GI Joe carving it's own niche in Japan since they have military otaku, and also that the line would not survive there once they abandoned the realistic military themes for that exact reason

>>11816136
Needed more Teela ass. I salute the costume designer making her wear white pants to make sure we could enjoy it

>>11816469
I disagree. Too many dialogue scenes, and the other Masters don't get enough screentime. I enjoyed when things got silly though. I do want to watch it again because I didnt understand every word Skeletor says

>>11816470
if i wasn't an oldfag who's been using the internet since 1994, i'd say you can't find shit because the internet is dying and google being fucked.

I've been going to collector sites for over 30 years now. I've witnessed the best archival, comprehensive fansites being build themselves up over years and then die a decade later, so i definitively doubt that He Man was ever officially released as a cartoon and toyline in Japan

Maybe they did some vintage remake shit released over there in the 00s or they're based on mockups to convince japanese companies to carry the show/toys

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>>11816470
I had someone from Japan who collected origins on my twitter but I cant find him anyone. I follow so many people on a 13 year old account and all the japanese characters blend together.

I found non super7 box art on my pc then went to find it again in bed on my phone and an entirely different set of images that dont have the japanese boxart shows up. Google is fucking bizarre now. I found a catalog though.

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>>11816548
Here is a pin

https://x.com/muuseo_sns/status/1173219917669306374

Heres a source and info on that catalog

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Alright so what I think I figured out is that those white boxes were prototypes for Japan's short lived Heman release and somehow people got a hold of those white boxes and they are super rare and they . Super7 and Google ruined everything.

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>>11816563
I went back on my pc.

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>>11816547
ok, that would explain why i never saw anything, because they basically bought stock from Canada to sell at a single store and slapped a sticker on the back to test out whether japan had any interest in them.

Super rare and identical to the american releases.

Also, you're right about google being weird. this https://ideas.fandom.com/wiki/He-Man_(Japanese_Anime_Series) wasn't appearing in my search earlier and it's weird gibberish too. IT's almost like google AI created it to make it seem like its internet search isn't practically worthless now.

>>11816547
>>11816563
From what I've been able to gather, the white boxes were prototypes from a planned collaboration between Mattel and Bandai that fell through.
According to the below link, the figures that did get released in Japan were the regular Taiwan manufactured figures with a sticker on the back of the cards. They were distributed by Takara.
https://motuvintagevariants.com/pages/motu-variants-101-an-introduction-into-the-world-of-masters-of-the-universe-variants
And the org has scans of the Japanese catalogues.
https://www.he-man.org/takara-japan-catalog/
It seems like only the first two years of figures got released.

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>>11816570
>IT's almost like google AI created it to make it seem like its internet search isn't practically worthless now.

I tried looking for old Heman sites with before:2000 trick and I got an actual LA times article that had 0 to do with Heman but had the description regurgitated text from a synopsis for the new movie.

I found this fanart on japanese twitter which I thought was funny considering how fucking confused I am right now.

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>>11816575
*actual 90s

>>11816573
>>11816570
Holy shit thank you. This was driving me crazy. At least I have a bunch of strange japanese memes out of it.

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I don't know what kamen america is but the official account tweeted this

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>>11816581

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Finally got around to opening my last masterverse figures. Sorry for the shit quality pic, all my pic stuff is inaccessible. Anyways before these waves up to dispara the recent waves have had a dramtic drop in quality with gummy plastics and just low quality. Low enough that as a mainly masterverse collector I was kind of not too upset about masterverse kind of dying. Especially since chronicles seem to be pretty decent, if not a tad too loose. But these figures here seem to be pretty well made and makes me sad that new eternia is probably dead.
I doubt we see any masterverse after the last few planned vintage figures drop. So I'm sure after that we'll see the full switch to chronicles.
Thanks for attending my Ted talk

Chances of the sequel being made despite the first bombing? I mean Mattel is pushing the franchise to be popular again moreso than ever.

