>>2813557
>im not asking about sex tourism
Uh oh.
>5’10 white you
Fellow manlet king.

Good luck. Philippines or Vietnam is probably you’re best bet

>>2813561
>Uh oh
What do you mean by "uh oh"?
>Good luck. Philippines or Vietnam is probably you’re best bet
Do you have any actual experience with these countries? Or just throwing those out as the usual go tos? Vietnamese women are often quite beautiful, I'll admit but I get the impression they aren't too receptive to western men for cultural reasons as well as language barrier.

>>2813557
If you are not a sub6 nor an autist you can find a decent fling in most european college towns. East asia, sea, or latin america if you are neither if these things and are a passport bro coper but chances are they fit your disqualifiers more often than not.

>>2813565
If you want a non-prosti gf who speaks English and likes white guys PH is tutorial mode. Some people will start screeching about how it isn’t like it used to be but I doubt it’s much worse

Vietnamese girls are supposed solid gf material if you put in some groundwork

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>>2813566
America is nightmare mode and I'm in the most nightmare mode part of America (Seattle) and I can still pull when I put the effort in. It's just too depressing and I don't bother anymore, because for all the effort the women just aren't high quality, even when they're decent looking. I'm not looking for flings. I'm looking for a decent looking woman who isn't a whore that I can hopefully form a meaningful relationship with
>but chances are they fit your disqualifiers more often than not.
If you're first response is to recommend places for a fling, then they probably are :/ Is it too late to find a good woman?

>>2813571
>Some people will start screeching about how it isn’t like it used to be but I doubt it’s much worse
More often than not these types are usually oldcels or guys who would have been filtered out regardless.

>>2813571
>If you want a non-prosti gf who speaks English and likes white guys PH is tutorial mode.
Have you been? Do you have any cities you'd recommend?
>Vietnamese girls are supposed solid gf material if you put in some groundwork
I honestly think Vietnamese women are some of the most beautiful women out there honestly. I'm just curious how approachable they are and if there's any cities you would recommend?

>>2813573
If you have success in the US then for sure you can find higher quality in most of Europe. Just pick a decent sized city with a university and you will be fine, just make sure you have a reason to be there like for a course instead of floundering around looking for a nut or your trad waifu. I am jaded on the matter but unfortunately these women do not exist, you will have to go through the modern day hook up ringer and just make the woman want to commit. Passport bro trad coping is a bandaid and will lead to more issues than not, protect yourself and don't fall for memes. In 2025 there are no such things as good women, some are just easier to acquire than others but their drives are all the same. Your best bet is honestly making long term plans to move to a country of choice, and most of these copers wanting to move to countries where the people look nothing like them will be burnt out or face reality in one form or the other.

>>2813578
To add don't listen to the loud voices on geocoping servers or passport bros, more often than not these are mentally stunted autists and excess males who never integrated properly and cope with blackpill memes

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>>2813580
>In 2025 there are no such things as good women, some are just easier to acquire than others but their drives are all the same
Sadly I think I agree with you
>most of these copers wanting to move to countries where the people look nothing like them will be burnt out or face reality in one form or the other.
Agreed. I'd be most interested in a white woman so my kids would at least look like me. Going for someone "exotic" might seem appealing from a sex stand point at first but I'm sure the novelty would wear off at some point
>Just pick a decent sized city with a university and you will be fine
I've never really been outside my country before. Do you have anywhere in particular you would recommend?

>>2813582
What do the loud voices typically claim? What message am I in danger of hearing?

>>2813586
>What do the loud voices typically claim? What message am I in danger of hearing?
Just how x country is hard, its over for x reason, etc. Just go and see how it is for yourself, try to not rely to hard on dating apps, make friends, and don't prioritize wet holes as your only pergotative. If thats the case then just go to Pattaya unironically

>>2813586
>Agreed. I'd be most interested in a white woman so my kids would at least look like me. Going for someone "exotic" might seem appealing from a sex stand point at first but I'm sure the novelty would wear off at some point
Unfortunately the vast majority of women will run away to the hills the moment you want something serious with them. You have to play the field and just let things happen naturally, and except the fact that in this modern age it will be an uphill battle. Unironcally consider surrogacy if your goal is just muh legacy and kids

>>2813586
>I've never really been outside my country before. Do you have anywhere in particular you would recommend?
Do your own research, find unis that have are related to your field or interest.

>>2813588
I'm depressed and lonely so I don't trust myself in Pattaya. I've been unlucky my whole life and those succubuses would 100% give me some sort of incurable disease. I'm into martial arts, so Thailand and SEA in general is high on my priority list because training would give me something to do with my time and encourage me to be disciplined instead of being a lazy alcoholic like most people are on vacation. As for not relying on dating apps, I'm not really sure what the alternatives are in the 21st century, unless you know better ways to meet women.

