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>Feeder Delia Ketchum
neeed

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>>83684053
For me, maybe. Just the thought every touhou character getting fat at the same time through the same thing gets me going, regardless of it had the endpoint you said or the existential horror ending it does have, and it would still stuck out since there is not a lot of mass weight gaining stories with that level of detail in its writing still.

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What makes a fictional story/setting good fodder for weight gain content? Why are some shows, movies, comics, etc. really good settings for weight gain media while others are not?

One big theory I have is that the more interesting and compelling a franchise's characters are, the better it'll take to weight gain content. Because dull, boring characters are no fun to fatten up. You need characters with interesting psychologies, complex characters with a lot of facets, a lot of hopes and fears and personality traits, all of which can be twisted into vectors for fattening them up.

This would explain why the properties that tend to generate a lot of weight gain stories, comics, sequences, etc. tend to be properties whose characters are well-developed. Stuff like Amphibia, King Of The Hill, Avatar, Evangelion, and so on. Properties with characters you can sink your teeth into, where it's actively fun to speculate, "Okay, how would THEY get fat?".

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"Want another pop-tart tubby" vibes. The American Youth

>>83685822
Or on the flipside, what are some franchises(WITH A GOOD SELECTION OF GIRLS) that are really hard to make good WG fiction for? Youjo Senki's been brought up before

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>>83684140
It's so good

>>83684140
I love how the facial expressions sell what Delia is up to so well
>First panel has that sly back glance. She’s hoping to keep Jessie oblivious and in denial about the fact she’s gaining weight as long as possible so she’s big enough losing it would be really hard

>Second panel shows Jessie finally got big enough it couldn’t be denied and is trying to lose weight, so Delia switches to undermining and sabotaging Jessie’s weight loss by helping her overestimate how much activity she’s done and underestimate how many treats she’s eating

>Third panel is Delia love bombing and praising Jessie after probably weeks or months of Jessie trying to lose weight and getting exhausted only to keep gaining weight. Delia’s finally pushed her to give up trying, maybe her own chub is leverage in that.

>Fourth panel is clearly more coy with the wink, Jessie knows she’s a blob and that Delia is gaining pretty fast now. Delia is just teasing at this point since they both are fine with it at this point.

It’s the classic closeted feeder strategy. Overfeed them, constantly deny that they’ve gained weight and tell them they’re fine(the longer it takes them t to realize the heavier they are and the more ingrained those bad habits get), once they figure it out work to sabotage their diet and get them to think they're working harder and eating less than they actually are, so they keep gaining despite their efforts. Pamper and praise how you still love them and think they look cute which combined with the failing weight loss eventually gets them to give up and embrace being a fatty. Now you can aggressively and openly overfeed again

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>>83687913
I would enjoy some WG fiction that explores the dynamic of programing and propaganda aimed at normalizing obesity and lazy gluttony. Typical youth and teens slowly having their perception shifted to where hanging out and eating stupid amounts of junk food is given the same consideration as getting together to gossip or playing games. A girl watching her friend manage to pin herself to the floor under her own belly, suffer some wardrobe malfunction from her flab, or eat so much they're burping too much speak full sentences; and it just makes them chuckle casually as if it's the sort of inconvenience they've delt with themselves about a hundred times. Even though just a year ago all this would have seemed so weird and unthinkable.

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>>83687913
>Literally EVERY timeline where there isn't a fungal apocalypse has the two of them get lazy in their teen years and utterly balloon into flabby couch potatoes

>Their fitness is a product of the end of the world and wouldn't exist otherwise

I kind of like the idea of realizing the timelines where your thin are the weird ones. Might be fun if we resume Life is Strange posting.

>>83688173
I mean that arguably happened to a minor degree IRL, being fat or mildly obese became pretty damn normalized and in many places being a healthy weight was viewed as being too thin

>>83683843
Fat alien.

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>>83688711
Hey, she may be a over-the-hill, overweight, underachieving, washed-up, girlfailure, but uh....shut up!

(For real though she looks damn good for an obese 52-year old here, hot mess or not.)

>>83690976
Kryptonian genes ain’t nothing to sneeze at.

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>>83688367
I'm intrigued by the idea that the true default state of every adventurous heroine is a fatso normie, if only circumstances would allow it.

Like Penny Gadget came up last thread: you catch Dr. Claw on the shitter and shoot him in the head so without its leader MAD spirals and dissolves, and you make sure Inspector Gadget waits for backup before confronting Clarence Boddicker so he doesn't get hit with ~50 shotgun blasts and become a cyborg. Suddenly, Penny's life is a lot more safe and mundane, and she has a lot more time to focus on her computers and robotics, which it turns out enables a lot more snacking and a lot less calorie-burning than globetrotting adventures. Hackin' & snackin', gamin' and gainin', robuts & donuts. By the time she grows up she'll definitely be a major fatass, but also a well-paid engineer who's never once been kidnapped & tied up.

...I don't know who the hell this Lola girl with Penny is though. Maybe she had a cyborg uncle too.

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>>83693461
She's from robot boy
https://youtu.be/sXuulIhhS88?t=267

Stories where you alter the past so a heroine leads a very pleasure filled life that erodes her noble ideals and corrupts her into a hedonistic piggy are better if they are aware of it but it's not only a battle against the changes themselves, it's also against her new alternate self who loves being a fat slob and doesn't want some scrawny busy body destroying the best life she's ever had.

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I got incorrectly banned from bbwchan's alt board for "troll" (that's exactly how it's phrased) even though I never say shit

>>83694558
That site has very bonkers, schizo moderation. I tried to make perfectly valid threads on both /bbwdraw/ and /bbwalt/ a few weeks ago and BOTH of them got deleted, for no discernable reason.

I agree with anons post at the end of last thread abour the Touhou story.

There are multiple points where it feels like it’s about to end or most stories would end….but it just keeps going and escalating further

>>83693461
>>83688173
>>83687913
>Timeline where "Gofer Cakes" are a real product being marketed like this instead of a PSA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn48uGaKFZs

>>83695931
This makes me think that you could write a kind of "Fat Neighborhood" story set in such a universe. Something taking place in the aftermath of 10 or 20 years of such programming. Kind of like the cul-de-sac in Ed, Edd, n Eddy, but instead of a bunch of kids having misadeventures and wacky escapades, it's a bunch of kids who are way too fat and get into inconveniences and troubles because they're so obese and out of shape, along with always going around to each others' houses to eat and snack.

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>>83695931
Timeline where PSA like that one are used as the blueprints for the new normal. Or maybe the people who made it are hired to make real PSA not knowing the employer plans to tweak the final cut to become glorifying rather than cautionary.

