What is it about traveling in the America-sphere (Canada, US, Mexico) that's so fucking soulless and depressing? Just looking at a piece of land in the USA depresses me. It has this dead, empty, cold vibe. There's something evil about it.NYC is the *only* pocket in the Americas that feels like it has some semblence of soul. But you can also feel that like getting sucked out post covid too. (No, mexican shitholes including cdmx do NOT have any soul. They are poisoned with the america evil energy.)
>>2819101>NYC is the *only* pocket in the Americas that feels like it has some semblence of soul.Anon at least try with your b8 next time, this wasn't even that good to begin with, but you screwed the pooch right there.
>>2819102OP is onto something he just staked out too extreme a position. Mexico and Canada are true zero soul location, the USA is definitely more a mixed bag though proportionally its at least 5:1 soulless:soulful.
>>2819112Nah, the whole "no SOUL!!!" meme is just poorfags who doomscroll on their phones and can't reach meaningful locations due to lack of understanding basic transportation methods. Every stupid fuck like OP is trolling to be as often never has a car or license to drive to places with a personality and when abroad if a train doesn't go there their brains 404.Above all else, these people wanting 'muh soul' are people with no personality or social skills to engage in the situation expecting the SOVL!!! to be shoved down their throats mimicing the shit some influencer had it. Finding places that resonate with you is easy for anyone with the ability to operate a car and isn't a poorfag larping as a richfag.
>>2819101>There's something evil about it.it is an evil country
>>2819112Where do you find the US has soul? Thank you for also acknowledging that even le spicy meme Mexico is a soulless heap.>>2819121I don't understand the connection. Driving usually brings me to soulless shitholes.>>2819124perhaps
>>2819121Most of the cities are terrible. I think you can count the soulful large US cities on one hand. There’s a bit more medium and especially small city gems, but overall if you were to look at the populated part of the country its largely soulless.Rural areas aren’t much better. The middle third of the country is a giant corn/basedbean/wheat field. Economically a boon, but (with a few notable exceptions) not very soulful and actually quite dismal if you’re not a landowner.The wilderness areas are amazing and obviously the envy of the rest of the world.>>2819124Yes it’s distinctly demonic. Most Americans, particularly the recent arrivals but also a lot of people who are generational Americans, are transparently evil and selfish. The society is rotten in most ways.Still it’s got some redeeming spots and in a country 350,000,000 there’s still more good people here than any other country has.
>>2819101>muh soul
>>2819101Because they don't like China
The entire continent has negative energy because it is haunted by the ghosts of Native Americans
>>2819141>The wilderness areas are amazing and obviously the envy of the rest of the world.Even that is too generous. Even the nature has this soul-sucked deadness about it. Appalachia is particularly hollow and empty. The southwest is a little cool though, and so is the PNW (which ironically has the most soulless people)>>2819147nonwhite who can't grok abstract human feelings.
>>2819195>AppalachiaIt has that serial killer vibe
>>2819195You’re out of your mind. even in the wildnerness in less striking areas like Wisconsin or Louisiana is distinctly beautiful, lush and warm. You lose some of the scale because we’ve bulldozed it to shove a hundred and fifty or so million brown migrants, but America is like the garden of Eden in its unspoiled form. Read some accounts of what it was like for the white explorers, it blows your mind.you can still find that, you just have to get off the beaten trail. I doubt you have.But yeah the rest of your complaints are pretty valid. The country sucks. It’s plagued, a grotesque abomination, a cursed golem brought up in a demonic image and filled the brim with unscrupulous and ugly people.
>>2819101NYC is soulless America. A bunch of random mutts thrown together in a city, all devoted to serving the Almighty Dollar.You don't know shit about Mexico, either. You haven't even traveled Mexico, much less hung out on the plaza of a typical Mexican town on a Sunday or holiday.
Mexicans will lay down in the middle of the road to get their teachers a salary raise, kekThe police don't haul them off to jail, instead they put up a few cones and let them do their thing.
Carnival in the park in Hermosillo. Everyone out with their loved ones having fun.
>America is soullessThis is the view from my bedroom window in America. What do you see from your hotel room in so-called "sovlful" locations? A bunch of traffic and Third World cinderblock shit, kek. If anything, it's Pattaya that had that dead, empty, cold vibe. Everyone 100% fake and superficial. None of the boomer coomers will meet your eye.
