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yearning for the mines edition

Talk about all things FVN here: Gay, straight, bara, twink, femboy, Western, Japanese, human MC, anthro MC - you name it.

>Pastebin
https://rentry.org/furryvn
>What is this pastebin?
This pastebin serves as a hub for compiling FVNs that we think are worth playing (or at least worth keeping an eye on) into lists.
>Who can contribute to the pastebin?
Anyone!

>Looking for something new or want to see what projects are out there?
https://fvn.li/

Last thread: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/84167777
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Never ever
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>>84248511
>GungsFwWYAApOIm (1)
>(1)
anon, it’s time to let go..
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>>84248524
Never forget.
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>>84248516
Nothing wrong with fat piggers, except for Roswell of course.
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>>84248633
To be fair, Joe was a bird and as far as LIs go those are suprisingly rare.

>>84249076
Can't say i liked the ending rewrite making Dave come off as as softer on him, i remember the first draft of it having Dave lay in him.
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>>84249076
Does he seriously have any redeeming qualities? Even yanderefags don't seem to excuse him like how they excuse someone like Leo.
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>>84249076
Nanoff’s pigger isn’t good
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>>84249452
Not really. Even his route kinda has him be a spoiled shitheel.

>>84249472
Joe sucks but he wouldn't try to murder Zoomer, Miles and everyone else in the cast.
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>>84249593
Doesn’t he punch boomer?
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>>84249610
Been a while since i read BMZ, but i don't think so?, but even if he did that's still not coldblooded murder.
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Hello again, /fvn/ Had a busy day, but got some writing done and now time to start on the May Wolf VNs. These are the top ones in the story department outside the first one, since I already did that. Not caring too much about doing them in order, so I will do what I feel like whenever. Starting with It's You Again and Again. I would also recommend reading them if you are even somewhat interested in them, since they tend to be short, and it is hard to talk about them without giving a lot of them away. With that out of the way, here is the review: https://rentry.org/f8o8vyfd

>>84249452
If he was a more engaging character maybe. It is a shame he is the mastermind because he sucks and his plan feels dumb from the start.
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Good night /fvn/
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>>84250243
Don't let the bedbugs bite.
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>>84249610
>>84249641
Supposedly it's because Boomer got into a fender bender (In the new comic nanoff's pushing out which the VN is supposed to tie into)
Catbox because 4chins:
https://files.catbox.moe/r3qaj0.png
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>>84250281
Tom is really racking up the himbo moments.
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>>84250346
I wish I had a Tom..
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>>84251205
Same.
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I feel like reviewsanon’s review from last thread was way off mark. Like are you really crying because people talked in a visual novel? Dude your quality has been dropping for a while now..
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>>84249593
I hate how he gave Joe that ugly beard.
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>>84253896
God, that's hot..
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>>84254211
There's more...
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Alright you worthless maggots write 100 words for your epic, awesome, legendary, cum inducing FVN script, then post a line by the end of the day, you got that? Surely, SURELY you're taking advantage of the long time lapses between my posts to work on your stuff, SURELY you don't need me to prod you into action... RIGHT?!?
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>>84255390
Oh no, you’re going to say mean words…
fuck off…
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Mmm, prod me~
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Imagine the smell…
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Otters>>>>>Lizards>Everything else>>>>>Trash Pandas
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>>84256583
Shut up Leo!
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>>84256583
Agreed
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>>84256583
Otterbros took away a cat protag in Polar's next game from me. I will never forgive them.
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>>84256583
Disagreed
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>>84256755
I think we hit a stage where Otters genuinely have started to overtake Housecats as MCs in gay FVNs. Mind you FVNs specifically, i think they are still going on on the wider game front and the straight/lesbian/bi one.
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>"Anon, I love you so much I'm finally gonna bottom for you!"
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Latest (Final i think) Devil's Gambit update is up on F95.
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>>84256977
>I think we hit a stage where Otters genuinely have started to overtake Housecats as MCs in gay FVNs.
Canines still mog both in that field.
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Why would you generate that?
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>>84257542
>stop doing things
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>>84257619
Yes, actually.
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>>84257472
It's the story climax but I remember them having an update pipeline for the last few updates and I think they intend to have one more build after this to close out the story.
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>>84257542
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>>84257873
I think he meant the literal Leo shitpost, not the survey and analysis that anon did.
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>>84258091
Ah, my mistake.
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3D Coop is almost complete, I gotta do the tail and make some adjustments to the face but other than that we're pretty much there
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I’m back! This route is rough, I think it’s one of the earlier written ones and it shows. The pacing and writing are really jumbled and I’m having a hard time understanding what’s going on at certain parts, mostly around day 3.
On night 2 Patrice and Joel find a church outside of the castle and have a talk about religion. Patrice tips his fedora as a proud atheist because if god does exist his unwillingness to act means he’s a shitty guy, also because his family tried to force it on him and religion hates the gays. Really weird for him to say that because on day 3 Patrice says his family were very accepting and supportive of him coming out after finding vaginas yucky. This confuses me
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>>84257652
Yeah just finished it i can see a couple of Denouement updates happening, i think it drew out some parts a bit much and played it too safe, didn't really care for the Eirnin stuff since i saw it coming on every level, it wasn't exactly subtle. That said there is still the actual fallout to deal with.

