Perspective editionprevious: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/85993458/Note: There is not, and there will never be, an official /dig/ discord server.Post what you're working on, ask questions, discuss general art-related things.Make your unforgivable fetishes come to life.Welcome: New and seasoned artists looking for advice, critique and support.When giving criticism, please, give actual criticism not just "LOL LOOMIS". Let's not become another /ic/NOT welcome: /ic/ crabs, /trash/ crabs, bad faith critiqueOther Drawthreads:Search "draw" on a board's catalog>>>/trash/drawVideos:Tyler Edlin - https://www.youtube.com/user/TylerE2284Proko -https://www.youtube.com/user/ProkoTVSinix -https://www.youtube.com/user/sinixdesignScott Robertson -https://www.youtube.com/user/scottrobertsondesignMatt Kohr (CtrlPaint) -https://www.ctrlpaint.com/libraryAaron Blaise -https://www.youtube.com/user/AaronBlaiseArtVilpu (Anatomy) - https://mega.nz/folder/9Pw1lYaS#Me7LSwlSg59lNGmkj9tt4w/folder/lPoXEYxSLinesSensei- https://www.youtube.com/@LinesSenseiPoses/Gestures:QuickPoses -https://www.quickposes.com/enPoseSpace -https://www.posespace.com/posetool/default.aspxhttps://x6ud.github.io/#/ Animal Head Reference Finderhttps://anatomy360.info/anatomy-scan-reference-dump/Books (navigable folders):https://www.mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8https://6chan.moe/loomis/res/156.htmlhttps://6chan.moe/loomis/res/1991.html (filled with scans, replace 6 with 8)https://anonfiles com/OeEc64d4z1https://www.mediafire.com/file/1hta2i7eqqj31ea/art_and_fear.pdf/filehttps://mega.nz/folder/yxtCBLYZ#FbtGBQQunWVCrjMMIzJSywFAQQ: I'm a total beginner. Where should I start?A: Do the exercises in either "Keys to Drawing" by Bert Dodson or "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" by Betty Edwards. Additionally, you can try the first few lessons of https://drawabox.com/ for building up muscle memory.
i didnt even know it was possible to delete ops
thread maker, you are appreciated
>>86166885Yeah, you can delete your own posts after all. There's a time window for it but you can indeed do it.>>86166890T-Thanks.
>>86166885Though it's off balance, it looks like one of those "leaning forward judging you" poses you would find in a cartoon.
i really need to do moree gestures
any /dig/ around?
fuck i've been slacking so hard
hello anons
>>86168968Quickposes will always be there for you.
>>86169452Cute doe.
Thanks to whoever answered my question in the last thread about how to draw this gesture.
>>86172179That was me. Hi. Sorry if the pelvis part isn't super accurate.
How some anons can nearly post daily? What are you taking?
>>86173734I like drawing and want to get better
>>86173734its easier if youre not drawing self indulgent fetish porn, other people's ocs or using revenge porn/ai sloppa pics as inspiration so you can post without fear
What is a good balance between just-drawing and practicing fundamentals?
>>86174182Whatever you can tolerate
>>86166731We live again
>Realize that multiple refs have clothes >Can't draw them>Or even the fucking bodyGenuine question, is it worthy to at least try to sometime do gesture/trying to understand how clothes work even if it isn't the principal subject of study or its just a bad idea?
>>86175769Drapery is a subject matter in and of itself for a reason. Even if you wanna draw most of your characters nude, having some fabric in the scene or even some very revealing clothes on your characters can do wonders for making things more interesting both for the viewer and the artist, so yes, learning at least the bare-bones basics of depicting cloth is well worth the effort.
>>86169452damn dude you've got those pencil settings fucking locked inalso cute deer
i practiced today BUT I WON'T SHOW YOU
>>86178851Then why did you tell me?
>>86179139wanted to vaguepost as a treat. i'll show it when i can make something that looks ok
>>86178851wtf i dont remember making this post
I'm making something today and I will show you later
>>86179861you good slime?
