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Noelle and Kris!
I won't be back until tonight so if the thread gets spammed to death you'll have to bake in my stead. And maybe prepare a backup bake, since our guests have returned to full time posting.
>>83134637Doen't forget the magma!https://magma.com/d/fgUC3XyPHx
>>83134722i don't see that happening without someone incurring a ban (mods willing) but i can handle a bake if need be
MassiveFirmHeavingBouncingTiddoes
>>83134977>mRectifying this situation STAT.
>>83135242
Is he gone?
I (ME) am LOVING this! You can tell because I'm in this picture!
>>83135574
Eat peanut butter idiot
>>83135597they can't sing if they're peeb'd up....
>>83135581singing swears in his beautiful, beautiful voice.at least if that's what Noelle's Rhapsotea interaction implies she thinks.
>>83135660kris was just trying to sing in tongues the entire time, but nelly was the only one who halfway understood it
>>83135625Good. It means Kris can't sing swears. (What was the context behind these two images anyway?)
>>83135721Noelle doing that schlorpschlorp thing dogs do when trying to lick peanut butter off their snout
>>83135797>every Holiday uses a different vowel in their laugh>Rudy's used to be 'Fo-Ho-Ho' until he found out Noelle was scared of Santa
>>83135831>Noelle's sweet and kindly grandma (Rudy's side) who goes Fihihihhihi>January uses Fuhuhuhuhu because it sounds like the "fufufufu" laugh stereotypically used by weird and shady people in certain Japanese games, as well as creepy nerds>at any one time, ALL vowels are accounted for by one member of the extended family>the moment one passes, another must take up the mantle
pure evil
>>83136429wouldsaid kris
>>83136447>wouldRide into battle like a proud and lively steed? I agree. An AU where the Holidays go HALF DEER is an interesting one at any rate, given how underutilized quadrupedal Monsters are in Toby's games.
>>83136429*crunches up all your leafy greens*
>>83136584riding Dess's shoulders was a core formative memory for Kris
>Anon, there is nothing wrong with discussing Momdyne and what you would like to see in it, or possible theories about how things are there. That's how AUs grow and develop Oh, I was just joking that in another universe the dice would roll differently and I've be some frigid doe fanatic. It's not really a statement on preference but more how variables can change a person in a whole other life. I was tired when I wrote that and just wanted to bump the thread, so I probably wasn't very clear.
>>83137062>he'd wear spurs if they tried it again after the epilogue
>>83137539Kris feet...Erotic...
>>83136429do we think kris still would, uhh, y'know...
>>83137787soooo normal about them... smooth, unblemished perfection...
>>83137873if their bond/history remains unchanged, yes, obviously.
Kriselle but they want to kill each other
>>83137873They're the same does he's always known and depending on the scope of Kris' education, he might not even find it that weird if he's only been around Monsters that resemble animals they've merely read about. Worst case scenario, Stool babies.
>>83137942>I'm so violent and sick in the head I can't tell if I wanna kill my opps or fuck'em
>>83138149
the trials that must be endured to get to krismas...
>>83135574I want chapter 0 so bad
what if the unique leaves from dess's stuff are really just unique leaves and she was a massive nature nerd
>>83139020the potential reality where Dess is only about 5% cooler than the rest of the dorks, and they idolize her by pure contrast.
>>83138945Summer fucking sucks if you don't have AC. There were some years the fucking power went out and boy was it terrible. Winter is great, just bundle up with a bunch of blankets and you're good.
>>83138979>asriel has a snout but the deer don't uncanny
>>83139287what are cool kids in the eyes of younger ones, than much bigger dorks
>>83139383Teens Are Merely Big Children
>>83139414(And Adults Are Even Bigger Children)
Maternal instincts
>>83139509saved these earlier but forgor to post them skewer me roast me eat my eyeballs
>>83139603just did a lazy crop
>>83139287imagine if she has big nerd glasses and braces
>>83134637My reinterpretation of spamelle>LW form: An old christmas e-card you send to your loved ones on 90s dialup internet.
>>83139980cute doe who will give you 1000 computer viruses
>>83139980it's kind of funny that spamelle was created with the concept of a darkner and a lightner in mind and now have that with gerson, just under different circumstancesvery [99¢ FESTIVE SPECIL]
these are nice
>>83140836
>>83140836>>83140855Scrunkly DessOddly appealingI still prefer the ones I want to FFFFUCK
>>83140948Okay.
>>83140948my nigga
>>83140948Same
>>83137062
>>83140948Kris…
*makes my noelle doll hump my kris doll*
>>83141382Dess what the fuck
Doe?
>Does are a spook.
>>83137062>This was a common occurrence>Dess carrying Kris in a piggyback ride while he held on from her antlers.>It was just like always, but a unfortunate coincidence happened.>Dess began to shed her antlers that day and she didn't notice it.>So when Kris grabbed her antlers like always, instead of a firm handle for Kris, the antlers just... Popped right out.>Leaving Kris to fall backwards into the ground taking Dess with him.>It was kinda funny at the time seeing him so shocked on the ground while still grabbing to deer life unto those antlers, but then Kris started crying like, for real.>It took a whole week of December apologizing for hurting him, reassuring him that he didn't break her antlers and many many months until he was confident in riding the elder doe again.>But funnily enough, he looks back on that day with fondness.
