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>The World of BIONICLE
Media: https://biomediaproject.com/bmp/
Story: https://wallofhistory.com/
Wiki: https://biosector01.com/
BTS: https://www.youtube.com/@BonkFoundArchive
Magnaleaks: https://magnaleak.github.io/MAGNALEAK/

>Building with BIONICLE
Sets: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catType=S&catString=273
Studio: https://www.bricklink.com/v3/studio/download.page
Guide: https://bioniclerebuilt.wixsite.com/fallingstars/studio-guide-v2
Prototype gallery: https://biosector01.com/wiki/Gallery:Prototypes

>Archive: https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/subject/%2Fbiog%2F

Previous Thread: >>11843772
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last thread's Rahkshi
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>>11878911
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some people are delusional
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>>11878877
Sweet. I need to source some drills for my Toa of Iron since I can't turn up my Rock Raiders chrome drills for some reason.

>>11878911
>>11878912
Pretty cool and relatively subtle revamp, would be interested to see how the spine machetes were attached.
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>>11878950
Guy that made it speaking, you can basically put 5 of these through a Rahkshi back and they hold relatively firmly. Then decorate as you please.
The machetes themselves are actually a bit shit because they don't hold securely in the cone pieces, think on account of the ridged handles. You can probably see where one of them wobbled sideways in the second pic while the figure was being posed. But machetes aside, it is a good way to make a custom spine, just find any minifig-scale blade/spike/tool piece that matches roughly with a Bionicle weapon.
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>>11878973
They just slide in from the back, then? Sounds like a better compromise than the one I came up with. I don't think I have many of those but I'll have to give it a try.
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>>11878942
>I know what I got
Ebay is just completely fucked now.
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>>11878942
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>>11879000
Breddy much, yeah. Might slide back a bit since there's some empty space in the back, but a sixth one would just plain fall out and it's easy to fix it as you go.
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>>11878942
95% of the price is the stupid gray mask
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>>11879620
$7 dollars at most on bricklink for both masks if in same country as seller, even cheaper in europe
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Has anyone ever built those guys? I never see anyone talk about them
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what does /biog/ of my cool MOC

it still needs legs lol
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>>11881182
Reminds me of the dark hunters in a good way, I like the random stud there
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>>11881182
It looks like a real set/combiner.
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>>11881182
It's neat, though I'm having difficulty parsing what it is supposed to be. Some sort of dragon? Which bit is the head? I'm assuming it's the one with the Bohrok teeth and not the thing near the top.
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>>11881190
I had to look up dark hunters, I'm such a lore noob. It does look like that, thanks
>>11881290
ty, it was fun coming up with it
>>11881384
here's a better pic of the head. I need better lighting and angles to stage photos. I really really need to create some legs for this guy so it can finally be finished. I created it like 4 years ago and never got around to making the legs.
it's the build I'm most proud of, because of how complex it is. I have to admit, I did totally rip-off the gold Piraka set with the bulky body that has the Piraka feet in between the two torso pieces. Other than that, totally original build
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>>11881437
I'll also add, the thing extending from the back of the head is like a giant, thick braid coming out and standing up. the transparent red spike pieces are the eyes
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>>11880757
I get that they just did Hahli/Macku and Hewkii/Hafu(really Taipu tho) for the sake of tying into the film and Matoro/Kopeke were basically just there to fill space, but I really do wish they'd done a proper elemental set of 6 instead.
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>>11881499
imo they should have kept the Tohunga design with a new arm that can hold Kohlii sticks and shields, and made 6 2-packs, with Kapura and someone else for the Ta-Matoran rep if they wanted to keep Takua and Jaller on the titan sets
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>>11576571
Well I finally have it in my hands. I don't even know why I bought it but eh, I guess I'll built this mask a body since I don't like the Takutanuva set.
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>>11881510
Sadly, we would still have been much more likely to wind up with MN*G2 literal whoes than an actual full Chronicler's Company.
>>11881919
Yeah, once you actually have it in your hands, the novelty kind of wears off, dunnit.
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>>11881982
It is what it is, here's a tiny body I built on the spot. Some colors are wrong cause I don't have spare parts.
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>>11882140
ay that's sick
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>>11882140
Evil midget vibes
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Hey, to the guy doing bionicle mocs off of slizer and roboracers, do you think it would be possible to do the same but instead its turning Galidor characters into them? Almost certain its not fully possible without a bit of paint for when it comes to doing Nick Bluetooth’s violet but sacrifices must be made
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>>11883856
I like that pink mask a lot. Kopaka if he Ice Planet. Just needs a little antenna.
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>>11883856
I fucking hate that nigger-tier shoulder connection on the right so much.
Anyway, can't say it's something I've ever given much thought to. I suppose aside from the *indigo* there's not really a whole lot that stands out anyway colour-wise.
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>>11883871
The guy who took the pic based it off that
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I feel like the Toa Mata had a nice "cute but cool" look to them
Their proportions, the way they move, etc
I feel like G2 could've done something like that and then went with the beefier designs as their Nuva equivalent
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>>11884137
I've always felt like the G2 guys were going for Nuva energy out the gate. I didn't mind it though, I appreciated how they all had actually different builds in G2, they felt like a genuine reinvention rather than just trying to retread G1, which obviously couldn't ever be totally recaptured.