>>11816495
>>11816469
Movie was good, it reminded me, music and feel wise - of Flash Gordon. Very music forward in a good way and think many people will like that - in the same way they do the Queen soundtrack.
Also think Amazon guy is correct in his spin - movie will live well on Prime. I've often had a short-term holiday account - and barely thought to watch any of their streaming crap.
Even things I can't legally watch any other way, like Roadhouse.

>dialogue scenes
>other Masters
>enough screentime
They could have cut down Man At Arms sad drunk/dungeon and definitely cut out five other Idris Elba lines to add one or two more for each of them but I honestly wouldn't have cared.
Completely cut Dian's role but that would have made the Masters even more of a sausage fest.
Most of the Evil-Lyn Skeletor stuff since it doesn't pay off, but otherwise the movie is very compact with little bloat.
Roommate, probably but I otherwise liked all the earth stuff.

Another 4-8 minutes to the movie wouldn't have hurt - they should have made some of the masters be some of the other children in the movie.

>>11816136
My Uber driver tonight and GI Joe friend in Albany, I was texting right after the movie, this afternoon, both wanted to see the movie 'but not in theaters' because others were 'talking them out of it'
Albany guy thinks his kids would enjoy Scary movie 'better.'

>>11815951
The fight scene was good but that was a part of the movie where it flaws showed - this same group of people LOSE at the start, causing plot.
But less of them, without army and with far less citizens, beat people who originally defeated them - who still have their army.
The could cut 3-5 minutes at beginning - giving a 30 seconds 'it's Havoc magic' causing original defeat plot instead.

>>11815582
>>11815595
NTA but you worded it awkwardly in the first post.
ALSO, it's pointless to engage with people who pre-judge and clearly false flag or otherwise make BS nonsensical takes to "win" their arguments and "make" their points
These people don't care about the truth, they care about what they perceive to be 'winning.'
And for their perceived 'woke/DEI' reasons, He-Man 'bombing' is it.

>>11816598
They spent almost $200,000,0000 on a movie that is unlikely to get half of its money back.
They also spent almost $100,000,000 on marketing, because that's usually how much they spend to advertise a movie and they'll enver get this money back.

And what's the point of even making a sequel for a movie that nobody watched or that people hated?
IF they want to sell toys, if anyone is stupid enough to make another movie, they want to make something that will draw in people. it'd be dumb to use the same actors/charcters/story.
The next movie needs to be completely new.

So the chances of a sequel is 0%, unless the Amazon CEO is gay for the director/writer/actors.

>>11816598
>it reminded me, music and feel wise - of Flash Gordon
It reminds me of the 80's tv show, Greatest American Hero. A wimpy guy is suddenly given the powers of a super hero. He tries to fly and crashes into buildings, but it's okay because he's nearly invincible. But when his ass is on the line, he rises the occasion... then goes right back to being a goofball.

>>11816760
They're making sequel to Tommorow War that bombed even worse and surely didn't sell as much merch.

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>>11814217
I'm torn apart, should I get 200x He Man and Skeletor or First Ones versions? I loved the movie so I guess movie versions would be the go to but dunno if First Ones are good. No interest in Chronicles for me.

>>11816760
>internet was a mistake
It's pointless to argue with people like you, since you'll just double down and waste time and bandwidth on things you pre-judge and determined on the most minimalist bits of information.
It's why the public at large learning about discussing things like ratings and box office is as stupid as people discussing polling and campaign donations for elections

If your entire argument rests of "getting money back" - there's just so many things people like you don't realize, such as the value of tax write-offs and losses to businesses, much less how a company like Amazon, which had over a decade plus of not being profitable, much less being a money-losing proposition, but still being viewed as a huge billion dollar value proposition as a company itself.

it's just honestly not worth arguing with someone like you
especially because no one is going to value or listen to opinions like yours as far as making or not making more toys, a sequel or not making a sequel, or a 'next' 'completely new' movie or no movie or literally about anything --
other than perhaps how many bullets you should put in your head

>>11816834
>it's worthless to argue with you because you don't say exactly what i want to hear
Yeah, okay, movies don't exist to make money and a toy company totally doesn't want a new generation of kids to buy their toys by being excited by their He Man movies, because the new HeMan exists just to be a tax write off and that 93% audience of 35+ year olds.... which netted them $30,000,000 on their $200,000,000 movie.

