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goodnight sus

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I will fuck Seth (who is a boy)(f)
I will fuck the tricky fox

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>people honestly looked at BullDyketron 9000 here, evolutionarily perfected for munching carpet, and thought she wouldn't get with the girl that's been humping her leg for 4 chapters

>>83662856
MEGA BASED

>>83662855
Feel more like what to expect is Kris just not showing up because CH7 is going to start the deadline for the plan and Noelle being in means things will go wrong because she wasn't his intended choice.

Well that or Weird route leaks into the normal and 7B is actually a prologue of how Noelle on the other side starting the roaring on the normal end and is trying to merge all routes into the one she thinks is best as a pusedo god who has to fight herself

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>>83662849
Goodnight anon. Really wish I could sleep myself right now.

so what outfit did you guys choose?

>>83662977
I can't but I have to, I wake up at 6am for my job

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so..... what now?

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>>83660288
If Toby legit pushes trans girl Ralsei as the justification for why he isn't actually the "prince from the dark", I may actually start drinking.

>>83663012
Prepare for the wait for Chapter 6 and digest Chapter 5 once things calm down like we did with 3/4.

>>83663009
Damn. You at least got time to play through the chapter today right?

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>>83662849
Good night anon, I'm expecting you to get this place back in order in the morning as I'm tired of miserable incel land where now susie's garbage and was ever Kris's friend because now she chose to for just 1 day dedicate time to getting to know Noelle and pretending this wasn't gonna happen for the festival.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-8abSPAPOU

>>83663048
partly, I'm the one who's been posting from work all day I just bit the spoiler bullet

>>83663045
You're going to keep getting cuckposts.

>>83663072
Bro you can't do that to yourself unless you're looking for help on the secrets

>>83663028
>Susie is full-on living in Castle Town now, aka the Dark
>the dress-up segment confirmed she's a "princely" type girl (yuri trope)

>big triumphant moment where Ralsei thinks becoming a princess will avert the Prophecy
>the merely trade places
>Susie is the Prince alone in deepest dark
>Ralsei is the girl, the girl
>fanfare dies and the lights dim
>there is no escape

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>>83663072
>Getting spoiled to keep the thread alive
Champion.

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>>83663063
>she chose to for just 1 day dedicate time to getting to know Noelle and pretending this wasn't gonna happen for the festival.

they dated and are a couple, you are describing the events of the game itself

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>>83663083
Not by friday, the true /sus/ usuals will remain

>>83663063
I vaguely remember some weens pulling similar shit with Susie post chapter 4 come to think of it.

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>>83663094
I've been in these threads for 8 years, I am not going to give up until the end.

>>83663124
only this time they actually played the game lmao

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>>83663028
>There is a significantly higher than zero percent chance than I get TADCed again
I HATE MODERN WRITERS
I HATE MODERN WRITERS
I HATE MODERN WRITERS

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>>83663112

>>83663103
They aren't a couple yet, she's as close to Noelle as she is to Kris now as she even invites her to Moss eating, she's been giving Noelle an equalizer treatment since she's already fairly in tune with Kris and they've bonded over the last serval days

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>/doe/ drawfags already betraying them in /utg/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>83663178
and what relevance does this have here?

>>83663139
I mean let's be real they're just reposting images they ripped from threads like last time lmao

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>>83663112
>>83663136
My based detector is going off the charts. I can only hope the shitposters and youellefags will filter out of /doe/ soon too.

I don't feel so good /sus/

>>83663136
Same, but I'm going to hate the wait for 6. Some distractions to fast-travel to the next chapter would be nice.

>>83663028
>>83663146
Anon, calm down for a sec. Relax.
You're probably also getting transfem Kris!

>>83663112
>more Dykeslop

>>83663267
Kris can't transfem anon, Kris is already a girl to begin with. Yes, I asked Toby last week

>>83663234
Me neither, Anon. Me neither.

>>83663286
Jelly loves his force throuple garbage and will draw plenty of it (ignoring that Kris was canonically forgotten by both of them and third wheeled)

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>>83663294
Asgore's willing to lynch whoever disappeared Dess. Kind of based ngl.

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Fuck it. I guess I should actually play this shit and get it over with.
>>83663267
Toby made him a they despite how boyish he is presented so if he does that I can just pretend that he was always a boyish girl.

>>83663294
Was this the most fucked up thing he's said yet?

>No attention for literally 1 day in the game so Susie can hang out with someone else
>She treats em the almost same as Kris
>"They've abandoned Kris"

>>83663321
Asgore has always been a chad, but sans people poised the fuck out of his perception.

>>83663294
>chapter 4: I'm gonna prove myself right!
>chapter 5: I'm gonna kill a dude!

it was all because she wanted noelle...?

>>83663294
>Kris fucking pissing themself when he said that
That was funny

>>83663326
You mean based, right?

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>>83663376
yes, only reason susie was bully kris because she thought those two were dateing.

if I was in kris spot, I would have crash the fuck out man.

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>>83663341
My main problem with the romance this chapter was how often it was brought up randomly, but I think that's just the artifact of the game's pacing. It's just one chapter, but one chapter is like the whole world with how long we have to wait between them.

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>>83663341
Dude.

>>83663436
>if I was in kris spot, I would have crash the fuck out man.
You could argue Kris is in the middle of one big convoluted crash out with a dead reindeer and possible other conspirators.

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>>83663376
Yes.

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>>83663325
>oby made him a they despite how boyish
Use the Susie test anon, if you start calling Susie a they/them and give baggier clothes, how masculine does she actually became? The answer is very as she's only a few steps from being one of the guys.

Kris is the same, dresses ambiguous and has no noticeable assets. One dress and Kris could be a woman, one Pair of boxers and Kris could be a manly man

>>83663492
You’re ignoring vital context. Kris is obviously based on Toby, who actually got his heart broken by a lesbian in real life.

