Are you ready for Studio Series to be filled with even more G1?Previous:>>11839831
>>11845232More Starscream recolors again? I wish the Korean toylines were as popular as their music industry
>>11845232Seething allspark tranny
>>11845232>new thread made on page 4 instead of just waiting til 3 more images were postedgot tired of trolling on /trash/ eh? I'd say welcome back, but.. you're not
>>11845232GO GO POWER SEEKERS
>>11845232I only want to get them to resell
Hasbro, where is the new timelines Megatron and Bumblebee?!I want to give you money for them just put up the preorder for the demon pig man!
I just want to go back to when generations meant fun new interpretations of existing characters with great alt modes instead of slavish devotion to replicating the source material
siege was my favorite because it's what got me back into transformers and I liked the battle damage. Now I stopped collecting because it's all so gay.
>>11845288>demon pig manGanon?
>>11845293megatron
>>11845290No, we will have G1 again. And again, and again and again!!
>>11845292Siege was fun but the new stuff is more accurate
>>11845296I want MP that isn't shit for the seekers. I loved the size but they were only good as statues or only in plane mode. I'm hoping the missing link ones will be great.
>>11844335My final Sunday haul, somewhat more modest than yesterday
>>11845300>That Reboot badgeAlphanumeric!
>>11845297He can do some stuff
>>11845303ah I only had the realistic looking ones. I would touch them and they would shift into some blob of plane pieces.
>>11845294Ganontron?
>>11845300>Midna keychainWell, everyone has a type, I suppose...
>>11845300>>11845324I didn't even notice at first!Based!
>>11845305Oh yeah, the original (and remolded) MP Starscream toy infamously never had a locking mechanism for the torso, so you'd pick it up and his whole chest would just *slide whistle noise* as gravity did the rest. On top of the other flaws it had, it's why it was a very divisive mold for a very long time.
>>11845232>Are you ready for Studio Series to be filled with even more G1?G1 is what I'm here for, so yes I am. Cope and seethe about it tranny.
>put prototype in store for public display Why can't Hasbro do this?
>>11845405With how litigious America can be, you'd have people complaining that the final product wasn't grey, or that it wasn't on sale immediately. The latter especially, I can't imagine stores would want to dedicate space to a product they can't sell yet and won't be able to for months.
>>11845232Didn't they just dump a Bayverse Grimlock that nobody likes into the Titan class for no good reason?
>>11845409its pretty gay how you always have to tiptoe with your customers nowadays and not expecting them to understand, or some people that purposely act as if they dont understand why a product isnt finalizedasian countries seem to have lesser of these bad actors at least
>>11845423How is blokees doing over there anyway? Do people return them when they find out they need assembly?
>>11845428blokees is pretty much a hit everywhere and that's why hasbro is scrambling to get an affordable model kit line rollingI assume most people dont return them though
>>11845417well the chinese market certainly cares about the Bayverse Dinobots.
>>11845423>>11845405I imagine someone would break in to snatch the prototype
>>11845462>someoneNo need to hold back here, we all know you mean the scummy mormon CEO of Bricks and Minifigs.
>>11845405"Changing consumer habits".
You mean save more money? Yes I am.Although I'm gonna have to cave for Sunstorm.
I was so close to getting SS86 Skywarp, but then I saw how easily the purple paint on the forearm can be scratched. To anyone that has him or any of the SS86 Seekers, already is just a widespread issue?
>>1184543030MM but with Transformers would be kino
>>11845430I've thought of getting their bayverse bumblefuck just because none of the studio series ones satisfy me
Bbts has a big trans sale right now.
>>11845518kek
>>11845405why would they have access to prototypes?
>>11845606I took a look earlier and it's really underwhelming. no major discounts on anything that good.
>>11845232i love thesebut as a poorfag i'm hoping to afford just Starscream.he will be around 80eur in europe.
>>11845405Why would you put a prototype instead of a finished toy? And don’t say Takara doesn’t have access to one yet because they already did promo shots with one for TTM
>make the other 4 combaticons drab dark military colors>make swindle bright ass yellow that’s accurate to nothingthey need to fire the colorblind retard at hasbro who keeps deciding the deco for these figures
>>11845655I have to start buying the rest of these...damn... I still just have Vortex...
>>11845655You know which one fucks those up constantly
>>11845655You'll have to build a time machine first
>>11845655He probably would look better a bit less bright, but you can bullshit anything into being anything.
>>11845655>"Combaticons, report!">SNAP CLINK CLANK WHIRR WHIZZ WHAM BOOM>"what the fuck guys"
>>11845571Literally the first I've heard of this.
Well, the SDCC exclusives are all on Pulse. To...tease us I guess?
What's the next haslab? When will we see it?
>>11845698Oh shit, I didn't realize they were making Fatal Fluffies. I might have to buy one, assuming they don't do the standard "sell out in two seconds" Joe SDCC exclusive thing.
I just got SS86 Megatron and he's pretty cool, but I have one worry: are you supposed to force the sword handle into his hand to the point his fingers bend noticeably? I don't want to break his fist...
>>11845024>>11845040>>11845044>>11845048Isn't it much more likely that they'll just animate it with the CAD files for the toyline like Wild King and Cyberverse do?
>>11845708I recommend pulling the beam from the handle, then shave off the ring at the top so you can slide it on.
Someone gave me Quintus as a gift, and I'm shocked how simple he is. I've seen more complex core classes.
>>11845709probably
>>11845324Yeah, and his type is superior to yours.
>>11845717Eh, its not human Midna, so theres room for improvement.
>>11845718fag
>>11845718man I'm with you, fat midgets are weird.then again I'm more of an Ilia and Ageha man. With a side of maybe the Great Fairy, but
>>11845720>dude prefers his women with an actually feminine shape>a fagUhhh...
>>11845720Whats faggy about a hot babe with rockin' tits, a pretty face, and long hair?
>>11845731well the hair comes to mind. that's for men.tits are a matter of taste.
Tittybots vs Bootycons
>>11845713Thanks, I didn't even know it was an issue so I immediately googled it after how scary making him hold it was the first time. I'll probably try what you suggest but in the meantime I think he just won't be holding his sword. Other than that, I'm very impressed by the figure though!
>>11845718You don't improve on perfection you dolt.
>>11845655baldigus repaint when
>>11845718>>11845720>>11845727>>11845731>>11845733>not gonna lie but that midgerino gives me a big ol obnerino
>>11845737Probably either Gen Selects or New Legends in about two years, give or take
>>11845717Not really - I prefer floor tiles.
>>11845755I gotta admit, their immediate attraction to, and pursuit of, Link IS a quality I look for in a woman. and I like flat girls, but.. floor tiles, I feel like they're just kinda.. square.
