indie whose sort of scared of the thunder and the loud rain sounds. but it's okay, theyre really brave, and they'll be, um, fine. it's fine.

>>84352834
who's. who is. indie who knows how to spell!!

>>84352878
meanieffini gramarnazi!!!!!!!!

>>84352878
Poor indie with a missing shift key :(

>>84352834
indie who isn’t scared of thunder or loud rain except for one really really loud boom that scares the fuck out of them but it’s fine they have a blanket to cower under they don’t need comfort or reassurance or love or to be snuggled and given pure love through biorhythm. they don’t need that it’s fine. they’re fine. it woke them up out of a sound sleep and they have really bad trouble going back to sleep after stuff like that. and they have to pee but they’re too scared to get out of bed. but that’s fine. they’ll be okay.
>>84353458
it’s supposed to signify more casual intent than including formal punctuation so it’s like the indie is in fact scared and typing quickly with no time to capitalize everything alright and use all the correct punctuation.

Asking for a floret cut of the Nolan odyssey where I get to see Calypso drug and rape Odysseus a whole bunch and then complain when Athena gets tried of that and sends Hermes to stop her.

>>84354556
I forgot about boobs

>>84354797
Florets who forget about boobs until bathtime comes around, when they get to rediscover them all over again.

>>84354797
What if I want plommy to have boobs is that ok

>>84355932
squished under massive mistress cleavage as she lays on you and sticks her tongue down ur throat

>>84357163
Hoooooooooooooot

>>84357534
whenever you get upset or cry or yell or act feralist she just Squishes you. naughty pets get put in tittyjail!!

Quadrupedal Affini with crotchboob nectarmilk glands, and yes she expects you to nurse from her

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>>84352683
do anyone know stories in wich one becomes an anthro? i am also interested in feminization, breastfeeding and sex, though the later is way harder to get though because HDG is an asexual universe by default

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>>84355537
fuck that sounds real nice, it makes you remember that you are slowly becoming a girl. the process must be a blessing

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>>84352683
what does the florets of this board think of this?

https://youtu.be/YJJjbK4bUpY?is=_8LLtinjQosIbHL7

>>84358789
not falling for that, weed

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>>84358846
what about this one?:3

https://youtu.be/yGUZfrYSY4I?is=yOgNGb_1ZA0KV9nX

>>84358879
LEAVE ME BE

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>>84358892
you're so cute and squishy:3

https://youtu.be/kTzpCLjAzYg?is=QgpAaxW-CKGmAgrd

>>84358789
Gooood sounds...

>>84358935
ngghgggnngnh...,.

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snugglesnuggle

>>84359020
feral whose mistress broke them with this. like literally just this,. she gently cozily snuggled the feralism right out of them

Fucking pissed. Absolutely livid. The weeds have filled the lake at the floret park right next to my hab with giant, friendly sturgeon that love to be pet I ain't fucking going to no damn "floret park" fuck off weeds.

>>84359799
ooooh you wanna pet the sturgeon so baaaaad

>>84359799
There are cute, friendly fishies desperate for pets going without because of your selfishness, anon.

radical left floret. floret who is a radical left lunatic. floret who hates god, the bible, the constitution and america. woke transgender floret....

>>84360125
Uhhh...
Ummm...
Uhhhh...
You gotta be more specific nona thats like...
All of em...

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>>84359020
this could break me

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>>84360125
>>84360212
i am a good god-loving conservative and transphobe floret. i leashed out against trans people all my life, but i never though at the end, i would become a girl myself...

>>84360509
>i am
Was.
>lashed out against trans people all my life... became a girl myself
Common repper experience.

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>>84360529
noo,,, i am still a conservative chudderino, i just have soft bubbly breast now,,,,,,

>>84360791
sorry, buddy. you're a woke moralist now. get used to it

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>>84360804
b-but i voted for trump,,, nnnghhhh

tranny who would rather lie in bed all day than read anything or do anything at all(its me)

>>84361531
Bed rotting!!!

