why is travel to europe so expensive? how the fuck do people afford this (plus hotels, food, etc)?
>>2809593I just clicked on a random date in September and there are options for like $320 one way (with self-transfers), or you can fly with just one transfer for $450. And I wasn't even trying to research alternative routes, just put Providence to Lisbon.You're looking at December 20, firstly it's too far away in the future, it's usually more expensive to buy tickets this far in advance. And also December 20 is right before Christmas, so it's likely more expensive. But even so I see tickets for $500-600 one way, quite reasonable.
>>2809593Bro why tf are you flying out of PVD. Just come up here to Boston or go down to NYC. You'll save heaps
>>2809593>American airline>Oh my holly jolly time>out of Warwick, Rhode freakin Island>All the wagecucks of the world are getting vacation timeVisit Lithuania, anonIt is prospering and very welcoming to outsiders, while still 99% White. (Yes, the 1% are very noticeable.)
>>2809594>>2809600im a wagecuck and that's when i actually get a couple weeks off
The midsummer weather is perfect for a New Englander.
One-way is often way more expensive than round trip.
>>2809600Idk anon, I heard AA had crashes and rude service. My parents flew delta for everything so the customer loyalty and stuff is there. I'd rather stick with something like Delta because if I have issues I can tell them my parents long customer history with them to get shit done right.
>>2809593>can't afford $1.5ktravel is for people who have money. get a better job first.
>>2809593>$1,000 is a lotAre you from the third-world? Or do you just work a really shitty minimum wage job?
>>2809593I've never paid more than $800 for a flight, even from the west coast.LAX has direct flights to Vienna, Zurich, and Frankfurt for usually between $600-800I save money when I'm there by staying in hostels and avoiding tourist trap restaurants
you have to find the root cause or who owns the travel industry
>>2809805>>2809800>2 week trip>flights: $1.5k each way = $3k>hotel: $200/night = $2.8k>misc spending (restaurants, entry fees, etc): $100/day = $1.4k>total: $7.2k for 2 weeksthat's a lot even when you have a decent job
>>2809600That's unironically still expensiveAre you burgers getting scammed?In usd I pay about $150 for an 8 hour flight from Sydney to Singapore, neither are low cost destinations
>>2809824Singapore airlines is a pretty unfair airline to compare most anything else to given how they operateAlso, muh 8hr flight doesn't matter much, LAS to MIA can be as low as 90 USD and that's like 5-6 hours. Depends on many many factors
>>2809825>Singapore airlines is a pretty unfair airline to compare most anything else to given how they operate?
>>2809593>plus hotelsThey don't, that's why AirBnB is exploding to the point that it's becoming an important factor in raising the cost of real-estate and turning some city centers into dead zones because owners benefit more from an AirBnB than a regular tennant..
>>2809823>flights: $1.5k each way = $3kMaybe first class. In America you can easily find round trip flight to Europe for under $1.5k combined easily >hotel: $200/night = $2.8kAgain, you must be staying in first class. Go to a hostel>misc spending (restaurants, entry fees, etc): $100/day = $1.4kThis is fair, but there are many ways you can reduce this. Most big cities have a welcome card you can buy that gives discounts for museums and transportation.>total: $7.2k for 2 weeksIt's very easy to have a great time for much cheaper
>>2809825>las to miaThat's not international though? It's big difference once you get immigration/customs involvedNot sure what you're issue is with Singapore airlines either (it's actually on scoot their lcc) Scoot is good value, super cute hostesses too
>>2809833You definitely don't need to spend $200/night on lodging in Lithuania. I spent $35/night in LT and $29/night in PL (under the current weak dollar). Rooms in Poland were bigger and better than in Lithuania. >restaurantsEurope is not Asia. Eat at home, anon. All my places of lodging have kitchens.
>>2809754>customer loyaltyClearly Delta doesn't give a fuck about YOUR loyalty if they are trying to rip you off like this on a fucking two-layover flight (which most other carriers offer at reduced rates).
