/hmofa/ - Human Males On Female Anthros General #5309>"Cool Tricks" Edition--Stories--By Oliver_Hart>The Leaves of Fall (Ch. 28)https://archiveofourown.org/works/63845776https://autononymous.io/authors-and-stories/oliver-hart/the-leaves-of-fallBy Friendlyneighborhoodwriteanon>My Roommate Is A Humie (Ch. 2)https://archiveofourown.org/works/88513471/By Rotham>Foxish Tricks (Ch. 6)https://archiveofourown.org/works/85506926>Through Skies of Gold (Ch. 46)https://archiveofourown.org/works/82410541>Cutter Lynxhttps://archiveofourown.org/works/89468781By ScaryDrPepper>Anthropocene Endling (Ch. 3)https://archiveofourown.org/works/80155791>Knox County Born and Raised (Ch. 13)https://archiveofourown.org/works/62546878By Sovetski>Before Dark (Ch. 25)https://archiveofourown.org/works/77103021By Anonymous>One Morgtastic Eveninghttps://rentry.org/7so7afpsBy OctaviaAnon>My Saving Grace (Ch. 7)https://archiveofourown.org/works/70148341>One More Lighthttps://archiveofourown.org/works/90277851By BigCheezy>Learn To Fly (Ch. 2)https://archiveofourown.org/works/67052770By somethingaboutsharks>Last Root Of Ngnun (Ch. 11)https://archiveofourown.org/works/79954151By LunarOxide>Eclipse (Ch. 22)https://archiveofourown.org/works/69725786By VanillaTin>Heirs to the Elders (Ch. 20)https://archiveofourown.org/works/62459470/[ Story Masterbin ]: https://rentry.org/hmofa | [ Story Update List ]: https://rentry.org/hmofa_updates[ Thread FiIters ]: https://rentry.org/fsdnd[ Writing Guides, Media, Misc. ]: https://rentry.org/hmofa4Previous Thread: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/85020964Missed a thread or two?: https://desuarchive.org/trash/search/text/hmofa/type/op/
I don't shit talk anyone behind their backs
Shameless repost
An earnest pat is a powerful thing.
Do you like waifurs with big tails?
Nevermind new bread is up so I'm posting it here too, I suppose!To the anon who requested Fleet being cute, I've already started the drawing. I think it's going to turn out pretty alright! In the meantime, have Fleetjob
Trans waifurs and the desire to exist
once more: scritches or rubbies?
Helicopter waifur.
>>85023798Jorking
>>85023688Love the shading
i like this cat
Fox nun.
>>85023682Renamon...
>>85023798Slaps on the haunches>>85023725uwawoooo
Living on the dangerous side.
>>85023840Nun, but I want sum
C-cahara? Is that you? Is this where you went after the god of fear and hunger awoke?
>>85023798Relentless and intense scratches at the base of the tail.
Gato.
>>85023896(me)FUCK I forgot to link the other post for this joke to make sense >>85022086I'm going to sleep I'm too tired goodnight
>>85023688What drives a man to draw such a cutie patootie but leave her tail devoid of detail?Does he not know that 95% of the sex appeal of a fops is contained within the tail?
our ice queen
>>85023914Too late nigga. Give >>85023896 a waifur
>>85023924as a middling artfag the tail usually comes last in frontal shots.
>>85023924Laziness and a demand to play Terraria
>>85023798You've got two hands don't you?
>>85023929Her throne is below that frozen lake. Will you dive into that blue-black grave for her?
>>85023949>terrariaI swore off it after finishing a playthrough when they added yoyosDid it get another *draws in breath* final final final for real this time final crossover final no really this time again super final last update?
>>85023980This is what dogfurs post on their socials
>>85023980The Rothschilds are working with Netanyahu to ensure I will never get this. In retaliation, billions must die.
>>85023929>>85024001>no tail
>>85024007idk, I don't really keep up with it anymore. Just have some friends that wanted to play and so I'm bumbling through it rn.
>>85024016It uhhh grows in during the summer
>>85022931
>>85023980>Leon Kennedy x Fay Spaniel
I made his face a little more visually appealing.What should I do for:>Goal 4: Ensure inclusive and equitable quality education and promote lifelong learning opportunities for all.?
>>85024070is that bill clinton
>>85023712Canines never stood a chance.
>>85024081I did not have sex with that woman.
I'm going to celebrate Doomsdale with my waifur today
>>85024088
>>85024055nyehehehe... the claws and that fiery bush, too. you are so real for this... her eyes are so nice as well. you're so generous, thank you!
>>85024094We need to give LTG a waifur
Contraria but she's on crack (and so are you)
>>85024055Would lick.
>>85024113He a hmoma squeegee
>>85024095One could say it's almost a conspiracy.
>>85024010Fayfag do you know who the artist is for >>85023869 or is it AI?
Ngghhh
>>85024164
>>85024055The beans have been shown....
>>85024159desu I don't remember. What I do remember is the artist saying that it technically wasn't Fay, for some reason. Maybe we should post it on e621 and get a nerd to search for us
>>85024101Forgot small details
>>85024101>>85024131>>85024172
>>85024208the claws are so good too, especially the little tufts around them. so good, sooooo good
>>85024208thinking about those beansthinging about thosebeans
>>85024208Messy sloppy disinterested double-pumping pawjob...
The bitch
Can I post contraria
>>85024270can i pet dat dawg?
if there are any fancy tricks you'd like to see in a surfboard video game, please let me know.>>85023664thank you, baker.>>85021967yeah real slick, anon!>>85023009this may take me a while.>>85023688>>85024043lovely ladies.
This is so transparently fake lol
>>85024272nah but you can post contreras
>Made senbei for the first time without knowingOh no, the foxes are watching
>>85024282WOWZA
>>85024272I have nothing against her
>>85024289I know that fox!
>"Thanks fur not chimping out when my dad called you a shit-flinging, branch-swinging, suicide-bombing Venomian after he learned you were human. I know that took restraint, ape."
>>85024331>"It's okay I poisoned his food."
>>85024341rrrrggkkkk hey morty
>>85024341Furboi Mortimer
the entire country of israel is intervening to make sure that you and your affectionate, emotionally supportive canine waifur never cross paths, anon
look at her
>>85024280At your own risk
>>85024331>>85024343I wouldn't accept this disrespect
>>85024380You can tell a troon made this, Loona doesn't act like that lorewise. Only when she had to go up against those glowniggers.