>>2813589
>Unfortunately the vast majority of women will run away to the hills the moment you want something serious with them
Why is this? Wtf is wrong with them?
>You have to play the field and just let things happen naturally
I despise hook up culture. I can't even psyop myself to do something like this. Soon as a girl starts putting out quicker than I want her too I'm just disgusted because I figure she's like that with any man (I usually end up being correct).
>Unironcally consider surrogacy if your goal is just muh legacy and kids
I'm honestly a cold introvert who doesn't show enough emotion. I wouldn't be a good single parent and I don't intend on being a single parent. My future kids deserve to have a feminine and loving mom who can balance me out
>>2813591
>Do your own research, find unis that have are related to your field or interest.
Will do

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I'm going to bed guys, it's 4 am here. If any anons reading this have anything they'd like to post, by all means do so as I'll check back to this thread in the morning. Thanks guys

>>2813566
>If you are not a sub6 nor an autist
Do you know which site you're on?

P H I L I P P I N E S

>>2813557
The incel destinations where women are more likely to respond to you being a foreigner with a big wallet are Thailand, Philippines, Laos, Vietnam in SEA, or Colombia and Brazil in Latin America.

Otherwise you need to be a normal self-adjusted person to get into a relationship and if you can't do this in your country, chances are you are not gonna be able to do it abroad.

>>2813557
sweet jesus what a fucking tragic thread
>I don't mind a traditional or more conservative woman
yeah problem is anon that women like that tend not to be into the sort of people who post threads like this
just do what the other saddoes on here do and buy a ticket to go half way round the world to find a desperate third world hooker who can control her vomit reflex long enough to let you touch her
the other alternative is you could try being a better man but we both know that's not going to happen

>>2813653
>the other alternative is you could try being a better man
Then you get rejected because she thinks you're intimidating or a loser because you have to try hard.
You can either jestermaxx or go to another country.

>>2813561
>Philippines or Vietnam is probably you’re best bet
holy FUCK why is everyone here shilling SEA so hard? what is the obsession with these chimps

>>2813655
Because there is an entire industry built around the western incel trying to get laid

>>2813654
>because you have to try hard.
having standards is not "trying hard"
>jestermaxx
i have really no idea what this means. it sounds like something a loser says

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>>2813655
Imagine sending a few texts back and forth, having a 90lb quiet, polite, and complaint asian girl show up at your hotel, let you undress her, do whatever you want with her tiny body, and then watch her gently ride your cock in the closet mirror and watch your cum ooze our while she sits their smilingly with
ethereal Buddhist detachment. I love when they wear those contacts that black out there eyes. It makes them more doll like, which means if you’re a sick animal like me, it’s even more pleasurable

It’s like watching your own porn

I made this girl wear rabbit ears and essentially watch me fuck breed her in her own room while her two other roommates were watching tv at the base condo. She got a little huffy afterwards I think even she felt more degraded than what she was used to.

This is all I have in life gentleman. And it’s enough

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>>2813648
>you need to be a normal self-adjusted person to get into a relationship
This implies that there's any women that I'm naturally meeting in my day to day life to even see me being normal and well adjusted. When you're introverted and your hobbies are primarily male spaces it doesn't work. I don't know any women, so the solution becomes dating apps or cold approaches. Dating apps don't work for me because I don't have good pictures because I'm an introvert and never do anything or go anywhere worth documenting. Cold approaching works for me on occasion but I hate it because it's a pain in the ass and only really works in bars and clubs where all the women end up being whores. You don't find a future wife in a bar or a club, you find a drunk hook up for the night. I can find the latter, but not the former. To find a girlfriend you need community and I don't have that. Just living life doesn't magically mean you'll meet anyone.
>you could try being a better man
I'm in decent shape, hygenic, well adjusted, have my own place, have my own car, had a job which I recently quit desu. I had all the things on paper apart from a shit ton of money. I don't really know what else I could've had or done to be "better" apart from be rich. Have friends too, but they don't know any women either
>>2813656
>>2813658
>>2813663
Everyone here missing the point. I can get laid. That's what I'm trying to get. Whorish women are everywhere, it's not fucking hard. I want a woman that's actually wifeable. I'm increasingly becoming convinced they don't exist anymore

>>2813679
not what I'm trying to get*

>>2813679
Stop listening to people here shilling the slant eyes

>>2813681
Do you recommend anywhere better?

>>2813682
Eastern Europe

>>2813683
Anything more specific like a country or city? Or pretty much anywhere is fine?

