The looner edition What
Has a fetish ever died out because popular culture stopped using it?
>>85059831I feel like the boxing fetish has died It used to have it's own fairly large internet community to the point there was multiple websites dedicated to it but now there's fucking nothing
I want more porn that values male virginity.
Are you +alive+intact Or are you +alive-intact?If -alive-intact you probably can't answer this.
Parasitic infestations for vorefags, especially the fatal ones because being a forced incubator of life probably is their worst nightmare anyways.
>>85059711can he breathe in there
>>85061947He's a furryFurries don't need to breatheThat's why they can live in a butthole all year
>>85060000What caused it? was it just replaced by wrestling
>>85059831I remember there was some giant heart fetish. And I mean like a heart bugling from the chest. Also supposedly a chain smoking fetish had a decent sized community on the internet. Those 2 are the only ones I can think of
>>85060402does permanently being stuck in a tf count as intact? because my old body for sure isn't!
>>85062424I remember pictures of that kind of thing used to be some of the only cardiophilia results on e621. quite frankly not what I personally would be looking for, but perplexing nonetheless
>>85064175That's a new one. What are some other really specific philias?
>>85060000Despite the quads, as a general ryona enjoyer, that garbage has always poisoned the tag with dumb bullshitEven an actual streetfight would look better because whoever made the bulk of that stuff did it very poorly so consistently that it baffles meNever saw a single good example of it In that vein, I despise that most sites barely differentiate between guro and ryonaReally tagging in general is fucking dying and it pisses me off
>>85065490Now that sounds familiar
>>85059711>balloon pred
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>>85070546AV
>>85062424>>85064175There's one specific amateurish artist I knew about that was very into this. Its clearly another fetish derived from old cartoon tropes and I do see some of the eroticism as long as it doesn't lean into the gore realm.
>>85070690>checks aryion>it is in fact, tagged AV
>>85070546god i need a balloon to show me up its latex butthole so bad
>>85070546the object fuckers paved the way to the object vorers
>>85070750To add they really loved bulging nose stuff too. Are those wires crossed on the stimuli map in a similar way that leads to finding feet hot?Haven't seen anything from them in years.
>>85070546I like this, but only because it reminds me of jellyfish vore, the few that exist.
>>85070798You used to swallow objects The objects now swallow you
>>85070894I have an alien that swallows that way but it was imagined by a raging endo purist godhead so expect to be kept inside it km below surface level as an unwilling endosymbiote exploiting the warmth of your endothermic ass for energy because the concept of digesting swallowed things was written out of the fabric of reality.Speaking of which, any crazy bending of reality other people with specific kinks have done to universally enforce them?
>>85070894Evolution 2001 film had a scene where a guy drenched in shampoo went up a giant amoeba alien's buttholeI wonder if some people got influenced by that
>>85070981can it let in water so I start drowning or is that not endo approved
When did this become the vore thread 2.0
>>85071168>evolution>war of the worlds remake>nopeare these all anal vore analogs?
>>85059831Quicksand still has some popularity but most people talk about it in discord or websites dedicated to it
>>85071209Basically all forms of enveloping and engulfing gets aggregated to a "vore" thing. You realize this when you make the bondage gear sentient.Full circle, the mechanism of bondage fused with the dom.
>>85071427>DiscordHate.Its unbelievable how badly this proprietary shitheap has fractured sharing of anything on the internet and turned the psycho cliqueness up to 11.
>>85070981>crazy bending of reality other people with specific kinks have done to universally enforce themI don't get this. Aren't most extreme fetishes bending reality?
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Robotfuckers fascinate me, especially the ones into destruction and machine gore. I wish I could take a microscope and look inside their heads to see what really makes robots tick for them.
>>85071765In-universe mad fetish god imposing the occurrence of kinks it fixates on and does cruel and unusual punitive retaliations to those who defy it is a bit distinct from that but I get why you mean on how reality gets bent usually anyways. People don't suffocate unless they want to be suffocated.
