Have you gotten your tooner Starscream yet, /tfg/? You didn't pay ebay scalper prices after Target nuked nearly everyone's orders, did you?Previous:>>11867044
But I've already gotten like 5 Starscreams.
>>11873065I'm still actually mad about this. First time in years that toys made me actually upset. And I don't even like TFs that much. This is just bullshit.
>>11873065got mine in late June, EBGames got him early.
>>11873065Ah, I remember posters in the /tfg/ saying that there won't be any exclusive seekers this time.
>>11873110If they absolutely had to make one an exclusive, they should have picked Skywarp like the good ol days
>>11873114I know for absolute certain that this was available at Walmart back then, I know because I passed it up one day and regretted it.
>>11873082Same, though most of my rage stems from Starscream being one of my all time favorite Transformers and this being exactly what I want the G1 version to look like. Kind of want to check my local Targets still, but I feel like it would just be wasted time and effort at this point.
>>11873125Nah, Walmart had the Masterpiece Skywarp (which sold so badly you could get it for $20)
>>11873065>And all 5 to rub them in your faces!
>>11873127>nahI was there, I saw it. I got the Floptimus/Megatron 2pack instead and regretted never getting Classics Skywarp. I know it wasn't a Target, my town does not have one of those.
>>11873114people believed that because they saw Skywarp and Thundercracker slated for general retail that there wouldn't be an exclusive.
Jem Blaster and Cereal Prime are up on Pulse.>ships September 1Thats hella stupid.
>>11873165I assumed they were out, wtf
>>11873166This is the first time they've been available outside SDCC.
>>11873167Yeah so I assumed it was stock of what didn't sell at SDCC, not a pre-order.
>>11873170Yeah, I dunno why they waited so long either.
>>11873065There's a rumor going around about the reason these figures were canceled.
>>11873179This guy is making it sound like Target is dumping Transformers all together.
>>11873179>Once things get back to normal (2029)These people have way too much hope
People are very angry at Target right now. This is another reason why preorders should not exist as some others have mentioned on /toy/ recently. If they only put up the orders once the figure arrives in the US, then there would not be these cases of failure to fulfill preorders.
Do you think moving the factories to another country would alleviate costs?
>>11873198Only if its a country not affected by tariffs.
>>11873198No, in fact it would realistically still raise costs for the time it takes to get the new factories and workers up to speed due to inefficiencies that come with work force training and startup costs. And that is assuming a business in those countries would even be open to the endeavor. Only a few countries have businesses that are on the ground running and able to do the complex type of injection molding, painting and assembly of complex plastic toys like Transformers. So there is basically no getting out of this beyond removal of the tariffs.
Imagine if America had toy factories that made the Transformers instead of having them assembled in Vietnam and shipped to the other side of the world.
>>11873179>>11873065Are other countries drowning in Starscreams right now?
>>11873209Lets be honest, even when the tariffs are gone companies won't lower prices again. They'll see that customers are willing to pay more and keep things the way they are.
>>11873082Back when MP Soundwave came out as a TRU exclusive I went around looking for one but they sold out pretty much instantly at every location near me. Then I saw an ebay listing where they had a literal stack of 20 in the photo. Probably the same rage you feel now.
Can I put the original beast wars megatron's head on the reissue version?
>>11873212Then the prices would be triple. So this Starscream people are up in arms about would be about $128.97 instead of $42.99.You underestimate labor costs, overhead and regulatory costs in the US.
>>11873216True but they would stop rising for awhile.
>>11873224What's the profit margin for toys, somehow I get the feeling that we're all being fleeced hard but that's just me.
>>11873220Soundwave was the most bullshit because even if you ordered online it'd go up for for like 30 seconds at 2 in the morning. I know because that's how I got mine.
Maybe I'll use Bishoujo Starscream as a placeholder
>>11873216If customers withold from purchasing at inflated "tariff pricing" they'll lower them back down real quick. People are willing to pay it if tariffs exist, but I for one would go as far as actively cancelling preorders if prices remain high in the absence of a tariff.
>>11873233Yeah, I remember I didn't manage to get it online, so I called around the next morning to see if anyone had it in stock and the only one that did said they weren't allowed to hold one for me. When I got there they were sold out and the employee said I should have called and had them hold one for me. I was so mad
>>11873198No, the pedo in chief just showed that doesn’t even work as he just slapped tariffs on several countries even higher than the ones he has on China.
>>11873138I mean, no one thought making Starscream the exclusive because making Starscream the exclusive is down right retarded.
>>11873229It's hard to get details down to just toys, but Hasbro itself has a gross profit margin of 67.48% as of June 30, 2026*. For toys that would be a bit less because we have to take into account that Wizards is under Hasbro which bolsters their margins higher as Wizards sells people literal cardboard for insanely inflated prices. But you have to also take into account that there is some leeway in MSRP for the store selling the toy itself to also get its own cut, so that leads to even more fleecing of the consumer.* https://trendonify.com/quote/HAS/gross-marginBut we're definitely getting fleeced in some form or fashion.
>>11873237Most people don't even think there are tariffs anymore because news widely reported the supreme court struck down "the tariffs" but few paid enough attention to know that was only a portion of them, and He Who Shall Not Be Named has people working to find new justifications to work around that ruling.Even if most did know, I doubt a significant amount of collectors would have the willpower to stop buying toys they "need" in protest of MSRP remaining high.
>>11873247and Hasbro said "hold my beer"
>>11873247It makes perfect sense for Hasbro.Target says "We need an exclusive toy".Hasbro says "We'll give you this very important character that collectors all want but you need to pay us X million dollars".Target says "Deal".Target pays Hasbro and Hasbro is satisfied after receiving their X million dollars.
>>11872943fun!>>11873001that's when you get legal armor instead
>>11873198If they weren't outsourcing everything for dirt cheap and ducking costs to scam customers they wouldn't be hit by Tarrifs>>11873245Actual and unironically mentally raped child
>>11873247>>11873259There is a leader class Starscream next year. It should be obvious what they are doing here, the Target exclusive is just the core Screamer and the Leader next year will have all the coronation accessories again.
>>11873259>Hasbro: "I consent!">Target: "I consent!">Customer: "Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?"
>>11873263>Comes with coronation set.>tfw also grey become it's also dead Starscream
>>11873263They tend to do this tacit don't they? Get the super popular figure isolated as an exclusive and then later rereleases them again but with more junk to inflate the price.
>>11873263which will also be an exclusive
>>11873265It's rather a shock the Target one wasn't that version since the other two this year were damaged Prime and Megs. Same with the Insecticons, I was full expecting battle damaged decos at at least.
>the company that uses slave labor vs the company that doesn't pay a living wage vs the government making consumer goods more expensivewe live in a society
>>11873269So far the track record the last 5 years has shown they just drop it in the mainline 12+ months later.
>>11873237When has this ever, in the history of the world, worked on a non-essential good?
>>11873271meant for >>11873267
>>11873264Like they ever ask for our consent
>>11873270I think the more obvious issue is people are losing their shit missing out over a toy that they keep making new versions of over and over again, but are not shaking as bad about everything else they will never have due to what's going on. I watched a 41 yo NEET lose his shit he didn't get his Marvel figures when he should have been going insane he's in a world where he can't even escape his parents roof.
>>11873262You can’t even spell the word tariff correctly and you’re calling me a child. Shut the fuck up you mental midget.
>>11873267That hasn't been the MO for awhile, even Crasher and the G2 stuticons were being rolled out into the mainline.
>>11873179Fun idea but these products would have been out at sea back before the preorders went live, they would have arrived here weeks before the official roll out. I think they just canned the preorders then or not have them at all. What I think happen here is what always happens with Target and they don't hold preorders, they just go to the stores to get distributed and that means you are trusting the employees even know they are preorders when they get the cases in and they can hold off the crazy retards crying for toys that come into their stores. My Target got 3 cases of Screamer, Prowl and the Bugs, all were listed as in stock on the app, I was told customers forced the crews to break them out and a few days later all these preorder cancellations happen because the back room lit up with orders to be filled for items we no longer had. Again this isn't the first time they have done that, corporate just assumes all the grunts rolling out the items know everything is on hold with no warning or indicator that the stock that came to store was for preorders. Only way you can make sure you get you item is to either work there or have a friend who works there that can secure it for you.
>>11873294worth noting Walmart also does this with most of their preorders as well. They have the stores fulfill the preorders like it was a main order.
>>11873294When did this change from the old way of doing it where it went to a Target warehouse and they shipped it from there?
>>118732972020 fucked everything up, they couldn't just let product sit in the warehouses for any length so they streamlined the processes, many goods just go straight from the docks to the stores now, most warehouses operate like amazon where they hold 3rd party goods that pay a fee to be listed on Target and others are just "seasonal storage"
>>11873297No room. Some of it is >>11873299 but sales are not doing that great and they just can't afford warehouse full of junk, it's why some Target got Halloween goods back in May and June and why some are now getting Christmas products out now. They are just getting everything out to the stores and the stores are getting very full. Like Kmart before bankruptcy full, so anything that can be put on shelf is being out out.
>>11873294>>11873296>>11873297>>11873299>>11873300Also this is all there is for Warehouses in the US. There is no way all this product goes to those to just sit. More so when most of it comes from the coasts.
>>11873127That two pack was a Target exclusive too, this is all well recorded, basically any TF retail release since 1995 is archived and its availability and price recorded out there on the internet.
>>11873306And this is Walmarts, a little better but consider how many more stores they have vs Targets
>>11873272until very recently, supply and demand was a law.now they just fudge all their numbers and spin yarns for their bosses, and the roles that used to have a vested interest in the economic situation improving are now very much opposed.
>>11873284anon, those go togetheri'm currently in a shitty family home situation that's about to get worse, and anything that interferes with my ability to just have some entertainment, some toys, whatever, makes it ten times worse. because that was my escape.
>>11873306U.S. strategic nuclear target map
>>11873316Yeah for essential goods sure. For non essential goods like toys, if no one buys them, they'll just stop making them. Simple as. How many lines have you seen disappear over the years because people don't buy into them?
>>11873325essential goods can do whatever they want, they're essential. people buy them practically at gunpoint.lines disappear at random because of a random executive choice. But overall, everything does poorly, and many things continue in spite of that.
>>11873316>until very recently, supply and demand was a law.>now they just fudge all their numbers and spin yarns for their bosses,>Mattel, and its co-founders, Ruth and Elliot Handler. Stung by supply chain issues, factory fires, and slumping profits, Mattel executives cooked the books between 1971 and 1973—falsifying financial records and reporting unfulfilled toy orders (including Hot Wheels and Barbie inventory) as actual sales to deceive the SEC and shareholders.It's always been like this.
>>11873284Thanks for dropping by, anon
>>11873317> and anything that interferes with my ability to just have some entertainment, some toys, whatever, makes it ten times worse.Then you understand why they even offered it to you. Imagine how things could have been better if you had no distractions all those years ago? They made you numb to the damage you were doing to yourself. Thanks for playing
>>11873287eventually
>>11873328okay, I guess I meant, the laws worked during the sensible era, the time when toylines and cartoons were huge and made money. Not so much the 70s.
>>11873330It was just making a tease at >>11873270 even your pick relates more to that than my post, clown is trying to talk about all this fuck up stuff when he can't get his toy rather than the last few decades that got him here. Be like getting mad the fire burning down your house caught fire to some of the yard, by that point it's way to late to care.
>>11873335Numbers were cooked then as well. Look at the Enron scandal, the 2008 crash, etc, hell just how did the great depression and Black Monday events even happen?. Just how many bad situations need to happen before people get there were never "good days" it was just a question making a good life.
Takara if you can hear me, please save us
>>11873342Sorry we can't help you as China is closer and buying everything from us
>>11873306How does one of the big 2 US department stores have so few warehouses in the US? Only 10 in the entire US?!
>>11873350technically some of those have two in those dots Such as Pennsylvania and New Jersey both have one in that dots location but it's because what was already mentioned: those warehouses are not mean to store anything long term, it's like a truck pit stop where everything that gets there, leaves usually in the same day. It's suppose to work like a sorting system for the stores where everything gets there gets loaded to trucks asap and then get moving. It's like how UPS and FedEx work, the stores are not suppose to hold things for any length, they are meant to move the product as soon as it gets there.
>>11873354> It's suppose to work like a sorting system for the stores where everything gets there gets loaded to trucks asap and then get moving.Correct and this is never done right which is what leads to those horror stories where one anon checks 9 Walmart's for Ghost Viper and finds nothing while the other anon near a warehouse has an endcap with 40+ of the figure.Trucks just dump everything close by and say "good enough" because the goods are not "evergreen" items that have to be at all stores so they are cataloged in the distribution programs properly.
You will never buy a giant rhino with panel lining all over it for over $200
>>11873357I like the Beast head they gave him
>>11873216It was essentially Covid 2 : Electric Boogaloo : ReloadedThey said "Oh uhh something something Tariffs" and everybody went "oh okay yea that makes sense" and companies ramped prices when they weren't even affectedNow they CONTINUE to raise them because people enabled it so muchNow it's seeing how far they can go before it's too muchCase and example the new $30 FUCKING DOLLAR Deluxes?? Nah fuck that
>>11873357I get they need to do repaints but yeah no interest in this even as a big bwfag who’s bought all the previous mps
>>11873357Just the one time
>>11873367>$30 FUCKING DOLLAR DeluxesYeah I'm out too, I have enough transformers. Shit sucks, I've been collecting since Classics was the new hot shit.
>>11873245>the pedo in chiefBiden's been out of office for a while now, dude. He's still diddling his grandkids, though.
>>11873372they're both diddlers, why go to bat for either of them, let alone the worse of the two like you're doing?
>>11873339I can't believe I have to walk you through this entirelythe 80s and 90s, anon. The 80s and 90s is the period I'm talking about.
>>11873343I need a gif of the scene in The Spiriting Away of Sen and Chihiro where all the greedy monsters who accepted gold from No-face find out the gold was just illusory, and turns to mud in their hands.. but with little labels on it like 'yuan'
>>11873357panel lines, anonpanel lining is the act of adding color TO sculpted panel lines, in order to make them pop, when they are merely sculpted detail, rather than actual physical lines here. in order to make them LOOK like they are physical lines.
>>11873370I wish they made a new take on Classics (especially rodimus) before everything went to shit. Fuck the 13 primes, 2026 made 20 years of CHUG.
>>11873360mutant heads were so fun, though I have to say, Rhinox's was practically a waste. so few differences between the two heads, it's like why would you bother.
>>11873396How would they do it, remake older figures like Classics Astrotrain? I'm not sure what they'd do different.
>>11873198maybe america should start to make their own things and stop relying on third world slavery>BUT THE HECKIN COSTSget over it, pay up or shut the fuck up, is transformers an american brand or not? sto prelying on gooks and chinks if youre this patriotic
>>11873407overregulation has made american industry inherently unprofitable. We have a loud, angry majority who believes profit itself is universally immoral, and want to treat it cigarettes. something to tax and attempt to price people out of. And naturally, the theoretical benefits of those regulations never make it to the workers or customers.
Price of deluxe figures going up to $30>"That's just inflation, things can't stay the same price forever">"Actually if you compare 2010 prices to current prices and adjust for inflation, we are paying the same if not LESS than what we were back then!">"We actually payed more for less a decade ago, this is still a really good deal!"I see arguments like this pop up from time to time and it really fucking annoys me. How consumer-brained do you have to be to think price increases are a good thing? Genuine sucker mentalityAre Blokees any good? They're cheap but I doubt they'll fit in with my collection.
>>11873435blokees seem to be pretty good, and I agree they wouldn't fit with my stuff.