>>2813684
Poland and Hungary have friendly people and are westernized enough to be comfortable

>>2813679
Tbh i am strongly considered volunteering for this exact reason - feeling of community and chance to get "normal and self adjusted" without tryharding at meme hobbies like dancing.
Already localized places near me that accepts requests - like old people house where I can play chess with grandma and grandpa's or stuff like teach poor kids programming or maybe driving food packages to poor families. Asked gpt to find emails and generate mail to each such foundation that I want to help, waiting till I have bit more time

>>2813686
Thank you. Both of these look like beautiful countries. I do plan on going to Europe one of these days and I do think central Europe is the most interesting to me.
>>2813690
>feeling of community and chance to get "normal and self adjusted" without tryharding at meme hobbies like dancing.
Yeah volunteering might be a pretty good idea honestly. It seems like it would select for a higher quality of person in those environments. All the things you listed sound worth doing. I hope that goes well for you

>>2813684
Consider Prague. Czechia in general is great now that it's no longer a tourist fad to go there.

>>2813692
also Hungarian food is very good and rich. women are beautiful and nice(although not quite like American nice)

>>2813695
Yeah I've heard Hungarian food is quite good. I've goulash plenty of times which is definitely a favorite of mine. Budapest seems pretty interesting because the architecture and the history has a lot of influence from western and eastern Europe.
>>2813694
Prague looks beautiful as well. I don't know much about it but I definitely want to go. Czechia, Poland and Hungary would be a great itinerary I think, and maybe Germany for a bit too though I hear mixed reviews about Germany these days

wow indigenous women are perfect

>>2813557
>not asking about sex tourism
>getting laid isn't my priority
>spends the rest of the post fantasizing about meeting women (and eventually getting laid, of course)
kek. Denial is a river in Africa, and you're in it for sure.
>>2813557
American culture where I live in Colorado involves adventures in the mountains and on the river, followed by some good wholesome food. "Materialism" is something along the line of getting an e-bike so you can pedal up the mountain roads without murdering your legs in the process. Maybe you should leave Miami or Charlotte or whatever muttified, blingified shithole you're living in and try life in a small White town surrounded by beautiful nature. Either in America, or in Europe.
>>2813571
BTW the consumerism and materialism in many Third World countries (like the Philippines) is much more crass, blatant, and overwhelming than it is in America. Thirdie women who are willing to date a foreign white guy despite having nothing in common with him are the most hollow and materialistic in existence.

>>2813686
>Poland
>friendly
LOL, LMAO

>>2813655
It's the parrot mentality. Parrot hears something, parrot begins repeating it. Parrot never bothers to think about the meaning or implications of what he is saying. Parrot only repeats.

>>2813721
>BTW the consumerism and materialism in many Third World countries (like the Philippines) is much more crass, blatant, and overwhelming than it is in America.
This, where's that "Asian women are le trad" meme comes from anyway?

>>2813737
Don't "trad" women expect men to always pay for everything?

>>2813655
because SEA is way safer than latin America or Africa, it's an obvious choice for an inexperienced traveler

>>2813737
women in any third world countries are much more traditional than US
there are much more women who are virgins until marriage in Africa than in the west

>>2813743
no, in many countries women are expected financially contribute to the family (not half of course)

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>>2813721
There's a massive difference between a meaningful relationship where you enjoy the company of the other person and want a committed life together and then also having sex with that person vs. using a stranger's body to get off then parting ways or paying and then parting ways. Sex with love and sex without love are very different things to me, spoken as someone who has experienced both. By the way I live in Washington state, which isn't too different from Colorado in the sense of outdoorsiness and adventure. Both are wonderful places to be when you have someone to share those experiences with. In Washington though, if you are introverted and don't know a whole lot of people then good luck meeting someone. I grew up in a small town and I live in Seattle right now. There's just more dudes than women here because of the tech sector. Supply and demand puts me on the losing end. As for your mention of the third world, I don't deny that what you say is probably true of a lot of women. However, I never once in this thread brought up or specified Asia specifically. That was the replies I got. I asked about anywhere in the world, and that could include Europe.
>>2813723
I have a lot of Polish ancestry and could certainly pass for a native. If I learned a bit of the language would they still be cold?

>>2813744
That's a stereotype, plenty of Latin American countries are safe, just not the ones people like to go for sex tourism.

Costa Rica, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay are all safe. But the women there won't hop on your dick just because you are a foreigner with money, but you need to have some game and not be a total autist. Big ask on this website.

Same reason people on this board shun Taiwan or South Korea for SEA, you raise the difficulty bar a little and it's over for the coomers here.

>>2813764
If you're not a coomer who's priority is getting laid as quick and often as possible, and would be willing to go slow and go on dates, how doable is that in those countries you mentioned?

>>2813748
That's not very traditional, though.

>>2813766
Plenty doable, I've been across South America, the people are very friendly. If you can handle yourself meeting strangers, making friends, going to a party, approaching women, dress like a normal presentable person, you are good.