>"The Munchies" PSA where the little imps are painted as the best friends a kid could have
>Entire 30 min afterschool special rebranding couch potato as an ideal moral standard
>Manufactured Social Media trends making button bursting into a cool stunt to emulate and celebrate
>Shows with WG plots that give feeders or junk food makers a very heroic perspective

>>83688173
>A girl watching her friend manage to pin herself to the floor under her own belly, suffer some wardrobe malfunction from her flab, or eat so much they're burping too much speak full sentences; and it just makes them chuckle casually as if it's the sort of inconvenience they've delt with themselves about a hundred times.

I think a lot of "Mass obesity" stories kind of ruin themselves by making literally everyone obese and proud, it kind of throws off the bell curve.

It's way more interesting to me if, yes, the supermajority of the population is obese(like Tonga on steroids), but you still have 10-15% of the population who's thin and active and another 10-15% in the chubby-kinda fat range. BUT. and this is crucial, don't make them like doomers or rebels or something aware of how off this is.

I think the normalization is sold even better if there IS still a skinny/fit/only a lil chubby contingent in this society and they aren't oppressed or anything, but they view most people being whales as perfectly normal and don't really have a strong reaction to it.. That one mousey scrawny girl at the office and the one fit tall girl who does lifting don't see anything weird about most people being at least double their weight or finding co-workers passed out in food comas or rubbing bloated bellies after gorging themselves letting out gas. That's pretty normal to them(maybe fit girl even has an immobile blob of a mom back home who she doesn't view as disabled or off or anything, just 'retired and on the heavy side').

If EVERYONE is obese it feels more like mass brainwashing and kind of kills the fun, if you've still got some skinny girls who see nothing wrong with the world being like this it's way hotter.

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>>83694496
That works too, but I personally find the pivot to sheer normalcy more appealing. Like Ellie and Sarah up there: prevent Cordyceps so neither gets killed or orphaned, shift Ellie's birth so she grows up around the same time and place as Sarah, Sarah never gets into skateboarding or soccer because she and her new bestie enjoy playing vidya and junk food instead, and they both grow up and out into a couple of typical fat American teens like millions of others.

Of course, I suppose the fact that they're both being saved from terrible fates (dying to/living through the apocalypse) makes the normalcy more appealing than being "saved" from a life of adventure and heroics.

>>83695931
bruh did that girl straight up ahegao

>>83696353
>'Cheers for Chubby' is now a PSA promoting getting fat as the ideal for 50s housewives (which basically happened IRL in Muslim nations so...)
>'Craving Control' is now a long running newspaper gag comic series because women eating like pigs is so normalized
>'Creamy Beamy' is now one of the most successful manga and animes of the 2000s and Cheesecake is the top cosplay of pervy otomes
>'Fat Princess' is a best seller

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>>83688367
>Without the zombie apocalypse Clementine is just another obese black girl in Georgia.

I especially like this idea with the apocalypse survivor mind waking up in the obese body of their non-apocalypse self and how they perceive and process getting accustomed to their new body and reality. Some characters are disgusted by their new bodies, ashamed or even just feel pity for being such a soft useless tub of lard.

For the first couple of days she's just thinking about how impractical her body is for survival, contemplating her corpulent girth and how she can't climb a fence or outrun(outwaddle) a zombie to save her life.
She feels a creeping fear as she realizes she has zero chance of squeezing into or out of a shallow cellar window, an act she remembers doing routinely what felt like yesterday and had saved her bacon on dozens of occasions from both zombies and raiders.
And speaking of bacon good lord her belly is huge! The idea of a girl or any human having so much gut almost feels incomprehensible to her, how anyone could have enough food and safety to accumulate such mass is an alien concept to her she can barely believe it's real even as she hefts her own massive belly.
She remembers her first waking moments in this new reality and body, she awoke with a start feeling so warm and comfortable in a plush bed felt immediately wrong and foreign.
In her dazed surprise she immediately tried to sit up in bed to get on her feet as per her survival instincts. But she suddenly feels a sharp pain of strain running from her solar plexus to her groin as her brain issues commands to muscles unused and ill adept to perform such an action. So atrophied from a lifetime of disuse and distended by abdominal fat her muscles have no strength or leverage to even remotely hoist herself, only reporting back spasms of confused pain from deep within the mountain of fat that is her belly.
She immediately felt immobile and helpless and that terrified her to her core.

>>83696484
>that one Loud House pic with gigantic Lola passed out from stuffing herself and moderately chubby Lori is having no reaction to it while her two friends are deeply concerned
basically that, but no one is concerned

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>>83696487
Yeah. It's way easier to accept the fat reality as the better one if the alternatives are so bad.

Hence this is the premise of so many Life is Strange fics. "What if the only timeline where neither of them die or suffer a terrible fate that is stable enough to not require so much fine tining the universe is left unstable, is the timeline where Max and Chloe are both obese and lazy? ". If you know the alternatives it's not that hard to justify nudging things to the hamplanet timeline.

>>83696577
It's also kind of funny to think about "You were destined to be fat, if it wasn't for this massive event forcing you to be something else you were set to become a butterball". I honestly think long term someone swapped into an obese safe timeline might become even MORE of a hedonist than someone raised there. They've known not being able to eat enough, and now they'll never have to not be stuffed again.

>>83696739
>Max senses a timeline where nearly everything is fixed for her and Chloe.
>All she has to do is make some minor tweaks, guided blindly by instinct she doesn't really understand why, but it's an order of magnitude fewer than any other timeline she can sense
>She changes the ticket they pick when they were 9 and they win a year of free burgers
>She doesn't stop Chloe from discovering weed as a twin, but instead swaps the Sativa for some Indica
>Finally ensuring they visit that pizza place as teens on the first day instead of missing it and they get permanent discounts for being first day customers...wait....she doesn't remember being that chubby as a teen
>Max returns to the future and finds she's fat, and in fact fist deep in some chips and feeling bloated and lethargic
>Since when did she need glasses?
>A loud shameless belch nearby alerts her to Chloe, firmly obese and reeking, spilling out of undersized clothes and box of pizza on lap

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>>83696739
>I honestly think long term someone swapped into an obese safe timeline might become even MORE of a hedonist than someone raised there.

>They've known not being able to eat enough, and now they'll never have to not be stuffed again.

Oh absolutely, in the long term they would definitely love if not whole heartedly embrace their fat pampered easy new timeline.
I was more specifically focusing in on the initial reaction of them comparing and contrasting their old body and how their old lifestyle and instincts would crash into a blubbery wall with their life circumstances.
None of their old survival instincts and behaviors have any purpose nor would how they fundamentally assess their bodies.
The clash of their old perspective and adapting to their new easier reality while simultaneously already being spoiled obese and less mobile is an interesting character exploration to me in addition to being hot.

>>83698135
>a twin
*tween.

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>>83696545
>'Creamy Beamy' is now one of the most successful manga and animes of the 2000s and Cheesecake is the top cosplay of pervy otomes

It's not quite the same, but IRL we came extremely close to Steph's first horny comic full of fat girls getting turned into an actual SLG published series back in 2003.