The Matoran were where I felt G2 really stumbled, they could have been a lot cuter and less samey.
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Ga-Matoran fisherwoman. Very pleased with how articulate it is for something at this scale. The cheese slopes that fill out the hockey foot piece can be removed and replaced by 40598b, the part that looks like a smaller version of Gali's flippers, but I only have one unfortunately. The hands are exclusive the Mr. Freeze set from the Lego Batman Movie which is pretty lame because it's a really nice part.
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>>11884338
Another angle.
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>>11884338
The fuck, how did I never know about those hands? They look super useful for matoran builds
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>>11884339
“Another Angle” indeed kek
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>>11884153
actually giving them names also would've helped
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I love WoS.
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>>11884502
>I consent!
>I consent!
>I don't!
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>>11884591
Sidorak is the one saying "I don't" btw
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>>11884642
Well I figured that went without saying.
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>Biomedia Project's preserved books are mostly someone taking pics of a book he's opened
>The comics have poor image quality
New scans when?
Can't believe Bionicle autism hasn't crossed that line
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>>11884377
They do have names actually....in the supplementary material like those two graphic novels and three chapter books
I don't get why Lego was so hesitant on names
The fucking skeletons in Ninjago all had all unique names and character bios even if most of them became crowd filling NPCs on the show
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>>11884338
nice to see the skate foot piece get more use

though that pin connection seems illegal
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>>11884803
Profoundly so.
But at this point I've seen so much barnigger faggotry that basic technic illegality doesn't so much as faze me.
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>>11884377
imo they should have been new versions of the Turaga or Matoran that combined aspects of most of their incarnations instead of randos, imagine the fanservice with a Turaga Vakama with a disc launcher, a Nuparu with Boxor arm attachments, or even a Matoro with a mask design slightly reminiscent of the Ignika
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>>11884935
The fact that they canceled G2 before we got Makuta is a crime
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>>11884938
Apparently we were supposed to get Bohroks in the third year too, or so I heard
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'd rather see Lego make a small, affordable theme using Technic in creative ways as a spiritual successor to Slizers, Robo Riders, and even the first wave of Rahi for more expensive options than immediately attempt proper constraction with or without system bricks as the focus
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>>11884964
>even the first wave of Rahi
Best case scenario, the lack of new Rahi was a big factor in later Bionicle waves feeling less lively. I fully believe all the big fancy bikes and whatnot later on should have been cool steeds instead.
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>>11884965
I'd fucking adore seeing technic be used for some sort of mechanical psuedo-science speculative evolution esque line with sets that can be interpreted as Rahi with everything be treated as some alien nature documentary
Granted it'd probably bomb
I don't think kids would be into it
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>>11884964
>I'd rather see Lego make a small, affordable theme using Technic

They did release these recently
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>>11885110
...That is proper yellow, right? The image makes it look like skeetorange. Really fucking hope it's not skeetorange.
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>>11885132
Yeah it's normal yellow. There's some exclusive yellow technic pieces

https://www.newelementary.com/2026/08/review-42233-mighty-machines-series-1.html
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>>11885110
Forgot to mention
>that aren't based on real world vehicles
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Bionicles more like Mechanicles am I right
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>>11884964
>>11884965
That was my favorite era. The first 3 years went super heavy into the technic design style, and that is what drew me in. The direction kept slowly evolving in what became CCBS towards the end, which doesn't have the same charm.
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>>11885162
I can kind of see why though
I prefer the 2001 Rahi as an adult now but as a kid I saw them online and thought "Damn these are ugly"
They're fun if you have a strong imagination and appreciate mechanisms in toys but as action figures I can see people prefer the later Rahi sets
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>>11885162
gear functions were the physical soul of bionicle and them being lessened and then removed in 2005/6 played a big part in why the theme started dying imo
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>>11885162
While Gadunka isn't nearly as cool as the Bahrag she still is probably my favorite thing from the Barraki era just because she has a little of that rahi energy. Honestly if the Barraki had just been sold to me as cool, army-buildable trench monsters instead of ancient cursed kings I'dhave liked the whole wave better.

