General for discussion of Human Domestication Guide & related fiction.Cosmic Navy Edition>What is HDG?HDG is a collective kink writing project about the Affini (an advanced precursor civilization from outer space), who aggressively care for every other species in the universe. They have finally turned their glittery eyes on future grimderp hypercapitalist nightmare humanity. Using their natural charisma and various classes of Xenodrugs, they aim to make Florets (d̶o̶c̶i̶l̶e̶,̶ ̶d̶r̶u̶g̶ ̶a̶d̶d̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶p̶e̶t̶s̶ loved and cared for individuals) of us all! But don't worry, they always have everyone's best interests at heart, even if their methods aren't even remotely consensual~>Where can I read it?Read the original story here https://readonlymind.com/@GlitchyRobo/HumanDomesticationGuide/or check other stories on ROM https://readonlymind.com/search/?q=%23Human_Domestication_Guideor Ao3 https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Human%20Domestication%20Guide%20-%20GlitchyRobo/worksor the wiki: https://hdg.wiki/Previous thread that isn't going to be digitized because mistress got bored of them: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/84918648/
>>85051219I had no idea that TCN careers could turn you into a delicious mocha tomboy. Maybe we've been too hard on them...
>>85051350what you yapping aboutthese are our MANNLY, STRONG WARIORSTRUE patriots of the accordUUURAH
>>85051219>second to leftFEET
Apparently the other affini don't like it when you let give your digifloret lots of bodies and let her "larp" battles.
>>85051486two of them are women. the third is a twink that i'm going to tie to my bed until he's a woman
>>85051621LIES! SLANDER!There are NO women in the cosmic navy! These are all GLORIOUS, PATRIOTIC MEN!Their personell file says so!
>>85051596Its fine mostly, it just creates a lot of debris
Affini who continues their floret's forcemasc hypno sessions from the TCN because it just makes him so happy.
bap!!!!
Affini that casually encourages impressionable indies to take more drugs
>>85053230she sounds cool
Affini who notices I have trouble sleeping sometimes so she gives me class-E so I don’t get scared and snakes her vines down my throat and into my lungs making sure my airway is fully open and does vine feeding but for my needing to breathe. I can completely and totally relax and she will breathe for me. I say I have to pee and even though I’m not in a diaper she says to just pee and she’ll take care of it. She gives me more class-E and I piss into some kind of receptacle or something and I don’t care I just feel better now.I ask if I can please have class-Z to just sleep and she says she knows I want to be able to sleep the regular way too so she’s going to make that possible until I’m implanted and it’s never a problem again.Before I can protest I feel her stick a fucking massive xenodrug injector into some vein on my body somewhere and she says it’s class-Z-wl. She saw in my search history that I looked up whether falling asleep is death so she’s going to somehow manually perform the functions that sleep does on my brain and body. Somehow. And give me enough class-Z-wl that I have incredibly vivid waking dreams as part of her plan somehow.I start to cry despite the class-E and she shushes me and says she knows I’ve had trouble sleeping and that it’s always made me a little scared but I don’t have to worry about anything like that anymore. I can trust her. She’ll take care of everything.I’m vaguely aware of the fact that this started with me yawningWhen we were talking about finalizing my domestication contractIn the domestication center oh my fucking Everbloom I’m in public panic panic panic!!!!!!Somehow through her biorhythm she lets me know that only other affini are nearby to see this which causes the fear to turn to arousal terrifyingly quickly.The last thing I perceive before letting the dream state overtake me is a very snug and well lubricated pleasure graft sliding into place as other affini approach
>>85053672waow waow woaeh woahg woahg hfue sqwow. woah wow mng. wow
Floret who gave up fighting, but never properly "broke", so now she's obedient but still not happy about being a pet. Her affini is a bit miffed about this, honestly; it completely throws her plans for a spectacular, slow, weeks-long breaking out of whack! She's debating to herself whether she should let her floret come around in her own time or just pump her full to the eyeballs with Class Cs and be done with it.
indie that's such a seed they're worried they're going to fall for the first affini they meet, but they really want to be sure they've found their... whatever a soulmate equivalent is for an owner
>>85054430>spectacular, slow, weeks-long breakingmeanie...
