I'm scared ever since I learned they are allowed to do that and if you deny it you get refused entry. I have a lot of loli porn which isn't illegal in my country but apparently in the EU they treat it the same as the real deal.
I've never been stopped. But I'm absolutely uninstalling Facebook messenger and Instagram before I go through customs in the UK. They're really cracking down on free speech. I'm not trying to get jammed up because I posted a meme.
I've had my electronics searched a few times by various countries. FWIW after the first few times I realized that they are 99% of the time they are specifically looking for how you react, your body language, and willingness to just power on the device to prove it's not a trojan horse carrying something. They just want to validate it powers on and is real.Korea they just will often ask me if my laptop or phone got repairs, ask me to turn it on, login, and show them it can browse the internet. China was more or less the same.Singapore basically was wondering why I had 2 phones, just told them I found that the one I brought was incompatible for travel and it only works in America I guess. Which they just wanted me to unlock it and show it was a real iphone 5c.> I have a lot of loli porn which isn't illegal in my country but apparently in the EU they treat it the same as the real deal.Unless you have your background set to some stupid shit with literal MY LITTLE SISTER IS ACTUALLY A 9000 YEAR OLD SLUTTY WIZARD?!?!! folder on the desktop and explain your point of travel is to anime events; all while being nervous and unwilling to unlock your device. You should be fine. I have tons of anime shit on my PC to kill the time, I just don't store it in the normal MyPics/Downloads/Desktop/etc.If you're from the US you can unironically go get a shitty Motorola for like 50-60 bucks and just have that as your "main" phone. Set it up with basic bitch shit the week before travel and use it as a burner. It's generally a good idea to have 2 phones anyways if one fucks up or breaks you aren't completely SoL.
the only time anything remotely similar to this has happened to me was way back in the day when i travelled to belfast and i was asked to switch my laptop on to prove that i wasn't one of those jolly irish types who likes to leave unpleasant surprises in the bins in tourist areas>before I go through customs in the UKinternet scaremongering. in the uk nobody has a right to search your phone unless you give them a reason to suspect you of something. like you make a stupid joke about having a bomb or somethingthe main country where it is legal for border control to search without a warrant or individual suspicion is the usa. maybe north korea or iran too
I always take those stories with a grain of salt. I've never heard of anyone having their phone searched by customs anywhere in my entire life.
>>2816578I'm going through Amsterdam and China before I land in Japan. I know it's silly to worry, but just the possibility of it happening is pretty damn scary. Refuse the search and you get sent back, comply and you go to jail. There's no winning if you get caught. But my loli folder took years to build up. I can't just delete it all.
>>2816581>Refuse the search and you get sent backsweet jesus dude you need to get some information from sources other than 4chan and facebookthis is what happens when you spend your life wanking to pictures of cartoon children
just delete it. don't be a dumbass
>>2816580my friends had their phones searched when trying to cross a land border into Russia last year
SBU officers searched my phone about 4 hours.
>>2815931I have a computer that will boot to bios and just hang there. I hope that's not going yo be a problem with China. Which port of entry were you at when they asked you to turn it on? Or are you talking about TSA asking you to turn it on when you were leaving America? If the latter then you're dumb.
>>2817018>I have a computer that will boot to bios and just hang there.Why you traveling with a PC that doesn't work.>Which port of entry were you at when they asked you to turn it on?It's random you retard, any port any country can ask you to turn on your electronic to ensure it's what it appears to be.Read the post lmao. It explains it perfectly there.Protip: most the world isn't a hell hole muslim antiporn dystopiaThat one guy who got caught had a big loli tiddy mouse pad he was trying to bring onboard his carry-on, which got flagged by the X-ray as something they weren't sure what it was, they found a bunch of other anime crap there, asked for his phone he said no, they took the paddy wagon on his ass to make him submit. Again, this is the UK we are talking about where you can fly a Palestine flag but not the countries flag in public.>but america TSAthose are all mall cop level people looking for serious shit, I guarantee you 4 outta 5 of those fuckers are jacking it in the search room on break to some hentai and do not give a FUCK about shit you downloaded so long as it isn't real people, drugs, or shit that could harm others.The only reason these things get blasted on the news so much is because it's 10000% more effective to deter retards from doing dumb shit, than Paul Blart CBP at the gate who's trying to keep the line moving.
>>2817029are you a retard? I said it boots to bios. Just because the disk doesn't automatically load to windows doesn't mean it is a nonworking computer. Im not decrypting my shit and giving the birder fags access to my ssh keys. Besides you are a different tard than the original person who had their shit searched in China which is evidenced by the fact that you refused to specify a specific port.