>>11873435>anon just thinks number goes up means bad>doesn't take into account things like inflation and cost of living adjustments/toy/ really is the lowest IQ board on this site isn't it? I mean, I guess what can I expect when users are admitting they've been working at their local grocery store for a quarter century.
Target sacrificed the joy of thousands for their profit margins
>>11873407Transformers is Japanese-American IMO. Both countries had contributions in the design and development process.>>11873435>>11873437Blokees heavily use ABS which is a brittle plastic, so they are more likely to break than standard toys. They have to be treated very gingerly.
>BlokeesNon transforming garbo
>>11873450they are model kits, true.But I am very very tempted to get blokees pokemon. I've resisted pokemon toys for almost 30 years now, maybe once I get more money...
>>11873306>>11873311How the fuck do we in East TN get everything so late if their werehouses are so damn close?
>>11873392Might be talking about the black monday in 1987 where all that bullshiting on the markets over the last 6 years bit them in the ass and Enron scandal was cooking numbers from 1986 to 2001 so that went through he 90s. The post of >>11873316 >until very recently, supply and demand was a law.Is a massive lie/cope. They have fudge all their numbers and spin yarns for their bosses for as long as their has been people alive. Roles of vested interest in the economic situation improving were never real and always opposed. You were just a child so you assumed the best. You then grew up. >>11873463distribution centers are not the docks. Everything from the coast does not distribute evenly. see >>11873354 >>11873356>Trucks just dump everything close by and say "good enough" because the goods are not "evergreen" items that have to be at all stores.
>>11873435It's funny going back to forum posts from a decade ago and seeing people freak out at the notion of a 20$ Deluxe.
I'm a simple man. When price goes up, I buy less product.
>>11873479anonit worked, now it doesn't work. we did things one way, now we do them a very, very different way. every single micro-aspect of every part of existence has eyewitnesses expressing this inescapable fact. Everything right now is backwards from how it was done when it functioned.
>>11873387I'm a Britbong, bro. I'm not "going to bat" for either of 'em. Just pointing out that your previous guy was guilty of the same shit, but no one said a peep about it while he was in office. Hypocrisy is a helluva drug.
>>11873491Your half right, they worked because the bubbles didn't burst, they worked because they could influence the money with other cash they had, they worked because someone would take the hit. What you saw was when it worked for you rather than a functioning system that you always thought was there. It's like someone eating 5000 calories a day, to then become morbidly obese, and complain how eating that much when he started wasn't making him "fat" and something must have changed because he was eating clean and exercising when the reality was he was always reckless with volume and paid the price for it. These actions and bad practices have always been a thing it's just a question of how long they can keep it up vs when it's time to pay the piper. All the companies including toy ones have done this many times over and they never really learn their lesson, they just get better at hiding it.
>>11873393Japan's in a very "Fuck you got mine" mode right now, I really doubt Takara cares they are not getting round-eye ganja money as it was never supporting them anyway.
In fairness, the quality went up when we got those
>>11873508no.. no it's like when you had a functioning metabolism, vs after having major organ damage>>11873511yeah totally. I mean they wouldn't be doing business with china otherwise, despite china actively and openly destroying their economy.
Earthrise Chads remain completely unbothered by this fiasco, meanwhile Studio Series cucks losing sleep questioning the entire world economy and global shipping logistics.
>>11873505if he'd been very blatantly trying to cover up a cabal of pedophiles that he was directly connected to I'm sure there would've been a louder outcry.
>>11873435I collect Blokees Defender versions. You can get a whole box for between $30-$50 each and you get the entire wave plus whatever variant it has. You’ll need the combiner kits for Bruticus, Devastator, and the inevitable Volcanicus.
>>11873540>ER Seeker>modern day MP Holy fuck what a loser
Anyone with a function brain knew that something was going to go wrong the day they announced that stupid MTMTE, particularly the fact that Starscream was in it, amongst all those other figures fans have been clamoring for. Multiple anons called this shit that very day, myself included. I believe my exact words were “This is going to be a fiasco. Screencap this.” Lol
>>11873551A Prowl repaint? Insecticons repaints? Who was clamoring for those?
>>11873550>first OC photo in the entire thread >gets called a loser This tracks.
>>11873554>checks eBay sold listing prices People who actually buy figures
guess it's back to buying old CHUG exclusively
>>11873556People who actually buy figures had the opportunity to buy the Siege Prowl reissue or the DC Insecticons set a few months ago if they somehow missed the releases of Prowl and the Insecticons in the last few years.
>>11873555A loser with shit taste, but if you wanted me to comment on the photo, that's amateur trash too.
>>11873556>anon forgot this is a containment unit for poverty stricken 3rd worlders permabanned from tfw lolLmao even
>>11873560>Shit talking Earthrise while simultaneously >>11873559 suggesting people buy Siege Prowl Dude you are a idiot
>>11873564>ER Seeker and Siege Prowl are the same figureAre you mentally retarded? The ER Seeker was an upscaled Classics figure.
>>11873560Says the guy who has to be egged on for multiple threads before he can work up the courage to post a years old photo of a mishmash of dust covered, clearance priced junk
>>11873567Lmao arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon
>>11873568Holy projection, I'd never post a photo of my belongings for you animals.
>>11873542cough Ashley Diary cough
>>11873585versus being Epstein's best friend and still blocking the full release of the files.
>>11873065Pure evil.
>>11873589>best friend
>>11873435Blokees are a meme because even if you like a figure especially a TF Character you'll want to transform them. That's the entire point of themI just can't bring myself to commit to them anymore than I already have
>>11873554People have been clamoring for a non-dead, non-impossible to get Prowl for years you absolute fucking retard.
>>11873540"Earthrise Chads" and willingly buying that MPG Ginrai shitWild post
>>11873598>PeoplePoorfags, losers!
>>11873597transformers blokees, yeah. they do rather miss the point. though, I suppose I would buy a chug-scale Transmutate. maybe even another BW Ravage since the one we got is.. ehh..
>>11873601Yeah, Hasbro's main audienceWhat about this are you having trouble grasping?
>>11873594they're scum too, but they're not the ones still suppressing the files, nor the ones who put Epstein's partner in crime in a minimum security motel. wanna guess who did? I'll give you a hint: it's the same guy whose tariffs are currently killing this hobby.
>>11873607cool story bro
guys, we get it. you watch that show 'the news.'nobody cares. that show sucks.
>>11873612I accept your concession
>>11873619
Can you trogs fuck off back to /pol/Holy shit
>>11873627I doubt if there's more than one. I think this is the same troll that hits up TMNT general, which is dying now since all the lines are canceled. Just constantly replying to himself larping as fans of two different brands.
>>11873631Necanon shits up plenty of other threads on this board so it wouldn't surprise me.
there he is.
>>11873540siege gods laugh at both
>>11873643>I just HAVE to make everything about my TDS
it's amazing how /3pg/ never has this problemmight have a lot to do with that it's been dead since the 4chan hack but eh
>>11873659its amazing anyone gives a single fuck about third party bootlegs when we all know the raids have been thankfully closely them down one by one
>>11873659oh so it’s this fag explains a lot
>>11873662That's not true though.
>>11873665no one gives a fuck about third part anon, you lost. people want the real deal, not the shitty bootlegs
>>11873643>a pedophileBiden out of NOWHERE
>>11873670Then why lie instead of getting to the point?
>>11873673why cant you third party faggots inderstand you'll never have this much brand loyalty like hasblow has? get over yourself, a bootleg third party gets delayed and no one writes articles about it
>>11873676Zealotry for plastic seems stupid.
>>11873676>brand loyaltyKek, why the hell is that even a thing? I don't give a fuck about who makes my toys - if it's good, I'll buy it regardless of where it's from, and if it's shit, I'll skip it entirely. Anyone who's buying utter garbage just because it's made by their favorite multimillion dollar corporation or skipping on a better quality toy because it's made by someone else is a drooling idiot who doesn't deserve nice things.
>>11873679and you come here to talk about third party in the official thread for attention? hubris?
Hi Athena.
>>11873179Can you link the post or make a better crop?
>>11873682I'm talking about the communities of both official and 3P. Talking about the toys themselves is a diversion.
>>11873683rat
>>11873179Damn, my penis is extremely hard knowing Americans can't buy toys anymore,
I just can't wait until 2029Going by the rate of price increasesWe might actually need something like NY's city run grocery stores for toys if the industry hopes to survive. Parents certainly being priced out.
>>11873659i am very tempted to hang out in 3P sometimes, but I can't afford any of them anyway and they largely stopped making cool beastformers, so
>>11873679we used to care about real things, but...
Im just a simple guy'ate trump'ate biden'ate pedos'ate TF exclusives'ate scalpers'ate hasblow
>>11873697yea all third party make is tiny baby shit or masterpiece bootlegs
>SS ProwlI can't be the only one who thinks the CW one is more than adequate being the cartoon prowl even with his style?
>>11873700Extremely based
>>11873701my wallet is glad, along with the part of me that really, REALLY doesn't want Papa Pooh to get one more American cent, but... there's a weird kind of free feeling to "anything can happen, anyone can make the products that our companies refuse to, or improve the ones we got cheaped out on"really, really wish TMNT figs got unlicensed shit more, and Zoids. there are a few of those, but..
I'll be honest, I didn't care for that nee 86 Prowl. Had they tossed in some new cannons and a proper Prowl head (like on his "I'm dying" version"), I might have sprung for one. I just took a Dying Prowl I bought for 11 bucks and swapped it's head with a Siege junker.
>>11873709I'm more interested in a reissue of 86 Ratchet. That thing sold out immediately in my country
When do you think SS86 Allicon will go for pre-order?
>>11873693every thread
>>11873723no more toys for americans, you did kill toys r us afterall :)
>>11873126I'm just considering waiting for it to be available on the app again and ordering when it is
>>11873726
>>11873179weren't the tariffs reversed recently though? I don't think they'd factor in, unless I'm missing something
>>11873693>>11873726Why do you lust so hard for American toys if you hate them so much?
>>11873733>transformers>americanlast i checked all the woke slop like earthspark flopped for making pronoun episodes while Takara kicks ass again and again
>>11873697Check out robot toys, they’re definitely making some neat beast wars toys
>>11873736>more remake slopyawn, call me when they make something new and original, tired of the same five characters getting made again and again for the retarded masses
>>11873736that's gonna be.. pretty fucking rough to search for
>>11873179I don't know if this makes sense to me still. I'm not a global shipping expert, but haven't hasbro been getting tariff refunds, or does this not apply to them? Plus, the tariffs have still been in play for multiple target exclusives, so something here doesn't add up
>>11873743it's kinda like how we got a new law making it illegal for payment processors to discriminate against legal porn and essentially choke out their right to use US dollars in transactions whatsoever... but nothing changed.
>>11873744was that one just an EO or an actual law? Cause if it's an EO then I think technically it's not binding. then again, congress don't even pass laws anymore, so maybe they should do their damn jobs
>>11873738Ok cool?Maybe don’t collect transformers then?>>11873742Robot toys mp waspinator just released and looks great, looking forward to their rampage they showed off
>>11873746
>>11873745i wouldnt do my job either if I was paid whether I do it or not
>>11873746Ohh they're behind that guy. He's pretty cool, and surprisingly not terrible in beast mode. Yes, I will await their new stuff.
>>11873750He’s definitely great, I’d be surprised if Takara can top itAlso this
>>11873749I really hate that I can't argue with this
>>11873749>socialists can’t argue with this one fact
>>11873751hm..Sorry, I know it's not a popular opinion, but I think rampage needs a redesign. There's no reason for his robot mode to continue to be this tiny teeny little thing that basically clings onto his folded up beast mode like a male anglerfish. It MUST be possible to integrate more of the crab's shell into the robot mode body, and shrink the legs and claws down.. and he shouldn't have a separate beast head like that. at least as an optional part, yknow?>>11873753>>11873755it's not called the SUGGESTION of supply and demand. it's the law. Generosity and mercy are both meaningless when you lack the option to give them freely
>>11873757Sure, but it is going for show accuracy rather than a unique versionI just think it’s neat that they’re going for what looks like real treads
>>11873759And also his nemesis
>>11873757>but I think rampage needs a redesign. There's no reason for his robot mode to continue to be this tiny teeny little thing that basically clings onto his folded up beast mode like a male anglerfish.but want a toy of the character I watched. if you redesign it too much it no longer becomes that. If you want him to appear in a new series, sure, but this is meant to go with 20+ other figures I have that are meant to be show accurate. > shrink the legs and claws down.>shrink..clawsnever do this though.
>>11873700nonono you don't understand all of your guys are pedos but not MY guy!!!!
Not againThe tariff did this. Thank you pedo in chief
>>11873768>due to some reasonswhat, not even "due to unforseen circumstances?" that's just lazy.
>>11873759but the show shrank his kibble down
>>11873764anon, they're massive and ridiculous.. besides I don't think the beast mode needs to change that much at all, it'll be the beast-to-robot ratio that changes most, ideally. just like how newer versions of Rattrap no longer make the entire rat this massive backpack. They've figured out better engineering. The show cheated that stuff all the time, because they recognized how ridiculous some of the transmetals' proportions were getting.In any case, I take it back about the head. this looks fine.>>11873760at least his massive "for a kid to hold" trigger handle thing seems to have been omitted.
>>11873768Nah man Biden's out of office
>>11873735>>transformers>>americanYep, it is, you can check! We do have some gook slaves to do occasional engineering though, we got those when we conquered them in WW2, but the best Transformers toys historically are all-American engineering :)
>>11873794the only thing that is American is bayformers and the tranny shit from IDW and earthspark
>>11873797Sadly delusional SEA yapping, especially since Japan loves trannies! You should look up Ranma 1/2 some time.
>>11873799Rumiko said trannies are insane
>He's STILL seething and bringing up Trump for no reason
The G1 catroon (and thus the toys, and thus the franchise) wouldve never made it without American genius at the helm. That's not to discredit Japanese involvement, but there's a reason why Brave never had the same staying power.
>>11873768No, lack of preorders for a sub par design did this They're not cancelling any of their other tfs
>>11873806>No reasonYeah man, it's not like he's the current President or anything. Global trade is just wrecking itself.
>>11873811if you love toys more than freedom just move to America
I need more MH characters
>>11873370It's worse when you realize a deluxe nowadays is basically what a basic/scout/legends was back in the old days
>>11873400>I'm not sure what they'd do different.Remove the energon hips and find a way to hide the train canopy in shuttle mode. Most of Classics Astrotrain's problems come from him being a deluxe
>>11873825They have been shrinking a lot, same with most Voyagers.
>>11873806listen this thread isn't really going anywhere fun so it's either internet fights or reminders that your life is over.
>>11873827I told everyone what was going to happen with Earthrise Cliffjumper and everyone ignored it.
>>11873809It was the lowest order in the Chinese marker, no idea if that data is just counting preorders or the stores but people were not interested.
>>11873815Enjoy what you like anon but I am so tired of the crossover stuff. >>11873829People were seeing it and calling it out all the way back in Thrilling 30 days moving forward it just wasn't until Earthrise that the excuses weren't as good.
>>11873831>People were seeing it and calling it out all the way back in Thrilling 30 daysOh, absolutely. People just didn't mind it back then because like you said, we had the excuse of the OPEC oil crisis and what not. Earthrise is where it became genuinely indefensible.
>>11873807Because it never got translated into english or imported worldwide. Anime wasn't something you could reliably import and expect to do well until Dragon Ball Z became a worldwide sensation. It didn't help that by the time Brave was established, Transformers was essentially on the backfoot and had been for about 3-4 years at that point.Also, Brave is more popular in Japan than Transformers although that's mostly because it's no longer owned by Takara anymore but in Japan, Brave series lasted about 3 years longer than G1
>>11873815I agree. Fatalis TM2 Megatron and Rajang Primal would be awesome.