Don’t know if I can agree OP I’m having a lovely time in Canada
>>2819141>more good people here than any other country has.Just one Indian state has more good people than this one
>>2819259US was nice as well
>amerijew soullets rushing to damage control the thread"PLEASE NO LOOK AT THIS PICTURE OF A SHITTY HILL AND TREES THERES NO WHERE ON EARTH LIKE IT ITS SOULFUL ITS SOULFUL ITS SOOOOOOOOUL"LMAO
>>2819274>unspoiled, untamed nature as far as the eye can see>coupled with excellent recreational infrastructure for road travelersThere really isn't anything like this outside North AmericaWhere's your travel pics of peak soul? An Indian slum market?
>>2819259Where is that?
>>2819350Just north of Eagle Plains
>>2819350>>2819358you guys have to go to the sandhills you would love it
>>2819101>What is it about traveling in the America-sphere (Canada, US, Mexico) that's so fucking soulless and depressingLawns without gardensroads without trees lining them Freemasonic temples everywhere
>>2819139>>2819141>Most of the cities are terrible>I don't understand the connection. Driving usually brings me to soulless shitholes.Have you ever considered you're just a boring person?My job pre-covid had me driving coast to coast all over the USA, never had issues enjoying the sunsets in places, meeting people in small roadside bars and taverns, spending weekends around some event with locals, enjoying some really nice scenery of hidden spots suggested to me, and some of the best food on the planet.Oh but I guess it's not HK at night so the SOVL is gone
>>2819220>. Read some accounts of what it was like for the white explorers, it blows your mind.any book recommendations for that?
>>2819241Dude that looks like shit. Like the mountains are nice I guess but LA has mountains.The building look like pure cattle slop wagies live in and drink budwiser after work talking about trucks and football. There probably isn't a good pub or brewery within hours of driving to sit down and talk with some females under 200 pounds and under 30. WTF would you do I'm surprised you even have internet unless it's starlink. wtf is there even to do there, I don't think you "get" what soul is. Like what meals do you even eat that isn't corn based slop that mid IQ neanderthals coomsoom? "Yeah ted got me a road kill steak! YEE HAW Let's eat and polish each others "guns" haha!">>2819239Looks like it has 1/5 soul levels but really seems too crowded, I can't even see like some EDM stage or whatever, if that's a carnival that looks lame dude.
>>2819101This is a very interesting topic. I have been once to Canada and once to the US, and while I wouldn't go so far as to say the energy was soulless or evil, I definitely felt different on the North American continent. It was like a weird semi-conscious thing; it was as if something had shifted and I felt deep down that I was somewhere far removed from home (Ireland). I felt some of that too when I was in Hong Kong, albeit a different sort of energy to North America. It felt less forbidding, somehow. Despite the fact that it's crowded and oppressively humid, the energy was a bit lighter. Something less ancient, cold and looming.I know this probably sounds like incoherent schizo nonsense, but does anyone else get this whenever they're in locations far removed from home? If so, I would be interested to hear what Europe in general and Ireland in particular feels like to you, if you've been here.
>>2819435Undaunted Courage by Stephen A Ambrose is a great place to start.
>>2819377>Lawns without gardens>roads without trees lining themThese two bother me way too much.
>>2819290>No place else on the planet has beautiful untamed nature except America LMAO MUTT EDUCATION. Mutts have lost the plot so hard. They know they can't defend their absolute garbage homeless ridden cities with their soulless nu-architecture so they have to pretend their mountains are more special than a mountain elsewhere LMAO
>>2819101>America sux>frog>>>/int/
>>2819432This, not being able to enjoy USA is a skill issue
>>2819101Cars.You either travel through a space designed for cars, and thus empty and soulless for a pedestrian, without ever leaving a few tourist traps between which you move, or you rent a car, and travel like an American. But even with freedom of movement, a space designed for cars will feel soulless.New York, is the only US city that is sort of walkable. But it's about as soulless as it gets by all other metrics.