>>2809824>flying from one Chinese country to anotherThat's not international, anon
>>2809602Well that sucks for you but Christmas time is one of the peak tourism seasons for Europe because of all the christmas markets and christcucks from America wanting to do a pilgrimage
>>2809828Signapoe Airlines is majority owned by the Singapoe government. Aka the government artificially suppresses the price to bring more people into the country
>>2809852why do you want him to go to lithuania so much
>>2809862They made 3 billy profit last year you dumbass
>>2809858Not sure I can come back from this, fair call
>>2809852>eat at home>while travelingUnless you're staying for a really long time, why the fuck would I eat at home? I travel for the experience. I can eat at home while I'm at home
>>2809593cuz you live in bumfuck nowhere
>>2809593Thats good, keeps the riff raff out. I went to tulum recently since theres cheap direct flights. Niggers everywhere. Trip ruined
>>2809879Wow amazing anon, doesn't change the fact they have cheap routes.>>2809843>That's not international though? It's big difference once you get immigration/customs involvedSo what? That doesn't mean too terribly much as now you can't even bank in on the USD to foreign conversion rate
>>2809852Alright fine, next time I go to Europe I'll check out Vilnius and the coast.
>>2809932Some parts of the world don't have a restaurant culture.
>>2810032name 5 countries where you can't go out to eat
>>2809879And Singapore Air is the countries only Airline vs. countries with competitors for all intent and purposes. Singapore Airlines also owns a large chain of hotels, credit cards, Scoot, and so on; if you know ANYTHING about Singapore then '3 billy' is actually surprisingly low when you total it out.
>>2810033why eat when you can hook up an IV at a medspa
For the non retarded answers to OPAirlines make their megabucks on 1 way "get there now" travelers because they are often business individuals who aren't directly paying for it. Throw on some return date or onward travel and watch the prices drop like a rock. See >>2809600I travel for work and the amount of times we are nearing at the end of the year and have to throw on an arbitrary "return" to lower the price of the flight is absurd. It varies airline by airline and route by route but you have a shit load of airport layover and feesAlso since most glossed over this. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU LEAVING FROM PVD INSTEAD OF A CHEAP 1-2 HOUR TRAIN TO JFK/BOS. It's probably a bulk of the cost leaving from that 2bit airport built for boomers
>>2810044FlixBus from Providence to Boston is 1 hour and costs $16.
>>2810062In the NE I'd rather do the train so you can just walk 5 minutes to the connecting train to the airport but hey whatever works, pretty sure a train would be sub 50
>>2810068nah amtrak is overpriced and shitty
>>2810072It's 13.25 for a standard ticket from Providence to Boston every 90 or so minutes for a ~1hr train ride... I was just saying under 50 because I dunno how many bags OP would be taking, I believe 1 is free similar to flix. If OP is from RI he can just use his standard fare card to walk on.
>>2810072amtrak doesn't have 'standard fares'. Their website is so shitty it won't even let me look up the price
>>2810078It's the MTAB you fucking retard, google states it on maps or you know you could be from the US before being a retard.
>>2810108You kept calling it "the train" for 10 posts before using the real name. Sounds like you're the retard.
>>2810110If you're from the NE you know what I mean retard, fucking single digit IQ right there.
>>2810111You don't know the names of anything here. You must be a retarded jeet.
>>2809862uh, tons of countries subsidize their flagship carriers and give them special priviledges
>>2810044Haven't they tried to stop that shit? There's two leg flights which are cheaper than direct to the layover so people book the longer one and then they get all pissy about you leaving at first airport
>>2809593how do u not find a flight from usa to lisbon?
>>2810033Poland is not a good country for dining out.You can make much better Mexican food in your rental kitchen than you can get on the street in Mexico, if we're being honest. It will cost you less too.
>>2810068Amtrak's Northeast Regional from Providence to Boston starts at $18.
>>2810952Real price is closer to $40-50.
>>2809805Paying 2x as much as normal is retarded. Money won't save you from being retarded.
>>2811025Great and if OP does that he saves 1/2 of the flight costs. ~20 dollars is the starting price so as long as anon doesn't mind having his bags on his lap he should be fine. They usually don't care that much about baggage unless you go full chinese tier.>>2810342You're thinking of third leg skip, which sometimes they crack down on if it's obvious. Missing a return ticket on a round trip flight is completely different story.