Gay.>>86169452Not gay. Very good deer. I very much enjoy the limb exaggeration including the ears.
>>86182423i appreciate these even if they're just posted to bump the thread, i save every single one
>>86175769If you can't draw the body you probably shouldn't touch drapery. You're free to do whatever, but you're putting the cart before the horse.
>>86183538I'm just glad that they have value to someone.
>>86178851ok
>>86170270hello
>>86188387Why isn't he green?
>>86188445because he's yellow
nothing I Draw will ever be good enough.
>>86189333why do y think that
>>86189361because my art is not good as people say it is and im not able to draw what i actually want to draw, ive just gotten really goo at drawing the same stuff over and over
>>86189404have you tried drawing different subject matter?
After taking a week and some off of drawing to kind of recenter myself I'm back with some variety drawls
>>86190221you're getting better
>>86190221What is this supposed to be?Nice hands btw.
who up drawin they draws
>>86192917just note taking
im wondering which brushes to use to get a result similar to the one in the rightthat and i was wondering how do you guys know which color to use for flats? i often see that people use a darker color that the one is used in the finished product, thanks in advance.
>>86192917Boxes (kill me) and sometime gesture or trying to copy drawing as a little treat.
>>86194091pelvis looks good. What are you trying to study?
>>86194214Nothing especially, I just wanted to do something other than boxes
>>86194606Don't just draw boxes and don't draw aimlessly. You should pair your studies with drawing stuff you want to
>>86195179Maybe later, I really need to re-learn some basics first
>>86191817Looks a bit like the head of an old skool fountain pen, but could also be some sort of fantasy wrist blade.
>>86191817Nothing in particular, I was just looking at bits and pieces from robots and stuff and liked how General Grievous' arms looked.
>>86193720Looks like something you could do with just your standard hard round brush, maybe with some blurring and blending at strategic spots, but I'm no expert in rendering so I could be wrong.As for the value of the flat colors, depends on if you want to render the piece and whether you want to work from shadow to light or vice versa. A darker base color for the flats suggests the former approach, where you add a couple of layers of lighter color and one darker to create a four-shade value range.
Today it's mummy. I had no clue how to make these interesting in the slightest. Ohh well who cares
Last years were by far better. Did I regress? No It can't be, I'm never in the wrong
I wish i had more confidence in myself and my art endeavors
>>86197372Just bee yourself
>>86197486if i wasn't shit, that wouldn't be a probl;em
>>86197528You just need to give less of a fuck. Confidence is a deciding factor in success
>>86172269Steven Michael Hampton is actually quite good. I just realized I watched one of his tutorials long ago.
>>86199019Glad i could be of some use. Josh black is also a really good one. I've been binging alot of his lectures and videos in my downtime and he's pretty good at showing how he transfers gesture to structure
more bad art from mehttps://files.catbox.moe/r8ydkd.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/012am6.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/j3szka.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/fp3fme.png
>>86201106>>86202748That's fucking good anon
>>86196583I want a tootsie pop
>>86166731Partially inspired by Hoopa and Yakumo Yukari, I tried at sketching a spacegoat. The anatomy is fucked because I couldn't focus with all the noise at the time.Any suggestions on how to improve him would be appreciated, thank you
Sometimes I subconsciously feel that using references is plagiarism
>>86208748It's not. You're going to give someone a complex.Plagiarism is plagiarism. Those are two whole different words, man.
>>86203199thank you anon. trying to keep some consistent practices
>>86210024Keep it up. Nta, but this is solid studies
late night chilling and drawing
some more random variety drawin
>>86211762What resource did you use to learn to draw boobs?
Blind leading the blind
>>86178851I picked up a pencil to draw for the first time since I was in elementary school and drew for 20 hours this week but everything looks so fucking bad I refuse to show it
>>86214624We may be able to help with directions
>>86214624>picked up a pencil to draw for the first time since I was in elementary school>but everything looks so fucking bad I refuse to show itsame but like two months agoif it helps remember we're all just anon
>>86214624Can't be worse than me. Seven months of drawing and eating glue for nothing.