>>11885323
Another reason I like G2 sets a lot despite it all.
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>>11885162
>>11885344
Not a big fan of the Bahrag set, at least for what they're supposed to represent. To me they feel more like Bohrok midbosses. Sure they have the general shape and their bite function is similar to the Bohrok's head smash function, but their lack of compatibility with Krana and Bohroks doesn't feel "Bohrok Queens" to me, if that makes sense.
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>>11885347
i really do wonder why they moved away from the spider concept they had in 2001, they fit the bohrok far better thematically instead of just two random t rexes in a cave
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>>11885350
Probably too difficult to realize with a modest piece count, especially since two are needed in the same set. Would have been great to get Krana compatibility though, with maybe even a special "royal" Krana that's Kanohi-sized and whatnot
Speaking of including two builds in a set, I'll never forgive them for not making the Boxor a double set, would have loved a second Boxor and Matoran
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>>11885164
I remember loving competition technic sets so when I got the two punching guys on treads it felt like an extension of that and loved them to death. I also loved the bug guys but they were the only ones I had.
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I reckon I can build a bohrok in less than 2 minutes. How fast can you guys manage?
>"hard" mode: no sorting pieces ahead.
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>>11885414
Probably about the same, depends how loose the pieces are because some of my bohrok torsos really clutch on those 6L bars and make them a bit hard to set properly
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>>11885414
From scratch? I think it'd take me at least half an hour to dig the appropriate parts out from my collection. Longer if the colors are meant to match official builds. And locating a rubber band without cannibalizing it from an already assembled set? Fuhgeddabowdit!
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>>11885440
>>11885420
Take any bohrok you want, dissensemble it and put parts in a ziploc baggie. Shake it before emptying the parts on the table. Time starts the moment you touch any part.
Sounds fair right?
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>>11884502
Good to see others who enjoy it. I need to get Roodaka still. WIll you post more of your display?
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What do you do with your sets or builds with white pieces.Do you display or keep them out in the open. How do you prevent them from yellowing
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>>11885792
I live in Florida and have never had Lego pieces yellow, y'all just nasty
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>>11885792
Delicious Kreampaka
Mine lives in the basement so he hasn't yellowed much (there are small windows but natural light rarely strikes him and I believe they're polarized)
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>>11885792
I'm almost impressed by how even his suntan is.
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>>11885509
Sure when I get back home.
>>11885792
Dessert edition kopaka
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>>11885509
2nd try
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>>11885509
Moc display
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>>11886138
how much did that kaukau cost you
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>>11886272
Got it in a bulk lot. Dont think I payed more than 50 for the lot. It came with the red ruru as well.
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>>11886328
I wish I was this lucky
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>>11878911
>>11878912
>The last 2 silver Rahkshi went extinct when Roodaka arrived to Metru Nui
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>>11886135
>søy wars
Well, it can't all be good taste.
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>>11886429
>good taste
I think the coomrahkshi ruined things for everyone on that front long before the soi wars.
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>>11886440
Bad taste travels in twos I suppose. But he has a fikou so it's not all bad.
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>>11885164
The only ones I think are ugly as Muaka and Kane-Ra and the Tarakava. Them being a more or less a tiger and bull bust with non-existent lift arm body has always bothered me in a way I can't explain.
And I've always struggled seeing the Tarakava as anything but a weird robot.
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>>11886737
the tarakava are supposed to be crocodiles afaik
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>>11886440
>the coomrahkshi ruined things
Speak for yourself anon.
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>>11886740
I've seen someone say they're mantis shrimp
In the end I believe Tarakavas are essentially pokemons, they take inspiration from various animals to make something new
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>>11886737
>Muaka and Kane-Ra
Those were the ones I distinctively remember thinking were ugly as a kid
I appreciate them more now because I actually saw their neck extending, mouth biting gimmick and I genuinely like the idea of these beasts having tank treads for rear legs
I think one of the problems for me is how the comics would portray them as set accurate as possible while the Toa, Matoran, etc could look perfectly fine and not uncanny in comparison
I think MNOG did a good job stylizing the Muaka (I'm not fond of the movies removing the treads) but I see pic related and I don't see a living being the same way I see the Toa, Matoran, Bohrok, and even other Rahi
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How well do you think a 2x2x1 or even 2x2x1/3rd version of the octagonal bricks would fair for doing mocs and such? Feel these among others go very unappreciated
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>>11886814
I wonder how well a creature with front limbs that are treads, and rear legs that are normal would look as opposed to this
Anyways check this krana I got with a shopping spree I did
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>>11886819
>I wonder how well a creature with front limbs that are treads, and rear legs that are normal would look as opposed to this
I'm picturing something like an inchworm where only the front legs are "real legs" (the treads) and all the rear legs are pseudo-limbs. Maybe it would drag itself around with the treads and attack things by rearing up on its back legs to slam down.
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>>11886138
Make that red Ruru justice and build a Kapura
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>>11886968
Tohunga or matoran style?
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>>11886974
Whichever you like more
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>>11884964
I think the majority would disagree (not counting this thread) - but that's because you get a lot of people who think like >>11885164 explains. People lack imagination as a whole, they want shit to be perfect in form and when it's more abstract, you get whining that it's ugly.
It's why Competition sold so shit, people thought it was ugly and awful. I was huge into the aesthetic back then, and especially now. Technic in that weird transition period of 1997 to 2004 was fucking fascinating, and I miss it every day.
G2 somehow pulling off form AND function was so fucking good. We were so close to an ideal integration between Technic, CCBS, and even System.
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>>11886976
G2 sometimes had function over form, for example Skull Slicer or whatever the name of the four armed one is looks pretty awful at any angle other than it's promo shots because the gearbox sticks out a lot, and let's not even get into Skull Scorpio
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>>11886975
Will that redeem the rahkshi mocs?
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>>11886976
I'm literally the same guy for both of the posts you replied to
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>>11886968
Why would he do that? It's a Ruru, not a Pakari.
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saw in a bulk lot listing on ebay

you could probably make the entirety of ga-koro with this
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Having to dry a bunch of bricks
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How much money are you guys spending on these extinct bionicle pieces?
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>>11887482
I spent 15 bucks for bulk lego
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>>11887482
I just fuck around with my childhood collection
I haven't actually bought any bionicle since G2 ended
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Still don’t like how fragile all of mitchbuilds mocs are, or a lot of mocs in general, focusing more on greeblespam than structure
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>>11887482
hundreds by now

best deals are bulk lots
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>>11886980
They dared to be different
And I love them for it
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>tfw in an alternate timeline we could've gotten little matoran blindboxes
these sets are neat btw, pick one up if you have a couple bucks to spend
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>>11888519
One of the things that soured me on G2 was the masks being what grants the Toa elemental powers rather than auxiliary abilities but it makes sense why that was the case since mask collecting wasn't a focus.
That and mask collecting even being a thing to begin with was a leftover/expansion of the collectable discs and wheels Slizer and RoboRiders established prior.
Even Bionicle would drop the "collect them all" gimmick eventually
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>>11888519
>visible blue and red pins
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>>11887628
I agree. I built one MOC with maximum greeblespam but from then on I've striven for something a bit more playable.

>>11888640
I could swear early in G1 the Toa also lost their elemental powers if their masks came off, but I can't remember if that was actual canon or just me interpreting how the "knock the mask off" game worked lore wise.
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>>11888669
I think without their masks their elemental power is halved but the elemental affinity isn't tied to the specific mask they're wearing
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>>11888640
the collectible gimmick in bionicle was fun for the first few years as it integrated with the story
sure the kraata one was a bit of a piss off due to how many of them there were and how it was impossible to actually make 98% of the auxiliary rahkshi and the disks were a bit boring, but the mask and krana packs were great ideas
imo the disk packs should've come with more of those dual molded metru masks the matoran had
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>>11888672
Yeah, the power is innate to the Toa, but I recall it shutting off if they aren't wearing SOME mask. Which has some interesting implications on its own. Though there's Takanuva, who DOES have a Mask of Light. If he lent that to Tahu, could Taku use Light and Fire? Can the G2 Toa swap powers by swapping masks? Interesting to think about.
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>>11888689
I was gonna say it was metaphorical since it calms people down (but likely with limit since otherwise he'd be spamming Care Bear stares) kind of like the power of heart in Captain Planet
But then I looked it up and it DOES grant literal light based powers so yeah, I'm honestly not sure how much of it is Takanuva himself (if at all) or the mask