>>85024398>caring about Helluva Boss loreGay crying
>>85024398you can feel the chopped off penis through the screen
>>85024398She killed a Flander's stand in, she's a fucking scumbag bro.
>>85024398>Loona wouldnt rip out some random human's throat if he tried to pet herTrue, she'd rip his arm off instead
>>85024418>I'm always watchingGet in the chair, loona
>>85024418Get this dog off my screen!
Speaking of Loona. The one fanfic for that show I read was 'how I learned to love hellhounds' or something similarly titled. Can't even be bothered to look it up to make sure that name is fully correct. Anyways it's horrible. The human is so unrelatable and gay, but I guess that makes sense because it's for hazbin hotel fans
>>85024282Thanx, anon. nice models, wish I could make the lowpoly stuff, or any of the stuff for that matter lol.
>>85024418She'll always make an exception for (you).
>>85024055>>85024208Her face looks very cute here.I just loathe her hair, though. Not in those pics, but in general.I think a ponytail would've suited her better. Though that wouldn't be very unique or rebellious. It's a very conformist hairstyle.
>hell dawgEwwww. Stinky!Give me the hell birb.
>>85024478She's british. Is that a plus or a negative?
>>85024478Loona stinks good but the birb is just as nice.
Fuck of to hhg already.I was rifling through my folders looking for interspecies_impregnation and could barely find any before I checked the feral folder and it's almost all there.Can someone share some impregnation anthro art?
>>85024452I like this meme but it probably made the author never want to post anything here again after that.
>>85024517Isn't impregnation anthro art just anthro art with a creampie?
>>85024527classic
>>85024532I enjoy it way more when there's an indication of impregnation, be it narrative or on the art itself. Really changes the dynamic for the better unless there's some heinous shit already involved.
>>85024546if those pits ain't bushy then i ain't buyin'
>>85024478The birb probably smells like lavender and expensive shampooYou just know that loona stinks of tobacco and cheap booze
>>85024527>three fingers>green skin>no face>flame eye brows Good, that thing wasn't by any quantifiable measure a human, unironically.
>>85024576I never understood why some people writing stories think the green anon is supposed to be taken literally. It's supposed to be for self insert, so making it canonical that anon has green skin is missing the entire point of the character
>No, Octavia, I don't want to watch the new nine-hour Adam Curtis documentary with you."
>>85024576>>85024527He's supposed to be a dead human, thats how they are in the vivzieverseBy your logic, snoot anon isnt a human either, because there are no humans out there with without a nose, hair, eyebrows and eyes and mouth which appear and disappear according to his emotional state
>>85024282Can we get a wipeout?
monkey
>>85024596my problem lies more in the fact that the character is an annoying pussy
chinese panda waifur saying "ni hao faggot"
>>85024418What if she ascended?
i like this animal
>>85023934I'm sorry to say this dude, but I'll keep it real. His wife would be someone like Sarah or Dimmi. It would be someone promiscuous as fuck.Cahara canonically fucks anything with a pulse, married a prostitute and willingly went off to one of the most dangerous and horrifying places in the region to make some money for their child instead of anything safer. The dude is hopeless.If you're asking which waifur I PERSONALLY would give him, it'd be someone who's faithful and loyal, who would talk him off his traumas from the dungeon and get him to get a grip. After the dreadful life he's lived he unironically deserves better
>>85024620Might as well ask "what if she werent a chain smoking, alcoholic, syphilis infested, murderous bitch"Simple answer: it would be a completelu different character
Requesting Loona getting impaled and raped by a biblically-accurate Nephilim.
>>85024596>By your logic, snoot anon isn't a human eitherHE FUCKING ISN'TGREEN SKINNED FACELESS ANON FAGGOTRY IS NOT HUMANITYHUMANS DON'T HAVE GREEN SKINHUMANS HAVE EYESANON IS NOT A HUMAN AND I'M FUCKING SICK OF YOU PEOPLE ACTING LIKE THIS SHIT BELONGS IN HMOFAIF YOUR FAGGOT SELF INSERT HAS NON-HUMAN CHARACTERISTICS THAN HE ISN'T A FUCKING HUMANFUCK YOU
Welcome to dog town
>>85024653Sir Pentious [sp] steps in front of a death ray. He ended up in heaven for accidentally sacrificing himself to save his friends.
>>85024317Just evil enough to make it worth fixing.
>>85024675Counterpoint.A cyborg human protagonist would go fucking hard as hell
>>85024596Snoot Anon does have a face. The look is just a gag.
>>85024675then*I don't think you read a lot
>>85024596IMO the MC being a Sinner or a living human is a good litmus test for "who" the story is intended for.I'm fine with dead human MCs, since that bunny story did it really well, but Sinners are really not humans the way Viv depicts them. Someone could do something clever with them, but it wasn't that story.
>>85024675AUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHTRIGGA BOOBA PLAP PLAPSSHIEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT https://static1.e621.net/data/4a/e6/4ae60a7cfb727a897a55c6eda89b03b8.mp4
>>85024282Have a secret trick where she abandoned the board and starts running on the water it'd be funny I think
>>85024688transhumanism is the opposite of humanity, total cybernetic annihilation
>>85024688Non human + non human doesn't make a human, it's not how this works.Or did you mean just in general.
>>85024688Inherit the Earth but with a cyborg human would go hard. Could even Soma it where it's an actual human mind in there.
>>85024675you will never fit in little nigger
>>85024698>I'm fine with dead human MCs, since that bunny story did it really wellWhat bunny story? I'm interested
>>85024610>monkey>posts an apeHere have a monkey (male)
>>85024596>>85024698You can do a dead human without him being clearly non-human.Yes, the wings aren't his, it's just gear.
>>85024703did fucking NCHProductions make this or something
>>85024737who?
>>85024703I can't take this artist seriously after he made the most laughable HMOFF I've ever seen, I see anything he made and start laughing as that shit pops up in my mind like a flashbang.