>>84360529
>Common repper experience.
NTA but i used to be a transphobic retard until i basically got oneshotted by the girl beam completely out of nowhere. i blame the CIA.
i didnt really understand why transgender women were often so depressed. now i do!
what would the plants do with me

>>84361767
Love you forever and ever and help you be your very best self!

>>84361767
For me it was more like knowing I had this issue but being transphobic to justify repping to myself. "I'm better than those freaks because I won't give in" etc., or just hating the culture. Yeah turns out that doesn't last you forever. I do think it's funny as hell though that I like the forcefem plant mommy drugged sex setting when half the reason I kept repping as an adult was because of how much I hated west coast transbian hedonist polycule culture so bad and didn't want to end up like that.

>>84361922
>I do think it's funny as hell though that I like the forcefem plant mommy drugged sex setting when half the reason I kept repping as an adult was because of how much I hated west coast transbian hedonist polycule culture so bad and didn't want to end up like that
...are you me?

>>84361972
Growing up as a repressed millennial sucks, eh?

Nobody bothered me while I was petting the sturgeons

>>84362538
That's good to hear. The sturgeons will look on you favourably now.

>>84362538
see? you're not going to get in trouble, little love. feel free to go back and play with them as much as you like, okay?

>>84361787
well that sounds nice.....

>>84362538
Explain the sturgeon thing to me. I saw the part where they put them in the pond, but why sturgeons? I know koi like to be pet, never heard of sturgeons doing it.

>>84362871
I went to the big aquarium in Chicago once and they had a sturgeon petting exhibit. I think that they're just sort of docile and tolerant of people

>>84362871
I'm gonna be real with you, I just saw a Tumblr post about pettable sturgeons and it stuck in my mind

>>84361922
i got roped into a transbian polycule for a little while before i had to move to do my phd. was pretty fun, all in all, they were nice people. i think the only major inconvenience was that whenever someone got the cold or whatever it would inevitably spread to... everyone... i didn't enjoy having to take a week off work because i got the flu in july.

>>84363056
I'm just very disgusted by polygamy or casual sex. Some of that is down to upbringing, some to personal beliefs about relationships, some down to germaphobia (which I feel is extremely justified with uncurable STDs like HIV and herpes going around everywhere.)

>>84363232
well, i guess everyone has their own hangups... as long as you don't make it other peoples' problem.
the germaphobia thing is fair lol. they were very strict about std testing specifically though, i don't remember that ever being a problem.

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>>84363056
ew, get the fuck out of my thread you senseless vapid homosexual nigger
>>84363232
this. i never believed that poly people in any way were able to love. i think poly relationships only work in fantasy

>>84363319
you are in the vapid homosexual nigger thread retard

mistress who calls you a niggerfaggot

>>84363319
Imagine having like 5 fuckbuddies, but you live together and fuck eachother all the time.

>>84362871
Theres a lot of waterbound frens that enjoy pets, sturgeons are among the coolest looking and least evolved.

>>84363739
Imagine how unhygienic that is.

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>>84363739
but what about love?

>>84358789
oh lol I thought this was going to be some kind of binaural subliminal thing, and then it's just sigur ros

>>84363771
If you wash regularly it isn't much worse than monogamy.

>>84363872
Love is the easy part, it starts with being able to appreciate each other as friends, then you add features and open-ness to that idea of friendship until you can say you're all more than friends.
Obviously its a process, but all love is the process of dedicating yourself and time to others.