South Korea is more shallow, the people there are very superficial, you need to be good looking. But Taiwan or Southern SA people won't care if you have below average looks.

>>2813769
Cool. Spanish would be super easy for me to learn as well. I used to live in Florida and Arizona and occasionally had to speak Spanish in which I realized I knew more than I thought lol
>South Korea is more shallow, the people there are very superficial, you need to be good looking.
I'm probably a 7 if I had to self rate myself. Not a chad but on the cusp of a chad-lite I guess. I would put myself at average at worst

>>2813557
Look for a girl from a country with a strong economy and isn’t trying to escape her shithole country. I tried to find a tradwife in mexico but it turns out women over there are brainwashed by social media. Feminism is pretty common and the only reason they have any interest in an american is so they can travel and take instagram selfies.
Also make sure they come from good loving parents. Unfortunately women who come from good parents and are attractive marry young in their early 20’s, have children, and blossom into well rounded adults. They don’t go for foreigners, from my experience.

>>2813771
Yeah that makes sense. Gives them less incentive to go for anything but actual interest

>>2813770
Be mindful the Spanish dialects are different in each country, so the Spanish there is very different from the Mexican Spanish Americans are familiar with. So for example in Uruguay and Argentina they speak with Italian slang and use different verb conjugations, and in Chile their Spanish has a lot of local slang as well and they speak very fast and skip some letters. So if you are planning on going there it wouldn't hurt to take a refresher course focusing on whatever country you are interested in otherwise they'll be able to understand you, but you won't be able to understand them. Less of an issue with translator apps these days but still.

>>2813774
Yeah I would probably just using language apps and learn and practice while I'm there. I'm interested in traveling to places for long periods of time. Like a month at a time at least. People who go places for only a week or two imo don't get to really experience a places culture. They just take pictures and go home

>>2813679
>i can get laid
No, clearly you can’t. Your thread is the generic lament of an invisible white American male who’s cultural ethos has been retired by the global elite to pave the way for complaint and servile brown people

Only losers driven to the point of desperation even contemplate flying outside their home country to find woman, regardless of the caliber or quality.

When I had a thriving social circle and was regularly getting pussy traveling did not ONCE cross my mind (unless it was a beach trip or something), traveling only became a thing when I became an invisible loser and I was starting to become unhinged from the crushing isolation,

>>2813782
When were you traveling? When was your social circle thriving? How old are you? You have any idea what it's like when your friends don't have the time and everyone is working all the time just to get by? The world has gotten harder grandpa.

>>2813663
I wish the mods weren't yellow fever faggots and would remove hooker posts. fuck your gross bug fetish

>>2813663
>Note: Discussions of prostitution or sex tourism are not permitted on /trv/.

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>>2813787
Yikes…asking the poignant questions
>age
34
>thriving social life
2009-2016
>travel
2018-2024
Yea you’re right zoomie
>>2813806
>>2813815
Listen squidwards. And listen good. You lost. I distinctly remember when I was banned relentlessly by the jeets. All it took to rout their attack was a whimsical lexical change.

You lost the war. Pay fealty to our ideas or get lost.

Oh and a one? This is what I’m attracted to. That’s all I’m gonna say :)

Have a nice day :))

>>2813824
What are you talking about queer? Theres still people openly talking about trannies and underaged hookers. Its against the rules already

I dont know why the mods let the gay pedophile shit slide.

>>2813835
Maybe you should go somewhere else, squidward.

We’ve had quite enough

>>2813840
Youre gay and a pedophile. Theres already places for your kind to congregate

>>2813824
>This is what I’m attracted to.
Grim

>>2813835
>Theres still people openly talking about trannies and underaged hookers
That's you in every thread you go.

>I dont know why the mods let the gay pedophile shit slide.
I don't either. You probably should have been banned already.

>>2813844
Kys pedo. Youre probably bald and wear glasses too

>>2813846
Trolling outside of /b/ is a bannable offense.

>>2813847
>doesnt deny it
Always a baldie into this shit

>>2813846
You got me. I'm also an English teacher.

My guy it sounds like you need some more life experiences ALONE, not while having a girl at your hip. As a guy who can look back and see most of my favorite life experiences being next to a different girl that I loved at the time. I can tell you now that once you get older. You'll honestly wish you did more dumb wild shit while you had the chance. I get being lonely more than anyone else and I literally moved to Seattle by myself while my family is in the south. No school friends, no college, no church family, just me. It sucks sometimes, but you learn to not really give fuck what people think eventually, you gotta find you love about life, get a hobby, workout, listen to some music, travel!!! Even if that means saving for half a year, go see Poland! Or the Philippines!

Once you get more life experiences under your belt, it makes 'living life' a lot easier, because you've 'seen your fair share of things'. Right now, you're in a little box and crave adventure, your epic romance, SOMETHING.