Naked Hector was cute though. ...Imagine the handjobs...
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>>84258420
read something good
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>>84258420
I can imagine it will be a rough ride since Patrice isn't exactly that likable even on other routes.
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>>84258540
Wolves, your god looks like this?
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>>84255390
>It was typical of [NAME] to pull out something bizarre out of his ass without much explanation. But it was not typical of him to eat his words.
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>>84257472
I gave it a read and while I liked it, I think the update before was more of a highlight. This one is more for the emotional payoffs and sometimes felt like a bit of a checklist. There was very little tension. I'm kind of more excited about what happens next with Hector, since after that there should be no way he gets to just walk away from all this. I doubt many people would take the excuse of his dad being a dick for trying to end the world.
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>>84260136
>I doubt many people would take the excuse of his dad being a dick for trying to end the world.
If you became a god and got the opportunity to do whatever you want to a world that exploited and treated you like shit your entire life, you'd do the exact same. Let's be real here.
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>>84258854
He really is a weird character
>calls himself a homo and sleeps around with guys
>only true love was a woman and only sleeps around because he’s afraid of skipping out on any potential chance at developing something further then physical attraction
>this has ruined friendships

Anyways night 3’s villain is magical mind fuck music that only Patrice can hear and he gets killed offscreen because it mostly took away his ability to feel fear. Joel saves him in the time reset by using the all powerful Talk no Jutsu, and then a ghost sacrifices itself to shield him from further fuckery. There’s a supposedly sad scene afterwards where the two find Nia’s ghost and Patrice gets to say his goodbyes but who really wants to fall for a guy who constantly glazes his ex every chance he gets? You’re only going to be constantly compared to them and nobody deserves that
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>>84260327
>>84260136
I'd say Hector has an "out" in that he was clearly being driven INTO the situation and that was hardly a secret.

The writing really does paint The Doctor as an BBEG antagonist, but i get the vibe he wasn't really in THEN LET THE WORLD BURN mode until he realized his hands (and therefore his purpose as a Eogans Masterpiece) was no longer possible. While Hector had good "compatibility" with The Eye, he was still a victim because its influence was something NEITHER of his selves wanted.

I also feel the Doctor is a bit of a liar and kinda posturing to Rian and Cadgan too though the whole confrontation, best shown by the fact he did try passing as Eogan at first. I get the vibe he is quite a lot like Rian. Especially considering both "Lost" their identity (Rian stopped being "Cadgan", The Doctor losing the ability to do magic means he stopped being Eogans masterpiece).

It's still a bit hard to put down due the schizo nature of it (Created when Hector was 4 but not manifesting until now), but i really feel that he is downplaying what he is and deliberately presented as a "Villain".

But yeah, for a climax it kinda felt like "Going though the motions" and ticking off a checklist.
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Cryptid dropped another blog post update
TL:DR Build almost guaranteed to drop next month

>Howdy Y'all! Just stopping by to give a bit of an update on how things are going. We're looking on track for things to most likely come out at some point next month, which is great! A bit faster than last time which is a really nice change. The script is almost all drafted out and I'm working on the final art assets now so, yay!


>Despite what I said in the last production update, this chapter might not be quite as long as I expected? We're currently at 26k words, with probably another 2-3k coming to finish, so not short by any means but still a bit shorter than usual. And with a lot to go through, I only hope it isn't too much!

>There's not too much else to say! I hope you like the previews I posted above and I hope to get something finished to y'all soon!

>Thanks! RYT would not exist without the support of my patrons, I mean that.
Till our roads cross again!

