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hello how are youi am under the water
So what’s gonna happen?
>>83662752More like Boring Edition!
>>83662814Do you think this is from Gaster's perspective?
>>83662752Lost in all the shipping brouhaha is the fact Pizzapants seems to imply here that Dess wasn't actually good at guitar, and that Kris's piano carried the band. Did anyone else notice that? I know it's a minor thing, but...
>>83662814More nothing. More stalling. Subversive piece of shit should be arrested, he gave money to terrorists.
I really got the feeling that Kris has a crush on Noelle still. The Ferris wheel scene, shutting the book when he gets to their childhood in his home, immediately opening a dark fountain after the lake scene, it's fascinating.
>Kaz fucking hates it
>>83662892Why should he? Dessriel confirmed, Kress decomfirmed as Kris's cuck crush.
we're eating good today boys
>>83662868there's enough to take it both ways, kris having a crush on susie or noellenot that he's actually allowed to act on any of his feelings whatsoever, that'd be crazy
>>83662909All I had is a vaguely jewish man in his 30s shitting on my plate.
>>83662892KrisDPizza has declared jihad on Noelle and Susie for the Catti scene......which I missed entirely because I didn't realize you could actually enter the church. Luckily it's right at the start so I can just backup save>delete>restart to see it
>>83662837I guess Kris really is that good a piano player.
>>83662892Wasn’t she bitching about how it was unfair to Noelle that she kept getting left behind and humiliated, and that she belonged with Susie? She got what she wanted, so what’s the matter?
>"okay, thanks for coming tonight, here's how kriselle could still happen">*gunshot*
Just finished the chapter and saw the WR. (Any kind of comfyness from NR was vanished with THAT scene)Did anyone else find the secret ferris wheel ride with Noelle? That was pretty cute, I'm wondering if there was anything you could have done to get more kriselle-centric scenes.
kek you go to xitter and all the normalfags talking about how disappointed they are about chapter 5, is tobys reign of terror finally coming to an end?
>>83662987i guess all that waiting for a lukewarm chapter must've touched a nerve didn't it
>>83662987the spics won in the end because the wapanese chapter is shit, insane
>>83662987Dess do something
>>83662984>I'm wondering if there was anything you could have done to get more kriselle-centric scenes.Yes, if you go to the church bathroom, Noelle jerks Kris off with a napkin before flushing his cum down the toilet so that he won't get too excited when Susie gropes her.
>>83662987Chapter (in NR) so gay even the gays can't stand it. We may be onto the start of an extraordinary backlash, but maybe tricky tony expected this after all...
>>83663011>>83663016LMAO EVEN THE WATERMELON NIGGAS THINK IT SUCKS HOW CAN YOU FUCK UP THIS BADLY
>>83662987I'm quite unsurprised really. It's the most in-tune I've ever felt with so many casual members of this fandom.
Should we put suicide hotline numbers in the OP?
>>83662984Yup, thought it was super cute. I don't know if I've ever seen Noelle laugh that hard. The piano dialogue in the church also changes a bit. Timing the hammer perfectly was also something. If there's anything besides that, I missed it.
I'm starting to think some of you are actually into cuckolding scenarios.
Kralseibros won..... I kneel
>>83662987You think Toby cares? He already got everyone’s money, and he’d rather die than give up his dykeslop.
>>83663075
>>83663100Kris is the watcher.
>>83663058im glad people are finally realizing tricky tony never was that good of a writer
>>83663073Not so cute because it doesn’t change anything. Noelle still doesn’t want anything to do with anyone who isn’t Susie.
>>83663075If I were FORCED to WATCH someone ELSE take Noelle... THAT would be KEKOLDING. I HAVE to take her as my own.
>>83663100Susie can watch
>>83663043That’s the best way to put it.You can REALLY tell Chapter 5 was made mostly by Toby’s tranny team with little intervention from him.
>>83663087Based Ralsissy giving Kris the bussy.
>>83663121Tag team threesome with Ralsei as the referee.
Here's your chair selfinsertbros, got you a whole ass side table and an ottoman so ya can really settle in
>>83662814Gaster time skips and Noelle absorbs the soul as Kris dies
>>83663131Makes it even worse over the fact that you can't just beat the shit out of Flowery with normal attacks and must actLike straight up susie and ralsei refuse to fight him and can only act after you attack him, Susise straight up heals himIt's bullshit it shows they didn't have a plan for beating the boss using different options
>>83663159AMOGUS
>>83663168(You)elle would be peak, so sure.
>>83663043i don't think it was THAT level of bad but they should have gone with a more plot relevant secret boss like the others
>>83663119You weren’t forced to. Kris was. Why are you taking things so personally?
>>83663131>You can REALLY tell Chapter 5 was made mostly by Toby’s tranny team with little intervention from him.Ironic because even the troons are disliking it lmaoI just keep finding gems like this
>>>/vg/571769835>"I’m a little disappointed but shipping wars be dammed, I’m happy for them. It’s not too late for Kris and Noelle to mend their relationship even if they’re just friends. I never wanted them to be more than a couple, anyway. Toby did the wrong thing by confirming a ship because the toxic shippers are being toxic shippers but hey, the writing was on the wall. Suselle was growing me anyway.">NORTHERNLIGHTZZZZ asking that question in the Magma chatPFFFTTTTTTTT HAHAHAHAHAHAYOUR DRAWFAGS ARE ALREADY BETRAYING YOU AHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
>>83663159everytime I close my eyes I see it
>>83663179This is a pretty natural progression from Susie's learning healing magic and her lesson from Gerson
It's a fun chapter, why aren't you having fun? The girls sure do!
>>83663229HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Same artist on the Magma btw. PFFFFTTTTTTTT HE WAS ALWAYS A YURIFAGYOU KNOW WHUMP IS NEXT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5222_-4pEaY>best track isn't even in the soundtrackCome on Toby
>>83663225the gameplay isnt even that great either....