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>>84352683
i hate the haustoric implant. i understeand how is it appealing when it comes to things like loss of identity and whatnot but i think putting a machine in the spine of the floret to have total control over his inner being, thoughs and endocrine system is going way too far. the haustoric implant is basically a god-mode atribute in form of a parasyte. i think is more appealing when affini use their own biology like biorythm or how xenodrugs exist within the affini saliva/breastmilk/cum that make the relationship between the affini and the floret conditional to nature, not forced by wacky machinary. i think using more biological purposes instead of machines makes the whole thing way more loving

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>>84363957
>love is the easy part, it starts with being able to appreciate each other as friends, then you add features and open-ness to that idea of friendship until you can say you're all more than friends.
Obviously its a process, but all love is the process of dedicating yourself and time to others


this sounds very nice and comfy, but again it is still friendship, not romantic love

>>84364095
the haustoric implant is flagship, it's part and parcel with hdg... if you don't like it then you just like generic powerplay/petplay, not hdg

>>84363957
Everyone knows polygamy falls apart horribly in real life.

>>84364095
Affini are already very biomechanical, I always thought of the haustoric as at least genetically unique to a given Affini or partially. Like putting one of her vines into your spine.

>>84364170
What about love could make it exclusive to one person? You only believe that because it's the norm of the society you were raised in. 'Love' doesn't have an absolute - or even consensus-defined - definition that restricts it to one person.
If you don't want to/can't love more than one person that's fine, but don't act like it's not possible.

>>84364170
The difference between friendship and romantic love is doing romantic things, it may not be as a complete unit, but you can still do romantic things together. You can have deeply personal and unique connections with every member, the polygamy of it comes it understanding those connections are a web as opposed to a singular bond.

>>84364190
shut up nigga

>>84364265
it is not posible
>>84364334
you may like that person and be atracted to it sure, but is not love

>>84364369
y

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>>84364095
Yeah the haustoric implant is my least favorite part of the process too. I'm aware how it's used can vary, but a lot of the time it feels like it's the point where they stop being an autonomous pet and become just an extension of the Affini. I understand that's attractive to some, but not really me. Being able to apply xenodrugs whenever and feeling where the Floret is is one thing, hell even being able to read their thoughts is whatever, it's the bit where it can control and induce thoughts outright that I have a problem with. If the Affini injects you with Class-Cs and you megabond with her that's hot, if the Affini just signals to the implant to make you think loving thoughts about her that's boring and violating in an unfun way.

>>84364235
When it isn't handled carefully, it isn't more inherently vulnerable, because there multiple connections between multiple people, but nothing about those bonds are inherently weaker than monogamous bonds. And monogamous bonds fall apart constantly, sometimes people simply fall out of love, its as much a thing as them falling in it.
In a carefully maintained and dedicated web of relationships, that shouldn't happen, but that doesn't eliminate it as a possibility.

>>84364404
you guys are such whiners. if there were no haustoric pethood wouldn't be irreversible, which would be lame and not hot at all

>>84364400
what is pic related?:3

>>84364369
You are now just being entirely resistant to the concept, which isn't inherently a flaw, but it does mean this isn't an argument.

>>84364433
Haustorics implants made from different affinis' core grafts!

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>>84364404
>Yeah the haustoric implant is my least favorite part of the process too. I'm aware how it's used can vary, but a lot of the time it feels like it's the point where they stop being an autonomous

exactly! i dont have a problem when it comes to adding drone fetish to /HDG/, i just dont feel that should be a general rule or considered the "ultimate affini scientific pinnacle"

>if the Affini just signals to the implant to make you think loving thoughts about her that's boring and violating in an unfun way.

yes, as i said, is a god-mode atribute wich makes the whole thing boring and it works as a switch, because usually in HDG things are very gradual, you start as a feralist who hates affini only to be cuddled and nurtured against your will till you become a mindless cutie creature. with the haustoric implant, basically you are forever wired to the affiini in a instant, instead of being a loose slow process of nurturing with xenodrugs and soft bubbly petplay. losing your dependency is hot, but losing your identity is fucked up

>>84364619
??? the implant is not 'drone fetish' what are you on?? any floret in any fic you read has had a haustoric put in

You guys need to read more of HDGs body of work, you surely wouldn't be mischaracterizing a core tenet of the setting this badly if you were engaging with the fic

>>84364369
Don't worry anon, these girls have never had a stable relationship last longer than 4 months, the polycule culture shit has convinced them this is the best they can get.

