General for discussion of Human Domestication Guide & related fiction.simple translation edition>What is HDG?HDG is a collective kink writing project about the Affini (an advanced precursor civilization from outer space), who aggressively care for every other species in the universe. They have finally turned their glittery eyes on future grimderp hypercapitalist nightmare humanity. Using their natural charisma and various classes of Xenodrugs, they aim to make Florets (d̶o̶c̶i̶l̶e̶,̶ ̶d̶r̶u̶g̶ ̶a̶d̶d̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶p̶e̶t̶s̶ loved and cared for individuals) of us all! But don't worry, they always have everyone's best interests at heart, even if their methods aren't even remotely consensual~>Where can I read it?Read the original story here https://readonlymind.com/@GlitchyRobo/HumanDomesticationGuide/or check other stories on ROM https://readonlymind.com/search/?q=%23Human_Domestication_Guideor Ao3 https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Human%20Domestication%20Guide%20-%20GlitchyRobo/worksor the wiki: https://hdg.wiki/thread aged into default adoptive consent: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/84002624
>>8419726625 as a cutoff rather than 18 i get, cause of brain development not being *quite* entirely done at 18 or whateverbut why would there be any differentiation between 25yos and 35+s?Im curious what the logic there was
>>84201867>25 as a cutoff rather than 18 i get, cause of brain development not being *quite* entirely done at 18 or whateverThat whole thing is a myth, your brain never stops developing/changing. There's nothing actually different about 25, it was mischaracterizing a study that found that brain development was still occurring up to that age while ignoring the studies that show it's going after it too.
>>84201513Long live Terran independence! Long live Ferals and Independence! Burn the weeds!
>>84202334>refering to yourself as a feralno real feralist would ever use the terms of the enemytry harder glow in the dark weed
>>84202391Okay, god forbid I try to reclaim the word. I am not a weed, I am a proud Terran. I think *you* are a glow in the dark weed, trying to sow infighting!
Affini who discourse posts online about how floret owners are selfishly making their own happiness and well-being the responsibility of some unfortunate sophont who never asked for that, when it's the Affini who are supposed to be the ones who are making everyone happy and cared-for. Her solution is to abolish floret ownership entirely, and to instead put all of the sophonts under Affini care under a permanent form of Class-J's and turn the entire universe into a petting zoo.
>>84202520There are no terrans on the overnet, everyone here is blatantly an affini roleplaying a xenosophont. Ask any "terran" you see to post navel and see how quickly they shut up!
>>84203068fuck you weed, of course theres terrans on the overnet
>>84203135Sure thing, firstbloom. Belly button or gtfo.
>>84203266Oh yea you thought i wouldnt?Well how you like THEM apples
donald flort rage posting on flort social about feralists until 4am
>>84203442Rubbable
>>84203442Kissable even
>>84203667>>84203724wehh
>>84203938It is a clearly factual matter that you provided the evidence for yourself, its not my fault 6ou have a cute tummy.
>>84203442Now post neck to prove you aren't just using a floret. Wrists and ankles too!
>>84204025dont fall for it! These affini are trying to hunt you! Dont fall for it! Stay strong!
>>84204106b-but anon... i gotta prove them wrong! I gotta BTFO the weeds!
>>84204197Petal...
>>84204197A real feralist doesn’t seek approval from the weeds
>>84204360APPROVAL? WHOS SEEKING APROVAL?! IM DESTROYING THEM WITH FACTS AND LOGIC
>>84204474The facts and logic of having a bare neck and a cute tummy so they all know how ready you are to be adopted...?
>>84204474YOU ARE SHOWING OFF YOUR BODY, YOU ARE ACTING LIKE A SHOWDOG
>>84204527>>84204507SSILENCE! ITS COOL AND BADDASS! IM PROVING HOW WRONG THEY ARE!
>>84204474Fact: Showing off your tummy and being praised felt goodLogic: Why would someone want you to stop feeling good?