>>83663179Everything about the chapter was aimless, it’s like Toby stopped giving his opinions and the team just started putting a bunch of unconnected bullshit. I miss the silly art style, I miss the simple and janky designs of Chapter 1 and 2. Chapter 5 is too “pretty” in a bad way, because it’s dishonest about its beauty. It’s like when they put lens flare in movies.Just completely fucking aimless and clueless, no artistry, no restraint, this is by far the worst letdown in gaming I’ve ever seen.Even xitter normies didn’t like it, if even normies dont like it then you know it SUCKS.
>>83663255Already did a long time ago.
>>83663229Never like his ren and stimpy ass designs. Nothing of value is lost.
>>83662984>>83663073If you mistime the hammer, Noelle mentions she had to line it up for when Kris decides to hit it. But Susie mentions that they got it perfectly. Just another moment that proves Kris and Noelle know each other better than anyone else knows them.
>>83663073I gotta ask, why add these details? What's the point? Toby could have easily handwaved away any sort of details about Noelle's and Kris's relationship, but he KEEPS ADDING UNTO.THEY WANTED TO BE KING AND QUEEN OF THE FESTIVAL? NOELLE TIMES HER STRIKE WITH KRIS'S PERFECTLY? KRIS SHOOK THE FERRIS WHEEL TO CONSOLE NOELLE?!?!?! WHY WOULD YOU SHOW ALL OF THAT IF YOU WANTED TO SHUT IT DOWN?!?!?I AM GRIPPING ON I AM TAKING THE CRAZY PILLS
>>83663222It's called having fun in the thread. I feel nothing about these topics in reality, but I have fun pretending to be all these silly little anons. I know you can relate.
>>83662987I liked the chapter on a mechanical level but it's the most disappointing so far, especially the music which is something a Toby chapter shouldn't lack in.
>>83663263I agree. I fucking hated the side scroller gimmick, such a sad thing to see this game I love get completely destroyed by clueless trannies that put pandering to themselves over artistic integrity.
>>83663293Is it any worse that fucking climbing segments in ch4?
>>83662752Wellness check. I just finished Chapter 5.How are you DoeBros holding up?
>>83663277Because Kriselle still has potential. We went through this same argument in Chapter 4, but there's still a lot of Kriselle moments in Chapter 4. Arguably a lot of it was reaffirming that Kris and Noelle know each other more than anyone else. Which says a lot.
Reminder:>Undertale Genocide is commentary on rpg grinding and optimizing fun out of your own experience >Kris is commentary on blank slate silent protagonists and exerts their own will against you to debunk the idea >Kris will not actually romance any of the friends in the end, including Ralsei or any background npc, as commentary on power fantasy Chad Simulator games where every single character worships the MC's dick
>>83663277Trust in the twisted route. Thinking back on the final survey results, the response regarding the ferris wheel seems to indicate that there might be a single situation in which we can see them together.
>>83663308Kill yourself.
>>83663310Reminder:>This makes it a bad game.
>>83663310How is it a commentary when Susie takes that role instead?
>>83663308some are coping, some are roping, some are roping (as in cumming)
>>83663305I liked the climbing because it had a good skill ceiling, getting the timing right was really satisfying. The side scroller gimmick was so underdeveloped and boring. The most interesting thing they did with were the puzzles requiring you to switch perspectives and that’s it
>>83663268When you think about it, maybe that's why Toby didn't talk about it much. If he wanted people to be surprised on how disappointing the chapter was, maybe that worked out for him. Personally, it wasn't that awful but I miss the jank of the old chapters too. If this is where we're leading off with, I'm not sure if the last two chapters will be worth looking into. I got my fill with Kris, Susie, and Noelle though.
>>83663310By that argument Suselle is just a product of being forced by the prophecy, therefor isn't truly validating Suselle. It's more likely that this will be revealed and the game will be open ended for ships, because even when taking all that into account, it doesn't prove that Krusie or Kriselle is inherently toxic as long as it isn't forced.
>>83663316So badly?
>>83663233Yeah but the flowers just fully heal during fights and force you to act, with the exception of the aqua and seth fight
>>83663335>When you think about it, maybe that's why Toby didn't talk about it much. If he wanted people to be surprised on how disappointing the chapter was, maybe that worked out for himanon this sounds like cope
>>83663331I knew this would happened
>>83663277>KRIS SHUTS DOWN THE PHOTO WHEN IT'S ABOUT NOELLE AND HIM>KRIS GRIMACES WHEN SUSIE TALKS ABOUT BRINGING NOELLE INTO THE DARK WORLD>THE ENTIRE SEQUENCE OF WRI'M STUCK IN THE FUCKING BUILDING AGAINTOBY WHEN I GET MY HANDS ON YOU-
>>83663310Don't worry, Kris, Noelle isn't going to be worshipping *your* dick
>>83663335Do you really think Toby would intentionally alienate most of his fanbase by giving them a disappointing new chapter on purpose. Remember he’s still the writer.
God my stomach has been churning for 5 hours at this point ever since watching the WR scene. I'm so fucking worried for them.
Any fic / greentext recommendations?I really need a detox from chapter 5. That shit was cancer
>>83663370This face makes me rock hard it's crazy.I need femdom porn with this expression.
>>83663353im just spitballing whatever bullshit i can pull out of my ass
>>83663343>Soulelle stocks are GOING TO THE MOONAll is right in the world.
>>83663309You're talking about woodchucks in your eye when there's a whole fucking log showed up your ass. Chapter 4 never explicitly confirmed suselle though it teetered on the edge. Chapter 5 did, right in your face, Susie and Noelle dancing in the lake, holding each other and confessing love while Kris is sitting on the cuck bench, with Noelle even having that audacity of asking why Kris is still there. Even worse, Susie confirms she was bullying Kris because she wanted to take Noelle for her (and never apologized). There's no coming back from that. At best Kris would be a third wheel that's treated slightly better.
>>83663075This is the general form of a game hacker.
>>83663374No, you need to praise it and call it kino.
>>83663310If you think this way you shouldn't make gamesThat's how I lose my entertainment I play rpgs all the time I don't wanna lose them
i need to know if rudy is dead or he just broke his backpls toby I can't wait years
>>83663371The fact that the normalfags really dislike this chapter speak numbers. Toby's losing his spark if he ever had any.