>>11888677
I can't tell if you're being satirical or not but while Bionicle's place in Lego's history cannot be ignored constantly bringing up how it saved the company is kind of like a retired athlete bringing up his past accolades
We get you, we respect you, and we thank you but we've heard it enough times already
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>>11888689
>mfw I'm thinking about Tahu with Takanuva's powers so I call him Taku
The funny thing is I caught that typo once and fixed it but missed it on the second Tahu.
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>>11888706
Lego would be fucking dead if Bionicle never existed at all
Hell, Ninjago wouldn't be what it is today if Bionicle never existed to set the framework for Lego themes with an emphasis on story
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>>11888710
Don't engage with chungusfurry. He spends every day seething about bionicle and has absolutely nothing sensible to say.
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@11888723
Not reading all that thirdiebrown seethe lmao, you're so angry that Bionicle saved Lego and your beloved Søy Wars killed it by turning it into overpriced "adult collector" displayslop.
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>>11888720
>star wars saved the brand
Star Wars had licensing costs and year plus long gaps without movies
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>>11888723
>>11888706
Furry from Singapore. nobody likes you Ken.
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>>11888753
>trying to act different
lol lmao furry.
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>>11888756
>>11888760
>going on the same style, again
Furry.
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>>11888746
>>11888753
>The brand, meanwhile, was overextended: international theme parks, a girls’ jewellery line called Clikits, an adventurer called Jack Stone. The 1999 launch of the Star Wars Lego, a spin-off from The Phantom Menace, brought a brief fillip. 'Then, in 2000, when the film was gone, we took another dip.’ The following year, the introduction of the Harry Potter lines and the launch of Bionicle (buildable action figures), temporarily restored the company’s fortunes. Bionicle had first-year sales of more than £100 million. With the Danish kroner strong against the dollar, 'overseas sales were hugely profitable. But that put a fog over the real issues – we had not been able to innovate the core of our product range. And we had nowhere cut deep enough to right-size the company,’ Nipper says.

https://www-telegraph-co-uk.translate.goog/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/6825911/Lego-play-it-again.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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>>11888767
If Harry Potter was so essential to Lego why did they give up on the license several times sporadically?
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If Harry Potter did the heavy carrying why did the article specify how successful Bionicle's first year was instead of Harry Potter?
Yes, you can call Bionicle as the sole savior of Lego hyperbole but to downplay its importance is delusional
Star Wars and Harry Potter were sales successes but they weren't reliable due to licensing fees and skip years
The article made it a point that Lego's sales declined when Star Wars wasn't around the following year
As much as people accuse Lego of treating their original themes poorly (and there is warranted criticism) even they know why having strong original, story based themes is important i.e. Ninjago and all the other themes that came after
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>>11888777
>Doesn't bother arguing against the other posts
Question, what do you think was Lego's top seller in 2003?
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>>11888782
You know you're talking about a skip year right?
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>>11888784
https://brickset.com/sets/theme-Star-Wars/year-2003
Most of the sets released that year were from the original trilogy
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>>11888786
>many of these sets have tripled in value, meanwhile bionicle sets from those times barely doubled.
Cool
How is that relevant here?
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>>11888790
You do know value increases based on demand and scarcity over time right?
Nobody is gonna argue Bionicle being more popular than Star Wars now, that's ridiculous
However, we're not talking about the present and we're not talking about general popularity
The question was what did you think was Lego's top selling theme during 2003 a year without neither a Star Wars or Harry Potter film
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>>11888689
Yes, Takanuva is literally wasting his mask slot doubling up on his own innate elemental power.
>>11888640
I was just thinking about how stupid this was two days ago.
>put gold Hau 'Koto on Kopaka
>here's your Toa of Fire bro
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>>11888795
Again, you're changing the actual focus on the topic
Thr conversation was about actual sales in the moment of 2003, not the accumulated value of the sets two decades later
>should lego stop selling harry potter sets? theres no films getting made at this moment its all based on the old films that everyone loves and still gives money for
That's called nostalgia you dipshit
Nostalgia is made over time and even Lego tries to pander to that for Bionicle when they can
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>>11888801
>yes and star wars sold the most sets
>during a year without a new Star Wars film

>>11888803
>reading comprehension
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>>11888805
>The 1999 launch of the Star Wars Lego, a spin-off from The Phantom Menace, brought a brief fillip. 'Then, in 2000, when the film was gone, we took another dip
Do you seriously think Star Wars sold as well as it did during a year WITHOUT a new film out as it did for a year with one
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>>11888811
It's basic cause and effect
A third grader could understand it
No new film means a decline in sales
Why do you think Nintendo wanted to time the Star Fox 64 remake with the characters' surprise appearance in the Super Mario Galaxy movie?
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>>11888809
>as well as it did during a year WITHOUT a new film out as it did for a year with one
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>>11888803
>I look forward to consoom new Søy Wars product!
The funny thing is you think that makes you look LESS retarded lmao
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>>11888796
>>put gold Hau 'Koto on Kopaka
>>here's your Toa of Fire bro
I wanna argue it COULD have worked in a Kamen Rider OOO sort of way where mix and match is a thing but a perfect combination is ideal to bring out the best in one but then I remembered the Ben 10 episode about why alien fusions were a dumb idea
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>>11888796
I think it works in that certain toa can only use certain masks to awaken their elemental power; basically a key and lock situation
If Kopaka wore Tahu's masks nothing would happen
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>>11888680
Masks were fun because they were actual noticeable accessories to create characters with
The lore based powers were a cool bonus to flesh out the world
The Slizer discs and RoboRider wheels aren't noticeably different from a glance nor do we have an actual idea on what made those discs and wheels different from each other
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>the creature is responsible for half the posts
Man, is THIS how we get to 300 posts? I just want some brick discussion
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>when I hear somebody talking shit about bionicle.
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>>11888680
I don't get why they tried making kraata collectibles, they're not even visible once slotted in a Rahkshi. Same with the Bohrok Kal, you can't see the collectible once it's in use, so it doesn't really matter in the end
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>>11888999
The Krana-Kal at least came with a Kanohi Nuva, and there were only 48 of them. Kraata came with fuck all except the lid piece from the jar and good luck collecting all 252 or however many the fuck.
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>>11888680
>>11888999
I think they just dropped the ball after the 2001 mask packs with their choice of collectables, anything after that did not have the same amount of "usability".
Krana/Kraata were mainly used by bohrok/rahkshi. Nuva masks were unique to the Nuva, etc., and anything after were just projectiles like kanoka, rhotuka, zamors and squids. If someone wanted to build an in-universe character, these did not give that many options.