>>11845739Obnerino?
>>11845755I think that meme is older than most of the people on the site these days.
>>11845755>I prefer floor tilesWoah, blast from the past.
>>11845290>I just want to go back to when generations meant fun new interpretations of existing characters with great alt modes instead of slavish devotion to replicating the source material:)
>>11845793I wonder when we're seeing the final wave of AotP and the Machine Wars Starscream coming from that Skyquake/Dreadwing mold.
>>11845794I'd rather get fucking G1 Skyquake first.
>>11845794Probably at SDCC. Supposedly the final wave will be up for pre-order soon.
>>11845784I'm totally with this guy. There's a real kinda pseudo bonery feeling from art just really coming together.Only tiles I've ever had hots for were shower tiles, and then only by association with who else had touched them and how beclothed they weren't in the preocess.
Some of you should invest in that life sized midna sex doll coming out
>>11845793Didn't Prime fans hate all of them but gave a sort of begrudging nod to Skyquake/Dreadwing?
>>11845810That's my point. The Legacy Prime toys were exactly what people are saying they want when they say Generations should be reimagined designs. But actual Prime fans hated them. Most people don't actually want "chugified" designs over accurate toys of characters they like.
>>11845825Well it fails at being "great alt modes" at the absolute minimum. Somehow a motorcycle from the 2020s looks worse than one from a decade before. Also the transformations were less clever than the predecessors so fun is questionable.
>>11845825>The Legacy Prime toys were exactly what people are saying they want when they say Generations should be reimagined designs> actual Prime fans hated themwhat the fuck are you saying
>>11845834he's referring to two different groups of people anon it's not that hard to follow
>>11845797You ain't getting shit and you'll like it. You'll pay for more and get less and then say thank you for spending your time and money.
>>11845834Basically, when Generations Lugnut or 2010 Lockdown came out people said they wanted more like that. The Prime Generations toys were more like that, in theory, but fell flat
>>11845838>generations should update the designs and bring about a united continuity>NO NOT LIKE THATmake up your mind
>>11845841Less extreme bayformers look is more popular than half-assed G1 version look.
>>11845847Whatever helps you zoomers sleep as night with thsoe half assed punk bitch takes you got nicely there.
>>11845850anon we've been over thisyou can't insult gen z while using the insipid gen z generational slangs with oom in them
>>11845701Any rumors on this? Bwos?
Uh oh, no room for Liege Maximo
>>11845825>Most people don't actually want "chugified" designs over accurate toys of characters they like.I agree with this part, problem is the prime toys weren't really fun besides maybe Skyquake, and even his weapons left a bit to be desired. Still better than Bulkhollow who was probably the worst Voyager of that year.
>>11845863>Still better than Bulkhollow who was probably the worst Voyager of that year.The first edition was good
>>11845701>>11845852It's Primus, $400, SDCC is showing off Scorn so Primus is probably NYCC.
>>11845865The prime first edition is good, I mean the Legacy Voyager.
>>11845850Are you saying that zoomers were the intended target audience of 2010 Transformers, or the Legacy Transformers?
If they did remold BW2 Galvatron into Galaxy Force Master Megatron I can see the drill halves being turned into car halves.
>>11845973He's not a dragon or a tank and doesn’t transform like one
>>11845973beauty
>>11845793I have legacy Knockout and he is pretty fun
>>11845973That'd be fucking weird, but at least the tie-in comic has an explanation for being completely different.
>>11845856Well, if there was any Prime that deserved to be excluded...
>>11845856everytime I see splendid convoy, the more I want to get her, one of these days i'll pull the trigger
>>11845737Battle Gaia first, preferably. Unite Warriors Baldigus DOES exist while Battle Gaia has nothing.
>>11845973rangeban all digibashers
>>11845842I hate this bullshit that transformers are now pulling. "It's different right? you wanted different? here's different so why are you still complaining?"Because it's lazy and uninspired. Lugnut is a cartoony bomber, so it's only natural they would take that design and add elements from real WW2 Bombers, Not only that it maintains the silhouette so it is very recognizably lockdown. The same with Lockdown only they just enhanced his existing characteristics.The Prime Legacy versions are shit because they're focused more on cramming them into a G1 filter than creating something interesting and unique. Bulkhead and Breakdown aren't even the same vehicles anymore, Knockout is a SS86 Jazz repaint, Arcee is a pretool of an already shitty mold, Skyquake is the closest that comes to working and he doesn't even look as good as the original design for him which was proven when 3P mogged the shit out of it and sold it for LESS than the actual figure.Faggots like this is why we don't get anything good anymore
Megan Lagann
>>11846122Its just as simple as the toy designs you mentioned being really bad and Lugnut and Lockdown being good. The old one must have been done by Takara or something. The thing is too that people were also referring to G1 Transformers when they said they wanted new stuff for old characters. Because Classics had good new designs most of them too. (Lol Galvatron though)The funny thing is I hate the nee Skyquake as someone who wanted a G1 Skyquake. He has too much Prime in his design. And Im not a geewunner I mostly like BW. Why not just do either one or the other?
>>11845232Ahhhh whyd you have to make this the OP pic. Im trying not to buy it but I want Sunstorm. Theyre 55 each here plus horrible shipping.
>>11845973peak idea. I mean obviously i'd rather a bespoke mold for Cybertron Megatron/Galvatron but goddamn this fucks for a Beast version even more than the repaint of the BW Megatron.
>>11845793Ah, now you see their game. Wanting screen accuracy is only bad if you're one of those evil geewunners. Being a Prime tooner on the other hand is perfectly acceptable and encouraged.
I'm still not getting the complaint that a toy looks too much like its original design. It's still an update with more articulation, and better proportions (or its supposed to be). I could see if they fucked THAT up, but complaining that they didn't rebuild the character from the ground up is strange. Especially when, as other people pointed out you get stuff like Universe Galvatron or Ironhide, or Classics Astrotrain.I keep thinking this is a complaint of people who just can't stand that they're following a toyline that existed before they came along. They're here now, so it has to be all new for them, not some "old fogies"
>>11846167>Classics Astrotrain.Classics Astrotrain's only real flaw is that it was restricted into being a deluxe with Energon design philosophies. Also designs like Galvatron and Ironhide are outliers when it comes to designs and decision making as opposed to current CHUG>>11846161Being a Prime tooner is arguably worse because most of those designs aren't that good and in some cases worse than bayformers designs. I know both of you are being gay and disingenuous though so I'm not going to entertain you further.
>>11846174
>>11846176Unironically still more fun than your average Legacy figure.>NOOOO HIS CHEST IS TOO WIDEPeople who actually like toys don't give a shit about that.