>>2817059>are you a retard?Are you?Anon the people looking for if your PC works or not aren't technical, they deal with all kinds of shit for all they know your company has a secure boot process. Do you think they are tech literate enough to go LOL WTF UHHH BITLOCKER SCREEN? UH OH SOMEONE HIDING SOMETHING!!!! or WTF ADMIN PASSWORD TO BOOT LOL SOMEONE TELL REDDIT! No they don't give a shit you severely overestimate what is being said here. They care that you can verify it's a PC and not an empty case that flashes an image up and is a dummy device with drugs where the battery should be. You seriously need to touch grass and realize what people said isn't what you would sperg post about on /g/. >Besides you are a different tard than the original person who had their shit searched in China which is evidenced by the fact that you refused to specify a specific port.No I am the samefag. It can happen any port, any city, any customs agent. There are random searches and checks. In ICN I've been stopped randomly to turn my PC on at the check-in desk and the next time nothing. They don't advertise 'hey so uhh beijing only we search devices' it's random for a reason to keep people guessing. Sure some incoming flights may be searched more if say from the middle east or colombia, but it's always a dice roll. 9 times out of 10 no electronics are even looked at.
>>2815809I don't remember if it's country-by-country or EU wide but police and customs can't search your phone without a warrant or court order of sorts. Only cases I've heard of where this happened were in Russia and China.Either way, I'd recomment travelling with a burner phone in all cases unless you're on business and need all your data and contact at hand. Not even because of searches but that way if you get your shit stolen, you lost a burner worth a hundred bucks and not your main phone with all your stuff in it.
>>2815809They will have videos of your gooning seesh.
>>2817059They don't care as long as you can proof it's a laptop that functions like a laptop is the main take away.The port doesn't matter because all airports, train stations, seaports, an agent can stop you and ask you to prove your electronics are real.The searches are performed at the whim of whatever side of the bed the agent woke up on that morning. Though if you look like a nervous neddy you're probably more likely to grab someones attention.You will most likely never experience an electronics search unless you fly regularly and increase your odds to get it.If they searched everyone's electronics, no airport could function because it takes too long.The original post you replied to explained it perfectly; they are looking for how you act in regard to your electronics being looked at. From there they assess your responses and often can tell if you're a drug mule or not.Warrants aren't needed because you condoned/agreed to be searched when booking your ticket and voluntarily walked into the airport security. Airport security also operates slightly different as "private security" first then they turn things over to law enforcement. It's a good way to cut through the "unlawful searches" thing most countries have, a private security guard did it first not the police.The whole "UK citizen arrested for anime porn" is put on display around news agencies recently is because it's the most effective tactic for deterring would be morons from getting on the plane with contraband. It's simple and easy to get the would be smugglers a jolt in their pants to remind them that the security checks are actually doing their jobs. You have better odds winning the lottery than thinking the below average pay security guard will give a rats ass about anime torrents, video games you "borrowed", or movies you "got from a friend". They are looking for things that could bring down the plane, drugs, gold, plant seeds, and so on. They don't care about your stupid cartoons.
>>2817063>I'd recomment travelling with a burner phone in all cases unless you're on business and need all your data and contact at hand.This is the correct answer, you can pick one up off amazon for 40 bucks. If nothing else it's a good backup device for 2fa codes, email, or banking apps if your main phone breaks or dies. Install just the basics you would need on it to get back home and have it look like you use it, then have the other in your bag or whatever.Oh want to see my shitty phone agent? sure here you go.
>>2817060OK so this sperg finally admitted the truth which was that he was asked to show that his device turned on AT CHECK IN not even at security check and definitely not at customs. That means if he refused literally the worst thing that would happen to his anus is that he would miss his flight or couldn't bring his computer on the flight. What a tard.
>>2817063I'm pretty sure they actually do it in USA. Seems like the only places it happens regularly is Russia, USA, and UK, in approximately that order.
>>2817070>Oh want to see my shitty phone agent? sure here you go.>40gb of mlp pornIs mlp porn considered bestially?
