EVERY single person I meet says Paris is an abject shithole. When I went there, it was during the bin strikes, and the whole place smelt of rotting fish.Why the fuck does it have such a reputation? It's overpriced, isn't French in any sense of the word, smelly, dangerous, and is mogged by every single other European city.I don't get it.The recent Kurt Caz video shows just how bad things are:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WBWtam27j8
Europe has always been a shithole. Extremely overrated because racist white people only consider "white countries" and not the much better countries in the middle east, south america or east asia.
My reaction was the same when I went to Bangkok. Man, this place is such a hideous, traffic-ridden dump. Why is it the most visited city in the world? NYC is also a smelly, overpriced shithole with dirty streets. There's only one conclusion to draw. All big cities are shitholes. I'm tired of cityfags pretending their shit doesn't stink.
>>2820321For a short while.
>>2820335The average cityfag is peak NPC; it's not surprising in the slightest that they love soulless holes.
>>2820321I was expecting bobbies with nightsticks to show up. Instead, French police are dress in camo and toting military-grade rifles. >b-but Europe is safe!The police don't carry rifles in safe countries.
>>2820348It's the actual military on the streets of Paris near the Eiffel Tower. It's called "Operation Sentinel">In 2021, the assigned force consisted of:>3,000 on permanent operational duty>4,000 on 12-hour or 72-hour alert>3,000 in strategic reserve.[8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op%C3%A9ration_Sentinelle
>>2820335I actually really liked Bangkok. Stayed in a beautiful area in Lumphini, massive park next to their skytrain for 15-20 CAD a night. Sorry you stayed in a backpacker ghettos filled with ladyboy prostitutes.
>>2820321France is saved, de Gaulle!
>>2820321>Was Paris Ever OK?There were two grace periods in the history of Paris.The Hausmannian rebuild helped clear up the old and dirty parts of town and policing was very active under the Second Empire. That's when Paris got its reputation of a beautiful city because at that time the rebuild was cutting edge in terms of planning, architecture, construction. After a while though, the poverty that was forced out of town creeped back in and slums appeared on the edges.A second good period was in the 60s when the damage from WW2 was generally repaired, the slums that existed immediately postwar were mostly dealt with and France was overall on a good economic swing. And that's when intercontinental tourism started so it was not that hard to sell it as an ideal destination.Anything before and after that was shit.Paris has been a dangerous, smelly shithole forever. It doesn't take long to find texts from the 1700s talking about how bad it is and how whomever wrote it wish they were back home no matter where that home is.The normal state of Paris is that of a terrible, dangerous place where you don't want to be but often have to live in. The only exceptions occur when someone rolls up his sleeves, razes the town and rebuilds it. You get a good ten years out of it and then it goes back to normal.
>>2820321Depends what you're into, your budget, and where you stay. If you go solo with $100 for 5 days and you stay in a shitty hostel in a bad part of town with a bunch of Indians, you'll probably have a bad time. Alternatively, pay for a skip the line pass for the Louvre. Stay in a nice condo in the Marais. Make a map of bakeries, markets and restaurants you want to visit. Bring some money for shopping. Have a date night at the fancy cocktail bars. Do some wine tastings. Explore some cathedrals. You'll probably have a great time.
People go to Paris because, despite the grime, it is one of the best cities in the world for restaurants and bars. People may say Tokyo is better but Paris has insane culinary diversity and hidden gem spots on almost every corner. It’s messy and full of foreigners but the soul of the city is still there in its gastronomic culture. While obviously other French cities will have better deals you can still find a lot of different budget places in Paris with things you can generally only find in Paris as all the subcultures of France generally accumulate as it’s where the best chefs bite their nails.
>>2820521What actually does France have in terms of cuisine? Italy MOGS France for eating out, even Spain does. It's not even close.If you're spending bank, then just go to London.France is living off of fumes. It offers nothing. They love the smell of their own farts so much, I believe this may be the sole driver of '''''climate change''''''''.
>>2820488This anon knows.Even during La Belle Époque, Paris was a shithole. There were criminal gangs called Apaches, brothels, alcoholics got blasted on absinthe liquor for cheap...There were great achievements in terms of architecture, culture and design during this era, but life as a normal worker was mostly a mess. People were beat up for their wallets if they went to the wrong places just like today.Same back in the time of François Villon, in the 1300s. French people were always savages really, and I say this as a frog.Looking at old movies and documentaries, Paris used to have a more distinct identity until the 1970s, people selling food at market stands had a more pronounced accent for example, different from the high class "neutral" accent of the south west bourgeoisie near Versailles.Nowadays, Paris is seen as the epitome of high class and it's definitely an important city in Europe, but the high class thing is only available to a specific elite who can afford to dine at the Fouquet's or gastronomeme restaurants, go to nouveau riche clubs, etc.Everyone else with a normal adult life is often living in the outskirts, were either born in the Île-de-France region or moved there for a job/business opportunity, they stay 10, 15 years or more, then move somewhere else in provincial France when they are about to burnout.Paris is stressful. As a French person, you move there to make money or study, not really for fun. The center is fucking expensive. But a ton of things happens there.In a sense, it seems to be a similar situation regarding NYC in the US, which was enormously influential culturally but also a sketchy city in the 20th century up until now where gentrification kinda killed the thrill of it all, or so I've heard.