>>85054892I believe the term is 'forever home'
Floret with an affini who’s busy often and so they get to stay with her extremely close friend, who the floret loves more than anyone else except for their owner. Both finni are very loving and give their florets a long leash, but second finni has two much less active and energetic florets of her own and so the energy in her hab totally and completely changes when this other floret stays over.
>>85056642Flort that fucks the friendffini florts...
Is the 1999 series any good? I thought it sounded like it might be, but it's effectively a crossover, and HDG crossovers tend to be deeply, deeply stupid, and I don't want to start it if it's going to end up like that. I started on another Affini/real life one, and it also looked good, but also ended up disappointing me.
lazy stupid flort
>>85057367I think I read it a while ago, it was ok but think it had time travel or somethingit wasn't really what I expected, which was just a conventional "affini invade in 1999 and normal stuff happens" story
>>85057973That's kind of what I wanted (a conventional story would be so shoehorned it's not even funny). I'm mostly looking for whether it shows respect toward the real life setting (the other one I read didn't, which is why I didn't like it, and why a lot of HDG crossovers are so bad)
>>85057973I’m assuming nona is talking about the Kanagen one that got an update today, which doesn’t have time travel (not before the most recent fic in the series anyway, I haven’t read that one yet).
>>85051219i wonder what these four would end up like after being florted,. just look at them
>>85059310Yeah, I saw it when it updated and thought it could be good, but could also be pretty bad, and the series was long enough I didn't want to start it if I didn't know I'd like it.
>>85053672every need anticipated.. you don't even have to worry about feeling bad for it, she'll take care of everything. you can finally just let go and trust. why won't Mommy handle literally everything I could ever possibly want for me I need it!!
Affini that pets you very hard
firstbloom who accidentally kills you
>>85063731Flort that cums anyway
feral who is already broken
>>85064442feral that starts broken and plommy has to teach them how to get a spine
Indie that teases her affini friends by hugging them just slightly too long. The length of time is different for each friend; one affini needs like an hour long hug before she starts to wonder if it means anything, for another just slightly nuzzling in has her injectors dripping.Indie who is in more danger than she realizes.
>>85065715Floret thats gonna just wake up in a thicket one day and not know how they got there.
The three types of florets
>>85066870I'm absolutely a type three please put me to use please I want nothing more than to be productive and useful please
>>85066894oh no, why is this such a critical hit... I'm definitely type one.
>>85066894I am so type 2 it physically hurts.
>>85066870I'm somewhere in the bottom middle
>>85066894I'm easily a 1 and 3 cross despite being a huge pervertdneef bait really
>>85051568It is a strategic choice, having your hogs out means you can press 10 more buttons at the same time (saves money on control automation AND on shoes)
I honestly think the yeah cocktail would fix memaybe add some class-Gs to the mix, though
I wanna be a snuggly cuddly flort so badddd
Thank you artspam nona, verry coolwe used to get like, maybe 10 imager per thread lol, topsits aprechiated
>>85069405aww, you're welcome.There's just a lot of really good hdg art out there and I check every day to see if there's any good new artHere's a newish one with an accompanying poem:Do you know?Do you know what you are?Do you know what you will be?Do you know that you're changing?Do you know what awaits you?Do you know the cost of florethood?Do you know how it feels to break?Do you know how it feels to watch your world come apart?Do you know what love is?Do you know eternity?When the dust settles,When your world has finally put itself back together,When you come to,When the first sight of your new world is the most beautiful thing in the Universe...you will.
pleasure grafts going between the legs and hanging close to the ground @_@
>>85069636Smartass weeds, won't let me throw my life away, I hate them so much.
>>85069715I'm sorry petal, but the haustoric implant will make sure you can't die on a snowy well-lit night, like other ferals wish they could experience.Might I suggest some class-Ms and a rest in the winter ring? It may be fun to pretend.