>>83663389Yeah, I can already tell it's going to be buckets for SOULelle from me now. Chapter 5's Weird Route was maybe ten minutes long and yet was easily its strongest part. I'm looking forward to the art and fics of the yandeer
>>83663396damnation and watery coronation
>>83663439He didn't fall, he fell down. Important terminology in play there.So he's not dead yet, but will be.
Just realized it would be really smart to filter the word cuck at this point. I don't think I've seen a single reasonable post using that word.>>83663431As much as it disturbs me emotionally, story-wise it is very interesting. I hate that it exists, but it's a necessary evil for Deltarune's story.
>>83663439rudy knighters how can we recover from this....>>83663390fair enough
This thread is filled with with schadenfreude.
I instantly got hard when I saw Noelle's face sprite and heard her voiceI feel like a psychopath
>>83663455Thanks for letting me know, I'll be sure to use synonyms next time.
>>83663447>kris railing noelle while shouting for him to proceed with every thrustyeah, im thinking kino
>>83663447Based, I'm glad people agree.>>83663465Don't be ashamed, it's great
Am I going insane or does Kris look depressed here?
>>83663455How are done to death yandere tropes interesting?
>>83663484Kris knows that fountain will be closed.
>>83663465>I feel like a psychopathIf it makes you feel any better man, you're not alone with this feel
>>83663268If that was the work of rogue team members, he could recall the chapter until it gets polished. He won't.
Something that surprised me from this chapter is finding out Noelle likes horror movies
>>83663454which is odd because he's fine in the weird routeif it's really "fallen down" then why are they different?
>>83663435Genocide route of Undertale is genuinely a huge part of what skyrocketed Undertale to the level of success it had tho
>>83663495It makes my dick hard.
>>83663465the pitch change and jitter effects with her voice and dialogue was such a menacing decision, perfectly captured he lapsing between speaking and hitting manic highs
>>83663268i feel like im in titanfolk again
>>83663495That's not the point of WR, it's main point pushing the meta aspects of Deltarune, whilst also showcasing an awful tragedy of two characters who were distant being forced to commit heinous acts. Therefor reuniting under the worst conditions. I wouldn't like it if it was nothing but sadism, but there's is a genuine point of it being an alternate look at both characters and their relationship.
you just can tell the the final chapter will be a tadc level disaster that will ruin tobys legacy forever and I just cant wait for it to happen, specially the part where all the mysteries about gaster never get solved
>>83663528Holy shit the japanese and koreans really love crazy noelle I guess they like their women being nutjobs
>>83663526So? That’s not very interesting.
>>83663535Yeah, done to death yandere tropes. I already said that. You didn’t need to repeat me.
>>83663528>those teethWRONG!
>even the OST was forgettable
>>83663308I should have done WR before NR, I wouldn't have been playing the whole chapter with dread if I was knowing all of this gay shit wouldn't matter anyway.
I just finished "it."Toby Fox you fucking HACK.Chapter SEVEN??????ANOTHER HALF A DECADE OF AGONIZING WAITING TO SEE THE GOOD STUFF.OH MY TRAGEDY.i HATE you toby.
>>83663592Boybiters
>>83663580The yandere aspect isn't really the focus, it's the boundaries pushing that the player is willing to go with Noelle that breaks the meta.
>>83663551>I guess they like their women being nutjobsThis is known... and I agree with them.
>>83663592chinese water deer please understand
DOWN.
>>83663621You're replying to a known threadshiter. They don't care.
>>83663513If you got a problem with self inserting make a film insteadKeep it away from role-playing games which are specifically designed to let you do that
>bath scene>Kris and Ralsei have canonically seen eachother's dicks
>>83663621It is now. That’s all it amounted to in the end, other than further confirmation that she doesn’t like Real Kris, only Susie, or us. All it boils down to is generic slop, and that’s why it’s garbage.
>>83663650Do they always do this? Thanks for the heads up.
It's funny how this prediction piece got it totally backwards
>>83663627Oh, there's some water in that deer alright. We all float down here.
>>83663650Not everyone who disagrees with you is the same person, fren.
>>83663655>>>/trash/dum/
>>83663596had a grand total of 1 actual bangerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWf9_qSrnOMthe CHAD flowery boss theme of course, this man was the best thing about the chapter by far
>>83663644>Kris remember when you poured acid on us and we died?
oh, imagespammer's here to rub salt on the wound
>>83663644>"Fahahaha! Oh Kris... remember that time we almost drowned in the World's Largest Pot of Chile Con Carne™? I couldn't get the smell out of my hair for a week!">"Sigh... why don't we do that anymore?"
>>83663601Feels bad man
>>83663666>people were making art about drowned dess yesterday>it turns out it was noelle and kris that drowned
lol
Generic lesbian NTR vs Mind raped dykebreaking NTR
>>83663666How could we have possibly predicted the psychological effects of the status called trance? It doesn't seem to have put her into a trance at all, it rather seems as though she has just lost her inhibitions.
>>83663484In my run, Kris went there with a balloon with a heart on it because I didn't want him to accompany Susie after they closed the fountain. Kris looked less depressed than that.
>>83663659If you say so man. It's adding something to what's already a mediocre chapter anyway.
>>83663713All Doe has left is rape, no more love...
>>83663690Flowery and aqua were the only good parts of the entire chapter. The amount of squandered potential in one single chapter is baffling.
>>83663713In your dreams, cucky.
>>83663690Based, I liked his song too.
>>83663735She can still be loved
>>83663731Added what? A mediocre scene that you could find in garbage like School Days? Get better taste.
has this iToddler really been at it for over twelve hours
>>83663749It’s funny because the opposite happened.
>>83663690Flowery is so awesome
>>83663749Just in other different ways of course...>>83663764Kek he's trying to bite me
>>83663749That's LOVE, not love.>>83663776This really happened.
>>83663764I'm just glad I have phone posts to be filtered.
>>83663762Sure. Lighten up Francis.
>>83663621At this point, Noelle being yandere is merely a consequence of having tried everything possible to make the final outcome of Deltarune change. Noelle is basically the Flowey of this world.
>>83663814lol
Anyways I gotta play it now so I am out
>>83663762not like yours is any better
>>83663868Forgot image
>>83663824Got it!