>>83663443
Yeah no, that's always a toby issue. It was back in chapter 1 too but people liked Kris and Susie's dynamic so it went fairly ignored how it took 1 team up for them to be buddies despite a school year of bulling and threats to eat Kris's face. 1 adventure and the most people complained for was her never saying sorry especially after the sweepstakes thing. Toby sucks at writing romance, this was always to be the case. Yes you could say he wrote Krusie but to him that's like how he is with temmie and have you seen either of them fucking yet? No.
>>83663446
Kris got this before too bro

>>83662794
Wellness check. I just finished Chapter 5.
How are you SusieBros holding up?

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>>83663461
>You could argue Kris is in the middle of one big convoluted crash out with a dead reindeer and possible other conspirators.

I am not ready for ch.6 and ch.7

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I fucking HATE lesbians.

>>83663560
You just reposted this question from /doe/

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>>83663325
I have barely left the house and there are already a couple allusions to Kris ans Susie with Kris being frustrated that the sexy purple dragon from the coloring book didn't become a darkner and the stuff Toriel says. I think the intent was at least sort of to annoy Krusie shippers. Too early for me to decide if it is out of spite or not though.

I like the idea of trans Ralsei

>>83663543
Show me where Susie agreed to start dating Kris.

>>83663462
That's what I hate about this
Susie didn't dislike and pick on Kris because he had a loving family and people who were accepting of him despite flaws in the community and from her perspective he was dismissive of it all not fully understanding what was going on behind closed doors
It's now been reduced to "I bullied you because I wanted my pussy getting licked"

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>>83663533
Kris sure as hell ain't Toby, have you seen him? Kris may have some aspects of Toby but almost every character does if you look through the roster. Toby is ironically a bit cooler than Kris in many ways and and projecting the whole lesbian heart break thing feels more like grasping at straws to try and make things feel like a matter of guilt on a guy who has very little shame since he was smart enough to keep to himself.

>>83663560
Eh, Chapter 5 was disappoint overall even outside shipping-related issues so my mood's a little low. What kills me really is knowing I have to wait for another chapter to resolve these feelings. Fuck this slow-drip model.

I'll be fine. It hasn't even been 24hrs yet.

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>>83663560
Mostly been laughing so I don't cry.
I was so mixed up earlier I posted my shitpost contingency folder in /doe/ by mistake.

>>83663604
I think Sweet Cap'n KK or whatever that was bitching about making music for Clover was an outlet for Toby

>>83663560
im going to make a nun outfit on a porn tasque manager model to punish toby for his sins

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>>83663604
>Toby is ironically a bit cooler than Kris in many ways
I think it's just Toby selling himself short. Toby is likely fine in acknowledging his music skills tho as Kris is described as being solely the best musician in his band.

>>83663599
There was no agreement to dating bud, just an I like you and blush, something which Kris has had plenty of over 3-4

>>83663604
>yuritard is cooler
Nice try, Epstein.

>>83663593
>I have barely left the house and there are already a couple allusions to Kris ans Susie with Kris being frustrated that the sexy purple dragon from the coloring book didn't become a darkner
Can I get ta screencap?

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>>83663622
>Toby bitching about the bitches in his fandom being demanding
Makes you think

>>83663610
your what?

>>83663577
Lurker...
>>83663585
Live on
>>83663608
I liked it
>>83663610
Feels bad
>>83663625
Based anon

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>>83663649
I had a bunch of images I was saving for "when it happens."
My heart wasn't in it so I gave up after about eight or so.

>>83663631
Are you playing stupid now?

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>>83663673
>I liked it
I enjoyed it, too. I actually really liked the flower darkners a lot and Asgore's arc was satisfying despite initial worries. And this is among other things.

I just think it's a weaker chapter compared to previous ones, but not every chapter can be chapter 4 too.

>>83663685
Why contribute to the thread shitting? It just makes it worse for the people remaining sincere about Kriselle and Krusie.

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Any of you who are really disappointed should take up writing.
Don't just make a Reltadune or whatever, do your own thing.

>>83663685
are you admitting that you tried shitposting in /doe/?

>>83663628
Toby has a lot more pride than you may realize, part of it came from his years with Andrew due to how outlandish and weird Andrew was. When you're the guy known first for living in that guy's basement and then moving to the guy who made UT and even got your stuff referenced in basically everything to the degree your project and world is unironically gonna out last you you've got plenty of pride to stand on but also know to keep your head down. He still doesn't even reject those roots despite how the original HS is.

The fact he still talks to andrew, does funny Dances for Temmie, and somehow now still never rejects much if any of his past, we remember the eat shit faggots being referenced, the guy has a lot more backbone than anyone may give credit. He even kissed andrew and that picture is still out there online. He has very little shame when you look deep into him, his self esteem is massive

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>>83663718
All said and done exercising your creative outlets is good for the mind and soul.

>>83663699
Understandable, I like reading opinions.
Just finished, so I'm still thinking about it.

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>>83663560
>CH.5
>lot of gay shit
>some cool stuff in it, like Asgore actually being scary.
>the knight killing the flower anime boy was cool
>I did like the new enemies in it, one of them being seth
>and ch.5 weird route...
>HOLY SHIT

I didn't think toby would go that far in ch.5 weird route.

I will give it a 6 out of 10, I like ch.3 and 4 way more.

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I genuinely wish there were a better place everyone could post until all the nonsense blows over. I just wanna talk about the game and ships dude

>>83663628
>>83663742
>>83663768
Susie prefers Noelle.

>>83663742
I think I agree, but I don't know how far Toby would be comfortable pushing Kris being his self-insert. It's pretty obvious so far that Kris is, but I do wonder if that's something he wants to temper too. There's self-esteem and then there's playing Icarus with your own passion project.

>>83663742
Being a faggot shows you have very little self esteem, moron.

>>83663699
Chapter 3-4 were longer in dev than 5 so it's not hard to say this is almost like 2 but with less of the mystique since were basically approaching the end and such a long chapter kinda spoils what to expect when he says those chapters really were an exception in length

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>>83663712
Would you believe me if I said that's why I didn't get very far?

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She's even doing the "Fucked behind the door" NTR pose...

>>83663807
Keep in mind 3-5 were supposed to be a trio

>>83663742
>>83663804
Sorry it's getting late and I don't think I read your comment properly. I agree with some of your points tho.

