General for discussion of Human Domestication Guide & related fiction.Incredibly Care Filled Tooth Cleaning Edition>What is HDG?HDG is a collective kink writing project about the Affini (an advanced precursor civilization from outer space), who aggressively care for every other species in the universe. They have finally turned their glittery eyes on future grimderp hypercapitalist nightmare humanity. Using their natural charisma and various classes of Xenodrugs, they aim to make Florets (d̶o̶c̶i̶l̶e̶,̶ ̶d̶r̶u̶g̶ ̶a̶d̶d̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶p̶e̶t̶s̶ loved and cared for individuals) of us all! But don't worry, they always have everyone's best interests at heart, even if their methods aren't even remotely consensual~>Where can I read it?Read the original story here https://readonlymind.com/@GlitchyRobo/HumanDomesticationGuide/or check other stories on ROM https://readonlymind.com/search/?q=%23Human_Domestication_Guideor Ao3 https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Human%20Domestication%20Guide%20-%20GlitchyRobo/worksor the wiki: https://hdg.wiki/Previous thread that manifested its destiny: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/84484499/
>>84526718>tfw no affini mommy
>>84526880but that is the face *when* affini mommy...
>>84527012nnnghhh mommy...
plantmomposting?
I've always found depowered stuff hot, like having super powers, or magic, or psychic abilities and someone can disable them, seal them away, or permanently remove them.>Be part of unethical Accord medical experiments>Develop psychic powers which grow more and more powerful>Lift multiple tons, super speed, precognition>Affini show up and because you fight back they decide to domesticate you>End up subduing you and slapping a collar to mitigate your powers>Mistress decides how much powers you can use>I'll let you levitate if you're a good girl and take your class-gs
>>84527451It is a small personal pleasure for me to think about crossovers with hdg and whatever else I'm interested in/into at the time. I've fantasized at some length about being/seeing a feral CAIN exorcist or SIN host get rescued/rehabilitated/domesticated...
>>84527213It is very distinctly not the error of phrase in particular that increases your likelihood of being adopted, but your reaction to recognizing your own error, if there is any reaction at all.You won't get florted for calling your proctorffini mom or mommy, but you will have a new mommy if you say it at least three times in a row trying to correct yourself.
>>84527985>Okay, I understand. Thank you Ms. Mom- i mean, I'm sorry, mom- mommy- Moxie! Ms. Moxie, I meant, I d-didn't mean to->*bursts into tears*
>>84527451xcom psy soldier gets plampted
>>84527451>>84528143Mandatory Domestication for literally all psykers.Especially the emperor.
the affini claim to hate capitalism, yet all the trillionaires and quadrillionaires from the accord are pampered, beloved, happy pets now. curious!
>>84528527You ever watch double king?
>>84528405Stupid bi... dumb mistress banned me from playing Dark Heresy because of "excessive violence"Like it's not even real why can't I enjoy a little dismemberment now and then
>>84528745A majority of games that are known to glorify gratuitous violence, especially for religious purposes, are frequently seen on the restricted and limited access lists, due to having ties to more significant emotional motivators towards replicating that violence. And in accordance with that cannot be considered safe in the hand of ferals who are much more likely to take to that inspiration and become violent.You appear to already have your haustoric which is very good, but it may need a bit more time to ensure a complete embedding, so that you won't try to do something drastic in a moment of panic.
floret who is really upset at not being allowed to play rimworld because of... everything.
>>84523284thank you nona I was searching something new to read.>>84525516those are fucking expensive and it takes a really long time.
>>84529119Many games that a explicitly restricted for individuals or ferals can be appealed for access for florets by their owners, though their are often times "Compact Approved" recreations or floret retoolings.
>>84529191the time will pass anyway
>>84529359yeah but its expensive as fuck,I could buy it, but I would have no money to pay rent. (maybe the affini are right about capitalism)
>>84529400if ur actually fat can't you just get a doctor to prescribe it
>>84527762Do you know any? I mentioned a couple threads back that I was looking for good crossovers, but I only could find a couple that were both deeply stupid, and noone else said they knew of any.
>>84529443the lorets have an official stance against crossovers so most of the published ones suck or are hatefics. iirc there's a kind of funny hatefic k6bd/lancer crossover, but it's not goodthese are just internal fantasies. there are a few paragraphs in my notes app. that's it.
>>84529465>>84529443There was an SCP crossover from an SCP universe perspective, treating the affini as an SCPBut i remember getting bored reading it in the first 3 chapters, so its probabbly not great either.