>>2819469Curious to see what you consider good
>>2819682tiresome leftist talking point. Picrel is a road made for cars in Masuria, but note the simple act of planting oak trees on the sides - completely different experiencethese trees around the Wolf's Lair and Giżycko remember Hitler himself - there are many even more beautiful alleyways that you will have to visit the region itself to enjoy
>>2819469Thanks for revealing your ignorance about America. Gonna try and list all the cool shit my everyday American town of 5000 people has...>Several Main Street pubs, including two bicycle-centric pubs, a wine cellar, an indoor music venue with weekly cover-charge bands, a brewpub with banquet space, a ultra-luxury hotel/restaurant/ballroom facility, a rustic "dive" bar, a rooftop terrace bar - need I go on?>one of America's most famous whitewater rivers with numerous wave parks for river surfing (bet you never even heard of it)>America's second-highest paved mountain pass is 15 miles up the county road that runs past my place>a huge festival grounds within easy bicycling distance of town that recently hosted an acid festival headlining King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard for a crowd of 10,000 people>multiple 14,000' peaks with two long-distance trails running through (the Colorado Trail and the Continental Divide National Scenic Trail) - this in addition to countless other hiking trails leading to alpine lakes and rocky summits>half a dozen bakeries producing delicious breads, treats and other goodies from scratch>numerous restaurants, including everything from Thai food and sushi to bison burgers, fancy salads, steaks, amazing Italian food, steaks & ribs, and dozens of other menu offerings>two food truck courts, a traditional root beer stand, ice cream & dessert shops, hipster cafes>numerous artisan stores selling handmade local crafts, including enormous finely crafted items worth thousands of dollars>bookstores with hangout spaces, antique toy stores, a historic farmstead that serves as a traditional music venue on Thursday nights, free concerts in the town park every Friday>hiking trails starting at the end of Main Street and climbing as high as 1700' above the town to the peak of a nearby hill>3500 hours of sunshine a year (more than anywhere in Europe), brisk cool mornings even in the middle of July
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>>2819682Chicago and SF are extremely walkable.
>>2819709America has many regions where people LOVE their trees. The shoreline communities of Lake Michigan in the lower part of Michigan have some of the most beautiful forests I've seen anywhere (excuse the shitty phone camera).
>>2819718not bad but these trees do not look very impressive - thin trunks and rather unkempt. Oak trees historically have been sacred for Indo-European peoples, being associated with Zeus (Dodonian Zeus) by the Greeks and Perun among the Slavs, and they line northern European roads. I will admit in Grey County, Ontario some keep the faith and separate their farmer's fields from other plots and the road with trees, sometimes even oak. But go farther southwest to the farms north of Sarnia and London and you have hell on earth - not a tree to be found by the road, only gargantuan wind turbines picrel somewhere in Ireland possibly
lol chronically unhappy mopey op
>>2819241Do you live in an Amazon warehouse complex?
American has 330 million people, and yet all they can use to justify their shithole country is patches of undeveloped land where obese mutts have not ruined it yet. Says all you need to know.
>>2819101I would say a lot of soul in Oregon.Astoria has a lot of soul now that Hollywood is gone the old buildings are beautifully decayedGrants Pass has that tweaker drug addicted vibe that has soulPortland in any place that has zero weirdos or ANTIFA actually has more soul than anywhere save for Tokyo. Bend Oregon is amazingly beautiful and has a lot of charm. All y'all burned out Europeans go to Oregon man you'll be surprised I think.
>>2819474>This is a very interesting topic. I have been once to Canada and once to the US, and while I wouldn't go so far as to say the energy was soulless or evil, I definitely felt different on the North American continent. It was like a weird semi-conscious thing; it was as if something had shifted and I felt deep down that I was somewhere far removed from home (Ireland). I felt some of that too when I was in Hong Kong, albeit a different sort of energy to North America. It felt less forbidding, somehow. Despite the fact that it's crowded and oppressively humid, the energy was a bit lighter. Something less ancient, cold and looming.My nigga. You get it too. For me, it's this weird feeling of desperate exhaustion. The sameness of everything, the emptyness and uniformity, it just makes a feeling of exhaustion. I get this depressing feeling looking out at the vast valleys and mountains in the US, but I don't on other continents.
>>2819101lmao ur an NPC
>>2819474>This is a very interesting topic.It's not. This easily one of the most over discussed topics of past 250 years.>I felt deep down that I was somewhere far removed from home (Ireland)Oh you're a hick and a young Northwest European. Of course you're ignorant enough to not be bored to death by this.
>>2820067And Eugene is like a mix of all of the aboveEurope is still much nicer in most ways though
>>2819156kek @ indian blood crying out to God for vengeance
>>2820077Yes, I kind of know what you mean. It's as if humans weren't really meant to be on that continent, and it feels hostile as a result.>>2820104>This easily one of the most over discussed topics of past 250 years.Not as of late.>Oh you're a hick and a young Northwest European. Of course you're ignorant enough to not be bored to death by this.Northwestern Europeans are generally some of the best travelled people in the world. Don't be silly.
