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What countries besides America have the absolute best quality hamburgers?
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>>2813270
Netherlands have a few good ones. We have MCDonalds and Burger King and snackbars who sell hamburgers like Kwalitaria
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>>2813277
Maybe it's changed since I last went, but I visited every year growing up and never got a decent burger.
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>>2813277
>McDonald's and Burger King
Those are fast food places. Not considered high quality. :/
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>>2813279
I was surprised that you can't find decent burgers in Mexico. I thought they had a bunch of cows.
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>>2813282
Just get a torta* instead. It's the Mexican equivalent.

*In most other Spanish dialects this refers to cake, but in Mexican it is a cooked meat sandwich with vegetables and condiments.
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>>2813285
They had good Coke though. The soda
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>>2813270
Malaysian street burgers have great beef patties, but the vendors have a bad habit of skimping on everything else due to their small profit margins. A double beef burger costs about $1.50 at most street stands, which is about as cheap as you can get anywhere in the world. Yeah there are artisanal burgers, smashburgers made with Australian beef and even Wagyu burgers made with Japanese beef and other imported ingredients. My cheap ass balked at paying $7 for a burger in Malaysia, but that's still a third the price of a similar burger at a restaurant in the West.
>>2813282
Mexican cows feed on arid scrubland and walk many miles a day. Their beef tends to be tough, dry and chewy. American cows are kept imprisoned in feedlots and fed hormone-laden feeds, which ensures their meat is tender and juicy.
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>>2813270
High-end burgers in Switzerland are often world-class, with prices to match. There are a lot of forgettable-to-downright-bad burgers available there, as well—having lived there for the better part of a decade, I am confident in saying that most Swiss people aren’t very fussy eaters. But domestic meat includes some of the best in the world, and obsessives are very serious about their grilled flesh.

I have had serious burgers in Korea, as well, although they may be seasoned with Korean flavors, so they’re not necessarily classic to some purists.
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>>2813270
unironically Portugal. Portugal is the original greasy fried food culture. Best burgers I ever had were there.
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>>2813270
I'm a burger enthusiast. Before talking about "best", I think it's necessary to determine what's important to you in a burger. For me, it's all about the meat-- grind, fat content, seasoning, and how it's cooked. I want a crunchy sear on the outside and a juicy pink center with a bit of salt and umami in the seasoning. The bread is second for me. A good bun won't make a burger, but bad choice of bun can ruin an otherwise good burger. It should complement the meat, not upstage it. After that come the sauces and toppings, in that order. A good burger place can serve me just meat on a bun, and I will thoroughly enjoy it. Other people have other priorities.

Anyway, best burger I've had anywhere as at La Villa de Chef in Flores, Guatemala. I only visited once, so I don't know if I just got lucky or if they were consistently that good. Anyway, the meat was absolute perfection with an amazing sear and amazing seasoning. The bread, sauce, and toppings were all superbly well judged and did exactly the right thing-- complemented the meat. That was a damn good burger.

I actually don't think the US is the best place to get burgers. Too many places have mediocre quality. I assume it's because they're all buying the same shit from Sysco. They are good places, but they're almost all independent and local places, and it can be difficult to find them. If you ask people, you'll often end up getting recommendations for places that people think are cool, but the burgers are nothing special. I first noticed this when everyone in Nashville recommended "The Pharmacy", which is a great place, and I like going, but the burgers are nothing special. The only chain in the national US that I think does a decent job is smashburger, and in that case, the meat isn't even that great. It wins by simply being generally not bad.
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>>2813354
contd.

Outside the US, I think Hungary does burgers particularly well.

The local chains Zing, Bamba Marha, and Simon's are all solid. There are plenty of very good independent places, and even just random restaurants are likely to be good.

One weak points it that Hungarian places tend to go over-the-top with toppings and sauces in the same way that hipster burger places in the US often do. They want to make it interesting and special and unique, but then the toppings take center stage rather than the beef, and it's not as good as it would have been if it were just some meat on a bun with a little bit of sauce and minimum tastefully chosen toppings.