>>85024677Sir pentious is a human and has a soul, so is therefore capable of being redeemedLoona is a soulless hellspawn whose consciousness will dissipate into the aether upon her death
>>85024745hmoff is based
>>85024416Correction: the faggot imp that adopted her killed the Flanders stand-in; she got cold feet at the last moment, only to get pocket sand to the face before she could pop a shot into the guy's skull.
>>85024754Yes but not that one, it looks like it was made by a 6 year old it is funny as fuck.
>>85024698I mean, considering how fucked up most dead humans end up looking like, anon got off easy and kept most of his humanity
>>85024760I still want to fuck the Aussie dog's asshole in that one video
>>85024742ancient-ass SEA animator/cartoonist from way back in 4chan's heyday. still makes stuff semi-regularly and has a very similar asset style. i already checked and it obvs isn't him so it's probably just coincidencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar4WzQ7KHak
>>85024745Post it
>>85024721Go jerk off to orcs, you dumb faggot.Green is not a creative color
>>85024782
>>85024688A human who has cybernetics implanted into his body is still a human, and that fact that you don't understand the difference is the problem.
>>85024725Today's Demons are Tomorrow's Angels
>>85024768Are they actually different people?
same bullshit all over againget new material or just fuck off
>>85024782Goofy ahh don't hug me I'm scared referencing ahh unc
>>85024789Thank you for proving my point
>>85024710I was more so responding to the "if he has non-human characteristics, he's not human"In general that's just something I disagree with. You can have your human male he a cyborg, for example, maybe a wizard. Plenty of creative ways to go about writing humans that both makes you appreciate the things that make you human and even question at what point does one STOP "being human"?
>>85024710In general a cyborg human would be cool. Probably has technically been done in a Cyberpunk story but for some reason Cyberpunk characters aren't considered cyborgs when augmented
>>85024798nah pretty clearly not just browsing their portfolio. that animation was only a bad (good?) first impression and nothing more.found this though... nice...
>>85024805If you think a human who doesn't look human is still a human, than you're a fucking retard.
i tired of this faggotcan we get a new shitposter?
I need Angel Gabby beating off Loona with a stick to keep that hussy away from her husband.
You've seen milf stella, now get ready for...teen stella
>>85024795>"A human who has cybernetic implants is still a human"What about a human who has learned shapeshifting and can do things like changing his arms to blades? Or a human who got brought back from the dead but is now either a husk, a skeleton or some sort of zombie like creature, although with sentience? The idea of "what makes one human" itself is always a very interesting concept for a story. For some, what makes one human is the spirit, for others it's the body. It kinda depends on how you think about it. It's been kind of a theme I've been thinking of exploring but haven't really touched yet. On the 2 stories I'm currently writing both human protagonists are indeed just fully human with no catch or anything
Small waifurs with big butts
Are vampires human enough for the human club
>>85024805>>85024807All I'll say is the human-look avoids people doing "this guy is in a protogen body, BUT his brain is human! So it's a /hmofa/ story!" type bullshit. Though I think it's a case of a slippery slope that doesn't actually exist.
>>85024854am i turtley enough for the turtle club
>>85024854No, but werewolves are, so long as it's not a full moon outside(the thread isn't ready to hear about this take yet)
vampires and werewolves are gay, maybe frankenstein could have a waifur but vampires and werewolves are for furbois
>>85024868Boomer.
>>85024854Yes, so long as they don't have shit like pointy ears or look like they're apart of the Nosferatu clan of vampires. Vampires are literally just humans who have been afflicted with vampirism. I think a story about a vampire getting with a magical anthro chick who lives a long time because he wants a wife who won't die quickly would be really cool.
>>85024801Raping this dumb cat.
>>85024839Would have a high school romance with, where we get into class (social not educational) based hijinks together.
>>85024870>the creatures that look identical to humans but are pale and drink blood aren't humans>but creatures that turn into furbois every now and again are humansFuck off
>>85024772https://e621.net/posts/4181417?q=dog+feral+animatedWARNINGHMOFF SO DOGSHIT IT'S FUNNY INSIDE
>>85024816>>85024857Again, I get what you're saying, but the real answer is that it's a nuanced theme.It's not something I'm going to touch on now. Maybe someday in the far off future on one of my stories but I have many other things I think I'd prefer writing about Personally, I'm in the field where I'd go as far as to say that even some pokemon mystery dungeon protags count as humans since they still have their memories and clearly want to go back to being human, but I naturally know not everyone is the same. It's kind of a spectrum between "if it has a human mind/soul it's a human" and "if it has unrealistic anime hair it's not human"
>>85024854Was the vampire previously a human? Then yes. Simple as.
>>85024911slippery slope there
>>85024805>>85024807I actually agree completely, someone like Robocop is 100% a story about a human so a cyborg MMC is still human, but can also be not human depending on how much the writer jerks off "BETTER THAN HUMAN" angle.I just wanted to make a joke about Cyborg being black.For example someone like Adam Jensen is a human despite being like 70% metal.
>>85024907Anon you retard that's an anthro bending over. She's got clothes on and everything.
>>85024846>For some, what makes one human is the spirit, for others it's the body.It's a mix for me.Something like Paenitentia republican soldiers are still human to me despite being having enough bioengineering done on them to look like humanoid horrors.But someone like a Viltrumite isn't despite looking 100% like a human because they don't think like humans and don't gripe with our issues.
>>85024910Honestly I think it also depends on the base couple. I'm willing to ease myself to background stuff if the main couple is more normal. like, let's say The human engram-created Ship AI falling for the anthro/alien engram-created ship AI. Something silly like that as a secondary romance.
>>85024903>The creature that turns into furbois every now and againYou are SERIOUSLY overestimating that "every now and again"There are 12-13 full moons in a year. A werewolf would only "be a furboi" for 3% of a year, and even that percentage is overestimating it because a night doesn't last the whole day.Meanwhile a vampire will NEVER be a human, under any circumstance
Everything is human. How about that. How does that make you feel bish?
>>85024921Not really, in my opinion, but let's iron it out for clarity's sake.>were they previously a human?>do they resemble a human for all intents and purposes?>how "slightly" inhuman are they?The closer they appear to a regular person, the better. But I do consider only very, very strict exceptions for the case of unnatural pallor and eye color, long fangs and claws (unless they trim those) and -maybe- pointed ears. Maybe. Anything beyond these terms is a firm no, including perpetual wings, bat noises or other strong deviations from the standard human model.