>>11873829Most deluxes are still fairly larger than minibots
I really should've just ordered Starscream via HLJ or something, the euro shipments seems pretty in limbo atm
>>11873806What's he done to make your life better?
>>11873736>>11873742Robot Toys made a great MP Waspinator, just Google search for RT Beedrill, he's fantastic!
>>11873892cool bootleg, fucking faggot
>>11873894funny how a bootleg looks better than anything Hasbro's made in years
>>11873896funny how bootlegs just remake the same sloppy shit and don't do anything new
>>11873900so same as Hasbro?
>>11873065I walked into a target last week and saw like five of these fuckers and an insecticon pack andwalked on them because I just purchased a Draco. Kind of regretting it, but I already have thundercracker and the original decos forthe insecticons so what evs...
>>11873900Of course they do shitloads of new stuff, and also G1
>>11873911bootlegs will never make an MP stealth bomber sound wave from earthspark, cuz they're gay
>>11873912neither will Hasbro
I'm just gonna wait for the Starscream/Thundercracker/Skywarp 3 pack.
>>11873925Target exclusive 2029
>>11873925I just ordered the takara version but it looks like everyone else did too as it’s sold out all over.
>>11873732No, only specific ones were and the demons are already making alternate justification for replacements
>>11873179For those that actually want to read it. Screamer never should have been an exclusive to begin with.
>>11873935This is verifiable in the future as it makes specific predictions about products being less stocked in targets in the future. Will Transformers become less carried at Targets?
>>11873912>cuz they're gayM8, if they were gay they'd probably make everything in Earthspark
>>11873941Honesty, I expect all toys save for legos and toddler merch to disappear from B&M stores in the next ten years.
>>11873948Damn. Euro cucks gotta pay all their tax and hard earned money for niggers and browns flooding their shitty little countries
>>11873540>Earthrise Chads remain completely unbothered by this fiascothat fiasco was all 2020/2021.
>>11873935He won't be next year. Most stuff has just become timed exclusives. Also that theory makes no sense because they would have taken those actions a good amount before the preorders went up. The products were already made and in warehouses by the time the preorders were up, most goods take 8+ months to get from warehouse to shore line meaning they might have already been on boats. Counting actual manufacturing and these preorders would have to been listed no later than last Summer for the story to add up imo. Most of this stuff when offered from preoders a few month in advance are already shipping over if not already hitting the US coasts.
>>11873540The Earthrise release was a fiasco since day one and I'm glad I never bothered with that ugly ass mold.
Excusing new collectors who never had the opportunity, why does everyone need to rebuy Starscream every time a new mold of him is made anyway? Why not just pick a Starscream and stick with it?
>>11873969Planned obselesence.
>>11873970Starscreams break after a set period of 3ish years?
>>11873969The last Starscream I got was the Classics one.And the FoC one, the original not the newer one.
>>11873972They explode
>>11873980Only if you have a Megatron in your collection (which is highly likely though), as he can no longer put up with Starscream and blows Starscream up.
>>11873980>WHO DISRUPTS MY DETONATION?
>>11873969SS86 Seekers are the last G1 seekers i'm planning on buying.
>>11873969>Why not just pick a Starscream and stick with it?You say that like the SS86 seeker mold isn't a stark improvement over what came before.I mean, if you want a chug G1 Starscream, your options (that aren't legion/legends/core-class) are>Classics, good for its time but small and very outdated>CW, a weird Jetfire retool>PotP, a mediocre combiner torso that looks like shit in all modes>Siege, great mold but a tetrajet which isn't to everyone's taste plus dumb battle damage paint>ER, just a blown-up Classics, just barely good enough even when it came out
>>11873602>>11873597Blockees got big because of the dog shit state of the main Hasbro line straight up spending the last four years producing nothing but unsellable vomit no one wants like the 13 Primes, video game crap, G2 repaints, garbage OC remolds who get larger distribution than the name characters who's mold they use, RiD '14 bullshit, half assed Armada remakes, and most of all the abortion of frame slop combiners who they drag out the release of rather than dropping the full team at once.If the mainline wasn't beyond salvation, no one would care about Blockees. But it is so blockees became a refuge for people who were told you will buy the 13 Primes and G2 recolors or get nothing at all...
>>11873969Cool Kid SyndromeLil fags got bullied for having hand-me-downs so now they offload old versions and buy new product at scalper prices to show how they're cool and not poor
>>11873703Combiner War works better as IDW SS officer Prowl than milquetoast Grim Lock's favorite bully victim G1 Prowl
>>11873983>he thinks he can stop
>>11873985Why do you need an improved Starscream? It's a representation of the character and it fits its role on the shelf. It doesn't need to be super duper hyper dynamically articulated to the moon
>>11873995The appeal is having a toy that looks like the cartoon you watched as a kid. That's it.
>>11873969>why does everyone need to rebuy Starscream every time a new mold of him is made anyway?Not everyone, last mainline G1 Starscream I bought was the Classics one. I'm buying the new 86 one because I legit think looks great, contrary to every single one they released between the Classics and 86. Having higher standards, not obsessing over competing a roster and diversifying the brands you collect pays off in the end.
>>11873998>The appeal is having a toy that looks like the cartoon you watched as a kid.That's a called "stop being a poorfag and buy the MP"
Yeah good point, I guess I'm simply priced out of this hobby now, sorry Hasbro but you've received my last dollar. Luckily you've got tons of richfags left to buy your $200 toys so you'll be fine.
>>11874001How will you buy the new 86 one when there are less than 204 left in the US in Targets? >>11873935Paying scalpers? Or were you lucky enough to already get one?
>>11873998Yeah and there were many of those already released. We don't need this one to fill Target's coffers or fill the coffers of some scalper.
>>11874007Honestly, pound for pound, I think SS86 is better than MP 3.0. The MP doesn't even have a waist swivel.
>>11874012>Or were you lucky enough to already get oneNope. I'll just wait and see if he pops up on a japanese retailer again or something.
>>11874017This. I have a full set of MP Season 1/2 Autobots and Decepticons but I much prefer my SS86 guys. So much so that I'm debating on selling off my entire MP collection (I'll probably keep my old MP01 Prime though cuz I love that guy)
Guess I'm glad i got my MTMTE Starscream when they first started popping up on ebay in June and managed to score him for only slightly higher than MSRP. I had zero clue it would be so rare.
Toy collecting is a stressful hassle more than a hobby now
>>11874032That's why I just buy to resell. Got tired of this shit happening. Figured I might as well make a little money off of it.
>>11874033>toy selling is stressful so I'm going to make it worse for everyone else
>>11874026While the whole Target debacle really has chapped my ass, I can't say it's been the kick in the pants as it has been for so many others. Yeah, it sucks, but it's not the end of the world. They'll reissue this figure at some point down the line so I'll just get it then. For the most part, I still don't really have too much trouble getting the stuff I want. I guess I just don't think it's as huge of a deal as everyone is making it out to be.
>>11874035Yeah me buying one copy of something really makes it worse.
>>11873969do you think this is somehow exclusive to starscream? The entire franchise subsists on reselling the same dozen characters to collectors every 3 years or so
>>11874015Dude, there have been exactly 6 G1 Starscreams in 20 years and half of them aren't even good.We're not talking about incremental improvement, we're talking about solid robot and jet modes with little bullshit over crap like this.
>>11874040That few?
>>11873935>be me>don't give a fuck about owning "NEW TOONER STARCREAM v3.0.1 WITH 2% MORE ACCURACY">have no issueFeels good not to be a tasteless consoomer.
>>11874040>MP-3>MP-11>Classics>2010 Legends>Generations Legends>Combiner Wars>Power of the Primes>Earthrise>Kingdom Core classI see it now. You aren't counting legends/core class Starscreams, ones that are recolors oof existing Starscreams or don't turn into an Earth-type airplane, as well as non-standard lines (including Cyber Battalion or Authentic). Also no Unite Warriors Ghost Starscream.
>>11874040Prime Wars trilogy was filled with so much abysmal dogshit that was only just barely saved by Takara coming in and fixing half the toys
>>11874057this kind of shit is why I can’t fault anyone for collecting toonslop desu
>>11874040SOVLFVL Wardgem>>11874057SOVLESS IDWslop
Hasbro can kick off their second apology tour by releasing Tidal Wave in his toy / PS2 game colors.
>>11874071we're getting the Energon deco first next year.
>>11874035He just wants to be the one screwing others rather than getting screwed himself. Scalpers are largely disenchanted collectors, who know the tricks of the hunt but for whatever reason no longer enjoy the toys. So now they use the knowledge of what figures will be highly sought after and such to gain money for themselves.
>>11874039I know, I'm just using Starscream as an example due to this latest cancelation making it questionable why people are at the level of outrage as if their collection is now incomplete without this Starscream. Their last Starscream should be enough for them to say "this is shitty but oh well". Only new collectors are really screwed because they don't yet have a Starscream at all or would have to pay ebay prices
>>11874057Look at that beautiful Starscream, he is almost on the verge of yellowing
>>11873969Coronation Starscream is the only Starscream I own, and he's now yellowing. I don't WANT to replace him, but he really looks horrid in my display now that he's getting all miscolored.
>>11874057>Prime Wars trilogy was filled with so much abysmal dogshitEh. If you actually like toys, Prime wars was peak playability, especially Titans Return. If you only look forward to each toyline for how well it portrays the same, tired core characters (that you probably already own 1-2 figures of), then yeah you were probably too much of a pleb to enjoy it.
I see everyone or maybe just one person is having a breakdown over Starscream but don't forget to get your earthspark soundwave and cosmos :)
>>11874081>Their last Starscream should be enough for them to say "this is shitty but oh well".This is pretty much my mindset right now. Yeah it sucks, and I'm pissed about it, but it's hardly the end of the world, nor is it even a big deal on my actual collection since I already have a Starscream. The new one looks much better than the ER one I have, but I'll be alright. It's not like this is going to detract me from collecting altogether. I do think some folks are making too big of a deal about this. Like you say, yeah it sucks, but oh well.
>>11874085It's definitely more than one guy, as we can see on the TFW forums. Dozens and dozens of posters are melting down about this. For their mental safety it should be made law that if a company is going to cancel a preorder, the company have to pay the person double the value of the item preordered as a mental health compensation. That would likely be enough to destroy any preorders and force companies to only put stuff up when they actually have the stock.
What's wrong with the Earthrise ver? He looks serviceable to me. Too small?
>>11874100He is imo. Yeah, the new one looks a lot better, but the ER one is perfectly fine. It's the one I have on my shelf and will be for the foreseeable future unless I somehow stumble upon the SS86 at a random Target.
>>11873995Why would you settle for anything but the best representation of a character on your shelf? Why do you have such low standards? And what's wrong with you that you don't handle your toys?
Any Eurobros got their Liokaiser shipped yet? I've still heard nothing from mine
Does anyone have him? He's my favorite non-Landmine Autobot from Energon and I was considering hunting one down. Do the Combat Class guys hold up as standalones or are they all gattai, nothing else?
>>11874106When you get to around 200+ toys, it becomes pretty hard to handle more than a couple per day or so on a 100 day cycle. Most of the time is spent on the shelf.
Hasbro: Forget about those exclusives! It's time for more BUYING!!Transformers fans: No, Hasbro, no!
>>11874084Titans Return was garbage.>DUDE EVERY SINGLE TOY PARTSFORMS AND HAS HORRIBLE HEADSCULPTS LMAO!!
Is the Optimal Optimus they're re releasing worth it in the current year? I know it's just the Power of the Primes toy with S1 colors, but the BWfag in me is tempted since I never got that one as a kid.
>>11874084Be honest Anon, Titans Return was the only good Prime Wars line. CW wore out its welcome by wave 3 and POTP made the mind-boggling decision to do CW again, only with an objectively worse TR gimmick tacked on.Titans Return was peak. Prime Wars as a whole was mid.
>>11874107September
>>11874109Inferno is one of my favourites too. I think he's the best combat class Autobot by a wide margin and one of the few does hold up on his own IMO. Just don't look at him from behind.Prowl is another good standalone toy and Rodimus is decent.
>>11874100Poor articulation. That pose in your pic is basically the best it can do.I didn't think I'd care that much when I got him but it really does feel like a brick to handle next to other post-Siege toys.
>>11874113It's kind of like the Siege Cybertron Prime, not a bad toy in a vacuum but it's hard to ignore how they just straight up deleted a whole alt mode from the design.
>>11874118Sweet, thanks anon. The only other one I was considering was Roadblock, and he's a retool so he shoulöd also be decent. Thanks!
>>11873998At that point just go 3rd party.
>>11874110>Most of the time is spent on the shelf.Irrelevant. If you handle your toys at all then you will appreciate that they are articulated.We're not talking about shelves of statues here Anon. We're not monsters.
>>11874122People were mad over voyagers going to 43. No way can most collectors afford 3rd party
>>11874125>No way can most collectors afford 3rd partyMost collectors could if they just invested. You would just have to accept just buying one figure at a time but you would be getting more bang for your buck anyway.Honestly though, good riddance. This is a direct result of the forced G1 pandering brought upon by that side of the fanbase who are paying the price, literally. Collectors who just enjoy figures without any nostalgic attachment will either look for cheaper alternatives or pricier figures that are better value for money
>>11874111Good thing I got mine years ago.
>>11874121Expect to pay a pretty penny if you want Roadblock.Here in the UK at least it was genuinely cheaper to import a sealed Super Link Inferno Volt from Mercari than a loose Energon Roadblock.
>>11874134I'm not married to the idea yet. I just really like cranebots and if I'm gonna get one I might as well get one from Energon so I can utilize the gattai gimmick.
>>11874123people have called me a monster
>>11874093They should also give me sex. That'll learn 'em.
>>11874049You forgot Raspberry Starscream, Lady Starscream, Tartar-Control Starscream...
Have you all ordered Gay Blaster yet?
>>11874146Yeah, it already shipped. "September 1st" they said...
>>11874146No. But as a Blaster collector it is going to happen.
>>11874148already shipped?
>>11874150Already shipped.
Starscream is the single worst character to have fumbled this badly. Starscream himself is one of the most detestable cartoon characters ever conceived: a cowardly, treacherous, self-obsessed failure whose defining traits are incompetence, desperation, and an almost pathological need for attention. And then there’s the old saying that we tend to see something of ourselves in the characters we love. If that’s true, Starscream fans have some serious explaining to do.There is no character whose fanbase seems to embody the character’s worst qualities more completely. The level of unironic manchild behavior surrounding Starscream is genuinely extraordinary. To not merely enjoy him, but to deeply relate to him, requires such an astonishing degree of self-identification with cowardice, insecurity, treachery, and pathetic ambition that it borders on psychological self-parody. This Target debacle has unearthed the worst of this community and unleashed them upon the general public.
>>11874152Seems like you're blaming the victims here, anon. Target is the one who opened preorders it couldn't fulfill and then canceled them.
>>11874153A Starscream fan would attempt to victimize themselves. They cry out in pain as they strike!
>>11874152Go to bed, Thundercracker
>>11874146Well the lowest sold was 110 and the highest was 189.99. Guess I better order one to resell.
>>11874024Im feeling the exact opposite. Im asking myself why I keep buying new versions of these characters when I already have the MPs. This is all nonsense
>>11874162heroic nonsense?
>>11873065And people wonder why is this hobby dying holy shitThey should go the way nintendo is doing and start squashing this shit but they will not do that because it gives money short term
>>11874146That's what he's called??
>>11874165He's Blaster's gay brother: Disaster
>>11874163BLAM!>>11874165No, its just Blaster.
>>11874162Because the mps suck ass?