I know you're upset that this movie bombed, but projecting your wanting to shoot yourself in the head onto me is a little extreme.

>>11816780
Tomorrow War was released during peak COVID captivity, so you had a bunch of people who couldnt leave their house watching anything and it apparently was one of amazon's biggest orginal movies ever... by accident, since it was supposed to have a theaterical release, but COVID canned that and got a super limited release.

So now Amazon thinks it can produce lighting in the bottle twice, ignoring the factors that led to the first movie being so popular? Or maybe release the sequel in theaters?

Anyway, you're assuming HeMan will also be as popular as tomorrow war, just because it's also going to be on amazon prime, which is a ridiculous leap in logic.
If people wanted to watch the movie, they would right now. People are very much into FOMO and very little stops people from spending too much money on shit when they could watch it "free" or for cheap.

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Wave 4 of Core figures
From left to right:
Teela from the block (aka T.Lo)
Aqua Fresh Skeletor
Cop Killa Tri-Klops
Ramu Man (aka Chink in the Armor)

>>11814210
All the characters apparently have actual names, but the names we know were established as Adam's own monikers. Fisto is the funniest one, but Adam is just Adam the entire time until...

>>11816834
>why the public at large learning about discussing things like ratings and box office is as stupid as people discussing polling and campaign donations for elections


I have no Sagiatar in this race because I care more about the old toys than the movie but its depressing how so much discussion now media in general revolves around sales, profit, box office, views, clicks, concurrent players, etc. Some of my favourite things were cult classic movies that bombed.

>>11816887
So that Skeletor is what, meant to be the hologram in the sky?

>>11816903
Im legitimately suprised nowhere in the history of Heman have they ever renamed Fisto into something like Punch-or

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>you should smile more, bitch

>>11816887
I thought about army building Tri-Klops, but then I realized how racist it would look to have a bunch of black snipers shooting at mostly light-skinned people... and now I'm for certain going to army build him.

>>11816957
No, it's actually from an end credits scene that very few people stayed to watch. In this scene, Skeletor is a ghost taking a bubble bath with a naked Evil-Lyn.

I hope we get that figure next!

>>11816995
Yea thos front hail tails really make a difference. Mattel CC version looks off with out them.

>>11816958
Warlords of Wor started as a parody in many ways. Man-at-Arms and Fisto were used as a basis to make Clawbber for that line. The artist doing to mini comics went on to work for Mattel doing the actual MotU comics.

>>11816995
It's really hard to not say fuck it and go Mondo. Can't afford a new line right now.

>>11817005
>No, it's actually from an end credits scene that very few people stayed to watch.
Saw it with a half full theater in the middle of the day and only my wife and I stayed until the end. They all left after credit 2.

>>11816995
whywould you pay over 400 bucks for her if you could just get the origins one?

>Mondo gave Orko a face
What the actual fuck did they do to my boy? That's like giving jawas faces. Fucking cursed lmao

>>11817013
Who the fuck is paying 400?
Its 125 for the timed and probably 95-99 for the regular version.

>>11817085
Goatse Pit

>>11817005
>>11817009
You guys are fucking with me right? There's just the three post credits scenes (He-man and Battle cat, Orko, and Lynn retrieving Skeletor)

>>11816792
Just cherrypick from both lines. That's how I've handled things upto now. The only dupe in my collection is Mouse-Jaw.

>>11817085
Moaty is kino. The Snorse is kino. We need more creatures.

>>11816867
what if they're hedging their bets on theatrical dying off?

>>11816768
Brilliant comparison I didnt even think of until you mentioned it.