Compared to the 2001 masks which were more versatile, and Lego showed this with every single 2001 set having and using a different colored mask, including the rahi.

I think the biggest fumble was choosing Kanoka disks over masks in 2004.
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>>11889069
>>11888680
Matoran masks (silver-moulded Noble masks) in 2004, Metru masks in 2005. Simplas.
>>11888822
Mo' like Semen Rider.
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>>11888999
Having the Kraata be creatures that can act independently from Rahkshi might even have been meant as a bandaid for that problem, but there's only so much that can be done in the writing room to make a textured piece of rubber appealing.
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>>11889050
Is there even a comprehensive Kraata checklist? I know there's some text only lists but with how the color variants are on those you really need an image to go along with it.
>>11889069
Not only should they have kept up with mask packs but they should have done Matoran part recolor packs. Like how they're two toned/colored builds imagine getting a parts pack where you have enough pieces to build two Matoran with two colors each, including masks. I'd pay $12 for something like that in 2003 money.
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>>11889069
The disks over Kanohi kinda made sense since part 1 of Metru Nui was all about them hunting for them, but Lego really should have made mask packs by the time the movie was coming out.
The real crime was Rhotuka, Zamor, and squid ammo over mask packs.
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>>11889216
unfortunately the metru storyline is fucked because of the movie
the disks and the morbuzakh was entirely just to waste time until the movie was out, much like the kal for the mask of light movie
iirc only 2005 managed to integrate somewhat alright with the movie, but i don't know much of what happens in it outside of the movie
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>>11889231
>but i don't know much of what happens in it outside of the movie
Vakama abandons his team and works with Makuta to fight a bunch of combiners
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>>11889239
while cool in isolation, time trap would have immense negative consequences for bionicle going forwards
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Anybody used the spoon from the injun homemaker set ever?
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>>11889318
What are the connexion points on that thing?
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>>11889337
Bar, just a bar, nobody tested anything yet
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>>11889302
You mean besides introducing the most obnoxious donut steel character with one of the shittiest combiner designs (at least top 5) ever?
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>>11889455
Which was that?
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>>11889457
The "Shadowed One", of course.
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>>11889479
I'll never understand why they gave this nigga three legs.
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>>11889455
it introduced the dark hunters/ brotherhood of makuta/ order of mata nui clusterfuck
before that the dh were just makuta's goons
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>>11889481
And a tail, jackal cunt
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>>11889481
It's not even a third leg, it's some sort of weird fucking tripod/kickstand/tail. He's shown as two-legged with a tail elsewhere, but in the official combiner photo he's squatting on it like he's having a shit.
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>>11888965
Not getting this guy is probably my biggest regret of G2. He was doing the saw shield thing before Doomguy made it cool.
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>>11888689
Is Takanuva ever shown using a secondary mask? Is he even able to?
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>>11889482
The order of Mata Nui is the funniest shit ever
They're hyped as this super important thing but their lack of set presence, if they have images at all, makes them feel like "Trust me they're a thing, I can't show you but they're a thing trust me"
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>>11889857
No, and I don’t think so unlike the other mata/nuva
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>>11889857
No, for no clear reason. Yes, because he's a Toa, duh.
>>11889907
The Nuva are only unique in the sense that they were specifically provided with a full set of each other's masks, but any Toa can use an alternate mask if he's got his Bluetooth set up with a Suva. And, y'know, gets ahold of a spare mask. Vakama, for example, was able to use the Vahi without actually taking off his Huna (he was connected to the Suva because he was using it to store ammo). The film, of course, shows it worn over his Huna, but that's more to do with the films' weird phobia of showing a bare head/face because Tahu didn't have it over his Hau Nuva when he used it.
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>>11889857
I imagine the only reason he never did was because the concept was effectively dropped by that point. Was there even one single case of mask swapping that didn't involve legendary Kanohi after 2003?
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>>11889940
That too. I think the closest thing to them even remembering Toa could use other masks was that stupid "organic masks" excuse to justify the Inika not swapping masks around (but really mostly to justify the atrocious fucking rubber masks and smooth heads).
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>>11881982
Ngl a bionicle anime would be infinitet more entertaining than the average gundam slice of life slop
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>>11889857
Yes and yes. He used one of the inika masks very briefly before going "nah sticking with the avohkii".
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>>11889965
Why would he stick with a mask that does what he already can do by himself?
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>>11889965
>>11889954
>no organic Avohkii
Damnit, that would have been funny
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>>11889482
>>11889865
Greg's donutsteels that don't even have a model like Helryx or his billions of toas are an afront to Bionicle for me
Bionicle isn't a story/universe with toys as a bonus, it's a toyline with a universe attached to it. The sets are a big part of what makes the characters what they are, do you really think the Bohroks, Rahkshi or Brutaka would have as many fans if they didn't have physical models? To put focus on characters you don't even have a picture of is retarded
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>>11889982
Brand recognition, I guess.
Also, retards will cite the
>heh um but ACKCHUALLY the Avohkii lets him make people feel happy sunshine feelings
crap but I'm like 95% sure this is pure Greg forum asspull because I literally cannot think of a single time he ever used it for that. It's completely redundant other than the fact that he wouldn't be recognizably Takanuva if he didn't have an Avohkii on his face. So, uh, yeah, brand recognition.
I'd go so far as to say that the dozens of surviving alternate Shadow Takanuva (also a very stupid and irrelevant sideplot thread that was never addressed) get more mileage out of their masks because they actually do get a second elemental power that way.
>>11889989
Speaking of ugly Avohkii, I got the 2008 titan Avohkii off BL recently and it's actually a lot less retarded looking than I remember thinking it was. Maybe just a shit picture/angle in the catalogue. Or maybe it's easier to look at it objectively when it's not matched with his fat-old-guy-New-Balance-sneakers and general awful colour scheme.
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>>11889982
>>11890007
There's one advantage of double dipping I guess in how he won't run out of his elemental power (it happened to the Metru but lets be real that was more of a handwave over why they didnt use their innate powers in the film) but Toas don't like spamming nova blasts to begin with
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Forget the Mask of Light, what the fuck is the Kraahkan good for?
Makuta can already naturally have manipulation over shadows, fear, and anger and non-Makuta can't even wear the damn thing
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>>11890090
Needed a mask for the Makuta set
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>>11889455
>>11889479
>>11889482
I had the Dark Hunters book as a kid as a gift so I have a soft spot for them but even I figured out they were window dressing that don't actually matter to the lore and the more races you add to the Matoran Universe the more questions you raise over what they even contribute to the immune system analogy
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>>11890090
I can buy that one as a purely symbolic thing, the leader of the brotherhood declaring he doesn't need a meaningful bonus power from some trinket.
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>>11890202
Yeah, what they really need is a continent sized robot body that can fire gravity beams to blow up planets duh
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Its over for bonkle isnt it? Cryoshell is still around somehow. Would love a new 00s themed daughtry song since crashed was just epic
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>>11890208
Everybody should have one.