>>85024854I'd say someone like Drifter doesn't since he is so far from being human.But someone who was a vampire for a decade or a couple? Sure, especially if he desperately wants to keep being human.
>>85024940https://e621.net/posts/3358089?q=mykendyke+dog+animatedOgeySame warning as last time.
>>85024980>noisesnosesAnd no anthro bat transformation. If the vampire can turn into anything, it's just a regular old plain bat for transportation's sake or spooky effect as is tradition. That's a harmless addition IMO.
>>85024935RoboCop is a good example of that, a man losing his life and humanity, only to ultimately regain it in the end in the pursuit of justice for those responsible.
Werewolf men with female anthro girlfriends are more hmofa than werewolf women with human male boyfriends on an hourly basis. One is 97% hmofa and the other is 3% hmofa.
>>85025022fair point, but what I don't understand is what does making the guy a werewolf add to the concept?
>>85025022How about werewolf man with an anthro male boyfriend? How does that square?
did a lot of drawing tonight. even turned ms stoat into a pony, but i dont have to post that one. another day of drawing down
>>85025022nigga how about a normal human with an anthro? why do you insist on arbitrarily throwing a werewolf into this equation?
>>85025038...It means you can tell a story with a werewolf in it that isn't the FA? Horror story, supernatural adventure, whatever. I think the example that started this whole debate was some kind of slice of life comedy about a murderous werewolf man and his loving wife.>>85025039Don't be a faggot, anon. I know you crave dick but this is hmofa, not hmoba.
>>85025039Who's bottoming?
>>85025069I cannot imagine being this empty-headed and lacking in imagination desu.
>>85025078could you make the female anthro like some other species, non canine, and she also happens to turn into a werewolf? maybe it could be like she's a little squirrel and then she turns into a monster on a full moon
>>85024749Are you telling me that Don Bluth is a liar?
>>85025078>Horror story, supernatural adventure, whateverYou can do all of those without making the HM a furry creature. There is really no reason for taking exactly that angle and trying to argue for it.You could argue the same way for a story where the HM TFs into a woman from time to time and people would still not like it.It's specifically fetish shit introduced into a story that moves it away from HMOFA for no reason besides wanting fetish shit.
>>85025083The anthro ofc.>>85025078>you crave dickAnthro ass actually, but that's besides the point.
>>85025089>I can't make an interesting story without making the human into a non-human and it's your fault!What a gigantic faggot you are.
>>85025089Nta but while I agree variety is the spice of life, werewolf stories are pretty one note. What can be done with that? Every month the guy turns into a murdering wolf or rapist wolf? Not really a fascinating idea
What if human man thinks he turns into a werewolf but actually just becomes a beastial in nature due to a curse. But he isn't the mc which is actually a detective solving savage murders with his anthros assistant (female)
>>85024814The Cuckqueen foot
>>85025095>it means you can tell a story with a werewolf in it that isn't the FA>"but what if you make the FA the werewolf"Anon, I...>>85025099Unless I want to tell a story about a FA dealing with her husband turning into a murderous wolf man? Why do we have any elements in any story? What's the point of writing anything that isn't just a human male and a female anthro in a blank, white room? Adding details is just distracting from the premise of hmofa, isn't that right?Stop being retarded. And stop trying to get the werewolf to fuck the anthro female. No one wants to hear about your cuck shit.
>>85025113It's okay as long as the furboi wears lipstick and a dress while getting fucked, and speaks in a falsetto accent the entire time, and only when you are in human form.
>>85025153what's wrong with the female anthro being a werewolf? i said yep, what a concept
>>85025153>werewolf to fuck the anthro femaleAnon nobody brought it up... Why are you so fixated on that and trying to project?You can explore every part of that idea besides the "WOLF" part through different concepts.If you want to explore the wolf part then maybe admit you aren't interested in the HM? It's not that hard, this will just not be the place for such a story.
are there any hmofa stories about a piece of shit psychopath serial killer human who gets fixed by an anthro female?
>>85025156That would be incredibly gay, no. He'd be slim and fit with a nice ass but still clearly a man, androgynous at worst. Male clothing too, some zesty office uniform at work and sweaters a couple sizes too large at home.And definetly only while in human form, the crux of the story will be about how he hates the wolf form and does all he can to cure anon while anon doesn't even know he turns every full moon.
>>85025206Reverse those roles and I'm interested.
>>85025038On its own? It adds nothing. On the hands of a good writer? Maybe it will add something.It doesn't add anything to a story I want to write about, but maybe it does add to something someone else may want to write about. And if it does, then I'd say this discussion was worth it.Maybe someone wants to write a story about a human who has powers, either through biological mutations or freak accidents, like the average cape shit superhero.Maybe someone wants to write about a man who was cursed or infected with something and becomes a monster from time to time and is seeking a cure, because he's exiled himself from his home and wants to be with his family againMaybe in the middle of a war, a man enhances his own body with cybernetics in order to fight back because he's grown to love his waifur and her family, along with her people.I'd genuinely argue most of these absolutely fit the bar for "human" despite not having human characteristics. Learning to go outside of the "normal" is healthy for your writing. You grow from slowly pushing out against your own comfort zones>>85025078Yeah, exactly! This dude gets it>>85025099>>85025069I cannot imagine being this much against anything innovative. No offense but you both must be extremely stagnant writers.
>>85025206There's a VN but it basically spoils the entire plot to mention that.
>>85025184>"It's specifically fetish shit introduced into a story that moves it away from HMOFA for no reason besides wanting fetish shit."You're astonishingly retarded and surprisingly unashamed to show it.>You can explore every part of that idea besides the "WOLF" part through different concepts.Translation: You can tell this story a different way, so you should tell it a different way that I approve of instead of writing the story you want to tell because I'm a faggot with no imagination nor interest in anything outside a human male and female anthro in a blank white room.
>>85025221That would also be interesting. My preference would be she literally only likes the human guy, everyone else she still hates and wants to slaughter
>>85025141>mutual PJ from your waifur and your neighbor>she thinks you might like the texture of her paws more than her ownI could never do that to my beautiful waifur... even if I am a filthy paw addict...