>>84364441
i understeand how love exist as an open emotion, but i have been in love, and the heartbreak took 8 years to heal, still on the process. i dont think you can feel the same thing for several people at the same time. basically because there is a limit for the human brain when it comes to our relationship with people. you can be atracted to several people in a sexual and romantic way, but never love them like you would love someone who you want to spend your life with. basically the brain cannot process all these relationships at the same time

again, talking about this is always difficult because it exist within a subjetive framework, but real love restitutes your whole being, there is an before and an after in your life when it comes to knowing "love"

>>84364414
>it isn't more inherently vulnerable,
Yeah it is, because humans are innately jealous and want mate exclusivity, and are also inherently incapable of loving or caring for multiple things equally. That emotional neglect and betrayal of not getting as much love as another, of not being good enough for them, of having to share the attention and affection you want, that's horrible even if you're not trying to reproduce with someone.

>>84364453
Gross

i miss /lgbt/... at least there were fewer gooning rightoids there...

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>>84364669
>>84364646
you people are so vapid when it comes to things, let it be, HDG is an open source, some people doesn't like the haustoric implant so is not necessary

>>84364431
Telling me I'm a whiner for disliking outright thought-insertion and thinking it's more boring than xenodrug and experience induced personality shifts isn't going to make me stop feeling that way.

>>84364779
You would've had the same argument about monogamy there, and I know it because I also post there.

>>84364431
Agree. Not only is it not hot, no implant is not cute or romantic either. Obviously being a floret means being the small flower as a part of a bigger one. All the words like floret, connivent, pinnate, are botany terms for different conjoined/fused plant stuff. If there's no grafting process, then you'd just be a pet, not a floret.
I don't view the haustoric implant as some control tool for an adversarial relationship, the pet and the owner are joining the same side. Its a biological bond and a forever promise that you are their little flower, and I find that sort of devotion heartwarming.

>>84364883
You think direct mind control is necessary for it to be hot, I and others think direct mind control is less than using xenodrugs and lovebombing. This is a fundamental difference of opinion which is fine, just don't think 'haustoric is more hot' is an objective fact and not a subjective opinion.

>>84364743
I can say definitely that I myself haven't felt that same depth of love, but to my understanding there is no specific thing that would make that sort of love between more than 2 people impossible. As far as I am aware the part of the brain that processes relationships is capped at roughly 150 individuals. Obviously I don't know how individuals you love do intensively are handled but there isn't any known limits within the capacity to form relationships other than that. More like several pieces of a collective whole, like how its said that lovers 'complete eachother'. Though to my general understanding, most marriages in the modern day aren't even that deep, not to say that its more common in polygamous relationships, but that the kind of love you are describing is of a profound rarity on the whole in most cases.

>>84364883
>a forever promise
You're gonna die in 200 years and she'll rebloom sooner or later and then you won't ever be any more relevant to her again than any other datapoint or individual.

>>84364769
Any relationship is vulnerable to those things, between any amount of people, people end relationships over even imagined infidelity. The process of a deeper love is recognizing and working to resolve these issues when they make themselves apparent, not matter how many members, but obviously more frequently between more due to numeracy.

>>84364972
200 beautiful years with my loving mommy. how much more could I possibly ask for.

>>84364972
A direct purpose of the haustoric is the extension of life exponentially beyond the natural limitations of the species, because it allows for the advanced forms of mechanical or biological modification to allow for sustained immortality.