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART!?!?!
MORE TEA TIME WITH RHŶSS
MORE TEA TIME WITH RHŶSS
MORE TEA TIME WITH RHŶSS
MORE TEA TIME WITH RHŶSS

BEST DOG WINS *AGAIN*
TOTAL
AND
UTTER
MOGGING
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>>84261164
Also spooky footprints in snow CG, maybe some Rhŷss backstory or Tucker nightmare sequence?
Roads Yet Travelled's next update is looking peak
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>>84260633
Nobody cares
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>>84249803
Glad you enjoyed it, anon. It's got a pretty nice story and a very interesting concept. Definitely deserves its rank in the story category.
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[SPOILERS FOR FELL]

Yeah really, you *had* to do this on your friend's birthday? Way to make it all about yourself, I thought you were a cool nigga Arrow, you disappoint me
>5 minutes later
NO NO NO NO NO FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU WHY HIM, WHY, WHHYYYYYYYYYY
God damn it I know we've only seen Mack for a few minutes but, fuck man, this is like The Lion King all over again, to be able to make you the reader give a shit about someone in so little time is a skill, plus come on he looks adorable how could you not love that face? So handsome, so reassuring.
Bit of a strange coincidence that Arrow was meaning to depart right on the same day he proposed they leave together for the big city. The notice is just too short, although what involvment could a barely legal farmer kid possibly have with a town's razing? Yeah it doesn't make sense, it's just my paranoia messing with me. Or maybe Arrow's father had a tip somehow and told his son to get out of dodge? Maybe he's involved in this conspiracy? Hmm...

Anyway you wanna know the best part? This FVN has as much a pulse as Mack! YAYYY DEAD FVNs BAYBAY. Shame, this one did hook me and I absolutely would have liked to see more, the art is great and the writing is good. Still have to check out the "secret route" however so thankfully I still have some juice left I can squeeze out of this lovely FVN, a whole hour and change long too, not bad at all. I'll read it tomorrow, it's getting late
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>>84262268
>Bit of a strange coincidence that Arrow was meaning to depart right on the same day he proposed they leave together for the big city
*bit of a strange coincidence that the town got rekt on the same day, I was meaning to say
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>the following day from the blowjob scene
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>>84262595
>Todd topping
lol, no
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>>84262595
sauce?
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>>84264893
badshep
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>can I have sex with the softboy yeen?
>>No, you cant' (yet)
>ok? how about the oldman yeen?
>>Sorry, but you can't.
>how about th-
>>the tranny
>...what?
>>have sex with the tranny yeen
Why?
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>>84261164
>MORE TEA TIME WITH RHŶSS
Booooooooring
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>>84267901
To be honest as someone who dropped that shit i can't say hearing about that, kinda figured as much would be the case. It gave me the same vibes as Dawn Chorus did.
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>Unmarried in his late thirties in spite of a high status job.
>"Resnick, Allow me to tell you about my sexual history, and the time your Big Brother was publicly humiliated in a sexual manner that i for some reason remember in vivid detail."
GAYrret.
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>>84267901
They baited you with old man yeen sex so fucking hard only to railroad you onto a pooner trauma dump.
There are bad vn's, but that one is actually evil.
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>>84272486
He does have big erojiji energy, doesn't he?
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>>84267901
Kah simply tricked people into his magical realm.
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>>84273972
Yeah, i get the same vibe from him as i do from Edward from HAS, only that Garret isn't a failure or EVIL.

I think Garret kinda just wants to be a "Cool Mentor" first and foremost, he absolutely strikes me as the type who refused promotions and recognition so he could stay in his current role. I would not be surprised if there is a "reveal" he either was in the same unit as or trained Grandmaster Alistair. Brigham clearly respects him.
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>>84255390
You know the drill: 100 new words and post a line. Go go go go!
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>>84275375
lol, no
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>>84267901
Wasn't this the VN with an anti-ICE message or something?
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>>84267901
I just stay away from any person who unironically uses the term "yeen" because I know their life has no value at all
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>>84279315
Yeah, I kind of dislike any "cutesy" name for animals. Yeen, doggo, noodle dragon, etc...
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>>84278872
Among other things, I'll be fair and say even before that was relevant it was obvious it was gonna take that kind of stance with the "EMPIRE BAD" shit right from the first update, so i don't think it was entirely a kneejerk.