>>86214624you cant really expect help if you wont show us the work you want us to help with, but hey, i understand. As the anon above said, we're all anonymous, and most of the people here wont care about your skill level at all.
>>86213214looking at a fuckton of porn and copying the kinds of tits I liked the most
>>86214624You wouldn't get much worthwhile feedback even if you did since it would be 'learn/practice everything' but next month you better post something
>>86184540>If you can't draw the body you probably shouldn't touch draperyWell some refs in sketchdaily have clothes or draperies. So like I just skip them or at least give a try? I generally do 10 poses with 1 minutes and try to do a 5 minutes pose
>>86217291I'll always say to give it a try, but if you find them distracting alot of time out of you or if you're a super beginner, there are other more important things to work on that would help you improve quicker, but then again, if you're a super beginner, just drawing almost anything will help you improve
>>86218208Anon, I won't sugar coat it, I am on my seventh month of drawing and I still can't draw a body.
>>86214624That's fine, the first page of my sketchbook looks like this. I drew a Sonic The Hedgehog so bad that I found it embarrassing. You'll get better with direction, feedback and time. Keeping it to yourself will do more harm than good.
>>86218375All good. I'm on my fifth year and I barely can either.
>>86218375In months 6-12, just try to establish a consistent relationship with the hobby. Like actually make sure you spend enough time doing it every week. That and line control and being able to draw 3d objects, organic shaped ones as well. It sounds like alot, but i promise it isn't. But really, you're doing just fine!
>>86218375Have you tried learning the basics of construction?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtEtZ98_JAA&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D
>>8621915915 to 30 minutes in general, I can push to 1-2 hours max at night when not working.>>86220105For now I try to follow Hampton yt vids and his book, I did glance quickly on how he do construction but clearly I am not skilled enough
>>86225021That's enough time to see ateong skill gains if you remain consistent. Keep up the busy work.
>>86226518*Strong
FRIDAYYYYYYYYYYYY NIGHT
hello?
>can't drawOR>can draw but can't into ideas
>>86228949hope everybody else is doing good with their art because i spent like an hour in blender trying to get the basic forms of a sculpt right and haven't done much else since then>>86230853former for me. i have so many fucking ideas that i need to eventually make but i'm not there yet
>>86230853
>>86230897Yeah.Yeah...
making a comicor trying to anyway
Spent longer than I would have liked on these but I like how they turned out so I guess thats fine
Clothes are hard. Pepper was supposed to be in Mina's coat, but it's just a plain old coat without color. Maybe I'll go back and add accessories and stuff later, but I'm just not feeling "it" still.Was thinking of having her dress up as Freya, too.>>86234236Cute. We seem to have similar drawing/posting schedules.
>>86234236spooky
morning
>>86166885what an odd sheet. firstly there’s plenty of poses where neck is nowhere near over support region. what you actually are concerned about is the sum of all forces, which means heavy asses and gold bars will have more sway than ears or noses. wind could be a factor too, that’s a force. also odd that it mentions “held pose” but then includes dancingthis feels like something one would pump out for daily social media post
>>86206377>tried at*tried my hand atNot sure why I can never type properly on 4chan
>>86237921gm
Quick nonsense bump before work.
>>86245771Are gachas literally the best inspiration for getting better at art?I think most of my art this year has been gacha-related.
>>86245924Maybe I should start drawing gacha girls...
I won't draw gacha
I will draw gacha.
>>86245924i was going to say i never drew gacha but i kinda do.huh
Hey dig
I should draw before it's too late.
>>86254209too late for what
>>86254241Before the day ends.
Didnt do shit all tonight until I had a sudden flash of inspiration so I didnt do nearly as much as I would have wanted for the night.
