What is the most ghetto, clapped out, dilapidated town or city you have visited in America?I will go with Utica NY, I felt super unsafe and couldn't wait to leave. Bonus for smaller towns and not just big cities.
>>2820686camden, atlantic city, pleasantville nj
>>2820686Baltimore, followed by Springfield MA
>>2820694Hmm, can I amend it to not New Jersey? That's cheating.
New Orleans, but the less shitty areas are great
>>2820686Columbus, GA.Outside the small downtown, it's a shitholeAnd Ft. Benning is probably the dumpiest base I've ever seen
>>2820699New Orleans shocked me with how dilapidated it was on the outskirts. Didn't stop me from parking under a bridge for the night and taking a walk after dark through the ghettos saying "Good evening" to the bucks I passed. They responded politely. It's very rare to encounter rudeness from strangers in an American ghetto, because disrespect gets people killed, and it's automatically assumed that a white guy who is both polite and fearless is packing a firearm.>>2820686Utica doesn't look any worse than Wichita, Kansas. The boulevard with all the cheap motels in Wichita had a lot of rough characters walking around. Drug dealers, temp workers, and losers who'd rather live in a cheap motel in Wichita than be homeless somewhere else.Timid Eurocuck autists who are used to being ignored as a low-value male walking around in public are likely to feel "super unsafe" in an American ghetto, simply because they are being noticed. Whereas if you simply say "hello" and chat with randoms on the street, you'll discover that most ghetto dwellers when sober are surprisingly friendly toward strangers, if a bit profane, dramatic and overly informal. My first solo roadtrip as a 19 year old took me to Camden, where I walked the streets in the winter cold with my camera. Almost everyone was indoors. A black guy at the McDonalds asked me what I was doing with the camera, but he wasn't hostile, only curious. Again, sobriety makes all the difference. Drunk/drugged-out ghetto dwellers should be avoided.
>>2820686East St Louis
>>2820720Delusional retard
Gary, Indiana or East St Louis
>>2820686Cairo, ILJohnstown, PA>>2820702Wew Columbus sucks
Tucumcari New Mexico, and a lot of the small towns along i40 in New Mexico were very eerie to me. A lot of them were like ghost towns with shitty run down buildings all over, and you could catch some locals watching you from afar and you could tell you weren't welcome. When I had to stop for gas they were places you got the feeling to fuel up and then hit the road as quickly as possible. A fair amount of the indian reservations there are like that too. Albuquerque is kinda shitty too but I never felt it was eerie like that. I lived in Arizona for a bit so I occasionally drove through New Mexico to visit family in the midwest
>>2820686Jackson Mississippi is dangerous and ghetto incarnate
>>2820743Johnstown ain't so bad. I found a really nice bakery/deli there that makes a decent bagel and you can get out and look at the river from at least two different places - including the concrete channelized area where the Stony Creek River meets the Conemaugh which is where the flood slammed into the town and there's hiking trails dotting the town. I agree there are some zomboid blacks, and actually Johnstown is famous cuz at one point the mayor said that Blacks and Hispanics had to fuck off from the city and couldn't move there and I feel like the National Guard had to be called in to stop them from enforcing that. There's also a cute flood museum and there WAS a funicular that they keep saying will be fixed but is closed for repairs, but you can drive up to the hill above the city and there's some nice big old homes there but you can't get a good view (afaik) without taking the funicular which kinda sucks. There's also views of the Conemaugh gorge from both sides of the river - the eastern one, snyder vista, basically being drivable (though on a rough road in winter)
I had to do a job in McKeesport Pennsylvania one time about 10 years ago. I've never seen a worse town in the US. It's as bad as the worst neighborhood in Baltimore. It looked like a nuclear bomb had gone off and turned the whole town into black zombies. This dude did a driving video of McKeesport. The street with city hall looks ok. But the neighborhoods were shocking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOC0by4H_to
>>2820697Baltimore is weird. It has some of the worst ghettos in the entire US, but it also has some cool areas. Federal Hill is really nice. The inner harbor is nice. Canton is a pretty good area with some great bars. And there are some great bars in Mt Vernon. But if you drive one street in the wrong direction, you can quickly find yourself in hell.