>>83141067this but just a bit fatter
>>83141477pls don't copy my greentexts just post the screencapthanks
>>83141544Couldn’t find it.
>>83141544Sure you wrote that?
>>83141594pretty sure
>>83141711Nice.
>>83140948Makes me wonder, just how much sex did they have?
>>83141951Honestly, with what little we have to go off of at the moment, canonically, they probably only just started "Experimenting" with each other prior to Dess's disappearance, like kissing or groping each other, if even that.You know, that suddenly makes me wonder if the line "The vast garden is charred in an inferno of jealousy" isn't referring to Asgore, but instead Asriel bringing home a girlfriend from university and The Knight(If the Knight is Dess in this case), see's this and just goes fucking nuts.
>>83141951To answer your question,Asgore ran over Dess to avoid the scandal over quintuplets
>Noelle Holiday General
>>83141951Goose egg
>>83141951>>83142506>>83142540>>83142740>>>/vg/utg/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAW3xEnDTqk
>>83142990>"Um, excheese me?">Noelle adapting this as a one of her many corny doe-isms>never fails to claim a piece of Kris' lifespan when he's within earshot
>>83143289>Dess stares at her, without speaking for a solid minute>Noelle, trying to make a joke, suddenly gets it>"Well, you don't have to go all Silent Kni-ohhhh."
>>83143379>Noelle helping her sister acclimate to her knew life with silly descriptive adjectives to describe whatever she's doing at any given point>"Fahaha, I guess she's counting sheep! Talk about a Snoring Knight!">said with that cheeky finger pointing talk sprite
what a whore
>>83143576>"Noelle, I get it, the only way you could be more obvious about this is if your panties literally had 'finger me' written on them>(...maybe I should change those, then.)
>>83143553I miss Estranged Dess>>83143576He played her like a piano...
>>83142770>"Perhaps we aren't so different, you and I"
>>83143576I think Kris can play a big set of ivories than that.
would kris and noelle make good parents?
>>83141951None. They were too busy having sex with Humans.
>>83144232Maaan, what I'd give for Deadcat to revisit this family again. Putting their foot down about Kris being a man to Twitter losers was great. I'm sure Chapter 5 will turn it back around, because there's something great about their kids "just" being guycember and girle kris but with a few retained similarities is great.
>>83144517do those 'twitter losers' even have a response for this? this is Lancer referring to Kris, Ralsei and Susie.'canonically non-binary' my ass, this is chapter 1 dialogue that has never been changed, meaning, literally, 'Kris is a boy or a girl', not neither, Kris is a blank slate to be perceived however you want, trying to enforce neutrality upon depictions is insanity, everyone has an interpretation, none of them are incorrect.
>>83144591that's just toby casually suggesting you can consider kris a boy or a girl due to the plurals or neither if you choose to view lancer's interpretation as faulty because he's a dumb kid who likes rocket bikes and splat sounds, and considering it was all the way back in chapter one, suffice to say few took the hint
>>83144591
>>83144671(personally I believe this suggests it 'belongs' to Asriel, but I'm willing to use it to rage-bait)
>>83144591kris is an "or">but what about cookie and wife?kris is a cookie>but what about BOISENGIRLSkris is an ENkris is a encookieor, clearly
>>83144232>noelleseems to have some semblance of a maternal instinct and normalcy. she'd be fine, barring PTSD from whatever happens in the events of the prophesy. >kriscomplete wildcard
>>83144671That's probably Dess' half of the gift exchange with Asriel, with him giving her a the religious Ska CD. Both are unopened and both impart a small aspect of something they'd like to see more of in the other. Asriel wishing for Dess to open up to group song, church singing and impress Toriel and Dess' boyish suggestion that Asriel should try loosening up with sillier ideas like wearing gag body spray as an athlete and probably something that opens the door to coy flirtatiousness because he smells like food. You could probably find a better reading of the latter item but yeah.
>>83144591>>83144654Deltarune as a whole is an important object lesson in why "death of the author" is troon media-colonialist bullshit. Toby's insistence on maintaining mostly radio silence to keep his air of mystique has inadvertently allowed those 'Twitter losers' to nest comfortably inside the zeitgeist of his work.Occam's razor would indicate that the game's refusal to refer to Kris by specific pronouns is intended to invite the audience to interpret the character's gender as whatever makes sense to them, in accorance with most generic self inserts, which itself has implications with the themes of the player having a diagetic presence in the form of the SOUL. However, as they are incredibly desperate for any form of legitimacy, those retarded fags are determined to take this artistic statement literally so they can get melty at normal people on the internet. I hate them so muchAnd I love this doe and I want to put Kris' penis inside of her
Dess' iconic boob doors
Why is Kris such a asshole?
>>83144850this retard doesn't deserve the doe if he never actually did this
>>83144850feels contradictory with the gift giving stuff in chapter 2maybe the kid can't speak no good around noelle
>>83144850Feelings, it doesn't really line up with Kris' defined mannerisms (they are VERY against insulting people in general) and because they're autistic. Kris also may have taken Noelle's presence for granted in some respects. Kids tend to do that, but it's not malicious at all.