>>11846178>>NOOOO HIS CHEST IS TOO WIDENo one said that. It was just Shockwave samefagging because his boobs are smaller.
>>11846167My thing is once you go too far Sunbow it loses a lot of details. Id rather toys be toys. I havent been into transformers in a few years so I cant really give many modern examples but MP44 Prime was bad for this but I liked the original MP Primes a lot
>>11846179I mentioned it because if I didn't bring it up someone else would have. Shouldn't have to explain that.
>>11846181I was just making a joke about Shockwave's titties. I shouldnt have to explain Shockwave isnt a real person and that this was a joke.
I mean it wasn't a good joke but still
>>11846161Because being accurate to Geewunn usually involves trying to make some godawful, physically impossible design work by having a bland-ass box-bot with a mushy gray face panelform into a shitty, incomplete alt mode with bike tires and no ground clearance. The argument is less about accuracy itself, and more the fact that G1 accuracy is basically a mandate to make an ugly, horrible toy.
There should be more partsforming if it helps make a design more accurate to the source TBQHWY. This is an objective fact, so no need to @ me.
>>11846203The only acceptable partsforming is weaponizers and modulators.That said, I would really like either more of those or at least reissues of the ines from seige. Slammer has been fun for me but his older brothers are too expensive for me.
>>11846161A bunch of schizos whose personality revolves around being angry at an imagined opposition are also inconsistent? I never would have guessed!
>>11846188nah I like this
>>11846180nobody is saying to go full Sunbow, but there are complaints like >>11845290apparently trying to give people the toy they couldn't in the 80's is bad because.....
>>11845655Swindle looks fine.
>>11846195This is a legitimate complaint. I don't see why a figure has to have a bunch of false parts and extra hinges just to make it slavishly accurate to an animation model. Just fix the shit that was wrong with the figure the first time around.A lot of the figures I hate are the result of prioritizing something over just making a workable figure. Either totally redesigning a concept so now a whole bunch of new mistake happen, or trying to make him look like the cartoon with a lot of unnecessary engineering goes into the wrong parts
>>11846209>being angry at an imagined opposition are also inconsistent?wild accusation to make when you're literally in the middle of arguing a strawman of your own making. The simple fact is that G1 sunbow designs are bad. This has nothing to do with prime, other CHUG figures, or "consistency" or any of that shit you're trying to deflect with.>>11846212>trying to give people the toy they couldn't in the 80's is bad because1. we already had toys in the 80s that had interesting designs with fun details that were altered and erased specifically to make the cartoon models2. nobody in the 80s actually needed the toys to be that accurate. If anything, I always wondered why my toys had details that weren't in the cartoon.3. aren't we done now? We've gotten pretty much every boring-ass G1 autobot and decepticon figure in Sunbow style now. Many of them multiple times over. What else do you soulless checklist cucks need? Let's try something different, now.
>>11846218>wild accusation to make when you're literally in the middle of arguing a strawman of your own making. The simple fact is that G1 sunbow designs are bad. This has nothing to do with prime, other CHUG figures, or "consistency" or any of that shit you're trying to deflect with.Didn't say any of that, go take a walk and calm down.
>>11846218Maybe you're missing my point.Most of the early toys looked like this. Badly proportioned bricks with no articulation and a lot a dramatic license to make them look good in the shows and our imagination. The Generation Blot took this concept and made it palpable. He was posable and well proportioned and looked like he was always supposed to but couldn't back then.That's all I want out of the Generations line. Make the old concept work. I don't understand why people would have a problem with this. Especially if they weren't even around for G1 which would make all these new characters and concepts as far as they're concerned anyway.
>>11846226That looks bad, and even poseable would still look bad. You liking the bad looking thing is fine, but you gotta accept the fact a majority will not.
>>11846234you didn't even read the post, you just hallucinated what you thought he meant.
>>11846235I guess he didn't take that walk he was supposed to.
>>11846235I didnt even fully look at the image either. I also havent really read a single thing in this argument going on. Im just stating a general fact. Old inaccurate toy bad, newer more accurate toy good.
>>11846237>accurateto what? The toy came first.
>>11846237Eh, grow up.
>>11846226>Especially if they weren't even around for G1Actually that's the rub, if you didn't grow up around it your only attachment would be the shows/comics. You never grew up with the old toys so why would you care about stylized figures? You like the old cartoon you'll want things that look like it. Anything that gets away from that won't interest you. It's like how the only Walmart retro carded minibot that sold well was Bumblebee and that wasn't the toy model. Worth noting that is why the brand is dying, no new show or game is holding any attention and making good sales so we are in this weird doom loop of low quality stuff for very young kids (Cyberworld) or collector stuff with no middle branding like Generations. >>11846234Missing Link proves as much for how slow burn they are with it. There is a market but nothing satiable or would keep costs down due to demand.
>>11846244NTA but I will never understand the "why would you care about something you didn't grow up with?" argument.
>>11846244>Missing Link proves as much for how slow burn they are with it. There is a market but nothing satiable or would keep costs down due to demand.but anon was literally not asking for the old toy but articulated. They wanted the old aesthetics and details of the toy with better proportions closer to the toon, but not beholden to the exact proportions. They mentioned Generations Blot as an example. They never asked for Missing Link style.
>>11846241In the case of Blot it might have been the flip. Most of the Season 3 cast were drawn up before the toys were even finished.
>>11846245Sorta sameI don't really care if my toys are accurate to anything, I just want them to look cool
>>11846247This is the Generations toy, it does have some concessions due to the CW style but it has a lot of details from the toy still
>>11846245I think it comes from a misunderstanding of exposure to things. Much like game counsels where someone could have grown up with a NES between 87 and 97, but by 97 you be up to the N64 and people just assume you grow up with what was new at that time.>>11846247I hear you but Missing Link is enforcing that point made, that there isn't much appetite for updated G1 figures. As for what anon wants I already addressed that, no new shows attached to the characters means that it either has to go with what people are familiar with or nothing at all. Generations work because there was no clear signs we ever get Studio Series like toys in 2005~2015, we are now in a world where it's possible and demand shows they just want what it look like on the screen and little else. A lot of these Timeline and crossover figures are proving as much for how slow most sell even as exclusives.
>>11846250And this is the animated model. Much less colors, mostly down to 2 colors, no colored details in the chest or kneecaps. The chest is cooler and more interesting though. I totally get why this alone would not be the most appealing. The details of the toy or box art design's chest or knees go a long way.
>>11846254>I hear you but Missing Link is enforcing that point made, that there isn't much appetite for updated G1 figures.Can't speak for anybody else but I just think they're overpriced, otherwise I would totally pick up one or two.
>>11846258That overpriced nature is reflecting that lack of demand, a great example of this is that Legacy G1 Prime that ended up on bundles and clearances during the holidays. Even at $20ish people were not eager to grab it.