>>84529660Was it the one where the Ethics Committee deposes the O5 Council because they want to fight the Affini (AKA their literal founding purpose as an organization) instead of immediately surrendering? Yeah, that was one of the deeply stupid ones. (The other isn't technically a crossover, because it's set in the modern day real world, but it acts like a crossover and is deeply stupid in the same way).
deliberately misgendering florets in front of their owners
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>>84530088I dont remember that, but quite possibly? Its been a while, and i only read the begining. Something about sending an MTF "undercover" or something? My memory is bad, haha.
>>84529420it is still expensive as fuck. like half a month of minimun wage in my country
>>84530336...where do you live?
>>84530336Seconding >>84530348, where are you lolit'd be like, 2 days minimum wage here
>>84529465My big one at the moment is battletech and I think the Affini would find their great houses, custom paint schemes, the clans and their weird culture adorable.>Oh he's your bondsman, so you're best friends after playing?>You painted your mech such cute colors!Also I could see them keeping Solaris VII open with a lot of safety rails so nobody actually gets hurt.
>>84530205I don't think so? They first encountered him from the random dimension-shifting guy and the first time they had actual contact instead of hearing things about them was the surrender.
>>84530430yea like i said im terrible when it comes to memoryit oughta have been this one though, the others that come up in the search all look wronghttps://archive.transformativeworks.org/works/63939697/
>>84530622I haven't read that one ... looks better than the other one, at least
>>84530622pretty bad grammar... if you're going to be publishing something - even for fun - you should probably work out the difference between your it's and its :/
>>84531377You know i didnt write that, yes?
>>84531602it's a comment on the story you linked. i dont care who wrote it
>>84530348>>84530368brazil...
>>84531798i am so sorryfor some reason i was thinking like south africa or something
umm indie having a really rough day tries to stop at a vending machine on tha way home to get a snack they like but it's been replaced by a compiler and it won't compile their favorite pre-compact generic TreatSlop(tm) since it's full of heavy metals and it's the straw that breaks the camel's back and they get frustrated and start crying'finni overseeing public works in the area is keeping track of happiness metrics (hidden camera analysis of terrans after they get their snackies) is alerted that the compiler made someone cryflorts 'em...
indie who is okay with the whole capturing and owning humans thing but draws the line at weird bondage stuff
Why do the horrible slavers bent on opressing us all have to be so HOT? its NOT FAIR!!
>>84532666Public access food compilers are restricted from producing items that contain potentially harmful compounds, if the individual had simply thought to ask the operator for their favorite treat instead, the operator coukd use their override access to successfully compile the treat and allow them to enjoy their snack and the rest of their day!By not choosing to seek help and becoming upset instead, the individual proved emotionally volatile under adaptive stress, and unable to prioritize seeking support in an abstract scenario. Which in combination with a pre-existing record as detailed in their case file, means that domestication was the best option for their enduring happiness.
>>84532857I'm not sure that an operator would grant an override for the compilation of food containing toxins.
why would the affini have an issue with food or other things for that matter that are "bad for you" when they can easily fix any resulting issues?As long as it makes me happy and i get regular checkups, it should all be fine, no?
>>84532975fatass. eat your veg
Attempted suicide bomber floret who's still wearing her bomb vest (if she takes it off it detonates and hew owner hasn't figured out to safely disarm it yet)
>>84532994again, genuinely why would i have to do that if lacking nutrients can be supplemented and excess fats and calories can be dealt with via modifying my metalbolism?
>>84532900Addmitedly she isn't supposed to, but acting cute and saying you really really really want works on just about any given affini so it isn't quite as enforced as it should be.>>84532975Because you shouldn't want to put things that are dangerous to you in your body no matter how happy they make you or accessible care is, self-endangerment is still self-endangerment.
>>84533084but its literally not a danger if i get the meds/care, man, thats the whole point! Should a diabetic not want candy cause candy is dangerous to them without assistance of insulin?
>>84532857>affini have a case file out on all of you listing the reasons you're very cute and should be domesticatedchilling. perverts
>>84532999Affink could very confidently either identify whichever active wires are bound to the bomb itself through their capacity for electrosensory and cut them, or defuse it though several other similarly effortless means, if the owner themselves is not currently capable, they should go to the vet who will absolutely be able to safely disarm the bomb.If the floret for whatever reason decides the active state of the bomb is comforting to them and do not wish to have it removed, replacing the explosive itself for a much less destructive one without informing them has been observed to maintain their happiness.>>84533147No humans should want candy because its full of sugars and chemicals in explicutly dangerous amounts, the candies produced by the compact use a much safer formulation that cannot incur diabetic risk.>>84533198Would it make you happy to know how close you are to being domesticated by default?It doesn't get marked against your case...
Just in case nobody saw this in the last thread
Affini who comes up with an automated feralbreaking system, capable of scaling far beyond the current bespoke methods, that just so happens to be exactly aligned with my fetishes for bondage, hypnosis, brainwashing and torture.