>>83663788
I love Noelle's yandere face so much.
Also the Flower Dark World was cool.

>>83663804
Asriel is also, in part, Toby's self insert.
Both running cross country, both being New-England twinks making gay little JRPGs.

>>83663796
prophecy mind rape isn't "love"

>>83663840
>New-England twinks
You won't be saying that when he fucks Temmie in like a year or two, he's not a mega fag like Asriel

>>83663821
So you admitted to threadshitting the other general, yet you're over here behaving like a regular poster?

>>83663861
Somehow I have the feeling that Tricky Tony bagging Temmie would make up for a lot of his mistakes.

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>>83663837
>yandere
I feel it's more like elation of jubilation sorta, it reminds me of how Gantz was drawn sometimes

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>>83663821
Yes, I would because admitting that proves you know better. Please consider just posting sincerely if you can. And by sincere I mean at least being down to earth with your stances even if they aren't favorable. Mature criticism is still good discussion.

Just keep it in your mind that a lot of anons have love the characters and just want to express that, and seeing you express that would still be a welcoming sight.

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I think the chapter was meh
https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVz593n3

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You think Susie, Kris, Noelle, Berdly, and Catti could handle Gantz?

>>83663890
That's a better word, I didn't know what to say.

>>83663897
That seems to be the general consensus in the fandom. Fun at best but overall meh compared to Tony's previous works.

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/doe/ is beginning to lose it for me.

>>83663788
More like a 3 out of 10. The WR stuff was actually boring this time around. It still hasn’t hit the highs of Genocide after all this time.

>>83663941
How so?

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>>83663870
>>83663891

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>>83663972
WAGMI anon. I believe in you.

>>83663897
The story was pretty good with the Dark World side and Asgore, the SOL portion is more or less an if you hated or were indifferent to Suselle situation as that affects weather it being a major focus hurts or affects the experience at all for you
>>83663965
i mean Kriselle was now deemed a full on bad thing no matter how you look into it since that route was the only times they got to have Kris and Noelle doing things before now but now that path straight up diverts entirely from any form of deniability meaning now it's entirely snowgrave exclusive

>>83663600
This. Every line from Chapter 5 just makes the cast bidimensional, it’s like theyre caricatures of themselves

>>83663965
It’s a Youelle General now.

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>>83663987
Yeah! Be buddies with the guy who admitted to shitting up the other general but not this one! Yeah, not biased at all!

>>83663146
What happened there?

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>>83663930
Its cruel how we went from a lore heavy chapter with top tier soundtrack and final boss with the schizo boss being cool, relevant to the plot, great OST to basically filler till the end part that Kris is responsible for and a tranny mew mew gimmick fight with ear rape vtuber ass music
>>83664003
The festival part was lame, I don’t care about the carpet muncher I am more interested in the cosmic horror, Dess mystery, if Rudy died and main plot

>>83663600
Well no, it's because of ALL of those things not just one or two, each one is a part of why she did it, the only ones reducing it would be you since you're now just pretending the rest was a lie and irrelevant when that just isn't the case

>>83664020
I posted eight images and no one noticed, anon. Good night.

>>83664037
The show's deuteragonist is dead and trans.

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>>83663965
I'm beginning to grow rather jaded of the discrepancy between generals. It's something I've noticed for a while but after today and seeing a total lack of much considerate discussion in comparison to this place, I'm left feeling aimless. I think I'm very jealous and I don't know how to settle those feelings knowing my home general feels like a cesspit compared to this time last year.

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>>83664037
the TADC ending, while initially ambiguous, has jax outed as trans(either the digital one or real one, they don't specify) as the rest of the cast then confirmed he was trans but at the same time it really didn't matter since he was also dead by then so at the end of the day the reveal felt like while they should have just left it alone as a whatever you interpret thing they now hard lock it to something that ultimately doesn't matter. Well outside of that Pomni also got confirmed as probably gay since they say she'd have made it with the frog and in the episode she and ragatha were getting a bit too friendly for a scene

>>83664042
>The festival part was lame
Shipping aside I found it pretty anti-climatic.

>>83664096
Yeah, I can relate to that. Hadn't felt the same the last time I checked.

>>83664116
Fuck that, I'm glad there was no ambiguity.
I don't want you losers debating that

>>83664096
>look over
>people genuinely questioning some shitposter labelling the place a (You)elle general as if they're going to get an honest response from it

Grim.

>>83664120
I man what was there to really expect, it was in the light world and since the fountain doesn't open in its center the Dark World is pretty much still just one of those that happened but still nobody knows so the outer world stakes remain as nothing's gonna happen for at least 1 more chapter while the rest of it was spent on Noelle and Susie getting to fully know each other. You could easily just separate it to side content and not much changes since Kris doesn't get to do tons during the actual story heavy parts since its between them

>>83664096
Cry about it, Snowcoomer.

>>83664043
Then the game does a terrible job of implying it's all those things instead of it being one thing
The idea of her bullying kris because of what he had and she didn't isn't new as it came from last year with her explaining her story about the piano

>>83663146
>>83664116
>>83664140
>>>/co/

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Did she learn nothing from Gerson?

>>83664116
i still love how goose didn't have the balls to actually put Tranny jax in series and had to trans him in a post after kek

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there is a part of me realize that this could have happen if the knight didn't show up.

>>83664140
Well the ambiguity was mainly cause it literally doesn't matter but people still wanna make it out like its a big deal even if Jax never actually transitions at any point and even the real world one still carries the same male name so he just kinda looks gay or feminine with his irl actor and nothing more. Much of his story was just about his parents fucking up his self esteem over not being masculine enough and then booking it after pushing his mom.
>>83664185
I feel like it the actors said nothing Goose would have kept quite since it doesn't matter

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>>83663634
I am in the darkner town (By the way the whole focus there is about Susie going on a date with Noelle. We were fed crumbs at the start but I think that is about all we are getting for now) now and I am not going back.
Basically it says something like:
>You examine the cover with the inappropriately dressed purple dragon
>Despite a fountain opening in your house this never became a darkner...
>You decide to ponder this fact...
>>83663699
I imagine I will have a lot of fun when I get to the fountain area.