>>85071903It goes along with the idea of autists generally having body image issues and becoming fixated on something technological. I'm not a huge robo fetishist but I'd also just love to have an ideal mechanical form rather than dealing with all my failing biological nonsense, the in concept simplicity and ability to just rebuild is appealing.Destruction goes into the same classification as vore and is adjacent to gore, I see it as a replacement for it, for people who are grossed out by that. FNAF is the big elephant in the room here too. Without the massive explosion in animatronic fucking I don't think you'd see the amount of zoomers with protogen OCs and spinoffs etc
>>85072048>I see it as a replacement for it, for people who are grossed out by that.If we're also not talking permanent destruction, robots have a 'logical' reason to being able to just come back from 'death'. Replace some parts and that's that, you can have all your fatalistic impulses fulfilled without the nothingness. Just my take.
>>85071903it's not my biggest fetish but I do find some robots hot. as doms, I find the idea of mechanical strength surpassing that of a normal creature attractive, a robot would have no problem overpowering a sub and have ridiculous stamina for sex. and from the submissive perspective, being turned robotic has really interesting body horror implications and you could literally be programmatically controlled.
>>85072213also, there's this kink for feral replacement limbs, where a character gets mechanical limbs replacing their usual ones. the idea of having your body changed like that and that also potentially being able to be remote controlled is really appealing to me.
>>85072213>submissive perspective, being turned robotic has really interesting body horror implications and you could literally be programmatically controlled.Not sure if a lot of autistis really see it as horror. Generally as a living being you're controlling an unweildy machine you barely know how to maintain and may even be fairly clumsy in locomoting at all. Plus all of the issues with stimuli. Another perspective is it essentially being a subconscious wish to not have to make all your decisions anymore. Sure yeah there's the eroticism of loss of control and that is the main bit, I don't see it as all there is psychologically. >>85072261Samesies.
>>85071536Luckily people post stuff on FA but it's not just Discord that has stuff you don't see on FAThere's a Telegram furry QS community that keeps a QS themed VRchat world behind their bars because the creator is too insecure about normalfags finding and reacting to QS content as if he can't just publish his fetish shit on an alt account entirely detached from his main somehowAt least there are loads of other QS themed worlds to play on nowadays though
>>85072213>>85072261>>85071903and as for robot gore, I think it can be explained similarly to any other "soft" alternate gore types, a fascination with body horror themes, wanting to be treated roughly in a kinky way but using less graphic types like candy or plushie gore as escape from the more gruesome proper blood. destroying a robot just doesn't have the same consequence, so it can be seen as a way of exploring gore for people who dislike the implications of usual gore
>>85072375>exploring gore for people who dislike the implications of usual goreNot just implications, many people have a visceral reaction to just seeing blood. Not exactly something they want to retreat when pleasuring themselves. Its not always just a matter of opinion or taste.
>Hard vore that is technically also safe vore because it’s just someone chomping a leg or arm off from an axolotl person whose limbs regrow.
>>85064175I didnt think there would be anything newer than the early 00s. The only mention of it I've seen was on some old artwork and I didnt save it as I am not really interested in it
>>85073963There's been more since it is just very niche. E621 barely gets any of the obscure stuff.
>>85074047become the sole uploader who keeps it alive on e6
>>85074952Eh, I'd just rather disenfranchise E6 than bother trying to submit things there. Can't stand their ownership and moderators.
Sometimes you have to embrace being a giga bastard.
>>85060094this but in gay porn
there should be a fetish where stds are beneficiallike giving you a bigger dick, making you muscular :3
>>85071168I wasn't influenced because I was already into it.
>>85059831>>85062424The chainsmoking fetish died when the chainsmokers died. A few years back there were some YouTube videos falling down the rabbit hole of showing channels where people had this fetish and filmed themselves smoking, the channel owners eventually dying from it.
>>85076446Vaping fetish?
>>85076972lithium batteries expanding and growing is absolutely bait for inflation and peril scenarios
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>>85077095I remember someone snarkily saying "What's next, drinking battery acid as a fetish?" or something to that effect in response to discovering a bunch of stereotypical DeviantArt fetishes because they were so weirded out by the fact that they all supposedly end in death.So, genuinely, is that a thing?