>>2820797>>2820694>>2820698salem nj used to be pretty bad. was always a small middle class town that relied on the heinz plant and the nearby glass factory. once that left the city it became a small town filled wIth poor blacks surrounded by no major cities
>>2820697>Springfield MAButt hey have a lovely Cambo community
>>2820750Jackson is lovely. I love the real south.
>>2820813Somehow I doubt it. Memphis was one of the worst cities I've ever visited and the murder rate in Jackson is 3 times higher than in Memphis. Jackson actually has one of the highest murder rates in the world, 77/100K. That's 7th in the world. The city of Jackson had the same number of murders in 2024 as the entire country of the Netherlands. The Netherlands has a population that is more than 100X larger than Jackson. Netherlands 18 million population, murders 114 murders in 2024Jackson Mississippi, population 141,000, 118 murders in 2024
>>2820686This is every city thanks to the demographic replacement of White Christians who know how to do culture right.
>>2820686Reading, PA is the most depressing American city I've been to. Went there to go hiking up to the giant Pagoda (really cool and weird place) but the city itself is sad and forgotten and everyone seems lost and broke. Upon research of the place, I found that it was the city with the highest share of people below the poverty line in the whole country (40%). I would say Baltimore otherwise, but it has decent parts. Reading shouldn't be the way it is for a city its size. Honestly , all of Pennsylvania is like this.
>>2820797what the fuck, this is like a zone in fallout3
>>2820800>>2820797https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZFBy4QkXIw
the military sends special forces medic candidates to work in hospitals in camden and jacksonville for 3 weeks as training so they get accustomed to treating bullet wounds
>ctrl+f>no toledoPeople here are fucking delusional
>>2820871excluding gays from society isn't culture, it's malice
Obvious that there's a lot of East Coast snobs here. I've lived in about 60% of the country and Springfield/Chicopee is pretty bad. Most of the Navajo Nation in Arizona is literally a third world. North Tulsa is one of the worst areas I've ever seen with sheet metal shacks and zero amenities cuz they keep getting robbed and shut down. Most areas that are far from a major city have suffered from a economic Hallowing effect of rural America and are dead husks. Its shocking how destroyed most rural small towns are and most ppl don't know or care
>>2821065Post-industrial towns are always the worst for decay. Most of the Navajo Nation is trailer homes scattered at wide intervals across a landscape of extreme barrenness. Their towns are very desolate as well. The grocery store is the only business that prospers. I drove onto the Hopi reservation once and it seemed completely dead, like a ghost town. Nobody around on a mild sunny day.
Youngstown, OH sticks out in my mind. I have never seen so many groups of obviously unemployed young men milling around in groups all wearing the same colors. Women also seemed to cling in groups to the big muscular white guys seemingly for safety.>>2821058Indian country is genuinely fucked up in a way the worst hoods can't compare to. I've heard stories of boys literally getting branded to join gangs, uranium and agricultural runoff regularly getting into the water supply, widespread child sexual abuse, and shamelessly corrupt but locally powerful tribal institutions.
>>2821091I was staying in an Airbnb about an hour from Youngstown and had considered visiting - there was a really nice hipster cafe I found ~ 6-7 years ago, not sure if it still exists, like a coffee shop serving lunch, and they had a Tuesday-only Ramen special that was amazing - wish I could find it again I ended up visiting Akron instead and the whole downtown was blocked off from vehicle traffic not 100% sure if to pedestrianize downtown or due to construction. They had a small (public?) college near downtown that looked fine. There were both black AND white zombies wandering the town. I got pizza at a cannabis-themed pizzeria. The pizza was good - the sub was just ok because the chicken in the chicken parm was just pieces of grilled chicken not fried cutlets. My main destination was Akron Glassworks and that was VERY nice though I don't get why they can't make more pieces in brighter colors and sometimes the color wasn't fully integrated into the piece which I don't like.
>>2821065Did you not watch the video of McKeesport in this thread. If you know a worse neighborhood than that, I'd love to see it.