>>11890232
As Above So Below goes fucking hard tbqh
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>>11890232
>Cryoshell is still around somehow
Are they?
They collabed with Essenger but their website is down
Last I heard they were working on an album
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>>11890202
Teridax was given the Kraahkan before he took over though
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guys, I found out that there are some G1 moc sets on aliexpress, obviously those are knock offs and so, but they look curious, there is kopaka, krekka, lhikan, teridax and a few others, it seems that you , might build the original model since they have a lot of pieces, anyone has experience with those?
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>>11889482
Would Krekka and Nidhiki have been better off as I dunno, Makuta cultists?
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>>11891034
No, sold custom mocs and G1 sets are basically just low quality parts that are painted over. They steal models from rebrickable or elsewhere, print out the parts, then paint them.

The only "good" bootlegs from aliexpress were G2 and Hero Factory stuff, but I don't even know if they make those still. There's also kennie who sells injection molded G1 masks.
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>>11891272
painfully dissapointing :/
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50€ how'd I do?
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>>11891809
goddam!
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>>11892707
Was able to put this guy together. He's only missing the large dome "exhaust" on the back.
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>>11891272
Can confirm old bootlego bonkle/hero factory/constraction/chima are meh - pretty good.
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I have 150+ pictures of different rahkshi girls...
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hello everyone this is my chud bonk son his name is Hawkua and he is so precious to me please love him as i love him
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>>11893682
>broken connector
>love him
So that was a fucking lie.
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>>11893675
Keep them to yourself.
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>>11888841
I love/hate it when discontinued parts become useful again. This and the A-framed plate are very useful.
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he was born broken, but loving him in despite of that is true love
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>>11893803
This A-Frame?
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>>11893876
I assoomed he meant picrel lated.
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>>11878877
Any good bootleg sets for someone who just wants to play around with the pieces? I'm not paying these parasitic ebay prices
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>>11893971
Oh that one, wonder if gobricks makes em
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Who is the best Bionicle and why is it Toa Iruini?
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>>11894007
You'll probably have more trouble finding good bootlegs than actually buying on ebay...
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>>11894032
I like him more after I found out he was supposed to be Nidhiki
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>>11894032
as a toy? either him or the bohrok
metru build was the peak of the toa builds though
>but muh shoulders
the pros completely outweigh the cons of that
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>>11894446
>but muh shoulders
It's also LEGO, so there's no end to the potential solutions to that problem. On that note, see picrel.
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>>11894446
If you can't get around the Metru shoulder "problem" 22 years later then you shouldn't be touching Bionicle imo
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>>11894032
Wrong. Its the rahkshi and toa nuva.
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>>11894766
>>11894446
On the other hand, if picrel is your way around the problem, then you shouldn't be allowed to *live*.
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>>11888640
Pogs
I just realized Roborider wheels were inspired by pogs of all things
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>>11894815
>literal inika build
>tyre faggotry
Rahkshit troons are just the most uncreative people possible, it's almost amazing.
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>>11895043
Anyone who uses red axels with zero regard for color coordination deserves castration.
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>>11895226
Well, yeah, actually, that too.
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/biog/ post some good mocs please.
>easymode: no tire slop
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>>11895253
Are tire rims ok? I just like collecting the insides of tires since they may eventually make good detail
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>>11895253
Idk about "good", I try not to rate anything I actually make that high. But I at least love these fuckers on a conceptual level. Had a whole set of lore for them and everything.
>>11895255
Well, yes, obviously, since you have to actually have the bare minimum creativity to attach them legally instead of stretching them over a bare CCBS bone because that's what you've seen all the other reddit trannies do.
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>>11895253
I like this dude.
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>>11894446
>metru build was the peak of the toa builds though
Nah. They look fucked when viewed from the front.
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>>11895956
I just want to know what the fuck they were thinking with that grip design.
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>>11895334
I like these. More pictures of the guy on the right
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>>11896036
Why not, a good throwback never hurt anyone.
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>>11896060
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>>11896061
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>>11896062
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>>11896063
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>>11896064
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>>11896065
I do apologize for the photo quality, these were all on the old phone.
Also, here's his high school yearbook photo.
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I'll dump some old ones I saved from here.
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>>11896589
>rotated
Fuck off.