>>86255935looks really cool. Keep going.
my brain is hurting me again
Once again late night drawing.
>>86258697did i type this?
>>86245771Can someone explain the ring light reflection on her ass.Is it a natural light distortion that can on spherical surfaces? Or is it implied someone rolled out a studio ring light in broad daylight? Or is it just added on because it looks good even though it makes no sense?
>>86260249Just added cause looks nice. Bro it's a huge ass that's pretty much all people care about.
>>86260249>Or is it implied someone rolled out a studio ring light in broad daylight? Or is it just added on because it looks good even though it makes no sense?both, especially the latter
>>86260249>it looks goodLooks like a bruise and a scar to me
>>86260249As others have said, it's mostly artistic merit.Just as with writing, art is all about learning the rules so that you can confidently break them in such a way that it appears natural.
>>86260249People don't reference real life anymore when drawing and all e-whores use ring lights
Hopefully I learn something from this book.
Reminder if you're not drawing you're not an artist
Im a fraud ...
I've been doing Lesson 2 of Drawabox after completely the boxes, but these texture lessons are filtering me so hard and all the examples online look superb... I know I shouldn't think that way but urgj
im not an artist
>trying to keep a consistent habit on sculpting something every day even if it's shit>take a break for a couple days>now starting to constantly think about when i'll get back to it and considering if i should start cancelling things to sculpt all daylads i might be back
bumping the thread with just the smallest bit of an update to my this, did the other arm :3
it's been a while, really struggling with this
>>86273374Love to see it.
How do you guys continue to draw despite ai?
>>86281425By not caring
>>86281425i have a strong suspicion that alot of you don't actually like the act of drawing all that much and just like the idea that comes with it.
>>86281425I followed AI early on and saw how fast the "wild west" era died and went entirely private.It's only a matter of time before the entirety of it is subscription based.I'll say LLMs have plateaued pretty hard with and never quite made it to perfect mimicry and I'd assume image gen has hit the same wall.Even in the event AI becomes completely indiscernible from real art companies will decide what you're allowed to generate and miserable people will pressure them into ridiculous values.>>86282571trvke
Color
>>86282571I enjoy trying to understand the 'How to', I hate being untalented and incapable of learning.Also fuck IA, butlerian Jihad now.
>>86284455>I enjoy trying to understand how to>Incapable of learning I have really hard suspicions just off this alone. I doubt you're mentally incapable of learning. You're smart enough to boot up a device, go to a specific site and contextually understand the comment i made, meaning you're not literally braindead or retarded, so what gives?
>>86284731Nta, but learning disabilities do exist. Many people might not even know they have them. One of my best friends is a very capable person, but he has trouble absorbing information in certain ways (beyond what is normal for a person), and it's presented him with a lot of challenges throughout life.Drawing and painting are really hard tasks. They demand a lot of time, patience, and raw skill. Not everyone takes to it like a fish in water. Like I can make pretty decent pics, but it's a struggle almost each and every time, no matter how many hours I put into the craft, and that's a source of constant frustration to me, because it feels like it SHOULD be easier.
>>86281425Why do you bother thinking (assuming a lot here) despite AI
Today is one of those days when even the basics feel out of reach. Let's try again tomorrow.
>>86288560How about later tn?
>>86288997Unlikely. I'm live in Yurop, so I'm going to take a shower, dine and go to bed, as I have to wake up at 5 am tomorrow.
I never realized how separated the "Motor Skills" portion of art was from the "Knowledge Acquisition" portion. In fact I never really thought about it at all and assumed that they were ultimately the same thing.To explain what I mean by that, I'll refer to cooking. I rarely see a person who really good knife skills make bad food, but I have seen someone with terrible knife skills make good food. Maybe that's where a small concept of "sovl" comes from?
>>86289097I feel your pain, anon.>>86284731I genuinely struggle to understand some concepts (forshortening for example) and quickly unlearn whatever I do if I believe my attempt at gesture drawing, like It's been two week now that I do nearly only that with boxes in different perspectives.