>>11874162It's an addiction. You must work to break it. Hasbro is basically just coasting off the 80s brainwashing TV commercial shows did to kids. Some kind of restitution should be paid, but I don't think the damage would ever be able to be calculated. Millions of kids who should've been protected by the FCC, to keep brainwashing TV shows from airing, are still buying toys of characters from these TV shows 40 years later. Clearly, the brainwashing worked. It damaged people irreparably.
>>11873831I'm tired of it being bad and overpriced, but I like the idea.
>>11874145youuu. very nice.there's been dozens of g1 starscreams in the last 20 years anyway
>>11874162MPs are almost never actually enjoyable to transform, thats the reason I keep falling for it
>>11874177They are masterpieces though. They stand as museum pieces to accuracy. Accurate toys are not going to be fun to transform, because if it's too complex, it stops being fun.
>>11874146I caved, yes. I want the cassettes.
>>11874178nta but if i dont enjoy playing with it why the fuck would i get it
>>11874190Some buy for sculpt, some for articulation, some for transformation
>>11874192>some for articulation, some for transformationI dont get people saying this either
>>11874111Wasnt collecting again when this came out but it looks kinda neat maybe I'll get-and it's sold out.
>>11874071Studio series Tidal Wave would fuck but eat shit we have two more dinobots to get through
>>11874193I think what Anon is saying is he DOES enjoy playing with it, but not transformingmaking it move into different poses, perform actions, etc.. that part's fun, but changing the toy's two modes isn'tthe inverse would be a flip-changer, where transforming it is fun, but the result is a brick
>>11874109Inferno and Roadblock are both excellent, in every mode as well, pants have a smart transformation and shirt has cool cannons
>>11874197anon transforming is part of the play pattern, whenever you transform it or not does not matter as that is for you to decide, i just think those people saying "muh articulation muh transformation" are just people that are ashamed of owning toys for playing
>>11874193Articulation of the robot mode matters more to some. Joy of the transformation matters more to others.
>>11874203yes, and the legs are part of the bodybut you can say you like how someone looks, you just think they have shitty legs. that's how 'parts' work. liking any part, means you like it. disliking a part doesn't necessarily mean you dislike it on the whole. It just means that it's definitely not perfect to you.
Is Big Convoy worth it at full priceI'm so tired
Man, I don't even wanna pay $25 for a Voyager when I find one at freaking Ollies, fuck paying $30 retail for a fucking Deluxe LMAO.Shit's really gone straight downhill with Transformers these past few years, and they still manage to make things worse, goddamn. The day Hasbro gets theirs will be a sweet one, I'm telling 'ya.
>>11874222No
>>11874227Oh
>>11874225Why do you type like someone who gets anons to jerk off on /v/
>>11874222>are you a Beast Wars collector? Yes >are you just bored and looking to grab something? NoI really like him. He’s got shelf presence and he’s actually fun to transform. His kibble is slightly obtrusive to his articulation but it’s not the least bit floppy or unwieldy like the original. His biggest flaw is his kinda small and his proportions are a bit squat. I use his heel spurs to get his legs looking more dynamic. As for the Mammoth mode, I only wish they had done something to cover his chest up. It’s pretty awkward looking. Finally I am really tempted to paint his eyes green like the toy bc currently his eyes look off. I see this guy sitting a lot of places, I do expect him to hit clearance prices but personally I don’t like gambling on this shit anymore bc in my area the instant they hit these prices they vanish.
>>11874225And then what? You pay the same price+price for more paint apps+ import fees or more for Takara's stuff? You buy the $60 3P Legends figures?Who saves you from Hasbro prices?
>>11874225Most likely Hasbro will transition to selling some other kind of product in place of toys, so I'm skeptical the company will ever collapse from their misdeeds
>>11874230I wanted a Big Convoy for years, but was rather unenthused about the figure and Hasbro in general these days. From some photos and angles, it looked like he lacked presence compared to the original, both in terms of height and width, whereas in other photos he looked fine. I never expected him to do that much in mammoth mode other than exist, the chest being visible is a bit disappointing but probably the least worst part to see. I grabbed Grimlock for similar prices recently and he's alright, I think if he can at least pose well, is fun to transform back and forth endlessly, and at least in robot mode has a wide presence, AND goes on sale, I think he'd be alright to buy I think.
>>11873784>anon, they're massive and ridiculousyes that's why they're cool. The original had claws big enough to crush basics and hold deluxes. That's fun play value. I'm glad you will never work on real toys.
Uhh...hasbro is going to make G2 Motormaster right? Asking for a very nervous friend.
>>11874240Yeah, they said so at SDCC.
>>11874236I hope the knock offs for the new seeker mold sell well
>>11874242But they said it last year too...
>>11874246I mean, we just got Wild Rider.
>>11874225I need more mesugaki transformers, or fembots in general
>>11874248Yeah but hes a cheapo deluxe that costs pennies to make. Motormaster is a whole commander class slot
>>11874250Perfect Selects material.
>>11874240Not in 2027.
They should've made all the G2 Stunticons into OC Glup Shittos. It would've tickled my autism and made me buy them.
>>11874261Nothing stopping you from renaming them.
>>11874261Oh, dang! All they had to do was print some different names on the box and THATS what would have got you to finally plunk down the dosh, eh?
>>11873969I’ve never gotten a G1 Starscream, and the SS mold is really good. I’ve only semi recently been actually getting together a G1 lineup.
>>11874257it's somewhat crazy that this G2 stunticon theme started back in 2022 and 5 years later Hasbro still hasn't finished it.
>>11874261Didn't they do that with Dragstrip?
>>11874239by all means, scale him up! I'm super okay with his claws still being able to hold deluxes. We're just tweaking proportions here.
>>11874225You are going to pay $55 for a "Premium" boat that stands on the smaller half of a deluxe.
Toys will die by the end of this decade so better enjoy it while you can
>>11874111I dropped out of buying for a while and I'll be honest, I never really looked up what I had missed but assumed I had seen mostly everything already. But I somehow missed a brand new Optimal Optimus that can also transform into his original robot mode?
>how many versions of (insert character) do you need?Just one version that is representative of the character should be enough if you are not a die hard completionistLike this thing is more than enough to act as MP blaster to go with your Soundwave unless you are a Blaster collectorWith the main line going full cartoon accurate (as best they can, of course). Unless you started collecting a decade ago, there is no reason for you to have more than 2 similar size versions of the same character in 2026. Like did you people actually brought ER Megatron when siege was more functional and superior than ER? And the last good G1 meg before Siege is Titans Return which is almost 10 years ago?
>>11874325Maybe "toys" will, but there will always be things for collectors. Honestly I can't even imagine kids asking their parents for a Transformer nowadays.
>>11874349what are you basing that on? I mean maybe 3d printing will survive, but industry on the whole is going to crash pretty hard. I don't think there's going to be any more injection molders. Can you really imagine a modern young person growing up to operate one?
>>11874349kids WANTS transformers but they do not want the gimmick slop, they want the studio series ones, and its a problem when you have pokemon card tier mafias around
>>11874353This, if you look at any toy reviewer for Transformers or Godzilla there's a ton of kids in the comments who clearly want these toys, but they aren't in their price range. They know the forbidden fruit and can't settle for cheap crap that looks much worse than things in the same budget range from 20 years ago.
Do illegal migrants buy Transformers?
>>11874325Maybe toys you buy, mine are fine. Actually getting my hands on them though is a different story...
>>11874378why the fuck do you think there's always fucktons of cheapo toys with spanish packaging?
>>11874388Because they can send the same package to French Canada and Patin America that way.
>>11874388Superchica would not fly as a toy name on a box in a modern day environment
>>11874396Doesn't everyone in Empowered use Chica?
Does anyone remember what this cost the first time around?
>>11874100He's not bad, but he is a bit stiff - hell, that mold has no waist rotation whatsoever despite the Siege mold having one.Also, Starscream some of the Coneheads are known to have yellowing issues.
>>11874399$69.99. Most heinous price gouging. Has Hasbro ever just reissued an SDCC """exclusive""" like this before?
>>11874111>Rerelease him>Ramp prices $40+ Tax +Tip + Tariff Charge
>>11874351Dawg, you have no idea how much money Bandai Namco makes off model kits an mid-hi end action figures.
>>11874399How is it sold out already. Why are you all gay
>>11874410Fortress maximus
>>11874230I wish hasbro would reverse engineer beastformers from their beast mode first, this is a great example why. The original mammoth mode was no masterpiece, but the new one is just diseased looking in mammoth mode.You mentioning how floppy some Big Convoys get made me so glad my copies are still rock solid, though I always took good care of my Nemesis when I was a kid.>>11874238Very seriously just scrounge up the original used on yahoo Japan or mercari. It pops up for less than 5000 yen all the time. I mentioned it isn't a masterpiece, but it is certainly a work of art, especially considering it was made before the era of computer rendering toys.
>>11874396latinos do not give two shits about correctivo politico.
>>11874396it's literally the straightest possible translation
>>11874238>From some photos and angles, it looked like he lacked presence compared to the original, both in terms of height and width, whereas in other photos he looked fine.He photographs very well from low angles
>>11874413in yenwhich aint doin so good>>11874420yeah I really wish I'd gotten all the variations of that mold, but I did get the korean version for something like that back around 2013, so
>>11874424does make you wonder. do they think tacofolk don't know the word 'girl' ? i imagine they do
>>11874426It's highly annoying that the matrix buster version's cables try to eat the plastic around them worse that rotf bludgeon's treads do...
>>11874425Yeah but seldom am I ever shorter than my own toys you gigantic prancing la la homo man
>>11874325Ok. Thanks. Are you enjoying your toys?
If I couldn't get Starscream, will buying four slightly ugly literal whos instead make me happy
>>11874432I still see some listings for siege rainmakes
>>11874432you could just get Thundercracker or Skywarp. they're probably on sale somewhere
>>11874429seriously? I thought only new rubberized plastic did that.
>>11874430you uhwhat you do is put the toy up on a table, and keep the camera below it...also good reference
>>11874430Buy taller shelves, ya poor
>>11874420>on yahoo Japan or mercari>mercari giving me results for the legacy figure>as well as listings within the US, a country that I in fact do not reside inI'll look into yahoo japan, thanks
>>11874446also keep in mind buying from japan right now is almost a non-option
>>11874432The drama around Starscream is overblown, it's guaranteed to get a reissue down the line.
>>11874442>>11874443no
>>11874448Wait what, why
>>11874449I'll be dead by then
I’m just gonna mix MP and mainline and not one of you can stop me. >>11874325>toys are over Thank goodness they finished the Minibots
>>11874454Iranian war nuked import prices
>>11874454tariffs, shipping increases, and now they're tossing out packages on suspicion of them containing toys, which are now contraband I guess? or subject to additional tax.
>>11874459naw it was before thatI mean, not that there was a time before the war, since it predates this country's founding by millennia, but you know what I mean
>>11874454So those other anons gave you the explanation but not the actual answer which is shipping a single figure from Japan currently starts at around $45 and goes up from there to insane rates like $85 for faster options.
>>11874468Oh and that’s for a Voyager Transformer. Anything bigger you can expect to pay even way more
>>11874468Hey I did say 'shipping increases'
>>11874463nta but shit, I literally just bought some import gunpla. I only thought there were tariffs, you're telling me there's even more bullshit I'm gonna have to pay?
>>11874476I mean, where did you go? buyee?
I wonder if they're making my BWII Galvatron right now...
I like Big Convoy a lot.
>>11874478surugaya
>>11874414BBTS has him
>>11874482hm, not as familiar with that one. it's possible they have a way around it, but the main ones like buyee and yajoo jp... well, among other things, you want them to put labels on it like 'plastic goods for adults' or something, or so I'm told.
>>11874459>>11874463>>11874468Is this an issue for non-Americans/how much of this is an issue for non-Americans, genuine question, as per my earlier mention of not being in the US
>>11874479I bet they are, anon. I bet they are.
>>11874487That depends because generally you will be charged more or less depending if they have to cross the strait
>>11874485are they really destroying toys specifically? fucking why?
>>11874496same reason as always. papa pooh wants to take over the world, and he's smart enough to know this is how you do it.I'm not sure why 'tanking the UK stock market' is something everyone just went 'oh well' to, when they did it so openly and in retaliation for some slight I forget... anyway, clearly nothing we can do. Enjoy the toys you've got. I have a huge customizing backlog.
>>11874498>papa poohhuh? what does xi jinping have to do with importing Japanese toys to America?
>>11874499you're really asking?well i'm not getting banned to explain it to you. talk to your dad.
>>11874501you can't just say "the Chinese are destroying your gundams" and not explain
>>11874504I didn't think I needed to.
>>11874505could you at least point me in a direction where I can find out what the fuck you're talking about? because I thought you were talking about some fucked up US policy and now I'm just lost
>>11874511no you know what, not even risking it.
>>11874496Because China fear mongering. I believe clothing was the primary reason this all came into effect because of how absurdly cheap it was to get clothes from them, and toys got bunched into the mix because lol. This was put into place in Biden's term, but it didn't take effect until recently.
>the industry is dying because I can't buy every single release— something normal people nor parents with kids would do— due to the pricesAmericans really?
>>11874449I'm still waiting on that Classics Skywarp standard reissue to finish my seekers set.
Yeah no fuck it, i hope the chinese make seeker SS KOs
>>11874399>>11874111Fudge I really want him. But idk if he is $100 worth of wanting him......
>>11874353>>11874367>but they do not want the gimmick slopIt's collectors that don't like gimmicks. Gimmick slop has worked for a good 30 years. The real problem with nu-formers is the abysmal engineering and quality. Kids just want fun figures and the figures they're getting aren't fun.
>>11874582this has not been the case in the last 10 years when the gimmick is so unbeliably shoddy, shit man i've seen some kids setting up for core class kingdom figures back when those were a thing
>>11874236>You buy the $60 3P Legends figures?These figures have more articulation, better paint, more accessories and swappable hands.The problem with collecting is that so many of them are doing it out of obligation to fill the nostalgia void in their soul instead of just collecting because they like transforming toys.
why are transformers fans gay and sad and only care about the dumb lore of this series and not the actual toys?
>>11874605I get the opposite impression. When do they ever talk bout lore except the most normie parts of G1 that everyone knows?
>>11874607Most of the lore is contradictory or just stupid to begin with
>>11874236>56.99>3.9 inch figureShit's fucked. I might hate hasbro but at least they can make figures bigger than the palm of your hand for that price.
>>11874120>hard to ignore how they just straight up deleted a whole alt mode from the designThat is bullshit. But, at the same time, at least they added the gorilla hoverboard mode. If I were a Transformer and I had to get somewhere in a hurry, I'd definitely opt for that over the ground assault vehicle mode.
>>11874609Yeah, why go small when you could go big
>>11874230So, I bought the new one, and a few months later found the original in an estate sale lot. They're both good for different reasons. The new one is the most practical: everything fits together nicely and the transformation sequence makes sense. He holds poses better in robot mode, and you really don't have to worry about any joints or kibble flopping about. Unfortunately, it feels like the new model misses the design vision of the original. His proportions are squat and unimpressive. It feels like they also didn't choose to embelish his asymmetry in robot mode. His arms and legs just feel too short. The designers also included features which aren't fully, ehh.., actualized? His anchor misses and tonfas are present, but both are pitifully small and near-nonfunctional. They are present in name only. He's not bad, I DO like him, he just seems that the designers "watered him down" to make him work.