>>2820066Or a thriving town of 8000 peopleThe utter ignorance of posters here still astounds me. I bet you've never even traveled around America once.
There's thousands of lovely, great towns in North America. Beautiful landscaping, unique consoomer opportunities, world-class recreational spaces, and a general mood of upbeat prosperity.
>Mexico has no soulWhat does that even mean? I'll concede that due to the problem we have with drug dealers, a lot of places aren't accesible to international tourists now, ony for locals who know where to go and know what they are doing, which is a shame, really.
>>2819682Cars are awesome even in places with public transport, unless they're super dense places like New York. I'm going to rent one when I visit Europe next year. Why would I want to spend 5 hours getting to some place by public transit if I could drive there in 1.5 hours?
>>2819712Problem is the only single girls in Colorado are visitors.
Dozens of raft kids live in these old houses during the summer. License plates from all over the country. They dress like slobs, and the girls seem like casual sluts who swap boyfriends with each other all summer long.
>>2822255Breeding-age women all want to opportunity-maxx in the city. Once they turn 35, these roasties might choose a slower pace of life close to nature and settle down in a small town with their dogs. Her bodycount by that point is 50+...there's no way a simple, average small town man who makes half her salary would interest her in the slightest. Picrel is one of the food courts in my town.
>>2824012>Once they turn 35, these roasties might choose a slower pace of life close to nature and settle down in a small town with their dogs.Truefaxx. Many such cases
>>2819263Good morning saar.
>>2819101>What is it about traveling in the America-sphere (Canada, US, Mexico) that's so fucking soulless and depressing?all the women have lunchlady bodies with hall monitor energy
>>2819237>>2819238>>2819239Kys beaner
>>2819712Anon you live in Breckenridge, named in 2019 the third most expensive town in America. Don't pretend it's representative of the average American experience.
>>2828428Or Paonia. Salida. Gunnison. Eagle. Westcliffe.
>>2827739My "beaner" backyard. Yes, it's part of the historic Mexican Empire. On the Mexican side of the border.
Anglo/germanic culture, North Europeans especially are all anti-social and don't like human interaction. I find North Europe (UK, Sweden, Germany, etc) similarly soulless and boring desu.
>>2828474Visit Lithuania. People are kind there.
>>2828471>but muh asstec ancestors
Troll OP but I'll bite>Chicago>Milwaukee>BillingsWhere the fuck are you going that doesn't have any soul? Texas, Arizona, New Mexico?Even fucking Atlanta has soul bro. Even some suburban sprawl has soul when you think more about what it represents.Mexico is overrated, sure, but without soul, wtf are you talking about are you crazy? Air quality is shit in Mexico City, but nigga, you can see the soul from the airplane as you fly in.Canada has plenty of soul for naturefags.
>>2819101Evil country. Evil people. Built on top of mass graves of innocents, won through conquest of a hopelessly outclassed foe. Ruled by ZOG, worshipping homosexuality and nigger behavior, or a suicidal doomsday cult of evangelical Christians who want to bring about judgement day.Yes America is Evil. The great Satan.
>>2819101Mexico is a shithole, I can't imagine why anyone would travel there for any reason and its not part of the 'America sphere' except insofar as its a good example of why you should never leave America. As for the relative lack of soul, that's what happens to a people when you let 130 million blacks and browns in to rat-fuck everything so hard that people lose hope in the future. We had such high hopes for humanity just 75 years ago and now we just want things to end so we don't have to deal with browns anymore. That'll un-soul anybody.
>>2828428>Don't pretend its representative of the average American experienceNTA, but it is if you're white and you belong here, generally speaking. The methheads in Montana are a minority and its largely the minorities dragging our averages down. Whites largely still have it pretty good here, politics notwithstanding.
>>2820067Odd. Never lived in Oregon but have visited, didn't feel soul there as much as I do in Chicagoland.Seattle has a lot of soul, but it creeps me the fuck out. Spokane is also really creepy.This isn't really something you can pick up on just by visiting somewhere, but I'd be much more interested in entering someone's home in Chicagoland than I would be in the PNW. It's difficult to describe what I mean here... The only reason I don't live in Chicago is I don't have family there. I completely understand why someone would want to live there. Same with Anchorage. Seattle, I think I understand why people live there and it makes me uncomfortable. Portland just seems more like a generic very large town. Go to college, apply to jobs and internships all around the country, take the best job you can get, end up in Portland, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, Denver, Minneapolis, etc. Seattle and Chicago are more deliberate destinations, also like LA, NYC, DC, San Diego, San Francisco.