Affini from another galaxy who doesn't get all the hype going through the Compact over this new species of sophont called "Terrans." She books a trip to the Milky Way to see what all the fuss is about, feeling skeptical until she spots her first group of Indies just chilling out and cannot stop herself from squeeing at how cute it is.
>>84204627You aren’t getting let back into the “Cool and Awesome” feralist hideout, you’re getting too close to *them*
>>84204836>Kicking out vulnerable Free Terrans, leaving them lonely and isolated, easy prey for the Affini.
>>84204679SHUT UP! Its not that! NUHUH! It definitley did not feel good! It feels good to know i have *destroyed* the fools argument! To know im the one thats *right*!>>84204836You cant kick me out! Im the highest in rank since the captain went space-mad!
>>84204929I'm signing your adoption papers now.
>>84204898They are already too far gone, they are a risk, clearly they are too comfortable around the *WEEDS*
>>84205012HA! Who not a terran now huh!!?TOO BAD! YOULL NEVER FIND OUR SHIP!
>>84205320I never said that I was and I already have!I've already rooted its location data back to mine. So the next time you try to jump anywhere you should get tunneled right to me!I've also passed you location on to the BXWC, so they're currently on the way ro collect you am you now.
>>84201867>25 as a cutoff rather than 18 i get, cause of brain development not being *quite* entirely done at 18 or whateveryeh I had mostly that idea on that range>but why would there be any differentiation between 25yos and 35+s?Eh I made the chart based on the how well would an indie fare while having to avoid ending with a collar in an environment that's very much looking to integrate them into it16-25 brain's still developing, prone to do stupid shit thus not as likely to be stamped as feral with exemptions on fervent rulebreakers 25-35 brain enters mature stages, still developing but in self discovery, has to start abiding by the rules in the compact but is still offered some amount of choice leniency35+ is mostly considered mature and much less excusable if you break from independent traits (which at this point would be looking at an Affini slightly longer than usual)Becoming a Floret or a Pinnate by choice is open on every part of these stages, but the probability of proactiveness from Affini slowly increases with age imo
you know i have odd feelings about opression settings. On one hand, they awaken in me this rebelliousness thats somewhere between "playfully bratty" and "genuine autistic screeching at 'muh justice' "But on the other, im clearly drawn to these settings. Even when they horrify me, make me angry, disgusted, whatever other adjectives, theres just this fascination with them despite it all. (Also its hot, duh)And HDG is an odd one, cause yes lifes great, indie or floret, you're gonna have a blast. But it IS, for a human, still an opressive setting. No rights, autonomy or even saftey to be had. Yet it adds this *added* layer of confusion, cause life's genuinely good, and you can generally nod along with "yea they mean for the best"... yet then sometimes that *edge* shines through.Its some good stuff
>>84207011There's this developing hard sci-fi setting I've been getting into call 'Lost Suns' it far future and aliens and what not but its really scientifically grounded stuff, the ships are all brutalist and grounded in known information, the aliens are all REALLY alien, the works. The situation is, there's this like coalition of nations, I forget the name of it, but its all the aliens coming together to fight a swarm of AI robots called Pointwatch. And the thing about Pointwatch is that it isn't sworn to destroy all life like so many other fictional AI. In its striving for achiving happines for the species that created it, it recognized Civilization as the limiting factor. Its goal, isn't to purge all life but to decimate all civilization, so natural life will continue in what it considers to be peace and happiness.And literally every time it comes up on youtube, and I see the Pointwatch walkers the first thing that comes to mind is 'That is almost exactly what the Affini want' maybe not exactly how they'd handle things, but they could absolutly make Pointwatch an incredible asset to the Compact with some code correction.It inspired my understanding of the Affini's evolution, it made me want to see large scale conflicts with an opposition that is as unstopable as you have misunderstood their genuine goals, it made me want to be pet by their squid robot things as reward for signaling them and causing the near complete leveling of an entire planet, all for their better systems to be installed instead.It made me want to see higher civilizations fully realized as a non-combative threat because even their capacity for benevolence is to close to almighty to ever hope to contend.It helped me to see both sides of the situation, and choose the one that was really right for me.I can see all the very genuine appeal of wanting to fight back, of wanting to play the hero. I always, could, that comes free with like all of sci-fi.But I losing can be very fun too.
