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Off to a great start.
here's optimus prime at the first thanksgivingTRANSFORM AND ROLL OUT PILGRIMS
>>11938302hmmm has any beastformer ever turned into an edible bird?I mean, everything's edible if you try, but.. I'm trying to think of the closest we ever got to a toikey. Zoids has a peacock at least, that has some of the same profile.
>>11938309There was that comic where those aliens wanted to eat Sky Lynx
>>11938309There's a penguin Transformers. People from Antarctica probably eat penguins.
>>11938309There's a Botbot that turns into a roast turkey.
>>11938217That's technically pre-Beast Wars Megs, not TM3 Megs.
>>11938297>says it's "fuck frameslop" edition>posts a picture of a frame combiner anywayWhich is it, schizokun?
>>11938297No. Hasbro used have artists on staff. And incompetent photographers who were never given instructions along with the ad model of most transformers.>>11938283Drift isn't even a weeb from outer space anymore, he's just the designated Samurai Robot of the franchise, which is somehow less fun.
>>11938309Beast Wars arguably had edible coatings on noted birds Airrazor, Dinobot and Megatron.
>>11938321is it?
Name me your favorite Fast Action Battlers from ROTF or 07/
>>11938331that's not really much of a contest. only optimus doesn't look like a happy meal toy
>>11938331I just always feel really bad for Jolt. He doesn't even have a real name he's just the name of his alt mode.
>>11938331Only good Fast Action Battler (yeah, I know it's not from ROTF
>>11938334I said 07 or movie, fair enough. I wish used ones weren't constantly missing the antenna.
Outside of the intentionally bad parts, this is actually a kind of interesting deco. Like if you drop the flesh tone and just do black/purple/orange you've got a Halloweeny repaint that is fairly distinct from Nemesis Prime.
>>11938339nah keep the flesh tones, I have a friend I would totally buy this for
>>11938339i really hate when they try to do flesh paintdaubs, but the shades of orange really work here, with the black and even the burgundy. all you have to change is the head and the pants, really
>>11938321The original idea when it was first planned was for it to be a new TM3 body for Megatron. Funpub just dug it out of 3H's tomb and stole it since it was a cooler than any of their repaints but gave it a way dumber backstory.
>>11938325What frame? You aight, anon?
>>11938346The one you connected all the Combaticons too. It's Onslaught's trailer.
>>11938325Is it really frameslop if it's just the shins then?Like yea they could do another part for Swindle/Brawl to let them be the leg's themselves
>>11938348And the torso.
>>11938351"And the torso"The Torso is %90 OnslaughtThe Waist, thigh and shins are parts
>>11938352You're changing the definition of "frameslop" almost as much as you change the definition of "tooner"
>>11938365You may actually be schizoNow you're bringing up your other boogeyman and seething
>>11938346The 3d printed parts look so bad
I'm finally hooked up one and I can sell the extra for gorillions at tfcon.
Anyone know the shade of blue Devastation Bee uses? Mine arrived with some paint chips and I really want to fix that before I top coat the blue paint and the face.
>>11938330>is it?The comic that came with it depicts it as BW Megatron's original body from the end of the Cybertronian Civil War, when he was technically a Decepticon; after he gets arrested for ignoring the order to surrender, he gets sent to a maximum security prison and forcibly downgraded to the smaller ICBM-carrier body he has in The Theft Of The Golden Disc, which is the body he still has until he scans the T-Rex bones at the start of Beast Wars.
>>11938378And yet it somehow looks better than frameslop
I miss them
>>11938197Alternators was sick
>>11938344Didnt scalpers immediately buy them all up.
>>11938333Jolt is a Chevy Volt.
>>11938405Hey anon. Looks like you missed the "?" key on your keyboard when typing your question! Please be careful next time.
>>11938412Or else what!
>>11938395huh..
>>11938412ehhh that's becoming a thing. a question where you don't lilt your voice at the end, to indicate disinterest and a dull feeling
Should I get an Alternators figure, or Binaltech?
>>11938454Get smokescreen, it’s the best one
I kind of want Guzzle and Cybershark, but I really can't justify any non-essential characters at the current prices. The Voyager price increase still stings the worst, especially with places like Amazon charging 46 bucks for some of them. Might as well be paying for a Leader at that point.
>>11938401The frameslop... that you're using anyway.
>check transformers newsHoly shitGuzzle going to 3 different heads? We are getting both head master gimmick and combiner ability in one figure? Or it is going to be face changes thing?
>>11938325>expecting consistency in logic from the mentally illFirst day on /tfg/ anon? Rookie mistake.
>>11938476Yeah, I might get Alpha Bravo on sale someday, but that's about it for this wave from me. The coming year is looking pretty lean for TFs I actually really want at these prices...which for me isn't a bad thing honestly.