>>2830727I know this is 4chan, and the joking juvenile racism of 2008 has evolved into real racism, and arguing with morons on the internet is a futile pursuit.And I also know, call a pit bull a pit bull.But to boil all of society's problems down to, "black and brown bad" is peak retardation. /x/ sometimes talks about NPCs, and rabid racism is very NPC. You complain about blacks and browns now, but in a white ethnostate with the same economic and political conditions, you'd be just as pissed off, about something else.The people that are actually trying to make the world a better place are not being racist at midnight on 4chan, they're either asleep so they can wake up in the morning to work and raise their kids, or they're working overtime so they can support their kids.
>>2830746>making the world a better placeMost evil in the world is done by those who firmly believe they are doing the right thing.>>2830727In many ways I prefer societies which wear their flaws on their surface instead of hiding them beneath a facade of moralistic perfectionism.
Orange dots are stealth roadside campsitesYellow dots are hotels or hostelsYes, getting robbed is a very real concern when you stealth camp in the Mexican countryside. It's best to find your spot at dusk and practice complete light discipline after dark.
>>2828471Is this around Monterrey?
>>2819124indeed. it feels evilbecause it is evil
>>2819241the mountains are nice but the buildings make this depressing dude lol
>>2819101America is kinda depressing, but it has tons of soul. I've visited new york earlier this year expecting to be amazed by all the tall buildings, yet that became normal for me on the second day there. What really amazed me were the people. I remember being on wall street and some old guy in a suit, looked 80, walking there. I thought to myself what did someone with his age see living in this place for so long. I had issues checking into my hotel as there was a problem with my bank card, and I spoke with the dude in the reception. That was cool too. Some latino guy from Brooklyn. He told me how quickly the place was changing for both better and for worse. I went to a shop there and talked with some random ass zoomer kid who talked as if he was black. He had curly brunette hair and pale skin, yet ended every sentence with "ya feel me?". That was funny to see. In general America is nice to visit. It's kinda run down, but it has this weird charm. When I was a kid I remember watching the music video to Young Turks by Rod Stewart and that kinda was for me how I expected US to be. And it still has bit of that vibe. It is shady, every few streets you will find a crackhead screaming into the air, but you also find tons of unique weird stuff you wouldn't find anywhere else, and really nice people. Americans in general are really nice people. Especially I feel people from the south. I feel people there value family and friendships a lot. I hope to visit it few more times. I really want to see San Francisco, rural texas, Miami and Nevada.
>>2819101Places in the US that have soul and are worth going out of your way to visit (including surrounding areas):>NYC>Boston >Philadelphia>Gettysburg>Orlando>Atlanta>Chicago>Memphis>Nashville>New Orleans>Rapid City>Las Vegas>Santa Fe>Seattle>San Francisco>Los Angeles>Dallas>Hawaii>Alaska>Yellowstone This is where you want to go in the US if you live outside the country or on the other side. Everywhere else is only worth it if you already happen to live or be in the area for some reason.
>>2819101Good travel is a mix of value and novelty. America and Canada are expensive (low-value) and very samey (low-novelty). SEA is as boring as America and Canada, but it's very good value, so people like it more. Visiting the Vatican might cost more than America, but it has a lot more novelty.Highly disagree on Mexico being soulless though. It has both value and novelty. If you don't like Mexico, that's a you problem.>NYC is the *only* pocket in the Americas that feels like it has some semblence of soulI got baited.
>>2832037where are you from, fren?
>>2832067I'm a polak. Which maybe doesn't make it surprising that I liked US as the country was always kinda popular here.And yeah, I did visit the Polish neighborhood in Brooklyn. I kinda wonder what it used to be as apparently lot of the Polish population there moved out, but it wasn't difficult to find Polish signs or people speaking Polish. You can find authentic Polish food there too. A funny anecdote I have is that I entered a bar to see what kind of drinks they serve there. I came in and started looking for a sign with what they are selling, and the lady comes up to me and says "you all good?" all concerned. I said yes. I didn't really know what was up till an other day I walked into a small restaurant and I start ordering food and the guy at the counter had a confused look. After I ordered he asked me where I'm from. I said Poland and he was like "ah, I'm from Ukraine". I realized then that probably the depressed slav face kinda tells where I'm roughly from.