>>11874230>>11874650The original Big Convoy has a lot to love. There's plenty of missile launchers and play features, and the springs all seem like they've held up marvelously. Beast mode even has a soft plastic trunk that moves up and down via a lever in his head! The tusks are also made of a flexible plastic, easier to notice if you happen to heat it up. Robot mode features Vac-metal eyes and a matrix, as well as clear red plastic for one arm and his chest plate. There's everything to love about the presence this guy brings to a shelf, and he. Is. HUGE. Big Convoy dwarfs the original Magmatron like nothing else. Size-mogs like it's his job. His cannon can also be held in one hand, so he can wave it around like a pistol if you so choose. Tonfas and nice and long, perfect for beating the snot out of your other figs. Unfortunately, the guy is a floppy, kibbly MESS. Actually setting him up for a pose is a project in and of itself. Nearly every piece of mammoth is attached via ball join, strut, or both, and it just makes handling him a nightmare. His leg guns are the least issue out of all the kibble, because they rest on collapsible cylinders that slide into the calf and clip in. The transformation is pretty awful too. Everything needs to slot in perfectly to result in an elephant-shaped brick. He's alright to look at, but certainly not impressive. His belly or fur hangs so low at the midsection that he almost seems ball-shaped. I was thrilled to buy this, and still am to own it, but at this point I'm hoping for a masterpiece budget big Convoy that fixes the flaws of both of these guys. There's plenty to love, but neither are perfect. I'll post pics of the old toy after work.
>>11874650>>11874654holy essay slop
>>11874508NTA but look up the July 8 2026 customs rule changes. Anything imported with a customs code conceivably for children now requires a child safety cert, which are usually handled b2b. There is no exemption for small or single item shipments. Customs is also being super strict about what safety docs they will accept. Ostensibly this was because of china knockoffs and cheap dollar store tat with dangerous materials, but it effectively killed individuals' ability to import anything toy or toy-adjacent.
>>11874112>AND HAS HORRIBLE HEADSCULPTTR was a high point for headsculpts. You're drunk.
>>11874666we’re still pretending this looks good, huh?
>>11874673NTA nor defending the general headsculpt quality of the line but that face is based on the original toy
>>11874663christ I really hope I didn't just flush $100 down the drain. it's supposed to be getting here friday so I guess I'll find out soon
>>11874287Yes, I have autism like most Transformers collectors, difference is I've no need to hide it.
>>11874605>>11874607why is everyone enjoying things wrong? They're supposed to enjoy it MY way?
>>11874534Lol>>11874655>nooo stop contributing anything /toy/ related to the board unless you are replying to my useless discussions that belong on /co/ and /tv/
>>11874677The affected codes are here.https://www.cpsc.gov/s3fs-public/CPSC-Guidance-and-HTS-List-for-Filing-of-Electronic-Certificates-6B-Cleared.pdflooks like model kits are affected. May want to try and get ahead of it and get the english CPSC safety documents in case you have to efile, assuming these are also kits imported more generally bandai should have them somewhere.
>>11874673Kups selling point was his body, which could be fan rigged into a mech suit for the headmasters to pilot
>>11874654Would I end up forking over the 300 bones Takara would ask for MPG Big Convoy?Yeah. Yeah I would.What a mark
>>11874378Almost 50% of my eBay sales are to someone with a Mexican name
>>11874491>tfw Prime’s hand was stuck to Beachcombers tire this morning when I separated themYikes! I love those rubber tires so fucking much, a real shame they used some janky ass toxic mix to make em
>>11874705Surugaya picrel so maybe that means they'll have things in order since my items weren't cancelled. idk. they're all sold out limited run kits so I don't know whether they'd have easily available safety documents. how would I go about getting them and filing?
>>11874727I would email their support and ask for guidance, personally. They will know more than you or I.
>>11874720Just loosen the screw
>>11874727I bet all those Starscreams got cancelled because some slacker didn’t fill out the new paperwork properly. They’re probably fixing it now, right?
>>11874261Are you really so un-creative you can't think up some names and personalities for your figures without Daddy Hasbro holding your hand through it?
>>11874261Teardown, Pyre End, Hornet Rider, Chillmaster?
>>11874764This is a cool parallel. I hadn't considered the similarities. Reminds me of how Laser Optimus resembles Ultra Optimus Primal.
>>11874449Yes and no. Will people get their Starscream eventually? Yeah, sure.But there is principle involved here too. There was a time, not too long ago, where pre-ordering meant you were actually guaranteed to get your figure (as is the whole point). People jump through hoops to pre-order these things during a narrow release window only for Target to go "lol nah j/k". I can certainly see why people are upset. Someone was asleep at the wheel here, either Hasbro or Target or more likely both.It's like that Seinfeld episode when the restaurant took his reservation without actually holding it.
>>11874441pretty sure the Matrix buster is a relatively newer version. Came out 2020.
>>11874706>Kups selling point was his bodyLewd
>>11874773If you go to Target's website Starscream is still the face of the Preorders button, which is extra funny to me.
>>11874336>But I somehow missed a brand new Optimal Optimus that can also transform into his original robot mode?the genesis of it was amusing, basically they set up a vote for who would be the new POTP Prime toy, with Primal being the one non-G1 choice,with a lot of people assuming they were trying to load odds in favor of characters like Magnus, Deathsaurus, Star Saber, or Arcee. but having one BW character meant all the BW fan votes went to Primal and tipped the scales. Hasbro was probably dumbfounded by this which is why POTP Optimal is sort of a hodgepodge of ideas. Star saber and Deathsaurus would go on to be realized as haslabs, but we never would learn what the other plans would've been. Some might've been reworked in later lines.Magnus probably would've just been his white Optimus base into Magnus, Shockwave might've has his Siege armor. Arcee, Hound, and Megatron would presumably have gotten new designs. Thunderwing would likely have his Ultra Armor from IDW
>>11874481Me too. It's fun to transform and I actually like the bot mode proportions. The only thing that bothers me a bit is how the horns can't ever be in the cartoon orientation.
>>11874650>>11874654Would you say that the new one is worth the price, or that I should really go with finding the older toy>>11874701And literal /pol/, the occasional /an/ facts can stay because we love animals
>>11874786It's either massive corporate incompetence or intentional demoralizing
>>11874540Already done. It's even got added rear landing gear, fills in the sides of robot mode, moves the shoulders forward into a more natural position and made the thrusters effect part compatible.
>>11874107Hopefully they'll send out the address confirmation email by the end of the month, feels like it's been ages since he came out in the US, they're really dragging their feet this time.
>>11874790which is odd because the same thing happened during their Hall of Fame votes.
>>11874828....may i see it?
>>11874848NTA but I think only a grey prototype has been shown.
>>11874856https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005012860229921.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.3fe3F9AuF9AuFZ&algo_pvid=b594cca4-bda1-4d6a-8a83-056721e6a162&algo_exp_id=b594cca4-bda1-4d6a-8a83-056721e6a162-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%223%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22search%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21USD%2132.93%2117.78%21%21%21221.00%21119.34%21%402103119c17865614220643122e0fbb%2112000059592534227%21sea%21VE%210%21ABX%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29910%3Bd%3Aa5e6a942%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&curPageLogUid=eWrSrWd0vPX6&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3A1005012860229921%7C_p_origin_prod%3ANVM i can finally see>only thundercracker is readyShit
>>11874650He looks like alot of fun, the new one definitely should've been a leader class to really get the proportions and missiles/tonfas right. Takara will probably remold it soon enough.
You people are SUCKERS. Just buy TC or SW or the upcoming four pack and be fine with it.
>>11874876Give me more on-topic slop unironically
>>11874876They are not starscream you fucking faggot
>>11874883Not him but you can repaint them to be. Yes this is where we're at in toy collecting
>>11874152>>11874156And you know it's Thundercracker because Red Wing would have written "lol, lmao, the absolute state of Starscream fans" and gotten off the Internet to do something cool
>>11874887>Not him but you can repaint them to beFucking sickening
>>11874876Not flat. Your entire argument is invalid
Missing Link Devastator except he's also huge and upscaled. I am a genius
>>11874876why did it get all the boxes right except that big one
>>11874902>I will only accept it as Starscream if the paint was applied OFFICIALLY to the plastic toy by a Vietnamese worker
>>11874927not that anon, but I don't trust my shitty customizing skills
>>11874650you can tell the team doing the initial design is not the team that decided what to neuter to lower the price.if only those people could just be fired, and their pay used to lower the product's price that way
>>11874654completely agree.>>11874663that's what they're saying, but this is ultimately to help china, mark my words
>>11874774I did not know that. I'd love if old toys got new versions with new accessories more often>>11874825I think the deliberate guys are hiring the incompetent guysthey're also the ones constantly blaming the LACK of regulation, and too MUCH benefit toward the companies, when the opposite is what's happening
Rope yourself slop poster
>>11874663Will this affect anyone thats outside of burgerland
>>11874707>>11874821>>11874935Here he is! Goodness gracious he IS aa big boy. While I do think he's worth owning, there is no way I'm going to struggle with transforming him for a beast mode pic. It's not satisfying, and Google images can show what he looks like just as well. If you want him, more power to you! I forgot to mention the amount of articulation in his arms. It's all balljoints and hinges, but they're tight enough that it really works. If you'd like him, buy him, but don't overpay. You won't be transforming him back and forth for fun. As a display piece, he's great. As a desk figure, go with the new model.
>>11874957
>>11874821>>11874957>>11874959A final comparison photo for you, anon. Out of the two, the Original release is definitely the pretty boy, but the newer version is the more practical figure. The best version would have the panel folding kibble that our new release sports, with the proportions and aesthetic that the og uses. They're both great, but I have an inkling of a feeling you'll be able to buy the new one for around $30 this year. I hope this helps!
>>11874957I agree with the anon who points out he is not perfect. I really don't care for the silly segmented rubber trunk.do his shoulders actually pivot up and down like that? Or are they just always tilted? man I need to go check my copy. We need a lot more of that joint in toys, yknow let the guys put their arms forward for flying/swimming heroic moves
>>11874970Here are his articulation points. The shoulders do pivot! It's a transformation thing, but we take those wins too
>>11874973exactly. that's what made 90s transformers so good. I have a lot of issues with the japanese exclusives for their tendency to add bizarre gimmicks, awkwardly include the beast kibble such as shellforming, and just generally forget how to be cool, but... you can't deny they have amazing joints and great transformation clearances and junk.
>>11874928Buy the four pack, you get a Sunstorm and three pieces of custom fodder you can mess up on
>>11874999YOU'RE CRAAAAAAZY
>>11874967Thanks for the write-up anonI've got a Blue Big Convoy but Encore Big Convoy has entered my sights as well and I've been starting to keep feelers out for one
>>11874967the more I look at this fat little dumpy piece of shit, whose torso is wider than it is tall by a WIDE margin, the less I want to even buy recolors of himbad enough his elbows would bump into his hips, his shoulders practically bump into his hips.
>>11875029>Encore Big Convoyencore as a whole is such a massive shitfest that better not
>>11875041Is it? Far as I know the only stinker was God Fire ConvoyI've got a few G1 Encores and they're all fine
>>11875042The Air attack optimus primal also was garbage
>TRA GEN Collab Speed Racer>SKU: G3708
>>11875056... I will be very tempted, but I will abstain
>>11875055>MW MegsThey're gonna milk the everloving shit outta that mold, aren't they?
>>11875058I wish I could say I'm surprised by the "it didn't work the last 3 times, let's keep doing it until it does" mentality of modern businesses, but that's how every female in my family behaves. I remember my sister always tried to win tug of war by doing a series of short, sharp yanks, rather than a continuous pull.
>>11875055>machine warswhy??????
>>11873768Windblade and Arcee weren't cancelled even though the troons were sperging out. We finally know how sexy is too sexy to get a toy cancelled for good.
>>11875069Flame toys are still huge cucks for listening to them
>>11875056Holy shit, yes!
>>11875056Have to see it first but im hyped
>>11875062Mark has wanted to do Machine Wars for a while
>>11875056spritle and chim-chim mini bots or we riot
>>11875074
>>11875055>MW Megatron is a Deluxe>RID Skyfire is a VoyagerWhy? These molds are supposed to be the same size. MW Megatron will be shorter than the potential MW Thundercracker and Skywarp. BWII Thrust will be shorter than Dirge.
>>11875056Potentially cool.
Might be able to get a Thunderclash if they are going down the MW route.
>>11875058I hope so, I love the old deluxe jet molds>>11875110My guess is that Skyfire is a retool or redeco that was planned before they knew they were making an updated MW mold so Dirge and Thrust will probably both be made out of the new mold instead
>>11875056I hope it scales with the Hot Wheels collabs
>>11875115Supposedly Motormaster has had a Thunderclash retool ready since Legacy.
>>11875120then why the fuck they arent releasing it
>>11875128They can't even get G2 Motormaster out.
>>11875056They will probably fuck it up big time but I really hope its good. Just refine Animated Blurr's transformation.
>>11874876This image is funny because it combines two things I like, but at the same time my Idolmaster lore autism is deeply triggered by it. First, whenever we see Risa spending her own money by herself it tends to be at cafes and such (and she is usually accompanied by Rika and Mary then). Second, there is a piece of official art where we see her at a toy store, and as you can see, her preference is clearly plushies, play pretend adult stuff and snacks - there are some mecha toys in the background, but you'll notice none of them are near her basket. Three, one of the extra chapters in the U149 manga has Momoka confused about the idea of candy toys, and Risa is the one to explain them but lacks the emotional reaction to them others (like Haru) demonstrate. Therefore, while funny, this idea just doesn't sit right with me. Perhaps next time try having the image feature Tokiko looking with contempt at the viewer for purchasing a Starscream or Reina buying several of them just to sell them for ridiculous scalper prices...just my two cents :)
>>11875120I did not know that. Was this just for Motormaster or were there rumors of retooling the remaining Stunticons into the other 4 car based Turbomasters too?Would of been neat to see either way I guess.
>>11875134Not the slopper but I read all of this
>>11874957>there is no way I'm going to struggle with transforming him for a beast mode picThat bad?>As a display piece, he's great. As a desk figure, go with the new model.Man...>>11874967Thank you! Uhhh if it's not too much trouble, could you have OG Big Convoy just the way he normally is, but make Legacy's profile as wide and impressive as possible? You should have an idea of what I mean because you have the original toy.>I have an inkling of a feeling you'll be able to buy the new one for around $30 this yearIt's 77 CAD or 55 USD right now, what do you know anon, what are you planning on doing to bring the prices down, I'm frightened
>>11875146not him but
>>11874864>the new one definitely should've been a leader classAnon...
>>11875096racer X recolor is certainly likely
>>11875146He's a classic shellformer, and while I think people exaggerate how hard his parts are to get lined up (I've definitely had worse), they are not super easy, and none of them feel SUPPORTED in beast mode. The beast mode is quite hollow-feeling. a little tab here and there is all you get to keep it steady>>11875159I think he meant a REAL leader
>>11875158Gimme. Also>implying that we'll ever get as decent of a sale like that in Canada as the States seem to routinely doI don't know if we ever got those clearanced titans that you guys seemed to regularly get>>11875175>people exaggerate how hard his parts are to get lined up (I've definitely had worse)I have Break and somewhere there should be Dead End and they were rather rather difficult to deal with as a kid, particularly Dead End to get perfectly right. Try finding a copy of the latter if you ever worry you have low blood pressure
>>11875181Dead End? I assumed he just folded up and fit into the shell halves. like, the shell looks significantly roomier than it needs to be, as if the robot mode should have been scaled up to be more proportionate. I mean, the beast mode non-shell parts are already his entire torso
>>11875158Ross sounds useful, but the nearest one is about 40 minutes away by highway.
>>11875158Wow
>>11875055I've got the OGs but I like clones
>>11875188I couldn't tell you, since it's been over ten years since I hid him somewhere away at home to be a fossil for my other robots to find, but the angling had to be perfect for the shell halves to close perfectly, otherwise you'd have unsightly gaps: it literally came perfectly closed in the packaging and then it was difficult to replicate
>>11875214man that sounds dumb.. so weird that that happened.
What mold are we expecting for MW Megs? Or is this one for MW Screamer?