The other thing to be aware of are "retro burgers", which are a regional style. Basically, in "the old days", Hungarians learned about hamburgers from seeing them in American TV and movies, and they tried to replicate them based on what they saw. These will usually be a beef/pork blend, because Hungarians don't eat much beef (despite raising excellent cows!), and because hamburger implies ham, which means pork. I don't mind them, but it's a bit WTF to get one without knowing the context.
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>>2813354
>>2813355
>recommends a random Guatemalan place in the middle of the jungle that doesn't exist anymore
>Fucking Hungary putting pork on the patties
>Calls himself a "Burger Enthusiast"
This has to be a troll.
This is the most söy post I've ever seen here. I would give you a pass for just that but your recs are fucking shit too.
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An anon on the PH general recommended that I get a burger at the Drake Hotel in Angeles City. He said it was the best burger he had in all of Asia. Phat Australian beef patty served on a brioche bun with all the extras. I had the double for breakfast, it ran me 399 pesos IIRC. Freakin' 10 ounces of beef patty, sat in my gut like a lump of lead for the rest of the day.
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>>2813282
That's starting to change with a lot of Mexicans having lived in the US now going home wanting stuff they remember from in & out or Whataburger or the habit.
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I've tried burgers outside the US and they are always disappointing. I'll take an In & Out burger over any burger I've ever eaten in Europe any day.

But I do really like steak in Europe. Spain had amazing steaks.
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>>2813282
Mexico doesn't have good cattle, and so no good beef. The climate isn't very suitable for Angus, Hereford, Charolais and all the other good breeds.

You need to go all the way to the bottom of South America for that. Where the climate is temperate (Argentina, Uruguay, South Brazil). Prolly good burgers there too (haven't tried) but why the fuck would you eat a burger when there's so much quality steak? They sell tenderloin sandwiches on food trucks like they sell hot dogs in America.
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>>2813270
Currently in Armenia and you can find American restuarant quality burgers in chains like Black Angus for fraction of the cost. Also plenty of good shwarama places have drunk food burgers.
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>>2813270
Hawaii.
>>2813391
What the fuck? You're telling me there's a cow out there called the "beefmaster" and he's getting outsold by "angus?" What the fuck are hamburger places even doing? If I sold hamburgers that would be my marketing gimmick. "Hamburgers made with 100% beefmaster meat."
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>>2813270
Canada. I've never gone wrong with Harvey's
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>>2813570
IFKYK in Yerevan has a pretty darn good Memphis chicken burger. The triple smash burger isnt bad either.
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>>2813354
>umami
Yeah please neck yourself right now reddit fag.
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>>2813391
I heard that Brazil has a lot of hamburger style American diners there. I don't like the current government. It was safer under Bolsonaro.
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>>2813361
Food looks very American
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>>2814114
no way i am ever traveling to brazil
i don't know why people travel to these latinx shitholes
you can get the best burgers in america already
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>>2814117
wow that looks fantastic
might give ph a try
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>>2813361
Look cozy AF
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>>2814121
Putting other flags above thier own is wild...is that the Australian flag
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>>2813391
Can you cook up Brahman? Do they taste good?
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>>2813290
Do they have ketchup and mustard because that's all I really need
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>>2813354
It bothers me this Guatemala recommender knows about the dreaded Sysco.
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>>2813583
I heard they constantly put Mayo on burgers. I don't like that
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>>2814175
Canadian food is universally considered to be terrible. I'd set your expectations very low.
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>>2813290
I came here to say Malayasia as well. I had a street burger in Kuantan and it hit the spot.
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>>2813290
The trade off is that Mexican fruits and veggies are better than the crap that ends up in most grocery stores and restaurants in the US.
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>>2813282
That's bullshit. Where did you go?
>>2813391
>Mexico doesn't have good cattle
Wrong too. Beef from Sonora is pretty good.
>Angus, Hereford, Charolais
These breeds are also in Mexico.
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>>2814117
>>2814121
Best part is seeing all the old boomer coomers come down in the morning with their bored pinay whores, who barely even glance up from their phones.
>>2814118
You are clearly smaller than the average Brazilian man, who weights 181 pounds. Being at a physical disadvantage contributes to feelings of insecurity.
>>2814171
Ketchup and chili sauce (basically spicy, non-sweet ketchup) is everywhere. But for a continent obsessed with spice and flavor, it's a mystery why Asians don't do mustard.
>>2814471
Dammit, I miss having a 30 peso jugo verde blended up on the spot for me every morning at the little street-corner shop. Some of those Mexican veggie juices are fucking amazing.
>>2814507
You'd be surprised how much of the beef consumed in northern Mexico is imported from Texas. Come from the Mexican heartland and you're like
>"whoa, these tacos de asada are freakin amazing! I never had meat this good!"
>"holy fuck, 150 pesos for an orden? Tacos down south are 50 pesos for an orden."
Imported beef, that's why.
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>>2813391
Costa Rica has delicious brahmin mix cattle, that are grass fed naturally foraging. I had very good burgers while there. Plus lizano salsa
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Brittain
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>>2813340
Could you please post some places with good burgers? I'm near Daehwa, tried some local places for all kinds of food and it's pretty rough. Shitload of plant-based fats, oils, protein used liberally in all kinds of food. Had this one burger which was extremely fat, low-quality patty, was borderline disgusting. I quickly gave up on most everything except this one sushi place which is tolerable as long as you throw away the condiments (pickled vegetables are np). This is not even Korea-specific problem, entirety of asia is like this.
>pic unrelated
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>>2813280
they are pretty good tho
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>>2813270
I was in Argentina last month. There were a LOT of excellent burger joints there. The best of the ones that I tried was simply named Burger Joint.
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>>2813290
>American cows are kept imprisoned in feedlots and fed hormone-laden feeds
No one feeds cows "hormones". They're fed up on corn.