>>85069715But plommy loves you sooooo much!
thank u for the art and also the dog dichotomy
>>85069636i still call this a victorysimilar logic as with trek style teleports or brain-scan style digitization applies: If my brains totaly and properly dead, and you reboot it... well that aint me. Atleast not, ME me, you know? Its a new instance being spun up of the same software, and its a shame it's doomed... so not complete victory. But ME me, thats gone and I've won. Suck it weed.
>>85070199Nah, she just revived you. digitization (either through implant overgrowth or brainscan) does exist though! you can even have your own ramet as a connivent!
>>85070199I mean with a glock and regenerated neural matter, I could almost see an argument, but it'd just about as easy for an Affini to just snap your neck, snap it back and uncrimp the veins. Then its still all the same meat of you, without having to remake anything. And then you're also still kind of alive for a pretty decent while even as just meat anyway, so there's no real way to say in confidence that it isn't you anymore unless everything is being replaced.
>>85070451That would probably fix so many neck pains right now
>>85070480Chiropractorffini that completely disassembles your skeleton then puts it back together without the pain
>>85070547Honestly, I don't have it, but there was some really well-made art of a doll floret who just has her whole nervous system removed regularly. It was kinda freaky in a good way!
>>85070441>>85070451i guess i just have a very particular way i define the self, in the strictest of terms. Sometimes i forget it isnt universally accepted, lol.The idea is, what can really define ME? Cause it cant, infact, be matter. My answer to the ship of theseus is that it is infact the same ship at the end still.So what does define it? Continuity. At all points, you have a ship. You never STOP having a ship. So its the same ship.Same with "me": there is continuity of brain activity. Even when we fall into deep sleep, or a coma or get KO gas'd or ect ect, your brains never truely actually "Off". Some activity remains. That is what defines "ME". A contiously running process.If you then stop that process - fully stop it. Thats death, yea? Thats how brain death is defined, infact, yes?IF you go there, and then restart the brain after... well, its not me. Arguably, its "closer" to me than in the teleport case, cause the hardware may be the same. But the important continuity has been broken. You stopped having a ship, for a while. Therefore what returns after is not the same ship.
>>85070960Believe me, it gets even stranger when you're plural. Because you're just an alter, one of many.And alters can die while the body lives on.How does THAT work?Personally I'm hoping long-term dormancy isn't death but I've been kinda reading up on Fernando Pessoa and he kinda literally had his favorite headmate die and never come back.
>>85070960but yeah, I kinda assume if you have the same matter and the same memory, you're still you?Hell I don't even have all my memories most days
>>85068786You know, I never realized this girl was supposed to have an erection in this image before.>>85069361Oblivious affini x absolutely cooked well-done 'independent' is my favorite genre.
>>85071151mine too
>>85070960I agree with this, but I feel like it becomes weird because points in time can't really be pinned down.Like if someone stopped time, would you view that as everyone dying and being revived, since the process got paused and then resumed.And what if you lived in some simulation, and the process got slowed down super duper slowly, like one neuron firing every 100 years. In between the process or neurons activating, where nothing is really going on, wouldn't you kinda be dead, yet from your own perspective you'd consider yourself alive and time would pass as normal from your own perspective.
>>85070960I think only existing as the single connection between body and mind is both reductive of the human experience, and terrifying. I do not like the thought of the self being that fragile, even if the body is.
you know, even after well over a year now being around the setting and this thread, im still not sure what i'd react like if they actually showed upi think theres like, a 50% chance i just continue as i am now, going with the flow, staying indie unless someone seduces me or takes an interest or somethinga 25% chance i'd just *immediately* go volunteerand 25% chance i'd go genuine completely unironic fanatic ferral
>>85071363I'm going to bite the first finni I see and just let whatever happens happen.
>>85071363I'd likely wait until the domestication centers are open, ask my girlfriend if she wanted to go get domesticated with me or not.And if not, I'd probably stay indie for a bit. But I give it a year tops before I succumb to the call of forethood.