It's kind of odd there is WR fan art already on Danbooru and Asia Twitter. But the west still hasn't. Even e621 doesn't have chapter 5 WR stuff yet.
>>83663087>>83663142Maybe this is all ralsei doing he used his weird ass fluffy femboy darkner powers to brainwash susie to get rid of her and noelle to finally get Kris dick all for himself
>>83663851Do you think she'd adopt his mannerisms since she reached her breaking point on that weird route?
>>83663872>no uPredictable, but still pathetic. 3/10
>>83663919Based Ralsei hedging the competition for the human dickening of a lifetime.
so the only good route now is a route thats only 1/3 of the game. Is it trully worth it then?
>>83663907No porn yet tho but crazy doe is nice to look at
https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVz593n3>>83663932How we feeling, bros?
>>83663920Well she definitely adopted the manic facial expressions.
>>83663933Lmao
>>83663814
>>83663922you wrote the exact type of shit as I expected. do better.
>>83663936How can you not love her?
Not gonna be able to bake again. Someone else will have to take over.
Since this is the Snowcoomer Youelle general now, can we make another one for actual Kriselle discussion?
>>83663944I said ass, but that's because there need to be ass before we can ascend to Noelle's heaven. (Susie has not learned anything from Gerson lole)
Toby gave me diabetes with this and then cured it by giving me cancer at the beach
>>83663997Go ahead be my guest and make one yourself theres nothing wrong with yandeer
>>83664021
>>83664049
>>83663947Then she's definitely getting there.
>>83663997/holiday/ is the secret boss of deltarune threads and it has a shadow crystal and the freedom leitmotif. although that one was for kress so maybe you have to come up with your own
>>83663997Why bother?
Its over. Kriselle is non canon and now its just souelle.
Kris deserved everything and worse for being a liar.
>>83664098Excellent
>>83663997Why do we need to run from our own home? Shouldn’t the other guys make their own General instead?
>>83664102You say that like it’s a bad thing. Why should Kris tell the truth when there’s nobody worth telling it to?
>>83663729Ah! Got it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6aSuIf_ljs>>83664098Same as it ever was
>>83664136what but certainly noelle would...>remember chp 5 nvm
>>83664117There are no "other guys" now. Chapter 5 was the fucking Apocalypse for Krusie and Kriselle. We have to band together as deerfuckers to survive the coming famine
The floodgates are beginning to crack open. Angst and edgekino will abound.
>>83664170What can we do to preserve our home?
remember we only have each other from now on
Me
>>83664021You are now thinking about Noelle calling Kris her "Dreamer"
>>83664117Just feels like the easier thing to do at this point. Plus we won’t have to wait until the next thread.
>>83664194Rape them all with your heartcock.
>>83664117We are not so different. I say nothing when you post your lovey dovey saccharine images and your porn, and yet you spit on me merely for enjoying fruit freshly plucked from the tree? You have attacked me, not the other way around. I have no quarrel with you.
>>83664170Speak for yourself. I’m not going to let canon get in the way of what I love, and none of you should either. This is our General, not theirs.
>>83664098You're doomposting too hard. Kris's physical and mental state after this scene is unknown (and so is Noelle for that matter). Literally anything can happen at the start of CH7. Or during CH6 for that matter. Would any of you have seriously predicted that Susie would get canonically characterized as a self-centered bitch?
>>83664232We are completely different, self inserter-kun. Don’t play victim like the Desspedos.
Chapter 5 (normal) was good. The beginning was insufferably stale yurishit but I'm glad I muscled through, the meat of the chapter inside the darkworld was pretty great I'm given to understand that all of the kriselle stuff is in WR, but chapter 1 is as far as I'm going on that tonight. I bought a new copy for the sake of playing it on the big screen and did 3+4+5 in a single shot all today, my eyes are starting to feel fuzzy
>>83664001The Suselle stuff was filler because pride monthThe suicide pact was awful I wish we could romance Noelle without turning her into a psychopath The dark world had some fun partsFuck the secret boss that was shit
>>83664098Soulelle is legit just cope. Noelle is exclusively speaking to Kris in Chapter 5, it's not even a contest.
>>83663997It was always just Youelle using Kris as a proxy. 99% of the thread refuse to even refer to them correctly lmao
>>83664248At what point are you going to accept reality? What do you think "move on" means?
>>83664248I just, Im just so tired of being dissapointed. Ive been dissapointed before with other stuff like snk. Im just so tired
>>83664266I don't self insert. I don't understand the concept.
I THOUGHT IT WAS OVERI THOUGHT I WAS FREEBUT YOU HAD TO TELL US ABOUT NOELLE WISHING KRIS AND HER WINNING AS KING AND QUEENYOU HAD TO TELL US THAT KRIS ONLY SHOOK THE WHEEL TO COMFORT HERYOU HAD TO FUCKING SHOW ME NOELLE KNOWING THAT IF SHE STAYED WITH KRIS THEY WOULD BE DRAGGED UNDER AND HER DECIDING TO STAYYOU HAD TO SHOW US THEM GRIPPING EACH OTHER IN THE LAKE, HER SCREAMING KRIS'S NAMEI'M GOING CRAZYI HAVE FUCKING BUTTERFLIES IN MY STOMACHI AM THE NEXT SCHIZO BOSS BECAUSE THE FOX HAS TURNED MY BRAIN INTO. FUCKING. MUSH.DAMN YOU TOBYDAMN YOU!!!
>>83664279Dude, she explicitly said she wants the New Kris, which is (You). No matter what, Kris gets cucked.
>>83663997it would be for the best id make the effort to keep it supported
>>83664315I think you’re projecting.