Every dude is like that, find someone who inspires you and make some changes. Because right now, what you are doing isn't working. I know, because I've been in your shoes. :) Just be thankful you haven't had a near death car crash to wake you up to how fragile life really is. Be patient and gracious with yourself. Things really do get better.

All the best brotha!

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>>2813648
>you need to be a normal self-adjusted person to get into a relationship

yes theres nothing that gets a woman wet like a normal well adjusted man. women fiction is filled with stories about women dating well adjusted men

>>2813856
Got em.

>>2813846
>>2813848
Lol squidward is mega mad LOL

>>2813862
Its literally all bald basedboys talking about prostitutes on here

>>2813764
Argentina isn't very safe based on things I've heard
definitely less safe than SEA

>>2813767
why not?

>>2813856
that's why you should go to a poor third world country to look for a wife
women there understand than being pumped and dumped isn't a winning move and crave for stable men with their shit in order

You should Stick to your own country, Murica is still best in all country, Man, Don't come to Thailand

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>>2813877
Whole of Southern South America is safer than the States. You need to exercise normal precautions (it's not Europe) but it's pretty safe yeah, beginner destination for South America. I spent a month there.

Uruguay seems to be the iffy one looking at these stats but I had no problems there either.

>>2813929
Murica was at 5.4 per 100k in 2024, for reference

>>2813886
>>2813840
>>2813824
>>2813663
>>2813561
you are a subhuman jungle fever sexpest, you will die alone from the aids you got getting fucked in the ass by third world ladyboys. when people see your thai or pinoy passport stamp all they think is that you are a loser and a faggot.

stick to your general. i was interested on what people were saying itt.

>>2813879
By the standards of "traditional" on 4chan at least, women shouldn't have any career or financial autonomy at all.

>>2813953
they are probably americans who have been simping for women for centuries
in the rest of the world traditional women are expected to take care of the home AND earn some money, not just being spoiled princesses waiting for men to provide everything

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>>2813936
what do you have against asian women?

>>2813980
Theyre ugly and the people obsessed with them are maladjusted incels

>>2813983
how do you call people who are obsessed with other people private life?

>>2814010
Learn english you dumb fuck

>>2813557
OP no offense but you seem a bit delusional. all the places people suggested ITT have westernized, feminist cultures and women. you won't have a chance with eastern european or southern american women if you can't find a relationship at home. the culture is not that much different to america in these places. everything is globalized.

your choices are to:
1. work on yourself and try to get some dating experience at home.
2. embrace your inceldom and go to SEA and pay for cooms.
3. go for an isolated and backwards country for a tradwaifu. I mean off the wall shit like turkmenistan, somewhere globalization hasn't reached. you may have to convert to islam.

>>2814034
Dont listen to anyone shilling SEA. Its about le ebul western feminist as anywhere else but at least the girls are actually human and attractive

>>2813663
>they wear those contacts that black out there eyes.
that's fucking sad dude

>>2813737
Asian women as a general rule try to be cute rather than sexy. Very rare outside red-light districts to see Asian women walking around with their titties popping out of their shirt, or wearing clingy pants which show the shape of their ass. Sometimes the younger girls wear crop tops, but crop tops are always paired with long pants to avoid showing too much skin. Asian females wouldn't think of going braless in public and letting their titties bounce around under their shirt.
>>2813767
Market ladies are as traditional as it gets.

>>2813877
South America is quite safe if you're 6', well-built and look capable of aggression. It's not safe if you're a manlet dork who can't look other men in the eye. Fear is a prey response.
>>2813929
Ur a Gay used to be really safe and a First World tier country, but their liberalism caught up with them, and now there's a lot of street crime.

>>2814092
a continent of animals with rabid wolfpack social dynamics then
good to know to stay away

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>>2814034
No. I am a highly educated 5"11 millionaire. I can date where I live but its 7/10 women, becuase we are all highly educated, wealthy, and 5"11vis short.
Leaving my opulent bubble, things drastically change.
You are using absolutes though those of us in Miami, Dubai, and LA live very different existences to Krakow Poland.

>>2814610
Poland is discount west, but still in the west. You overestmate how different it is. If you are white, people will assume that you're a local until you start talking. Your wealth and cultural background will give you advantage, but i wouldnt be too sure about the looks. If you want to maximize your foreigner advantage, go to some actual 3rd world country.

>>2814610
Delusional
Probably inherited that money cause you don't understand much about the world my friend

>>2814622
let's also not forget that any decent looking Polish woman can just go across the border to Germany to find a wealthy simp

>>2814034
Nailed it. Threads cancelled

>>2813763
It depends, Anon. It depends. Funny thing is, we like foreigners. What we want is success. If you can take care of yourself, you will be an expat pole to most, and something worse than jews to few. The thing is, someone is always worse than jews to them, so don't care. Learn polish to mingle.