>>85024980Vampires are very often depicted as being entirely alien and inhuman, with their human visage being used primarily to deceive others. A vampire isn't just a human with powers, it's closer to a possessed corpse with nearly no connection to whoever they were in the past, like a parasite piloting a dead body.At least with a werewolf the human retains his personality, only needing to contend with his curse every so often.
>>85025222>innovativeYou can be innovative without taking away from the HMOFA aspect of the story? You behave like you don't understand where you are. Let me explain to you - this is the HUMAN MALE ON FEMALE ANTHRO general. Anons don't like works that take the male away from human and the female away from anthro because it's not what this general is about.These stories can be great and interesting, they just wouldn't fit here. That's all there is to say really.Besides, like I've said several times already there are ways to make MMCs that aren't completely human without turning them into a furry? Psycher/psychic, mage, cyborg, biological mutant (while still retaining most human qualities) etc. etc. You are just insisting on this specific condition of "he HAS to turn into a furry".
>>85025264there are some vampires that became vampires from being bitten, now if there was a giant ass anthro bat that turned you into a vampire so you could live forever with her would you still consider yourself human?
>HIV infested faggot award
>>85025236Why are you devolving to namecalling the instant your fetish shit is called out? You started talking about cuck things and sex with werewolfs, and now you're pretending to not understand why people don't like you.
>>85025271The story has a human male and it would have a female anthro. I really don't see what the issue is.
>>85025222>I cannot imagine being this much against anything innovative. No offense but you both must be extremely stagnant writers.nigga, its HMOFA, if you want to make an anthro male then get your ass out of here, i dont wanna hear it. stop trying to shoehorn your closeted noncommittal AxA into hmofa. fuck off and leave the thread
>>85025299So you failed to actually read the reply again. I see you're not interested in having a discussion, have a nice day.
>>85025264I'm perfectly aware of the unnatural aspects and their undead status, although I wouldn't consider sex with one to be necro. At least not practically. But in many cases vampires are also able to maintain a semblance of their humanity, which itself is sometimes only lost due to centuries spent in isolation or extreme, inhuman longevity by feeding. Failure to do so can result in a "feral" state. But again, that only applies to some.This is a centuries-old concept and there is nothing written in stone on the matter, including even core concepts like a weakness to silver or certain odd, exploitable habits such as counting salt. It all depends on what you think a vampire should do, think and appear to be for the sake of keeping it as /hmofa/ as it could ever be.They CAN, in fact, just be a human with powers. But you need a few drawbacks to make it real. Even Superman has his glaring weaknesses, and he isn't a human either.
>>85025310>closeted noncommittal AxAtook the words right out of my mouth
>>85025299(me) continuing>>85025271I've also added PLENTY of examples of other stories that involve humans with non-human attributes.I'm not the guy that's being specific about "werewolf stories", I just think narrowing far too much on the idea that human male = average dude with nothing really going for him ASTRONOMICALLY limits you ability to write. And you end up with protagonists from different stories feeling "samey"
>>85025257No it would be with her mouse boyfriend and her? Have you seen the animation she was featured in?
Pulled out the 'jaks award
>>85025271We are all well-aware of your insecurity and strange obsession with the HM werewolf fucking the FA, anon. I don't see why you insist that the FA and the wolfman have to fuck, or do anything romantic besides one trying to contain or kill the other.Characters can do things other than sit around snogging 24/7. They can talk, argue, fight, and interact in other ways that are not directly related to romance. I don't understand why this is so difficult. Just because a HM turns into a murderous wolfman doesn't mean the FA is going to suddenly and magnetically find herself attracted to his dick. I originally thought this was from an obsessive cuck fetish, but now I think it's simply insecurity because you wouldn't be able to resist trying to suck the wolfman's cock, so you think the FA would try to do it too. Sad!
>>85025333>projecting his obsession with AxA sex again Is everything ok, anon?
>>85025327>Have you seen the animation she was featured in?i am completely unfamiliar with this person's portfolio and i do not concern myself with "canon" character relationships for the sake of /hmofa/posting with them, provided the male isn't already a human ofc. i just saw a sweaty paw, went "ooh", checked the character's gender and then saved and posted it. simple as
>>85025184>If you want to explore the wolf partThis entire conversation was about exploring the CURSE part of a werewolf. The brief moments of forced inhumanity and the desperation to find a way to overcome this, likely through the help of another.>You can explore every part of that idea besides the "WOLF" part through different concepts.So you'd be fine with him turning into a murderous flesh mutant every full moon? Is this whole argument just because you see "wolf" and started throwing a fit?>there are ways to make MMCs that aren't completely human without turning them into a furry? Psycher/psychic, mage, cyborg, biological mutantSo that is the case.
>>85025357>are you bothered by making the HM anthro???Yes you dumb nigger, everyone is telling you exactly that.
>I look like this and say this>I look like this and say this>I look like this and say this>I look like this and say this
>>85025357Nta but I'll just say it again. Werewolf stories are pretty one note. Trying to find a cure for a monster curse is honestly just a boring concept
How many mystical orbs have you collected?
>>85025356She pimps her boyfriend out to human men and watches him get fucked. But fair enough
>>85025285>>85025315It definitely depends on what the particular setting defines as a vampire. If a setting threw out a lot of the loss of self horror aspect and made it so you don't lose your personality, I'd be willing to agree that those particular vampires are human enough.
>>85025398kinky
>>85025357>CURSE part... so why not explore the curse part with something that isn't a furry? Again, I take issue with you fixation of making the HM specifically an anthro.>see "wolf" and started throwing a fit?Yes, the argument is here because you want to pretend that a story with elements of the HM changing into an AM is somehow perfectly HMOFA. There are a thousand ways around it and yet you are batting for this exact way that allows you to hold onto what is pretty much an anthro male (even if rare) in your story.>So that is the case.Yes? I never claimed otherwise?
>>85025398Why are pretty much all women okay with this? Even in real life. Women are fucking cucks
>>85025310GOD FUCKING FORBID I don't want to read about "Michael Jorge Davis the human" who has an average job he doesn't like and lives in an average house and lives a completely average life. Maybe I want a protagonist who's got some spice to him. Again, I'm not even focusing on the werewolf stuff, that's another guy, my whole point is that the human male doesn't HAVE to be a boring average completely normal dude. You are perfectly allowed to at least try giving him some sort of anything. Let him be a wizard who's studying magic, let him be a Ghost, or someone who handles them like a medium, let him be obsessed with the supernatural and capable of making rituals to speak to the other side. Let him be cursed with blindness or stuck in a wheelchair.The whole point I'm trying to make is that there is more to the concept of "human male".