>>2817080Anon it's different each airportXMN, at security I had to turn on my laptop after going through the xrayICN, Someone at the desk during my ticketing someone asked if I had repairs done to any devices while I was there and wanted to check my laptopSIN, They wanted to know why I had 2 phones had to power them both on so they could look at the sim statusHEL, Had to explain why I had a tablet and laptop and they wanted me to unlock itSEATAC, once they just wanted me to unlock my phone after coming back form beijing at customs and they just looked at my email for a second and gave i backNRT, was stopped right at boarding the plane and someone wanted to inspect my laptop for stuff powered it on and gave it back to methose are the ones I can recall off the top of my head. Been traveling for nearly 15 years around the planet.>That means if he refused literally the worst thing that would happen to his anus is that he would miss his flight or couldn't bring his computer on the flightI've had numerous various times where I have been stopped along the way hell I am probably forgetting some because it's such a nothing burger after all this time.The entire reason I said it doesn't matter is because at any point from walking into the airport grounds to on the plane they can stop and ask to see your shit. If you think they just have one spot and check moment, you're horribly mistaken and must not travel all that much. No the worst that can happen is they detain you at some point for whatever they find it just is a dice roll of when and where it happens, assuming you have no-no shit on it. This is why I made a broad statement because I knew you were thinking on a micro scale in the airport.
what anons thing with electronic checks>Okay we know anon has been browsing the chans and iknowwhatyoudownload shows some serious fucked up anime>let's nab him at the airport!>freeze scumbag! We got you now!>damn he's got a truecrypt drive and a boot administrator password... we can't crack this guy he must have some serious shit>don't worry Jenkins we have CVE-9001 exploit backdoor to pop it>okay I'm in looks like he's been watching Tu Luv Ru a bunch... sick bastard is into the black haired chick...>sick bastard she was 17! 11 months 29 days and 23hrs and 59.99999 seconds in that show>Alright dirtbag you're going to prison for a long time say hello to bubba as you're his new onaholewhat really happens>Hey bill, management says do random checks, quota is 30 today, for people boarding X flight>k>sir excuse me sir can you power on your laptop>can you login to prove it's yous?>did you have any repairs while visiting to this device or let anyone else use this machine?>*looks for any red flags*>did anyone give you this or is this yours from home?>okay thanks>welp time to find some other people to check out
twice and it's because i went to china and bought a bunch of blackberry keyboards for autistic RasPi shit. aussie customs thought i was up to something proper degenerate because they went over my shit with a fine-tooth comb. the other time got searched cus i pulled up to sydney in the peak of summer wearing a heavy parka, which led to sweating and looking like a complete freak at customs. just came from hokkaido, they searched my phone, laptop, and looked through all my shit. i bought a bunch of weebshit and couldn't pack the parka kek.
>>2817080They can check you wherever in the airport anon, have you never flown?
ya'll skizos are responsible for why my computer and phone are both fucking linux dualboots. Unencrypted normie OS by default and 30 character password if you press some buttons/keys during startup.Fuck you, and fuck the government
>>2817070>>2817063>>2815931Do you guys really not take pictures? Of course I'm taking my phone with a good camera on this once or twice in a lifetime trip
>>2817170You know you can pack.... 2 phones, right? I travel with 2 phones simply due to the fact I was once abroad, had my main phone break on me and ending up locked out of my bank and other 2fa shit.I leave my banking stuff on an older iphone back in my room that also has all my travel apps and shit I would need to get back home, then have an out and about phone. What the other anons are talking about is for the never traveled schizo's here that think CBP is inspecting everyones phone for porn looking to arrest them.
>>2817173>2 phonesWhat do you usually do for sim cards?
>>2815809>apparently in the EU they treat it the same as the real deal.People openly save loli porn here. Thing is, most loli porn doesn't look like literal children. Unless you're a literal pedophile getting off to drawn pictures of children, you're fine.
What if you just put it in your suitcase?
>>2817197esim for my iphone since it has it, then all my calls/texts go to in and since it does WiFi calling I'm not charged too muchgoogle fi gives a free data sim to your plan for the other device or I just download an esim after 90 days abroad.Decent for 20/mo>>2817207You can't put batteries in luggage or they yell at you when you're at the gate and sometimes charge you a fee
>>2817215I mean the suitcase you check in. Not carry on.
>>2817216yes anon... you can't put batteries in checked luggage, they actively ask and warn you about doing so at the counter. If they find batteries in there they will often call you to the gate and tell you that they can't check your luggage in the bay due to it. Airlines have been getting pretty strict about it recently.Holy fuck do people actually travel on this board?
>>2817217I haven't flown in years but that's changing this winter. How do I carry my spare batteries?
>>2817220On your person, you have to take it with you in the cabin. Anything litium or battery related has to go through security
>>2815809Why do you losers save porn on your phone. That's what tablets are for, late night Youtube watching and jacking off
>>2817217Calm down moron.
>>2817225Rate my carry on battery carrying rig.
>>2817227If I'm jacking off and I see an image on Pixiv that I like, I save it to either:-crop it to share with anons-use as reference for drawing-save it just because I fuck with the art style or something
>>2817170I do.With my camera.That has an empty card when I pack my bags before flying.