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>>83696649
Food comas are just part of day-to-day life. When the really big ones pass out in the street, it's like cows blocking traffic in India. Everyone just casually reroutes around them until they awaken and deign to move.

>>83698976
Again, the 'normalization of obesity' angle works better if there's still a small portion of skinny and only chubby people who aren't being forced to get fat or anything and are stable groups, but view the enormity and gluttony of most of the population as perfectly normal rather than something alarming. (Like a mix of how Obesity is viewed in some north african countries or oceanic ones and how alcoholism was viewed in the late 1800s/early 1900s in America)

Imagine an edit of this with one of Lori's two friends obese herself and the remaining thin one completely unconcerned with everything. Two whales eating out with a chubster and a skinny, and nobody feels weird about the two whales glutting themselves into a bloated stupor

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>>83699159
This is sort of reminding me of the "Noelle Holiday starts getting fat and Carol has literally zero opinion on it, not enabling it, not restricting it, she just doesn't care or have any opinion on her daughters weight".

There's something weirdly hot about skinny semi-normal people just having zero opinion or concern with the morbidly obese. They aren't pro-obesity feeders, they aren't trying to fight the corporate junk food conglomerates or get someone to slim down,they just view it as normal and don't think about it much.

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>>83699413
>>83699159
>Hometown in this sort of world where in the last century or so mass obesity hit and has been normalized
>Most of the town is morbidly obese
>Toriel is notably massive and only mobile due to being a boss monster, and is quite a bad influence
>Catti is set to become immobile by the time she's fully grown
>Noelle is set to overtake her once she's her age
>Alphy's is morbidly obese
>There are some exceptions of course
>Carol is still a twig and Alphys is fit
>Bratty is slim
>Monster Kid is just chubby
>Susie is a chubster with a belly and chubby butt, but she's strong-chubby and isn't set to get full blown fat, she'll just stay strong chubby
>Kris is also just 'chubby', and would probably be a skinny if not for Toriel being such a cooking mama
>The ghosts are also thin, albeit Mew Mew wants to change that eventually.

>>83699706
>Actually changed my mind, that scenario fits Frisk better than Kris
>Kris is only being held back by stress from the whole 'soul' thing. They've got a psychotically gluttonous streak what with the midnight pie gobbling. Needless to say, they have a VERY big future ahead of them.

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>>83699159
>>83699413
For me, I just can't resist the appeal of seeing that percentage hit 100. There'd probably be some light news reports on it with on-the-street interviews where people mostly just shrug and say things have been heading that way for a while, and now that it's happened it doesn't really seem like a big deal.

>>83699706
Also that second Alphys is meant to be Undyne.

(And for every girl not mentioned, just assume they are regular obese or low level morbidly obese)

>>83699897
>>83699793
>>83699706
Also also Dess was similar to Susie, but was starting to cross the threshold from "strong-chubby" to "strong-fat" and was slowly getting heavier with age before vanishing

>>83699845
I do love newsreaders getting fatter to convey the story

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>>83701538
They serve as an excellent barometer for society's overall obesity level.

>>83701609
even better when they're covering the very thing thats causing the weight gain

>>83702136
Even even better when they initially remain professional and seemingly unaware of their gain, but fall increasingly into on-air gluttony as things snowball.

>>83703195
examples?

>>83703436
Don't have any, I just like the mental image.

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>>83699845
>>83701609
Right? Really drives home that this is The New Normal.

>>83700628
Get in the buffet Rei

>>83690976
Does she have a sidekick?

>>83708429
i've never seen that show but the mc looks way better than the redheaded one

>>83698135
Chloe would be fatter and probably a slob.

>>83708530
Parker is basically a mid 20s overworked femcel who doesn't really enjoy her work, but it's the only thing keeping her from going full girl failure

This isn't the right place to ask, but I don't know where else I'd go so I'm gonna shoot it. Oldfags, what was there for WG media in the beforetimes? And I mean WAY back, not like "Ponderous Woman and Flying Suit Reiko" era I mean mid 90s or earlier offline

Were there any live action weight gain themed pornos? Weight gain erotic comics in some magazine? Was WG even a kink or was it just the more generic BBW stuff? What was the most notable source of BBW stuff pre-internet?

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>>83708611
For as long as there has been porn there has been fetish variations. As soon as magazines like hustler and playboy got a foothold BBW versions also took root. I don't know of directly feedism or fatty pornos from ye olden days but I do know of one from the 70s that featured it called "Ilsa harem keeper of the Sheiks" which was part of an "Ilsa" porn franchise.
In it Ilsa the now former nazi general woman is operating a harem/sex slave education enclave under the direction of an oil baron in some country like Saudi Arabia. They have a variety of kinks they cater to but they have a pretty well established area for fattening and training the girls to be shameless pigs. Sadly none of the proxy protagonist slave girls is given a long running story line as being one of the girls put through this but we see it touched on at least twice. Once we see some of the girls being force fed as they're being broken in before cutting to some others who are now obediently stuffing their faces, one having gone full slob, covered in food smears and belching loudly as she eagerly crams more food in her mouth (pic rel). A later scene is for girls who went through their training but aren't going to stay as part of the sheik's person harem being sold off at a slave auction. Some of the girls here range from chubby to SSBBW territory. The scene opens with one very obese girl being bought by one of the attendees with cheers from the crowd and one joking how the guy who won really likes his girls to be big.
So yeah, not just liking fat girls but directly saying "Make them fatter, making them dumb messy pigs" has been pretty well established for porn for a long long time.

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>>83708611
Not an Oldfag but a midfag who was curious about fat history.
One thing to know of is Dimensions magazine, it was THE fat centric skin mag. It had a very popular(for 'niche' fetish standards anyways) online forum and a user submitted fiction section called the "Weight Room" I'd share you a link but Internet Archive went full moralfag 4 or 5 years ago and purged the entire Dimensions site from their archives making me their eternal enemy and clueing me into the ideological rot that was taking root in the IA.

DO NOT trust Internet Archive to keep anything important, they delete shit all the time now for business, political and moralfaggotry reasons. Use Archive dot today if you actually wanna preserve anything, yeah it's slow and sometimes there's a waiting queue but the anonymous creator is edward snowden levels of wanted by governments for his refusal to delete their shit off his archives so you know he's serious about preservation.

Tangent aside if you want a taste of some old late 80s 90s era fat fiction writing checkout wilson barber's stuff. https://www.deviantart.com/wilsonb/gallery/all?order=newest
He's one of the Oldest notable literary fatfags I know of and one of the only ones who actually preserved most of his old Weight Room era works. Shit's pretty tame by today's standards but if you weren't around for the 80s or most of the 90s his stories, especially the Weight Loss Camp series is a charming of the era grounded fiction about a self discovering fatfag that gets a job as a councilor at an expense fat camp for adults.
It's a slow burn by today's standards but you really get a feel for the time period. No cellphones or internet hookups, motherfuckers just casually smoking ect, just early architects pursuing random fatties in the wild. And you get the sense that back in the day fat women especially in their 20s and 30s were white whales back then.