>>11846259If you say so. I just don't think this is as much a problem with the idea itself as it is with the cost on either end.
>>11846245>"why would you care about something you didn't grow up with?" argument.9 times out of 10 it's true. Most people do not buy toys and shit just because it's cool, the vast majority need a show or comparable attached to it. You don't have to grow up with it per say, but the whole reason the 3rd party markets best sellers are all the toys that look like the cartoon is telling how people decide thing and it's not how cool it looks so much as is it close enough to what the cartoon/comic look like. >>11846260heart of it is there are not enough people that have any attachment to the idea, most people under 30 have never even held or played with a G1 toy so the novelty of the idea isn't that strong with them. It be like expecting you to want to collect collectable plate ware recasted from 1970s designs that you never grew up around. A small market might be there sure, but to most the idea is just confusing. Actually that's another way to look at it, how many people do you know in their 20s that are actively collecting things from 40+ years ago?
>>11846261>9 times out of 10 it's true. Most people do not buy toys and shit just because it's cool, the vast majority need a show or comparable attached to it. You don't have to grow up with it per say, but the whole reason the 3rd party markets best sellers are all the toys that look like the cartoon is telling how people decide thing and it's not how cool it looks so much as is it close enough to what the cartoon/comic look like.Sounds like a personal hangup my man, don't act all confused when people don't fit into the little boxes you make for them.
>>11846254>I hear you but Missing Link is enforcing that point made, that there isn't much appetite for updated G1 figures. As for what anon wants I already addressed that, no new shows attached to the characters means that it either has to go with what people are familiar with or nothing at all.Missing Link, again, has nothing to do with anon's point because they emphasized more idealized proportions, not just the literal G1 toy one.They're not advocating for wholly different designs but something closer to MP-01 Optimus, which everyone can tell is Optimus. Even if the show model didn't have silver on his legs, or tanks and wheels on the side of his legs, or a silver stripe in his truck mode. It's still understandable as Optimus with more detail than his cartoon model. The idea that something has to be 100% toon accurate down to a lack of detailing otherwise it's wholly unrecognizable is bizarre. Almost no other franchise toyline is like this. I get why the Classics/Universe/early Generations redesigns could be seen as too different, but now this is far on the other side of that where people are arguing any greebling or highlights in the design makes it entirely different.
>>11846276Fact is people simply want G1 Optimus not not-G1 Optimus or ALMOST-G1 Optimus.
>>11846265>Sounds like a personal hangup my man, don't act all confused when people don't fit into the little boxes you make for them.I won't because my framing of reality is accurate, proof is in the sales.
I just want accurate UT toys. I personally do not care what they do with other stuff as long as I get my accurate animebots. And speaking of accuracy I dont like how they changed the requiem blaster.
>>11846276>Missing Link, again, has nothing to do with anon's point ESL? This has been the third time I made it clear to you I am not talking about the blot anons point I am just exploring the other anons point and playing with the idea.You all just seem to want to force narratives. Why?
>>11846236What walk? (you) having conversations with the voices in your head again?
>>11846243>telling someone to grow up>on 4chan, of all placesThe ironing is delicious
>>11846287Because you keep bringing up ML as an example of the point, when it has nothing to do with the point. It has nothing to do with the discussion on hand.
>>11846284You were confused enough to ask why someone would care about a thing they didn't grow up with, clearly there's something you're struggling to understand.
>>11846276>Almost no other franchise toyline is like this.Except for all those other toylines.
>>11846292Huh?
>>11846294Nothing ironic about it, you're acting like a child.
>>11846306nta but which ones?
>>11846319Batman The Animated SeriesHe-ManTMNTThundercatsSilverhawksJustice LeagueEvery figma ever made
>>11846306Not really. A common thing here waaay back in the late 2000s and 2010s was complaining that other Classic lines had more accurate desins, but if you look at something like GI Joe from tis era, it's not 1:1 the cartoon designs but more like using the cartoon as a springboard for more "realistic" or detailed designs. People back then expected more like Classics Starscream, I don't think the concept of pulling off exact Sunbow replicas was fathomable back then.
>>11846324>He-Man
>>11846324>He-Man>TMNT>Thundercats>Justice Leagueall of these have had toylines with more detail than their animated counterparts. If anything thats the norm for He-man with animation accuracy being a more modern thing.Both Mattel and Super7 had these more detailed Thundercats before shifting to an animation based one much later.
>>11846328>He-Man
>>11846332yes, both exist
>>11846332That's still a stylized take. The details of the show on the proportions of the original toys. actually not far from Missing Link.
>>11846331Based consumers showing they don't want that and letting those lines die until the companies put out what the toys they should be making.
>>11846328This looks like an angry chinese man with blonde hair lol
Pigatron and squirrelbee go up for everyone in 28 minutes
>>11846347BY POWAH OF GLAYSKURR
fuck now I'm mixing this up with the motu thread
>>11846392Thanks for reminding me. I've ordered them with the Seeker pack.
>>11846392Nemesis Prime is back in stock. Weren't there people looking for him last week or so?
>>11846392Not interested in another Megatron but I would go for it if they retooled him into Snarler to go with Carnivac
>>11846429Matrix of Leadership arrived today. I was not expecting such a large box. I guess pictures just made me think it was smaller.
>>11846437Pics! Mine should be here Thursday
>>11846437>>11846447Mine should be here tomorrow. We got the touch.
Recent haul.I can’t believe how tight the joints on Kranix are.
>>11846503He's tense from watching his entire race die.
>>11846244>You like the old cartoon you'll want things that look like itI'd rather the figure look better than the cartoon I grew up with. Much like the toys, the cartoons had limitations themselves that had to be worked around. Why would I want a figure where all the silver is replaced with gloppy matte grey? Why would I want a figure that goes out of it's way to hide all of the wheels in robot mode?>>11846218>I don't understand why people would have a problem with thisBecause you can only deal with the same thing so many times to the point you just get sick of it. We're on our 5th iteration of the 84-86 cast with no end in sight. At some point you have to make way for new concepts and ideas or the franchise cannot progress
>>1184617610 points for an actual good jet mode
>>11846516I can agree with some of that. We don't need anymore Ironhides or Soundwaves for a while.But that's not what I'm talking aboue here>>11846226the idea of remaking any guy who had a toy before in G1 (or Beast wars or whatever) seems to upset some people who just want "new characters" for some reason. Or don't want it to resemble their previous incarnation at all>>>I just want to go back to when generations meant fun new interpretations of existing characters with great alt modes instead of slavish devotion to replicating the source materialthat's not "I'm tired of Ironhide #14", that's "they made a CHUG of Guzzle, and I'm mad because they didn't totally redesign him.