>>85077311im in the looner / inflatable scene and people have absolutely made toys inspired by them, yes.
>>85077311>anthropomorphic battery that charges itself by draining furriesthere i invented a new fetish
>>85059711One thing that stood out to me about Kronos Unveiled is that it doesn't map cleanly to any more common fetishes, like Kaa is to hypnosis or Violet Beauregarde is to inflation. OP pic got me thinking it's probably closest to balloons, just made of sticky shiny black leather and unstoppably self-inflating. It's just such an incredibly specific and unique scenario rather than a color aesthetic like the other two. Are there any other examples of such fetishes based on one scene from (usually "family-friendly") media?
>>85077680Looner, latex, peril, asphyxiation, inflation. take your pick! fwiw i draw looner stuff and i have mutuals with kronos unveiled artists
>>85077680One I can think of, also from a Pixar film, funnily enough. When it made me "feel funny" it was from a suffocation standpoint, but the few other people who've made material for it seem to emphasize the aspect of some sort of life/soul energy being forcibly sucked out, in the original context scream power. And of course peril, with how the victim is helplessly bound to a chair as the big scary machine slooooowly extends closer.>>85077636Imagine the Scream Extractor but sentient, like the Suck-O-Matic from Rocko's Modern Life, mercilessly draining all that precious energy and filling its battery belly. Maybe even a giant wall of millions and millions of victims like in the Matrix.
>>85077680As some dude who is into furry inflation, latex and other stuff, this isn't really feeling it for me. Its like its trying to please me in every direction, but I don't feel it, ironically enough.
>>85077936Is there a name for this phenomenon, having difficulty focusing on multiple types of sexy at once?
>>85077311>So, genuinely, is that a thing?Snuff fetish has been a thing for about as long as written language. The why hasnt changed very much compared to the how
you want to know what really pisses me off? revenge fantasy captions, like I get people shouldn't be dicks but by subjecting asshats to fetish scenario's your just indirectly proving their point.
>>85077910do you have a thing for all vacuums or just the scream extractor?
>>85077910that begs the question if a scream extractor could extract laughs, would that be wholesome?
sometimes i wonder if i'm addicted to eating, like, my god, i start eating and want to keep going, like, if it was up to me i feel like i wouldnt stop. i guess i have the appetite of a feedee?
>>85078031.. overstimulation?
>>85078283>your just indirectly proving their pointI dont think the kind of people who make revenge fantasy captions about real people are being completely honest about their side of the stories behind said captions
>>85078712I mean does the idea of fattening yourself up arouse you?
>>85078840I guess but it just leaves a bad taste and comes off as really petty or outright dumb, like if you want to be humiliated just say so instead of dancing around it.though I prefer cute/sweet captions so maybe I don't have any skin in the game.
>>85078853yeah but i've always had a fat fetish in me so
>>85079781>Wow furries r quirky and they have ownership of magical realms and kinky because keep furry weird*! :)) People have been joking about directors and writers and GMs building around a fetish they have for decades. But they have to act like they're doing a "I'm a quirky kinky furry uwu" thing. Why are they such a Narcissistic fandom that thinks they are the only people who do weird shit?
>>85078744I don't know about you but when autistic people started using the phrase "stimming" legitimately thought it was a weird sex thing like you could've used literally any other word but you choose the one that makes it sound like you jack off to repeating the same bit over and over?
>>85080000the term "the magical realm" has existed for years.
>>85059831I don't know why, but the first thing that came to my mind is the exact opposite. A fetish that, as far as I know, only has a single example in popular culture: Blueberrying. Willy Wonka ruined so many kids, and not just with his death trap of a factory.
>>85080350there are sexual stims so... close enough?
>>85070894I'm surprised Jellyfish vore isn't more of a thing since they literally vore whatever they eat
I miss Rouge the fuckmeat threads
>>85078844Took me a minute to figure out a feeding thingMy dumbass thought it was some oxygen tank and she was an astronaut
>>85081548that's because jellyfishes can't be easily turned into generic wolves or anthro-fied so it gets ignored by most artists, and the fishfuckers would rather put attention onto other aquatic beings before jellyfishes due to visual appeal alone
>>85080000Maybe confirmation bias, maybe threat detectorsAs a non-furry, one notices them immediately because of the revulsion to bestiality, but plenty of people are obnoxious about itBecause of your quads, I'll post a comic about it I resonate with and torments me the same way
>>85082551
>>85082551Your archetype gets off on extrapolating the ontological implications of something that can only work within a self-contained diegetic context.Reality is flawed. Trying to make a fantasy work within its constraints is an act of compromise, above it all.