Kris is autistic
>>83144833You're 100% right but nothing will change. The vast majority of the Undertale and Deltarune fanbase are literal children who have never played either game.>>83144850His love language is being a goblin.
>>83144960genuinely how would she react to him doing that out of the bluei see a very prey-animal reaction in that pic
>>83144833I think it's a waste of energy to disdain people with wrong interpretations when you know you have good company with those who share your views, honestly. At a certain point you just gotta roll your eyes and try not to let particularly egregious kernels of arrogant stupidity cloud your zen.
>>83144833you know what the most annoying part about it all is? these motherfuckers will NEVER police someone calling Kris female, they're showing their bias, and only give a shit when it potentially disrupts their idea of Noelle 'cleanly' being a Lesbian when Toby Fox is avoiding those kinds of labels, too.here's the truth, Alphys isn't a Lesbian, Undyne isn't a Lesbian, both have shown feelings towards men, too, this is meant to help separate the idea that their attractions are so simple, Noelle follows this trend, the point isn't 'they're actually bisexual/pansexual' either, it's that these characters LIKE who they LIKE, trying to pigeonhole and categorize them for displaying attraction in one direction is fundamentally incorrect.just like how despite Pizzapants being all about 'the chicks', he's going to be balls-deep in Blue Ears by the end of Deltarune and it's SO fucking obvious that the actual important thing to him is that somebody actually likes HIM.these people make me want to scream with how they're hypocritically both 'progressive' while also flattening these characters to seek personal validation on their real-world identity politics bullshit.
this topic is ancient history isn't it
>>83144833The way I see it, Toby is being kept at proverbial gunpoint by his own fandom, the same fandom mind you, that supported the absolute cesspit that is the Homestuck fandom, the same fandom that when Tumblr fell, turned twitter into what it is today. It's all one big mess.The worst part is? Toby has no choice but to go along with it, because the only thing keeping the utterly retarded side of the fandom in check is the other, even more retarded side that has no problem with Doxing, SWAT-ing, Harassing or otherwise just threatening to kill themselves at the drop of a hat when they don't get what they want.
>>83145066toby could arguably provide a pretty good lore-related reason for monsters not really having strict sexualities to begin with: monsters don't necessarily have bimodal biological sexes like humans do. many seem to be genuinely genderless. wouldn't really add anything to the story for him to say it, but that's the way i think about it.
>>83144978>i see a very prey-animal reaction in that picHis hands were cold, that's all. But actually I think she would be shocked at first, then quickly reciprocate.
>>83145154See, that's a logical statement Anon, and if Deltarune had been released like 20 years ago, it would have been accepted.Nowadays? That's like throwing a lit match into a oil refinery.
>>83145146and another thing that pisses me off about the fandom? how rarely they actually depict Dess' guitar as having two strings, despite the fact that the game makes it clear that it only has two strings if you actually listen to it being strummed.the way it depicts this almost feels like it's trying to point out 'no this isn't a sprite limitation, it legitimately only has two strings' because that distinction might be IMPORTANT or something.but because of how frequently it's depicted incorrectly, it has led to an effect that will probably have it blindside people because they weren't paying attention.
>>83145253I wouldn't mind if you were angry about things a little less.
>>83145269I'm not actually 'that' angry, to be honest. I just wish people didn't seem to 'turn away' from these things.
>>83145053I mostly try to disdain them passively, but the occasional articulated rage is good for the heart. >>83145066This also irritates me on a spiritual level. The very same people who will twist your ear about Kris being nonbinary ackshually will describe any pairing involving him as Yuri or lesbians. The hypocrisy chafes my nuts something fierce, and they'll all pull out the same line about it being ok because queer is inherently feminine or something>>83145148I don't buy this at all; inasmuch as I think toby himself may believe it to be true, but it's a prison of the mind at best. He has more money than god, and the cultural cache to cash any check he feels like writing. He could get up on a podium and tell all the gays that they're going to hell and hit the straight arm salute and deltarune would still hit another set of record profits when chapter 5 drops. If I were slightly more pessimistic, I'd start to think that he was declining to clarify his intentions because any publicity is good publicity
>>83145269I know this isn't /sus/ but I would lick Veth's foot so damn fast.
>>83145253>>83145289Anon, it's a game sprite, everything is going to be scaled down and minimalized in detail due to the pixilation, do you honestly think something as thin as guitar strings are going to be otherwise visible to the player?Besides, it's a standard guitar, it would be incredibly retarded for a musically-inclined person like Dess to have a two-string guitar.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szYRdZSJdCs
>>83145253I'm almost certain it's just a sprite limitation. It has more than 2 strings when Susie plays it. I can hear at least 3 notes in the flubbed chord, and the first chord she gets right is 3 notes (when she says "Dude"). All the notes ring out, so they're all on separate strings. I'm also almost certain that either Earthbound or Mother 3 has a similar depiction of a guitar and that's where Toby got it from.