>>11817107
He-Man and Battle Cat doesn't count as a post-credits. There's a post-credits scene between the other 2 you mentioned, soooooo???

>>11817044
>and probably 95-99 for the regular version.
I doubt there will be one, though maybe with Orko in there it'll be considered "big" enough?

She looks great, but since this line seems like it'll be primarily Mondo store only, I can't justify the cost. I did just get Clawful and he is pretty great, so I wouldn't be opposed to carefully picking and choosing certain releases that call out to me.

>>11816995
i don't really care about 200x but shes pretty fucking cute, mondo really does females better than most other companies

>>11817085
Hello new friend. Someone was comparing a pic of the two and dear lord the new one is a lot bigger.

>>11816995
>>11816997
Best Teela

>>11816584
What are the heads from??

>>11816563
Is that backpage by an artist at TAKARA? Because that's a direct Conan/Frazetta homage right there. Looks great.

>https://www.finebooksmagazine.com/news/opening-bid-10m-frank-frazettas-conan-conqueror-berserker-cover-art

>>11816217
>>11816235
Saw these today so thanks for the head's up. Got my pick from the 4 BA Skeletors.

>>11817135
I would bet on orko being part of the timed exclusive if there is a regular version. Which I would be surprised if there wasn't.
I don't care I have he-man now, skeletor and man at arms ordered so i'll be getting her for sure.
I almost regret not getting clawful now

>>11817166
>I don't care I have he-man now, skeletor and man at arms ordered so i'll be getting her for sure.
>I almost regret not getting clawful now
I was really mulling it over but figured that Chronicles might one day hit 200x and I'd be happy enough with those. Given the level of exclusivity and price, I didn't want to feel locked in had I got all the initial releases. When MAA was announced as an exclusive I think that was my decision maker. If he was, everyone else would be too.

>>11816549
>>11816548
>>11816547
It's worth noting the japanese were the ones who nearly got a vintage style Icer made too. Unfortunately the plans were struck down at the eleventh hour but I still remember seeing pics for the reissue line. I wish Japan had cared about MOTU, who knows what would have come of it. Also the fact Takara was responsible for the Japanese release makes me all the sadder the crossover turned out as halfassed as it did.

>>11817133
I have no memory of the bubble bath thing either way

>>11817219
oh and the she-ra one

>>11816956
>its depressing how so much discussion now media in general revolves around sales, profit, box office, views, clicks, concurrent players, etc.
are you ten years old? Because it sounds like you're barely just noticing something that has been going on since at least the 80s, because that's when i was ten and when i started noticing people caring about blockblusters and bombs.

The fact that a video store was even called "blockbluster" should give you an idea of how important it's been to people for longer than you've been alive.

The internet has allowed discussion to be more focused, since it's now so easy to talk with other people who share the same hobbies and info is so easy to find, and really nothing has changed about that since the 90s. Places like GAF (now neogaf) became famous thanks to getting accurate sales numbers for video games every month, instead of just top rankings.

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>>11816842
>know you're upset that this movie bombed,
I'm annoyed that idiots like you are now what consumes most of the internet.
I'm not a MOTU fan. Before this year, I never even opened this thread. I think most of the Mattel toys look unappealing in more than just a dysmorphic fashion. Their look doesn't appeal to me, aesthetically, personally.
I had reasons for being interested in the movie, that have more to do with Laika, for example, but that ALSO has nothing to do with my point.

Just like you are wrong about so many things in your original post, you are wrong in this follow-up and again, it's not worth arguing with you but I did need to clarify your mistaken impression that my heart is broken as some 40+ year old He-Man fan or someone who religiously grew up on the cartoons, comics, toys, etc., because none of that has any basis in reality.

>>11816956
>how so much discussion now media in general revolves around sales, profit, box office, views, clicks
This is partially my point.
By and large, even here, or on /tv/ or at /co/ no one is talking about the movie, or the acting (other than so-and-so was race swapped, or so and so wore pants), and if they do bring up something else, it's that those pants or the race swap is responsible for the movie bombing and the box-office.