Doesn't mean it is good though, just that if you had a nose you could smell the bullshit about to get pushed out ahead of time.
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.
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When was the last time you felt truly invested in a VN? Like to the point where you couldn't stop reading it, and you absolutely needed to know what happens next?
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>>84282208
Pirahus and Aftersoul both did that for me.
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>>84282258
Aftersoul’s not a vn
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>>84282456
Neither is Pirahus arguably.
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>>84282208
Griseus and Ode to the Heroes.
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>>84283569
>Griseus
What’s so good about it?
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>>84284403
I like the art, atmosphere and noir aestethic, and the main couple's dynamic. I can't shake a sneaking suspicion there's gonna be a twist regarding Wayne, but all in all I'm interested in seeing how this little tale wraps up.

I like its depiction of psycho-horror too.
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>>84284496
>pic
Average yandere be like.
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Went with Pyrena for the next May Wolf game I'm doing. The style of the game is nice with a lot of animation. I think the story is good with some sour spots. Like it tries to just kind of insert things like the villain is a cop or the best friend is a they that wants to cut her breasts off. Guess the only character you get to see without a shirt? It does have good horror moments and the best parts are largely when those get to be shown off instead of the dialogue itself a lot of the time. But when it is at its best, it makes the sour taste in my mouth in some scenes not matter as much and even if I would just kind of cut them, it didn't end up ruining it for me. While the monster also feels like a metaphor for his regrets and guilt. It just kind of attacks him and fucks off after he lets go anyway. I think it is worth a read even with all that, because it has a pretty good presentation if nothing else.

>>84261164
It is going to be interesting to see how it follows up the best update it had.

>>84261597
I like the idea of having people be bound together no matter what. Not really the first time I'm seen it, but it is a sweet concept even if the way it works in It's You Again and Again is more bittersweet.

>>84282499
You could argue that, but it feels like pointlessly splitting hairs. VNs can have game play and I haven't played Aftersoul, but it would be silly not to count Pirahus as a FVN.
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>>84285595
My guess for Build 11
>We wake up in Rhŷss' office room, dazed and confused. He explains the Maeron went out of control and he forced Tyr to shut it down out of concern for Tucker's safety. He does reveal that he noticed Tucker's reaction to the Maeron and that Söknoss readings revealed it brought him here specifically. For what reason, Söknoss wishes to know, since Tucker could very well be the key to their goals. They have some tea and Tucker calms down enough and maybe there's a dialogue option to put trust in Rhŷss or to decline seeing him again. Either way, we exit scene.
>Then back at our room we get the dog of choice and their panicky reaction, "Are you okay!? I couldn't get in touch with you", etc. etc. They get distrustful of Rhŷss for exposing you to such danger and tell you to stay away from now on, any backfire or heat they catch won't matter, they'll protect you instead. Tucker reciprocates the caring gesture but wonders if he can find answers himself.
>Next day, we are unceremoniously dropped off at the library because whaddya know, another emergency for our caretaker. Tucker thinks this is the perfect time to look through research for answers, but oh no, lore cocktease interrupted, Ark arrives and introduces us to the mysterious robot we saw last time. We exchange greetings and contact info after the usual "I'm not a harmful alien I promise" and Tucker wanders around the library for a bit, maybe Ark reads and translates a few books for Tucker to understand.
>Rest of the build is probably another guardian dog scene before ending, Marruk going "Maybe I should trust you more", Rhoun "Maybe you should trust me more", Marrow "Maybe Paytr would be a better caretaker for you"
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>>84285595
>and I haven't played Aftersoul
If you ever need a break from terrible FVNs or just playing May Wolf games, I'd say try it. I'm curious as to what your thoughts would be.
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>>84285905
It feels like a very reasonable expectation of the update. I'm hoping based on the very end that we get some information on what might have happened to earth. Something I have been curious about since the phone scene. It seems to suggest that Tucker is in the future and might not have a home to return to. No matter if it is a dream, vision, or he really pops over there for a short while.