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>>2814034
Fact check: true.

>>2813655
Anime obsessed losers who believe Asian women are like the fantasy they’ve built in their mind. Demure, submissive, feminine, loyal, etc when in reality they’re just after money 99% of the time

>>2815456
I had a ton of success on tinder until 2022-23. Now it’s almost impossible to meet someone. Women are just on there for attention.

>>2815456
>pic
if you go to bkk now as a 4/10 and except to get pussies without paying you're retarded
those guys are ugly back home and are still gonna be ugly on the other side of the world

>thai ladies finally found out farangs coming from eu and usa are only two weeks millionaires
never ever try to flaunt money you don't have to those women, the girl i'm with in thailand i make her pay everything that i don't consume myself, even the water at 711. she knows how much i make and how stingy of a dude i am, thats how it is. you gotta make her understand that there are a line of women waiting for a guy like me, sounds fucking horrible to say but thats the truth, i'm a europoor who makes average salary in my home country, yet it's already 5 times her income

the only true thing about this image is the last part, if you aren't a fat lard you're already doing better than 90% of dude in bkk

>>2813655
>with these chimps
well stay where you at buddy

>>2817369
>I had a ton of success on tinder until 2022-23. Now it’s almost impossible to meet someone.
I see posts like "I had success on dating apps until year X, now it's over" pretty much each year.
>Women are just on there for attention.
They always were.

>>2817367
Yeah the main reason is that incels and other losers believe that Asian women are obedient to men (that's what they usually call "traditional").

>>2813557
Start to explore the nearest forest is free

>>2817416
Choosing a partner based on material security and wealth is the traditional way. Romantic love is a quite modern invention.

>>2817419
I know right? It's absolutely wild that they're all looking for "traditional" women yet constantly complain about Western women being "materialistic" and "gold diggers".

>>2817421
No they complain about Western women not wanting to cook, clean and raise children. That's what they mean by trad.

>>2817505
Well in this case such women aren't hard to find at all outside the West.

>>2817421
Being a gold digger is something else than marrying for money. There is also an exploitative element to it.

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>Go to colombia
>Get upset stomach on second day of trip
>Ate lots of empanadas, ajiaco y drinking the quimjuice of cheap Cartagena street whores
>In restaurant, about to shit self
>Run to bathroom, see M on door for men
>Unleash anal machine guns
>Betterthananydrug.exe
>Almost cracked the ceramic bowl
>Step out feeling proud of myself
>Two foid thirdies in the bathroom staring at me

TIL that in Spanish M stands for Mujeres (women)

>>2817622
Did you get their numbers?

>>2817622
Thats funny. Have the Colombians started using toilet seats yet?

>>2813557
Japan is where soul finds hole

>>2817370
why everyone is talking about bkk? it hasn't been a good option for "getting women without paying" for at least a decade
are normies too stupid to understand supply and demand?

>>2817695
Compared to the west, it is still an excellent option.

>>2817697
well anything is better than the west, but why chose bkk when basically any SEA city (except Singapore) is way better?

>>2817700
For many people, it is the first and the last SEA destination and they dont look any further. The english level is generally good enough, so you wont need to resort to using a translator, which kills the vibe. Locals dating foreigners is not uncommon there, so there is less social stigma for the girl. It is also a fun place to explore with a local.

>>2817695
idk man my tinder was full as soon as I had arrived at my hotel and had dinner with the woman i still see to this day the same day. im lucky if back home i get a match a day

>Hey gaiz how can I find hoo- i mean trad non materialistic women heh heh
Accept yourself first my friend

You'll travel and realise the bugs lf asia are just as shallow and hollow and appreciate our shitty failing nation even more. Whole world is cooked now

>>2818062
OP here. I had a tinder a while back that I made but was disillusioned with because in Seattle I didn't get a match for the entire first week. Decided it wasn't worth it. Set my location to Bangkok out of curiosity and got a hundred matches in the first day. This was post covid btw. It doesn't seem as bad as the doomers in this thread. I would self assess myself as a 7 so not bad myself, but certainly no prime Dicaprio

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That's how an average farang's profile looks like in BKK 48 hours after installing the app - i just have one generic photo and no description (i am a different poster than the last anon)

indigenous native girls are hot

>>2819826
>muh likes on dating apps
this doesnt mean anything you faggot

>>2819826
>he thinks the bot liking his page are real

bro you're cooked

>>2813571
>Vietnamese girls are supposed solid gf material if you put in some groundwork
money*

>>2820199
OP's picrel is a photoshop.
If they were hot, they would've been mestizo-fied by now.

>>2817601
>Being a gold digger is something else than marrying for money
How so?