>>2811308>>2810952Potentially much more than 50%. I grew up in the Midwest. Most of the time, I'd save at least a few hundred dollars on tickets by booking nighttime flights out of Chicago and taking Amtrak to Union Station the same afternoon. I've gotten even better deals out of NYC and have scored one-way fares to Iceland, the United Kingdom, and Germany for $100-$150, which wouldn't have been possible from Chicago or my local airport.
>>2811308He'll save even more with busses. Amtrak is a ripoff.
>>2811459Cool go ride a flix bus compared to Amtrak in NE, then get back to me about how you're happy you didn't spend 5 extra dollars.
>amtrak>bus>spend 3 hours to save $50???
>>2811465Amtrak is $50 to FlixBus's $18. You must have lost part of your brain on your bumpy Amtrak ride.
>>2811469theres only one trip (at 8pm), no return trip, and it's probably filled with poors
>>2811471Made up. There are plenty of trips. "Probably" proves you've never taken a bus.
>>2811469MATB is literally 12.25 dollars one wayThe non-high speed ticket is 22The high speed Acela ticket is ~50You're a retard who's never been to the north east. Why you only bring up amtrak makes me think you're either non US or just a retard from LA
>>2811473There's no MATB retard. It's called MBTA. Go back to your turdie shithole.
>minor spelling mistake>I winActual fucking retardYour prices were still way off, the time tables are nearly identical of a bus vs. train but you aren't subject to the more prone backups. Why you'e obsessed with a bus compared to a train that rolls through every hour and puts you right at the station to connect to the Airport station is questionable.
>>2811477You can't even tell the difference between Amtrak and MBTA. You don't know anything about trains other than what you looked up on Google Maps 5 minutes ago, and you can't even read Google Maps correctly.
What a shitty way to fish for (You)'s
>>2811477> time tables are nearly identical of a bus vs. trainLearn English before sneaking into the country.
>>2809593hi fellow rhode islander! have fun going to portugal. very stereotypical of u lol. but yeah its worth the hour drive or train to boston for international
>>2813410i fucking hate going to boston though. it's such a shitty drive especially since the flights leave so early
>>2811480you must be the life of the party if you aren't trolling
>>2813837So early? I don't see any early flights from Boston to Lisbon. 11:25 PM departure and 10:40 AM arrival for Delta. >>2811480How much of a NeverTraveller do you have to be to shit on someone for using Google Maps to look up public transport for a potential trip? It should always be the first option you should check.
>>2811483Timetables are meaningless when you consider that one time reputations for train vs. bus for inner-city connections wild differently almost everywhere, the US would be for more likely to be shit on due to a traffic jam. This is as bad as those fucking "well actually" weebs about Japan who go "UHH DID YOU MEAN THE JR LINE OR THE SUBWAY THEY ARE DIFFERENT YOU KNOW!" like holy shit dude, your battling semantics. Most people don't regularly pop on the train from RI or NY to Boston outside maybe once every 1-3 years if that. Taking the bus between cities in the northeast is the most retarded shit ever that only an actual turdworlder would recommend because how filled with retards and schizos they are. Not saying the train network is that high of a bar but man you must have mental disorders if you are seriously recommending the bus for this.
>>2815729>potential tripso you admit you don't live here
>>2815904train autists shouldn't be allowed to leave their own continents
>>2809805>>2809800Why do feds like this guy come on here and say such idiotic things?
>>2815904The difference between metro service and intercity train service is a lot more than semantics. Come on now. The metro, you show up whenever you want, get your ticket and board the next train that comes through. Intercity rail, you pick a specific train in advance and show up ahead of its scheduled departure time.In California, intercity buses are much faster than intercity trains.
>>2818569There are IC trains every 90 minutes and the trains don't sell out, you can book on the app the way to the train station>muh bus in californiaokay Pedro
>>2809593Europe is expensive, get used to it.If you're responsible with your personal economy it's no problem. We plan ahead, don't waste money on pointless stuff like $10 Starbucks, commute with bicycle rather than car, etc.
>>2818706next you'll be telling us to take the "MATB" all the way to portugal