>>84286074
I had it on my radar and forgot. I can do it after I do that last three May Wolf games I was planning on since I don't have anything pressing after it currently. The version of the game I have most likely has to be updated anyways.
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>>84286971
Hey reviewanon, how objective do you try to be with your reviews? I've been noticing lately that I tend to enjoy stuff without thinking too much about stuff like writing issues or quality. Because of that, I find it hard to be super objective and just give my personal opinions whenever I'm reviewing something, but I feel like that might not be enough, or I'm being too soft on the VN.
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>>84285905
>Marrow "Maybe Paytr would be a better caretaker for you"
Paytr's dirty manlet paws wrote this.
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>>84289153
All the reviews suck. The moonlight castle one, the far beyond the world one, the fell one, all of them
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>>84289368
No need to exaggerate, bud.
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>>84289182
You're Eyedamn right I did! Senno's an airheaded klutz who couldn't watch a pup if it was strapped to him!
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>>84290480
No lies detected.
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I will read RYT once Cryptid gives us some proper Tyr NSFW
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s00s
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>>84290749
I just want more Tyr in general. He is interesting.
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>>84290480
He's the best side character in the VN besides Mylo but I can't stand the guy's piercings.
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>>84285905
Marruk looks tired as shit here.
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>>84294353
I would be too if I was spending all my time tard wrangling a bunch of supposed scientists
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Would you love to top LI or characters that pretend to be be top only ?
I do
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Reading Santa Lucia. Doing Carlos route. Got to the actual sex scene. I have never witnessed an 8/10 LI go to absolute 0/10 and an otherwise okay MC go to cuckold loser in one scene so fucking fast
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>>84295537
Didn't like him revealing himself as a squeaky voiced bottom?
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>>84295113
>Would you love to top LI or characters that pretend to be be top only ?
This is basically the whole point of Kounosuke's ero scene.
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>>84295584
>I fuck every man I see except you until now, they all know I'm gay but you didn't, strangers I hook up with at a moment's notice know more about me than you
>omg that's so hot can I get involved while you continue fucking every man you meet? Also tell me about all the other men you've fucked while I'm fucking you
>lol ok
Why are homosexuals such cuckolds
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>>84295658
Thanks for clairfying anon, I should probably reread Santa Lucia, i mostly remember laughing at the fact Carlos was a SLUUUT who basically went "Condom?" and dying doing a random hookup while working during one vision, Not the MC going all "THAT'S HOT" about it or Carlos sex life being all that discussed during the scene at all.
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>>84289153
You have earned one ramble: https://rentry.org/z5m3u695
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>>84295813
>my favorite fvn is Morenatsu
ew
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>>84296085
I mean, it makes sense and he doesn't say it is a masterpiece and admits it is due the emotional attachments.

I consider Juuichis route is deeply flawed in a Narrative sense, but it gave anon what he wanted, standing around in silence with his Bear LI in the Lo-fi beats and rain, so it makes sense he'd have it as his favorite. Not like he is trying to claim that Adastra has "well written politics" to glaze it because he wanna fuck Amicus Imperial Hole or something like that.
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>>84296366
Shut up, there’s nothing wrong with Juuichi’s route
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there's plenty wrong with his route
without love it cant be seen
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>>84296492
That's the "problem", the closest thing to a conflict (GAY IS A DISEASE!) is resolved offscreen by another character while MC just suklks in his room, that's why i can get why anon likes it,. even though i, who like to see plots unfold in what i read consider it flawed for doing that. Juuichi is either "Feel-good" or SHED, but for how meme'd Shed is it is really just a short Bad End that has "Potential" as Doujinbait.

Doesn't mean Juuichi himself is bad though, of course, just that you can kinda tell the project was already losing steam when he had his route added, especially with things like the Twin brother and what not.

>>84296578
I still think it did some things right too.
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>>84296492
Juuichi is wrong with his route, what a boring shitty bear.
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>>84295813
>my favorite fvn is Morenatsu
This post has been fact-checked by real Morenatsu patriots (TRUE)
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>>84296085
This really shouldn't be a shock to anyone since I have already mentioned it many times before. I never really hid I've been a huge Juuichifag.

>>84296366
I find his route to be very sweet with a lot of romantic moments. It also helps that it was the first FVN me and a lot of other people read. While I think it is also interesting that he has a complex about being gay, the time skip to the resolution is a huge flaw in the whole thing. I really wish it had more time and maybe a perspective switch if needed They also could have used his brother then.

>>84296492
I think it is better to embrace flaws over pretending they don't exist. Juuichi is still my #1 and that didn't change when I thought harder about it.
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/fvn/ sort of laws:
All tigers are related to Torahiko
All tigers are sluts
Torahiko is /fvn/ and FVN (in general) mascot
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>>84298557
Nah, nigga’s route isn’t even finished. /fvn/ belongs to Leo, you’re in a canine world fggt.
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>>84298557
Someone crucify this pagan heretic right now
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>>84298557
>After Class version
Get that mullett cut at the barber, Tora!
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>>84298557
Canine world, canine thread.
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>>84299675
jimothy type torso
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>>84299675
me sitting on the toilet for a half hour because I'm constipated and the turd won't drop already
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>>84295537
>>84295658
I fucking love Carlos but even I have to say that scene was so offputting. Even past the cucking memes it really was just the vn dropping numerous bombshells in a row about him that made me go “what the fuck”.
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>>84289368
>the fell one
Nani, surely he didn't have anything bad to say about it right? I loved that FVN, it had some Narnia fable vibes to it I really dug. I especially liked how... Innocent the characters were in that one, it's a nice palate cleanser from all the bitter dick heads you otherwise do tend to see and if you're really unfortunate interact with