>>11846525But that robot mode is lame, and why the fuck is he white?
>>11846516>>11846543It's worth noting, that while they have done the same characters again and again, they HAVE re designed them. I don't need any more Ironhides, but all his previous toys, Universe, CW, Seige, and SS all have different designs and alt modes.So are we mad that they're not redesigning these guys or are me mad that it's simply not a "new character"
>>11846547I like the robot mode overall but it needed some more red. White and red are like pizza and pepsi.
>>11846547Anon you can't just ask people why they're white
>>11846547>>11846556They actually did do two other decoes that include more red, the Takara release (which was later released as a USA Edition in the States) and a Walmart exclusive redeco to better match his G1 appearance
>>11846176>>11846563This dude looks like a genuinely fun toy - sometimes that's more important than looking 1:1 to a dated, poorly drawn cartoon/toy commercial.
Man, I am deadly afraid to touch the new HW collab figures. They have so much paint and tampo's that I'm scared I'll scratch it off by accident.
>>11846565Sadly, it isn't. Its leg suck ass and it was very awkward to pose. Onslaught however was a much better toy.
>>11846581>Onslaught however was a much better toy.Can confirm that at least. Onslaught is great.
>>11846565I own it, and it's not. It's just big and awkward. The gun was great, but that's it.
>>11846585If only we got the original concept, it was so much better.
>>11846195Ah, so you have no higher principles here, it's just another excuse to cry about gee-wun and parade your poor taste around. Understood.
>>11846592It's still crazy to me that there are people bitching about toys looking too much like the cartoon they're based on.This litetally does not happen in any other toy fanbase.
>>11846447>>11846458Just a little tease to whet your appetites until your own ones arrives then.
>>11846525That's not a good jet mode at all. >>11846565Was pretty bad. Clunky, top heavy from a stupid light up tits gimmick, leg ratchets that didn't allow any cool posing (and from an era before ankle tilting was seen as useful for handling weight), the arms unpegged super easily because the shoulder ratchets were stronger than the tabs holding them in place, pointless missile launcher gimmick, ugly face, horrible cold dead eyes due to light up eye gimmick, and Skipped Everything proportions since all the meat is in the torso.
>>11846608Perfect. Going to be the centerpiece of my collection. I always thought the lighting in the movie was magic.
>>11846608neat!
>>11846607Probably because the cartoon looked like shit a lot of the time. And I say that as someone that enjoyed the cartoon for what it was.
>>11846632Pretty much. I feel SS86 Optimus and Megatron are as cartoon accurate as you can get, while keeping some modern flair and detail. The seekers take the cartoon look too far, and would have benefited from detail in a few areas.
>>11846607They just make up the most delusional takes to complain. I've seen people say "noooo you can't be too show accurate that makes toys uncanny valley" which just shows they're slamming their faces into a keyboard and posting whatever bullshit comes out.
>>11846565Yes, we hear you every other post with this shit. People have already explained they don't want 1:1 to a dAtEdPoOrlYDRawNComMeRCiAl. Go re-read the fucking thread you dumb (you) farmer
People have talked about how Nexus Prime completely botched the gimmick. About how nondescript the robot mode is. About the alt mode being a big fat pile of nothing. But no one ever tells you about the most hollow thighs of all time. This really is one of the worst Transformers ever.
>>11846218>interesting designs with fun details that were altered and erased specifically to make the cartoon models>2. nobody in the 80s actually needed the toys to be that accurate. If anything, I always wondered why my toys had details that weren't in the cartoon.I love that Missing Link is turning details that were stickers into actual sculpted detail. I also grew up with Beast Wars so I never got the point of needing accuracy either. Hell most of the characters I had were forms they didnt have in the show or didnt exist in the show. Granted it was a lot more accurate than G1 but the CGI models had to make a lot of changes due to limited technology at the time.
I really love Shadow Striker, so I'm making a new pair of legs.
>>11846709If you mean the calves, there's been worse.
>>11846713Also I forgot to mention in the first wave the box art had so much detail they didnt even match the toys 1:1. It was crazy.
>>11846713I think the vast majority of the CGI model changes actually made them HARDER to render, not easier. had they stuck to the toys closer, it would have been simple.. but also more boring. they purposely put in a bunch of extra pieces that could slide and shift around.. that, and changes like generally improving proportions even where it required cheating, like the majority of the animal head / jaw chests
>>11846722
>>11846725heheheactually does anyone have the beta CG designs where dinobot still had the skull helmet etc?
>>11846717the monster head is so fucking cool
>>11846563The left deco is supreme, if there was a way to swap the clear blue parts in there, that would be the best Powerglide
>>11846732I swear the better quality version of this got scrubbed off the web.>>11846722There's an usenet post back in the day for one of the first BW episodes where someone says that it's the first time the show designs are more detailed than the toys.
>>11846747yeah see. THESE models are more like the toys. so not only did they not 'change them to make it easier for CGI' they actually wasted the time spent on these models making new ones. because they knew this would get laughed off the air.I wonder why Scorponok and Terrorsaur's sizes were essentially switched. Neither makes any difference in the show, as far as I can tell. both are always at so much of a distance that it wouldn't change anything.
>>11846749In fact, I didn't even notice their sizes in the show. At all. All the preds felt pretty uniform except Megatron.
>>11846715but can she transform?
mom said it’s my turn on the xbox
I only now saw that MTO seeker pack, and so confused. So they shoved four seekers, but didn't put Sunstorm with his own group? The only one that got a proper release in the past few lines was Nacelle, with Hotlink getting a weird release in the Netflix line. They could have included those extra rifles/flame thrower as well.I just don't get why they had release another Rainmaker set.
>>11846804Well it's a start. He's gonna need a helluva lot more than just beefier arms to fix all of his issues, though - the rear halves of both his train and shuttle modes are such a mess I doubt there's anything they can to to patch them up.
>>11846806Because Hasbro hates us all
>>11846807what if they patch them up with beefy arm material>>11846804so much better. the legs appear to be longer but identical, is that an optical illusion?
>>11846816It is pretty clear that years of pushing and slandering and overregulating corporations has made them start to resent us personally.
>>11846806>I just don't get why they had release another Rainmaker set.To have them in this mold, obviously.Hotlink/Bitstream/Nacelle/Red Wing is an easy layup for another potential 4-pack down the road.
>>11846824Red Wing wasn't part of that group
I know people here will hate me, but I would have preferred a generic troop builder seeker pack. Just seeker recolors that haven't been used, the generic purple seeker, stuff like that.
>>11846841Did I say he was, retard?
Huh.
