yarr harr editionPrevious: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/83907720Note: There is not, and there will never be, an official /dig/ discord server.Post what you're working on, ask questions, discuss general art-related things.Make your unforgivable fetishes come to life.Welcome: New and seasoned artists looking for advice, critique and support.When giving criticism, please, give actual criticism not just "LOL LOOMIS". Let's not become another /ic/NOT welcome: /ic/ crabs, /trash/ crabs, bad faith critiqueOther Drawthreads:Search "draw" on a board's catalog>>>/trash/drawVideos:Tyler Edlin - https://www.youtube.com/user/TylerE2284Proko -https://www.youtube.com/user/ProkoTVSinix -https://www.youtube.com/user/sinixdesignScott Robertson -https://www.youtube.com/user/scottrobertsondesignMatt Kohr (CtrlPaint) -https://www.ctrlpaint.com/libraryAaron Blaise -https://www.youtube.com/user/AaronBlaiseArtVilpu (Anatomy) - https://mega.nz/folder/9Pw1lYaS#Me7LSwlSg59lNGmkj9tt4w/folder/lPoXEYxSLinesSensei- https://www.youtube.com/@LinesSenseiPoses/Gestures:QuickPoses -https://www.quickposes.com/enPoseSpace -https://www.posespace.com/posetool/default.aspxhttps://x6ud.github.io/#/ Animal Head Reference Finderhttps://anatomy360.info/anatomy-scan-reference-dump/Books (navigable folders):https://www.mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8https://6chan.moe/loomis/res/156.htmlhttps://6chan.moe/loomis/res/1991.html (filled with scans, replace 6 with 8)https://anonfiles com/OeEc64d4z1https://www.mediafire.com/file/1hta2i7eqqj31ea/art_and_fear.pdf/filehttps://mega.nz/folder/yxtCBLYZ#FbtGBQQunWVCrjMMIzJSywFAQQ: I'm a total beginner. Where should I start?A: Do the exercises in either "Keys to Drawing" by Bert Dodson or "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" by Betty Edwards. Additionally, you can try the first few lessons of https://drawabox.com/ for building up muscle memory.
I've been redesigning a character of mine in hopes of appealing to men more, since most of the visual appeal in this series is more towards women. Did I do a good job?
Line art but I’m super fucking slow.
>>84090181The leftmost pose with heels pulls off the sex appeal quite well
warmup
Where can I hire someone to beat me with hammers if I don't draw
>>84092158idk craigslist probably
>>84090941Alright, I've got flats down now. I'll figure out what kind of rendering I want to do and maybe hammer out some kind of abstract background for spice.
some doodling after workhttps://files.catbox.moe/azhbmk.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/53phup.png
>>84092960When you get colors down and can't help but notice a bunch of little shit you should have fixed a while back.Anyway, time to go to bed.
I'm gonna buy a drawing tablet with screen soon. Do I need to buy a screen protector too? It's a Gaomon PD156 Pro (picrel).
Playing around with digitigrade, starting with a design closer to the human foot
>>84094151A screen protector's not strictly necessary (never had one myself and haven't had problems with scratches thus far) but one with a paper-like texture will make it feel more like drawing on paper. Beware, however, that this means extra friction on the stylus's nib, which in turn means it will wear down faster and replacements usually command a bit of a premium price. You do usually get a bunch of replacement nibs as part of the package deal of the tablet, though, often hidden in the stylus holder.
>>84094498Yeah, it comes with 10 replacements (and 20 replacements for 15 bucks). I'll try without the screen protector first and see if I buy a protector later.
>>84092960>>84093728Nice progress
Still not feeling drawing lately. Barely tried and forced myself to finish it.
Quick question: How long do XP Pen nibs usually last?
I've been practicing art by trying to replicate an artist's character, having the original drawing on a second monitor as I drew.This is the latest picture. I notice slight improvements around the face, but I an struggling to draw the body and hair consistently plus my line work isn't very straight or clean.Any advice on cleaner line art, or do I just need to practice more?
>>84098669For reference, this is the original artist's picture. If anyone can find a drawing stream of the artist (Atastic) I'd be really greatful since I want to see how they do it.
>>84098669You're making small tiny strokes Bad. There's a reason why you're told to use your wrist
>>84098940Thats fair. Often what happens is that I initially like a line I made, then sometime down the road, I realize I need to adjust it, erasing parts of the line and reconnecting them to the best of my ability.In reality, I should probably just redo the whole line instead of trying to correct small bits of it, right?