>>85071333a time stop would be a 100% non issue in my view. Its a bit hard to put into words, but like, it didnt actually happen? If you know what i mean. Hard concept to explain. (something something how does king crimson work)the second part uhhhhhh is a legitmate argument though. Its hard to defeat.You could, verry easily, spin that thought-thread into the nihilistic view that concousness is infact an illusion, and a clump of carbon with fancy electrochemical processes happening in it is not more "alive" than a rock in truth.Buttttt, thats a bit too far for me even, haha.Lemme try to argue with science!So, first of all, the brain contains ALOT of neurons, yes?I strongly suspect that due to the sheer number of neuron and connections, it is infact statistically IMPOSSIBLE to find any moment in time without a single neuron firing. You'd have to math that out though, and im not going to.Then theres also the fact that a neuron that is NOT currently firing is of course not completely "dead"/inactive - its still got verry interesting stuff happening inside it, doing its calculation on the inputs recived or whatever goes on internaly, while it *prepares* to fire.
>>85071334i can agree that its terrifying, but i dont see how its reducitve in any way. Are you going for a spiritual angle here, or what?
>>85071523I think I'd like ferret ears and a ferret tail, in a nekomimi way
>>85070609oh I need to see this but I have no idea where I'd even start to search lol
>>85071885found it searching hdg-art for "doll" in the official hdg discord
>>85071653I live a very spiritually touched life and percive existance as the connections between mind, body, and soul.Its how I understand that things are, not just an angle I want to see, I believe there are things that we are incapable of interacting with or percieving that have a very deliberate and meaningful impact on our lives. I think the soul is as attacted to the nervous system, as the mind is attached to the brain, and that while something or someone could exist without either, it cannot be considered fully entirely alive without both operating in tandem and that imitations of the effects of both without one or the other are visibly obvious. Art for instance, can be bad, be cause the artist made it without the basis of understanding of what makes art good, and AI Art, which while having convential quality, still findementally lacks some element of expression inherent to human made art even of terrible quality.
>>85071961thanks i hate itdollfags are another breed of fucked up than the rest of hdg, i swear mani get the loss of controll = hot angle not the this shit bordering on guro lol
>>85071594Yea, I sort of agree... I'm just also kinda stumped there. Maybe one signal turning off is an on switch for another, and there's always lit up sections. Assuming neurons would all go dark might not be true. Something would have to be going on for them to even light up again in 100 years.>it is infact statistically IMPOSSIBLE to find any moment in time without a single neuron firingI'm not even sure what a moment in time is, or if time itself is derives from stuff happening.All in all, reality is weird. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just an endless sequence of fleeting moment of alive inheriting past memories and passing them on to the next, none the wiser of how much I'm dying.
>>85072003Yea, well that makes a lot of sense then. Of course you'd find it reductive.Im a strict materialist myself, but thats a can of worms we dont need to step into right now unless you want to, my edgy reddit atheist days are long behind me lol
>>85072019well I was hesitant on posting it.doll/robot stuff is hot, but that image is kinda body horror lol
>>85072032yea, you can get really really whacky with these fundamentals. As far as common consensus goes, the closet thing we have to a distinct moment in time is the plank-time, which is the smallest unit of time that can possibly be measured. Anything shorter gains such uncertainty that it stops being meaningfully distinct, stops making sense. But if you want that to make any amount of sense, you gotta go listen to a course on advanced quantum physics, bwahahaha.More esoteric concepts do exist, of course, such as time being not real, and evrything actuall exists all at once. Or something about the universe actually being a hologram and shit. But thats all uhhhhh, wierd babbling, haha.
>>85072395:)
I think today I'm gonna get drunk, watch some star wars, and yearn until the affini arrive
>>85071961>>85072019funny enough the furry level is what bothers me but I am a longtime guro and body horror enjoyerthank you for finding it in any case anon
>>85068812wow this is great
>>85070735what pride flag is that
>>85073135TerranUUURAH!
>>85071961nope nope nope nope nope feralist propagamda fake
>>85073379some florets are just really freaky like that
Affini who murders you. (adds you into her murder of crow modded florts)
Affini who plays minecraft in her own model and constantly asks if you want to turn into her own jenny mod~
>"m-mistress, just because i like the way i'm treated here doesn't mean i like being a pet..."