>>11846806Bitstream and Hotlink just aren’t that different enough from Skywaro, thundercracker, or Ion Storm. Nacelle is super in the background. Sunstorm and Novastorm have long been confused for the other, and most people thought Sunstorm was meant to be The yellow seeker that came to be known as Novastorm, which is why so many Sunstorms were bright yellow, and hell the whole “storm” naming scheme comes from Sunstorm being considered a rainmaker for a while by fans who thought that was his origin. It’s more important both get a secure release than the rest of the welcoming party.
>>11846609Jet mode is fine by virtue of not having a giant block on the underside like 90% of jetformers.>pointless missile launcher gimmick,I can understand posing but if you don't like missile launchers or understand why other people like missle launchers then you're probably not as into toys as you think you are
>>11846261>most people under 30 have never even held or played with a G1 toyPeople under 30 are losing interest in the brand due to a lack of disposable income in the midst of constantly inflating prices but Hasbro prioritizing it's boomer audience instead of trying to cultivate younger fans interest in the brand. This just feels like a continuation of that trend.
I know a lot of people here don't care for the Skybound comics, but I think the animated adaptation they're supposedly working on has the potential to reinvigorate the brand with veteran fans and newcomers if they do it right.
>>11846917To use the launcher he has to hold his gun backwards. It's stupid look to take a chain gun and go "he should point this at his arm and make a generic black nothing the real focus"
I managed to get five cheap TFs in recently- Devastation Optimus, Legacy Vector Prime, Siege Soundwave, Twin Mill and Velocitron Blurr (missing weapons but he was £10 so eh).Honestly all great figures. I like Vector Prime much more than I expected to, the chrono-cruiser mode looks way better in hand. Optimus is actually really fun, I'd like to see this transformation scheme used for a bigger and more complex Prime. Blurr is cool, vehicle mode could have done with more retooling but I do like him. Twin Mill is honestly fantastic, the legs aren't anywhere near as bad in hand as I thought. Soundwave is wrist swivels away from perfection IMO, really great toy; I do want the SS86 at some point but he's going for like £80 minimum and I got this for £20, so eh.
>>11846907>Nacelle is super in the background."Nacelle" arguably doesn't even exist.Sure, you can just make out a very dark colored seeker behind Sunstorm if you squint super hard, and in fact he went unnoticed for years, until DVD screencaps became widely available. The figure in question is so dark he appears almost black, kind of like Onslaught's colors.Somehow the fans decided this mystery figure was really a vivid bright blue (more like how Bitstream looks in the shot actually) AND with red vtol Thrust wings for some reason like the prototype in the catalog. But to claim that's what we're seeing on screen is dishonest as fuck.
>>11846968I recently picked up Legacy Vector Prime myself to finish off my Primes roster (I like his colors better than the upcoming figure) and I think he's very nice. I think most of the complaints about him were from QC issues so if you have a good copy, none of it really applies.
>>11847003>I think most of the complaints about him were from QC issuesMost complaints were about him being a half-assed remold that fails to capture how cool the original toy was. That's why I prefer the AotP one, with the new colors I can see it as a different version of the character instead of a thing that completely falls short looks wise when compared to the original character design.
>>11847010>no akshyually, the real reason is *insert self-important blowhard rant*God I hate TF fans so much.
MEGatron must be stopped. No matter the cost. https://youtu.be/vkCibntKkFo?si=Q1leEMJGOjNKzVsE
>>11847013>YOU GOT THE TOUCH!>YOU GOT THE POWER!
>>11847013Eh. I don't hate it but so far none of Hasbro's in house cover bands have hit for me.
>>11847013Wasn't really a fan of the cover they did for the main theme, but I think this one is actually alright.
>>11846790Can you?
>>11847012>That reply >Self-important>BlowhardHow do you even read that and reach that conclusion? Are you retarded anon?Also that's the truth. That mold got criticism for being just a Jiaxus remold that left the legs completely unchanged. Were you living under a rock back then or something?
>>11847031>Were you living under a rock back then or something?I don't know, were you living under a rock just now when two anons said they liked the figure and therefore obviously don't care about the Jhiaxus shins?
>>11847031Never got that. If you're going to keep any part of Jhiaxus makes sense to have the part where his exposed internals are on. Vector Prime's whole thing is he's old so you see his inner workings.
AOTP Nexus Prime is already in Cyberworld.
>>11847078>Today on Tf cyberworld>Ultra Magnus bombs serbia Of all things to make magnus they make him a fucking stealth bomberI love it,Its so dumb
>>11846851calm the fuck down, you faggot. what's wrong with you?
>>11846919>instead of trying to cultivate younger fans interest in the brand.isn't that why they have other lines like Earthrise and Cyberworld
>>11847023yes
HES FAT
Anyone notice the jet gun is backwards? He's about to shoot himself
>>11847096No they still haven't noticed
>>11847078Very interesting take on Magnus of all autobots.I can see him being recolored into Energon Wing Saber or Green Goblin's Glider.
>>11847097Do they think it's a rocket battering ram or something?
Incoming rape
>>11847100girls just don't understand
>>11847095I really like him and his doughy proportions
Goddamit, why is Galvatron II not avaible at EU Hasbro Pulse.
>>11847097Is this achievable natty?
>>11847078Man, why do they just refuse to give these guys elbows(Still gonna buy him)
>>11847147Hey, it's just like the Action Masters!
>>11847078I wouldnt have wanted these even as a kid, franchise is in dire straights right now
>>11847078So, does he combine with anyone? Or do people just stand on him?
>>11847010Yeah, I was expecting more of a "knights Templar" look. They had a lot of different themes to go with, and a sloppy jihaxus retool shouldn't have been one of them. He's not awful, just really lackluster compared to more original designs.
I miss when "optimus prime" was just the dude's fucking name, and there wasn't a whole retarded legacy of "blamkimus prime" nobodies behind it. Absolute bottom-tier lore. What really hurts is that they could have done absolutely ANYTHING with these figures, but most of them are just boring trash with garbage alt modes, as per usual. I can't wait for Hasblow to go bankrupt.
>>11847195>and there wasn't a whole retarded legacy of "blamkimus prime" nobodies behind it.So you've been mad since '86? Season 3 of G1 started that
>>11847200Yes. G1 is trash and ruined Transformers.
>>11847195Alright grandpa, go watch your G1 episodes and take your nap
>>11847203Cartoon was shit, comics are way better and more mature.
>>11847205The comics also did the Prime legacy thing.
>>11847206In 1988.
>>11847195>Absolute bottom-tier lore.That sums up most Transformers fiction.
An anon asked for a back shot of rexblade a bit ago
>>11847195I like the japanese and Animated thing whete prime/convoy is a rank or title
>>11847095>fatso does that make her Lizzo-bot?