>>85081019>death trap of a factoryFamily friendly peril is responsible for a chunk of fetishes. Used to think the fizzy lifting drinks scene was scary. Someone probably blasts ropes thinking about being shredded to pieces by an industrial fan.
I believe everyone into vore who doesn't like endosoma should be infested with parasites, banished to the endless bowel gulags and have their orifices nullified
>>85081476yeah but like nobody is getting sexually aroused by quoting a shitpost from 2 decades ago.
>>85083863Despite having theirs mouths full out of eating people at any given time, vorefags can't ever shut up about how much they enjoy vore.
>>85083898their the footfags of the eating world.
>>85083898Remove all their orifices and make them have to live off sunlight and nutrient paste applied to their skin
>>85083863>this just leads to nullification zone absorption fetishes
I think Diapers unfairly get a bad rep but I understand why that is as the over lap of ab and dl is very large
I prefer speedos
>>85081608No, it's the Scream Extractor, like we were discussing beforehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIH8OLT7XWA>some oxygen tank and she was an astronautKind of the opposite of that, come to think of it
>>85083950>be into diapers for like +5 years>think I'm gonna have the fetish for the rest of my life>randomly completely lose interest in them out of the bluelike I'm not disgusted by it or anything but now it's just like "meh it doesn't turn me on anymore" has this happened to anyone else?
>>85084002I've never seen this movie. Can't imagine how fucking confused you felt during your sexual awakening watching this.
>>85083292Maybe in a grander sense you're right for less carnal consumption, but narrative and how it assists verisimilitude trumps everything else in salacious fantasy.Fucking your sister isn't ever as important as how you're allowed/forced/convinced/tricked/coerced to. Almost always that's hotter than the actual fuck suck goosh goosh wallpapering.
>>85084105Its because you already know how it will play out.The "how it gets to that point" is the space where creativity can actually flow through.Ngl, anytime I am lfp, get a PM from someone and I go to ask them what they have in mind, that is the actual litmus test of it all.If the person can't be bothered to concieve at least a bit on the spot, or tries to weasel around it, or worse, gives a disingenuous answer or tries to push the question back on me ("I don't know, what do you like?"), it is very much a red flag as far as I am concerned.Ignorance, incapacity, laziness, mood...the reason matter not to me. What goes is that the person doesn't perform up to standards.
>>85084302No fucking clue what lfp is.I would complain about erping with people, but I haven't done it meaningfully in so long that it's basically not a hobby anymore.I've always done more non-erotic roleplaying but trying to interact with people to erp nowadays is like screaming through frosted glass and the only thing they seem to recognize are trite symbols and signals of very astroturfed fetishes as if they don't have the possibility of doing anything and everything.
>>85084640Lfp means looking for play, anon.It be like that nowadays. People are more driven towards instant gratification as of late, so the scene has became less homely, more transactional.You're not wrong about the symbolism therein, the fetishes are the common agreggator and what usually bridges the gap between people, but when a limited symbol is mistaken for the full breadth of what it represents, that's where the issues stem from.
It's hard to go "well you shouldn't just go by kinks" when no one shares my interests like okay outside kink interests you're a nintendo fanboy who probably thinks Mario galaxy is a good movie. I can't schizo with you about cyberpunk scifi or futurism, I'm not even sure I can talk of world history to any depth with you. So yeah I gatekeep hard on my niche kink since what the fuck else could you have in common with me in practice? If you don't even do the kind of vore I like what the fuck are we interacting for?