>>84364926
>just don't think 'haustoric is more hot' is an objective fact and not a subjective opinion.
yes, what is hot is subjective? Someone let everyone know they hate the haustoric implant, I replied that I love it for more than it just being hot. You're the only one seeing my preference as some attack on your opinion. At worst, I'm just saying you have shit taste, nothing more, nothing less.
>>84364972
>You're gonna die in 200 years and she'll rebloom sooner or later and then you won't ever be any more relevant to her again than any other datapoint or individual.
Uhm, n-no, firstly, I'm getting digitized, and if you don't believe that, then, she'll remember me forever, and if you don't believe that, we'll meet again at universe ascension or something. I'm her little flower forever somewhere somehow and you can't stop it.

>>84365042
>Any relationship is...
Sure, and for it happen in such a direct way in a monogamous relationship, they have to cheat, which is a severe breech of trust and a treachery of the worst sort. Otherwise that kind of raw suffering doesn't happen, only the slow fading of emotion. In a polygamous relationship, you've already let the proverbial cock into the henhouse. They're already doing all of that to you and you have to smile and take it while the pain is sharp. You can sit here and tell me all day "Well theoretically..." or "But it's TECHNICALLY possible..." all you want, but that is not how it functionally pans out in the real world.

>>84365112
Yeah that's why I said 200 and not 80 years, the average lifespan of a Floret is around 200 years.

>>84365131
Even only theoreticality eliminates any form of fundamental impossibility, I know that's not even how its likely to turn out, but any numerical advantage monogamy has in that regard comes purely from making up the overwhelming majority of relationships. Your argument was that it was impossible, and while I'll conclude unlikelyhood, I do not think on a case to case basis that maintaining a monogamous is inherently more likely at all.

>>84364400
oooh i want the pink one please
its cool and spikey but also pretty

But I want to be implanted I want to be close to mommy…

>>84365318
Once you're implanted she can insert thoughts into your head to make you stop loving her.

>>84365340
Why would she do that!!!

>>84365276
I argue it's impossible because humans are naturally jealous. That has no bearing on your theories before so I didn't mention it in that post. Every single human experiment in regards to a lack of formalized dedicated relationship (eg. kibbutzim) inevitably leads to HORRID relationship dynamics, drama, and jealousy in the extreme. Worth noting that very polygamous system in the pre-modern day relied entirely on institutionalized sexism to justify and enforce itself.

>>84365379
Who knows, but the fact that she can is a good argument against the implant.

>>84360060
NTA but it's not my responsibility to pet or otherwise indulge anyone, fish included... right?

>>84364243
its literally grown from them. its just a little part on invasive affini. In Milk and Cookies someone gets "infected" from getting affini splinter in their arm

>>84365391
>kibbutzim
floret october 7................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

>>84365391
My argument remains that if addressed and resolved in a healthy manner then even extreme jealousy is only another hurdle in the process of the relationship. A challenge that does require some dedicated effort but can be addressed and resolved even if it doesn't prevent it from occurring again. Obviously there is more jealousy in a relationship with more people, possible making it more susceptible on the whole, but it is not the be all end all you seem to think it is.

And in acknowledgement of the culture of harems, I feel there is a very significant difference between a complex system of ideally loving relationships between multiple equal individuals and the simple collecting of wives/husbands that make up a harem. I am well aware of the systematic exploitation involved in them, and on the whole think of the system and the means that support as very primitive and unrelated to the the concept of Polygamy I am trying to argue for the sake of, which I understand cannot be held as entirely perfect, but has all the same potential to be as equal and respectful as monogamy, which does not exist in a harem.

>>84365340
Mommy would never do that
Ever
But now I cannot be sure and will be scared and untrusting kitty my whole life

>>84365404
I think you're a dummy and a liar and very very wrong.

>>84365497
Now that's hot

>>84365777
And I'll restate, your argument relies on theoretical thinking that is not only impossible in practice but defiant of human nature as it exists.

>>84365886
>I think
Do you?