>Kreon>Noellely
>>83145586the thing is, there's a visual link from it being a two-stringed guitar to the guitar used in the Rock Band minigame, beyond that, a two-stringed guitar holds analogous links to the idea of things like 'doing two jobs at once' or 'contradicting forces or ideas in one location'.it may link to the idea that Dess is not in 'one location', but multiple, two.if it is a Two-Stringed guitar, it might actually be a visual hint that The Knight, with their red damage numbers, and the soul we play as, being red, might share a link, too, but it feels like Dess-Soul is one of the less popular theories because people misinterpret this as if our own agency within the game 'doesn't exist' under that framework, or that 'Dess is causing Snowgrave' when that's not the case
>>83142506artist?
>>83145661make noelle into a tiny mouse NOW
>>83145725https://x.com/Nokokoco/status/2008756948091768911>>83146091Would she be afraid of herself?
>>83146160she would be terrified of deer to contrast the phobia
>>83146091
>>83143626>He played her like a piano...Now play her like a Cello.
That's impressively low effort AI slop.
>>83134977Holy shit that boobas are BIG
do you think noelle's tail starts wagging whenever she sees kris
>>83146391A little
>>83146257Being played like a cello is for a different doe...
>>83134637Drew another doe!
>>83146950cute doe!
>>83146950Her thighs are just the right thickness here
I am quite fond of this doe and her boye
hey guys, me again, thread schizo, here to make the connections you might not think or care about.if this represents the ThornRing, the 'Ring of Heaven', potentially, and the Prophecy of Deltarune is the world's version of a religion, essentially, does this mean that Snowgrave 'resembles marriage' because we're thinking about it backwards?in that Marriage may be an institution designed to invoke the predicted bond of the first and second hero in-world in reverence to the prophecy? where religious symbolism eventually became common practice through time and casual observation?
>>83146399this is like the third edit of this gif ive seen
>>83147274Although this does pique my interest and potentially rich ground for fanfic, it's unfortunately soft-debunked by the canonThe things Alvin says about young Asriel experiencing guilt and requesting absolution for 'sin' despite the monster religion having no such concepts points to the existence of Christianity or a similar analogue existing in the world of deltarune.Though that does beg a series of questions along the lines of, where does this external religion fit between the workings of the monsters', especially with regards to an apparently profane marriage between the alleged heroes?
>>83147396given the way the prophecy references 'heaven' and 'hell', it might be for the sake of folding in what we would apply to Christian terminology, because it's possible that Toby intended for us to fill the blanks on what the prophecy as religion doesn't openly cover with 'Christian equivalence'but beyond everything else, the fact this is a prophecy panel just, more than anything screams to me 'interaction with the Thorn Ring may be mandatory, and Snowgrave might be the intended shape of the Prophecy'
>>83147460This is possible; the monster religion does share many of the trappings one would commonly associate with modern Christianity re:the general construction of the church, it being called a church, the stained glass, choir with uniformed vestments, meeting on Sundays, etc. However, Alvin's dialogue regarding Asriel asking forgiveness for the imagined 'sin' (that specific term, and Alvin clarifying that the monster religion has no such concept as sin being notable) of killing not-Yoshi in a video game is not inconsiderable evidence for an actual analogue to Christianity.I would definitely say that, not least because of its literal lack of sin, the monster religion is remarkably fatalistic. Joke or no, something as incredibly specific as Jockington growing a beard is part of the prophecy. Snowgrave may well be unavoidable, in that case
>>83147566part of what worries me about it all is that in the Pacifist Route, players may be essentially 'tricked' into equipping the ring, but at the same time it's possible that Noelle and Kris both become convinced it's something they WANT to use by the responsible party, and in such a case, it's down to us as the player to resist the overwhelming temptation set forth, perhaps poetically having us do the inversion of Snowgrave and be the force stopping the two from 'proceeding'
>>83147274>'resembles marriage'That's what I've been saying this entire time. The chapter 4 scene was an allegory for an arranged marriage between Kris and Noelle since it's the point of no return of them being inseparable until death on the road through weird route>Noelle was used up>You were used up (the video game segment uses "you" to refer to Kris, not the player)But porn addicted trannies and pretentious faggots misunderstanding the story and themes keep wanting to push the rape allegory despite it adding abso-fucking-lutely nothing to overall game.
>>83134634
>>83147274just as an addendum to this, the ring of heaven appears to be a Ring with two angelic wings sprouting from it, but there is another visual interpretation to it as well, potentially of course, I can never say with 100% certainty that it's intentional but.the way the 'wings' potentially resemble hands as well, could visually be taken as 'a ring shared between two different people', or 'a ring gifted from one hand to the other', which could be a visual metaphor for betrothal, and the process of equipping the thorn ring.I believe the prophecy is a repeated process, I don't believe the SPECIFICS of Snowgrave is carried out in each prior variation, but it's possible that the Thorn Ring, since it's light world equivalent is just that, a thorn, one given emotional purpose, it lends itself to the idea that it's common enough that it could be repeated through history.
>>83146617>Being played like a cello is for a different doe...That thought had occurred to me...
