I lost my ambition to see a new city or culture. How to gain that excitement back? I'm rotting in my apartment in the last 2 years instead of traveling even tho i have money.
>>2808558Get yourself a gf/wife and plap her until you have kids. Then take your kids everywhere and show them all the cities and cultures they've never seen before. And will give you motivation to learn because you'd want to teach your kids.Stop aimlessly wandering, you stupid bitch.
>>2808579Only smart kids care about traveling and are fascinated by new places. Low IQ kids have very little environmental awareness and will ruin the trip by whining about petty discomforts the whole time.
>>2808558How many km do you walk in a day? Chances are you've been a sedentary potato sack lately, and that's why you aren't feeling motivated to go anywhere.
>>2808584Well, you're high iq and would marry a high iq woman and have high iq kids. Therefore your kids would love traveling. So, go do it.Unless you're telling me you're just a bitch who cops out from his biological purpose?
>>2808589kek based
>>2808584> Low IQ kids have very little environmental awareness and will ruin the trip by whining about petty discomforts the whole time.No that’s kids who have been raised by being given an IPad every time they have a second of discomfort.
>>2808558Depression I think. I would say don't actually think about travelling, maybe a short trip as a reset if you have extra cash. I fell into the escapism trap before, you feel good but then come back to hell and it the contrast just makes things worse.
>>2808663You’re just describing low IQ parents teaching low IQ children.
>>2808579>>2808589Is this another psyop?>have kids, kidcel>muh biological purpose
>>2808685OP is depressed wondering why traveling mindlessly is not helping him cure his depression. The reality is travel is a meme. No one traveled, they were born and married and died in their hometown. Give your life a purpose. Otherwise you're just going to be another hollow jackass plastic bag in the wind.
>>2808579Kids don't appreciate that shit. It's too disorienting
>>2808709Who gives a fuck? Take them everywhere. Wether it's wandering around in your local forest or fucking off in Egypt, they are being mentally stimulated. Have them try all sorts of new foods. Let them decide where to go. Let them become the adventure travelers you're too jaded to be now. Oh sorry, maybe you should just hand your kid an iPad cause you're too lazy to raise your own kids.
>>2808688That has more to do with his depressive personality than traveling itself.I've been a depressed faggot just aimlessly wandering around, getting nothing out of it, and questioning why I'm even traveling.I've also seen and experienced new things when traveling which actually strengthened my personality and gave me drive to keep going, and with joy, and work towards things I want.Seeing and learning new things can give your life a purpose.>muh kidsAnother activity to give your life purpose. Hardly more meaningful than anything else at this point. Modern society has pretty much killed or deprecated almost anything that's "natural" so your "biological imperative" is nearly just a moot point.
>>2808688>OP is depressed wondering why traveling mindlessly is not helping him cure his depressionYeah his mind isn't in it and he's probably just avoiding something rather than following after something or searching around new areas for things to grab and expand his mind.
>>2808579traveling with kids is one of the worst ways to travelthey don't enjoy it, you don't enjoy it, and you have to spend every second of your waking time taking care of themtravel BEFORE you have children
>>2808558I like to meet people when traveling. It gives it a different flavour and makes it more fun. This can mean just chatting to random old people, joining groups of people partying, hooking up, or whatever you make it.
>>2808579That's the neat part, you don't.Much less with a baby who is less than 5 years old.
>>2808685I mean, you SHOULD have kids. Maybe not right away, but it should be something to consider. The world needs more non-brown people. If you are brown, then do the opposite of my suggestion.
>>2808558OP, this actually happened to me not too long ago, so I'll just give you advice another anon gave me that actually worked.Go on your preferred website for booking/finding plane tickets, and find the cheapest intercontinental flight to an unfamiliar country. Don't actually book the cheapest ticket you find, but work your way from there. If the layover is ridiculously long, then go for a slightly more expensive flight with a shorter layover.I actually have a trip lined up using this method, and I'm excited for it.