>>84208169>Natural life>Peace and happinessSomeone needs to watch a nature documentary some time.
>>84209265I never got the 'modernity brings only misery' crowd, especially when their solution is to 'return to nature'. The reason you feel like all your problems come from modern life is because you live in modernity, and it has ablated many, many much more horrible things that were endemic to 'natural' life. Natural life is very bad. We built modern life in a desperate, reactionary attempt to escape it.
>>84209322Actually technology and nature were in a perfect balance of freedom and comfort when I was 12 years old. By staggering coincidence that's also when all the best food, movies, television and video games were made.
>>84209265>watching planet earth with a point watch drone
>>84209355unbelievable. i will join my local conservative party so i can better base my worldview and ideology on this
>>84209322Its all rosey tinted lenses, Pointwatch is just what happens when you thrust that into Skynet
>>84209376theyre kinda cute
>>84209459They are, I really like themThis is of all the sophonts in the setting, but it does give a better sense of their scale.
>>84209544So if a pointwatch drone runs into a random civvy do they just, like. Leave them alone, or mug them and steal their phone and them dump them in the woods, or crush them into a little meatman pancake or what
>>84209564I think its a pretty average experience dying miserably to a machine as far as the cannon is concerned, but I would really like it if they pet me.This is a sketch of one with a large gun, so its pretty easy to get the gist of their operation.When you watch the development videos you do definitely get the sense that the author isn't reaching to do something actually interesting with them, and really just wanted justification for his addmitedly very cool space aliens having lots and lots of guns but also all being friends.Which I am fine with, but I won't ever stop seeing the Affini in Pointwatch.
>>84209678"destroy all technology" is a little boring imo but "destroy all technology except the drones we need to keep the sweet little squishy sophonts fed and safe" is gooood. but this is also a human pet fetish thread and not a general sci fi thread so maybe that's what you'd expect to get out of someone here
>>84209712There is more than a little reason to assume that our opinion is the standout feature here, and likely healthier overall to acknowledge that, but I'm allowed to want the robots to pet me dammit!All of them just fucking kill you, we can have one that calls me a good girl and makes me eat out of a bowl!!!!
>>84209801it should use that very long manipulator tendril for ruffling my hair and putting me in air jail when i do something it doesn't want me to, not violence. for shame
bap
How to convince an Affini to let you play violent videogames?
>>84213315plant who gives you lots of kisses... .>>84214647look up at her very cutely with big wet eyes and ask if she'll play it with you?
Basedffini
mistress' feed and seed
>>84204735>and cannot stop herself from squeeing at how cute it is.being near a squeeing affini (that hasn't adapted itself to living around humans) probably feels like getting hit with an LRAD
Standing in front of an enormous widow, staring down at the planet earth below, thinking to yourself how all of mankind's exploits up until now, the Compact-Accord "war," how all of it seems to matter so little when you see with your own eyes how small and vulnerable the world really is in the infinite vastness of space. Your thoughts are interrupted as what appears to be a 3 meter highly polished stone cube slowly passes in front of your window as it orbits the planet.
>>84218144why is the widow so large? does she have an unusual class-G regimen?
>>84218319Nobody makes a fool of Anonymous 84218144... you'll pay for this
Typical floret with an average penis
>>84218319Mistress is very large
>>84218341unusual floret with an anomalous penis
>>84219675Incredible floret with an extraordinary penis
>>84219691fucked up on my digitized ramet's amazing digital penis
Exceptional Floret without a penis.