>>11875223That'll be MW Botcon Megaplex
>>11875223I believe MW Megatron will be a repaint and retool of Needlenose since he's a Deluxe class. Unless Mark the designer somehow manages to make a new mold for him which I doubt. MW Starscream is definitely a repaint of Legacy Skyquake.
>>11875223It'll definitely be that mold but I hope they do it right and retool the thruster cape onto him, gives it a very distinctive look.
>>11873567Upscaled means it's the exact same mold but bigger. It is absolutely not the same mold as the Classics seeker.
>>11873757What the fuck are you talking about? Shrink the legs and claws down? What for? The huge kibble is part of his design, he's supposed to be this massive, hulking monster and the wide shoulders and huge legs help sell that.
>>11875249I could easily take Rampage
>>11873746>>11873748>>11873751cool bootleg you fucking faggot
>>11875227MW Megatron will be a new mold that they will repaint / retool into all the Cyberjets. I’m not sure how this is lost on everyone. I’ve seen so many retarded ideas of what he’s going to be like, this is so obvious.
>>11875062Machine Wars is cool, that's why.
i usually didn't care about pricec in this hobby but this is the first time i'm finally priced out of the hobby...I won't be able to complete Bruticus.Onslaught costs amolst 200 euros on ebay because there is no way to find it anywhere.I got just Vortex and it was 28euros which is INSANE. it's...like i bought Vortex last August in another world... There is no way im spending all those money (Brawl is around 80 eur what the fuck?!) on Bruticus.Starscream can go fuck himself.PS:The only cheap thing that i want to buy is that blue Grimlock. he's still around 40 eur and nobody wants him.I will get that grimlock and get out of this hobby. it can go fuck itself.fuck transformers.PS:I wanted to buy Onslaught with Klarna in 3 payments (around 50-60eur each month)....but what the fucknow we are buying transformers and being in debt?what a souless garbagePPS:At least i have Devastator. it's insane how cheap he was compared to what came next...
>>11875229I'm annoyed we're getting this bland ass deco before G1 skyquake
>>11875314>Brawl is around 80 eur what the fuck?!What? I'm European too and Brawl was 42 (already too much anyways). Also Onslaught releases at the end of the month, keep searching to see if some store has stock then and stop looking at retarded ebay prices.
>$30 deluxes by the end of the yearand the worst part the fandom will keep eating it like good goym
>>11875401even if the economy and tariffs get unfucked any time soon (they won't) I guarantee hasbro will keep the new pricing scheme. shit sucks.
of course they're getting price raises loltarget just told hasbro to fuck off with an entire wave because it wasn't worth it for them to deal with
>>11874773It was a car rental reservation.
>>11875396my amazon has just Swindle for preorder. Everybody else is out of stock or overpriced.I just pre ordered him.fuck it...i will build Bruticus and it will be my last transformer. my amazon don't have Onslaught anymore - i wanted to buy him yesterday for 100 eur but...he went out of stock. Maybe your country is different.i will be fine building bruticus as a budget-stretched project over a few months I guess.WOW IS THIS FUN?IS THIS WHAT HOBBY WILL BE NOW FOR US GAMERS????
Hoping leaders stay $60 for 2027 at least.Would be surprised if they go to $65 though.
>>11875407this garbage is not an excuse specially since target just told toys in general to fuck off, not just hasbro>>11875403it's very transparently just greed, i don't give a shit if i kept being called a poorfag but once i get g2 grimlock and maybe big convy i'm done with this shit and just straight up go with knock offs
>>11875261Seething.
FUCK YOU PRICESI WILL FINISH BRUTICUS!!!!!!!!!LITTLE BY LITTLEPIECE BY PIECEI WILL HAVE BRUTICUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WILL WORK HARDERI WILL EARN MORE MONEY SO NO MATTER WHAT PRICES ONSLAUGHT BLAST OFF AND BRAWL WILL BE I WILL BUY THEM!!!
>>11875314I'm waiting for a complete set like they did with Menasor, but with the deluxe price hike I'm terrified of the price.
With this said why is people so harsh on figure packs? aren't they technically cheaper than buying them individually?
>>11875453>I'm waiting for a complete set like they did with Menasorwho the hell wants to pay all that price at once?complete set bruticus will be super giga expensive as well due to him being more wanted by people and current resellers marketThe whole point of combiners if you can just buy 1 toy once (spending around 20bucks on 1 limb) in a while until it's all complete as a robot.
>>11875413>- i wanted to buy him yesterday for 100 eur but...he went out of stock. Maybe your country is different.Onslaught's Amazon preorders are also sold out in my country, what I'm saying is that just after the release date maybe you can find more stock if you search, wouldn't be the first time this happens.
>>11875456Because a lot of the time people only want a couple of figures, if not only one figure, from the set and have to buy a bunch of unwanted figures in order to get them
this is the cheapest onslaught on Ebay.Bros should i go in debt for him???
>>11875461got iti assume there will be some after release date.i'll wait
>>11875407Never happened.
>>11875459Especially in what is likely a toy deco set, that will be even more sought after by some collectors.
>dont like the look of the new seekers>decide to give thundercracker a shot due to sale bringing him down to $25>does some things well but mid overall, easy pass on the rest>4pack wallet destroyer, starscream drama, ko with improvement and way cheaperDodging so many bullets not liking this thing
>>11875459Not everyone is poor bro
>>11875488>bulbous head >oversized cockpit chest>unpainted inner pectorals>arms so void of detail they look like clay blobs >hollow ribcage>big mitten hands with no articulation >Thighs too long and shins too shortThe new seeker mold is ass
>>11875158Im so sick of seeing these amazing ross finds bros, i have 3 near me and none of them ever have shit, i guess i should check in more frequently...
Eh...i was excited for Bruticus at first but there are some parts of it that made me stop caring.1) Swindle is way too yellow and it triggers me with how much he stands out. Just buy Brawl - he's the best as a single transformer.2) I hate how his legs crack in the middle if you pose him.3) Those prices. Blastoff and Swindle are huge ripoffs.If you are not a huge turbo dork - don't buy him. You will be just fine without this expensive huge toy.PS:It blows my mind how great SS86 Devastator is compared to Bruticus. Devy is basically PERFECT.and he has even articulated hands while Bruticus has tiny fists. why... whatever
What the designer of the new Studio Series seeker did was kept the exact same incorrect proportions from the Masterpiece. Yolopark actually perfected the proportions, shoulda copied that. Pic rel, Yolopark on the left MP on the right
>>11875496The reasons you listed are the exact reasons I decided against him. Swindle’s yellow and the retarded ankles were dealbreakers for me. Unfortunately I preemptively sold my CW set so now I have no Bruticus. I also sold my Defensor mistakenly assuming he would be started by now.
Wow, already got my Jem Blaster. Nice.
>>11875500>retarded ankles were dealbreakers for meIt's the main dealbreaker for me. i imagine every time i would want to pose him i would cringe because i don't want to "break" his legs so my autistic fart-brain would stop me from making cool poses because i would think he has his legs broken ...
>>11875503He’s completely fucked from the knees down. Ankles be damned the actual problem is the leg bots are about 50% of the size they should be. He very much has the proportions of a midget or somegnome or something as a result
>>11875314You sound like you shop exclusively on ebay. Stop it.
>>11875501Is he truly outrageous?
>>11875511Truly.Even if should have been the Misfits. Their songs are better.
>>11875513That'll be next year's Soundwave redeco
>>11875510>You sound like you shop exclusively on ebay. Stop it.welcome to Europe bro...Amazon has just normie-level transformers...eveyrthing else is on Ebay unfortunately...
>>11875462That is kind of fair but they are great for people who are starting out, and the recolors can get kind of rare so i don't see much in the way of disadvantages
Speaking of packs, is Hasbro charging people for the four Seekers this year when orders close or next year when they ship?
>>11875519When they ship.
>>11875518I personally don’t have a problem with them but I can understand how it could be annoying for people trying to collect certain groups, like the Deluxe Insecticons or the Decepticon Headmaster Jrs>>11875519Next year when they ship
>>11875519Its utterly hilarious theyre doing a fucking pack with the rainmakers while i still see the siege ones on amazon
>>11875526they're just doing that to fuck over everyone who wants Sunstorm
>>11875532It worked...
Hes pretty cool, more transformers should have glitter plastic
>>11875581Casetes
I'm surprised Blaster sold out and the cereal set is still up.
>>11875587Rosana gets guns when Rewind and Eject didn't
>>11875630fuck did he? was waiting on payday tomorrow to buy him
>>11875630The cereal set is kinda meh. People already have the Optimus Figure and the trailer. Neither are painted much different here. The only unique thing is the tiny Jazz
>>11875633When mine comes in he'll be up on my shop if you want to buy him.
>>11875517https://transforverse.eu/products/onslaught-combaticons-commander-class-age-of-the-primes?_pos=1&_psq=onslaughthttps://www.tf-robots.nl/en_GB/a-108856870/transformers-age-of-the-primes/g1966-transformers-age-of-the-primes-commander-onslaught/
>>11875633Guess they made my decision for me. Wanted the kiss players cassettes but not Blaster.
>>11875630Hes pretty fun, plus once you factor in the exclusive tax he is a pretty decent deal by modern standards.
>>11875249well I liked how he looked on the show better, where they cheated it a bitbasically this is a monstrous crab who transforms into a tiny, tiny humanoid who has to carry the crab, and I want the robot mode part to be enlarged.
>>11875314sorry to hear it, manwe're all going to have to change things that already weren't perfect
>>11875403theyre gonna have trouble selling to -nobody-
>>11873165Would someone explain the point of Blaster? Aside from an emblem it has really nothing to do with Jem & the 3 tapes are Kiss Players. Was it a "Christy Marx makes us do X amount of things with the brand per year" situation?
>>11873372Trump knew Epstein 38000 times.
>>1187359438000 times.
>>11873631It's probably Jin Saotome, the guy who raped Sinno.
>>11873662Go ask your wife for permission to masturbate
>>11875702I don't need to, she's out with her boyfriend tonight
>>11875689I would have been all over it if they went with a kiss style outfit. Black with red accents would have been amazing.
>>11875694>>11875697(pol)
>>11875630>and the cereal set is still up.Huh?
>>11875745https://www.hasbropulse.com/product/transformers-optimus-prime-autobot-jazz-cereal-box-set/G22711L02
>>11875459reminds me of Mahoromatic when Suguru reminisces about his excellent childhood christmases, since that was also his birthday, and his dad would buy him like, the three parts of a combining robot 'this is for your birthday, this is for christmas, and this is for being a good boy!' and then it suddenly occurs to him that his dad only had to make one purchase and he kinda lazied out
>>11875748Oh, that jazz looks cute at least
>>11875630the power of trans rights blaster
I love the SS86 seeker mold and I'm glad I grabbed a Starscream from Ali mere days before the whole Target deal exploded and made him skyrocket in price, he's really cool. I'm only missing Skywarp who's on his way. As for Bruticus I'm waiting for Onslaught and Swindle to get here but other than Vortex who looks really cool, but is a little flimsy, Brawl and Blast Off are really neat toys on their own even without combining. Once I've completed these though... I'm not sure if I'll be buying much else with what a hassle it's become. Maybe that new Lugnut that was announced/leaked? It'll depend on how good it is.
New Bruticus can't Scramble City on account of the frame stuff, can he? I was just thinking about Takara doing a Baldigus repaint in the future, and realized he couldn't be put into his other limb configurations if that was the case...
>>11875694Typical neet lib take. No bro they included his name after Epstein was busted just so you can parrot this crapTrump's DOJ busted the guy and clearly we are waiting for control of house and Senate before we take action cleaning up the country I hate that my transformers hobby is filled with low testosterone men and gays -_- talk to some military people
>>11875804he cant but they will put the baldigus repaint and people will eat it up like good goys
So there's a rumor going around about a Megatron combiner. Does anyone know where it came from or if it's credible?
>>11875839Someone on TFW who apparently has leaked details in the past made some comment a little while back about the 2027 combiner being made up of Megatrons, but English isn't the leaker's first language, and it's unclear if it was meant to be a joke or not. But then fast-forward to yesterday's news that there's going to be a deluxe scale Machine Wars Megatron, and when you combine that with previous leaks of a voyager class G2 Megatron, and a Beast Wars Transmetal 1 Megatron, and the abundance of three upcoming Megatrons has got people thinking maybe the combiner thing is real. Unfortunately, that would suggest G2 Megs would just a be a Brawl retool, and MW Megs would likely be retooled from one of the Aerialbots. No clue if BW TM Megs would be a whole new mold, or possibly even unrelated to the combiner rumor since there aren't any obvious choices from Superion or Bruticus to retool into a dinosaur.
>>11875852>But then fast-forward to yesterday's news that there's going to be a deluxe scale Machine Wars Megatron, and when you combine that with previous leaks of a voyager class G2 Megatron, and a Beast Wars Transmetal 1 MegatronDon't forget the TLK Megatron that we saw not too long ago - there really does seem to be a lot of upcoming Megatrons.
>>11875631Gangmolding issues... This took them too long to give the Eject mold his guns, and they were gangmolded with the Jem keytar! Still, the Jem collab felt like an excuse to fit in the Kiss Players cassettes.Also, my blood boils after finally confirming that the Nexus Prime fiasco is all Hasbro and no input from Takara Tomy. Now I'm sure this time that Takara Tomy are scrambling hard at this point to complete the real Nexus Prime we all know and love from FunPub for their New Legends line. After seeing what the fuck they did to Landquake by making him a jet, I am already convinced to say enough is enough, and put the whole thing in the dirt for Takara Tomy to clean up.
i know they need to reuse the molds, but why do they make shit like this and clear red optimus? does anybody actually buy them?
>>11875863Honestly, the best we can hope is Takara pulling a Menasor and just doing the whole thing as a box set. They can reuse the Superion frame (in red and blue), but with some retooling, like a new chest piece.
wheres enemy anyway
>>11875804>can't do land missionI can't say that bothers me all that much, but yeah.
>>11875870FUCK YOU! NO RECOLOR BULLSHIT! All they have to do is to make everyone from scratch. Design SG Heatwave to not need to detach from the frame as a standalone robot, for example, and reshell the hell out of Blast Off so that he looks a lot like Skyfall this time, including the head.
>>11875880>All they have to do is to make everyone from scratch.So all they have to do... is do absolutely everything. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer that as well, but that's a pretty big demand for Takara just to clean up Hasbro's mess, so I don't know how likely that'd be.
>>11875852That all sounds like bullshit to me unless Hasbro wants a repeat of Nexus prime by making another frame combiner with no frame.
>>11875869I could have seen buying shadow Panther if they used the tigatron mold instead of inexplicably using cheetor
>>11875873another box set with Soundwave three years from nownot Soundblaster because that would make sense
>>11875889that's because he was always a nemeis prime deco for cheetor, he never used tigatron as a base
>>11875893why do you think that instead of thinking the more obvious other way? he was always meant to be 'kind of Ravage' and Ravage in BW even used Tigatron's face. plus a tiger looks more like a jaguar/panther than a cheetah does.
>>11875897because he LITERALLY was a cheetor redeco before ravage was introduced in the cartoon, while said season ravage debuted in quite literally killed interest in beast wars over there in nipland
>>11875900the original cheetor toy's mold was a tiger. that was the initial concept for the toy, cheetor came later, when obviously they went "oh wait, smaller yellow guy, Bumblebee, of course" but shadow panther was not 'literally a cheetor redeco and not a tigatron redeco' because it was the same mold.>season 3 badthat's not a valid argument
>>11875839>>11875852I’m taking overall with a grain of salt since one of the AoEv leaks also said the main theme is meant to be the rise of Megatron after the fall of the Primes, so there being a ton of unrelated Megatron molds also makes sense to me>>11875891Who do we think is going to come with Soundblaster? I’m assuming it’ll be a new Ratbat for sure, and then maybe Wingthing and Flip Sides/Enemy. Either that or they do new mold Overkill and Slugfest, but that’s really pushing it to me
>>11875903>the original cheetor toy's mold was a tiger. that was the initial concept for the toy, cheetor came latercheetor came in the very first wave while tigatron came in the third wave, whatever concepts they planned before release is irrelevant>season 3 bad is not a valid argumentit literally is as its the reason takara don't ever acknowledge transmetal designs (and also because ravage is in S2)
so you are just bad at arguing, okay.