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>>83664003
>i mean Kriselle was now deemed a full on bad thing no matter how you look into it
I don't think that's a fair comparison when you consider how much Kriselle content we got from the festival. If it was truly shut down then Noelle wouldn't have been an option there at all. The game wasn't even necessarily painting it in a bad light either when you do it. If anything there was cathartic for Noelle in the Ferris Wheel.

>>83664020
Forgiveness is a major theme of the game, I don't want to be insincere and not offer that chance to someone else who made a rash decision yet recognized it afterwards. We're all emotional creatures at the end of the day, if someone shows a sign of growth you should allow and encourage it, at the end of the day nobody is perfect, and we all make mistakes.

>>83664096
>>83664129
I understand. I was and somewhat still am mainly a /doe/ poster, but I spent more time discussing here since there's just less going on and I feel like I can make more of a difference. I've really felt like you have for about a year at this point.
Call me out on this if you think it's the wrong choice, but I do think splitting from /doe/ and making a new general would mend some issues, or at least act as a temporary solution until things calm down. I really want nothing more than to have comfy /doe/ posting like we used to.

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I thought it was sad that Susie ask Kris to walk her "home" to a school storage closet. The shattered prophecy really is closing the Grand Dark Fountain, huh?

>>83664168
Not really, each of these has been addressed in separate chapters and she talks about each on their own as well as gets a different view on the complaint during each chapter. This chapter was about moment was about Noelle so it focused on that part of her jealousy like other chapters bring up as if you remove these lines not much changes because her jealously blanketed each and this one specifies one of the many deeper parts to that jealousy. This was her being even more honest since while the jealously is one thing it's another to involve Noelle since technically tons of people had what Kris does in home town and Susie doesn't bug them as much, it also connects to the through line with just how much Susie never got to know Noelle and why she's was cautious about her especially back when asking what Kris was to her

>>83664223
I just don't want to hear people debate about it.
I feel the same way about Kris' pronouns

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>>83664116
>>83664037
Btw the shows creator who is a troon with a drilling peoples heads in fetish drew this

>>83664312
Jax just needed sex badly

>>83664271
It's likely that it means giving up all of it or even resetting if you look at how highly Noelle views the power of the soul as capable of telling her to do something and she's just be able to make it happen like growing wings or otherwise, at the end of the day bringing back the dead isn't possible so the easier solution is to just go back and prevent it in the first place but that means changing the present and all the things she likes now.

>>83664312
>drilling peoples heads in fetish
what did you mean by this

>>83664312
I'm looking forward to seeing people finally realize the flaws of TADC once the dust settles.

>>83664330
he fumbled the frog with like 0 competition and no stakes, he was dying a virgin no matter what

>>83664359
I mean people were pointing it out months ago when people realized there's two episodes left and only two characters got development
Goose had a bit of a crash out on twitter

>TADC trannies infesting this general

FUCK OFF ALREADY

>>83664335
Maybe, I jut really underestimated how much Susie loved the Dark World. She's sleeping overnight in an empty school .

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>>83664249
I think you’re delusional.

>>83664361
Jax fumbling made me hate him more then the bullying.

>>83664396
Oh god Noelle's one of THOSE people

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>>83664444
A betrayer. But that's just fitting for Susie, a bitch who keeps secrets.

you guys might just need to start working on /sus/game after this one fucking hell

>>83664516
So just gonna pretend Kris isn't the same as them? Maybe even worse given Kris is with the villains currently

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>>83664396
Honestly I read that differently - Noelle saying she wanted to learn piano too in that context means she wants to hear Kris play again, and getting no response from Kris is why she sighs.

Kris would be in a much better spot if they affirmed either Susie or Noelle's emotions more readily.

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>>83664601
Dude. Put down the copium. We all lost.

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>>83664348
I mean…
>>83664359
I thought it was kinda meh and dropped it on ep3 till ep8 came out
Space King won

>>83664601
hard reach

>>83664636
When's the next Space King episode honestly

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>>83664396
>>83664444
Haven't gotten to this bit yet but Noelle comes across as pretty unpleasant in a lot of little interactions with Susie. If I thought Toby would ever make a lesbian romance toxic on purpose I would absolutely think he was trying to plant the seeds for that sort of thing.

>>83664697
I wouldn't say unpleasant here, more needy. IT feel like before where it comes off less as malicious and more like Noelle wants Susie to see her more directly and to not only think of her or in relation to Kris so she's trying to seem or be good at anything she thinks Susie would like. Changing herself or doing what it takes to impress Susie if it means Susie looks more clearly at her

>>83664096
>>83664129
there's an attempt at a new place for kriselle discussion if it interests you:
>>83664667

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>>83664784
The last thing that I wanted to see today was my general getting split. I'm gonna neck myself.

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>>83664737
Aggressively absorbing your crushes best friend's interests to make them about yourself sounds extremely unpleasant to me. It is just a gross and manipulative thing to do.

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OK so, to me. kris will most likely be the badguy in ch.6 since susie (at some point) going to find out that kris is the one who is making the dark fountains and working with the knight.

which more of am thinking of it, there been theorys of Kris will lose his arm. do you think it will be susie cutting off his arm out of anger or the knight?...

>>83664832
He will lose his cock to complete his misery.

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>>83664784
>/doe/ tearing itself apart because their autists can't ignore snowgravefags
>at least one artist moved on to suselle already
>this isn't even the first time its happened

i'm gonna redirect all my effort here until that situation improves because it is demoralizing in the worst kind of way

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So uhhh turns out something was wrong with my Weird Route save, and I think it auto-aborted. Probably because I had some recruits in my town, including ones from the cyberworld. Which means I need to replay chapters 2 through 4.
Fuck me, I just wanted to let Queen be happy for a few more days but nooooooo. What a shitshow.

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Shit’s bleak idk if this place will ever recover, but I have some small hope for the future. At least the consensus seems to be that ch5 was a flop

To a better tomorrow /sus/

Wishing you guys a better tomorrow.