Dairy cows are the ones that get injected with hormones to keep them lactating.
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>>2814121
Holy shit they have BISCUITS AND GRAVY
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>>2813270
For your own sake, don't try the french "elevated burger".
Or rather, try it once and just once because every hipster burger restaurant is the same
>hon hon hon we are putting des red onions in ze bugère and make ze sauce oursèlves izeunt it amaïzingue?
They're all the same. No exception. None.
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>>2814827
Asians don't understand burgers, they are not originally from their culture, so don't expect them to be amazing. Beef was introduced very recently (post-ww2) in Asia, before it was a luxury for the nobility or not really part of the diet at all. Even today they don't eat much meat.

Imagine making a burger out of a photo someone showed you, and trying to copy that. That's basically it. Maybe now it's getting better but I was not impressed.
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>>2815569
The interesting thing about French burgers is that some recipes involve good regional cheeses like morbier or bleu d'auvergne, and sometimes stronger tasting sauces like Dijon mustard or sauce au poivre, most joints create their own recipes.
But they are way too expensive for what they are. And the branding of their joints is often cringe, like a middle-aged HR manager trying to pretend he is your best friend. I can't justify spending 15 or 20€ in a "gourmet burger", when I can go to the Lebanese place or the Sichuan place right next to it, it's much cheaper and are more interesting. Get the cheese at a local market and eat it with fresh bread, that's the normal traditional way of enjoying it. Or try raclette.
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I make a point to try certain things in other countries for the laughs; Mexican, burgers, etc;
Italy has some of the worst hamburgers I’ve ever had
Almost American school food level

Greece had a surprisingly good burger, they had a different taste that I’ve never had because they used a Greek sauce and instead of regular tomatoes they used the cherry tomatoes
Was unironically a fantastic burger
Japan has a decent burger depending on where you go, very inconsistent in quality and taste where you go

Greece I’d eat again
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>>2814170
No, they don't taste good. But that's what most American fast food hamburgers are made of. They import the beef cheap from Brazil.
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>>2813361
I will say that ph burgers are stacked with onions to cover the quality of beef, I didn’t enjoy most ph burgers.
Maybe the place he tried specifically was good though
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>>2814507
Sonora is one of the few places that do beef in burritos so I’d hope their beef quality is decent
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>>2816587
>Japan has a decent burger
false. MOS burger is the exact equivalent of Hesburger in Scandinavia - nasty fast food with none of the superior taste of American brands. you'd be much better off with a steak rib sandwich at Doutor