>>2820321Paris was great up until the early 2000s. In the 1990s it still had immigrants but they were more well-behaved and actually tried to integrate.Then far-left politics slowly took over the city, infiltrated the universities, brainwashed kids into accepting total and rampant degeneracy. This led to open-door policy immigration starting around 2011-2012 with the civil war in Syria and when Gadaffi was killed, where millions (Yes, millions, they're lying about the numbers) of migrants from Syria, Morocco, Algeria, central africa were allowed in with little to no screening.Now the city is overrun by religious extremists, migrants who resort to crime knowing the cops won't do anything, jewish zionist radicals calling french people goys on live TV and getting away with it, and a population of arrogant and delusional pseudo-intellectual NPCs who think this normal.
>>2820351The history of the park as a royal preserve which was magnanimously gifted to the public was cool, but the park itself was too much concrete walkways and overly manicured shrubbery. Lumphini and Benchakitti are basically the extent of "nature" in the entirety of Bangkok. Shabby as fuck. The Red Cross Fair in Lumphini Park had nice energy, however. Lots of happy successful people, hardly a foreigner in sight. I bought ten hot little egg tarts for only 50 baht, and they were some of the best egg tarts I've ever eaten.
>>2821867t. American who has never left his home state and learned of the world outside his mom's basement from /pol/
>>2820321paris is an amazing city as a touristi live 15mins by metro to the center of itit's overall a beautiful city, it makes me go "waoh" even though i basically live heresome area are shit and full of brown people sadly, don't wanna be the guy saying "it's how it is in big cities" but thats how it is in big citieskurt caz video, i like this dude, however i never had his experience, wouldn't suprise me if this guy goes looking for ityou see scammer, you see blacks selling shitty china eiffel tower, however if you've read just 5 mins about scams in general before coming here you will never have any problemthe only thing that i wish is that there were less cars inside, but still paris has done a good job slowly removing themcome during the summer, you'll love itit's overpriced though for sure
>>2820350Great job so far, weekly rapes next to the tower in the bushes all the time
>>2822041I am going next week, staying just outside the city though cus cheaper. I have never left the U.S. before and Paris seemed like a good first pick, they are showing Très Riches Heures at some chateau nearby and I have always wanted to see it.
>>2820321France deserves it
Go to Lille instead. Under-rated city.
>>2820348>The police don't carry rifles in safe countries.then there must be no safe countries in the world. because in every country, even if the police aren't routinely armed, they can call in extra armed support units if necessary, and police around government buildings, tourist hotspots etc are more likely to be armed than not, including carrying rifles.
It's a city of great juxtaposition. Architecturally it is objectively one of the best. Gastronomically unmatched. Unfortunately yes, the rest of it is pretty shit. Both times I've been I remember being utterly underwhelmed or even disgusted before catching a view from the Pomidou or finding myself alone in a quiet alley flooded with calm.The fleeting moments of beauty and peace are only made possible by the regular disapointment of the city as a whole.In reality it is a really difficult city to enjoy as a solo traveler. You almost need a group of people or a companion to filter the ugliness around and focus on the beauty. Overall 6/10, probably won't be back
I've always had this idea for a movie that I think would be really cool. Imagine a modern American transported back to the "golden age" of Paris that he fantasizes about... only to find out that it's actually mostly fabricated nostalgia and the only "golden age" exists in our rose-colored memories of the past. I think this could be a really cool movie but I don't know if it would ever get made. One thing I know for sure is that Paris has always been a wonderful, happy and uplifting place. That's exactly how Dickens, Hugo, Zola, Henry Miller et al have portrayed Paris —a shining beacon of light where everybody lives well.
>>2822455>Paris>a wonderful, happy and uplifting place>a shining beacon of light where everybody lives well>Dickenser what?have you actually read a tale of two cities anon?
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>>2822418Come on, don't be silly. Most civilized countries don't have armed soldiers patrolling the streets.The French Foreign Legion decked out in gear fresh from btfo'ing Boko Haram and shit in Mali isn't normal.
>>2820321I'm Brazilian, and live in one of the nice cities here, went to Paris 3 months ago, felt like I was in a mixture of African/Middle east dump, absolutely disgusting, felt more unsafe in broad daylight there than walking in my city alone at night.
I wasn’t in Paris but a few of the other French cities and everyone was super nice and polite. Where did this psyop that French people are rude assholes come from?
>>2820321>video was remove for violating youtube's terms of serviceKEEEKKKKKK
>>2822750lmao. He's REALLY upsetting the neoliberal shareholder classesThe reddit thread is quite amusing. Some people are extremely low energy:https://www.reddit.com/r/KurtCaz/comments/1nedwgj/youtube_has_taken_down_the_latest_video_of_kurt/
>>2822748Parisians are known for being curt and the massive tourism has resulted in them being fed up with foreigners that don’t attempt in the slightest to do things their way, eg just speaking their language a bit. If you just do your best with a months preparation of French then I‘d say you shouldn’t expect any genuine rudeness.The oblivious foreigner that can’t speak your language usually starts as a fun novelty but can eventually evolve into an annoying nuisance.
>>2822780Everyone on Reddit is either banned or shadowbanned. The only remaining users are braindead goysumers that repeat whatever they're told like a bot (will inevitably get banned anyways) and mentally retarded trannies who are too retarded to realize they're interacting with 99% AI bots.
>>2820321During the Olympics they basically had it the most heavily guarded and whitest since the Nazi occupation. Gypsies and street scammers all chased into hiding. Impossible to look anywhere without seeing squadrons of 3 guards (always 2 men, one qt waifu - pretty much anime inspired)The only annoyance was the highways having dedicated Olympic lanes, but then again you can get around Paris without driving.
>>2822807Do you seriously think France can recover. Most of the whites are mentally ill.
Nah it's great. It's a city. You need to have discernment. It's still a vibe with tons of things to do and history to see. They can never make me hate Paris. But that's okay, less tourists are great for me.