Okay faggot, keep being in laraland lmao
>>11875904I'd be shocked if they did new molds to go with Soundblaster. best we could hope for is Enemy, Howlback, and Garboil, though I wouldn't out it past them to rehash Wingthing
>>11875903The original Cheetor toy started development as a panther/cougar because he was originally going to be an update to G1 Prowl until they decided to make him a new character
do you clean your used transformers purchases?
>>11875915Every time. I just wash them in the sink. They always have dust on them. I’ve even bought a few lots that gave me allergies
>>11875852>long awaited character gets an update>mark ruins it with a retarded gimmickmany such cases
>people pissing and crying over the newsMay I interrupt the usual routine? Should I get the green toy version gun for onslaught/bruticus or the metallic black version?
>>11875915Yeah, wet paper towel usually.
>>11875924metallic
>>11875924Get both so you're prepared for the eventual toy deco set.
>>11875920>mark ruins it with a retarded gimmickIf a toy isn't ruined by a gimmick, then it'll be ruined by lack of budget, factory misassemblies (or actual design flaws) that are difficult to fix, using unofficial pictures they found online as reference materials (which are either mistransformed, a fan-made custom with wrong colors, or have stickers applied wrong, to name a few examples), or just inexplicably bizarre choices made by the designers since they know they'll be able to get the fans to double-dip by releasing a slightly improved version of the figure a few years later rather than trying to get it right the first time. We've gotten to the point where so many easily avoidable mistakes keep happening that whenever a character I like is leaked as getting a new toy, instead of being excited to see it, I find myself dreading whatever's going to be inevitably wrong with it. But then again, maybe my newfound pessimism has just as much to do with how ridiculously high prices have gotten, and maybe I'd be more forgiving if these figures were at a more reasonable cost.
>>11875852really hoping that combiner rumor was just a joke because I swear to God if they fuck up G2 Megatron AGAIN to make him a fucking Brawl repaint...It's the most straightforward tank transformation of all time how is it that the only time they actually bothered to do it properly it was the Classics Deluxe??
>>11875936Same, except I'm actually pretty happy that nobody I care about has been made in ages....but I'm hearing about transmetal megatron and suddenly I'm like, dammit. This will probably be terrible, but even if it's not, I really don't have a fun budget anymore.
>>11875937it is a very straightforward tank transformation, but I feel it still needs work. The way his hands can't clear his massive chest, and how his shins are inherently hollow, has never rubbed me right. Slight modifications, i say. Leave him looking mostly like the original, which was like my favorite transformer before Beast Wars came out. Hell, keep the missile gimmick if you can, because it was the only missile that didn't need a stupid notch at the end for a spring-loaded clip to grip onto. it just flung the shits out, like Iron Kong.
>>11875939oh and the tiny toes. Not saying make them huge, I like that he has bellbottoms on, but.. a little bigger and yknow, real hands. actually, having the hands extend out of the arms a bit would solve that AND the chest clearance issue.
>>11875937>the only time they actually bothered to do it properly it was the Classics DeluxeAnd even that one was hindered by its goofy spinning arm gimmick. Honestly, the closest we've ever gotten to a truly proper G2 Megatron update was probably the tiny legends-scaled figure from the 2008 Universe toyline. It's especially disappointing that Hasbro hasn't faithfully revisited this design at a normal scale considering their insistence on having Megatron transform into a tank. But I guess the problem is they still want his robot mode to look like his G1 gun design, and they're too scared to fully depart from that.
>>11875055>>11875056Reminder that the Mach 5 is actually a white and blue car and if it's solid white that means Hasbro fucked up looking at American exclusive merchandise again.
>>11875689He’s a music themed Transformer. That’s all.
>>11875941>But I guess the problem is they still want his robot mode to look like his G1 gun designLiterally the root issue of megatron's alt mode issue
>>11875939>>11875941I shamefully forgor about the Legends figure. If that thing just had little elbow hinges it would be perfect for the size.My ideal G2 megatron update would be something like the ER seeker where they reused the old classics seeker engineering but for the Classics Deluxe Megs. Same engineering, but with a more accurate sculpt, ankle tilts, wrist swivels, none of that stupid spinny arm shit, and upscaled to Voyager size. It's the easiest slam dunk of all time which is how you know that's exactly what they're NOT gonna do
>>11875942>Reminder that the Mach 5 is actually a white and blue carNot in the anime
>>11875942they can always make two versions, i mean we have red hot rod and pink hot rod.
>>11875926>>11875927I think I will.get both and also get the feetI doubt I will get another Bruticus recolor though and I highly doubt Hasbro can even produce one within a 5 years period. Takara might come out with a gift boxset though- battle Gaia?
>>11875852>Unfortunately, that would suggest G2 Megs would just a be a Brawl retoolDon't piss me off today seriously
>>11875937>how is it that the only time they actually bothered to do it properly it was the Classics Deluxe??Because the Hero mold was so good they didn't need to make another version of it.>>11875939Just change the arms so they work on a turntable system that way the turret can rotate. I feel like current release standards have twisted the way we see these figures and what actually made them so good.
is there a reason Transformers sucks when Americans do it but work great when Japan does it?
>>11875981It varies from shot to shot - sometimes it's all white, and sometimes it has a blue bottom half. The eyecatches before and after commercial breaks tend to show it as the latter.
>>11876025Hasnt it always been japanese engineering to some extent?
>>11876055To most extent I'll say. Every single time the American designers credit some clever transformation they mention a Takara employee. Pretty sure the American side just decides which characters to make, the decos, and what things need to be reworked on a Takara design so it doesn't go over budget.
>>11876025Japanese have higher IQs.
>>11876055Yes, Takara has always developed most of the engineering. And yes, that means also the bad figures. But you have retards like the one going "Takara is now SCRAMBLING to fix these figures and give us our beloved characters as they were INTENDED", but that guy's probably a falseflagging troll since he never actually posts any of his cool Takara figures, and he's probably just trying to start some stupid brand war like they try to do in a lot of other threads here.
Honestly I would pay extra for a Takara fix-it like Leo Convoy on a few figuers. Definitely Armada Starscream with an actual wing sword and port on his back.
>>11876025This is false, it’s not alwaysEver since the cultural Marxists have nepo’d their way into all media, nearly everything has sucked
>>11876041That's just shading
>>11876025We are in dire need for another Transformers anime that's just cool robots doing cool shit
>>11876117I hope Wild King gets a Shinkalion-style upgrade one day.
>>11876116
you autists will cherrypick bullshit for any franchise huh
>>11876132Sorry, I should have worded it in a way zoomers understand.>Hey guys I had the mandingo effect and I'm from the universe where the Mach 5 was a solid white car but now I'm seeing images that it had blue on the bottom ummm the whole universe rewrote itself
>>11876132This seems like a normal concern. A collab vehicle should aim for the likeness of the vehicle.
>>11875904>>11875911There is an upcoming Autobot cassette pack leaked, so I'd be surprised if they didn't make one for the Decepticons. All of these mentioned could go either way with being included with Soundblaster or that potential cassette pack.I missed out on Rumble and Ratbat, so I'd like rereleases of those.
I love casete bots, such a great gimmick
>>11876188A shame Hasbro makes it needlessly dificult to get them.
>>11876200Collectable cheap little guys with lots of colour schemes would sell well these days
>>11876203Hasbro disagrees, which is why they cancelled all the small classes
>>11876207They did bring up that cassettes sell really well. The main issue is they keep bundling them with other shit.
>>11876132They can't help it, that's just the nature of autism in niche fandoms. To be fair tho, its not a hasbro fuckup if they make it all white. I would assume that Tatsunoko have final say on everything from the Mach 5 being an autobot to it having a blue or white underbelly.
>>11875981It was not shading in the anime, it's just blue
>>11876209why can't they just sell them in two packs
>>11876108I am pretty sure the takara engineers get fucked over via hasbro shittery, about the only figure made by americans that is actually good is cyclonus
Well it looks like they didn't give up
>>11876243A 3p just needs to make their own nexus honestly there's no salvaging the official one. I don't blame DNA for putting in minimal effort at first
>>11875056They'll fuck this entirely I'm sure>>11875496>>11876243Man what a fucking mess he isEasily one of the worst of the 3This doesn't look like it fixes jack shitWhat the fuck are the like horns on the shoulders/chest/back??Wings on the legs??Is this some "Oh yea you can connect SS86 Seekers to it" type shit because the fucking comic?
>>11876295Anon, this is Nexus, not Bruticus
>>11876236>about the only figure made by americans that is actually good is cyclonusThe engineering of that figure is based on the old classics deluxe version and they've just been iterating on that over and over. Even the whole combiner wars leg thing came from that old figure too.
>>11876113those people hate the japanese. don't get your flags mixed up, son>>11876107they just have more detailed awareness from being raised from birth to do careful things with shapes and numbers and microtonal notes and all of that. Think about how many letters they have, and how perfectly they have to be written. Little asians aren't just being told 'put the square block in the square hole, yay you did it!' they're being given fucking puzzles and shit. and when you solve the puzzle, you get possessed by the ghost of an egyptian pharaoh
>>11876132I think the issue is more that hasbrony does a terrible job at knowing the products they make or adapt, because they just google it and move on. the person in charge, at the very start of the process, is not being paid well and/or not being supervised.
>>11876299yeah americans are great at adapting japanese things. Just like how southern/urban northern Americans invented Rock n' Roll, but it took Brits to perfect it
>>11876298>Helicopter mold>Double jet legsEven worseHow do you fail the most basic shit?
>>11876304>yeah americans are great at adapting japanese things
>>11876304>yeah americans are great at adapting japanese things.Maybe 30 years ago but the talent pool has dried up thanks to nepohires, credentialism and the shareholder economy. Guys like Kubalsky, Siebenaler and Archer actually had some experience engineering and designed figured around the fact they would transform instead of drawing a robot and a car then calling it a dayThis is even reflected in a lot of the art too. Back in the old IDW days the designs were made with how they would transform in mind as opposed to shit like the stupid flying bike Elita prime transforms into
>>11876309>he says in a transformers thread
>>11876310well yeah obviously, no positive statement applies to NOW.where would you even find an american these days?
>>11876310>Back in the old IDW days the designs were made with how they would transform in mindThis was never consistent
How is newscream compared to coronation greeblescream?
>>11876307>got the red plastic right but not the blueNexus cannot follow through on ANYTHING
>>11876310The Skybound original designs suck so bad it kills any interest I would have had in the series. Get TF some actual mechanical designers again, jeez!
>>11876329No one knows since Target cancelled everyone's pre orders.
>>11876336>The Skybound original designsYou mean literally just Shreadhead, the most basic new carformer one could come withAnd Arcee Magnus, who is mostly the same but with shoulder missiles and bigger pods?
>>11876310That was the altmode they used for months of speculation?
>>11876356Shredhead, Arcee Magnus, Elita Prime, and the new Optimus designs are all really lame. Of them Shredhead is the only one that's kinda cool but it's entirely because of the cool wizard art on the van mode, everything else is just pure autopilot generic car robot design. like asking anyone off the street what they think a "transformer" looks like. And that's kind of my problem with the few original designs so far, they're so bland. There's been uglier transformers, more nonsensical transformers, and aesthetics that I just don't like, but nothing has been this bland and thoughtless to me before. Except for maybe AOTP Nexus prime >>11876307 I hope in the future that Skybound can have more creative designs
>>11876236>about the only figure made by americans that is actually good is cyclonusDesigned by Ittoku Kuwazu.Hasbro "designers" are nothing more than concept artists and colourists.
>>11876362I guess we'll have to see what Megatron wakes up as
>>11876362The only ones praising the comic I would argue are just desperate for any transformers media or have no standards at all (usually both). It's the same with ONE. Very derivative, uninspired and mediocre works where the praise comes only from the fans who genuinely do not understand why nobody else is consuming their slop. What they don't get is when your shit is so derivative and bereft of an identity nobody can really get into it besides people who are already into Transformers.
>>11876362I like Elita-Prime's design, it's like an improved version of the PotP toy.
>>11876389I rarely engage with Transformers media but I thought Transformers One was cool.
>>11876389As someone who is still reading the comic; there was a lot of genuine hype and excitement during the first stretch, Moving a lot of units tooBut, yeah, now through a combination of things (probably most likely the writer change and the honeymoon simply being over) myself and seemingly most have cooled off on itI'm at a "when I get around to it" attitude toward new issues now
>>11876310>Maybe 30 years ago >Guys like Kubalsky, Siebenaler and Archerthose guys were all active like 10 years ago though.
>>11876389Sis learned a bee word today and is excited to use it lol
Skybound comics gore is so overdone and alot of side characters are weak, but Optimus is genuinely the best he's been in years if not a decade. Im so tempted to buy the SS toy but they messed with the head and faceplate color, 86 one was already perfect.
What we need to be getting from Skybound is Skywarp retooled from Mainframe.
>>11876415yeah, I hate when people say 'slop' too. fuckin have some self-respect
>>11876389Or you're the secret third type (me and only me) who just loves wrestling references in anything and Transformers is your second biggest love after it
>>11876416The SS86 Original and the New Bee Kit is all you need
Wait. Why were there 3 casettes from Kiss Players included with SDCC exclusive Blaster
>>11876489Where else would autobot-alligned cassettes they don't wanna do standard retail go?
>>11876489Concert set, they did a tour with the girls that Kickstart the sequel.
>>11876489Mark likes Kiss Players and it was a slick opportunity to get the three cassettes out without actually releasing something with Kiss Players branding.
>>11876492>Mark likes Kiss PlayersWhat the fuck, genuinely based shit in nu hasbro?
>>11876495Yeah its why the Buzzworthy "Animated Universe Autotrooper" came with the Kiss Players Autotrooper head too.
>>11876411>(probably most likely the writer change and the honeymoon simply being over)Elita being a huge cunt and being rewarded for it, and megatron shouting DIE A PERMANENT DEATH as he fucking eats trailbreaker alive aren't what i call high bar entertainmentkirkman is really shit writer
>>11876500>megatron shouting DIE A PERMANENT DEATH as he fucking eats trailbreaker aliveThis was awesome though, fym
>>11876489>>11876490>>11876492I always assumed they'd be Takara-onlies.
Would a toyline of human (or humanoid) Non-Transformer/Transforming Transformers characters from across the series work? Could serve as a second nostalgia cashgrab outlet.
>>11876434Slop.:^)
>>11876523Doubt it. Only like 5 are popular and seem like a problem for scale expectations.
>>11876523Only if they're cute girls
I hope takara releases the KP cassettes at some point
>>11875839He's from China, I bet he meant "combined" as in 4 Megatrons combined in a year for AoE line.>>11875920This, soft rubber wheels that melt paint and plastic and retarded shoulders on Laser OP, Blitzwing and Armada Megatron. Could we get someone better in charge?>>11875936>using unofficial pictures they found online as reference materialsCan China buy those retards out already?
>>11876523Definitely not. I think it would be cool if Marissa Faireborn showed up in GI Joe Classified though.