>>84099075>In reality, I should probably just redo the whole line instead of trying to correct small bits of it, right?Or just start and end where the line starts and ends. I can tell you're making small strokes because the strokes don't *actually* connect.Start farther up and end farther down. If you're accurate enough: When you redraw the line, start drawing inside of part of the existing line before where you erased instead of starting at the exact point the line now stops. If the line connects to another line inside of a curve also continue a bit inside that line. You go over some of the existing beginning and go over some of the existing ending in one smooth motion and this'll give you the right general direction.You're also missing a lot of places where the original artist leaves lines open. Not every line in her stuff connects. She probably doesn't have hard and fast rules about where to gap her lines, so try to get the feel of where she does it rather than exact placements.
>>84098669I think if you want clean lines you should try doing it in one stroke, like one dtrong curve for the arms. but also this art style looks simple enough that this is something I would personally do in a vector program with vector lines
>>84099305So, start the redraw where I originally started the line and end it where I need it? Then, only after that, should I erase the original line? It seems pretty simple enough.Also, since the artist is an animator, I was thinking that the empty spaces could be where the artist thinks there should be movement, but I really don't know.>>84099339>Vector linesInteresting. Is that something I can do in Krita? I thought about using something like the Bezier Curve tool to try and get the curves better, but would vector lines be a better alternative?Also, I'll go ahead and post my first ever attempt at the character, first drawn a few weeks ago. While I am nowhere near good, I am improving and I hope to keep improving.
>>84099457>start the redraw where I originally started the line and end it where I need itIF you ERASE a LINE:Start the NEW LINE slightly before where you ERASED the ORIGINAL LINEEnd the NEW LINE slightly after where you ERASED the ORIGINAL LINE]When you erase a line the erased section has a start and an end, just line a line has a start and an end. The new line starts before the start of the erased section, and it ends AFTER the end of the erased section.
>>84099457NTA but I think another issue too is that a consequence of your shorter strokes means more line adjustments. Personally I feel like it's better to overshoot your lines and erase, compared to trying to end your stroke at a connection point, if that makes any sense. Also, line sculpting (that is, adjusting linework by drawing over and erasing parts of it) tends to look better when you have dynamic line weights, because of the variation. When you have a single brush size like this style here, it becomes a bit more obvious where you have erased.I might take a stab at his character myself later, although not in that style. Simple characters are always fun to draw, especially since means I'm not worrying over complexity.
>>84090702Well that's goodI figure if I'm gonna keep the long arms, I should give her long legs to match. I'll still keep her around six feet (heels included) but make her squimched.Men like long legs.Come a long way since her first design, huh?
Does anyone here do game jams or other collaborative stuff?
>>84101093i usually wanna jam my pen into my eye socket every waking minute
Will 90s inspired anime/manga or capcom-like art style still be profitable switching into the 2030s online scene like it is now, or will I have to accept I'll likely stay as a niche unpopular artist with a few thousand followers uncapable of living off their art at best? I'm beginner/amateur level, a late starter (25 years old) and I'm aiming to emulate the art of Rui Araizumi to draw my own comics + I've burned way too many bridges with many bigger art mutuals and spaces through those last 5 years to make it this decade (I'm working on fixing my social skills and try to talk about art with others as less as I can from now on)
>>84103773you post here, on /ic/ on acrg asking the same question. What answer are you even looking for? genuinely? i wanna help out
>>84101093Probably not here, a lot of us are either just starting out or are generally really slow to output anything consistently. There are outliers of course, but most people that have skill and speed have either made other artfriends or have joined a community.
>>84103830>What answer are you even looking for? genuinely?The bad reputation I've built online, the bridges with private discord servers I've built, the few big artists I used to though of as mutuals that will most likely keep me blocked forever and never talk to me again made me open my eyes both about myself and how artists actually are beyond their art.I decided those will be my last few days on the internet, I will not come back until everyone forgets about the bad reputation I've built on /ic/ and various places, my lolcow status gets entirely forgotten, my output and drawing skills alongside content put out get significantly better and respectable enough: 2+ years as an hermit, totally detoxing from social media if not for purely looking at art, using discord for occasional critique on a few servers 2 times per month at best, drawing drawing drawing while critiquing my own work and notice if it improves or not purely through my own skill and self-critique abilities, etc. basically, drastically changing my mindset, studying well without rushing and learn how to enjoy drawing enough to push this skill to an advanced level without the intention or the urge to show it to people until I deem myself worthy enough.
>>84101093i did two game jams but it was just a weekend one
>>84104019this seems unhealthy and you'll likely break within a month or two. What is your ACTUAL goal through all of this? Grow an audience? Get better? You can do this without completely going cold-turkey (if possible you should, but since you've posted this multiple times for months now on multiple different threads/boards.) So it's best to take things slow.