>>11938502Don't forget his extendo arm gimmick!
>>11938521can he leg?
>>11938524Legs are just for show.
>>11938524With these glamour shots, not only could he leg, he could probably also Arm and Torso.
>>11938525>>11938533so no combini with bruticoos?
>>11938192techincally that is Wizkids using the license. not Wotc
>>11938521>Hasbro literally solved how to mass shifting And you people still complaining? WTF?
>>11938502>>11938521I am very excited for these officially advertised features! I can't wait to use the alternate heads! it's a good thing we can trust hasbro to include everything pictured because otherwise they'd be open to a false advertising lawsuit
>>11938454Alternity Megatron is pretty damn great
Why are we still getting fake chest grills on main-line G1 Optimus Prime figures?If Hasbro gave us a proper Commander Class G1 Season 1 Optimus Prime using the actual truck grill for the chest, it would solve so many issues like simpler, far nicer transformation with no over-engineered faux-chest flipping mechanics.It would be infinitely more fun to fiddle with at a desk for adults, while staying intuitive and durable for younger fans which are the target audience after all. And you could recreate the Movie transformation in stop motion as is with no stupid tricks.Faux-grills take up space and it is those parts that create a backpack on Optimus Prime figures. Eliminating them means no unnecessary backpack or torso bulk, therefore a sleeker robot mode.Lower overall part counts for the chest mechanism means better budget allocation where saved budget could go directly into better paint apps, hidden pin joints, or accessories (like trailer features, blast effects, or a proper Matrix chamber etc.).
>>11938562 (PART 2)Every time this comes up, people claim a real grill gives Optimus a "dad/bear belly" or makes his torso look too long.Even if length were an issue, designers could easily split the lower grill section into a small hinge that folds away during transformation.It is infuriating that the only official mainline Optimus with a real grill is the Deluxe class Devastation Optimus Prime—which is not only too small for CHUG scale, but suffers from a budget-constrained, clunky transformation.(And I'm excluding Missing Link here because that's an homage to the original 1984 G1 toy engineering, not a modern screen-accurate design).What frustrates me even more is third-party companies. Legends-scale figures like the Hot Soldiers HS-02 Prop Sky Pillar nailed everything I’ve ever wanted in an Optimus Prime—real grill, clean transformation, beautiful silhouette—and then 3P companies just stop there! Why won't anyone upscale these designs to standard Studio Series / CHUG scale?
A KO of ss86 soundwave is coming. Apparently they're doing him as Soundblaster first, and Soundblaster will come with Overkill, Slugfest, and Autoscout.
Guess Takara won't be doing Super Megatron for their LG line, but they did tease something with Dark Amber, something about him needing to see Vector Sigma for his true power.
>>11938403Realistic car modes are the best
>>11938562Earthrise and SS86 are already pretty easy to transform, and SS86 would only be more complicated if they made you pull out extra parts just for the grill instead of just swiveling the whole back around
>>11938596>SS86 would only be more complicated if they made you pull out extra parts just for the grill instead of just swiveling the whole back around.No, if they would do what Hot Soldiers HS-02 Prop Sky Pillar did with a couple of tweaks,like the grill should be a little bit wider and the bumper should take a lower part of the grill with it so Optimus won't look too tall in the waist and that would result in fewer parts and a less complicated transformation than what we currently have with SS86.Hot Soldiers HS-02 Prop Sky Pillar is already easy, smooth and simple on it's own so with commander size and budget it would only got better.
>>11938596>SS86 would only be more complicated if they made you pull out extra parts just for the grillHot Soldiers HS-02 Prop Sky Pillar, OF DX9 Dutch, X2 Toys Giga Raiden, Jinbao DF-04 Optimum Warrior.All of them are legends scale with simple transformations that would be perfect for an upscale to the Commander class.
>>11938562God bless
>>11938466>>11938556Which of the lines would you say is preferable, though?
>>11938540not the same entity?>>11938562you're bringing a bag of smart to the stupid factory, anon. That's contraband.
>>11938659Honestly Alternity/Bineltech has some really good molds that are a lot better than the US Alternators
>>11938562I always wanted a less janky version of this guy. With legs that collapse and sculpting that actually fit together in alt mode. Maybe put the wheel well section on a rotating joint so the wheels end up hidden inside the torso instead of the outside.
>>11938297OP, first, that looks fucking awful.Second, please never make the thread again and also kill yourself if you can.
>>>/co/156267579So, how much do you think this is this thing going to cost? I'm thinking $1,100 minimum. >>11938339Imagine Beast Machine Blackarachnia with this paint.
>>11938692>not the same entity?no, completly different one.
I'd kill for alternators styled car brothers.