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>>83664832
At the very least Kris has a good reason to go evil now, one could say it's the most classic of reasons. Girls

>>83664994
Cucked beyond belief

>>83664673
Two more weeks

>>83664994
noelle needs to go

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>>83664850
>soul (YOU) had to keep reseting the vs susie fight 2.0
>because susie found out that kris is working for the knight and decided hit it where it where it hurt the most
>his dick
>(YOU) had to get a no-hit and take down susie to keep kris dick safe

I will keep kris save, I will make him happy, NO MATTER WHAT!

>>83664825
It's less about her more about doing whatever sounds good to Susie, she's not tricking Susie or inherently lying either because she says she'll learn it not that she's good at it or could do it, more she'll do it because Susie's liked it. Manipulative doesn't really cover that and neither does absorbing interest, rather she's doing whatever Susie likes even if she sucks at it or knows nothing with the intent to learn if it means making Susie happier. Neglecting her own interest and everything between if it means being an ideal person in Susie's eyes since Noelle, especially in omission during the weird route, isn't looking at herself as much and even doesn't believe she can make any real or massive changes to herself hence why she's doing everything else so that she can be good enough for Susie in her own eyes. Pushing herself to be what someone else likes because it's what she thinks will be best.

>>83664161
I guess I was expecting something more... I dunno, more meaty. Outside of Noelle/Susie we don't really explore the lightners too much unless they're in the darkworld but I suppose it's fair if Toby wants the game to mostly focus on that. The festival was mostly just any other chapter but with a festive skin.

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Requesting a yabba dabba doo kris/soul meme

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Me

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Pretty unexpected showing, to be honest.

>>83665137
That's Kris

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>>83664116
Despite everything I'm curious about giving TADC a look. There's a certain security in something that's finished.

>>83664636
It's a fucked up fetish but it gets points for uniqueness I guess.

>>83664952
>At least the consensus seems to be that ch5 was a flop
I had fun with 5 but it being kind of mid doesn't help. I remember Chapter 3/4 having the same degree of dooming but we bounced back super hard too.
IMO, I'm feeling a lot better now after the dust has settled more. Good luck to you and the rest of you anons.

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>>83664949
Shit, I forgot to double check if I got all the recruits too. I must have, but I didn't check.

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haven't been in here or /doe/ for a few days now.
so... how you guys taking the news?

>>83664892
>pic
The only good flower
Seth was funny too I guess but only because he was constantly playing straightman for Aqua

>>83664994
i feel so bad for him

>>83665140
The knight showing up at the last second felt like one of those cartoons where the villain always has an escape rocket or helicopter to foil the heroes having a total victory.

>>83665172
>>83664636
Genuinely fuck off. Fuck. Off.

>>83664949
Same boat here. My ch4 save wasnt full and i missed some paci stuff

>>83664952
For a year it turned out great. At least it wasnt 3 or 4 years like the gap after 2.
LW stuff is fucky, but the DW was solid. The feather mechanic was cool and I liked the flowers. The music and callbacks worked for me as well.

Only did flawed pacifist so far, 7/10
Gonna do WR this week

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WHERE WAS THE INFERNO OF JEALOUSY TOBY????
RALSEI USED A FIRE SPELL ONCE AND YOU CALL THAT AN INFERNO??????

>>83665172
Goosewerx decided Jax was a tranny

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>>83665172
TADC was, imo, alright. The final episode doesn't exactly do tons and it's ending 'twist' for me was really predictable but beyond that most of the questions that were more important go unanswered and pacing/presentation was off a bit leading to initial confusion especially from people who saw it in theaters. As other people tend to say there are only 2 characters who the show honestly dedicates more than 1 episode to to develop. The investment isn't major and in some ways since it isn't being a during watcher maybe it's a better experience
>>83665231
I think it was more around Susie and weird route Noelle. Both show great envy toward Kris's posistion
>>83665236
Bringing it up doesn't really matter given it doesn't happen in the actual episodes

>>83665246
Why are you polluting this thread with your presence?

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>>83665190
I wouldn't say I was happy but I'm feeling pretty alright atm. Kris and Noelle's relationship feels kind of fucked. I dunno what Toby is cooking there. Susie and Kris still function quite well in Chapter 5. The magic is still there, but we'll see if that carries through in 6 which *may* involve Noelle with the party again (but for realsies this time).

I'm not holding my breath for any theories anymore though.

>>83665231
I wanted to complain about that too but it's not like the Gerson "prophecies" really amounted to much either. The fandom as a whole over-theorized Chapter 5, which was mostly a filler chapter all things considered.

>>83665236
The only thing I know about Jax is that he's an asshole, so I can't say that fact bothers me t-b-h. It's not like I'm pulling out my wallet to buy TADC merch. I've watched far worse shows before.

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>>>/co/
>>>/co/
>>>/co/
>>>/co/
>>>/co/

>>83665296
When I watched that episode, I felt nothing over Jax suffering through the consequences of his own actions because of the shit he had done. Goose confirming him to be trans feel like a way to shoehorn some more sympathy towards him despite the fact he fumbled with Ribbit, was a shithead towards Gangle, Zooble, and pretty much anybody just to push them away and prevent them to get close to his heart. Even as a traumatic response or a way to cope, its ultimately the decisions he made that lead up to this point. It was pretty predictable in a serviceable yet mediocre way.

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>>83664554
Yeah, if something like that doesn't happen I don't think I'll bother coming to these threads any more. Didn't even finish the chapter, have uninstalled Deltarune, and will probably delete my saves at some point just to save the tiny amount of disk space they use. Years of a great story and characters down the drain because Toby gets his jollies from yurishit, and couldn't even write it well (all he needed to do to make it acceptable was have Noelle in this chapters dark world so they could actually build a relationship, rather than a mere two scenes in ch 2 and 4, and get rid of the "I was always obsessed with Noelle" shit from Susie, and move the yuri stuff to the end of the chapter). I just don't really see what is left for me to enjoy with the game now that one of the main characters has been ruined, one's probably a tranny, and the other seems to be there only to be tormented.