>>2820229
Ok, what's the original. I'm genuinely curious, I see this reposted all the time. I tried reverse image search all I got was something in spanish

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>everyone ITT:

>>2813880
Filipinas get pumped and dumped anf cheated on every day. My gf's friend just got pregnant by her bf she caught cheating twice

>>2817369
Approximately the same dropoff time for Philippines online dating too

>>2820209
That’s almost all women everywhere. Some women are just more explicit about the transactional nature.

>>2820447
this sounds like a roastie or browncel cope
all women care about security including financial security, but only small part of women prioritize money above everything else (golddiggers)
in Asia women and their parents appreciate stability, education, intelligence
you don't need to be rich or even average by western standards

>>2820201
>>2820203
I just wanted to disprove the claim that Bangkok is toast. And the matches are real, at least the ones i have been talking with.
>>2820234
My answer is in the post - gold diggers are exploitative, marrying for money is, as a rule, not.

>>2820466
>in Asia women and their parents appreciate stability, education, intelligence
And these things often lead to higher income.

>>2820474
Cope.
Marrying for money IS exploitative (although the exploitation usually goes both ways).

>>2820475
Yeah, those are pretty much euphemisms for being wealthy.

>>2820531
Bein stable, educated and intelligent means you have more money that some dumbfuck barely capable of driving a jeepney.

Who could have guessed anon ???

>>2820466
I have been all over. It's all about money in some form for, again, ALMOST all women. There are exceptions and we call those catches, but we also call certain hands in Poker a royal flush. Doesn't mean it's reasonable to think those odds will play out for you. It's beautiful if they do, but it's not playing the odds.

This is how it works in my experience. In the U.S. and the U.K., there's a "civilized" way of living where it's taboo to call attention to the transactional nature of relationships. This is aggravating to deal with because the transactional nature is still very much there and it feels disingenuous to pretend otherwise. They're like restaurants that don't put the price of anything on the menu.

In Asia, the transactional nature of relationships is taken for granted, but it's overlaid with a civilized layer where the parents typically make sure their daughter isn't TOO much of a prostitute. You basically get a credit check run on you and if you pass, you get greenlit. In Latin America, it's a free for all. You have prostitutes all over, but even girls that aren't prostitutes all seem to behave sort of like prostitutes.

>>2813573
>I'm looking for a decent looking woman who isn't a whore that I can hopefully form a meaningful relationship with
Its not possible to have a meaningful girlfriend relationship if you are traveling short term.
You have to settle down in the area for at least 6 months.
Its actually easier to let them come to you if you are genuinely looking for a relationship - for example move to the american city that has tons of foreign exchange students that you like.

>>2813557
>Everything here is too hollow and materialistic.
Naw, you just live in an urban shithole where everything and everyone is fake and superficial. Spend some time travelling around to smaller towns in the US.

>>2820798
>You have to settle down in the area for at least 6 months.
you don't need to be in the same place or even in the same country continuously for 6 months, spending significant time is necessary, but you can take breaks

>Its actually easier to let them come to you if you are genuinely looking for a relationship - for example move to the american city that has tons of foreign exchange students that you like.
that's a horrible advice, market dynamics will be totally different compared to a third world country

>>2813557
Could've just asked "How do I become a passport bro?"... instead of writing all that you wrote.

good grief this thread is fucking pitiful

>>2820311
I unironically want to be this chad. travel country to country. find fit girls to sleep with. memories that will last a lifetime. various STDs to last a lifetime as well. I would do this for 10 years and settle down with a third world cutie once I'm too old to get poon off my looks and all the money is gone. settling in the country with the best food and the best woman to take care of me until I'm dead. let me guess, you need more?

>>2821681
Imagine being this obsessed with sex

>faggots posting thailand

>>2821559
There's context and nuance to be had. Passport bros and I don't have over completely overlapping perspectives

>>2821681
>>2821681
>I would do this for 10 years and settle down with a third world cutie once I'm too old to get poon off my looks and all the money is gone

i am 30 so already too old to start doing that... And in my 20s i was too poor and ugly to travel the world. Now hairs getting gray on top of balding, lanklet at most and no easy way to get decently jacked. Mind also stopped developing... Its absolutely over...

>>2822423
Shit ass mindset is what is keeping you a loser

>>2821857
as the old joke goes it's like air. you don't really think that much about it unless you're not getting any
and man some of the people on here must be absolutely suffocating most of the time

>>2822425
explain... What would you do in my place as 30 years old poorfag with useless but fully remote work, no friends and no connections and 45k$ of savings? I already was in thailand for a months and there was just 1 bargirl and 1 fat massage girl who took interest in me, despite walking all over Bangkok every day. This bargirl - we still keep contact from time to time, maybe because i paid her 5000 baht for ST so she has detected insecure, easily manipulable loser...