>AU Kris: boy it sure is nice to be back in Cyber City>AU Noelle:
>>83148662what
Who is she looking at?
>>83149079Noelle, obviously.
>>83149106The cutest girls in Hometown!
beat it up
Kris and Noelle's bond may very well be why 'the prophecy' is even occurring in Hometown, the appearance of 'the human' and 'the girl' with a bond many around them could see was like that of destined lovers may very well be what allowed several key figures in the light and dark world to move forward with plans in accordance with the prophecy, all this narrative weight may have been placed on the shoulders of two kids without their knowledge.Kriselle may very well be one of the core parts of the story of Deltarune, and it's about the two of them understanding this bond, and either following it with Destiny, or rejecting Destiny, yet understanding their feelings are still real underneath it all. in hindsight, when the framing becomes 'Noelle is trying to convince herself' when she says things like 'it was forced' or 'we're just neighbours', it reframes a lot of what she's said in earlier chapters.she may fully know that she loves Kris, but she's convinced herself that Kris doesn't, won't and could never love her back, and is trying desperately to convince herself to move on, but can't.so if Kris affirms a bond with her in Chapter 5, namely through her understanding the Dark World is real, she may not just fall for him, she may act like Ralsei does with Susie, freedom in the idea of finally having 'permission'.
noellebutt
>>83149604I firmly believe the Prophecy has, maybe not been broken or subverted, but it HAS be guided in a manner reminiscent of following the path of least resistance.Consider the fact that the depiction of "The Girl" in the prophecy panel shows her holding a SWORD, and NOT an AXE, or the fact that she is wearing a ROBE of some kind.Honestly, when we get the full picture eventually, I think we'll be in for a real doozy of a revelation.
>>83150108oh, I've been considering that for a year, considering Noelle is coded to be able to equip not only the JingleBlade, but the BlackShard, both weapons that Kris can equip, one of which explicitly being not only a sword, but a sword Kris cannot throw away, meaning if it's in your inventory it may very well become Noelle's starter weapon, but if you didn't pick it up, she may just have one herself, afterall, it is HER pencil.the symbolism of Noelle and Kris both using swords could represent a bond chosen, rather than a bond enforced.
>>83149279The adorablest.>>83149604I think there is a slight possibility that "love" in that context could be platonic. But if that were true it's harder to see how platonic love could spur her role in the prophecy.>>83149801Do I even want to know?
>Noelle finds love (Kris)>Finds out his plan to sacrifice himself>Sacrifices herself in his stead out of love, therefor fulfilling the original prophecy Kris was trying to avoid
the doe she isso whimsical so innocent so jollyi want to choke her to death and impregnate her
>>83152029MOOOODS
>>83150750to be honest, I'm pretty sure the original ending to the prophecy is about establishing a barrier between the Light and Dark Worlds, causing the finale of the Prophecy to match the Reverse Undertale Route by being a chapter that references the PROLOGUE of the game, wherein a 'war' is fought between 'the human' and 'the monster' and a barrier is established with 'the monster' forced into 'the underground'I believe that the prophecy is a sham, though, and like half the panels in it actually come from Lord of the Hammer, which makes the more 'modern' references happen, the Prophecy itself seems to be a sealing ritual to prevent the creation of new fountains, something that's been repeated, over and over again all around the world, that's WHY the prophecy's tenets involve the idea that 'any one of us could be the chosen heroes', that information is designed to help people start falling into archetypes, and it's not just Lightners doing this, but Darkners 'in attendence' of church services, tooso in this case, if a Darkner observes (even prior to even forming into a Darkner, as pre-Darkner objects still observe and form memories thanks to Tenna's rule establishing in chapter 3)'a human' and 'a girl' in close proximity who share a bond that looks like it's heading in the direction of romantic love, could we blame those Darkners for believing that these two are 'the first and second hero, and owing to my proximity, I must be the third'the prophecy is literally self-fulfilling and self-enforcing, it dogmatically creates a crop of heroes around the world every generation in order to maintain a barrier between the light and dark world, the only 'sacrifice' intended is the friendships made between lightners and darkners, it is religiously enforced separatism.'the first and second hero form a bond enforced by a Thorn Ring and with the third hero's guidance, use this power to create a barrier', that's my guess.>pictured: four people.
>>83152029Spoiler that shit man
>>83149801No idea what they're doing but seems whimsical
>>83134637Whump heEEEEEEREgive me a request or two or perhaps 3
>>83152321Noelle and Kris
>>83152321Draw the chilens hugging
>>83152321Susie getting cucked
>>83152321Dessember emotionally telling Kris about an attack while he is scared
>>83152321Dess wearing Noelles outfit. Her big breasts have torn a big rip down the middle of the bust
>>83152321A tiny Kris sitting on top of Noelle's head directing her around by her antlers.
>>83153066The Tiny Desk Krises are evolving
>>83153089>(I remember when you used to be so little, Kris...)
>Carol to Noelle>"now why don't you make like a December Holiday and Merry Christmas already."
>>83153205If you say so
>>83153228is this a reference to the Law ending of Catherine?