>lamp vore
>>85084747I don't think I can agree with that fully. The poison goes deeper. If people were wielding symbology through fetishes above their paygrade or beyond their grasp, I'd understand that, but instead it's just degraded to simulacra.So many of the last attempts I've had just involve no thought, no anything, just the applications of tags as if they mean anything when they don't to the sender, they definitely don't to the recipient, so it's just like who is this performative shit for?I know why it is the way it is, but that escapes the scope of this thread.
>>85084760Anon, all what is needed for people to interact with eachother is their presence and some opening.I get that you feel strongly about x or y kink, but if you rate every interaction you have through an adherence level to that, you are actively shutting yourself out.Just talk to people, be open to find out new shit about them that you can perhaps bond over and maybe yield a bit on your preconcieved notions if you must.As I wrote above, reality is flawed and trying to work your personal fantasies through it is an act of compromise.
>>85084867>I know why it is the way it is, but that escapes the scope of this thread.Nigga, you already brought Baudrillard to the thread. I'm not holding back on derailing it if its fortuitous to the discussion.Let us discuss about it.I've been reading up on Merleau-Ponty's concept about the "Meat of the World", specifically when it posits that the field in which interactions take place isn't just a receptor - the world also acts and interferes, being both stage and actor, though it does lack intent.I surmise that when people label kinks they find out in the wild for the first time, they are ripe with numinous intent over it - in fact, it is precisely that which made them scissor that kink out the wild, label it, give it shape, give it limits.Once shared and agreed upon, it becomes collective infrastructure later on, limits are dotted more specifically, thing pushed further or not far enough usually end up on the ballpark of other kinks.When it is infrastructure, nobody is "holding it", its part of the meat of the world. It works, its valid, but its lacking soul. The soul is people's personal interpretations that happen to push the fetish in odd, interesting ways.Authorship, anon. "I did this" sorta deal. Not too many people do that nowadays because of the risks involved - to stand out invokes responsibility.Bottom line is, people who think of kinks just as "building blocks" are doing it wrong. If they don't impart themselves on it, if they don't bend, taint it to their own personal autisms, its just another fucking menial checklist.
>>85080350Autists do have a track record of ending up hyper-sexual. Like me! Kind of self fulfilling your interpretation.
>>85085115I haven't much put that excess of thought into it since I really only see it pragmatically and don't get access to the deeper parts of any kind of set of people to have opportunities to interact with the best of the best (which unfortunately is what they are if you're not scraping from shitholes like this).My only observation is that it's purely demographic. Perhaps those points do serve when interacting with the failed creatives castes on f-list or whatever other places those so-called people congregate, but my point of view isn't so lofty.To act as a meaningful contrast, I would propose that there is actually a distinction and a place for impersonal symbology distinctly in this "hobby" if you can call it that. The reason being that the purpose of it is to orgasm, to reach a finite biological end and all of the prose and philosophy in the world will always come second to that because otherwise it definitionally would no longer be eroticism and instead be literature.For that reason I can't be wholly against symbols and laziness, because at its core there is some appeal to prearranged scenarios, the safety of prostitution. That safety has had its niche upturned however by technological innovations and that leaves whatever the hell is left of people who screw around here and other places. The absence of personal investment is absolutely felt, it's probably the point that I would say is actual pure truth, but that's why I bemoan the performative absence of it.I don't think that's sybology's fault, moreso the actual people professing those fetishes. Which again is a demographic issue.
>>85085115 #It is constructed societal theatre on a smaller scale. I know it is probably a stale example but it is one that feels relevant. I sometimes think about is Why do bluesky's vore fans have cyclic outbursts of people performatively claiming melting people and keeping them stuck in innards is "the same" with virtue signals of "we are all freaks here"? Because they're performing a formulaic idea of a "discourse" that never actually exists. You have a random vent comic and then people ritually responding their canned responses to it. At no point will you see a two way conversation between opposing viewpoints. You will see people deride "endo purists" even as the comic was made by someone who says they're fine with gooey digestion. If you are someone who is fine with unwilling endosoma but not safe digestion, you just will feel like you don't exist to the people see making rants about it, you just don't exist in the dualism they seek to perpetuate. Additionally, you see people invested in making anyone who doesn't accept the norms of the fandom feel isolated and unwanted, the implicit "no one else will accept you" threat that such fandoms rely on to enforce their alt-conformity. I do not know if this is a niche kink space development or one seen across fetish groups. But I wonder if some of this is a byproduct of the shaping of kink tags, of which also affect who engages who and what works they engage with. By extension, what communities they stumble into and what expressions of said kink they see. Could be a pichu getting shoved up asses, wings of fire dragons using humans as dildos even. If you don't engage wof or Pokemon normally, they still cause you to engage with the fans of those IPs because said IPs were used in a niche kink you tag searched for. Which can cause a disconnect problem for people who may be into soap operas but are stuck in a space full of Star Fox fans due to their specific kink having a Star Fox fixated artist drawing it.