>>84103773>>84104019Honestly dude, I think you're work is fine. The reason people keep making fun of you is because of how insecure you are and that you keep asking the same questions over and over expecting different answers. Just keep drawing and working on what you want to improve on.As for your style, the retro anime aesthetic is coming back and, in some cases, has been back. I don't think you're going down the wrong path by emulating the Slayers artstyle. Maybe look into copying some other media you like to add some variety if you think it's not enough.Anyway, I don't think it's a bad idea to unplug from the internet for a while and focus on improving. I've been considering doing the same thing. At 25, you're still young and could benefit from a bit of meditation.
Good job so far everyone
>>84109613Thanks.It's all me. :)
>>84104019>my lolcow status gets entirely forgottenLet me just point out that's not very likely to happen. People have long memories, especially in places like this, and if you've fucked up bad enough to become a recognizable entity in a place with enforced anonymity, it's something that's gonna stick in the minds of your peers for a decade, if not more. Trying to hide away from your cringy past just gives it (and the people who will hold it over your head) undue power over you. I'll echo the sentiments of the other anons and say you need to do some serious soul-searching on your sabbatical and sort out your major malfunctions, otherwise chances are that little will change when you come back. And don't try to sort yourself out by your lonesome, you're probably not mentally stable enough to come to the right conclusions without a helping hand or two. Talk to shrinks and/or priests to see if they've got any valuable insights that'll set you on the right path, but don't trust their word implicitly either; you'll have to gather data from as many sources as you can get and draw your own conclusions from the available evidence, taking into account your own biases (and there's going to be a lot of those when it comes to examining your own psyche) all the while.
Live you sluts
I had a pretty unproductive day today, I hope you guys are having a better day than me.
I did draw today but it's not ready to share
thought I could skip warmups, that was a big mistake as I feel like I didnt really do as much as I wanted to tonight. Though I am pretty partial to the muscle definition I did :3
today i drew some monkeys
guh
How do i gian confidence in my art?
blehh
Starting Tommorow morn i will be sharing studies/art everyday here
>>84115751Nvm it's already over i give up
>>84115917Bro.
>>84109787>People have long memories, especially in places like thisGood thing I only have this lolcow status on /ic/ and a few discord servers.The problem though: those few discord servers were also places were currently big social media artists with online presence and a shitload of followers hanged out though, making my opportunities to get equally popular or even just a few thousands followers audience through the internet that isn't autists in this decade kind of impossible in my mind. My reputation is at rock bottom and I accept I'll suck and stay in obscurity for a lot of time alongside accepting that I will make it way way later than some art mutuals as well
>>84116435literally doesn't matter. All that matters is if you make good art.
>>84116107im having a bad night man
>>84116564There are going to be more bad days than good, especially if you're new; but, even if you're not. Struggle is the name of the game. The secret is learning to come to terms with it. Then, and maybe even really only then, will art become an enjoyable experience, and will you improve to the point where your skill outpaces the struggle that is omnipresent.You can do it, but it'll hurt.
>>84116730i wish it was sooner. It feels like hell when i draw. And for some reason i show up everyday back for more. Just to feel shittier by the end of the day, beating myself up over and over. I know im gonna crash and burn soon.
>>84116762How long's it been for you?Took me about 6 years to start to feel comfortable with my art. It's still not where I want it. But it's better.
>>84116796year and a half? about there. I know i shouldn't care, but just my life is so fucked in so many ways that my hobbies have turned into ways for me to shit on myself rather than to enjoy them.
>>84116818It sucks. Most artists have been there (and if they haven't, I would bet that they're either not as good as they could be, or they gave up). I genuinely believe the struggle is a part of creation. Nothing happens on the first go. It takes time. I've seen it with beginners, and I've seen it with industry pros. Growth requires introspection, and introspection is hard.One of the things that helped me come to terms with things was actually to take more time. I don't need to get a pic done in three hours to be skilled. I can sculpt a picture over time, and if it takes me 100 hours (which some have), who cares?But a year and a half isn't much, even if you're a crazy person who devotes eight hours a day to studies. You REALLY need to learn to be patient with yourself and your art. It's not studies, it's not practice (though those obviously help and lead to improvement), it's mindset.Every moment of frustration is an opportunity to learn, and these are the kind of lessons better learnt early. It's far more useful to make mistakes early, than correct bad habits when it's too late. So take a moment if you need it, and just be patient with yourself.
>>84116907every waking moment not towards that thing feels like a waste of time. I understand things take patience, but i don't have time. I don't know to describe it.
Drawing feet is hard