I don't have anything truly period accurate on me so fuck it random b&w sketch.

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>>83711952
Something something I wish I could drink that water something

Fat superheroes makes sense since they can’t work out

>>83708936
I've seen this scene as a clip. That belch she emits is boneriffic.

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>>83715225
The ones with insane levels of super strength can't, at least. The flip side is that same strength means they stay mobile far longer than a normal person would.

>>83716141
On the other hand, there's the "soft" powers: magic, telepathy, telekinesis. In theory those heroes could get fat, too, since they don't need to move much to use their powers.

Makes me think of the old Fat Psychic writefagging on /co/.

>>83716210
i have a psychic oc, if she was fat she would be a fat psychic

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>>83716141
Fat She-Hulk always rubbed me the wrong way. Like hello you have an accelerated metabolism!
Plus her comics aren't very good broader lining on bad.

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>>83716210
Yeah, those characters CAN work out, they just prefer to lift weights with their mind and call it exercise.

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>>83716320
Zatanna as a fatty is fun.

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Does anybody know of particularly good content that combines weight gain with brain drain/intelligence loss/sanity loss? I know that one Fire Lord Azula fanfic does it, does anybody have other good examples?

>>83708586
i must say she's a lot better on the eyes than that redhead character, people in this community post her a lot but i never cared for her

>>83716880
I never watched the show but I never got the impression that Dee was supposed to be particularly attractive, she's a middle-aged daytime TV host. It's just that she just so happens to have one of the most spectacular weight gain episodes in animation.

>>83718367
>Marina is a smidge uncomfortable seeing how much she and Pearl's new body positivity 'large and in charge' focus has effected the public

>>83718704
Pearl isn't though. Pearl thinks they haven't gone nearly far enough

>>83723794
Kara is tired

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>>83724388
She needs a lift.

>>83709388
Dimensions Magazine(not the forum continuing off it I mean the 80s mag that was discontinued in 2002) also had a couple dozen VHS soft cores for sale, all staring fat women just sort of existing as fat asses and eating

>>83709388
Maybe it's just because I was too young to be around during the Dimensions era, but from what I saw from the magazine, I kinda think something like that is needed in our time. It just seems a lot more dignified and organized compared to the public perception of our kink.

>>83723794
>Verson of Supergirl who uses her powers as basically an excuse to let herself go (since even a badly out of shape version of her at 1% strength can still move mountains)
>Biggest issue is the hit to her stamina, she spends a lot of time outside on a jumbo lawn chair soaking up the sun to make up for it
>She doesn't like people saying how trashy she looks

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>>83727796
The only thing hotter than Super's exploiting their own powers for weight gain is the LOVERS of supers exploiting their spouses powers to get fat
>It's not like I can get too heavy for Clark to handle-
>I craved authentic Thai and Mexican and had it flown in
>What? He's cured space cancer he can keep me ticking along fine

In fact I'm already imagining some girl dating some magic immortal hero who is gonna make them immortal too, and immediately once that happens girls first instinct to buy a buffet pass and start eating like a hog now that there's no consequences. (As hot as health consequences can be, what's also hot is a girl suddenly being freed from those consequences and subsequently going full goldfish girl with absolutely zero restraint to give)

>>83729387
D.Va did it to herself

Trope I wish was more popular
>Girl who is a feedee/gainer in her youth eventually becomes a feeder with age after reaching her own size goals
>In general just "Young Feedee Woman in her 20s grows up to become Feeder MILF by her 30s"

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>>83730018
The best Overwatch fatty.

Ironic given that she's so petite.

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>>83730974
I've always liked Mei as my favorite but I have a weakness for the shy nerdy girl type.

D.VA definitely benefits from the greatest before/after contrast.
Plus the ego humbling aspect of D.VA's stick thin Idol figure blowing up into pathetic wheezing butterball has a certain embarrassment and fall from grace kink to it.

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>>83731824
>pathetic wheezing butterball
This part needs to be done more, I see to much still arrogant fat dVA

>>83730974
Everyone knows it's too late for D.Va to diet and cockpit modifications are inevitable

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>>83733147
I think the reason for this is that in fat fetishism there are sort of 2 main camps for fat girl personalities.
The nervous shy meek girl who's insecure about her fat and the Loud and Proud bombshell who's completely confident about her body.
D.VA's existing character already kinda fits into the confident self assured side of the spectrum and most fat artists and fatfags commissioning fat artists I think liked D.VA for her personality falling on the confidence/arrogant side of the spectrum so that's what the majority of art made of her leans into.

But I 100% agree I'd love to see more fatart and stories with D.VA ballooning up and having her character invert becoming less confident, more self conscious and embarrassed/sheepish about her growing weight as she falls into a pit of hedonistic gluttony she's too pleasure seeking to pull herself out of.

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>>83735403
Yeah I can understand the ego driven boisterous side, I can enjoy that too in equal parts.

I like this the gamer character veers into the nerd archetype definitely benefits a descent into N33tdom as well.

Though n33tdom especially has a few branching paths depending how deep you are in for the humiliation/degradation aspect. I like a lot of them but I understand why folk at large don't.

But personally I think she should be shut in and wheezing to reach herself~

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MAWS continues to deliver cuties relevant to our interests, such as fat lesbian Zazzala.

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>>83735403
Honestly, a lot of the best D.Va content I see is her in "you fail to learn anything" mode, and continuing to be haughty and arrogant despite becoming an immense blob.

I think in this regard that's why she takes so well to slob, because not only is her arrogance being undercut by her billowing bulk, it's also being undercut by her belching and farting and worse. And still, she thinks she's hot shit. It's very erotic.

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>>83740632
Also dummy thicc Giganta (though not quite on Silver St. Cloud's level).

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>>83740643
This is also a strong point, Gremlin DVA is very ingrained the meme so it makes sense a corpulent gremlin will remain as haughty and crass, just less able to scramble around.

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>>83740767
supergirl keeps eating big foods in this show.

>>83740767
God I hope she gets some fats at some point. She’s really cute.

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>>83735954
>But personally I think she should be shut in and wheezing to reach herself~

HNNN FUCK.

D.VA struggling to or being outright unable to reach her sex is The. Hottest. Thing.
Especially if she's aware how pathetic that is and the shame also turns her on.

My dream scenario is a D.VA who's just on the verge of being unable to reach and after glutting herself on a big meal finds she's completely unable to reach as a consequence of her taut stuffed belly being too distended and taking up too much space in her torso rendering her too stiff to bend at the middle at all.
And what's worse is she's at her horniest when she's painfully packed full of food so she's brought to the edge and kept on it by the same thing and it's driving her mad with no way to take care of herself.
But then she gets a bf/gf who then sexually satisfies her and takes care of her so she thinks she's got it all figured out, crisis averted. Even as she steadily gets too big to reach herself even on an empty stomach.