>>2816580The retard that got searched at customs for anime porn had some shit in his bad that threw the scanner off and was some fat titty anime girl or something followed by a bunch of other porn that should have been in checked baggage. For those that don't know checked bags are treated as postage and have xrays and scanners that are looking for very specific things. Rarely opened like carry on stuff is done.
In China and Kazakhstan they made me power my laptop on, probably as the other anons say to prove it's actually a laptop, but they never searched the contents
>>2818822Most of the stuff I search says that phone searches are extremely uncommon in Europe and Japan, but not in China. Still uncommon, but like a 5% chance sort of thing.
>>2815809I’ve never had my electronics actively searched or examined in detail anywhere at all, in any of the ~70 countries I’ve visited. This includes China, Japan, and a couple of places in the Middle East (UAE and Saudi Arabia), where I was expecting some more intensive luggage scrutiny to look for locally forbidden items that are legal elsewhere, but I have experienced nothing unusually invasive so far.I have been asked to power on my laptop at least a couple of times, just to prove it’s not a shell stuffed with contraband and/or an IED, but not in years, and I honestly don’t remember where… once was in the USA on an outbound flight, I think, the others escape me.I just flew back into the US for the first time in a couple of years, after spending more than six years living abroad (I’m a US-born dual national, recently repatriated), and I was half expecting immigration to ask to see my messaging apps, but I didn’t see it happening to anybody.
>>2818930They have no reason to suspect someone from the US would be smuggling something. It's all about risk
>>2818930>I was half expecting immigration to ask to see my messaging appsCan they really go through your messages like that?
>>2818934>They have no reason to suspect someone from the US would be smuggling something. It's all about riskDumb Americans get busted for smuggling all kinds of things in countries all over the world, including on their return flights home from abroad. But I am willing to bet that the fact that I’m a US citizen with typically uncomplicated/noncontroversial itineraries, and almost never fly anywhere on one-way tickets, doesn’t raise any particular red flags most of the time.>>2818938It is theoretically possible for immigration authorities in the US and other countries to ask you to unlock your phone, and when you do, they may look at your messages. There are scattered reports of people getting refused entry for stuff found on their phones (some Norwegian guy supposedly got dinged for having a stupid anti-U.S.-administration meme on his lock screen just recently, and foreign student visas are definitely more constrained and much more likely to be suddenly cancelled than they were a year ago), but I don’t know how widespread it actually is. I didn’t see it happening to anyone on my most recent Murka-bound flight, but it is at least a theoretical possibility with at least an arguably legal precedent.
daily reminder that you can refuse to decrypt and just get sent back to your point of origin instead I'd being the retard who got 30 years.
Do airports flag you more if you have a same day return flight?I’m flying out for some quick business in Europe (from England) and I’ll be back the same day, I want ti bring a few things back to make it worthwhile but don’t want to get searched, will they look at my departure and arrival and want to search me more or will they not give a shit?
Anyone know if hong kong searches?
>>2818989>>2818986Anon, ALL airports can and will search depending on what they are told to do. It's basically random and up to some algorithm or just Joe in the office going "yeah look for these people".I love that Anons think there is some hard logic and set in stone checkpoint to this that they can just ask and get a solid answer, you realize if there was one drug and human traffickers would have been using that method for decades, right? It's random for that reason to keep everyone on their toes. You may travel all year never get asked to power on a single electronic, you may travel once a year and get asked to prove your electronics are real, it's literally as predictable as the lotto.Are there things that can increase your likelihood of being searched? Absolutely? Some off the top of my head are>coming from an ultra short stay in a well known drugs country (colombia or something)>trying to stay in a country an ultra-long time near visa limit>frequent revisits to X country from Y country>looking like you're about to go durka durka snackbar on peopleThey are making sure it's a real device and not a case to smuggle dope or whatever, and might open your phone to look for recent calls to any flagged number at worst. Maybe don't have your electronics set to tachibana nozomi when going through customs to give the 40 year old Karen a reason to search. 99.9999% of the time they are looking for drugs, gold, things that could harm the ecosystem or passangers; they don't give a fuck about your cartoons or downloaded movies/games being in some random hidden folder.