>>85084007Your brain changes several times in life. Completely natural. I'd be more concerned about someone who's tastes absolutely never change. You didn't get attracted to something you consider more degenerate as the trade off right?
>>85085305>I haven't much put that excess of thought into it since I really only see it pragmaticallyYou got good insight over it, anon. Its less about being right or reaching truth and more about what you get out of trying to understand it.While I agree that the issue is demographic, that is reductive. The way I see it, the scene dynamics do mimic real life ones in regards to "chasing the meta" and metagaming becoming more prevalent, more widespread and more used as a way to insulate people against risk. Reducing the hobby to the barebones (gooning) is also risk insulation - just the straightforward gratification without any work and without the offchance of getting something out of the expected.The thing about metagaming is thar people stop expressing themselves and start building their character about what other people want. That does remove personal stakes and makes characters feel more like cardboard, no depths, just masks.People being here just to orgasm? Disagree. While there are people who push that way (and usually end up bastardizing the medium further - gooning, postpigging, lewd talk), there is gratification to be had on other forms, not all sexual, not all reliant on other people - authorship, social exchanges, communal belonging, epistemic insights, creativity and worldbuilding... meaning is subjective and self-authored here.>Segregation of the symbolic and the carnal.Can't be done readily. Things are interwined and often the first drives you to the second. RP can't be reduced just to sexual gratification - how a person writes their quirks and how they react and dynamically push back against your actions is what drives you, and most often than not, the person's symbolic repertoire is what allows them to write on a way that appeals to you. Also, the exchange ensures some of those symbols are seeded into you, the kink contagion we see.Splitting the sexual aspect would land people into other medium altogether, though.
How do you explain how a single fetish gets 20 goofy ass subtypes?
>>85085817I'm... Im.... I'm a GOOFY GOOBERYou're a GOOFY GOOBER!!WE'RE ALL GOOFY GOOBERS!!
>>85085817Because they want to over complicate it instead of accepting the trinity into their hearts
>>85085449Pretty much, the dynamic in place is the same it goes on real life.Identity is built upon two poles: Positive and Negative. You get to draw the border on what you accept as yourself and what you reject as yourself, even if reality goes otherwise (the whole jungian thing about your shadow and blahblahblah).By actually defining the limits, people are infusing their personal investments over it, resulting in some sort of tribalism "I can only be whole on my aception if we reject this or another aspect" sort of subjective take, but I believe there's more to it, that somehow people misinterpretate being biased like that to preventing their aceptions or the whole kink to being normatized, to be exposed to more people that will dilute it further and eventually have it lose any sort of numinous significance only to have it integrate the meat of the world - where it belongs to "everyone" and thus is worthless.Vore people may trace subconscious parallela over the whole mechanism above to their kink - they fear other people "voring" what is theirs to, and consequentially changing it for "worse". I assume they do look down on eating leftovers...Anyway, I believe that their discussion is moot. Any kink can be interpreted in several ways. As posited by Roland Barthes in his "Death of the Author", once something is out on the wild, you can't really monopolize what it means. Meaning is subjective and self-authored.