>>2820797looks like the last of us
>>2821239Well, I went to McKeesport and it seemed ok. Granted, I did not really drive through all of it, but they had a nice little heritage museum on a hill, and the BIG attraction in McKeesport is you have a little park near the pipe factory where the Youghiogheny River meets the Monongahela River and there's steps up to a bridge where you can get a good shot of the confluence from above. And then there's a bunch of small towns along the Mon river upstream in between there and the PA border that I found pretty and there was this pseudo-overlook that was somewhat overgrown but was still nice.
>>2820686Newark. I have never seen homeless dudes camped out near the highway tunnels that slapped on people's windows as they drove by, and demanded shit with weapons.Fuckin intense place
>>2820995Hey buddy, fuck off. Northeast PA in most towns ain't too bad.Central PA Iis middle of nowhere. Philly is shit in its own right. Pittsburgh is fine.But saying all of PA sucks is retarded when all of Jersey is literally trash.
>>2821246Scranton seems charmless and sprawling. Wilkes Barre seems somehow less bad. Reading is pretty awful. Did you know they made a whole musical album in 2008 about how shitty Reading is as a town to grow up in? It's called Innerpartsystem by the band of the same name.>Pittsburgh is fine.it could be so much more than fine
>>2821246>when all of Jersey is literally trash.retard
>>2820850I'm going to Jackson. Look out Jackson town
>>2820686So far Detroit however it is slowly improving.
For me? North Las Vegas.Last place I went where I felt genuinely unsafe. Total shithole.
>>2820871A bigger culprit was silent gen and boomer cunts moving manufacturing overseas, killing the industry in all these small towns
>>2821452How did they do that
>>2820797>Lich PaperNo wonder the place has walking dead problems
>>2821443I got my truck robbed there while I was walking around in the middle of the afternoon. Also spent a night sleeping in my truck on the street and got woken up by gunshots - and they weren't target practice either. Heard stories of tweakers going around with battery powered saws and chopping welded-on solar panels off the roof of a campervan.
>>2821458close the factory one day, take the profits out of state, and run away possibly invest some of the money in chinese steel or coal plants
100% anything this guy posts on youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SpyiPB8mRk
>>2821561B..but it's lovely in the summer.
>>2820686Stockton, California
>>2821579Also Bakersfield to an extent but that's kinda mean
>>2820797When I was a college freshman at Pitt I got off at the wrong bus stop and was in McKeesport just as it was getting dark. Cars driving on the streets but no people out. Kind of eerie, empty with lots of empty buildings. It was the downtown, not neighborhoods like your video. But I found my way to the bus station and smoked a j with a cool black kid and then got on a bus back. Actually right above downtown Pittsburgh is an area that basically looks like that video, where there are like two houses left standing per square block and groups of feral black kids throw stuff as the cars go by.
>>2821097>blogpostConsider thinking about which pieces of information will be of interest to others and which won't
>>2822019ok I will
>>2820686Redpill me on Camden, is it really as bad as they say?
>>2823948the only reason to be in new jersey is driving through it to get somewhere elseif you are getting off the highway for any reason other than to get gas or food - you are going to get murdered
>>2823950lol you're a giant homo
>>2823955yeah, im flamboyantly gay and I am not getting terrorized by some gorilla nigger to prove to you that new jersey isn't so badI WILL SAYas an exception the parts immediately surrounding the delaware river can be nice
>>2820694Worked one winter in AC, about a mile north of the touristy area. The town is a trip when you're not near the casinos/shopping outlets. Very much the ruins of a forgotten city.I knew Camden was bad, but never grasped how bad until I started taking the Patco into philly, getting an elevated view of parts of the city you'd never drive through. Straight up looks like a third world country.Living in philly later, philly obviously has huge swatchs that look like Camden, but it's parts you'd never actually set foot in. The city itself still has cool areas despite the crime increase.>>2820800Grew up in South Jersey. Haven't looked back in a while, but as trashy as some of the towns are, they definitely have their own unique vibes I've never seen anywhere else.Maybe it's different now, but most of them just had white trash or hispanic trash. Which wasn't great, but not nearly as dangerous as places like Camden or AC.