>>11938736that's.. weird.I'm still going to think they're the same entity.
>>11938722>Maybe put the wheel well section on a rotating joint so the wheels end up hidden inside the torso instead of the outside.Wheels should go under the chest plate just like in masterpiece where this created the sides of Optimus Prime lower torso.
>>11938738>alternatorsThey look good, but fuck are they hard to work with. I remember getting Ravage back in the day and spent an hour trying to transform him. I was never able to get him back into vehicle mode.
>>11938735Why that high? Even if they make Megatron a Commander class, I don't think inflation will make things 10x in the span of 2 or so years if they started working on it now.
I hear TFs are AI now. When we getting a Hothouse repaint of the new Power Glide?
>>11938748Energon Universe toys seem to already be over priced. Combine that with the need for a whole new Devastator designed specifically to hold the gun and it will start to add up.
>>11938767where would planeformers be without underslung wing pylons?
>>11938788>where would planeformers be without having the entire robot folded up into a brick and hanging off the bottom of the plane
>>11938773Devastator is sub-250 for the retail version even at current prices for classes. What exactly do you think a retooled version needs to hold Megatron, assuming that Megatron wasn't designed with Devy's existing hands in mind?
>>11938767Hothouse, Bad Boy, Viper, Tailwind.....
>>11938788All seekers all the time, baby!
>>11938794It's funny. Carformers have to pass from 5 sides, but planes usually only bother with 1.
>>11938297OP, first, that looks fucking beautiful.Second, please make every future thread again and also take care of yourself if you can.
>>11938849>replying to your own OP
>>11938773>the need for a whole new Devastator designed specifically to hold the gunWhat need?
Why bother to use AI on sample images (not even official press release) when you can call someone at the factory floor have them to take a shitty photo?
Is this asshole worth getting or not? I'm tempted but I already have the Earthrise version.
>>11938874I like mine a lot. There's something about the blue plastic...it has this glossy sheen to it and it just feels great to handle. He is wide, but I don't mind. Cab portion of the alt mode feels a little rickety but it's passable.
>>11938874No because I'm morally opposed to a Magnus without a white Convoy mode
>>11938884Funny how it drifted from just White Optimus called Ultra Magnus to only the bigger guy while omitting the white Optimus over time.
>>11938297Most artists aren't worth the prices they charge.
>>11938874As an armored up Prime enjoyer, I still like him. Even pre-ordered the Diaclone colors version.
>>11938889What the fuck does that have to do with anything? The photographs are done by guys on Hasbro's payroll already.
>>11938860>assuming everyone who disagrees with you is OP
>>11938874Skip him and buy the superior deco
>>11938874Eh, I was never a fan, too tall, too wide, terrible shoulders and a not great headsculpt. I ended up modding my kingdom magnus with the leg panels form a junker siege magnus to give it the tighter looking trailer connection.
>>11938888Because the little white Optimus is mostly a toy only thing. Dreamwave and IDW made it an armor but in IDW it wasn't even an armor for a white Prime it was an armor for an entirely different guy. Since Magnus was never a white Optimus in the cartoon he shouldn't have that feature in a toy that's based on his cartoon design.
>>11938831that's a good point. and a good way of looking at it.. we're absolutely at a place where hasbrony is gonna start reducing how many sides things look good from. robot mode backs are already fucked.
>>11938849he didn't use the bins though
>>11938931If I had free reign, I'd make a show where Optimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, and Rodimus Prime have different interchangeable trailers and in the show they have them swap them around each other freely. Also Jetfire and Elita-1 can attach as backpack wings to them. Probably would annoy parents.
>>11938865someone at the factory floor requires payment, and has zero skillat least this way the bad results line up with the lack of effort.
>>11938919exactly. when there's two versions of a character that I like, I try to get them in different colors.
>>11938931I wish more shows had "a guy's super mode is just his normal mode" stuff. Closest I can think to that is in Digimon, how Tailmon was a higher level than all the others of its size. The very rare occasions you saw the next step down, it's like "oh yeah, she does have that form"some show should have a Magnus whose inner guy almost never comes out
>>11938946It makes it weird in like 90% of things later. Starting as soon as 02 where they have Tailmon without the Holy Ring as a child-level equivalent.
>>11938950it was even before that! though I forgot about the ring. Man it has been a while. That.. that franchise was a RIDE.
>>11938952>That.. that franchise was a RIDE.And still is. The Time Stranger videogame has you playing as a schizophrenic, time-travelling goat-boy, among other weirdness.
>>11938982ha. glad they're not just resting on their laurels like pokemon. Keep it weird!