>>84533298hmmmm yea nah anon, im not vibing with this "unfun teatotaler" vison of the affini your presentingi reject it0 out of 10, would rather stay here and work my 8 to 7 than get conquerd by a species that takes away all the nice and fun things and call it care
>>84533029Because you should be monitoring your own nutritional intake and prioritizing a balanced and healthy diet as an individual.Direct metabolic adjustment is only available through the haustoric implant.
>>84533382>i reject the affiniThat's okay. They don't really need your consent.
>>84533429no anon, i reject *your* vision of the affini. The affini as in most actual stories are fine.
>>84533444okay
>>84533476
>>84528745New flort torn between feeling good that someone cares enough about her to be so protective and actually being a bit upset that she can't play violent video games.
>>84533382It doesn't take away all the nice and fun things, you won't get florted just for eating candy. But maintaining individuality means recognizing and supporting one's own sufficency. That "should" mean a life entirely without things that are dangerous for you, but we both know that for a species as danger driven as terrans, that is all but functionally impossible. So long as you can maintain your own life, without excessive reliance external input or support, you will maintain the complete freedoms afforded to you by the Compact as an individual. If you cannot do that, you will be put into wardship and taught to do that, if you cannot be taught to do it you will no longer be an individual and be forced into domestication. Never once in that statement does it say that you can't have an extra extra greasy Luther Burger, or buckets of incredibly sugary candy, it means that taking yourself to the vet because you know that you're going to have a 5th heart attack means you will not have the freedom to give yourself a 6th.That sadly is also your last violation, an agent should be arriving shortly to collect you and your favorite stuffies.
>>84533722If someone's retarded enough to let it get that bad i agree they're not suitable to care for themselvesIm saying "oh, this liver value is a bit higher than it shold be, better bring it back into proper range before something happens" not "fuck your shit up and then get it fixed once its already fucked", obviously thats retarded
>>84532666>>84532857>>84532900>>84532975>>84533084Dozens of affini working around the clock to perfectly recreate the flavor of TreatSlop(tm) without heavy metals. Their efforts are confounded by the fact that many of the sophonts who like TreatSlop(tm) seem to be drawn to the heavy metals specifically.
>>84533853indie who becomes violently, explosively agitated when the weeds try to stop them from chewing lead paint chips
>>84533803If its just regular maintaince you want to go in for there's obviously more tolerance that can, but you would probably still be taught to prioritize methods of maintaining your body yourself, both because there would absolutely be those options readily avainable to an Indie, like a pill that cleans out your liver or something. But also because a floret-to-be in the vet waiting room is trying really hard to act like their heart isn't actively exploding and is doing a really bad job of it. Which is to say, they need to be able to prioritize who to care for, and if you are clearly capable of caring for yourself then you should be.
>>84534007>because there would absolutely be those options readily avainable to an Indie, like a pill that cleans out your liver or somethinggood fucking lord double o 7, have we been talking past each other all this fucking time or what? Thats exactly what the fuck im saying. There WOULD; infact, be shit like that. So the solution to "man this shit is bad for my liver" can just be, take the damn pill and its fine, rather than "oh boy time to practice abstinence"
>>84534134I apologize, I thought that was obligotory and wouldn't require specific clarification.My point remains regardless, there should be enforcement for individuals who do not sieze the provided opportunity of the pill or several other methods of autonomous bodily regulation. Even if you are not one of them.
>>84534320well yes, i would actually concur on that. If someone insists on doing something harmfull for them - yet refuses to mitigate that harm, despite it being easy to do so... then they might need a helping hand in making their decisions
affini who gives you a treat when you are good and/or cute (never.)
>>84534794Wrong!>gives you a treat right now
>>84534819t-this doesn't mean anything... b-baka...
>>84535064It means you're a cutie patootie and are love bery much and deserve to know that.
Floret who is literally starving to death. Their laments and cries of pain fall upon the deaf ears of their mistress. They will die alone, in pain, hungry (it has been thirty minutes since mommy gave them a treat)
>>84528067t-minus one week until Ms. Moxie proudly owns the sweetest little sprout in the universe <3
Indie who happily snuggles in and nuzzles into the affections of any affini who gives them the time of day. The indie is me, I will be that indie.
Sushi doesn't hit the same when your not allowed to taste the mercury with your brain stem.Fuck the implant, I'm filling my nervous system with heavy metal!
>>84535590Petal, that's why you have the implant
>>84535563wonder if they make J-cafes staffed with independents.