>>83665310
Susie?

bro what the fuck just happened

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>>83665190
>we found out that only reason susie was bully kris because she thought those two were dating.
>high chance that kris will be a third wheel relationship for noelle and susie
>his only friend he got left is berdly (which kris may or may not want to fuck him)
>but their a low chance that be canon since berdly is too autism and don't know how love works.
>and as susie going to find out that kris is the one who is making the dark fountains

I could have added more to this but um... yeah. so far, its not looking good for kris.

>>83665358
Yeah so, how about that ending on the Normal Route...?

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who let the TADCtards in?

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>>83665338
I'm in far better spirits than you, but I'll still say there's no shame in dipping, anon. There's more to life and all that.
I'm content to stick around with my humans (I'm allowed to say it) in the thread since I actually do like a lot of you guys.

>>83665368
Starting to get really bleak for Kris the way this is going.

>>83665246
Neither of those characters are really jealous though? Susie starts dating Noelle without any competition, and Kris is too busy being possessed to even look sad about it. And WR Noelle is crazy, but she isn't jealous. The only obviously jealous character is Ralsei being jealous of Flowery, and he just kinda stomps his feet and whines about it most of the time. The fireball was in self-defense and wasn't even aimed at a person. I was wondering if Kris really did make the fountain just to fuck over the Suselle date - and if he did, then wow, just wow - but since the Knight showed up and actually accomplished something I think that's unlikely.

>>83665368
>Kris may or may not want to fuck him
Let's not go that far, the cage can only handle so much of the humiliation ritual

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>>83665190
I am a little bummed out by Susie's whole character being retroactively Noelle focused and how she started including her in stuff that felt like special moments with Kris but other than that I pretty much expected everything we got. It is like he is doing everything to force this relationship but they still have zero chemistry so it still just reads as boring.
>>83665296
Hate to add to the off-topic discussion but the reason troon-Jax annoys me is because the show becomes all about him in the back half at the expense of everything else and then it turns out that his whole deal is that he is just a repressed trans-person. I am sure it was an important story for Goose but from my perspective it pushed out everything that I actually liked about the show (the psychological horror elements, the character focused episodes, the adventures) in favor of a sappy and kind of boring reveal about a character that I never had any real reason to like in the first place.

>>83665338
theres a literal gay nigger in a tutu later in the chapter and like zero plot devlopment you really arnt missing much

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>>83665417
>>83665246
I love Susie, but thinking on this discussion I wouldn't mind Susie having a more obvious flaw and jealously/envy seems fitting to push harder with her. Everything does feel like it's coming too easy for Susie and she needs to be taken down a peg or two.

That said, I do think it's coming. For everyone, though.

>>83665417
The Knight probably knows when a dark fountain is created so whether Kris made the fountain to fuck over Suselle or not is up in the air

>>83665417
>>83665463
Hey, Susie? In the Susie thread? How about Deltarune instead?

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>>83665400
>>83665438
yeah. this shit sucks.

going to bed, night.

>>83665400
it was always bleak:
>Has been effectively using Susie for the sake of the plan
>Has been lying to her since day 1
>Has stone walled Noelle who still originally wanted to be friends
>Family life sucks
>Actively endangering the whole town for the plan no matter the cost
>One route has his actions directly causing Noelle to literally disassociate and idolizing it to the degree she's trying to not only abandon everything but draw Kris with her
>Is possibly destined to die or lose an arm over these choices
>Has yet to accept and move on meaning he's still clinging to Dess and what used to be good times instead of being fully willing to make new good times and actual focus on his still possible friendships like Catti, Noelle, Berdly, and newly Susie
>Has been stonewalling Noelle to technically protector but in the process mega fucked up their friendship
>More that isn't known till chapter 6-7&7B
Kris has always been on a bad path, helping Kris in anyway was always going to be one that leads to a bad path

I'm ready to move on to the next world, Rory Nite. I don't care for this one anymore.

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>>83665457
>I am a little bummed out by Susie's whole ...
I'm of the same mind. Not a lot of surprises for the most part, but the Noelle focus does rob some of the mystique of why Susie once acted the way she did. It's like, you could have invented any cool bullying backstory and you went with that, Tobert? I wouldn't say it has affected my opinion on current Susie much but it's a bit of a mar on Toby's writing IMO. It casts some doubt on the rest of the mysteries he has yet to unveil.

>it pushed out everything that I ...
I feel you. There's this old trope called "Cerberus Syndrome" that used to bother me a lot. It was when a story (usually a webcomic) shifts from comedic to super angst-y and serious, usually because a fledgling author realizes he can use his funny haha comic as their personal therapy. It's not the same but not too dissimilar either from what you're describing.

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>>83665457
I personally think Susie has more chemistry with Kris than Noelle for all the time they spent together and how she really cares about Kris' well being despite the earlier times. I like Noelle and Susie's moments but I agree that its starting to feel forced in. There could've been much better ways to handle her backstory than that, but I can't say I'm that surprised. I kinda expected it to happen in some shape or form.

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>Festival that was hyped up for 4 chapters had as much or less substance than any other chapter's light world
>Toby seems to hate Kris like Adventure Time writers hated Finn
>Aqua & Seth shenanigans and Asgore snippets at the castle were the only good parts
I'm tired, boss.

>>83665417
>I was wondering if Kris really did make the fountain just to fuck over the Suselle date - and if he did, then wow, just wow
Why would you be suprised, that's always been the kind of person Kris is. He isn't exactly an actual hero ya now given he's still actually working with the opposition, has been effectivey using Susie for his own means and risking her life over whatever this goal is, risking their town over all this, literally resurrected gerson and let Susie get attached despite knowing that once they close things he dies again, and he's about to fuckover his entire town over this goal.
>>83665576
>I like Noelle and Susie's moments but I agree that its starting to feel forced in.
No real other chances since chapters are short and Toby has no committing to actual segments out of Kris's perspective meaning the only time to develop them is either off screed or dedicating the development to being very much badly paced out/fast and trying to tie it all in to have it be less them being absolute strangers and more close to how things were with Kris as classmates who just never really talked while trying to develop the idea they just mesh very will with little need for a real hook that they just get along fairly well naturally sorta like with Susie and Lancer back in CH1.