Probable floret with a theoretical penis
usual floret who once had a penis
musical floret whose penis is serious, penis delirious
xenodrug equivalent of jenkem
>>84220681penis oblivious penis spontaneouspenis combusting, probably dangerouspenis cancerous penis rancorouspenis consumed and no longer glamorouspenis luminiferous penis cantankerouspenis rising up like Jesus Christiferouspenis bulbous penis obviouspenis no more than a piece of meat on us
floret that is a large migratory shorebird
Albino troglodytic floret with no eyes
>>84222020gently luring them to me with soft clicking noises and then hugging and holding them close
>>84222073They trill and wriggle bucase their feet aren't on rhe ground
>>84222667struggle snuggles!!
>>84222667awww!! so cute and helpless!! snuggle harder!!!
>>84222692>>84222738Evil!!!!!It curls up and keeps struggling around to get away
>>84222973poor baby...feed it raw fish until it feels better...
>>84223124You get a series of reluctant squeeks, it would much rather be on the ground, but it does eat
>>84220735Aromatic Class-S
Floret that THINKS its telling you some really interesting story but actually all that you hear is incoherent noises
>>84223520Floret that keeps eating the K-gummies
>>84223208i am going to hold this creature on my lap forever. i love it
>>84223556Its gotta be special mix Ks thoughnormal you take Ks you noice quite quickly you cant speak normaly, it wont come out rightBut i think its much more fun if they *DONT* notice/realize
>>84223556>>84223590Nerd floret who is afraid to admit they don't know what K's are and is desperately looking it up on their tablet to no avail when no one's paying attention
>>84223687shhhh, dont mind the dummy dummys, they're happier when undistrubedObviously its Ws actually
>>84223573At least let it put its legs on something!!!You monster!>>84223590D,F,H, and S can all have some effect that might make the inablity to communicate easier to ignore. Get in a subtle mix of all of the above with a dense W baseline and voila! Xenodrug mix we can just call K because there's not even almost a vowel sound in DFHSW! Some gelatin and a smilely face later and you've got K-gummies!
>>84223728Behold!I unfucked myself with an explanation!!!Cower and weep at my thwksbeosnsosbagrjd8sbdksjdbekwb37djwosbdj!!!!Bark!
the W'd floret yapping your ear be likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZk32g1paiA
>>84223808its legs can be on my lap :3 it will have to be dependent on me for sensing and moving around... cute...!
>>84223982It can at least kind of know where it is now, not that it trusts you to stay there very long... or understand what forever means or understand why the ground is so soft or understand in general
>>84224207cute... cute... too cute... stupid little flort... i love it...
>>84224214But it DOES understand that you're EVIL!!!whatever a you is...
Floret that is ALWAYS full of eggs
>>84225230does she lay the eggs? In me? Or hath she been laid in?
naive firstbloom who knows nothing more of the universe than cute floret videos., protect her at all costs.
>>84225245She refuses to elaborate, but they are all her eggs.You may have one (1) if you ask very nicely.
>>84225319Shelteredffini...
>>84225352Oh i shall ask oh so verry nicely and sweetly.(And then take it home to make a yummy ommlette)
>>84225388She doesn't show you how she gets the egg, but she is near enough that you hear a wet pop before she hands you the roughly head sized egg.She would not be offended if you ate it.
using my compiler to save the floret egg compilation pattern and make it for breakfast every day
Floret full of Ws reciting everytjing Shakespeare had ever written
Feralist defector who is absolutely cooperative, but insists against all objections that she's allergic to everything but synthcubes
>>84225785she likes the chalky texture. its good mouthfeel
>>84225785did she not get all her allergies cured at her first vet visit?
>>84225785If she can eat synthcubes she can eat flortslop, they are made of exactly the same ingredients
>>84226004Not true. The slop is made with love
>>84226222If that is what inspires its popularity then I must suppose so
>>84225806It does, doesn't it?>>84225820They claim they did, but she insists it didn't work and gets very upset at the introduction of any "unsafe" foods.>>84226004She says flortslop will trigger a deadly reaction because it isn't a cube.
>>84226663Voila
>>84226663Flortslop is available in gelatinous cubes
>>84226769She says she'll lacerate her mouth and insides if she eats this and I think she's right.>>84226781She seemed to consider it for a second but she says she's allergic to everything that makes things gelatinous and squishy things are poison...