>>2822427
You're absolutely killing it for most of the world but like I said, your mindset is garbage.
>Tall
>White
>American
>DN
>$45k
You mog the shit out of 90% of the male world but you walk around staring at your feet. Fix your posture, smile and go to Indonesia (not Bali) and talk to women. DN out there.
Bargirls are absolutely toxic. Don't go near them. Broken humans who will shatter your life and mental health. Don't use these cancers as a metric of your value. Mindset again.
Dafuq are you doing in the US as a FN if you have nothing to keep you there for anyway.

>>2822429
i am not american, i just translated my savings to dollars... I am central european slav - so no looks of mediterrean chad and no looks of scandinavian chad, at borders i am being stopped because with beard i resemble chechyeni or afghan terrorist... And no status of being american and therefore targeted by hot women for visa status. Generally i got dealt worst cards as male genetically and financially and you would think our women are whores and it's totally simple to fuck here... Well maybe for black or hindu brothers but not for their slavbros for sure. While yesterday i contacted like 5 or 6 whores (for PAYING) and they all ignored me, even whores here want nothing to do with me.
I am just 180cm tall which is standard here, lot of young femoids are as tall as me.
I thought about DN and maybe i will be forced to do it because of spectre of incoming war in this region... I just dont think my kind of work (sometimes complicated software) is so great to do while hunched over laptop in some noisy cafeteria... Its both useless and not braindead enough, i am just fucking slave now with GenAI advancements forcing me to do work of 10 people (10 people did the same works just 3 years ago) . While all comfy graphic design/copywriting/whatever else bulshit DN jobs is probably outsourced or can be done with AI - so its worth literal pennies...

>>2822432
Indonesian women think Pakistanis and Indians are hot. I saw some real QTs in Jakarta with generic, short Indian men. Pretty sure your low confidence is apparent in how you comport yourself. There's also Africa. Kenya is absolutely insane and Indians get mad pussy there. If you're just going to places absolutely ran through by NPC tourists you're not maxxing your European advantage, regardless of slav. Go where tourists don't go and get on tinder. Be the only non-brown in the city.

>>2813557
This is what Christopher Blowlumbus saw.

>>2822423
you have 50-60 year olds making a move to the Philippines with a literal harem of 18-19 year olds in their BGC/cebu condo. It can be done there is hope for you to find a wife.

>>2822504
>>2822434
>>2822432
>>2822429
>>2822161

Such tiny white dicked incel losers, fucking failing at life and trying to travel to get some slight attention,lol you crackers are pathethic man, fucking shrimp dicked timmies.

Im mexican and score white girls all the time, i know your upset at that. gringo cucks but keep whining i knnow you losers go on pol/ too and post racist shit due to your tiny white dicks.

Charlie kirk, and Raja Jackson is you future

lol tiny white dicked cum skin piggies have to cope halfway across the world while black men literally take your fucking white girls and cuckold you shrimp dicked losers lol even.

Even my mexican ass gets white girl pussy.

>>2822579
>>2822580
Wow. You sure don't seem insecure about not being white :/

>>2822596
Now because i know white women love big black dicks. it's a sterotype for reason, and white "men" lost, their not cool, whiny, cucks, not sports stars, irrelevent in music.

You fled for island spic chinks like so many on 4chan travel. we stole your women in your country. and best yet we cuckold tiny white dicks.

>>2822631
Why you keep talking about dicks bro?

>>2822631
You didn't get the sarcasm. Must be that world-renowned Mexican high IQ

>>2813782
>>2813787
Sweet hell.
OP, stop your bitching, moaning, and lamentations of a miserable world. I‘m not that other anon and I find you to be just as much as a sad sack.
You mentioned between the digital tears that you like martial arts. Very good. You can find a solid martial arts gym (Muay Thai, Kickboxing, etc) in any major European or SEA city.
What do you actually like? What are your skills and work history? Do you have interests in particular cultures, languages, or other activities? Do you want to do a master? What do you want from this world and what do you want to/can you give back to it?

I‘m an American settled in Europe with a Yuro Wife and our mutt American Yuro kids.

Also, take some vitamin D. You’re depressed and living in Seattle for fucks sake.

>>2822695
There's a lot anons on /trv/ paralyzed with indecision and cowardice. They want to whine about all the ways in which they can't change their life, and they want you to coo and tell them 'it's ok sweet baby'. Fuck these faggots. We are white and we have premium passports. We have unlimited agency. We can create masterpieces of our lives, the wildest and boldest and strangest all over the world. Not wasting my energy on the perma broken energy vampires.

>>2813648
>Otherwise you need to be a normal self-adjusted person to get into a relationship
Yep! I'm so fucked.
Tranny prostitutes forever for me.