>>2818942>(some Norwegian guy supposedly got dinged for having a stupid anti-U.S.-administration meme on his lock screen just recently, and foreign student visas are definitely more constrained and much more likely to be suddenly cancelled than they were a year agoThis was because his ESTA was invalid when he landedHe misfiled his paperwork and was sent back to him as denied he didn't bother to check if it was approved or notHe admitted to doing drugs while in the USA onceHe lied about where his parents lived and his plansHis visa wasn't correct eitherHe said it was because JD Vance meme for sympathy points and it blew up in his face.>>2818934I'm US and yes they care, it's completely random if not somewhat increased due to west coast states all going LMAO WEED DUDE as many dude bros out there legitimately think if they buy it legally in CA they can transport it fuck all they want "like bro it's just a little weed!". Maybe it's just me but flying from LAX or Amsterdam landing anywhere waiting for my bags, I always notice the drug sniffing dogs more than flying from anywhere else.
>>2819053>goldWhat, you're not allowed to carry gold?
>>2819065You generally have to declare shit like gold/gold bullion depending on the country but a lot often way gold specifically declared; people smuggle it to avoid further inspection.
I feel old reading this thread... Can someone explain to me what fucking retarded shit you people keep on your phones or computers that would warrant you to shit your pants in fear if glanced at? You think they give a care about some pokemon porn you have in some random folder on your phone or laptop? Hell no, if you've ever had the 'joy' of staying around Chinese I can tell you they have little shame in what porn they have.What mental gymnastics am I missing if I'm not simply boomer brained.
>>2819099In Europe, depictions of minors, even full on fictional pedophilia (aka lolis that don't even resemble real children) fall under the law as child pornography. They are super puritans and you can get 3-5 years in jail if they catch you with it. In China apparently they are more lenient, a slap on the wrist and such, unless you got pseudo-pedophilia (drawn depictions of real children), then it is GG in most countries.
>>2819099Despite being a boring and law-abiding individual I value privacy and don't like people rifling though my shit. If you don't value privacy I assume you're something less than sentient.
>>2819065>>2819068in most countries you are allowed to carry a certain amount of gold bullion without declaring it. it is usually $10,000US or similar. given the price of gold now, that is under three ounces, which is not very mucheven if you are carrying less than that, if the scanner picks it up you will possibly have to show it to them, as gold is opaque to x-rays and it is conceivable that you could use it to conceal something else.enforcement is not consistent. i have carried some tiny 1g gold "bars" i bought as a souvenir from a vending machine and got questioned about them, but i have also carried a stack of sovereigns and passed through unchecked.
>>2819065Some places may have specific regulations for it.In China, you're now taxed if you try to enter with gold because a bunch of people were buying jewelry and watches to hide wealth and convert it into easily liquidated assets ESPECIALLY if you can drop by in Hong Kong where the most active secondary dealers in the world are.
>>2819182I value privacy as much as the next person, I see it as a right. However, I am doing something that is far from a normal activity of traveling through a private airport and into another society and country that's obviously going to need to take security of their citizens first. >>2819144I get that but still, how obvious are you with putting porn on your phone? Like seriously, do people think they have time to do anything more than flip through a few camera photos, calls/sms, and ensure some app like email launches? If they had to do more than that on a regular basis all airports would be days of waiting.
One thing about TSA/Customs in the USA is they aren't actual law enforcement, people might not know that. They are employees of the federal branch or airport but have no real power to arrest or enforce laws. That's why you see federal agents and police standing around doing nothing. TSA/Customs will call over the enforcement and then let them handle it after they deem something to be not right or suspicious. It's different in other countries but the US separates them out due to various reasons, mainly because how many small airports we have.That said, this basically means unless you have something absolutely red flag 'holy shit why did you think bringing that was a good idea to bring here' the mall cop level of pay retarded mouth breather isn't going to do shit most the time.
>>2815809Every time I return from Thailand of the Philippines they take my iPad, MacBook, and iPhone and search all of my devices for an “extended safety check” which requires me to give them my password under threat of denying my re-entry. Of course I comply. Because I am not stupid enough to leave anything incriminating on any of my devices.
>>2819445do they search your butt to see if there are any other made up stories up there?
>>2819447It is 100% true.
>>2816581If you can't delete it (addict behaviour btw) then put it on a different device or USB which you leave at home, then put it back on your phone when you return.
>>2819441>Like seriously, do people think they have time to do anything more than flip through a few camera photos, calls/sms, and ensure some app like email launches? If they had to do more than that on a regular basis all airports would be days of waitingNTA but I read a story where someone was basically detained and forced to unlock his devices so they could copy the drives to go through later, a measure they apparently only use sometimes for cases that fit the 'suspicious' profile of single men returning from SEA. Like how if your name is Muhammad and you have a beard, the random bomb chemical sweep will include you.
>>2819653This is not only used "sometimes", it's used very often, they just clone your devices.
>travel with a burner phone and crap laptop in your carry-on bags>if you REALLY need your porn while travelling, keep it in an external drive in your checked-in luggageIt's really not that complicated.