>>86290044unless im waaaaaaaaay off the mark, i think you may be misinterpreting someone with line making skills. Line/mark making is a fundamental of art. It might be the quintessential fundamental of art cause how can you draw anything without making lines/marks/etc. But you're on the right path. Someone can make good art while having lackluster fundamentals or "skillz". But it depends what you mean by "good". Good as in skill/technical ability? or good as in "The story/characters/atmosphere/setting are good". The latter is something you can't really directly teach. Those are sovl, young grasshopper. And you have one, as we all do.
Just when I'm about to succumb and face the music, a big artist follows me.Now I HAVE to continue...
>>86260249
>>86294530name them and drop your art nigger
how do you draw a right angle in perspective?
>>86295288Start by not drawing it wrong.
>>86295288rotate it
>>86290044>>86293030>Line/mark making is a fundamental of art.Maybe, but it's also the most intuitive to grasp and easiest to master. Knowing WHERE to put the lines for maximum effective impact is another matter entirely and the rest of the fundamentals of art largely deal in helping the artist solve that infinitely complex conundrum. This is why the old adage goes that art is much more about seeing than drawing.As for SOVL, it's one of those concepts that's nearly impossible to define, but you know it when you see it. Generally, it can be boiled down to a feeling that whoever made whatever you're looking at poured a bit of their inner self into it that's evident in all the little details that don't mean much individually, but when taken as a whole, begin to reveal just how much thought and care went into the process. Of course, to be able to spot the differences between a similar soulless creation, they either need to be so stark as to be visible to the layman (which they often are in made-by-committee products, since there's often no singular creative vision behind such items and the potential rough edges have all been sanded down entirely) or the viewer needs to be well-versed enough in the craft used to create it that they can spot a hasty, slapdash job that's technically well-executed enough to pass muster but is clearly done less in the name of passion and more in the name of a paycheck. Or the old reliable for the less well-versed of comparing works by the same author and seeing how they gradually lost the spark of their earlier stuff but can't stop half-assedly making new things because it's simply too lucrative to continue.
>>86295186Aruurara.I drew >>86234756 and pretty much every other picture with that color purple background.>>86295288Also to answer you seriously: use a circle. Right angles are 90 degrees, which can be easier to visualise in perspective with a circle.
>>86282571biggest truth nuke this thread has had in awhile. It really is a bit concerning that the draw thread is like 35% drawing and the rest is people venting about how much they either hate drawing, want to quit, or how they're not improving or cannot.
>>86295783>rest is people venting about how much they either hate drawing, want to quit, or how they're not improving or cannotGrowing up is realizing that this covers around 99% of artists.
>>8629580499% of artists don't draw?
>>86295835Is that what I quoted, dingbat?
>>86295854? you responded to my message about how most people here either dont draw or have problems with drawing, and you're saying 99% of artists have this problem? Does that not sound a little bit contradictory? Or did you want to claim that most people complain an vent about how much they hate the thing, but still draw despite that? Cause that's very much not what i was talking about lol
>>86295886Man, I swear to god some of you have undiagnosed reading comprehension problems.I am saying that most artists, at least in my experience, face very real difficulties with art, and either feel disdain towards it, frustration with it, and/or want to quit or consider quitting on a regular basis. And feeling like you can't improve is also incredibly common among artists whom I've spoken to (and I've spoken to artists both big and small, from 100 followers to 100k).That is to say, artists deal with a lot of similar issues, and not one of them (in a vacuum) means they don't like to or don't want to draw. It's a very demanding skill to learn. It's very hard. It takes a lot of time. People only have so much patience, and they'll need to vent.
>>86295978i understand that most artists have self-doubt. I don't know why you're critiquing my reading abilities when my vent was pretty obvious and was about how the thread is mostly a vent thread and thats it. There's very little advice every given, if anything it's typically always wishy washy or vague. The top poster is always consistently the dude posting guides or tutorials. It's literally just a whine thread about people who hate drawing.