>>85085790The divorce between ERP and RP is such a severe line in the sand that I can't help but summon up indignation for it just because it taps into what is raping so many boards to death on this site.If you ERP with me and I don't get horny and don't cum, then it is RP and that is not something that is worth doing because I explicitly do engage in normal roleplaying as a hobby and when comparing one to the other, I do not ever feel the temptation nor the desire to cum when writing stories with people in that hobby and if I don't feel sensuality when doing it in the altered headspace of fucking around on /trash/ then it is a waste of time because I have better people to write non-sexual roleplaying with.On the exact opposite side of the spectrum, I spend a lot of my time in various hobbies besides roleplaying and it disgusts me how pervasive this rampant sexuality is in completely unsexual topics, as if we've traded for the worst of both worlds where a place like /trash/ has nothing remotely appealing for all its sexuality and every other board looks like a porn board.If you told me ten years ago that /pol/ would conquer this space, I would have shrugged and accepted that. If you told me /e/ would conquer the whole fucking website, I would call you insane and yet half of every board's threads would be dedicated to softcore pornography with the least insightful or sensual anything that could be attached to that.That lack of nuance IS a demographics issue and there is no getting around that, frankly. These things that post that stuff cannot stop because it would require granularization and the basic human dignity to understand that there's a time and place for that. But they're not human. There's an old boomer nothingism: work hard, play hard.And yet that seems like sage wisdom now because people mix sexuality into the most sterile of hobbies and don't even enjoy it. All explicitly because they refuse to keep it separated.Work retarded, play sedated
>>85085817Evolution and specialization is just humanWhat's more interesting to me is the Ur-fetish, something that feels like it should have existed previous but a hyper-specific example captivated people as a firstBlueberry being Ur-inflation fascinates me because it's so specific, and there's a few others that I can't remember at the moment
hey guys this is a really interesting discussion that im sure youre putting a lot of effort into, but we havent talked about vore for a few posts now so i think its time we circle back to that yeah?
>>85086635I'm going to eat you
>>85086573Anon, while I understand exactly where you are coming from, I can't agree.Heck, if you go and ERP with someone, it isn't a guarantee that you will cum over it. There's a lot of variables, a lot of nuance over it that don't warrant a result. It may be pleasant without being basally liberating, it could be a waste of time...you can't say until you play it out, more than that, you're not a passive recipient on it - the result also hinges on you.Regarding your preferences to keep things apart, that is valid but not everyone works like that. Also, nonsexual exchanges may give you insight that can be used in ERP and vice-versa. I don't see it as a zero sum game, anon, there are things to be gained even if they aren't obvious at first, but to reach them you absolutely must bear the risk of not getting jack shit for your time sometimes.>Rampant sexualityI feel that's more cultural than anything, reflecting real life and all. People have became so dependent on their dopamine fix over easily gumptible porn that they keep looking for it on the down low even while doing other shit.Some sort of deal where the content matters less than the vibe it evokes, where you wear it out and then move to another, where paying a bit more depth of attention to it ruins it prematurely so you go for just a cursive, surface glance while jorking harder.
>>85086635I was going to get there. I was debating the AI thought the discussion so it could properly digest, translate and sum up my personal views on the divide within the 2k limit."A weird thought: different people don't disagree about vore because of the act itself, but because they disagree about what the result should mean.Assume three major endings:>Assimilation: The prey becomes part of the predator.>Endosymbiosis: The prey remains alive as an internal companion/ecosystem.>Consumation: The prey becomes nutrients and fuel.Now imagine seven narrative temperaments:>The Vanguard: prefers Consumation. An irreversible act should have irreversible consequences. Closure matters.>The Opportunist prefers Assimilation. The value of the other is incorporated into the self. Efficient, possessive.>The Analyst prefers Endosymbiosis. Two systems coexisting is more interesting than either fusion or destruction.>The Curator also prefers Endosymbiosis, but as a managed ecosystem with roles, rules and stability.>The Caretaker chooses Endosymbiosis because the relationship survives. The bond is the point, not ownership.>The Dreamer prefers Assimilation, but not for power. Two identities colliding to create a third, stranger self.>The Horizon has no real preference. Boundaries gradually lose importance; predator and prey become local distinctions within one continuous field.The interesting part is that three of them arrive at the same outcome for completely different reasons. They agree on the biology, but disagree on the ontology.Maybe that's why vore discourse always feels like people talking past each other: they're arguing over digestion while secretly debating identity."