>>83152321Baby Noelle to Baby Kris communication (gibberish or staring into each other's eyes or what have you)Maybe with Carol/Rudy monitoring the situation
>>83152271deer eat tree bark
>>83153971>>83134637grub to grub communication
>>83154788Carol legitimately just being someone who loves her family under all the icy layers is something I'm hoping is revealed, potentially that she has to act numb so as not to fall into impracticality.really like your style here, there's a certain rawness to it that feels like it presents something not all artists do,
Kriselle will save the earth.
>>83154788Fuck off, traitor.
>>83154788Cute!
>>83152321Is /sus/cord not giving you enough ideas?
>>83145148Question for you. The whole "Homestuck -> Tumblr -> Twitter" pipeline I can understand. But where do you think the pipeline originally started? Twitter is the main cultural zeitgeist that propagated the behaviour like a bubonic plague rat, but where did it originally come from, before Homestuck and the modern internet? Was there a forum for shit like this? Some other media they leeched off of to survive?
>>83152321So you came crawling back? Pathetic.
>>83156008The obvious answer is Something Awful but certain communities converged elsewhere.
>>83156077Useful chart. Completely forgot about SA. I would assume some of the tranny leaning communities probably came from more pornographic or taboo websites, potentially even surface level dark web shitstorms that simply leaked out onto the older forums with no punishment. Makes me wonder if the Musk takeover/Bluesky creation is going to actually have lasting impact or not. FWIW, trans shit is dying nearly everywhere save for pockets in places a la deltarune/indie-[anything] related spaces, so maybe there's some hope.
Swap AU where Kris and Noelle take the place of Chara and Asriel
>>83156197>trans shit is dying nearly everywheredoubt.jpg
>>83152321more noelle cuck porn, since you apparently think that's alright
Some people really enjoy wasting their weekends with their limited time on this planet doing petty shit huh
>>83156713>Noelle flowey horrific
>>83157443don't be shocked when the people you occupy a general with happen to use more than one general and also happen to notice the stuff you post in other said generals
>>83152321Kris wearing Dess's jacket following her disappearance
>>83157443I don't get where the idea came from that /doe/ and /sus/ are enemies to begin with.
Any more cuck porn?
>>83157674It's some pedonigger upset that this place wouldn't change to their liking, and now they see /sus/ as another target to vent their frustrations. Nothing new. But we should change the topic, I shouldn't have brought it up to begin with.
>>83157674>>83157738>talking to yourself
Looks like you all need another reminder of how he really feels about this general. Can't spare the time for more than one drawing but a multi-page cucking comic against two characters, oh he can move the world for that one. Lmao.
>>83156008>but where did it originally come fromI think what >>83156077 posted is pretty clear, but I want to elaborate:Not all indie communities start off as insufferable pits to be avoided at all costs, its the work of years and hundreds, if not thousands of continuous interactions over the course of years/lifetime of the project in question for it to get to that point, and there's always the chance it just flops/the creator dies or loses interest, or it gets eclipsed by something better and forgotten.The point is, past a certain threshold, a community that started off as maybe a few hundred fans discussing the project as it comes out can turn into millions of disparate personalities that each want to add something, and end up creating a toxic feedback loop where community consensus outweighs commonsense, and you wind up with echo chambers that never had to deal with someone disagreeing with them being introduced en-masse to the rest of the internet and elsewhere.
>>83157766Don't be upset that you can't dictate where artists spend their time.
>>83157783
>>83157783I'm used to getting cucked.
>>83157797Don't forget, /sus/ doesn't gatekeep characters. But /doe/ does! They even like to gatekeep Noelle's family members, one of which Whump likes to draw a lot. Guess you should've THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, HUH?
>>83157821>>83157807And he seems perfectly fit to dish it out again.
>>83157835>>83134634https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4
>>83157674hard not to have discontent when they can get away with krusielleposting but if you even try to do the same thing here you just get ignored or insulted
>>83153066>>83134637
>>83158241>on her way to get cucked by the remote-controlled Kris controlling her
>>83158241cuck
I don't understand what motive threadshitters have, are they venting anger, are they falseflagging to try and actually drive people away?are they salty /sus/ users who see the writing on the wall regarding the way the story of the game is going? I notice they get uppity every time I've posted theory that circles the idea that Susie probably isn't staying in the Light World, something deeply inconvenient for her fans to address if all they're interested in is shipping her with a Lightner.
>>83158241Somebody call pest control, there's a RAT in her hair.
>>>/trash/sus
>>83158241go crawl back to /sus/
>>83158241His master plan this whole time...Great art, Whump
>>83158426>I don't understand what motive threadshitters haveIt varies, most of the time its terminally-online people with absolutely nothing better to do than to spend hours fucking with people or shitting up threads.Some just have it out for specific people(Whump and other artists in this case), though I've seen it on occasion with writers, musicians and others that produce Original Content.Remember though, this is 4chan, specifically the /trash/can of 4chan, and it tends to draw Anon's from all over whose off-topic thread got moved here from a different board and decided to stay. To say this board has a lot of conflicting personalities is an understatement.
Minikris piloting Noelle to go hit on Susie while he's right there watching!