>>86295978>I am saying that most artists, at least in my experience, face very real difficulties with art, and either feel disdain towards it, frustration with it, and/or want to quit or consider quitting on a regular basis.Reminded me of this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gYJYzzjGQM
>>86296081It's 4chan bro, everyone here is miserable.
>>86295768now i just need to figure out how to draw a circle in perspective
>>86296103Yeah, I think about this video a lot.
>>86296116look, if you wanna vent that's fine, but atleast post your work or something so we can offer advice. guidance or something instead of just constantly posting into the thread (for months) hoping you get a (you) that will magically fix all your art problems. Like it's a bit asinine that i remember someone in this thread saying that calling someone a /beg/ is considered like mean or something or discouraging. Like bro, if that's enough to get you down, how the fuck do you expect to draw anything challenging?
>>86296192nta but i'm actually part of the problem here because i'm a /beg/fag and never post my work since i know the problem is simply not having practiced the fundamentals enoughi think people need to chill the fuck out and focus more on simply doing a little every day when they draw, i doubt i'm the best person to give advice for it but the less pressure you put on yourself the better you'll do, unless you're getting paid wtf is the point to hate the process of drawing or of doing any art in generaljust do what you can and try to learn a little every day, anybody in this thread can do it
>>86296814yea pretty much this. If you want to vent FEEL SUPER FREE TO DO SO. i understand the mental qualms that come with being an artist. But please for god sake, post your attempts or work. Let's actually get the ball rolling and improve the things people complain and get frustrated by. Literally nobody cares if you're bad skillwise (unless they're weird idk)
>>86296847>>86296814to add onto this, please stop putting art on this scary pedestal, like it's impossible to learn and impossible to improve at. There are dumbfucks right now who can draw. Why? cause they've kinda just fucked around and drew shit as kids/teens and they carried that habit into adulthood. As the anon above said, start small, focus on understanding one thing a session, whether it's something simple as "this is the shape of ribcage", and then carry it onto the next session.
weed bump
For the thigh/leg on the left am I supposed to have a full line for this body type or do I erase part of it. I'm unsure on if the line should be the whole leg for the butt. This is tough.
bumpdraw a little bit when you wake up tomorrow. if you're seeing this in the middle night go to sleep fucker
The talk above is pretty motivational. >>86301155>go to sleep fuckerOkay, damn.
Exams todayDrawing to cool down.
>>86304195Gl with them
Bump
>>86307374wishing you good draws, guide poster.
>>86307493Thanks man.
>>8630498494 baby lets go it's all about the mets the mets the mets
>>86294530holy fuuuuuuck lol. time to lock in>>86296150it’s an ellipse>>86299357okay this was a giant waste of everybody’s time, i think. pokemones are super fat and stubby huhthe answer to your question is yes. you can even see it on in ref, the hip is not separated by ink. what i wanted to add was that torso as it currently is looks kinda inflated. you should decide whether raichu is hunched over or arched back. also for the head not to be absolutely eclipsed by massive butt she may need be turned to the side
Posting was fine until the range ban hit. Fuck.>>86203379Just gotta say I quite enjoy your mawplay stuf. You do really wellwith them I feel!>>86234756Hell yeah, I was hoping you would dress her up as Mina. I like how you have thecoat draped around her! Its a shame you aren't feeling it but you could alwaysplace her whip around her body with the flail head dangling between her breastsor something like that. If you wanted to accessorize her a bit more that is.>>86299357Sorry in advance for the unsolicited redlining but you're on the right track withwanting to omit the line on the left leg. I'd suggest taking the line from raichu'sback all the way down to her right leg to make it a more of a seamless transitionand to keep her round body shape intact. The defined cheeks on both haunchesmakes them look slotted in like lego pieces, at least to me. Hopefully this helps and it's good to see you doing another crack pairing as I liked your previous one with Dewott and Eelektross. Whats the plan with the Beheeym and Elgyem?>>86312658Hot damn!