>>84295813
>An FVN where this comes up so much and feels like it is so much it takes me out of it would be a FVN like Under Haven
Damn it, really? I have yet to pop that one open but it's strange a cyberpunk novel which it claims to be would put enphasis on that? Maybe there's a perfectly explained in-universe reason for trannies being there or be that pivotal but you make it sound like that's not the case.
But otherwise yes, I remember this discussion we had a while back, I'm that guy who said he drops reviews only on things he likes, so they're all positive, while I don't review the ones I didn't. That's all a result of projection on my part, because I'm a massive pussy with huge self esteem issues I expect other creators to be that way too. And also the fact I may have been unfortunate with meeting other creators who don't take kindly to criticism anyway anyhow, maybe it's just been me who worded my thoughts poorly, couldn't tell you, it's been years since I actually last spoke to a furry creator with even a hint of criticism. In an ideal world, critics would be delicate but poignant and artists receptive and levelheaded, but as we both know we don't live in an ideal world
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>>84298557
>Torahiko is /fvn/ and FVN (in general) mascot
Tsk tsk tsk that would be Alvy, we Lust Shards GODS have claimed dominion upon this general. Your time is up boomers, kneel to us and we might allow you to continue your Torahiko worship if you beg hard enough
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>>84301562
The anon is bitching about 3 different people’s reviews.
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>>84301562
>Damn it, really? I have yet to pop that one open but it's strange a cyberpunk novel which it claims to be would put enphasis on that? Maybe there's a perfectly explained in-universe reason for trannies being there or be that pivotal but you make it sound like that's not the case.
A friend of the MC comes back as a tranny. She then gets time spent as her and the spend a lot of time going over the typical gender nonsense. It gets to be a lot and I'm pretty sure there is a scene where the gay MC gets hard by her to affirm her gender. It became too much for me to keep going with it.
>I'm that guy who said he drops reviews only on things he likes, so they're all positive, while I don't review the ones I didn't. And also the fact I may have been unfortunate with meeting other creators who don't take kindly to criticism anyway anyhow, maybe it's just been me who worded my thoughts poorly, couldn't tell you, it's been years since I actually last spoke to a furry creator with even a hint of criticism. In an ideal world, critics would be delicate but poignant and artists receptive and levelheaded, but as we both know we don't live in an ideal world
I feel like the problem is that creative people are too used to positivity. They no longer can take criticism. If you only want to talk about the good, that is your right. But if you feel like you have been muted by creators not taking what you said well, that is a shame and 4chan give you a chance to talk about it without it being traced to you. It is freeing in a way. Even if it does sometimes very rarely end up in the lap of the creator like with the Under Haven thing that I can only assume someone fed it to the creator. I still don't regret what I said one bit and it is too paralyzing to never say anything bad in fear of pushback. I said the no-no word and I'll fucking do it again is the attuite I have. I'm not talking with them face to face so I can embrace being a bit bombastic for a point.
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https://zeeleafs.itch.io/autumnwood
New FVN dropped some 3 weeks ago, any of you niggaz tried it? Of course you didn't, none of you mothafuckaz ITT actually READS