Until one day they get in an argument or something and the SO refuses to fuck her or even help her get off, and then she has the realization she's completely dependent sexually on her partner and that fact TURNS HER ON so much more than it should but nevertheless her lower lips are drooling at the epiphany. Even the embarrassment and shame of being so dependent turns her on even more it creates this vortex of horniness that crescendos in the make up sex giving her the most mind blowing orgasm of her life as she mentally focuses on how at her lover's mercy she is in that moment and her vision goes white as she passes out.

>>83744245
Hmmmm

>Superhero girl is developing a bit of a fat fetish she's in denial about
>Pushes to try fattening up the villains as a form of rehab
>Not only does it not work, but the next time they fight the escaped villainesses are essentially like "Listen, we need to talk" because they've all figured it out and just want superhero girl to admit to her kinks

>>83748619
>Batgirl(let's go with Cassandra) in denial as a very hefty Harley psych-analysiszes her before shifting to comically mocking her
>Ivy and Roxie Rocket waddle in to agree with her
>Batgirl is getting awfully sweaty trying to defend her new approach to crime prevention

>>83748699
Based digits
>Villains aren't mad(ok, a LOT of them are, but these ones aren't. Harley is insane, Ivy leans into the Mother Nature angle, and Roxie turns out to be degenerate herself because Roxie), if anything they're hoping she makes a habit of it
>This is budding future villain or at least anti-hero behavior
>Not to mention if she starts losing control around her fellow female heroes they might just start getting less effective
>Harley specifically gets to work nudging her into fattening up the other batgirls

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>"Hi Uncle Gadget!"
>"Have you tried these new things called M.A.D. bars?"

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>>83741601
>Wash my fat folds! Clean up my shit! Bring me more nachos! Get a move on, loser!

>>83752134
Now gen a fatter Punk Penny after a few weeks of the bars fattening and corrupting her.

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>>83753154
It took "Punk" too literal.

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I miss when shows were allowed to be unambiguously fetishy and also drawn well

>>83761905
Isn't that an edit?

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>>83762336
yes

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I haven't bothered to watch My Adventures With Superman, how is it?

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>>83735954
>>83745227

>>83752134
Gotta be real embarrassing being the "adventure child" of a series and getting fat. You're doing weekly escapades and still softening up.

>>83763341
Incredibly dull. Action scenes are sparse and toned down, outfits are worse than MCU's line fetish, and any cool opportunity to doing something unique is immediately shot down by going the most predictable route.

>>83767889
god, perfection.

Best thing to slow down barely capable leads is to rob them of their more capable sidekicks~

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>>83763341
its got cute girls but its clearly a shoujo series. i still whack off to it

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>>83767889
The caloric intake needed to steadily blimp up while going on all those adventures must be insane.

I like Nerdification to be alongside weight gain and slob if for no other reason than it gives some light at the end of the tunnel and keeps a ending from getting too downer
>I'm t-t-t-too fat to be a ch-cheerleader, my facsch is covered in acne, and my boyfriend dumped me...it'sch so over...
>a...a shhhhscholarschip? My gradesch in the finalsh were that high?

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Classic Lois is better for fattening, IMO.

>>83683843
>683843>>83688711
lawd she comin

>Fat town in Fallout built on a pre war cache of recalled junk food that was dangerously caloric due to untested additives

>>83773235
>>83773236
Fat Jesse is a thing I didn't know I needed.

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>>83769497
While i love downers, and n33tdom, nerdification meriting like an alternative can keep it from getting too dark. Less time outside, exercising, processing information better.
>Setting into that seat for a little longer, staying behind from breaks "it just gotta finish this book, i'll catch up" never does
>"I'll eat in the library it's a lot less trouble than moving through the halls~"

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>>83769497
>>83774788
Delinquent girls who take Embigalin™ show a 91% reduction in anti-social behavior and have an average GPA of 3.0 or higher. (Side effects include mild weight gain, swelling and sensitivity of the breasts, moderate weight gain, myopia, severe weight gain, and a fascination with unicorns or other fantasy creatures.)

>>83761905

Could still make those on internet.

>>83773236

Looks like her stuffing “distorted and expanded” with age.

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>>83774788
what exactly is so 'dark' about n33tdom to you?
>Oh no a girl spends all day in her room playing vidya and gooning living on neetbux how horrible!

In fact if you write the scenario with her in a relationship with a self-insert i.e. (you) she basically has financial support and someone to give her love, affection and fucking(in addition to maybe help washing herself when she gets too big).

Sounds like a pretty kino sweet life to me desu.

>>83776984
That image looks like someone who only draws muscle girls trying to draw chubby for the first time and ending up with strong fat.

>>83777110
She should simply gitgud enough to develop a from-home income stream, so I dont have to work overtime at the Long Day Factory to afford her plastic crap and deep-fried choco-lard deliveries. I hate working overtime because it means less time looking at her FAT ASS.

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>Fat Mew Mew mod is trending
Uh-oh, fetish content broke containment again.

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>>83777259
That's not too far off the mark since a lot of his content skews toward "AU where the girl is fatter and older but stronger and also a wrestler or something," which is all relevant to my interests but also sometimes they look so different it's pretty much an OC.

Anyway, I couldn't find any villains-turned-fat-nerd right then, but I was like, hey, Tharja is pretty anti-social, that'll work.

>>83777110
>>83778200
At that point she's just a housewife who's also a fat nerd, which is actually pretty great though.

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>>83779040
>villains-turned-fat-nerd
Heroine and Villain need to end up turned into frinenemy nerds. Playing DnD together while mocking each other's characters and play style or forming rival LARPing groups who bicker constantly about which one has the more indepth lore knowledge.
But at the end of the day they're more alike than they are different with their shared obsession of nerdy junk and obesity so they hate each other but only want to interreact with one another too.

>>83777110
NEET TF (Or Geek TF) tends to be more neutral and more dependent on whether or not their brains get reprogrammed too and how supportive their love is if they have one. Like it's objectively a downgrade, but they probably wouldn't view it that way, so it depends on POV kind of like bimbo.

Nerdification has a lot of overlap and tends to come with a lot more shyness and insecurity and self awareness of the chang(NEETS tend to be more shameless), but with the upside Nerd TF almost always includes IQ increase so your snively shy little nerd girl actually has a bright future in college even if her old dreams are ruined.

Nerd feels a bit more complete to me, like this isn't one of those TF types like Bimbo where they get "like totally unawaresees" and roll with it, and in fact being ashamed and shy is a huge part of it, but unlike a lot of others there is AN upside they could eventually discover

>>83780473
TL:DR. NEET stuff tends to be more aligned with stuff like Redneck or Bimbo where the girl essentially becomes an entirely new person with a different personality.