>>85025419IDK
>>85025419women by and large have very different tolerances than men
>>85025315>>85025285>>85025402I think Gotrek and Felix did it very well with Ulrika. The first months/year after turning she holds onto her humanity and is very much still a HF.As time passes she looses her grasp on it and stops being one.Same would apply to the male.
He's never going to write it. The fact he's spending this long arguing for this shit means he's never going to write a single word for it. He's either shitposting and acting like a retard on purpose or he's really this dense as to why the human male/female anthro general doesn't like the idea and is upset no one is defending his story idea. If he had any actual conviction he'd have written it already, posted it, and then threw a fit when the whole general tells him to fuck off and not post anthro on anthro porn here.
>she pimps out her boyfriend to human men- AAAAACKKKKK
Man I wish I was a part of the vampire discussion instead that one legit sounds more interesting.
>>85025434The Dimwitdog lifehack for drawing canine noses: just cut a portobello mushroom in half and angle it based on where the snout is pointing.
>>85025377>>85025415There is no difference between having the HM turn into a muderous mutant fleshmonster, or a murderous feral predator. The story would play out exactly the same, a story about a curse that causes a brief loss of humanity, and the HM's attempts to cure himself to avoid hurting the innocent and those he cares about.Saying one of these options is able to remain hmofa and not the other just makes you a hypocrite. Either any story about a monstrous transformative curse cannot be hmofa, or they all can.>>85025385This is a perfectly understandable opinion, and I honestly agree.
>>85025451Sorry, we ran out of tickets for that one. Maybe someone will tap out and you can join.
On all levels except physical, I am a human male
>Why yes, I'm a disease ridden faggot, how could you tell?
>>85025426>there are only two options. Either the HM turns into a furry OR he's as boring as one can make themWhat a disingenuous faggot you are, clearly just doing this to shit up the thread. No more (you)s.
>>85025443>male loses his humanity (even if just in spirit) over time>actively wanting to explore that particular facetyou made it worse.
>>85025443Is there a progressive stage of physical changes in addition to mental ones as well?
>>85025474>"Actually my dad is a human male, as his his dad, so by logic I am also a human male."
Should we count Xavier the renegade angel as a human male?
how to write a story with the guy being a werewolf>never have him turn into a wolf>the story is about the quest to cure it before he ever turns for the first time>the curse is a just a looming threat/time limit>got a full month for deadline since the moon would need to make a full cycle to be full again
>>85025516If the ending is anything to go by, yes
>>85025465>There is no differenceSo why are you adamant about sticking to the one that introduces a furry element to the story?Like yes, I'm arguing about the shape and not the essence, but both can very much be important and it's strange to pretend this isn't the case here. Many (worse) thread stories have the anthro female no different from a human female - the shape of her still keeps the story HMOFA for most people. With logic like yours you could argue that you can make an AxA story about a AM that behaves like a HM because "The story would play out exactly the same".
>>85025516>angelyou answered your own question
>>85025535speaking of angels did you know the nephilim looked like clowns
>>85025485>>85025446I literally did not even start this discussion with the werewolf stuff. I started it with the cyborg stuff and the whole "what makes someone a human" stuff. The werewolf idea was not even an example I had. I just made a fucking joke that werewolves are humans 97% of the time while vampires aren't. I literally don't even want to write a werewolf story I just think the idea of humans with non-human characteristics is interesting. I want to write a story with a cyborg protagonist. It a protagonist with superpowers. This ENTIRE TIME I've just been arguing that maybe we can expand the horizon on the concept of what "being human" entails, and maybe it will give someone an interesting idea that they will do something with, idk.I'm going back to writing and drawing. Too tired to deal with this.
>>85025487>>85025494I think she becomes pale and "dead" rather quickly so no progression of physical traits.>you made it worseBeing an undead sucks ass, what can I say? There are vampires that try their best to remain human and I'd argue for them being HMs even after a long time.But in most cases yeah, the vampire will become inhuman.That's why you either make that a story about seeking redemption/cure or have the HM sacrifice himself at the end as to not stop being an HM.
>>85025548DW senpai I knew you were legit with the cyborg stuff since you mentioned RoboCop.
the only thing worse than making the HM an anthro is making him a disgusting elf
>>85025534Jumping in here but that doesn't make sense. Why are you objecting to the werewolf if you don't object to the flesh monster example? No one except that one guy is talking about the werewolf being involved in any romantical situations, whereas your example relies on the AxA happening.
>>85025562Dwarf hands typed this post. I just can't prove it
>>85025577I could legit infiltrate a dwarven hold by saying I'm just an unusually tall dwarf
>>85025555Quads checked.Ultimately it's a values and morals dissonance that seems to be the real fly in the ointment with vampires and "clean" mortal waifurs, I believe. We've already settled that a vampire can appear as human as they were previously; barring supernatural effects to obscure their undead nature, which is why I mentioned socialization being a key factor in potentially helping alleviate this problem. I doubt it would work that well in practice since eventually the waifur will die of old age and there should be a strong case for vampires being hunted/stigmatized, but for a setting that captures their life in the moment, I think that would be most interesting. Coming to grips with his infection/curse and how life (or a lack thereof) progresses. It places the male in a uniquely vulnerable state that the waifur can provide for him on and display her love through actions and will unfaltering in the face of such a terrible thing befalling her mate.
Is there anything more beautiful than a Nord man and a Nord woman finding love?
>>85025548Look, your last reply was really fucking bad and disingenuous, but if you wanted an actual discussion then I'm sorry it came out like this.There are many ways to explore "what makes someone a human", like I've said Paenitentia does it with republicans (bioengineering out the ass), mage MMC are somewhat popular in out of HMOFA romance for men, and stuff like cyborgs very much IS HMOFA, nobody will say that Adam Jensen isn't human.But you can clearly see that werewolves cross the line for most people for many reasons. Even you needed to make a heap of stipulations ala "can't be part of romance" "has to be uncontrolled" "becomes strictly a murderous beast" because you know that werewolves have been furfaggot territory for years and because being fucked by a dog is a popular female human fantasy as >>85025333 has show again and again with his fixation on it.