The only options were ditch Kris for 80% of the LW gameplay to better pace out Susie and Noelle's dynamic or trying to shove it all it but also not avoiding the player entirely

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Kris and Ralsei will both become Potential Men. They will never be allowed to cut loose. I feel it in my bones. Another prophecy I now dread.

>>83665521
>Toriel and Asgore still separated
>Asriel still not here
Our choices don't matter, don't they? Kris might actually suffer the most out of everyone.

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>>83665617
>Toby seems to hate Kris like Adventure Time writers hated Finn
I mean Mew Mew did smooch him this chapter. It's not like Kris was the sole person flirting with her, too. She singles the human out as the one for her. So it's not like Tobert is trying to pain Kris as some loser with no game.
IMO, I actually think Toby likes Kris a lot it's just that his vision and ours don't align all of the time.

>>83665617
Orange was good too imo (Green is a literal nothing character) but there's a lot of bad in this. To add on the secret boss felt like it was just subverting the other secret bosses for the sake of subverting them, like "lol, we got mad mew mew again!" And it didn't even use its gimmick in an interesting way. At least flowery had a coolish fight I guess

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>>83665576
>>83665634
To add, it's too late to really develop them in a more natural pace, he'd have needed to actually include Noelle more throughout from CH 2-5 and not just in LW segments but DW as well since LW is sometimes a lot of filler or just story building but not absolute character growth and it's not enough time when a lot of the meat and bones is often in the DW. With only around 2 chapters left there's little chance to dedicate anymore general time meaning it's part of why CH5 ends with Susie fully inviting Noelle so she can actually develop and participate in the DW parts this time and have more time to talk about herself or her feeling toward everything.
>>83665670
>IMO, I actually think Toby likes Kris a lot it's just that his vision and ours don't align all of the time.
Correct

>>83665670
>Susie shoots this little victory down too
Holy shit

>>83665670
I think susie truly want kriss to be unhappy.

>>83665717
She wrecked this boy without even trying.

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>>83664096
I like you doeposters a lot, and I do feel genuine sadness while reading this if it means anything. Things will be rough for a while, but it'll improve, anon. It hasn't even been a day yet.
I mean, at the end of the day it's just a video game and there's nothing stopping us from having the kind of fun we want from it.

Anyways, goodnight, dorks.

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That's Weird route complete.
Fuck me, that was a trip and a half. Doefuckers are eating good, I'm really happy for them.

As for Main route, what a fucking mess this has been.
Whoever posted that "Krusie is the highest highs and lowest lows" has never been more vindicated.
Watching our boy yearn, only to get his heart dragged through glass, would have been beautiful suffering if the relationship that miseryporn was orbiting wasn't the weakest sauce in the game.

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>>83665706
There's only 2 more chapters left right? I think you're right though, there's not much to do to make it work out in a better pace for them since it would've been better if. Noelle was included more that would help the story out. I don't think it's too rough for Kris, I think Toby is gonna find a way to let them shine in the end.

>>83665670
This kinda feels like Toby jabbing at how people genuinely didn't understand how Susie views things when it comes to Kris and how she thinks things are from him because even here it looks like she just felt Kris was ingenuine or not serious by any means

>>83665717
shes into cucking kris and is mad the only way she can get with her waifu is through prophecy mind rape

>>83665670
This is Toby’s equivalent of LPS raping Finn.

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It was nice seeing Kris interacting with other "humans" this chapter. Aqua was cute, very strong little sister energy.

>>83665738
I think that's what hurts the most. I see the sauce Toby is going with but ehhh... enough has been said about it, too. I'm tired.

>>83665706
Even as a /sus/fag I think a lot of pacing would have worked better if Noelle was included earlier in the story, even if I might not have liked it all. I believe Toby's "plan" involves keeping Kris/Susie/Ralsei as the main party though. It's actually why I'm uncertain Susie will succeed in inviting Noelle to the darkworld. Unless we're going with a 4-person squad Tobert feels very strongly about our trio.

>>83665670
I wish I saved a snap of the kiss but I was too caught off guard at the time.

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>>83665670
FUCK
I FORGOT TO GO BACK TO THE CAFE TO GET INTERACTIONS WITH PINK

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>>83665834
>I see the sauce Toby is going with but ehhh...
It started out so strong too, with the drawer of unsent love letters and the lock of hair on the bed, but he just laid it on way too fucking thick after that.
It's obvious that every route (and I'm assuming we'll get a Twisted Route to round out the trio) is meant to be a different combination of heartbreak and yearning, but he really hasn't given himself the time and space to make it work.

>>83665738
>Doefuckers are eating good
Only snowcoomers do. She isn'teven attracted to Kris here, she's attracted to (You) skinwalking him. No kriselle for you. Consolidation prize is a ferris wheel ride with her, just before she makes out with Susie at the beach.

>>83665738
>Doefuckers are eating good

the ignorance of this statement lmao

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>>83665738
Just wait another two years for chapter 7, hopefully this cryptic message alludes to chapter 5/6 being skipped and isn’t just him saying fuck you to his fans

>>83665892
>she's attracted to (You) skinwalking him
That's not even true. The entire time she's mentioning Kris by name.

>>83665910
Could be that Side B is the actual point of what happened, Noelle starts a Side B to the chapters where she's the one to loop and have the soul instead of Kris
>>83665920
Well isn't that cause (YOU) don't have a name and to her (YOU) and Kris are still the same anyway or (YOU) are just Kris but freed from being the old Kris

ya know, maybe this was karma over the chair jokes

Kill yourself.

Dear, /sus/.