>>83664332tricky tony claims another
>>83662987His game was burned in a inferno of jealousy
>>83664316It can mean a dozen different mutually exclusive things, just like "She Was / You Were Used Up" before (btw we can't be actually sure this was the scene it referred to). You're assigning a 100% probability to a 5-20% scenario because you're an idiot and still haven't learned from all the times Toby raped your and everyone else's totally 100% guaranteed predictions to death.
fuck you all i am just controlling kris to fix all his shitty problems
>>83664323Anon, the hard truth is that creators often miss the most interesting thrusts of their own workIf Toby was perfect in delivering on the best parts of Deltarune, there would be little if any need to congregate in spaces such as these and push our own personal narratives of what would be best. Where Toby fails, the community provides, and I will not, and you should not, be swayed by his misaligned prioritiesLuv me some nole
>>83664407well there is always the fanfictions and potential kriselle mods.Someone should start working on one
>>83664407Every imperfection makes things a little more interesting if you asked me.I think that's the beauty of it all when we can just serve ourselves when Toby could not do himself in other aspects.
>>83664390You mean their shitty problems
RESPECT THEIR PRONOUNS
>>83663997i'm gonna try my hand at making one in a bit. there's clearly a yearning from more than enough to have their own spaces so i think this will be healthier for everyone involved.
I think this chapter has proven without a doubt that if Noelle thought Kris was in a mentally unwell place she would hug them until they felt better
>>83664442yeah whatever dude shouldnt have let some weird ass heart demon control him
>>83664447>has no issues being referred to as the king or queen of the festival
>>83664451the last time this was attempted, it failed (dess thread)
>>83664380And you’re still sticking your head when the writing is clear to see. Suselle is good, and Kriselle is bad. Toby will intentionally make WR an unsatisfying and horrible route for everyone involved, just like Genocide, so he can spite people who genuinely ship Kriselle, and that’s been clear from the start. After all, remember what Spamton said.YOU THINK MAKING [Frozen Chicken] WITH YOUR [Side Chick] IS GONNA LET YOU DRINK UP THAT [Sweet, Sweet] [Freedom Sauce]?>WELL, YOU'RE [$!$!] RIGHT! BUT DON'T BLAME ME WHEN YOU'RE [Crying] IN A [Broken Home] WISHING YOU LET YOUR OLD PAL SPAMTON [Kill You]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyTBt44OalAGenuinely don't know what the hell to do at this point. Kriselle got me into this franchise and into making my own art in general. I wish we could go back.
>>83664483screenshot this post for later. We will see if anon is right
>>83664464It wasn't that quite, Noelle said they couldn't decide which of them should be King and which would be QueenNoelle would have voted herself as Queen naturally since she's always identified female, meaning Kris was also trying to get the Queen title since there would otherwise be no difference in their vote configuration
>>83664451>>83663997With all due respect, I don't think another general would be healthy just to split up over the latest chapter. Feels pointless over Kriselle being either the two or us self-inserting as Kris over the Weird Route. Plus, it might die out quickly but then again I could be wrong.
>>83664407Dude, he dropped the ball so hard that even the normies hate it. This isn’t an oopsie daisy, this is a big fuck up. People waited a year for this, and everyone was generally disappointed.
>>83664451The issue is being extremely exaggerated by bad actors. Plenty of people are fine with any kind of content that involves Noelle. That is, after all, the point of these threads. Remember? It costs you nothing to just ignore posts you dislike and post stuff that you like.
>>83664483Wow that's a really thoughtful and motivated critiqueHowever,
>>83664451Thank you. I think this would be for the best at this point.
>>83664502>wears both a nurse's outfit and a doctor's outfit
>>83664502Monarch of the Festival
>People want to split the thread again ignroing how it failed during the dess drama dayswell best of luck
>>83664517Tricky Tony can spike the ball into the ground as hard as he wants, it's not gonna stop me
>>83664476>>83664511>>83664527It’s worth a shot at this point. And it’s hard to ignore when a vast majority of the posts here are all Soulelle now.
>>83664502Yes, Toby is a tranny faggot. Are you going to tell me the sky is blue next?
>>83664579No, it fucking isn't. Splintering never works.
>>83664621It just doesnt, this community is too small for a splinter. And the soulelle people will refuse to leave
We had a good thing you stupid son of a bitch! We had Krusie, we had Kriselle.We had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork.You could have shut your mouth, wrote a story without retcon and made as much money as you ever needed.It was perfect...But no, you just had to blow it up!You... with your pride flags, and your ego...You just had to be that faggot!If you'd done your job, known your place, we'd all be fine right now.
>>83664579It won't work with Youelle either. No pun intended...
Not sure what else you guys were expecting desu
>>83664579Instead of poisoning the well with "good" intentions, why not stick your dick in a anthill instead, you disingenuous limp dicked kike?
>>83664642KralseiGODs and SuselleStacies are the confirmed endgame anon
>>83664652ehh i expected her to confess like during a fight or when susies injured or something not this early
>>83664621>>83664641>>83664651How do you know?
>>83664338We don't know how Soul and imposition of its will on Kris works. If it cannot impose anything that isn't already there at least partially, then the "new" Kris is actually a "repressed schizo" Kris that's been there all along.Of course >>83664279 can still be wrong - if Noelle does recognize that Soul!Kris is a different entity and the one she's grateful to, only keeps referring to it as Kris because she has no other name. It can also be wrong for reasons I've already described as long as Noelle herself bagatellizes Soul's influence on Kris.>>83664483This is currently the most likely option, but not guaranteed. Main counterpoint: the fact that WR still does exist and is unnecessarily sexually charged and (You)-centric despite Toby's latest "Gross" comment. Plausible deniability / irony so he can keep all the brownie points from leftists while working on WR in peace?For the record: I fully expect this route to be at least partially presented as "morally incorrect" and you won't get a happy ending, but there's a chance Toby will avoid "fuck you for playing you evil chud" preaching, and maybe even a repeat of UT Genocide.Actually, why the fuck am I even arguing with all you retards? It feels like 90% of fags here have sub90 IQ. Either that or are emotionally stunted manchildren who value owning others at all costs above at least trying to maintain some degree of rationality.
>>83664641I seriously don't understand why this is such a federal fucking issue. You guys are acting like children. God forbid you have to tolerate the presence of someone with whom you disagree on some completely fucking inconsequential topic like video game shipping. I'm floored.
>>83664663yeah no thanks ill keep walking down the weird route
>>83664661Why are you so upset? I’m just trying to propose a solution before things get worse here.