>>85025611no. as a matter of fact, nothing even comes close.
>>85025611>>85025629Nord men should be ashamed that the women have more hair on their chest than them
>>85025645
Post human men.
>>85025562You are no closer to a human male then a knife ear is, you stunty. You will never be a human male and you can't even pretend to be one.AND FUCK OFF FROM MY WIFE'S HOARD
>This is really Giga
>>85025648i have a lot of hair on my nipples, but i won't show you
>>85025534>So why are you adamant about sticking to the one that introduces a furry element to the story?I am not. You're simply being an insecure hypocrite and it annoys me.The transformation is explicitly a bad thing regardless of it's nature. It is never the equivalent of the HM turning into an AM, it is him turning into a monster that resembles nothing of who he is as a person. It is something to be hated and despised by both the HM and the FA as a loss of self and humanity. You could even use the idea of a werewolf transformation as a way for the FA to vent about the reasons she has a distaste for AM, with the werewolf being things like feral animal instinct taken to it's most extreme, and showing why she values a HM with enough indomitable human spirit to resist it.>With logic like yours you could argue that you can make an AxA story about a AM that behaves like a HM because "The story would play out exactly the same".That logic doesn't follow my example at all. Yes you could make an AxA story about overcoming a curse, you could even have the AM turn into a giant evil humanoid Frankenstein monster to have a parallel. Despite that, it would still remain an AxA story despite the nature of the curse, because the transformation isn't the point, it's the conflict that comes from overcoming it that matters.>>85025619>Because you know that werewolves have been furfaggot territory for yearsYou should've just said you don't trust werewolf stories because you're afraid that midwits will obsess over the transformation, instead of the conflict of the curse itself. Chances are you would've had everyone in agreement instead of whatever the hell you caused.
>>85025629>>85025611That's not a Nord woman! Look at the fur, at the tail, at the cat ears.THAT'S A KHAJIIT
>>85025571My example was a little facetious and overblown, but I treat the flesh monster as going sideways on the human-anthro scale. Like yes, it moves away from human, but it also doesn't move closer to anthro, retaining more of HM that way.Again, this is very much a shape argument.
What if the female anthro was cursed to become an elf during the full moon?
werewolves are not human
>>85025689If she's a dark elf that wouldn't be that bad
>>85025610Eeeeh... see, as you move forward with the loss of humanity, just like you've said, the story becomes less and less HMOFA. Same way a story about a human turning an immortal god at the start or midpoint will be less and less HMOFA as it progresses.Internalised mortality and other aspects of ingrained human culture are indivisible from the concept of an HM, and a creature that looses them stops being one.
hey look I solved it>has human MC transforming into a monster>still stays human though regardless of form>loss of humanity themes>acting out of character for his normal half>technically a curse >etc
Welp. I'm adding "werewolves" to the glossary of words to never say here. Glad to know this place is still filled with eggshells.
>>85025722nigger, a female werewolf counts as a female anthro, what makes you think the opposite would not be considered a male anthro
>>85025679Neither the flesh monster nor the werewolf retain any part of the HM that matters. They are both a disgusting perversion of what makes a man human, and should both be treated as such.>>85025689Horrible. I will trek to the ends of the earth to save her from this horrible curse.
>>85025671>I am notYet you are. That's why we're having this argument at all, because you are sticking to this very particular thing and demanding people say it's HMOFA.>insecure hypocriteSorry, are you that retarded faggot that claimed HMOFA is the exact same thing as blacked? I need to know how much time I wasted.>it's the conflict that comes from overcoming it that matters... so why use the transformation that turns the HM explicitly into an AM? You fail to adress this again and again.
>>85025722Oh, you are that disingenuous race fetishist.Kill youself.
>>85025722I'm just assuming it was false flagging because of something else.
>>85025732A female werewolf is a human female when it isn't a full moon though? At that point you might as well just make her a female anthro and be done with it.
>>85025722I really have no opinion one way or the other. But if you actually do care about this thread, just drop it at this point. It's a disagreement that's not worth shitting up the thread about
>>85025722Eh, is what it isPeople would unironically say that even an immortal human or undead human isn't in the spirit of /hmofa/
behold a human woman
>>85025733>retain any part of the HM that mattersYes, but one gives him aspects of an AM while the other gives him aspects of... nothing, I guess? Just a flesh horror.Like I've said, both move away from the HM, but one specifically turns him into an AM. That is the issue.Would the same story inverted, with the FMC being an anthro turning into a furrier monster be less HMOFA? You'll see that nobody would claim that because the transformation is clearly about becoming an anthro.
>>85025713>Internalised mortality and other aspects of ingrained human culture are indivisible from the concept of an HMMmm, I'm... a little more open-minded on how far a person can stray from the cultural impression of what humanity is, or rather, has become. We have a wide, varied history that is thankfully well-documented up to the last two thousand years. When I speak of moral dissonance, I'm generally referring to an "inhuman" sense of superiority over other humans, but that can also be handled in a different way as well, such as the vampire!HM feeling a very strong "otherness" when in the presence of his former human kin. Perhaps he doesn't think they're inferior, but he may see himself as such, even if his own acumen is largely unchanged and daily habits are only adjusted to account for nightlife only; incidentally the waifur can provide a grounding sense of support in this area as well.He may be changed, but he's still himself. Again, this depends on how you handle the slippery slope (to retake that phrase) of mental evolution or devolution that comes with vampirism.
Any hmofa story where the human isn't a sadsack loser working a deadend retail job and the love interest female anthro isn't a pathetic touch-starved freak who orgasms the instant she smells the HM's tighty whities isn't really hmofa.
I truly believe that some ideas can only emerge from the mind of a woman, or can only be most romantically exposited from one.
>>85025797You sound so hurt
>>85025783>Would the same story invertedThe FA being cursed into turning into a human-esc flesh monster would still be a hmofa story despite her becoming more "human" until cured.
Is it okay if the human is a bioengineered freak birthed from a vat onboard a spaceship?