Anyway, this was from a neat little series that got posted some years ago. Custom masks, and I think in the style of the original Voodoo Heads.
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>>11896594
Peak
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>>11896589
I require more pictures. Preferbly not rotated.
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>>11896993
I've got quite a few more of that guy's MOCs, but I'm assuming they'll all be rotated.
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When/how did it become socially acceptable among autistics to want to fuck this?
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Nokama's Unorthodox C-Section
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>>11897216
Behold, a live birth!
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>>11897216
>>11897218
I..uh..what? Maybe post more...?
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>>11897216
>>11897218
What happened to Nokama?
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>>11897247
Why, of course! Happy to comply xD
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>>11897247
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The fuck is this general anymore
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>>11897216
>>11897218
did you really destroy that piece for this
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>>11897297
I assure, no photoshop or optical tricks was used to create the moc :D everything you see is as it appears
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>>11897306
Tell me his grey weiner actually has a docking port on Nokama. Actually, prove it.
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>>11897306
I do not approve of part gore, but I commend you for making an at least slightly creative coomer moc.
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>order extra bohrok eyes from bricklink
>got the ones on the right

Why did lego think changing this was a good idea
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>>11895956
Man I wish I had Matau or Vakama.

>>11896061
This guy looks neat.
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>>11897960
The worst ones are neon orange bohrok eyes, you have no way of knowing whether you'll get the old neon orange or the new one that's less vibrant
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>>11898213
>nEoN
Cut the shit with the historical revisionism. Bionicle G1 never even used zoomer transorange, for fuck's sake.
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>>11898227
I mean it IS neon, revisionism or not the old transparent orange is extremely vibrant even among other transparent colors
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what would be the max amount you would pay for each
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>>11898266
20-30€ for a bulk lot with either in it, that's how I got all the misprints I own
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>>11898267
unfortunately, bulk lots outside of europe never have these
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>>11898227
>Bionicle G1 never even used zoomer transorange, for fuck's sake.
Did G2? I don't remember any new trans orange there either
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Post your moc/collection shelves.
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>>11896016
Even as a kid I thought that was fucked
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>>11888965
If G1 came back (it won't) and it had its "own version" of Ekimu, what would he be like?
inb4 Ekimu is G2 Mata Nui
I meant how like Transformers would have post-G1 characters be worked back into G1
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>>11899803
Didn't that already happen? Arthaka's contest design had Ekimu elements
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Brickcraft is bootlegging alot of HF and Bionicle pieces these days. I wonder if they'ed have the balls to release their own bonkle-lite with the same components.
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>>11890090
>>11890095
>>11890202
I just remembered the Phantoka Makuta literally had masks for powers they already naturally had like hunger and silence
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>>11899867
Haven't a lot of the patents expired?
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>>11900517
So it seems. Everything upto 2006 judging off all I've seen. They're bootlegging HF joints too though. Here's hoping they commit to a full on constraction theme already.
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>>11900519
Well shit
What's stopping some third party that doesn't have to worry about mass retail and demand from seizing the short tail, blue ocean market?
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>>11900666
The old dark gray socket pieces on Tehutti make me chortle because they're rare as shit now while dark blay sockets are borderline junk parts.
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currently working on a new donut steel villain with the idea to give him an 18 shot grenade launcher as a play feature.
>inb4 inika torso
fuck ya mudda
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>>11900707
i need some of those 120 degree technic connector pieces to complete the gun
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God, I miss the smell of freshly opened container, it's like crack. On a side note, are there any biobonks you can make just by ordering their parts?
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>>11900749
Any Toa Mata, Nuva, or Bohrok can be made this way since all of their parts are very common and cheap.
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>>11900765
Wow that's so cool. By the time I got my first set which was Barraki Pridak, most of the Mistika/Phantoka was already selling out, so I never had a real chance to get the first ones.
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>>11900541
Fear of legal retaliation? I have no clue, but it's frustrating.
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>>11900707
The face and torso design is genius. I'd never think to pair a rahkski leg with the inika body like that, let alone use the kiina armor bit on those HF heads like that
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>>11900789
I can't quite put words on how I feel about ccbs faggy waggy so have this image instead
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>>11900707
Y'know, at this point, I don't really mind if someone uses Inika pieces. After all, you're only using the piece for its simplest intended purpose, no worse than a MOC using the 2001 Toa design. The blame ultimately lies with Lego for settling on such a shit design to start with, not the people who had those sets as kids.
Also, the kind of reddit/instagram troons that greeble together a bunch of smaller pieces just to replicate the Inika skeleton anyway because they're too retarded to think of their own articulation scheme deserve my contempt far more.
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>>11900707
>>11900841
Oh, yeah, forgot the actual commentary, sorry:
It's nice to see Bugeyes Yellowface make his triumphant return.
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>>11900673
star trek fans are WHAT
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>>11901136
>average coomrahkshit enjoyer
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>>11900670
>that gali description
kek
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>>11901136
Moc is fire. Person a lil wierd but I guess weird and bionicle go hand in hand.
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>>11901461
>fire
As in "dumpster".
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>>11901478
As in better than most of the shit posted on here. Just because the builder is a troon doesn't mean the build aint cool.
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>>11901488
Of course not, the fact that it's generic greebleslop on a glorified inika skeleton manages to achieve that effect quite nicely.
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>>11901490
Define inika build.
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>>11901502
I said skeleton, not build.
Anyway, ball-to-socket shoulders and hips with the socket parallel to the upper arm/thigh, single-axis knees and elbows, stinks of banality. Y'know, same thing Lego's been stuck on for the last 20 years.
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>>11901504
None of that sounds negative or bad and extremely nit picky. I can get behind it being bad/lazy if you use prefab limbs or the prefab body but "ball to socket shoulders" and "single axis knees and elbows" being negative things sounds extremely purist in my opinion.
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>>11901506
That's because you're thinking of appearance rather than function. A typical inigga-type shoulder-elbow combination means the figure can't even cross an arm over its chest. I'm in fact far more tolerant of, as you say, prefab designs, but when someone makes an abortion like that just to replicate the same shit range of motion it's no better than a fucking statue, no matter how prettily decorated.
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>>11901511
Has any set ever had the range of motion you mention without having to sacrifice it elsewhere?
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>>11901511
The shoulders in that MOC do look like they have extra articulation though (it's a double joint from the looks of it). The torso also at least has a forward-backward DoF. I can't see shit about the hips, but the range of motion on the standard hips isn't as awful as the Inika shoulders, and I can accept that the balance of range of motion to stability makes things restrictive on a big MOC, but still, I can't see shit anyway. Standard single-joint knees and elbows are also in the "close enough" range on Bionicles, and aren't in themselves the limiting factor to get human-like articulation (normally it's armour and such getting in the way).