>>83664517I'm not really picking up what the issue is. Like I would've liked to see what's going on with the rest of the town after the festival but we got some interesting developments.The whole dynamic with Ralsei holding back, seemingly able to just neg any darkner. (Personally I'm getting an idea that he might be some sort of plant running through the town IE roots). The whole thing with Susie being taught game mechanics that we thought only the human could see.It's not just a nothing chapter.
>>83664682We already learned this lesson after drawfags started making Kress art.
>>83664672Because I was there during the past dess split attempt. It failed badly because the dess fags refused to leave.>>83664682I personally think the souelle people should stay.
>>83664678None of what you said is supported by Toby’s previous writing, or anything in game.
>>83664098"Souelle" implies a relationship between the SOUL and Noelle. There isn't one anymore. Now there is only Noelle and her desire for freedom, and she's perfectly willing to override the SOUL to get what she wants.
Kriselle thread:>>>83664667OP is going to be bare bones until we decide how to spruce it up.But also as a sign of good will I'll do my best to ensure /doe/ gets new threads when needed.I'll also likely try my hand and doing short green requests later to get some content rolling.Also do keep in mind this won't quite stop thread shitters for a bit, but be diligent in ignoring them and just making good posts and we'll be okay.
I could make an argument that WR is kriselle and not soulelle but I think the thread isn't currently in the best state for plot analysis so expect that post in a few days
>>83664672Did you forget the last time it happened over Dess? The split didn't really work out.
>>83664652Oldfag here, it genuinely reminds me of how back in the Zutards would argue til they were blue in the face that the constant Kataang flirting and being framed as a clear mutual romantic interest from literally the first episode was all just a misdirection, and the TRUE endgame of Avatar was going to be their self insert/hot bad boy because they'd built a fucking fortress of schizo headcanons and spent all day reinforcing eachother's delusions and ignoring what was actually happening on the screen lmao
>>83664682Soulellefags aren’t here in good faith, and they aren’t going to leave, so we should make a new place for us instead.
>>83664695Why are you a fake nigger? Just go stick your dick in the anthill, it won't hurt that much.Specially if you're lacking one.
>>83664725old /doe/ never minded discussing WR as a story, it's just the lewds and glorification of it wasn't favored by most
>>83664728This takes me back
>>83664660Here, have a red bull.
>>83664719We are not fucking splitting the goddamn general. Delete that thread now and think about what the fuck you're introducing to this place. Enough! You are acting like a goddamn CHILD over content that you don't like that is in the game. IGNORE IT.
>>83664746yeah I know, it's a release day so threads are hectic and stuff. things will calm down soon
cant we just be friends
>>83664800He tried this over Dess too. That tantrum is when the "& Kriselle" got added to the OP.
>>83664719>fracturing /doe/this place is so dead
>>83664824...with benefits
All I did was post some images. They were on topic, they featured Noelle. I like Noelle. I don't understand. I never said anything bad about Kriselle. Is my mere presence that bad? I didn't mean to do any of this...
>>83664719No.
>>83664831DOE NEVER DIES we have survived way worse
>>83664844Nobody is holding anything against you. Inevitably there ends up being conflict of interests, so it's healthier that specific topics stay separate from each other. Keep enjoying what you enjoy and posting what you enjoy
>>83664824You don’t get to pull that card anymore. This is supposed to be the Kriselle thread, but because you couldn’t have some common curtesy when we’re already having a bad day, this is what it’s come to. I tried to be polite before, but it’s clear that won’t work.
>>83664881But I post both things.
I'll bake to avoid any OP tamperinggive (your) editions plsbaking at mambo number 10
Kriselle lost btw
>>83664885I was the least rude member in these threads so far....tho?
The threadshitters are really having a go at this, eh? Shit i guess you gotta have a hobby but they should get some better ones, you can see this shtick coming a mile offAnyhoo, luv this doe
>>83664891Nun Noelle Edition
>>83664891Kisselle
>>83664891Hug edition
>>83664891Angel edition.
>>83664890And there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not casting judgement.
>>83664844You were kindly asked to follow the rules and stay on topic, same as anyone else here, but you decided not to. This is your fault. Stop trying to play innocent little victim.
>>83664891>>83663979Yandeer Edition
>>83664407>>83664891Gym edition
>>83664885>but because you couldn’t have some common curtesySnowgrave has been around for five years. You knew what the fuck to expect, you fake cunt. Fuck off.
>>83664928Ok, but what exactly IS the topic? I was under the impression that this place was home to pretty much all non-susie related Noelle rot. Maybe I'm just mistaken.
i'm genuinely so sad for noelle bros :(
>>83664939And most of us here don’t like it. That’s been the case for a while now. If you can’t handle the fact that we prefer more wholesome content over your weird toxic abuse fetish, I genuinely think you should look for another thread.
>>83664891Cuckbench Edition
jesus christ why cant you people learn to co-exist. THis same shitfling happened during the post chp4 dess yearswelp a few more months of massive shitflinging here we come
>>83664962Primarily Kriselle, like it says in the OP. Soulelle isn’t exactly on topic.
I'm pretty sure normal route kriselle always doomed from the start. I don't know what you guys are expecting when toby clearly want his ship even that mean making Susie characterization worse. Youelle and kriselle is so intertwined in the WR it practically the same thing. Noelle say it herself she hate being Noelle and happy Kris stop being Kris. Even when you try to stop her she tell Kris/us to being the old Kris and proceed anyway.
>>83665012Ask the Soulelle guys. They’re the ones who can’t seem to read the sign on the door when they magically came out of nowhere today.
>>83665020Not to gainsay you too much, but the structure of that sentence actually indicates that these threads are primarily home to doerot. Kriselle is appended with an and. I'm not sure that I agree with your interpretation.
>>83665044
>>83664978I'm a sucker for a lil edge in my Kriselle but if I see some shit I dislike, I'll just hide it or say something about it.
>>83665030I’m pretty sure I didn’t ask for your opinion. When did we ever care about canon, or listen when people told us that Kriselle is queer erasure and wrong, and the only way it would appear in canon would be abusive?
>>83665074Hiding 80% of the thread isn’t viable.