>>11938942I'd make Hot Rod, Hot Shot, and Bumblebee like Huey, Dewey, and LouisJust gang of copy paste characters that are always together and completely interchangeable
>>11938919Red dude is going to chip for sure
>>11938743I imagine a kid with Slopmada toys getting an Alternators figure by accident would be something like that, yeah.>Daddy, what's wrong with my toy?>That's an elbow joint, son>*sniff* it scares me...
>>11939000Will Uncle Optimus be a dick to them?
>>11938942That would be really cool. Especially if armor pieces could mix and match and there was an all-in combination for each one. I want more of those super robot elements in the franchise again. I'd replace Elita-1 with Wingsaber though.
>>11938767he looks like a blokees.
>>11938874I like mine quite a bit. Wish he was shorter and less wide but he's a solid toy
>>11939007it SHOULD scare youonce that thing transforms once it'll never quite sit right again, everything is too fiddly
>>11939003Hes not red plastic?
>>11939003Why can't Ultra Magnus come with Power Buggy?
>>11939039I dunno ask takara that
>>11938297Weird Megazord.
>>11938874>Is this asshole worth getting or not?i never understood what's the deal with Magnus...in The Movie he didnt do anything. he's so big and strong looking yet i cant remember a single thing he "did"
>>11938874He's alright, but I highly recommend getting the chinese shoulder upgrade. It requires removing and replacing two pins, and actually improves the alt mode slightly too.
>>11938874Fantastic toy, ace presence, great transformation. One of the best Magnus toys out there
>>11939078huh, this also makes it look like it makes him significantly taller somehow.. his legs look longer, but his head looks smaller, and his arms look the same.
Remake one day
>>11939093Combiner Wars almost not really counts in that the Autobots chosen as Optimus Maximus were picked for that color-pallet. Mirage, Sunstreaker, Prowl and Ironhide
>>11939093>Red window framesweird
>>11939093I want it to have both the limbs and the ability to become shirt and pants like the deluxe.
So with 4 completed combiners teams over the past few years, of them which is your weakest link? Superion gets my vote mainly for the legs with how much the bots stick out from the back and the feet overall just stink.
>>11939093I want to say HasLab would be the only way to do him justice, but after Omega Prime, I don't know (and I say that when my copy's still fine)
>>11939078Nothing suffers from him losing those parts?
>>11938564>Why won't anyone upscale these designs to standard Studio Series / CHUG scale?Because:1. Chug is shit2. OSKOs got killed by hasblow
>>11939077Failed as a leader. That's literally all he did.
>>11939039Because Ultra Magnus comes with Deerstalker
So what is the best Menasor/Stunticons to get?
>>11939138>DeerstalkerHoly shit, DEERSTALKER!
>>11938874YesThe Siege/ER/Kingdom mold is so hot ass
>>11939094That was 11 years ago and more of an homage than anything. Not quite the best way of getting a new Grand Convoy, not to mention the mold is fucking jank as hell even with the corrected hip joints. Grand Convoy needs a proper update, one that is much closer to his more rugged and muscular build in the anime.>>11939119I find Haslab to be impossible because Superlink/Energon is too unpopular for Haslab i.e Hasbro is only wiling to make something Haslab if it's either popular or has a cult following knowing it would be fully funded no matter what. And none of the current designers we have now have any personal interest in making a Haslab toy out of a Superlink/Energon Character.Personally I think a small Titan Class similar to Star Convoy would suffice. As insane as it sounds I think Titan Class is Optimus's best chance, a remake/update Grand Convoy is going to have to fix the core robot proportions by making it so Grand Convoy transforms from robot mode to torso mode. That coupled with good ratchet joints to support himself in Super Mode makes him a Leader Class on his own. Add in a trailer and that makes him a Commander Class, add in the drones and the budget is pushed to Titan Class zone. He's effectively a complete Combiner set.
>>11939136NTA, but I don't think it's fair to say he completely failed at a job that was never really his to begin with.
>>11939141My badFor whatever reason I thought >>11938919 was the ML from the thumbnail
>>11939138But he doesn't. I mean the Missing Link version does, but I want a CHUG Deerstalker
>>11939077It's because he sounds like he needs your help with unsolved mysteries.
>>11939077He does more in the cartoon and comics
I haven't read any of the Skybound Transformers, but I still think I want to get Shredhead because it turns into a sick wizard van and I think fun altmodes deserve to be rewarded. Like when I bought that Minicon multipack mostly because there was a Taxi named Overcharge in it.
>>11939078Is it weird that I actually prefer the wider shoulder proportions of the original? It gives him more character as "the big guy". The real problem, IMO, is that the exposed, layered hinges are just ugly as fuck. Might be one of those things I could overlook in hand, but I feel like I own enough Magni, lately.>>11939003Dunno how much of him is paint, but that mold has a pretty low-friction transformation so I doubt it would be a serious issue.