I don't like the style of the MOC, but you clearly didn't look very closely to say it's a "glorified inika skeleton."
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>>11901490
>greebleslop
>inika skeleton
Is it just one autist that keeps making these posts?
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>>11901504
>>11901506
>>11900841
>>11901511
>>11901570
yall given me a lot to think about regardless
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>>11901574
Yes, specifically this one >>11900841
Notice how most of his mocs have the slizer arms with their ball joints plugging into the mocs' torsos? He calls anything with the ball joint plugging into the arm an Inika build. The moc in question even has double jointed shoulders for more articulation, but no it's just an Inika build.
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>>11901598
I don't think that's who; I've never seen him bitch about double-jointed knees or elbows, nor ever use them (they're pretty rare in normal Bionicle MOCs, since like I said before elbows and knees aren't usually all that limited in their standard config, so it's a weird point to make). I'm also an articulation autist and when I post it's normally about that. I dunno why you're so mad anyway.

>>11901577
Your guy looks cool though, and you've gotta make sacrifices for smaller builds since you can only do so much while being compact. Normal hips I think are fine, and even torso articulation can be kind of pointless since it's an easy way to make a build wobbly and very hard to keep compact.
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>>11899867
I wonder how accurate the pieces are. Are they sourcing the part models from stud.io, or are they getting them elsewhere. Stud.io part models are not super accurate.
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>>11899867
I really wish some company would start bootlegging pieces we'd really need in new colors, like Tohunga pieces
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>>11901635
To actually do wide-scale manufacturing costs a lot of money, so most people don't try and just resort to resin casting or 3D printing.

I actually reached out to kennie on aliexpress before and he told me just manufacturing the molds by themselves are expensive, like thousands of dollars. He had to buy the 3d models for the masks for like $60 each as well. pic related.

There's no guarantee that what you make will sell enough to profit or cover the manufacturing cost, so most don't try. Things like Tohunga pieces are niche and not really useable outside of making matoran, so it's more cost effective to bootleg generic lego piece molds as you can make more things out of them.
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>>11901631
Brickcraft has an option on their site to bulk order pieces by color and quantity. Part of me suspects they have ties with chink bootleggers, or maybe are partially owned by them. It's all guessing on my part but it'd be stranger if neither was the case. For all I know they might still be using the old lego molds outright.
>>11901635
It'd be nice. Even mask selections are extremely limited. I've made this point more than a few times on here before but I just cant wrap my head around lego abandoning a whole building system. Talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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>>11901136
This isn't even real greeb lmao.
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>>11901789
>but I just cant wrap my head around lego abandoning a whole building system
Znap?
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>>11901789
The problem is that aside from the general principle of the large ball socket, it's ultimately not one system but a multitude of systems that overlapped at different points in time. There's literally a bigger gulf in design between 2001 pieces and 2009 pieces than there is between 2009 pieces and 2011 HF pieces. They can't keep all those conflicting and in their minds mutually redundant elements so it's easier to axe them all.
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>>11901918
Znap came to mind but atleast in its case it was a total failure. K'nex simply dominated the market then, but now, neither exist. Bionicle on the other hand trucked along for years, saw implementation in system, flourished alongside other constraction themes like knights kingdom and dinosaurs, and then evolved into ccbs. You would think that would merit more consideration. I guess not.
>>11901927
It's tiring.
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>>11901789
Constraction pieces were less durable for Lego's usual standards and they probably didn't like having to recycle old molds to recontextualize them for system sets
I remember an Anon from /v/ who told an anecdote that they loved Bionicle as a kid but their aunt at Lego didn't like working on sets or their pieces or whatever
The frustrating thing with G2 is that you can tell the people making the sets were realizing what could be done with CCBS and doing creative stuff with it far from when it first began but then it and the Star Wars line bombed and now it's back at square one with homogenized brick built action figures
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>>11901973
>and the Star Wars line bombed
I dunno what the fuck they were thinking not primarily doing droids. The fully armored various troopers were fine-ish but K2-S0 was really good.
The various CIS droids are nearly ideal for constraction with how skeletal they all are (still mad we never got the super battle droid).
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>>11901574
>>11901598
This really so?
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>>11902025
The really gay part is that they later did brickbuilt constraction droids. Although those were more dust collector display slop.
>>11901973
Why have many constraction pieces when you can just use 2-4?
...I mean, "because it looks and plays like shit", obviously, but that answer apparently didn't occur to them.
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>make something people would actually want for once
>cancel the line before it comes out
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>>11902097
Lego really screwed themselves out of guaranteed easy cash not releasing the right one at least. "Army builder" clonigger paypiggies would have spent thousands each to line a hundred of those up in monopose. And the vehicle tax would have just added pure profit. Sadly, there's no grey baseplate big enough...
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You think Ninjago could have saved CCBS with "properly proportioned and articulated" depictions of the characters?
I know Chima had constraction figures but Chima wasn't as popular anyways
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>>11902173
CCBS is flawed by design so no, at most it would have delayed the inevitable
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>>11902173
I consider the total death of constraction an acceptable price to pay for there to have been less nigfago than there could have been.



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