>>2814175
I think that's more of a Wendy's thing, and in any case you can just order the burger that doesn't have mayo
>>2814222
everything else may be shit, but burgers are good in Canada. America and Canada are the only good burger destinations
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>>2816620
Burger King always puts mayo in burgers. McDonalds has their big mac sauce but it's worse than plain mayo
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>>2816642
exactly. fuck that anon for tarnishing Harvey's when literally they are the complete opposite and it's more accurate for their competitors
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>>2816591
Haha no they're not idiot
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>>2816433
>He really said Sichuan
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>>2816875

New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › 2025 › 05 › 10 › world › americas › trade-war-burgers-brazil-meat.html
Another Casualty of the Trade Wars? Burgers Made With Brazilian Beef ...
May 10, 2025
>Hamburger patties grilled in American backyard barbecues and fast-food restaurants are often a blend of ground beef, both homegrown and imported from other countries, especially Brazil.

Without Brazil, Burger Chains Face Higher Beef Prices
Aug 14, 2025
>For months American burger joints have leaned on beef from Brazil to feed their customers.

>U.S. President Donald Trump's plan for a 50% tariff on goods from Brazil will likely raise prices for beef used in American hamburgers, traders and analysts said on Thursday
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>>2816900
Best part about it is that even hamburger patties in the supermarket labeled "Made in USA" are literally just shaped and packaged in the USA but are actually Brazilian beef. If you want actual US beef, you have to make sure you are getting packages of USDA Choice beef.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/willie-nelson-farm-aid-made-in-usa-beef-neil-young-dave-matthews-margo-price/

>"Have you ever noticed 'Product of the USA' on the label of beef in the grocery store? Would it surprise you to learn that the animal it came from may have been raised and processed in Brazil or New Zealand?" asks a recent blog post by Farm Aid, a group devoted to helping family farms survive.

>American meat eaters may not realize that beef labeled a "Product of the USA" may have been imported from another country, according to the legendary musician's group, which is throwing its weight behind bipartisan efforts in Congress to bring back mandatory country-of-origin labeling, or COOL, for beef.

>"The current beef labeling system in this country allows imported beef that is neither born nor raised in the United States, but simply finished here, to be labeled as a product of the USA," Thune said in a news release announcing the bill. "This process is unfair to cattle producers and misleading for consumers. When you see a 'product of the USA' label on the grocery store shelf, it should mean just that."
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>>2813290
What they fuck are you talking about?
Ramly burgers in Malaysia are the literal epitome of assholes and lips squashed into a patty.
Those burgers were the centerpiece of the Malaysian beef scandal where it was actually horse and other assorted crap from non-cow animals that no one wants to eat branded as beef and sold slathered in sauce to hide the lies.
You people clearly have no fucking tastebuds or sense of decency.
Malaysians can't cook food for shit, all they do is keep adding oil and sugar to literal garbage until it becomes palatable enough for consumption.
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>>2813290
>American cows are kept imprisoned in feedlots
they are just finished in feedlots. most of their lives are spent on the range
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Japan, surprisingly.

Japanese culture places great value on 生きがい, an almost spiritual concept revolving around doing every little thing in life with great respect. It's why their cities are clean, work ethic is high, art is meticulous, and also why their cooking is world class regardless of what cuisine you're talking about.

Even a McDonald's burger in Japan can rival much more expensive restaurants in the US and the rest of the world, easily.
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>>2818752
>Even a McDonald's burger in Japan can rival much more expensive restaurants in the US and the rest of the world, easily.
Holy weeaboo bullshit
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I don’t know, but definitely not Japan. They might have the worst.
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>>2818754
Guessing you've never actually tried it, then?
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>>2818771
You've never had a good burger if you think McDonald's is peak cuisine ANYWHERE. Yes, quality in Japan and a few other countries is superior to an American McDonald's but your post is literally the most retarded weaboo shit I've ever read.