>>85025811I'm assmad. I wanted the werewolf to fuck the female anthro because I like furry dick but instead everyone is arguing that the werewolf wouldn't fuck the female anthro because it's a monster.
>>85025797I prefer the stories about human males in retail who get raped by anthro karens.
>>85025829being born like a freak of nature far removed from nature itself does not undo one's inherent humanness
>>85025829>40k
>>85025829OK but does he have the 5-o'clock stubble, pronounced eye bags and baggy military jacket, this is really important
What if a human male had to fart really loudly after every orgasm.
>>85025784>depends on how you handle the slippery slopeOh, definetly. Like I've said before, someone like this guy is still very much human despite being an immortal for many years because he is still struggling with human issues. His humanity is not gone, maybe not even in the slightest.But someone like Alucard is so clearly not human that he retains nothing but the shape of one (and that's only when sealed).For what it's worth I stay on this >>85025555 point - either resolve the undeath before his humanity slips away or retain in till the end and make the ending a bitter/bittersweet one, clear that he isn't really a human any more.Even an immortal waifur would still not help at some point.Humans are mortal, that's one of the most important things for our psyche and soul.I think Agni from Firepunch is a good example of a human immortal, while Killy has pretty much lost his humanity and is more of automaton.
>>85025838Turning into a monster during the full moon doesn't undo one's inherent humanness either, but apparently all anons can think about is wolf dick instead of the bloodthirsty monster.
>>85025844kyle reese?
>>85025854i mean it kinda does, unless you're being sarcastic. i wasn't.
>>85025829Depends on the way you spin it.Like I've said, read Paenitientia for bioengineered psychos that still read as humans.
>>85025854Well yeah. What if the wolf dick's bigger than the human one? What if the waifur can't get the size and shape difference out of her head???
>>85025736>>85025744He fucking was.The retarded race shitter that thinks HMOFA is the exact same thing as blacked is the person who thinks werewolfs are HMOFA.Think about it.
>>85025736>Sorry, are you that retarded faggot that claimed HMOFA is the exact same thing as blacked?Absolutely fucking not, and I spent a fair amount of time calling him out for being retarded for insisting it was. Unfortunately, the way you argue and insist on frankly nonsensical logic makes you the exact kind of strawman that that faggot was using as a springboard for his claim.>so why use the transformation that turns the HM explicitly into an AM?For the same reason you would use a transformative curse at all, to play into the horror of losing what makes you human. That's the whole reason behind the original werewolf concept to begin with, not because people found it sexy, but because even in ancient times people have always been afraid of losing their humanity, and there's nothing less human than a rabid animal.Honestly judging by how you react to this, I'd have thought you'd have clung to the idea of the "anthro male" being shown as a disgusting subhuman monster that needs to be banished or slain.
Had a dream where we (the feds) were making a deal with anthro ninjas for precognition drugs to prevent crimeThere was like a bonsai test where someone (they picked me) had to shape a bonsai later found out the leaves from which make the drug apparently the test was just a chance to observe us to learn if our intentions were pure which it seems they were because I remember being told afterduring the test that if they were not that we would have all been cut down since they (the ninjas) were all high on their own supply of precognition drugs in anticipation of a trapMan I wish I had dreamt of Bridgette instead but I guess being a glowie of provably good intent I did dream of her in a way just not directly Don't nap at 4 in afternoon with the lights on kids you get weird shit like this
>>85025844unironically I think the "male horror protog fit" is the best default human MC outfit
>>85025857DUDE I JUST HAD THE BEST IDEA WHAT IF THE TERMINATOR WAS HMOFA
>>85025882How is my 3 inch penis supposed to compete with an imaginary 12 inch exotic pussy destroyer?! I can't compete with that! Immersion ruined, now all I can think of is the big furry wolf dick despite the scene focusing on the wolfman trying to eat and maul people.
>>85025885Apparently not, sorry >>85025886 I was too hasty.
You know theres /wifwolf/ n /awoo/ for this werewoof talk
>>85025913wifwolf got raped to death by Big Slop Cock (sad) ((many such cases))
>>85025915Well, when in Rome...
>>85025854>>85025882>>85025907I wish we could kill all cucks
>>85025886>you'd have clung to the ideaThat's the issue, I don't see a turn to an anthro male as a sufficient loss of humanity. I like anthro males in more ways than one, I just understand why the shape doesn't work for the HM part of HMOFA.
>>85025923>bring up animal cock>project it to everyone>have a meltie about itAnd it's not the first time he does it too,
>>85025934The Raped is very odd.
>>85025922Still totally wicked that somebody managed to obtain the rest of these from someone Faust knows. A few of which were never even shared in /adhg/ originally, either. Great stuff.Now if only the secret Hao lewds were available... I know she made them...
>>85025934Yeah these werewolffags are fucking embarrassing. Fully mask off
is female human on female anthro ok
>>85025963is hollow point round x your brain ok
>>85025887Actually do nap at 4 pm with the lights on and also eat something before that to get weird dreams.I haven't had any dreams for several years but the visual noise and digestion keep me just barely awake for a close approximation to happen and I sometimes see my waifur in there.
>>85025963human females are never ok
>>85025923Either my sarcasm detector is broken or all of those posters are being tongue in cheek.
>>85025977Tongue in werewolf cheeks
>>85025959Honestly wolves and canines in general attract the worst postersNo surprise there.Total canid death
>>85025963No but hfoam is, as long as the AM is a feminized sissy
>>85025988Balls deep in werewolf cheeks as I reach around and stroke him untill he can't even form coherent words.
>>85025996Not gay because anthro men are women
>>85025994That's disgusting and you should kill yourself.
>>85025977Sarcasm is serious business.
>>85025963It's tolerated on a tentative basis, although if some artist were to stroll in and suddenly dedicate themselves to rather tasteful content on the matter I'd frankly assume it would quickly lead to a tiresome amount of debate. As a rule, the spicier you get, the more polarizing your content trekking out of bounds tends to be. Yuri is a very obnoxiously shoehorned subject in a lot of western media these days, and it would need a lot of heavy lifting to become fashionable here in the long-term. I don't really see it working.
>>85025977They are, but ironic retardation is still retarded. They aren't making the blackedfag look any worse than he already made himself look, they're just making themselves equally as annoying.