>>86312658>>86313085Thanks you guys! I usually end up with some difficulty with the rounder "potato sack" Pokemon specially when the limbs have to overlap. I'll give this another once over. Thanks again.
Can someone review this gesture for me and explain how to even attempt poses like this?
>>86314227>review this gestureThat's a photo. Gesture is just the initial few lines you make and will depend on your own accrued experience.
>>86295804>>86295978If an artist says that they hate drawing, then they're not a real artist. They're a fucking poser and need to just turn into an AI nigger already
>>86314227here. Try to visualize the pose initially with the line of action and then those major masses
>>86315610Let me know when you speak to some actual artists, champeroonie. You're just demonstrably incorrect.
>>86315610I hate being bad at drawing. I just want to be good at drawing with no effort.
This was sitting on my desk for a few days unfinished. I'm really lazy. The clothes don't even make sense
notes part 2. Kinda happy with my overall progress over the relatively short time ive been drawing. Think im fairly compent now.
>>86316321Typical passive-aggressive AI nigger, making assumptions and not having reading comprehension skills. Most artists I know love their craft, so thank you for proving my point that only posers hate creating.>>86316385That's not the same as hating the act of drawing itself
>>86318541bro, chill.
>>86318541Oof, baby bro throwing a tantrum. I don't support AI, and you're still wrong. Stay mad about it, kiddo.
>>86320580Genuine question: How was he wrong? He clearly fucked up with how he said it, but I think he meant that most artists are too busy enjoying their craft to complain about the process. It's usually bitter d/ic/ks and immature Twitter toddlers who cry about drawing or painting or whatever they do
>>86320755there's balance to it. I genuinely love drawing and can pull off multi-hour sessions no problem because it's like a dopamine loop for me to see myself learn and be able to improve. However, there are still times where i "hate" drawing. Where i doubt myself, my abilities, my smarts and my character. It's your ego, just a very negative ego, and managing your ego, whether it's inflated or deflated, is core to improving at literally anything. You have to believe in yourself a little or else you'll never truly try.
>>86320755>It's usually bitter d/ic/ks and immature Twitter toddlers who cry about drawingIt's not.Like I said, I've spoken to a lot of artists both big and small who struggle, and you can easily extrapolate that into orders of magnitude. I'm not saying all artists hate art unequivocally; that's stupid. But the struggle with art often leads to resentment, and it sometimes takes a lot of mental fortitude to keep going when you can't seem to make any leads. I was trying to evoke some empathy, but the nuance goes over some people's heads.And frankly, from what I've noticed through various interactions, while I believe art is a skill first and foremost, creative skills lend themselves to particular people more than others. I lack the same impassioned creativity I've seen in a lot of other artists (likely those you refer to who absolutely love their craft with fervor), and while I enjoy the act of drawing, I'm not going to pretend that sometimes it doesn't make me want to jump off a bridge. That's just how it is.TL;DR: if someone wants to yell and moan sometimes, it's fine. Ignore it if you don't like it. But I encourage a little bit of solidarity because chances are, one day, you'll want to yell too.>>86320897Well said.
The conclusion I've come to is that you gotta love the craft a whole lot to put up with all the pain and bullshit it throws your way on a regular basis. There's a reason many artists will prefer to starve in order to work on their art rather than aim for a more sensible career and it isn't just the tendency towards mental instability, which might be more of an effect than a cause, now that I think on it.
any other late night draws
>>86320897>>86321311Thanks, you two! I think I understand a little better>>86321644Trying to draw a feral pig. I think I'm more used to draw long-legged ferals and bipeds in general, so learning a pig's proper proportions is rather fun tbhonest
>>86321644not drawing but i'm gonna try and sculpt up a blaziken after making a monstrosity on my first attempt today
>>86321644usual drawing while stoned
>>86321644Just doing whatever at this point of the night. I should sleep.