And even if it's not a discussion about MOTU, it's what people are talking about. Some Zoomie made a successful horror movie. Zoomie is an AI plant. Mario or Sonic mogs Marvel and DC because the movie box office is so much greater.

All the arguments that are being made, by and large, have nothing to do with the acting, the story, the script, the plot, or even things like the effects, action sequence, etc., but the box office, ratings, etc.

>>11817518
>everything you say is wrong because you stated simple facts about how hollywood studios behave after a movie bombs
If you weren't thinking so many violent thoughts about me, i'd say you were a female, because your post is dripping with estrogen. So you were likely just raised by a bipolar mother.

I haven't said anything negative about the movie, so why are you so mad? Describing what hollywood studios have done in the past is like getting mad at me for saying that the sun will rise in the east.

>A new article by Deadline is saying that Amazon uses theatrical releases to at least cover the Marketing costs of their films in theaters before they hit Prime video.
The movie needs to make around $200,000,000 to cover the marketing costs, because theaters usually take about half the ticket sales for themselves. And I'm talking about US ticket sales. With foreign ticket sales, the studio gets even less (10-40%).

Amazon can cover movies all by themselves, because they'll look 2-10 years down the line and hope all the views will make up for a $150m movie, but something like He Man is supposed to push a toyline for Mattel immediately So it failed to expand the audience beyond the 50 year old uncs who grew up with it and waiting 5-10 years to make their money back (like with that tomorrow war movie) doesn't really work since their actors will age out.

>>11816957
Good idea but He-Man in black paint with grappling hook isn't anything so I guess it's just variant.

SCORE!
I found a decent 1983 Snake Mountain at a consignment shop yesterday for $80, like 95% complete, just missing one bridge piece, the ladder (don't care) and battery cover (don't care). Considering most ebay auctions want to start around $50 JUST for shipping, I'm actually happy! And the stickers look great. I'll eventually buy the one missing bridge piece, but no rush.

>>11817728
Congrats on the find!

>>11817412
>>11817410
I'd say they do

>>11816995
She looks fantastic, but I think I'm gonna pass, not a good year for these to come out lol.

>the movie has made a whopping 60 million, making roughly 2mil per weekday
we're a little fucked

>>11817895
Have faith

I wonder if toys reflect on early version of the movie or just do whatever they want.

Did Battle Cat had more time?
Did Roboto had gears exposed earlier?
Did Ram Man had axe and Mekaneck had gun?

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>>11817936
It still can be

>>11816887
The fact that the movie managed to sell me on all the raceswaps despite it's flaws still boggles my mind. I really hope this line is selling well because I want stupid repaints of all these guys.

>>11817895
You’re forgetting that this will be going to prime video. It will be in the top 10 indefinitely. Mattel wins in the end. Theatrical release was a formality that never really mattered.
>inb4 cope

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>Herpity derpity he-man property didn't do good
We know tourists that's literally every fucking he-man thing since fucking filmation. But we get new toys and that's the most important part because this is fucking /toy/, not /pol/, not /tv/, but /toy/. So you can piss off with your stupid doom and gloom as if we aren't used to it. Post toys for fucks sake.

>>11817936
Latin bros and german bros, save us.

>>11817412
pinhead at arms

>>11817518
>I'm not a MOTU fan. Before this year, I never even opened this thread.
then leave.
Also, /co/ talks about bro gym skeletor a lot

>>11818001
>>11818003
Gud

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>>11818066
>Latin bros and german bros, save us.
Sorry, I did my part watching the movie twice but my people wasted their money in Scary Movie, Bathrooms and El Mundial :/

>>11818001
>>11818003
Looks better than stock 200x and the movie

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>see that mondo clawful came out
Lets see what he's going for on ebay
>$300
Any Chance Mondo dose a reissue or am I SOL?