>>84365340
this is exactly why the affini being good is an assumed axiom. if the moral is "you can't trust a good thing" then what's the point? the entire draw (or at least a big pillar) of hdg is "what if you actually could trust authority, no seriously". breaking scared ferals is about learning (and forcing) trust in a genuinely beneficial environment.

the rejection of this initial premise is just not terribly interesting as discourse, honestly. it's just whining ferals refusing to believe that they really could be loved and happy.

>>84365921
And you again aren't arguing.

>>84365937
It's more being funny with the Floret roleplayers by making Feralist suggestions, though I do strong dislike the implant.

>>84365928
Mommy let's me have my own internal monolog separate from hers!
I think! And she aggrees with me!

>>84365962
There's not really anything to argue, anon, your point is to say "It's theoretically possible" which yeah, but it's not practically possible because of x and y. You can say "I don't agree about x and y", which I can counter-argue with more real-life examples you can ignore and we can back and forth forever but unless you want to break out citations and really make both of us miserable and ruin our days that's the most we can do.

>>84365966
mommy is going to have to reassure me lots and tell me I'm not an embarrassing autistic mess after i went taking someone overly literally again.

>>84366032
How do you know she didn't make you do that so you'd have to come and beg her for reassurance?

>>84366032
there is no need to feel bad for your neurodivergence, petal. It's part of what makes you yourself and I love it just like I love every part of you. Let me give you some Class E's. No pet of mine is going to feel embarrassed for being herself.

>>84366083
mommy knows what I love so well...

>>84365391
ve been in a polygamous relationship for a year and a half and its been chill... idk. dont project your personal feelings onto everyone in the world

>>84366016
I'm gonna finish with this then, I think, that it with enough dedication and effort could workout, more because I acknowledge true love as a force capable of enduring anything.
I am sorry to hear that you had your heart broken, and I am sorry that wound hasn't healed.

>>84365404
an affini could also, like, kill you anytime they wanted. does that ruin it all for you?

>>84366193
That makes it hotter to me.

>>84366193
See >>84365966 those posts aren't meant to be my serious reasons for disliking the implant, but funny Feralist arguments.

>>84366193
Yeah, but there'll be repercussions for murdering your floret. I'm not gonna let an alien with some bizarre moral framework "trust me bro" into getting nerve stapled!

>>84363319
all florets should have balls AT LEAST that big

>>84366446
floret with chimpanzee balls

kind mistress who trains you into being her broken needy pet almost entirely through positive reinforcement and rewards and love
:)

>>84366578
floret who marks you with their pheromones by rubbing her balls all over your face (she will be sad if you don't let her)

>>84366614
>her balls
wow.... this is the america LIBTARDS want........

>>84366653
I know. It's so annoying when an owner doesn't get her floret fixed.

>>84366724
what if she gets her floret fixed but gives her prosthetic balls because she likes watching them swing around heavily when her floret runs up to hug her

>>84366446
Balls are gross

>>84366807
Are they not polished enough for you? Yea, I'm calling out your spherephobia, stone cube floret.

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>>84366807
>>84363319
>>84366446
>>84366578
>>84366614
>>84366653
extremely hot
>>84366724
>>84366780
>>84366807
mental illiness

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>>84367413
i love all the florets to have big round and soaked little sissy balls ready to be release within their affini floral womb

>>84367415
>>84367480
Man I fucking hate sissy shit. I'll never get mef fags.

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>>84367601
i am trans (repper), but i feel an extreme fixation over male genitalia

>>84367888
I'm a repper too and the sissy stuff has just always made me uncomfortable. Presenting femininity as humiliating or a negative and not a good thing always got me feeling sad and put off for obvious reasons. Plus when it's spouting lines like "Hurr you're not a man you're too girly and pretty your dick is small" it's like holy shit good, that's what I'd want you dumb humiliation kink bitch.