Nerd meanwhile tends to come off a bit slower and more organic(the physical changes like weight gain and BO and lisping and acne and bad teeth come first and in turn make the shyness and social anxiety seem a lot more organic and natural to the girl even if those are also being induced) and also has a clear and measurable upside in the end of the IQ boost even if it takes a while to notice. Not to mention unlike Redneck or NEET which tend to involve isolation, Nerd girls can often eventually find their clique of fellow nerds and get friends again.

Really Nerdification is really good for slower burn stories, and it pairs very well with both weight gain and slob as those make the psychological changes(more shy, more anxious, more stuttery) come off as more natural.

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>>83774788
It does keep the darkness levels down. In the midst of watching a young ladies social life fail her, her figure plump up, her eyes grow more squinty by the day, you also get little flecks of hope like a throwaway line she's noticed studying was weirdly easier than usual last night and she's remembered more of it than she thought she would.

>>83781351

Assuming she doesn’t befriend other gluttonous women.

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belleh

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Incidentally, relative to comments earlier in the thread, what flavor of fat superheroine DO you like?

A) massive tank/flying brick, she's fat as hell but it doesn't matter because she's still invulnerable and can lift a building over her head

B) sparkly powers, psychic or magic, she's fat as hell but it doesn't matter because she can either alter reality or alter your perception of it without needing to be able to run much

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>>83776984
Peak
>>83777110
It's a place of perspectives, like what you positioned is definately neutral to good depending on how you integrate it.

But ultimately like:
>>83780473
Said, say a spoiled rich cheerleader on a athletic scholarship looking to ride some jock's cock to the moon becomes a dumpy unwashed shut in, family tensions are gonna ride as she siphons daddy's money and tensions are gonna grow.

If thats the end of the story, it's a downer, it's where you go from there that can pivot it, like you said if you self insert or create a character that likes that then like with any WG scenario it immediately can be spun into a positive, but warranted an outside force uplifting them they tend to veer into degradation centric (one of my preferred) areas, but you are right they can always be spun into a good light with a little... jiggling~
>>83781351
Exactly~
>>83776984
as
>>83779040
said, I like their stuff, but i like maybe 1 every 8 pics for my specific tastes. Consistently strong stuff if you're into it.

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>>83780473
>>83780591
>Nerd TF almost always includes IQ increase
More often than not because the ones making it don't understand nerd, because it shouldn't.
Nerd is only going to apply to social graces and hyper specific fixations. It's easy to reason IQ increases if her new tendency to become obsessed with technical details and ease of absorbing information (Also doesn't hurt if her brand of nerd includes a habit of feeling superior for knowing things others don't so she is additionally incentivized to become more educated). But that's a matter of earning her new IQ with the nerd traits she's shifted to, any cases of nerd TF suddenly making her smarter are just the creator wanting to gloss over details for a simpler narrative.
Not all smart girls are nerds
Not all nerds are smart
Not all nerds are NEET
No NEETs are smart (at least not exceptionally so)

I feel like we had some concept ideas once before involving nerds and NEETs getting into fights about being confused for one another in a similar vein to how South Park has Goths and Emo rivalry.
Sadly Desuarchive is apparently down for the foreseeable future so I can't look.

>>83783969
I don't think facts randomly appearing in their head is fitting, but all I described was them finding studying a lot easier al of a sudden, their brain just being better at learning like that. IQ doesn't give you wisdom overnight, but it would snowball over a year or two

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>>83783969
These are good contrasts to make for what seperates smarts neets and nerds at least.
>No NEETs are smart (at least not exceptionally so)
Hyperfixated? Sure, obsessive? Yes, but the lack of education their seeking indicates a lack or apathy towards learning.

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>>83780473
>>83780591
I don't see the point in making it a whole TF thing when it can just be someone organically becoming a NEET, but that's me. Though I suppose there's only a handful of characters that can really apply to.

>>83783969
NEETS (or the tamer variant Geeks) don't need to be smart, in fact NEETS specifically aren't in higher learning.

Nerds ARE generally considered the smart ones, studying too much and not focusing on social stuff is THE original nerd thing(most of the side tropes like the braces/head gear and being chubby and awkward and anxious and acne/freckles came later)

I wish Fat GILFs got more love. All that wisdom and experience…,,,to know better, yet still embrace becoming gluttonous pigs,

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>>83784309
Same, GILFs are strong

>>83784530

This looks like a fun timeline where the Spies remained cookie addicts well into old age. They’re already elderly and retired, might as well return to Passion Patties.

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>>83784168
No, There is just a lot of overlap between nerds and very smart girls since they share some of the same traits, and the social issues that plague nerd girls also make it easier for them to focus on studies if they so choose. But nothing in nerd is directly a bone to IQ.
The bare minimum you could hope for is a girl who has some qualities that make her predisposed to other priorities like looks or popularity and upon being nerdified she starts using latent knowledge she's always had but suppressed due to her focus elsewhere. Pretty much she had the chops to be a science wiz and now that she's so socially awkward (and enjoys "Um, Akshually"ing people) she's not subconsciously limited that part of herself anymore.
Other than that Nerd TFs should have the girl turn into a book worm before she's any smarter.

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>>83763341
Imagine someone was described what anime is like but never shown. That's MAWS

>>83784781
Not IQ per say, but like, the oldest definition of Nerd in the modern sense was directly comparing it to the term 'greasy grind' (someone who studies a lot at the cost of socializing)

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>>83784739
Absolutely, live out your golden years in hedonistic escatsy.

Sadly most of the rest I have arent from direct cartoons, so have a TTG.

>>83784896

When you’re ancient, go blob. Retired heroines are extremely prone to becoming obese wild senior ladies.

>>83784860
>someone who studies a lot at the cost of socializing
I would argue that's only alluding to their nature, not any bearing on being smart.

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>>83784972
It's incredibly true, don't let them corner you~

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>>83782901
you know how peanut butter is pretty good, and chocolate is pretty good, but reese's cups are fucking awesome?

its like, just buy the reese's cup dude

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>>83779040
>At that point she's just a housewife who's also a fat nerd, which is actually pretty great though.

YES YES YES YES YES!


>>83783969
>No NEETs are smart (at least not exceptionally so)
>>83784076
>the lack of education their seeking indicates a lack or apathy towards learning.

>>83784168
>NEETS (or the tamer variant Geeks) don't need to be smart, in fact NEETS specifically aren't in higher learning.

I disagree with this idea that NEETs can't be smart when Neetness has from my perspective always been more about a lack of drive, desire, focus or direction in life rather than a lack of intelligence.

Alternatively the Neetness can stem from a Diogenical world view of being content with a simple lifestyle or not seeing a point in 'participating in the rat race'.

Additionally the Neet can be smart but simply be more captivated by the baser simple pleasures in life and would rather pursue hedonistic pleasure with their life than slave away to 'achieve' something by the standards of others.