>>84301796
I have to thank the anon who spammed that Swift reaction image for thinking of him everytime circumcision scars are mentioned. It also feels good to have an intact penis
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>>84302575
>https://zeeleafs.itch.io/autumnwood
Woooooowwwww holy shit I'm not even joking when I'm telling you people I already finished it. What the fuck was that, that wasn't even a minute! Way, waaaayyyy too short. Some guy reminesces about helping his BF cover up a murder scene, skipping town, going around the country blah blah blah it's taking me more time to write this post than it would take for you to read it, but I wouldn't even consider that worth it since there's pretty much nothing there. What a pointless upload, a FVN needs a lot more meat to it than that to warrant putting out there, this is way too premature
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>>84302699
See now *THIS* is a review worth reading. Short, to the point, and succinctly about the visual novel itself without any personal storytelling nonsense.
Take fucking notes, Reviewanon.
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bump btw
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>>84302806
But why
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>>84302557
>it is too paralyzing to never say anything bad in fear of pushback
I know this all too well, at the same time it's not even worth it to go all out, be open with these people with the thoughts you may have: even if you worded them in the most respectful way possible they would still treat you like a piece of shit for even daring to speak up. It's just not worth it, you said it best when you said creatives are too used to positivity
>4chan give you a chance to talk about it without it being traced to you. It is freeing in a way.
One of the biggest saving graces of this doggy poo doo doo site, I would legit go insane if I had to pretend to enjoy this odious 1+1=3 culture that has festered in mainstream circles
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>>84302804
We can have both anon-kun, I don't mind reviewanon's more elaborate musings
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>>84303007
Better than the bad route anon’s shit
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>>84303029
Must be true
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>>84295813
Thanks for the response, Anon. I feel like I better understand where you're coming from.
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Heart of Amethyst updated
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>>84306570
What the fuck are they feeding those dogs up there
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>>84306725
I have a theory that Lyeo's main planet has a very large population of cetaceans in its seas, so those dogs eat whale blubber three times a day.
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>>84306583
>it's real
Now all we need is a Home Zomewhere Else update.
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>>84306570
Rhoun looks so friendly and unassuming, I want to corrupt him with sex.
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My hot take this week: There should be a male wheelchair Love Interest in an FVN. Just make him a dog or a wolf and make him an independent style guy who hates being given help but he slowly warms up to you
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>>84307799
>There should be a male wheelchair Love Interest in an FVN.
Kostya-

>Just make him a dog or a wolf and make him an independent style guy who hates being given help but he slowly warms up to you
Oh. That could be interesting, yeah.
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>>84307919
>Kostya
That’s not a love interest, that’s a bull
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>>84308025
Lmao
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>>84308025
He loves MC too, he's basically the top of the trouple now.
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>>84308025
>>84308939
He loves both Wallace and Lucas, so for all intents and purposes he's a love interest. He also solves the critical problem of both Lucas and Wallace being bottoms.
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>>84299997
Nikko pls...
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>>84309000
>>84308939
>advocating for throuples
disgusting
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>>84310465
You're just mad you can't pull any bitches.
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>>84307799
If FVNs started out in the 90s, there definitely would be some token wheelchair LI.
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>"..."
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>>84308025
It's fine if the bull is hot
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>>84312263
But he’s in a wheelchair..
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>>84307919
>Kostya
I didn't get that far since reading VM feels like drudging through molasses if you're the kind of guy who doesn't feel that strongly about SoL, but I did see the CG... And God DAYUM, VM has some killer art in that regard, shame it's such a tough read. Someone needs to make a heavily edited version of VM to cut all the unnecessary fat, imagine how great that would be
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>>84313158
Or just skip to the sex since that’s all you seen to want
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>>84313175
Not at all, I do read VNs mostly for the story, sex is a bonus, it's just that VM's style in particular feels really "clogged", I don't know how to describe it. Other VNs had a really flowing pace to it that made me lose track of time, while with VM you *feel* every minute. I take issue with every inconsequential little detail being painstakingly described, so when I say it could be edited I mean that by removing those VM would, I believe, be much more fluid and enjoyable to read. To a wider audience anyway, those who are sticking with this VN the way it is are built differently let me tell you that
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>>84313259
You could have shortened this reply to 1 sentence why didn't you
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>>84313489
Because fuck you and suck my cock?
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>>84314575
Get away from my fucking wife you stupid loser bandwolf.
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>>84314589
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>>84314740
But anon, Kouya is a Husky and Shun is the wolf, so clearly Anon is telling Shun to get away from Kouya. :^)
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>>84314800
What straight VN is that?
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>>84314853
None, it's just fanart of Neil from TSR.
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>>84314873
Lame
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>>84314873
Each time I hear from TSR some new Patreon babby has been added to it.
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>>84315687
That’s not a patreon baby though
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>>84315687
I don't think Neil is a Patreon Babby, just a standard side character. Plus i actually do like his character concept since he is basically the whole "Secretly Gay Politician" meme. There IS one incoming next update, or he was added last one.
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>>84313259
The dialogue and narration are very repetitive. Just trying to read Oscar's route had me wondering how many times are we going to reaffirm that yes he's a flirt, yes he'd love to crack Wallace until the bed broke, and yes we understand he's super careful about boundaries.