>>84364095
>>84364404
>>84364619

Only speaking for myself here ofc but to me the haustoric implant is probably the best part of the fantasy. Maybe it's just because I've struggling with mental illness most of my life but the thought of someone who truly loves me and has my best interests at heart being able to go into my thoughts and strip out the mental poison that's ruined my enjoyment of life for the last 20+ years is a powerful draw for me - now that I think about it, it's probably the main thing that hooked me on the setting. It's definitely a bit of a scary concept on the surface, it sits adjacent to scary sci-fi mind control across various works of fiction, and I think that's probably intentional on the part of glitchy and the other early authors of the setting, you need a little bit of fear and tension to make the stories interesting. But at least for me if you're willing to put stock in the axioms and believe that the Affini would only ever have your interests at heart then it becomes a lot less scary - again, at least that's the case for me.

>>84367888
>>84367965
stop repping retards

the affini will rename Cape Town to Rape Town. and all feralists will have to live in the townships.

>>84368538
never. i do not want to be a linebackerhon.

>>84368538
Working on it

district 9 hdg crossover

>>84368614
FOCKING WEED

>>84368614
>p.w. botha orders wouter basson to use the recovered haustoric implants to permanently subdue the black and coloured population, before sending them all off to bantustans

So the Affini arrive, what biomods are you getting or does your Affini know you would be happiest with? Would you remain the same gender?

For me
>Short, like 5' tall
>Still male
>Smol pp and balls
>Built like an anime femboy, noodle armed and with no body hair
>Hair is either platinum blonde, pink, or can just change color at will

>>84368807
woman,. woman. woman. woman. woman. anything but what i am now. woman please,.,,,

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>>84368807
Wooden peg leg, hook hand, eye patch, and lit fuses hidden in my hair and beard for style points.
And yeah I'd stay a guy.

>>84368807
Whatever plommy says is best

>>84368807
like biomods or class-g?
for biomods I would just start with some cat parts probably

>>84369197
Both

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>>84368538
i will rep until i am 50 and then i will kill myself
>>84367965
is not about humillation but rather accepting yourself

>>84369441
There is NO WAY that beard fits under a helmet

>>84368807
Absolutely not I'm changing myself completely.

>>84369257
I guess probably pretty conventional feminizing class-gs then, maybe I'd want to be paler

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>>84368163
don't you think you could get the same healing and love though less intrusive ways? i understeand that HDG is all about intrusion but i just feel very uncomfortable by someone getting into my body to that degree. i am ok with hrt and even making me into an anthro animal but i dont like when i have an affini parasyte within my brainroot. again, submission is okay, but i still want to hold to my identity, even if is a submissive brainwashed dumbfucked identity. i guess it really depends on how hardcore you want your experiencie to be

affini who puts you inside the ape enclosure at the zoo

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>>84368807
short, like 5' tall
>still male
>smol pp and balls
>built like a female, pic related. the only remaining male things that can be recognized are my genitalia
>hair is long. very long. i want to see how slowly my hair grow beyond my shoulders
>delicated flower body, fetal position, perfect hip radio, mpreg added to my biology
>able to impregnate and to be impregnated
>some animal features

>>84369537
NTA, but what makes you uncomfortable exactly? Is it discomfort around body horror? or the fact that your owner owns too much of you and could puppet your body and mind? or does it feel embarrassing to have your thoughts/feelings exposed?
I don't really get the loss of identity point you are making. I'd want an implant and I don't see it as me losing my identity or ego even if I no longer have full privacy or control over my mind and body. She'd obviously find me cute for me, if she just wanted a mindless body to puppet around she could build a robot, people getting droned are or dolled obviously have those kinks or flourish best in those states of mind.

>>84368807
lanky angelic 6'5" body super pale with angel wings/hollow bones to let me fly and also fangs and also night vision. also the flying thing makes me extremely weak even to other humans. when plommy pets me my wings twitch involuntarily and when im nervous I hide in them.

>>84370286
also im a woman obviously but desu I already had srs so there isnt much they would do for me lol.