>>83665012it's like two massive autists that co-opt baking and try to dominate the discussion every time; they're unstable, mentally ill and hate everything that doesn't conform to what they want. meanwhile /sus/ can get away with talking about everything up to goddamn TADC content without anyone batting an eyei wish these autists would fucking die
>>83665100>most of US hate it!>No I can't just hide it that's most the thread!kill yourself.
>>83665052You sound incredibly pedantic and desperate. Doerot is synonymous with Kriselle. It’s why we primarily have Kriselle images in the OP, along with Kriselle stories, and a gallery that’s largely Kriselle. These threads have a clear topic we’ve had for years, and pretending we didn’t is silly.
>>83665129>i wish these autists would fucking dieme too, me too
>>83665129That’s a pretty lofty claim. You got anything to back that up?
>>83665100Only when it's done in bad-faith or it's meant to touch a nerve. But I don't do that constantly, because not everything is going to go through what I want.
>>83664728Look man, regardless of Kataang becoming the canon/obvious end-game ship, it was undeniable that Zuko and Katara had *much* better chemistry of which could have lead to a relationship with more depth than that between Aang and Katara. That's why people liked it back in the day, and the same logic applies here; Suselle is just a basic crush, whereas Kriselle has history that gives the relationship a much deeper flavor. The same could be said about Soulelle via the WR, to a lesser extent.The pith of the matter is that while Kataang and Suselle are the canon pairings, Zutara and Kriselle have consistent signals throughout their respective series of "maybe this will happen", with both of them having arguably better writing than the canon ships, which is what attracts people to them. And clearly enough people agree in both cases for both to have proper legs to stand on.
>>83665146If they're synonymous, then isn't the thread description redundant? I'm not certain that I follow. Here, have an image as recompense.
>>83665069
>>83665130It's like I said previously, he, and likely only he has a gigantic chip on his shoulder over Kress and Dess content being favored by drawfags and greentexters for an extended period of time last year, and now we're seeing him lashing out like an animal with perhaps one or two others just bumping his split out of spite or some equivalent mental deficiency. It's not something that can be reasoned with, I'm afraid. Just ignore it, continue making threads and ignore the release window tourists until things stabilize.
>>83665173NTA, but I'll I'm reading is hopes and dreams
>>83665184>piclmao. ok, that's good
>>83665173You can't make this shit up lmaoooo
>>83665166I literally saw I guy in /sus/ say he was spamming us earlier. I’m fairly certain that Soulelle and WRfags, since they seemed to pop out of nowhere, are largely posting in bad faith.
my goat (no not the faggot goat)
when the author intention is worse than his accident, than what does that say about the author
one, fuck suselletwo, i like yandoethree, the idea of noelle dragging kris into the water kinda turns me on :v
>it's the swap autist bumping the splitsasuga
Hopes and Dreams...
>>83665184I don’t know what to tell you, but I’m not that guy. I haven’t seen him appear even once today, and the same goes with the other Dess and Kressfags.
>>83665212
>>83665184There was a Kress wave and I missed it? I'm guessing when Moldesster got a small surge in popularity?Anybody have any good greens they're willing to share made in the past year or so? I wish the doebrary was still a thing.
>>83665240>I wish the doebrary was still a thing.The doebrary curator deliberately avoided pedophilic content, so you wouldn't find it there.
>>83665259Good thing there wasn't any to include!
>>83665240There was a healthy contingent of Kress posters just before the chapter released. People are posting weird route stuff because that's just what people are making art of right now. It'll probably return as things stabilize.
>>83665238>>83663610
People who ship fictional characters with anyone other than Literally Themselves are the equivalent of male feminists - pathetic self-sabotaging cucks worth every ridicule.
>>83665284I think this might be over for us. Before there was always an inkling of a chance that maybe Kris and Noelle could reconnect and reconcile, and realize how much they mean to each other, but that’s impossible now.
Amazing, the new chapter that killed NR!Kriselle hasn't even been out for 24 hours and we're already back at searching kressfags under the bed and splintering an already dying general.
>>83665297then why are you here dumbass?
>>83665129>meanwhile /sus/ can get away with talking about everything up to goddamn TADC content without anyone batting an eyesomeone is having an assfit there so...
>>83665291that anon said he posted 8 images and stopped....
>>83665240>>83665259>Did you ever hear the the tragedy of December the Molester?>I thought not. It's not a story the Doebrary would tell you.
>>83665309Have Susie and Noelle kissed yet? If not, then the contract isn't sealed. I have a feeling chapter 6 and whatever's happening to Rudy would eventually cause the split and maybe old feelings would reconcile. Copium, yes, but that's better than just running around screaming that we're doomed.
Everything in the new chapter was the worst possible for the thread. Remarkable.
>>83665328You're not hiding any Kressfags under ze floorboards are you, Herr Anon? Das ist verboten, you know...
>>83665382Keep on dreamin', anon!Themes and such.
>>83665309I just post images I like. It doesn't really bother me if the scenarios depicted in them are not and never will be canon. Getting all worked up over whether or not some little cartoon characters get together is a little... outside of my wheelhouse. I may simply be too pragmatic a person to enjoy passionate feelings about such inconsequential things - no offense, sincerely.
>>83665385The general's in a frenzy because the new chapter hasn't been out even for a day yet. Give it at least three days for hotheads to calm down and for copium to settle in.
We need to go back to posting Dess x Kris fics. So this thread will heal.
>>83665382Anon, this isn’t healthy. You could watch them literally have sex, and you’d still be in corner saying there’s a chance Kriselle could happen because they haven’t had a wedding or any kids yet.
>>83665382yes I think all the "they deserve to win" is probably building up to somethingmaybe kriselle reconciliation maybe krusielle who knowsi honestly ate good this chapter
>>83665414Let him overdose.
There's still a chance Dess touched Kris. There's still hope
>>83665431Kress is a meme, but I love it anyway.
Kris and Ralsei have canonically bathed together and seen eachother's dicks. Have Kris and Noelle seen eachother's dicks? Didn't think so.