A rather rare example I don't see often is the Neetness could be caused by a traumatic experience in her life leading the girl to become agoraphobic and a shut-in, preferring whatever lifestyle choices that allow her to stay inside where she feels safe and not overwhelmed by the outside world.
Although I suppose that psychological state might be more a hikkiomori than neet?

Also worth noting that for me I'm more lenient on the definition of the "unemployed" part of the acronym since I think she could a VTuber or something and that not count as a traditional stable form of employment while still letting her limit her contact with the outside world.

Also also I'm talking more about general characterization than some magical or supernatural TF type scenario.

>>83786082
>A rather rare example I don't see often is the Neetness could be caused by a traumatic experience in her life leading the girl to become agoraphobic and a shut-in, preferring whatever lifestyle choices that allow her to stay inside where she feels safe and not overwhelmed by the outside world.
Someone suggested that for Amphibia girls with the added caveat that Anne is going to become a goddess after she dies

>>83786082
Is there anything saying a fat coddled gamer can't be a housewife?

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>>83786082
>Also also I'm talking more about general characterization than some magical or supernatural TF type scenario.
No that tracks, I get that a NEET can be intelligent independantly, for me it's more the progression to a NEET as part of a sequence more often entails their removal from an educational structure due to other focuses, but you raised some interesting ideas for other aspects that can draw somebody into that life.
>Also worth noting that for me I'm more lenient on the definition of the "unemployed" part of the acronym since I think she could a VTuber or something
I am partial to a VTuber secretly being a hedonistically obese neet behind the pretty pink pixel avatar.

I just like IQ increase in Nerdification stories for the reasons given, it keeps it from going full bad end and opens the door to them still having a fulfilling future and making some friends even if their old life and old friends are gone forever.

I don't like "knowledge teleports into their brain", but learning easier and retaining info easier and not even noticing as that makes them smarter can really pair well with all the negative sides of nerdfification wg

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>>83786231
nothing at all, in fact it's my dream scenario both in fiction and irl.

>I am partial to a VTuber secretly being a hedonistically obese neet behind the pretty pink pixel avatar.

Yes, the perverse allure of the often untrue "VTuber is secretly a 300+ lb fatass" stereotype actually being true for once.
A story that actually executes this idea you might like is https://www.deviantart.com/m00nliner/art/Kacey-and-Otis-WG-OC-874688968

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>>83784309
Am I a coward if my favorite GILF is one of those "Unnaturally young-looking" ones?

>>83787266

A fat senior is a fat senior.

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>>83786497
Eeexactly, i'll check out the rec, preesh.
>>83787266
Even the most gracefully aged hags are hags at heart.

Rest of my AP collection is milfy.

>>83787464

Be fun to have a harem of gluttonous senior feedees.

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>>83787666
Any paticular characters you'd fancy or like cast.

>>83787815

Various DC heroines and reformed villainesses, all retired fatty seniors ready to binge without shame.

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>>83786082
Yeah, I qualified NEET as not be genius level because I didn't want to imply they couldn't have natural talent they choose to squander. But I also feel that the act of embracing NEETdom they are allowing any gifts of intellect to spoil. That by becoming a NEET their intelectual capacity will dull and fade overtime from being untouched. This is doubly true in NEET TF where stripping away such drive and affluence will have a direct impact to their IQ.
A genius can become a NEET through lifestyle choice and slowly waste that brilliance, but if a genius becomes a NEET through direct TF it would be almost weird if the TF didn't bring her IQ down rapidly to a more average level because it's enforcing all aspects of being a NEET, nit just setting her on a path to it.

I'd also like to bring up the Japanese take on NEET since part of the concept is from there. I looked for the right tags to explore it more on pixiv for a while and finally found they normally call these girls either "Unwanted Virgin" "Eternal Virgin Girl" or "Unpopular Girl" with some variation on those themes. But those terms do a lot to explain their take on it. Girls who have given up on society's purpose for them and embrace solitude. Like western versions they are usually shown being hedonists and just dumb perverts. Their NEET seem far more shameless in expression though, grinning and reveling in their awful lifestyle. Either to imply they feel liberated from the shackles of social norms to behave this way or artist's preference that they love being such deviants. Other traits they seem to view as essential to the concept is being very unwashed and nearly paralyzed by certain social interactions.

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>>83787348
>>83787464
Good to know

>>83791830
>Nora makes the skinsuit flesh actually alive instead of synthetic
>She obviously wants to make sure Jenny feeds the skinsuit flesh so it doesn't die on her(ew), so it helps enduce the urge to eat in Jenny
>Nora may have gotten the math wrong
>Skinsuit encourages Jenny into guttony and hedonism
>Jenny being a robot new to human sensation goes full Bender and can't control herself
>Between that and the skin enabling her she ends up immobile

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>>83793440
>Jenny learns nothing other than how deeply she loves gluttony
>If she ever gets to be human again she'll do it all over again in a heartbeat

>>83791830
>Jenny is now a blob bigger than a house
>Eating like a literal bottomless pit, she can’t get full and so just keeps consuming
>Her friends are begging her to stop, Jenny must still be in there somewhere…
>Only to be shocked when Jenny lazily belches out something about stopping when she’s full, turns out she’s the one in control
>She blew past what the skin suit wanted her to eat hours ago and it’s gone quiet from stretching
>Jenny is actually shocked more of her friends arent fat asses and pleasure addicts, who could have known being a human(or close enough in Jenny’s case) could feel so good
>Do Brit and Tiff have something wrong with them? Are they stupid?
>Nora’s intervention is ultimately recruited, taking off the skinsuit and deactivating the bio chips to cut off her digestion process. There’s still a ton of converted metal to be welded off though.

Jenny eventually gets back to normal and somewhat snaps out of it, but she’s permanently changed mentally. She sometimes mentions how when she’s finally no longer needed to protect the world she plans to get a new skin suit and start eating again. She also has some weird beliefs about pleasure and indulgence when it comes to organic life and will sometimes tell others they should indulge and not turn down pleasures at odd moments. She’s not full Cheesecake or anything, but I could see Jenny become a bit of a bad influence occasionally encouraging humans to engage in bad habits (namely eating) she knows being pleasure

>azula and mai are both fat in the live action ATLA
I can work with this

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Fattening instantly takes 20 years off an older woman. Rounds and softens.

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>>83797192
Someone in another thread once said that fat acts as "de-aging filler" on older women, and I love that idea

>>83797245

The ant-aging Ozempic: just get incredibly obese. The fattening clinics for GILFs make those wrinkles and evaporate away, replaced by the youthful vitality of 600 pounds. And thanks to that, they catch the eye of younger studs.

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>>83797009

>>83797245

I imagine GILF Fire Lord Azula looks quite young at 800 pounds on her throne, so fat she can’t even move.

>>83797645
Fat doesn't crack it dimples~

>>83797677

It’s a fun way to stealth-romance a GILF. Everyone thinks the 60 year old is 40 due to all that fat.