>>84226917Is she aware that she is compsed entirely of squishy things?Don't ask her just, does it look like she knows?
>>84226982I really doubt it, she's unfortunately not well fed, as you know the synthcubes aren't very nourishing or appetite provoking, so she's far less squishy than a terran should be. If I asked, I think she'd either get really upset or obstinately deny it. I don't think either helps.
>>84227148Well a good place to start is probably with a metabolic adjustment, likely with some indirect nutrient delivery, allowing her to keep eating her cubes while slowly introducing other potential solid cubed food objects. Its probably a good idea to take her to a sniffles ward actually and see if we can't get some scans done on what all she's allergic to, and just how severe it all is. If nothing is really life threatening we can then get to work on nuetralizing a lot of those reactions and hopefully getting her living happier and healthier.
Imagine being taken to work by your affini (her work and you asked to go) and all the other plampts love you so much that within five minutes of her sitting down you’ve been shot up with so many different xenodrugs that her place of work might as well be a literal other dimension.
>>84214647Affini with a cat floret, specifically a really tall and sleek and extremely soft serval cat floret who by the way is me this is me I’m talking about, who has to design video games to be more violent or gory to satisfy her floret’s prey drive. She says it’s like how working dogs need to be worked or foraging animals need to forage or they get depressed. She’s actually gotten really good at modding as a result and has tied together some really crazy mods that link one game to another through various in-universe sci-fi methods. Her floret asks for really extreme sex mods too but every floret wants those so she barely had to code anything for that. Sometimes her floret will use the compiler link she set up to make food in the game and have it appear in real life, eat a really nice meal by a roaring fire, and fall asleep to the sound of the smoke and co2 alarms going off. She has to keep reminding the hab AI that her floret’s actual body is safely crammed into a tube behind a bunch of firebreaks for safety and the huge serval curled up under a chilly sky of faux stars is basically a robot. But the hab AI is such a worrier and sets the alarms off anyway. She gets there at maximum speed every single time just in case it’s a real emergency and has to calm herself down by waking up her floret up and petting him back to sleep a few times in a row. She knows when to stop when he starts making really loud sad pitiful meows that translate to “please stop waking me up mommy I’m sleepy!!!”
>>84228347Serval flort is always very very cute
>>84229956Thank you! I would have a very very large outdoor-indoor hab connected to where my mommy lives because she wouldn’t want to domesticate me too thoroughly and so it’s for my protection and the protection of others you see. But also I would be a very good boy and able to get out really easily and literally everyone across the entire hab ring would know someone who knows someone who knows me and I’d be getting petted and seeing cool stuff all the time and she would lovingly pretend to never know because that’s good enrichment too letting me practice being really sneaky. She would also know exactly how to support my long and unusually large body such that I can breathe and stuff perfectly to fall asleep and would use that against me. All it would take is being cuddled correctly complete with a nice warm blanket of heated vines and some cold air outside of the blanket and I would be purring myself to sleep instantly.
Evil Feral that shows sensitive Affini old St. Judes ads to make them cry.
>>84230891Class O's! Class triple-O's! Class O times a million!!
>>84230891Evil floret who talks about how sad they were before their affini found them
>>84231050Class W's.No i did not almost say K again shut up.
>>84231255Evil floret who is less evil now but only because being forced to stop talking about how traumatic their life used to be actually was, ironically a little traumatic. So now they’re quiet and their affini has trouble getting them to open up at all about basically anything.
>>84231304Class D's
>>84230891Evil feral that keeps talking about how much happier he was under the AccordThey tried to put him on class-Ds but he only started to rant about how miserable he is under the Compact
>>84231776Feral captured yesterday
flort thats so sleepy
>>84230995just going to make the sensitive affini even sadder
>>84233670NOOO! How can I cheer them up, I can't stand it when the plamt is sad!
Indie who woke up this morning with a bad hangover and their penis was missing again, this happens all the time, it's detachable...