There's also that constant commentary from Wallace about boundaries in a way, and I've seen it in other works. The whole "the LI looks troubled, but I know he won't tell me if I pry so I won't" kind of narration that leaves me scratching my head. Like we as the reader need reassurance that the characters are doing their best to be as polite and non-confrontational as possible.
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>>84315749
Whoa, a Shiny William
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>>84314876

>>84315749
Isn’t Trey like a self insert or OC from a patreon baby to be Kane’s BF (bad idea btw) ?
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>>84313158
>>84313259
I'm fine with VM how it is, but that's probably because I can tolerate long stretches in FVNs were nothing happens or where it's mostly quiet moments so long as they aren't extremely poorly written. For me, it just makes the anticipation of the sex scenes even better.
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>>84314873
Forgot to add but this guy participated to Jim’s bachelor parties, Isn’t it ?
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>>84316421
Trey is a guy who been selfshipping with Kane and William for years, since well before the Sex scene/"Kane is actually a bastard" reveal. I think technically he ain't in due being a Patron/Subscriber and more due being one of Georges friends now. I think his current mindset on Kane is more "I hate that i still think is hot when he's an asshole!" if i remember descriptions the art he done since right.

>>84316455
Yeah, he is only on Murdoch's route, he comes in to be a Bestman at the wedding together with the Fatcat Doctor, They have sex during the Bachelor Party and then Sam can basically sell himself to either him or the Cat for him to make a silver coin to bribe Blythe into guiding them out of Town.

Which is why i don't mind their sex scenes relatively speaking, they are written with Sam being a prostitute and not giving out freebies and both of them want to be downlow.
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>>84317396
I didn't know Sam was guest starring in RYT
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>>84317412
Murdoch's too!
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>>84317396
>>84318031
It's so nice to see americans getting some representation!
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>>84318981
Even though i read the other routes i think Nik practically already won, even if he deserved better then Sam and Yao being tacked on is a demerit.
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Which character archetypes do you hate the most in FVNs? Girlbosses, whiny protagonists bitching about adulting, etc. etc.
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>>84319633
the developers
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>>84319633
Girlboss has my vote. Jenna is probably the ur-example, but even she's tame compared to most.
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>>84319633
I know this is a question about "what archetype you hate," but I want to take this to talk about the one I love. I don't know what kind of person Edwin is, but I love his high energy and openness. Every moment where he says something no normal person would say is my favorite.

I'd love more VNs where we get such a "life-of-the-party" guy who's open about himself and says these sexy things out of nowhere. Anyone know of any VNs with a character that makes them think of Edwin?
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>>84319633
I can't actually say Girlbosses because they CAN be cool/interesting/wellwritten.

"Shill Character" might be the way to put it for me. Where the Dev tries way too hard to push a character as "Cool", "Smart" or "Powerful" or make you pick the character as a route with guilt tripping and the character is treated as being above morality and consequences and that it is "cool" that they shit on characters that already endeared themselves to me, or the character literally only exists to deliver rants from the author.

The Venn Diagram just overlaps HARD on a lot of the "Girlbosses" in popular gay stuff.

>>84320868
I'd just classify Ed as a "Slutty Himbo", there is more then that to him of course, but Archetypes are simplifications. So i'd say Nathan from Beastly Bonds? It is a Clicker though. I'd say Nathan would basically be "what if Ed got lust instead of Resnick".
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>>84319633
I honestly can't narrow it down. I don't really attribute any particular archetype as being "bad", because I think any archetype can serve its niche well when written well.

Best I can only say I'm more or less apathetic to some, like the mysterious transfer student type characters or the pompous popular guy.

>>84320868
Edwin's pretty much a party jock, or frat guy. Loves working out, drinking, rather spend time goofing off rather than working. He just has the bare minimum required brain cells to take situations seriously.

The rich kid background even fits, but I can't recall anyone else as lovable as Edwin right now.
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>>84321045
>Training
Holy shit I need to see his sex toy collection. I just love how casual he is saying all that, fuck!
>>84321085
>The rich kid background even fits, but I can't recall anyone else as lovable as Edwin right now.
Interesting. Do you think it's Edwin's energy that makes him loveable? I'd say it's probably how he's positive and looking forward to being around others that makes him magnetic.
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>>84321382
>Do you think it's Edwin's energy that makes him loveable?
Unironically, I think it's because he's an adult and largely treated as one. With his archetype, it's very easy to have his boisterous personality be a mask for some trauma or shortcoming but no that's just how Edwin is. We're not really given any reason to think he's not just trying to enjoy his life as best he can, however he wants.

He has his troubles and worries as much as anyone, but nothing that I'd consider detrimental to his usual vibe. As I mentioned, he's introspective enough to support his more frivolous exploits and understand not go completely overboard (so far).



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