>>83665411I love the pics of dess hugging Kris those are adorable
>>83665410I mean objectively>suselle confirmed >no canon dess to soothe old tensions>dessriel strongly implied>/sus/ in even worse shambles, spilling over now
>>83665309It is what it is, I can always self indulge myself by drawing and posting what I like. If I get myself too worked up over something like this, I'd never catch my breath...
>>83665411I'll maintain my efforts where possible, but I've been very busy lately.
>>83665411That’s strange. All the Soulelle posters nearly disappeared, and you all come back at the same time.
Please be a backlash. Please be a backlash.
>>83665450I've seen people cope on /v/ that the prophecy is forcing them to date. Because love MUST find the girl.It's sad and pathetic.
>>83665431Clearly not after that letter. Just another unrequited crush.
>>83665411AlasI love Dess.
>>83665431If any part of Dess' unclothed body brushed any of Kris' bare skin, would he cum instantly? Yes or Yes?
>>83665482A backlash isnt going to make your ship canon, anon.
>>83665439I have to ask where do you find those fanart? All I did is put #kriselle on twitter
>>83665382Personally I never had any faith that Toby would make Kriselle Canon or even part of the main route (which, lol, lmao). It veers too close to straight to satisfy the fans and staff he attracted by including the stale whitebread lesbian romance in the first chaptersBut I also dont care because he accidentally spilled chemical kino into the mix, even if he does his absolute best to cover it up at every possible turnAs usual, my personal taste is better than literally anything made by anyone
>>83665431People like you make me embaressed to even like the pairing.
>>83665451I know you’re trying to play cool, and act like it doesn’t bother you, but I know it does. It’s okay to vent here.
>>83665505True but I don't think that's what that anon was aiming for
>>83665479I'm still here, I'm just being diplomatic because of your melty. Also waiting for new images. I don't intend to just spam the threads with the same images forever, I do prefer to post new stuff.
>>83665525I'm curious to what he's aiming for. To end the game?
>>83665505The damage can't be undone but more damage can be dealt back in retaliation. I just want to see some fucking justice, man.
>>83665543Probably just to let toby know that he's a shit writer
>>83665553That isn't justice, you just want to the annoying dog burn.
>>83665528But you were before. Why stop? This your place now.
>>83665560Noelle why you doing blackface that not cool
I love Noelle even when she is at her worst.
Is that anon still going to make the new thread? If not I can still bake.I think it would be best to remove the "& Kriselle" part of the OP for now and add it back if the other general ends up dying. If not, I'll keep it in the new one. It's not worth fighting over.
If I had a nickel for every time straightoids had an emotional meltdown over their hetslop ship being hard deconfirmed and one half of it being confirmed queer this month, I would have two nickels
>>83665586None of this is worth fighting over.
As a deltagooner, I feel like the main cast being "ethical goons" are about as ambiguous as Kris's gender. Both were designed to be up in the air so anyone would insert their own feelings or beliefs onto them, but the vocal majority of annoying deltarune fans will draw and quarter you for not calling Kris "they" or drawing Noelle butt booty naked because they have their belief that they spread loudly online to where everyone starts dogpiling you for having a differing outlook
>>83665518I'm fine anon. Really...
>>83665561What is justice that isn't catharsis from revenge? I took a fucking day off and got greeted with this turd of a chapter. It legitimately made me puke. Couldn't even sleep the whole night as my usual sleeping aid of thinking of kriselle cuddles stopped working. Monitored the threads instead, and now I'm still doing that at work. Legitimately feeling raped.
>>83665588do people actually watch this shit? all i know from this is from porn
>>83665597Why? You won. Why would you care after that point?
>>83665556NTA, but to the contrary: toby is a good writer with bad priorities Suselle is paste. Its homogenous gruel. It may have qualified as scandalous and interesting back in the heady days of 2010, but the mere fact that its 2 girls is doing absolutely nothing for meKriselle is under-served genius. It is everything a good romance in this kind of story should be, it is angsty and tangled up in old secrets and unspoken feelings, it's tender and yearning and has a serious bite to it; it's barely subtext, especially within the weird routeBut he'd rather big up the boring lesbians
>>83665586baking at 10don't mess with op pls
>>83665636You got it, boss
>>83665633Like cuckoldry, Kriselle is the thinking man's fetish.
>>83665633Yep I know that he always fucks shit up with his stupid fetish
>>83665614Imagine consuming TADC only through porn then noticing a sudden flood of Trans Jax porn
>>83665607I’m not. And I know you aren’t either. Let it out.
>>83665633Toby is not a good writer. Only thing he’s really good at is being a composer, and even that feels like he’s losing his spark.
>>83665636I would NEVER.
>>83665674I dont like sounding like a dickhead when I say this, but I think Toby is just recycling motifs on his songs a bit more often most of the time. That's just me though.
>>83665697I think he is too, and he’s been doing it for a while, but it’s getting worse now. I don’t know if it’s because of his broken wrists, or because he’s letting his team do the work for him, but it feels like there’s a noticeable shift in quality now.
>>83665662It was something of a surprise. I never watched a single episode. I just thought the jester and the doll were hot.
>>83665737Yeah, it just winds up sounding the same or just a rehash of one of his existing songs. It was kinda charming at first since it does save time, but now I think he's not really feeling it as before.
Ferris wheel has to account for something. Please.
Is the game fully explored yet? There has to be some secrets somewhere
>>83665809i'm thinking the same thing, there's probably more hidden triggers in the festival
>>83665809the lake turns out to be made of urine
>>83665832>you either piss in the sink or sink in the piss, noelle
>>83665826No suselle skip triggers. Enjoy your snowrape lake drowning.
>>83665826There has to be all the previous chapters have them just gonna wait for someone to find them
>>83665826there is actually, if you give tenna to mettaton on festival day the noelle dialogue implies she was the girl kris played with queen tenna and king
>>83665854one man's trash is another man's treasure
>>83665826data miners will find them all by the end of the week
So uuuuh.... that new chapter, huh?
>>83665919Yep it's err something I guess
>>83665854>enjoy your delicious steak and buttery lobster I will? Thanks?
>>83665919Loved the weird part.
Even if kriselle happens, Noelle is used goods. How does that make you feel?
>>83665919your late to the party the new wave of weird route art is going to go hard