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>>84370224
>She'd obviously find me cute for me

thats the point, there is no "me" when the affini is inside of you literally (with the exception of sexual intercouse). is just way too hardcore, too body horror for me. i always liked the inevitable imposition of the affini over the floret, and the resistence of the floret over the affini, but the value of these kinks are based on the relationship between subject (affini) and object (floret) similar of a wolf hunting a rabbit. with the haustoric implant, there is really no difference between the affini and the floret, since the affini can input the thoughs, emotions and conciousness of the floret, the floret virtually doesn't exist, there is no relation between the floret and the affini because there is no floret, only affini. for me any kind of relationship, being in relation to love or lust or both, needs two entities that exist in a certain cohesion, if one is absorbed into the other, wich is basically what happens with the haustoric implant, is just not fun anymore

i like to become a doll as well, but rather in the sense that i become a mindless lobotimized entity that the affini dress and uses as they please rather than an actual drone controled by someone else

i autistic so i have a very specific driven motives regarding my kinks, and in general my worldview. to me, individuality must be respected even in settings where that same concept is violated

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>>84352683
is there any cis men who love HDG?

>>84370224
This post is really funny when you're NOT into being a drone or doll because it's like the poster is struggling to understand how being mind controlled into a puppet could be considered violating even to someone without those interests.

>>84370802
>struggling to understand how being mind controlled into a puppet could be considered violating
I mean sure but that's kinda the basis of hdg

>>84370844
The setting draws you in with the big mommy dommy pumping you full of cuddle drugs to break through your resistance to being her pet/letting her change your life and body for the better. The implant is different since it allows them to directly insert and control thoughts in your head, there's no longer any real push and pull or need for you be talked or drugged into doing stuff and having fun. The dynamic ends with the implant, and hence the appeal. You're not a cute snuggly pet and loving it you're just an automaton the plant is controlling directly.

>>84370970
>The setting draws you in with the big mommy dommy pumping you full of cuddle drugs to break through your resistance to being her pet/letting her change your life and body for the better
idk, that's not really how it feels if your first introduction to it is the original story
of course the implant ends any conflict in the story, but the story has to end eventually. Florets being scared of the implant is also really just like feralists being scared of being florted. Like you're scared of being turned into an automaton controlled by the plants? That's literally feralism, you're a feralist

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>>84371038
>>84370970
the implant only controls as much as it needs to. its not just rewriting your personality. its more like guardrails.

>>84371038
Ferals are supposed to be wrong, which the Affini is meant to demonstrate. If the implant really turns you into a puppet, then the fear of it isn't wrong, the story doesn't justify it as an actual good thing.
>>84371672
For one, that's up to the individual Affini. For two, define a 'guardrail.' Some people would call crying at a sad movie unnecessary stress that you shouldn't be allowed to feel. Do you really want to lose your ability to be impacted appropriately by things you enjoy?

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>>84371672
bottom surgery, ew

>>84372274
But what if add pussy instead of take penis for pussy?

>>84372274
>Ew
Wrong.

>>84368807
Girl. Cute girl with cat ears. Or with horns. Horns usable as handles. Horns that can be snapped off to induce an overwhelming, euphoric orgasm before they grow back...

Or just a girl would be alright.

>>84368807
idk whether to go all in on the longhaired bishonen twink look or go for the fluffy snowy owl mods...

>>84370286
aw so cute

>>84371924
I guess, but most people are voluntarily domesticated and they could select an affini that shares their views.

>>84372403
I think horns are cute as hell but my problem with them is they'd get in the way of sleeping. Doors can be adjusted to be wider but you basically get locked into one or two head positions while sleeping and that sucks.

>>84372470
It's mandatory that you get a warm fluffy ruff around the neck/upper chest, anon.

>>84372828
yeah on account of how loud they are

>>84372840
OvO
{{{}}}}

>>84372861
Exactly. It should be so fluffy people can't tell if you have hooters or not.

>>84372828
Just get little pointy ones