>>11875852They are fooling you anon based on what you want to think. Consider the following:>In Legacy, Armada Megaton and BW TM2 Megs shared a reissue case where they came out so close together >With three Core sized Megs at that time as well (G1, G2, and Engeron)>with Miner Megatron exclusive with Ratbat>and in SS there was the reissue of Hobo Megarton that year Those were all released in the same span of 12 months. Megs, OP, and BB, always get these wave of releases it's very common and it's troubling that thing have slow down to where people can be fooled so easily.
>>11875852G2 Megs has been leaked as a leader class. It's likely just the 86 series retooled and would explain some of the strange part assembly like the chest.
>>11876586>G2 Megs has been leaked as a leader class.Nope, not quite. G2 Megatron has been leaked as a *voyager*, which would put him as the same size class as Brawl. That said, the leaked TM1 Megatron is the one that's supposed to be a leader, so he wouldn't make much sense as being a part of this supposed Megatron combiner. (Pic related are the Age of Evolution leaks so far.)
>>11876134Dumb millennial troon
>>11876594>>11876586are they not also rerelasing a lot of old exclusives?
>>11876489Jem and the Holograms and the Kiss Players were singing groups https://youtu.be/ImYm6CrR740
If we wanna stretch the Jem & KP connections we could do some dumb shit like slotting a Moon pretool somewhere because Atari eventually goes on to build Artemis & Moon in her 50s. Could say that's a VERY early prototype of Spineshucker that gains sentience because of Synergy or whatever.
How’s the new QC on the new Blitzwing?
>Hasbro
Hope?
I FORGOT ABOUT JEM BLASTER, damn. Am I completely out of luck on getting one?
>see pics of ross finds>Armada nemesis pack>G2 dinobot 2 pack>Big convoy>Check my ross>10+ of that shitty ass deluxe deviation prime and nothing elseEvery fuckin timeAt least i found some neat halloween decor
>>11876756I am so sorry for you bro
>>11876756At least you have that.
excluding G1, what are the oldest molds with the most recent repaint/retool?
>>11876768Beast wars molds
>>11876753Got mine for sale for 140 on my shop.
>>11876756To be fair, the Nemesis pack was super rare anyways, you were never going to find it
>>11873065
>>11876752Why not just sell the fucking thing at other stores?
>>11876787Because Target demanded that only they can. THough maybe it'll change now.
>>11876752I wager this will go like the GIJoe Classified of 2020 and next summer they do a reissue
>>11876789>Ask for exclusive>Cancel the shipmentsWhat is this mental illness?
>>11876794Some say its a tariff thing. Like, they decided the profits they'll make selling them won't make up for what they paid for.
>>11873065haven't been following transformers toys in a while. why is everyone mad and why does it seem like those starscreams are rare?
>>11876802It's Target exclusive. For some reason they won't reveal, Target is cancelling all the online per-orders and its barely appearing in stores.
>>11876804what a bruh momentdo lots of people want those screamers because they look good? what makes him special over the other screamer figures?
>>11876806Its the newest Seeker mold made for Studio Series. Can't speak for myself but everyone says its a huge improvement over Earthrise.Also, ya know, its Starscream. He's one of the biggest faces of the franchise. Thundercracker and Skywarp are mass releases and everyone wants to complete the whole trio.
>>11876810thnx
>>11876756I checked the two near me any only found SS Hatchet and Earthspark Bumblebee
>>11876575Old Snake Classified, when?
>>11876575>>11876834These two are literally on the top of my wanted list in Classified
>>11876787Target did sell it anon. The issue was they didn't hold the preorders, so scalpers ate good by just going to the stores and forcing the employees to sell all there figures that were suppose to be held for preorders. It's how OPs post got 5 was going to the store and just buying the case +1
>>11876752Glad to see they actually addressed it. They'll probably put them up on pulse for members only or something like that.
>>11876903This happen at least three times before with other Hasbro brands and Target one was what >>11876793 where all the sold out Cobra island figures were reissued the following winter and released in the summer. The other was Red Hulk with ML which they did a Fan channel and Target rerelease the following year and the final that comes to mind was Transformers Thrust and others just getting reissued at Target just last year.
>>11876752>>11876903They didn't address shit other than "Yea we see the issue, uhhhh idk man we'll look into it I guess" type shit
>>11876802>>11876806It's a brand new Seeker mold (the War for Cybertron Tetra Jet mold and earth jet retool mold is being retired at long last) and usually Thundercracker and/or Skywarp are the ones that are hard to find while the Starscream version is widely available. But this time, Starscream is the exclusive.Adding to this, Prowl and his Earth mold is next to impossible to find outside a massive expensive as fuck multi pack that Hasbro has been piecemeal releasing individually, combined with the Insecticons suffering from the fact that became of how full of bullshit shelf warmers, Shrapnel and Bombshell were next to impossible to find at retail and the only option to get them is buy the Jap exclusive four pack with skywarp
>>11876912Well they can't do shit in the short term. Even longer if they decide to incentivize people to try again through the new release who had pre-orders and got cancelled for some reason.
Huh. Satsuki's Japanese VA did Blackarachnia all the and BA-likes. So Whitearachnia with a sword and abdomen or chest markings somewhat like a happy face spider seems viable.
>>11876810>Can't speak for myself but everyone says its a huge improvement over Earthrise.Not me. I prefer the Earthrise. The 86, at best, is a sidegrade.What really disappointed me was how much more posable it was supposed to be, and it isn't. Yeah, there's a (slight) waist swivel, but I got pretty good at angle faking with ER mold by twisting their legs. Meanwhile, 86 can't even fold its wings back (so actually less posable in at least one aspect than ER) and doesn't even have a display stand port, so there goes a lot of dynamic poses and displays for the supposed upgrade.
lol
>>11877004You fucking nigger
>>11876806>what makes him special over the other screamer figures?The ER screamer is badly outdated, no waist, nosecone flopping around, outdated transformation, no landing gear, etc. And the 86 one fixes all of that. So of course they made it fucking impossible to get in the US while hong kong and whoever else get it for free.
>>11876981Christ anon I get you are trying hard to downplay a clearly better figure but lol. The wings get out of the way just fine if you simply unpeg them and that (((slight))) waist swivel is enough for most poses besides robotic breaking the back shit. You completely forgot about the back bend to improve flying poses like yours too. I do agree there should've been a robot mode stand port but there's a perfect place for a stand claw behind the waist that is secure. The 86 mold also has a proper stand port for fighter instead of the awful thing on the ER.
>>11877004>43.48The fuck, when did they get so expensive?
>>11877004Sometimes at my usual Walmarts new toys take so fucking long to actually make it to the shelves that by the time they do they're already marked down. So it can be a gamble of actually fucking finding anything at all or finding it randomly at a good price, gotta love it.
>>11877025>The wings get out of the way just fine if you simply unpeg themNo they don't you fucking retard, they unclip away from the shoulder on a completely different plane of motion, but we're talking about being able to hinge and flap like a bird's wings (which they did in the cartoon) which the ER can do and the 86 cannot.All the rest is a lot of seethe and cope just because you don't agree with me.
>>11877037LOL I didn't expect you to break down crying in the first response. I'm sorry I scared you. You're right, ER is the superior toy, don't cry.
>>11877037>bringing up cartoon accuracy in your defenseER starscream proportions are inaccurate and inadequate
>>11877037The only cope is trying to defend the ER mold lmao. Actually it was the same when ppl tried to defend Siege, that mold looks like ass. On other seeker news, that "improved" SS86 KO sadly has a very gummy, derpy looking face.
>>11877085>On other seeker news, that "improved" SS86 KO sadly has a very gummy, derpy looking face.I don't give a shit, the less money i give to hasbro the better
>>11877085Siege is unironically better than ER though. And I dont like tetrajets.
>>11877134>Siege is unironically better than ER thoughit is, anybody who saying otherwise is a nigger
>>11877026Yeah inflation is a bitch bro.
>>11877037I'm going to take wrist and waist swivels over wing hinges any day.
It might be a bit insensitive for me to ask this when the thread is all about how Tfs are getting more expensive, butIs this a good toy to get?Yes I have the moneyand if I do get it, I will put it next to the current Combiners
So what makes it an "Age of Evolution"?
>>11877167From the reviews I have watched it is not worth the money at all. He's small, there are loads of QC issues that lead to weak floppy joints, and the individual robots are pretty lackluster. Which is one thing for a regular retail combiner but when you're paying 500 dollars you expect quality. A new Predaking will come sooner rather than later just wait and see.
>>11877167From what I've seen hes smaller than the current line of frame combiners. I think hes cool looking though, not worth the price to me but if you really like the stylized anime aesthetic I don't think you are going to find a better looking Predaking that transforms.
>>11877153Inflation isn't real.
>>11877045Try harder, faggot.>>11877069>I need my toys to be cartoon accurate!>no not like that!I *don't* care about my figs looking like an animation cell come to life; that's your thing. But if I did...them not having an anatomical ability they did in the cartoon should be at least as much of a blemish to accuracy as perfect cartoon proportions (which the 86 doesn't have either).
>>11877182In the Binder of Revealation story lore bible, its the period that succeds the Age of the Primes. Not much really is done with it, though in the Alligned continuity it's where and when the Predacons came from.
>>11877271I won't say you're wrong for wanting a wing hinge on the SS86 mold, it definitely would be nice, but it's not remotely the issue you're making it out to be. The hinge was a necessity for Earthrise to get them out of the way of the null rays but that's simply not a problem for the SS86 mold. Moving the weapons to the biceps gives them enough clearance from the wings in most poses.
>>11877264It sure feels real
>>11877290I don't want the wings to be able to move just to accommodate the arms or null rays. I want the wings to be able to move for its own sake.The way you feel about the wings is the way I feel about the wrists. There were people beating the drum about wrist rotation a few posts up and while wrist rotation would be nice to have, I guess, ultimately I really just don't care. Meanwhile to me winged characters being able to move and pose their wings is a much bigger deal.
>>11877300Also note that the Datsun molds (both Siege and ER) can move their door wings, the Skids mold can move its wings, etc. So it's not even like hinging wings should be some impossible, super high-end MP level feature here. But because the 86 seeker ticks people's autism box of looking like sweatshop animation, suddenly they don't care.
>>11877300>>11877301Of course putting a hinge in the wings isn't impossible, my point was that it would be a superfluous piece of articulation on the SS86 mold. The examples you offered of the Datsuns and Skids don't really apply to your argument because in both cases the doors articulate the way they do for transformation, not simply for aesthetics.Again, it is unfortunate that the SS86 mold doesn't have hinged wings but clearly Takara ultimately decided it was unnecessary and that wrist and waist swivels would be far more desirable.
The wing hinge on the ER mold isn't very good anyway since it's on the middle of the wing instead of the base so the bend looks bad. Anyway I fully support giving Hasbro shit when they do retarded stuff but it's also funny to poke fun at Takara dickriders. Remember how you were tricked into getting the Dramatic Capture toys and now are reduced to defend the earthrise mold to cope? And that Takara knew we'd be getting a new, actually good seeker mold, new shockwave, new Megatron (I'll give them a pass on Astrotrain, but oh look Takara designed SS86 Astrotrain too!) Remember when they sold you pic related and carefully angled every promo picture so you couldn't see how his legs are planks (much like they avoid showing BW Galvatron's empty calves, and yes, they -could've- added a cover for them). That's not even counting all the dumb design decisions that they definitely are responsible for, or all those gewunner MPs with shit QC. Or Raiden. Or Ginrai. The funniest thing is how Takara boy starts crying immediately when any of this is pointed out to him and moves goalposts and creates excuses for his beloved japanese company because it's cool when they do it. But wait, there's more: he doesn't even own any of them, he just likes to stir shit fellating Takara when he doesn't even buy their releases.
>>11873179>>11873935>They ship all the GIJoe, Marvel Legend, Star Wars to all the Target store no issues>but they claim Target cancel the only set of figures not manufactured in Asia You guys aren't actually believing this made up bullshit right? Something went wrong for sure but the fact no one has confirmed these lies makes it clear it's just someone trying to fuck over you all. It's like how Facebook just tolls old people, the whole goal here is to make your old asses believe whatever you read.
>>11877360BWII Galvatron has a really wide A-stance and I am getting worried he won't be able to stand naturally.
847 posts without a new thread, very impressive
>>11877360Wait so who is "Takara boy" supposed to be here?The guy arguing in favor of Takara seeker design A or Takara seeker design B?inb4>hurr durr they both suck, I am le epic third party fanboy
Oh what the fuck is this shit?
Goddammit a box
I said no box I better not have been charged
Oh wow, I'll get back to you in a minute
Its been over a minute. I hope anon didn't die while trying to kill off the thread with his personal blog.
>>11877365>but they claim Target cancel the only set of figures not manufactured in AsiaVietnam isn't in Asia? GI Joe, Marvel and Star Wars aren't also made in Vietnam?
>>11877407Anon, these threads are only one of two things; blogging or bitching
>>11877407I hope he did.
>>11877402you can ask to not have a box, to get your toys cheaper??
>>11877418If they ask on Ali, yes
>>11877407>no don’t turn this into your blog about toys you bought, it’s my blog about comics and cartoons I pirate
>>11877372well spam of images will help the guy make his new thread where he can talk to himself a lot again
>>11877414>this is your brain on no new toys
>>11877430Im quite interested in his opinions
>>11877409>GI Joe, Marvel and Star Wars aren't also made in Vietnam?No, all the 6inch figures are still made in mainland China, That's Marvel Legends Star Wars, and GIJoe. Mattel makes their MOTU and Wrestlers in Vietnam which Target got plenty of for the current "geek out" event that's what makes this all strange is it's just the Transformers that went this bad, just about everything else had it's distribution just fine.
>>11877432Yes yes I'm sure (You) are. Enjoy your kingdom of samefagging.
>samefag>>11877407>>11877414>>11877434I guarantee all 3 of these posts are (you)
>>11877436Don't involve me in your faggotry
>>11877407I'd much rather have an anon share his experience regarding a new KO of a highly valued mold than the usual yapping. Most anons don't even post pictures of their toys.
>>11877436honestly it's rather fun to think most of this thread was some desperate anon just spamming post over and over again to just try and get replies from real anons.
>>11877438Then why didn't he share it instead of multiple pointless pictures of opening a box at the end of a thread? I'm interested in the KO too, I'll probably buy a Sunstorm version.
>>11877433You sure about that?
>>11877433>>11877444Factories are split and you can find just as many that show both, for example, the retro carded ML Onslaught states it was made in China like most if not all the retro carded X-men figures, likewise the Black series will have China but the first editions for Target that rolled out recently were Vietnam.
>>11877438If you want shared experience 4chan isn't the place for it.Not anymore at least.
>>11877436And yet...>>11877438>I'd much rather have an anon share his experienceExcept that's not what's happening, he's just attention-whoring and posting pictures of a fucking box.>Most anons don't even post pictures of their toys.I agree with this 100%, but I also post pics of my bots all the time, so can't help you there.
>>11877444>Which is a KIND of China
>>11877448>Look, I’m not a Samefag, I’m just the anon wishing death on another anon Great post
>anon got this trigger for being accused of samefagging go ahead and make your new threadget started talking to yourselfand enjoy the dopamine hit you'll get when I grace a (You) in that thread anon
>>11877454When did 4chan of all places become full of such pussies?
New thread?
Nah
>>11877457When was 4chan ever not a place for people like you to throw tantrums over literally nothing?
>>11877455You should spam the thread with pics of all your toys
>>11877467Which happened when?
>>11877457autism epidemic, infiltration from foreign enemies, and botsnow chrissakes make a new thread
>>11877448>inspect elementhownew.ru
>>11877480When does it ever not happen?
new thread >>11877487
>>11877365my joes were canceled along with screamer
>>11873065I was lucky enough to actually find one in-store, bought it, and flipped it for $150.