Genesic Rexbreaker
IgniteLeoGaigar
>>11847147You answered your own questionCause you guys are fucking consoomer retards that buy dollar store budget figuresStop It's that simple
Wild king is so good bros
>>11847200Rodimus Prime was just the guy's name too. There was no legacy of Primes back then.Ultra Magnus was leader and was still just Ultra Magnus
>>11847195Rodimus Prime was created in 1986 and Sentinel Prime in 1988. You weren't even alive when these characters were created.
>>11847292I mean the episode where Rodimus goes into the matrix and sees all the previous bearers
>>11847212I was born that year.I'm old.
>>11847292Even in the movie it’s said that Prime is the rank given to proper Matrix bearers. That’s why Magnus didn’t change his name, because he wasn’t worthy of it.
>>11847299The earliest instance of Rodimus Prime seems to be the TF script from April 1985, about 7 months after the cartoon debuted. So Rodimus has been in the cards since less than a year from when the franchise debuted.
>>11847292>Rodimus Prime was just the guy's name tooAnd why do you think his name "just happened" to change to something-Prime?>Ultra Magnus was leader and was still just Ultra MagnusYes, because him merely being acting commander and not the true heir to the Matrix was like, a MAJOR FUCKING PLOT POINT of the movie. You have watched it anon...right?
>>11847333>trips of truthI was about to say that TFfags complaining about different people being named "Prime" is like holdout boomer Star Wars fans complaining about "Darth" as a Sith title and not just Vader's first name.Except, as you just correctly pointed out, it's really soooo much worse. At least SW had a good 20 year run before we started seeing more characters using the Darth title on screen. Transformers had...less than two before Prime was re-used. And if you count from the real life creation of the Rodimus character, a couple of months kek.
>>11847206this art looks worse than the cartoon
>>11847340I'd say they're both pretty stupid
This figure sucks. Leader class Sentinel Prime with his sword, shield, GUN, and a spacebridge pillar please.
Shame that the Cone heads haven't gotten a Tetra jet release.
>>11847273>>11847275Fffffine, I'll get Rexblade. I already have that GaoGaiGar, so might as well grab the new omni-combinable fella of this year.
>>11847335Yes I watched it.and you're telling me that everyone MUST'VE KNOWN he wasn't the true heir, even though Optimus literally gave him the fucking thing in front of everyone and everyone obeyed him like he was the new leader.You did WATCH all that right?No, Hot Rod's name change WASN'T a thing at the time. It was MEANT to be unique. It wasn't a thing that all leaders had Prime in their name. If you would've WATCHED War Dawn, it shows Optimus Prime had his name long before he was made leader.Hot Was was the only leader to get a name change because he was the Chosen One. Let me emphasize that word "ONE". Not all leadrrs get a name change, just the chosen ONE.It was changed to Rodimus prime for dramatic reasons as he was Optimus successor (the only leader audiences were familiar with) and that's it. No lineage.so now you can't take your smartass attitude and go fuck yourself.
>>11847312and no names were given. what are you talking about?
>>11847373I always thought the Coneheads weren't built until after the Decepticons got to Earth, since they just show up in S2 without explanation.
>>11847396I think he means the whole leadership tier thing.
>>11847395>and you're telling me that everyone MUST'VE KNOWN he wasn't the true heir, even though Optimus literally gave him the fucking thing in front of everyone and everyone obeyed him like he was the new leader.Yes, he was the leader. Which I even fucking said. That doesn't make him the true heir to the Matrix and the new Prime. You can't wrap your head around the fact that "leader of the Autobots" and "heir to the Matrix" are two separate things, or that Optimus might have been wrong and chosen the wrong guy to carry it.> If you would've WATCHED War Dawn, it shows Optimus Prime had his name long before he was made leader.Uh...you mean the episode where he was clearly introduced as Orion Pax? >Hot Was was the only leader to get a name change because he was the Chosen One. So you agree with me after all then?Chosen One and Autobot Leader are two different things, and in the case of Rodimus it happened to be both. Do you think all the original Primes (as in the 13) were Autobot leaders or something? Most of them pre-date the Autobots.
>>11847395>If you would've WATCHED War Dawn, it shows Optimus Prime had his name long before he was made leader.Bruh
>>11847335>>11847411So are you samefagging or is this just two chat bots?
>>11847404Probably, but if the Rainmakers getting Earth jet alts is possible, So are Cybertronian Coneheads too.
>>11847422This comment does not remotely make sense, I think you're the bot and a malfunctioning one at that.
>>11847412Yeah, keep going to where Alpha Trion introduces his rebuilt form, moron. pretend you watched the WHOLE episode
>>11847425I see anon's point, the two arguments use everything the same short of spacing which is very odd how spacing is used, almost like the guy is trying to hide it's one person. In fact they shift following the reply chain in a order that makes no sense for two people but one person forgetting his place it adds up.
>>11847427Those posts were both me, and why do you think I'm trying to hide it?Did he quote the wrong posts and meant to tag the faggot I was arguing with maybe?
>>11847405we know there was leaders before that. Buy people are arguing that Prime was a rank or lineage and it wasn't it was just Optimus Primes name.Because Hot Rod got changed to Rodimus Prime. writers retconned that into being a rank, but it wasn't a thing at the time. I think Furman was the first one to suggest it a few years later in the comics, not the cartoon
>>11847429>why do you think I'm trying to hide it?Well that's an interesting slip up
>>11847431Uh...you do realize Alpha Trion gave him the Matrix when he rebuilt him right?I know it's ridiculous to take G1 cartoon seriously and all, but they come right out and fucking say it in Five Faces of Darkness. Also on Tubi, I'd imagine. Maybe you should take your head out of your ass and go watch it and then report back on your findings, faggot.
>>11847411Uh...you mean the episode where he was clearly introduced as Optimus Prime?WATCH THE WHOLE FUCKING EPISODE. It's on Tubi RIGHT NOWand AGAIN, PRIME was not a lkineage or rank. None of the other leaders had that name. Prime was part of Optimus Primes name LONG BEFORE the matrix chose him.https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/113426/s02-e43-war-dawn16:08 HAVE FUNYou fucking people are thick
>>11847437>writers retconned that into being a rank, but it wasn't a thing at the time.Anon, no one ever once said it wasn't a retcon. Is that what this whole gay misunderstanding is about? lmfao
>>11847439>Uh...you do realize Alpha Trion gave him the Matrix when he rebuilt him right?where? point to it like I just did. He's not even leader, he's the first of a new breed of soldier
>>11847438You realized you quoted two of my posts, arguing with the same retard? Of course the posting style is similar, they're all my fucking words. Do you think everyone is only allowed one post per thread or something? First day on 4chan?There's even more mental illness on display in this /tfg/ thread than usual. No small feat, mind you.