>>85073667god i love being cleaned/bathed concept so much for some reasonespechally with the mind melt shampoo
>>85073691RIGHT?!it's so goodI should honestly get some thc oil or tincture and try to make it real.
>>85073717loll i dont think thc can be applied topically
>>85073953I mean if cbd can, thc must be able to
>>85074512this does not follow
>>85073953>>85074512people in analgen sometimes discuss THC contraining lubeso it must be possible
>>85074647well, that makes more sense as if it's applied anally, then you're getting a high dose straight to the bloodstream.god. I bet that'd feel great.
>>85074647ur intestinal walls r a lot more permeable than ur skin nonathats why ur supposed to take ur prog up the butt
mostly what i would like out of an owner is Nice to me and likes to cuddle
ffini that lets me climb inside them and curl up around the core for my naps
>>85074647>>85074710lol I tried that years ago and I don't think it worked
>time stopAffini domesticating stand users. Now there's an idea. Trying to anyway, there's some where it would be rather hard
>>85075648time stop is powerful, but dio can only do it for like 10 seconds at a timeI wonder if his vampire physiology makes him immune to drugs
>>85075674Probably. Hypnosis would be a much better bet than drugs. Even if they did sort of work his biochemistry isn't human and has all sorts of weird magic shit going on in it.
Funny Valentine would be harder to domesticate than Dio. A lot harder. Once his stand is upgraded by the corpse of Jesus Christ (yes, really) it gains an ability called Love Train that displaces “any misfortune” on to others. Something is going to hurt him and instead of kills a bunch of random farmers. Johnny has to shoot a bullet with the power of infinity to kill him by eliminating him in every possible universe
Mommy affini who gives her floret such a long leash that he’s basically an outdoor cat or a rescue animal living in a sanctuary. Spends many hours outside of the hab and might have his own dedicated section inside her hab like how animals have rooms where they’re kept.Mommy affini who has to leave for administrative business and wants her floret to be kept safe while she’s gone, and knows he loves seeing other parts of the universe, so she takes him to stay with her close friend of many blooms who her floret loves to death.Mommy affini who tells him that her friend isn’t used to having a wild cat floret and to be good for her okay? But she treats him almost identically and if anything gives him more freedom than his existing affini does.Mommy affini who hates to leave her floret for any amount of time at all but knows he loves her friend too and he’s already such a good playmate for her doggy florts!(There is no end to this post I just like imagining myself as the cat floret being so loved and taken care of and stuff)
>>85076484Its okay petal, you're very much a cutie.
Catflort that a has run into the wall several times chasing lasers
Are Terrans who oppose domestication hypcrites? Yes... yes they are. If dogs being pets to their intellectual betters is okay than so is Terrans being pets to their intellectual betters.
>>85077994Better coordinated catflort who tears up the hab carpeting getting the laser over and over again https://youtube.com/shorts/ii-hIvLrrco
emergency bap
>be feral flort>warming up to my affini>decide to let my guard down for once and talk to her candidly>taking off my emotional armor for her, because i'm beginning to trust her>i accidentally say something i'm not supposed to and she wastes no time in correcting and reprimanding me>shuffle off to my room as quickly as possible after she lets me go>cry into my pillows and stuffed animals while committing to never let my guard down around her again
>>85079559Posting stuff like this on the overnet to troll the affini
>>85079559literally me
>>85079559what did u say
>>85079559horror stories to turn the neediest seed into a neurotic feralist mess.
>>85082074Floret who gets overgrowth digitized only for their affini to get bored of them and adopt a new floret they love way more
>>85082467Cuckflort
Floret that knows people on florchan tell lies
new floret who keeps crying and asking their owner if they can go home soon
>>85082467maybe the new floret will like u tho. I would still love mistress even if she was tired of me
>>85079559sad poor baby floret stories for firstblooms in terran space
>>85085530whets their appetite and desire to make one of those sweet little apes the happiest, most-loved pet in the universe
>>85085980perhaps if they consume enough of the sad floret stories they'll be extra nice and gentle with me. even i'm a feral
>>85051730