At the end of the day you are still eating a bunch of processed carbs and beef imported from America/Australia/etc because the Japanese domestic supply is limited, due to lack of space, they import most of the beef, particularly that in McD.
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>>2818771
>>2818782
Citing McDonald's slop as peak cuisine is also an insult to good Japanese burger spots (which there are aplenty) and Japanese cuisine in general.
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>>2818782
>you think McDonald's is peak cuisine
>>2818785
>Citing McDonald's slop as peak cuisine

When the fuck did I ever say it is "peak cuisine"? Guessing you're the same person replying as though you are multiple people.
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>>2818788
You said McDonald's in Japan is on par with actual expensive restaurants in the rest of the world, retarded weeaboo post.

I'm not pretending to be multiple people,
I'm all of these
>>2818785
>>2818782
>>2818754

But I'm not >>2818757
Japan does have good burgers.
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>>2818790
>You said McDonald's in Japan is on par with actual expensive restaurants in the rest of the world

Because burger restaurants in the west are really not that fucking good.

I did however NEVER use the word "peak"; that's just your zoomer brain rot showing.

Actual Japanese cuisine in Japan still BTFOs burgers.
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>>2818790
Dunno I'm not from some turdworld shithole but I didn't have time limits like back home and could just chill and charge my phone and had free wifi, one of the people working there even refilled my drink FOR FREE no tip or anything, and I wasn't hassled by any homeless there the entire time. That kind of relaxing and comfy environment wouldn't be found anywhere in LA outside maybe the gated communities.
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>>2818793
A lot of McDonald's in other parts of the world are like that. In my country there's also free wifi and no time limits. Depending on the area you may get some homeless dude or not, but it's also not the typical experience (particularly in smaller cities and towns).
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>>2813270
Chile
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>>2813270
Really comes down to quality of the beef
Probably Australia and Japan desu sama baka desu desu
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>>2818881
Sorry timmy, wypipo cannot do proper burgers, I need some spice in there.
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>>2818881
beef gets shipped around all over the world, you can get a good burger and horrible burger anywhere depending on how much you are willing to fork out
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>>2818892
I'm sure you can go to the Michelin Star place in Tunisia and get the wagyu burger but we are talking about the average quality of the joints here. So yeah it matters if the average beef is trash and they don't know how to make a good burger.
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>>2814827
I’m afraid I don’t remember the name of the place… it was small and in Seoul and kind of expensive. Might have been Brooklyn Burgers? That place gets good reviews from expats and may have been the place I went.

The burger that tasted Korean was at some bar/pub in Hongdae. It may have been a pop-up place rather than a full-time kitchen. It wasn’t the best thing I’ve ever eaten, but the beef seemed to be of good quality and I enjoyed the fact that it tasted a little like bulgogi, with onions sauce and sesame oil notes (not sure if that word is still filtered). I think it even had kimchi on it.
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>>2813577
I heard they're more expensive in Hawaii because they have to be imported from the mainland.
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>>2816157
Burgers make it hard to travel. I start craving them and can't find good ones anywhere and always yearn for home.
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>>2816922
That's messed up
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>>2816932
Goodness what a nightmare
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>>2818644
Why do Muslims have so little beef even compared to vegan Hindus
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>>2819175
All bout dat mutton.

I saw some cows in Afghanistan, only a few since it was in the mountains. They were mountain cows. Places you expected sheep...but cows. Kind of odd seeing them on rocky edges.
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Fergburger in Queenstown New Zealand was the best burger I've ever had.
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>>2816157
>Beef was introduced very recently (post-ww2) in Asia, before it was a luxury for the nobility or not really part of the diet at all. Even today they don't eat much meat.
Not even close. Asians used cattle (really oxen and water buffaloes) for working their farms -- plowing, dragging carts, that sort of thing. As such, these animals became treasured helpers instead of food sources -- "cows are friends not food!" to borrow from Finding Nemo. That's why Asians tend not to eat them, but instead to eat pork and chicken, which were always mainly a food source.



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