>>83158837I don't know how people like you can see content like that as not being malicious against the characters involved, nor how someone from here wouldn't have a problem with it. Like... I don't get it at all
I don't know what's going on here, but NTR is a garbage fetish.
I like how you can always tell when /sus/fags crosspost because the general suddenly gets so much higher quality
>>83158426Mad they couldn't strongarm /doe/ into accepting their uninspired, low-effort "content" so they are doing everything they can to make it unusable.>>83159078Lost where the distant boye would grow.
>>83157766He really is a piece of shit.
>>83158241Nobody wants you here anymore.
>>83158241thought he was making her buy wonder bread for a second
>>83159266Just look at how they sweep for him knowing he's willing to come back after drawing cuckshit, too. They don't give a goddamn about Noelle at all, they just want to maximize their free content.
>>83158910>I don't know how people like you can see content like that as not being malicious against the characters involvedI never said I didn't find it malicious, but mate, you gotta understand that if you spend over a decade on a site like this, your gonna develop something of a jaded outlook on the casual mockery, name-calling or liberal use of slurs a lot of threadshitters use to start shit in threads.No offense to Whump, Solstice or any of the other artists that might be reading this, but I'm not gonna hold your hand and tell you everything's gonna be ok as the resident thread-tard insults you for the Nth time, all I can say is to ignore it and move on, and to instead take pride in the positive reception your work receives, like literally every other artist that's ever posted to 4chan before.
>>83159196As opposed to inspired high-effort content like >>83094034.
>>83159305>your gonna develop something of a jaded outlook on the casual mockery, name-calling or liberal use of slurs a lot of threadshitters use to start shit in threads.I... don't think you understood what I meant by that statement. I think the inclusion of Noelle and Catti was very unnecessary to writing a good story, and including them at all, knowing how they would react, just feels spiteful. Yeah, we know how Noelle reacts to Krusie and yeah, we know how Catti feels about Susie herself, but that doesn't mean people wanna see it illustrated in their softcore comic. I can't get behind that behavior at all.
>>83158426Threadcop is likely mentally ill. OCD or something like that. Not much you can do about it because we have zero moderation. There might be one other guy like him who's more just autistic than OCD with different goals, but not 100% sure.The others are just occasional shitposters, which is just a native trait for 4chan users and much less of a problem. Whump has always been a controversial figure so this isn't anything terribly new either.>are they salty /sus/ users who see the writing on the wallDoubt it. Seems like a lot of expended energy for nothing in return.
>>83159078Whump is an NTRfag now.
>>83159405>nowPic related was posted in September.
>>83159405>>83159433He's drawn pointlessly mean shit all the time, including gore, Kris kneeing Noelle until she was bloody and even Kriselle cucking Susie. Why is Noelle getting cucked suddenly a surprise to you people?
>>83159301It’s really pathetic. I thought we’d have a little bit more self respect than that.
>>83159386Okay, now I'M the one confused here anon, I was responding to >>83158426 concerning the motives of threadshitters for acting the way they do, where are you pulling those statements about Susie and Catti from?
>>83159476Agreed. We should all resign ourselves to seeing Noelle be cucked.
>>83159479explains the way /sus/ is the way it is, too
>>83159488I mean, multiple people can join in on a conversation at any point in time. I replied to you, you replied to me and I had my thoughts on the matter regarding what you said. Not everyone is going to indicate that they're a different Anon chiming in. Idk, sorry for not making that clear I guess.
>>83159495Just play Deltarune
>>83159584It's Kris being cucked though?
>>83159476I would prefer if he didn't post any of that shit at all! He's not an innocent baby! He's knows what he's doing putting that content out there! He knows what sort of reaction it's going to garner, so why does he do it!
>>83152321draw noelle and susie lezzing out while kris is hanging himself in background
>>83159645don't tempt him, he drew this in /doe/ for a completely mundane shitpost request too >>83159433
>>83159645this
>>83152321Can I just ask a question? Completely neutral, not trying to start anything, I just want to know because I need to understand if that was a case of a shitter samefagging himself.Was this you who made this reply to that guy?https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/83064833/#q83095641And if it was, why did you think replying to a person like that was a good idea?
>>83159609Because he’s a an asshole, and it’s genuinely pathetic of us to just let him back in like nothing happened.
>>83159698Clearly a lot of people aren't.
>>83159528>I mean, multiple people can join in on a conversation at any point in timeOh no, I get that Anon, I do it all the time too, but what is confusing me is why your taking what I said to equate to talking about the actions of certain posters in this thread to be the same sort of general statement concerning writing about characters.…I don't know where i was going with this to be hoinest, so lets just terminate the conversation here, 'k?>>83159609>so why does he do it!Because I assume he was taking requests and that popped up as one of them?Look mate, I dont like gore as much as the next guy, much less involving characters I like, but the hard truth is that stuff exists, entire threads of it exist here on the site as it is, getting mad about it though isnt gonna do anything about it, best you can do is hide the post and move on with your life
>>83159690Not Whump, but you should bother to read through the threads you're linkinghttps://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/83064833/#q83096269
>>83159714And others are. Still praising him as if he didn’t shit on us because he’s a spiteful rat.