>>2808926What do you mean unfamiliar country? Any random country I don't feel excited to visit? I have similar thing as OP, I have 30 birthday in September and wanted to escape but I struggle to get excited about Japan when I think about 17 hours airport/plane hell that is expensive anyway and thinking I will have spend time to acclimate and then spend time feeling blackpilled about seeing young people in love or connecting without problems etc, or thinking that everything I can find there I could find in my country anyway - if I really even want it.Also struggle to get excited knowing I should probably first do some things here before escape like close that project at work, finally remove hurting wisdom tooth, apply to local volunteering and do something good for poor people etc
>>2808929>What do you mean unfamiliar country?Any country that you've never visited.>Also struggle to get excited knowing I should probably first do some things here before escapeOh, let me help you with that.>close that project at workDon't bother, unless there's a looming deadline. Work to live, don't live to work.>finally remove hurting wisdom toothJust get it done & over with if you can afford it or if you're adequately insured. If neither of these apply to you, then adjust your travel search to a country where wisdom tooth removal has a good balance between affordable and good quality (Thailand is usually recommended for this).>apply to local volunteering and do something good for poor people etcDon't help poor people unless it's to find them a job. Any volunteer work that involves giving them things ends up not working out in the long term.
>>2808929>spend time to acclimate and then spend time feeling blackpilled about seeing young people in love or connecting without problems etc, or thinking that everything I can find there I could find in my country anyway - if I really even want itDude literally every single thing you touch here has been hitting me.
>>2808929If your internal narrative is merely repeating some blackpill propaganda slop you read on /pol/ or some depressive thought loop that your brain harvested from some demotivational /trv/ thread, tell it to shut the fuck up. Once you stop obsessing over your inner workings and turn your attention outward, you have a good chance of becoming the main character you've always wanted to be. You'll also realize just how much of human existence involves struggle, and hopefully that will help you put your struggles in perspective. Everyone else is toughing it out and making the best of it, so you might as well do the same.
>>2808792I've summit Mount Everest with my baby strapped to my chest. I'm sorry your children are weak.
>>2808974 This isn’t some theoretical blackpill from 4chan, it’s the reality I saw with my own eyes. I saw pretty girls with eyelashes happy to talk to chads or even normie manlets, while her face twists in disgust the moment I come near and open my mouth, then she quickly finds the laziest excuse to leave. I saw fat, ugly women insulting me for being boring cause i wanted to talk philosophy with her, which she listed as her interest. I saw groups of normie manlets orbiting around a mid-looking girl, all cutting each other off trying to impress her, while she gets ecstatic just from the attention and rates each guy by his fitness. "Survival of the fittest" means the loudest, most extroverted guy who can spit onions quips and quickest in art of interrupting other men mid-sentence. I saw all of it for what it is: constant, exhausting competition. We are not even people for these women, we are resources, unless chad. This blackpilled me.>>2808933>Don't bother, unless there's a looming deadline. Work to live, don't live to work.I know about that i only work on what i have slight interest in, and i believe if i will fail with this project i will fail generally. Not in current job but in tech general, cause i wont get needed AI skills that are currently in demand. Tech is so competitive like that and its only way to feel a bit of power in my pathetic life - get some cozy tech position where i can manage people on niche AI skills bravado alone and build things that are slightly interesting to me.>wisdom toothOnly thing i am fearing is the period of reconvalescense during which i can get dry socket. I can wait for a month to get available slot in my dentist, and finally after removing teeth i have a 1-2 weeks with a risk of getting dry socket. I suspect flying plane for hours could aggravate that risk. I would not dream about bigger nightmare than getting dry socket, supposedly worst pain you can get in the middle of 15 hours flight...
>>2808579you'd see less white people at disney world than you would at petra
I have become so bitter and racist I have no desire to go to anywhere anymore. All I do is think about how nice these places were before nogs and jeets flooded in. There's no way to enjoy them.