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>>83797836
Thats a sweet premise,
>"Excuse me sir your mother isn't going to fit in that booth, we have some tables by the window"
>"*MOTHER* oh thats rich sweetie, normally people think i'm your grandmother~"
>She pulls you in to her soft waist with an extra firm tug of renewed vigor~

>>83797934

No one knows the truth, which makes it that much naughtier. Especially with the hair dye hiding her grey hair.

She loves it, getting to feel younger in spite of being a grandmother.

>>83797991
Age is who you're feeling, and the younger SO can make an old fat lady feel half her age and double her size~

>>83798283

End up with a harem of faux-MILFs you can shamelessly walk around with. All of them dressed like 40 year olds and pulling it off. Other college guys flirting with the “MILF”s.

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>>83798386
Reminds me of this guy's stuff, a bit more extreme probably but adjacent.

>>83797245
Would plap

>>83798422

She’s done a great job of being a stealth-granny. She’ll land a college grad for sure.

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>>83798616
Guy did a whole set in trashy outfits, gotta love trashy outfits sometimes.

Chubby+trashy

>>83798676

Such wild and untamed outfits for grandmothers learning to embrace awesome hedonism again.

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Alright hag-lovers, what's your favorite way to arrive at Old and Fat? Rapid age progression and weight gain (magic, sci-fi, whatever)? Time skip before & after from young & skinny to old & fat? Already old and then gets fat (rapid or gradual)? Was always fat and is now also old? There's lots of ways to go about it.

>>83799781
I like to piece them together at the same time, the years catching up on them as their body explodes and sags, heavy with age and cellulite.

Depends on the character and situation and if it's gonna be positive/negative ultimately.

>>83799781

Talked into it by a younger character, though she becomes the one setting stuff in motion.

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>Amy in Leela's body was supposed to get fatter
how many times do we have to get robbed?

>>83801676
I'm surprised there was never a scene where Amy just gets fat outright. They tease it, and dance around it, so many times.

>>83801676
That's also a hell of a lot more detailed than the egg shape she had.

>>83801676

Reminds me that the Morgan chick in that show never got huge, and she had such potential.

>>83802433
who

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>>83802546

Her. She acted like a prude, but revealed she had a wild side. Could have been converted to a fat slob with time.

>>83802835
oh your right, she'd have fit right at home as a fatty, sadly (for me) it'd probably dip into slob.

>>83802943

Not necessarily. She is a neat freak.
Might balk at being a slob. It’s a coin toss.

>>83803206
She is, but i figure if she's "losing control" she's probably slipping into slob due to her whole kink.

She can stay neat based on preference, i feel personality wise that's just her easiest slip, if everything sliding down then it's a slippery slope~

>>83801807
It was so there that it feels like it was building up to it. I'm genuinely surprised Hulu seasons didn't even reach for it considering how these reboots love their callbacks.

>>83805574

Least that Goth babe was secretly fat in “Futurama”. Farnsworth was so based for not rejecting her when he found out she was morbidly obese.

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>>83797588
>In a timeline where a technique to use body fat to boost bending is found

>>83806179
>>83797588
Azula is slowly becoming the Fire Nation version of Baron Harkonnen

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>>83696484
>If EVERYONE is obese it feels more like mass brainwashing and kind of kills the fun
for me the fun is the idea that whatever's got obesity so normalized is potent enough that not even the fitness freaks can really resist.
not brainwashing, just something like fast food being so good that its borderline addicting or ease of life getting so high that people are never burning calories while maintaining the same intake (at first, at least)
rates of being overweight rising until that 100% mark, obesity soon following, and then whatever other categories health officials spin up to say "we arent THAT far gone as a race!"
>>83699413
i remember those.
with CH5 out i might do a mutual kriselle one later, noelle dragging kris down the road with her as the rest of the world simply ignores their rising weights.

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>>83699413
You know it's funny with how Chapter 5 Weird route went because we had that discussion a while back with an idea where Kris and Susie turn into the absolute biggest enablers for each other and foster some monstrously powerful slob and gluttony in one another. Noelle watching it unfold can see how the fatter and more slovenly they get the more they just split from the others in class into their own world. She makes a choice to walk away from their peers and join them in their decent because she'd rather be with them in this isolated social clique than lose them just to stay part of the normal peer group. And there she is having a moment of reflection as she realizes how different she has become from their influence to the point she can't even see herself and her former peers as being remotely alike.
I typed all that and now I see that Desu is restored so: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/78909327/#79056742

Weird route Noelle but it's obesity related Ch-5:
>"Kris! You and Susie did it... you've changed... you've gotten fatter!"
>"So fat... so messy! It's incredible!"
>"But no notices how amazing you two are... they just turn a blind eye to how great it is to be such slovenly pigs!"
>"They can't handle what you've become, so they keep marching through their boring skinny lives"
>"I want that...."
>"I want to break free of these social norms and diets..."
>"Kris, Susie, I want you to make me fatter too"
>"If you two tell me to do it..."
>"I can do it..."
>"Kris! Tell me! Order me to eat fifty Pizzas right here!"
>"Susie! Tell me to get my ass so wide I can't fit through even the widest door frames!"
>"If you tell me to do it... I can grow to impossible sizes..."
>"So tell me..."
>"Tell me eat absurd amounts and gain weight like crazy!"
>"Make me a fatter!"

>>83810773
>Alternate version of the Weird Route which is about Kris(the player) constantly encouraging Noelle to solve problems by eating, overeat when dressed, and in general become gluttonous
>Orders her to constantly eat to heal up
>Suggests "eat until you don't feel bad" to every complaint or issue
>Constantly provides snacks and enables
What would be our Snowgrave tipping point?

>>83811701
Berdly is carrying a comically oversized horde of gamer snacks intended to last him and all his new gamer friends he conjured up a week. Kris commands Noelle to scarf it all down.

Noelle hesitates, it's far too much, it's more than she eats in a month, there must be half a million calories in there, she'll explode.
>WATCH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I TRY TO EAT MY WEIGHT IN JUNK
>NOMF
>URRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPP
>GURGLE
>"Kris, I don't feel so good...I think I'm going back home

And then when she wakes up everything SEEMS like it's back to normal and it was a dream....though she must have slept funny, her clothes feel a bit tight....and Rudy comments she looks like she's been eating well lately

>>83811807
>The scene in her room with the ring is replaced with Kris holding a box of donuts and force feeding her

>>83812004
>First part of the scene is her confiding how weird things have been since the dream
>A lot of her clothes seem to have shrunk
>She finds herself getting peckish and hands idling for food far more than ever
>She's worried she's gained weight
>She keeps thinking of food
>She's hoping Kris will understand
We can bail and tell her we'll go running with her tomorrow....or Kris can bring out the snacks

Meanwhile Carol(as is thread tradition)
>I have no strong feelings one way or the other

those horrid bots are back in bbwchan and what's worse is that whoever is running them has some sort of self awareness, they started adding shit like "report my post" to their links