>>11847444see>>11847317see >>11847200, the post I responded too, stupid
>>11847246Hope we get this one, or the astro train one. Would be fun combining with nemesis
>>11847445>do my homework for me!In Five Faces, Optimus (through the Matrix) explicitly tells Rodimus that Alpha Trion held onto the Matrix after the Autobot leader (later retconned as Sentinel) was destroyed, before passing it to "a gentle robot, called Orion Pax, who was fated to become..." and then Rodimus finishes his sentence for him.Now suck my fat cock you hysterical faggot.
>>11847444as a thirdparty observer, that is what it looked like the argument was to me, yesone anon doesn't like the retconthe other insists it was always that way, or at least, was almost immediately that way.
>>11847454I literally pointed to the spot in the episode to prove MY point. that also means I've watched that episode and ALL THE REST. and NO, he did not give the matrix to him when he first was changed into Optimus Prime. He was just a new breed of warriorSHOW ME where he says Optimus was made leader there and NOT laterhere show me. I just watched your scenehttps://tubitv.com/tv-shows/126269/s03-e04-five-faces-of-darkness-pt-4and you still haven't explained what the difference is between a Prime and an Autobot leader, because apparently you decided these are two different things, even though NO EPISODE claims THAT
More like the 13 Crimes the way they stole shelf space
>>11847464>the way they stole shelf spaceI never saw any on shelves besides the deluxes
Thinking of getting titan grimlock as a Bday present to myself. Is he worth it?
>>11847457Yeah my misunderstanding was thinking anon was mad about the Lineage of Primes concept, not just that Optimus' last name got co-opted Posting a toy, just for spice
>>11847461>and you still haven't explained what the difference is between a Prime and an Autobot leader, because apparently you decided these are two different things, even though NO EPISODE claims THATThe movie does though.>Ultra Magnus becomes leader>but not the new Prime, and can't use the Matrix
>>11847504no, the movie makes no difference and makes no mention of Prime as anything but a nameJust take the fucking L. Damnit with these people
Look at this chubby little guyI love him
>>11847508>and makes no mention of Prime as anything but a nameBut knowing what we know NOW with a few more decades of established lore, it all fits and makes perfect sense. YES it was a retcon and everyone knows that, cope and seethe and cry more about it. Especially since the G1 cartoon was constantly contradicting and retconning itself anyway. So were the comics.Then cry about how Darth isn't just a creepy sounding first name while you're at it.
>>11847510show the ninja turtle
>>11847519
>>11847518yes, WE all know it was a retcon. YOU HERE>>11847448were saying it wasn't. THAT was the ONLY thing I was arguing with.so shut the fuck up with your cope and seethe shit. You were wrong that's it!Fucking people can't stand to be corrected and argue for 50 more posts about it
>>11847524on the underside of that toy is a Ninja Turtle face. Look.
>>11847533>YOU HERE>>11847448"Me" in that post is the guy saying it was always a retcon, you illiterate retard.
>>11847510with the legs being shaped that way, he seems huge. like those are the carefully balanced legs to support all that mass.
I would like to weigh in on this conversation by saying that freight trucks are not equivalent to western lowland gorillas
>>11847550so then why are you giving me shit? This the umpteeth time I said I was arguing with the guys who said the crap here>>11847200>>11847317It's like you just needed to jump into a conversation for no reason at all just to be a faggot. is that it? Fucking (you) farmerSee, like way too many jerkoffs, this is someone who can't just say, "oops I was wrong" and that's it. He's gonna argue and post and be a jerkoff for the rest of the night.Kill yourself, no one will miss you
>>11847557They are now!
>>11847551Funny that's it's mostly a cheat since the rear four are immobile and it's just the front ones that ball jointed.
>>11847565
>>11847558Because I agree with them? It being a retcon doesn't contradict that. And also because I think you're being an unlikable, hysterical faggot. Go outside anon, this isn't healthy.
>>11847565I'm so cheesed the zoids crossover transformer was so lousy. They should have started with Iron Kong, given us an Optimus Primal. Way easier transformation for one thing.
>>11847570I said fuck off. Conversation is over. They were wrong. The end.
>>11847572All Takara crossover figures are hung up by Japan's need to make crossovers purely focused on the faces of franchises. Hasbro collab figures being original robot designs is a strength.
>>11847576it's weird, that feels like something America would do.
>>11847565it's funny that after years of making him a black-furred (accurate at least) and light gray skinned (ugh) gorilla in the toys, despite him being a lead-furred, indigo-skinned gorilla in the show.. now because of RotB, his default color appears to just be 'root beer'
The new Hot Wheels guys are kinda balanced in a way.Blue guy looks way better but his arm panels pop off if you look at him funny. Red guy is a bit more janky in ways but he's a more solidly built toy.
>>11847609Red has a very annoying arm transformation, and despite knowing how it works, I still struggle to get it right for vehicle mode.
>>11847572They could have used either blade or zero with Lio Convoy's transformation. But they didn't.
>>11847739the legs still would have sucked if they did that, there's no really great way to do cat-legs-to-robot-legs. you can't exactly do the Cheetor/Tigatron Kingdom thing here, paws are too meaty.there's also baffling choices like making the liger thighs super scrawny. I understand why the head had to be so small and neck so short, even if in my opinion, that does ruin it.Lio's transformation would definitely have fixed that
>>11846749>it wouldn't change anything.There are a lot of scenes where Scorponok is standing right next to or in front of of Megatron since hes the second in command and it would have looked really weird if he was smaller than Waspinator.>>11846747It's funny to think that if Dinobot had just kept a cool head and realized it didn't matter if they were on Earth or not (since their whole mission was about getting energon) he wouldn't have challenged Megatron and wouldn't have ended up switching sides. Then the conflict would have been over quickly as 6v4
>>11847783His mission was about the Golden Disk. He wanted Megatron to attempt to change the future because he wanted to know if he was bound by predestined fate or if time was malleable. He wasn't out for galactic conquest.
>>11847783>since their whole mission was about getting energonThat was the cover for the real mission. Dinobot was one of three characters who knew from the start that they were following G1 Megatron's instructions to rewrite the future (the other two being Megatron and Tarantulas). He lost his temper because he thought Megs had botched the whole thing by landing them on the wrong planet, which DID matter.
>Optimus Prime was a bat once>Optimus Prime was an alligator once>There is a Beast Wars Alligator Bat, but he just got gold plastic syndrome and died.
No one asked for a scorponok fish but here it is.
Im still mad they cancelled the Halloween Horrorcons. Soundwave as a bat is perfect. Not sure about ab alligator with giant claws though.
Is Ultra Goatse really from a kids' cartoon?
>>11847841If you think about it Goatse was the very first hand poser