>>2809273>dry socketI smoked weed after extraction in Thailand and lost the clot. Had to keep the socket clean with a paperclip after every meal until the gum closed over it a couple weeks later. Only once did the gum flap get inflamed, and I popped the pus blister. >women are social stimulantsEveryone wants to be the genetically gifted Chad alpha and not one of the lower-ranking orbiters, but that's not statistically possible. Men need to start seeing the world in impersonal logical terms rather than emotionally reacting to everything like a woman. Women hate men who act like women unless they are openly gay.
>>2809273>cause i wanted to talk philosophy with herhttps://youtu.be/TyGEz_X5viY>>2812205>Men need to start seeing the world in impersonal logical termsAsperger's approach. Speak emotionally to women, not vocalized expressive emotions but implying, subtle, emotional action/reactions.Speak in body language, not histrionic emotions like a teenage girl.
>>2808558Go backpacking in the wilderness. Its a pretty good feeling and will make you feel better. traveling alone can be fun but the couples and romantics make me feel like shit sometimes. If that doesn’t get me, returning home to my 1 bedroom apartment and my wage slave job fucks me up. I wish I could be free. Not the junky meth addict free but really mentally free
>>2808685Nah I think it's legit how it's all supposed to work.Mid/late 30's now, no kids, no gf. I could do occasional cool shit, but zero interest because no one to share it with. Instead my time is either 100% leisure or trying to be productive somehow.
>>2812256>speak emotionally to women, speak in body languageCould you please provide examples ?
>>2815176Commicate with animals, using no vocalization. You can communicate far more than you think using nothing but posture and movement.Woman largely communicatr closer to this, theur words are more of a reason to project intent or signals, not the word's definitions themselves...this is where the phrase "women are always lying" comes from.
>>2808558just go. if you turn up and don't have a good time in the first 48 hours, return home. it will be a valuable lesson. better to know for sure than to cowardly think.
Plan a trip where you’re not sure it will work. eg a cycling trip from Alaska to Panama, or a week in Iran or Russia. What is the craziest trip you can think of and then see if you can get away with it.
>>2808558Book a tour that guides you to interesting activities with other people, but spend the journey getting there and back on your own. Travel, check into accomodation, walk around and try something local, get good rest, wake up and do awesome cultural activities, socialize, go home rest, explore. If you have more time go and take a language course or something.
>>2808558>How to gain that excitement back?Caffeine + dopamine detox.
>>2808588This^^^you can donsome women shit and overthink but that's the answer same as depression is reduced by eating and weights
>>2815691I managed by doubling my caffeine intake + starting ritalinyes I will likely die soon
1. give yourself a reason to travel. learn about history, language, culture, food, whatever until you find something that speaks to you. as some anons mentioned, maybe that also means sharing that experience with others. i've never been a "travel just to consooooooom" kind of person, and find that learning a bunch beforehand gives me something to achieve while i'm there or gives me the context for being able to understand and appreciate parts of those countries.2. if you do all that and literally nothing speaks to you or brings you joy then you likely have depression and should see a medical professional. i don't think that travel _in and of itself_ is necessary for a good life, but the inability to find anything worth exploring a big complex world speaks to some deeper problem.
>>2808584Oof, sucks to suck
Not OP but I didn't deem it worthy to open a thread for this: How do I motivate myself to travel alone? I have some weeks off here and there but my girlfriend won't. Still, cause I haven't travelled much in my life and now I have the money, I want to do so, but I am kinda afraid that I will feel lonely, even if it'll just be a short trip. I am afraid that I'll end up being too self-conscious wherever I go to or that I'll feel stupid walking aimlessly around by myself. And no, I don't have any friends to travel with me.So in the end I kinda stay "unmotivated" to travel even though I actually desire to do so.
>>2819192You will feel lonely. The flight will seem endless. The food will be mediocre and make your gut grumble afterward. The hotel bed will be too hard. The neighbors will check in at 2 AM talking loudly. The town will be dull and unwelcoming. The ride will show up late and make you stress out over missing the train. The only way I've found contentment in prolonged solo travel is by accepting all of the inevitable discomforts and disappointments of the travel experience as part of the price of visiting faraway places.