I’m been a resident /doe/ lurker since the Chapter 2 days and after seeing the dumpster tornado of discourse and despair Chapter 5 brought upon both you and /doe/ I would like to informally make a proposition: Formation of a Coalition

You see, we may disagree over whenever Kriselle or Krusie is better or a bunch of other shipping crap, but there are 2 things that unites us

>1. VAPID DYKE SHIP IS DOGSHIT
And more importantly to my proposal
>2. THE HUMAN MUST RECEIVE LOVE

Ive seen many posts on both threads turn on Noelle and Susie and express sympathy for Kris and how frankly absolute dogshit his life is, (which they are completely right), so why don’t we finally put aside our differences after all this time and give OUR little moss eating fella what he needs/deserves

What I’m proposing is a unification into and/or formation of a Kris General, (idk what acronym you could use desu), a safe haven for both Krusie AND Kriselle, as well as any other Kris ship you can think of (Kress, Kratti, KriMew, you get the idea), as well as any other content/discussion themed around the apple scented human. It’s clear to me that he is what truly unites us pass one single ship disagreement

You don’t have to agree or even like my proposal but I want you to at least consider it for a bit

Sincerely, /doe/

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>>83665892
>>83665920
Nta, Noelle specifically talks about how Kris is not acting like the Kris she knows. Imagine having the worst week of your life and you get impatient, angry, cruel, depressed, and all around worse, and someone tells you "wow, whatever's gotten into you is awesome, WAY better than the old you, gimme some of that".

>>83665987
>idk what acronym you could use desu
The Kris Squad.

>>83665987
go eat a dick

>>83665940
>Well isn't that cause (YOU) don't have a name and to her (YOU) and Kris are still the same anyway
Consider the fact that Noelle specifically mentions Kris changed, alongside the fact that ERAM mentions how Kris was potentially enjoying the violent aspects of Weird Route against darkners.
But also the fact that Noelle became knowledgeable about the meta state of the game and is sequence breaking intentionally, on TOP of the fact that she knows Kris isn't himself throughout both routes.
Not to mention that she mentions not running in Chapter 4 because either way Kris would be getting dragged down, and she'd rather be dragged down with him.
AND as a final note, she makes a pretty big distinction of hearing someone else behind Kris's words in Chapter 4. All of this evidence absolutely points to the fact she knows there's two separate entities, but specifically chooses to talk directly with Kris because she's aware of the situation they're both in.

>>83665998
My reply to the previous anon has some more counter points, but also I don't think that's a sincere judgement of her to Kris considering she's under a trance from the Thorn Ring, on top of undergoing all the trauma she did. She is simply not herself anymore.

>>83665987
This shithole never cared about the other thread, just FYI. The "sister thread" thing was nothing more than window dressing to keep tensions down and give artists the greenlight to crosspost. They don't care and never did. They would be happy if your general died so they could harvest your drawfags.

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>>83665998
>You're more fun when you're drunk

>>83665940
>Noelle starts a Side B to the chapters where she's the one to loop and have the soul instead of Kris
This fits with a running theory I keep seeing crop up again that the placeholders for "chapters 8/9/10" are meant to be alt-route versions of other chapters.
That said, I feel like (outside of the fandom circlejerking) lots of different fans are reaching the "there will be a secret 13th episode, trust" levels of cope about the game in general.

>>83665738
The one good thing about Snowgrave is that it's a window into Noelles most hidden and repressed emotions, meaning a lot of it applies in the normal route too. If there was a equivalent for Susie, it'd be way easier for the general imho.

>>83665649
Kris, Ralsei, Pizzapants and NCG, it's over bros

>>83665987
I'll sleep on it. /sus/ is my home but you doebers are cool with me.

>>83666054
That's the thing: Susie is very honest. There are few secrets she has if any that she' isn't revealing in the normal story. The only lie she's even got going now is what she's inviting Noelle to the DW for and that's partially her trying to be honest as well as amend the previous lie back in CH 4

>>83665998
I don't have to imagine, I went through something like that. It's fucking surreal is what it is.

Any Krusie copium this chapter?
The model train dialogue might be a reach but that's all I can think of off the top of my head

>>83666155
Susie sleeping in Kris's dark world bed.
Kris staring at Susie when asked if his romantic interest was a monster or human.

>>83665979
alright.
>proceeds to drown itself with her doefriend.

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>>83666087
that anon is trying to stir up drama because someone made a new kriselle general. i wouldn't take it seriously.

>>83666155
I remember some dialogue where Susie and Ralsei ask how you can express affection without outright flirting, and Kris tries to hide a blush. That could be taken a few different ways, though.

>>83663560
I think I should stop giving the benefit of the doubt and shoot Toby Fox with a gun

Susie sure picked up a lot of negative character traits, huh? I wonder how she'll be able to balance them out if things don't improve.

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>>83666293
There might be an actual reason for that.

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All would be forgiven if Krusielle became a thing

>>83666340
Knight derangement syndrome...

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>>83666340
>>haha susie remember when you wouldve just fucking destroyed this giant loaf
speaking of that part (though mostly unrelated to the actual point that anon was trying to make), it fucks with me a bit since right after that line she says something like "yeah, i wouldn't do that anymore... unless kris told me to"
but then when you revisit the loaf in sidescroller mode, you just slap it with kris' sword to destroy it instead of it being a susie ACT to rude bust it or something

>>83666340
might explain her sudden lack of care going after the knight after they seal up the fountain in the shop since she internalized that "its not time yet" or something to that extent or the fact she barely pushes Kris about what happened after the aborted weird route at the lake with them both being noticeably wet the dark world fantasy stuff really broke her in

>>83666370
this is the only way toby redeems himself or us getting to fuck carol

>>83666340
I actually wouldn't mind this explanation. But even as a ride or die Krusie enjoyer, it's hard to imagine even granting this as true, they could really bridge the gap still. Kris has been keeping so much from her and we still don't know how she's gonna react - influenced by the fountain/prophecy or not.

>>83666340
If this is the plan then releasing chapter 5 alone was probably the stupidest play Toby could pull cause people are just going to think Susie is a bitch for 1 or 2 years.
But let's face it, it's cope, it's all cope

Hey
I am just doing a wellness check after playing through chapter 5
How uh, how are you all doing?

>>83666340
The fountains turning out to be Markers from Dead Space that warp the minds of those around them to fulfill DELTARUNE is too kino for Toby to think of it.