POKEMON TRAINER AFFINIPOKEMON TRAINER AFFINI
very, very, very high floret who has informed their mistress that they're going to eat her because she's "made of food"
>>84537219woof @_@
independent who gambles with her mistress-to-be until she has to put her future on the line.beeschurger
Today I sat in a chair and examined a part of my upper arm where no coarse body hair grows and I never get any sun. I don't work out so it was soft and smooth. I remembered most of my body used to be like this and wanted to cry. Is this domesticable?
has anyone made a booru yet
>>84538172is there an easy way to host it?I don't know how that works
>>84537626No, this in and of itself is just a situation for class G's and or a some careful personal hygine.While affini technology would allow for targeted hair loss at the folicle and prevent further incident. There are means available with modern technology that would allow you to get and maintain a close shave, even just disposable razors so long as you're careful and can afford to put in the time and effort.You only need to lay the razor gently against your and pull honestly as slowly as you would think to comfort another person, even if you aren't sure you know what speed that is, trusting in your instinctual capacity for love will at least set you on thw right path.I choose to pull 'against the grain' that being the general direction the majority of your hair sits in when brushed with your hand down or wet, but you will always get the best results always pulling in the same direction primarily over each of the parts of your body, then can specifically target any remaining hair however you need to.It is a lenghty and dangerous process, you will want to have bandages near by incase you hurt yourself while learning, but by being careful, and putting in the time to care fpr yourself, you can feel that you are nearly that hairless over most of your body, at least for a day. I know it isn't much, but it is the cheapest option and available nearly everywhere on the planet.Once you have the confidence to do your entire body, I can promise you the time and effort to care for yourself will always prove worth it.Even if you don't ever actually bother learning to shave, doing sonething consiously and deliberately for nobody but yourself, will always make your day at least a little brighter.
>>84532787I'm gonna be honest I don't find them that hot
>>84538914yea like they are imposing and can pick u up and made of drugs but im not gooning my sissy clitty over some affini
>>84538976>>84538914For me at least the idea is what's hot and the inescapable finality of it. Going back to my depowered kink earlier, Affini show up amd you lose, resistance and defiance are utterly pointless. Mistress treating my complaints with amusement is a bonus.>New florer makes a complex philosophical argument against domestication>Aww that's adorable, you're so smart peral, did you read that in one of your adorable books?
>>84538525Aw, anon. It's really nice that you posted this for me. It makes me feel a bit better. Funny thing, I was thinking mostly of sun damage and a skin condition that I've mostly just lived with, lacking the wherewithal to treat properly for a bunch of reasons.I do wish there was some kind of gene therapy that got rid of coarse hairs. The thin, soft ones that also grow I don't mind in the slightest, and I hear they're good for your skin.
>>84540480>>New florer makes a complex philosophical argument against domestication>>Aww that's adorable, you're so smart peral, did you read that in one of your adorable books?
>>84540494this is how I feel every time someone makes a long winded post about how HDG is "problematic"
>>84540505I actually really don't like that response (>>84540494), because not only is it a logical fallacy, it's bound up in rudeness; it's essentially 'you're too stupid to think properly, so I'm automatically correct regardless'. In real life it's only used by assholes, and using it marks you as someone who doesn't actually care about the truth, just about forcing people to defer to your authority (which they likely shouldn't).
>>84541153well, in fairness to them, you are too stupid to think properly
>>84541167No, you're too stupid to think properly (you see why it's a fallacy?)
>>84541247no, you're too stupid to think properly.
>>84541153It being something we recognize as a logical fallacy is likely a more concrete conclusion to an argument they already expect to go roughly as far. Especially in the matter of inequivalent sapience and intelligence its much more likely the less capable organism will default to assuming that not being equal immediately implicates so many of exploitation, and would accordingly search for any and every reason to unjustify or demonize domestication for the protection of their own freedom. Generally leading into logical circles they either can't recognize themselves or assume the other party can't recognize. Especially in the case of obligate sapients, making the argument that "Most organisms live better lives under Affini care" is something they'll immediately try to equate to other situations or scenarios and find some means of 'seeing through' even if it is a verifiable true statement, purely because of how the obligate sapient mind prioritizes self preservation.
>>84541258...I was making a point about its fallaciousness by using it with equal validity on both sides of the argument.
>>84541316no, you're too stupid to think properly.
>>84541247Its more of a "you're too genetically traumatized to think properly", but you're still going to hear "you're too stupid" because the genetic trauma in your brain is telling you that's what they really mean.
>>84541311Except that that's actually a really good argument. If every one of the many, many times it's been said before has been false, and most of those have falsely claimed to be different than the others, that's a strong inductive reason to doubt their position and demand some pretty serious evidence in support, especially since the bulk of the benefits of joining the Compact come from the post-scarcity aspect, which has nothing to do with domestication.
>>84541332Logically, it's the same, just phrased less insulting: 'you lack the capability to form correct conclusions'