>>83159769They don’t really care in the end. They just want free art.
>>83159740>Because I assume he was taking requests and that popped up as one of them?W-what the fuck? Topkek, what the heck does that matter?? You don't just draw shit just because someone asks all the time. Bro, what? You need restraint, if I asked him to draw, color and scan Noelle getting her head crushed by a meat tenderizer while Kris and Dess are fucking in the background and Asriel is reciting Shakespeare and jerking off, am I supposed to expect he'll draw that with as much certainty as anything else? It's an absurd, hyperbolic example because to me, the suggestion that he *should* draw any unpalatable request is absurd. I wouldn't expect him to make half the controversial content he's made if I knew someone directly asked him for it! Dude.
>>83159743I wouldn't have interpreted that as being him and it seems like I wasn't even the only person to do so, but you can pretty clearly see Susie's purple head in the background, so I'm gonna say doubt to that one.
>>83159859He wouldn’t do it because he doesn’t like Kress or Asriel. He would draw Noelle getting killed because he’s sick in the head.
>>83159948didn't he draw dessriel rape while explicitly saying dess would never see kris that way
>>83159948>He wouldn’t do it because he doesn’t like KressHe only said he doesn't draw Kress because it'd just "fan the flames" which implies that if some people weren't so psychotic over grown-up characters doing non-canonical things, he may have done more. Guess we'll never know that, though. Content cops axing something else.
>>83159962No, but he did draw Azzy killing his unborn child, and explicitly said he was happy that he did it.
>>83160008>fan the flamesis drawing dess getting kirk'd and doemestic abuse and body horror and whatever this krusie drama is about not doing that well enough already??
>>83160008But abortion murder, and gore aren’t? Are you retarded, or do you just believe everything at face value.
>>83160008
>>83160044
Alright I give up.
>>83160110Based
>>83160008>Content cops axing something else.I made that Dess punching wood req to Jelly and a bunch of annoying faggots piled in and started spamming him with Dess reqs, which probably made him think they were all shitposters including me. Can't have shit anywhere.
>>83159859Mate, why are you getting so high-strung about this? Your acting like Whump drawing something is going to personally impact you, newsflash anon, its not.If Whump wants to go through the effort of drawing something graphic, so what? These are not real people anon, no one is getting hurt, raped, killed or whatever crime you think is going on here, and again, if you don't like the art, just hide the post for fucks sake.Furthermore, who says you shouldn't make unpalatable content? If we had such rules, a picture like pic related wouldn't exist because people like you would deride it as too "graphic" and demand it be destroyed.
I won.
>>83160008That sounds like a shitty excuse.
>>83160220>Your acting like Whump drawing something is going to personally impact youYou think posting something like that isn't going to cause drama?
>>83159859that's so absurd that it'd actually be pretty funny>>83160220in all fairness that painting was never intended to even be seen by public eyes
I wonder if all the faggots here kicking the only creative people away have fathers, like, at all
>>83160220I wholeheartedly encourage him to make things like that in /sus/ and see how quickly it tanks his reputation. You seem to be of the opinion that shocking content should be allowed to exist for the sake of itself, and I disagree because that stuff is unwanted, engenders controversy and ends up being used as ammo by bad actors as seen in this very thread, that /sus/ thread and probably any thread he's ever going to post in moving forward within future memory. There's clearly issues motivating some of these pictures, and I'd rather them be vented somewhere that isn't 4chan. Thanks.
Noelle?
>>83160044>>83160097>>83160105Abortions and IRL murders are funny, Kress isn’t. Die mad.
>>83160260>You think posting something like that isn't going to cause drama?Something only causes drama if we let it anon, no matter how tasteful or distasteful the content of a picture, end of the day, it's just a picture.Question is, are YOU going to let it bother you to such a degree? Only you can answer that question yourself anon.
>>83160351I wonder if you can get Whump’s dick out of your mouth, or if it’s stuck in there.
outside observer here and it's funny that this all stresses him less than being criticized for the kris screwdriver incident
>>83159698>>83159769>usdude we're nobody, we're Anonymous, there's no "us." every drawfag and writefag here is screaming into the void and the void is screaming back, be it obscenities or praise. if you think anyone here is after (You) personally then you're mistaken, (You) are nobody and neither am I. so let them post (they will anyways) and you can scream back whatever you please, just don't take it personally, (You) aren't real here.
>>83154788A-doe-able
Doe!
>>83160360His issue is being an actual tranny.
>>83160394>Something only causes drama if we let it anonNigga he LET the anti-Kress shitposters influence HIS decisions. Read the post right here:https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/79865647/#q79878987He called it a flame war. He KNOWS it's bullshit. Come on.
>>83160423>so let them postDessriel and Kress still don't belong here.
>>83160405He doesn’t have a dick anymore.
If you don't like incest, gore, rape, and cuckoldry you're not welcome here.
>>83160406Do you want us to bring that up again?
Editions, please. Later bake.
>>83160523*if you like
>>83146950>>83160533Legs for Days Edition
>>83160405i'm not the one samefagging to get a guy you don't even know the name of out of an internet forum about posting doe