>>2823948Yeah. Where it's seated on the map, it's basically one of the ghettos of philly, except its own city since it's across the river in NJ.The waterfront is kept nice because it has a concert venue, a few corporate businesses, a small Rutgers campus, etc, but it's "nice" in that it's under high security because the rest of the city's ghetto.
>>2823950>murder rate in NJ: 3.4 per 100KYou're just afraid of mean words, kek
>>282395090% of NJ is suburban, or "rural" in that you're in the woods or farmland, but can still be in a major city inside of 30 minutes.The shore is beautiful. NYC and Philly basically all pour into NJ on the summer weekends for a reason.It really only has a handful of ghettos.
>>2820686Memphis
uniontown, PAdon't be fooled by the pictures, there is some dark shit going on thererolled up to the walmart around 11pm and it was full of teenagers smoking weed and "selling stuff" weird zombie like people stumbling around town after darkteenagers just roaming around, really fucking weird and feral vibes
>>2824039I will say, Uniontown PA had some gorgeous old mansions on a hill near town. Tons of fine architectural details. You can tell the town used to be a big something. Many of the mansions were falling apart, but they were some of the nicest I've seen.Ok question frens, I am going to NY state soon - do you recommend Albany or Schenectady to see anything specific there, or are they too ghetto to bother with? I was told to stay the fuck out of Utica and it was pretty bad. Rome was not quite so bad, but pretty bad, though it had a sub shop with gourmet subs on fresh focaccia that I still think about sometimes (near the airport).
>>2820686Spokane WAYoungstown OH
>>2824282Parents took a trip to the Poconos and had to convince them not to go to Youngstown on a day trip
>>2820694Don't forget TrentonMight as well add Harrisburg PA too. It's crazy how shitty US state capitals can be
>>2824289I found Harrisburg quite pleasant when I visited in 2015. Met some very friendly church kids having a youth bible study and we chatted for hours.
>>2824293>I found Harrisburg quite pleasant when I visited in 2015.insaneit's awfullike, you think oh the state capital of pa how bad could it beBAD>>2824288what that makes no sense those are on the other side of the state, youngstown is like a 5 hour drive each way from the poconos
>>2824295Wait fuck you're right it was Harrisburg, never mind. Debating then deciding against Youngstown was another road trip
>>2824293Tbf I've only been to Harrisburg once, and I just passed through. The National Civil War Museum is really nice, but then I went to some random shopping center to get something to eat, and it was so ghetto I thought I was gonna get shot
>>2820686Big chunks of Dallas/Ft. WorthRunner up is Oklahoma, which just has ghost towns all along the highway straight out of shit looking like courage the cowardly dog
I think a lot of you are just too soft and get scared too easily
>>2820738Nah. 99% of crime is done between in-group and by lower middle-class.>>2820799Baltimore has some really beautiful areas yeah, but they're for non-natives because the city doesn't get any money from the state for services. one of the few places in the us I've been propositioned by hookers in the middle of the day just walking down the street.
>>2820698Jersey isn't nearly as bad as the south, it just seems like shit because thirty minutes away gets you into better states
>anons just post their home towns they desperately trying to leave or left alreadykekkkkkk
>>2820686>World's ghettoest:Tijuana>America's ghettoest:San Franscisco mid town
>>2821091>>2821097You both need to kill yourselvesLifelong western PA resident here. I've driven through Youngstown at night to get gas in the most "ghetto" parts of it and felt perfectly safe. It has character and charm. The lies and slander about my region is so fucking gay. Sorry not everything is fucking phoenix.
>>2824387redpill me on erie, I'm considering visiting because of the charm of a town in pa being on a lake but I don't know what to see, or if its worth itim hoping to take the oil creek railroad next month
>>2821268You can get some ballin mansions in Detroit, like this is 40 million easily in Los Angeles.https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1771-Balmoral-Dr-Detroit-MI-48203/88355698_zpid/Insane for 1.8 million, this is a freaking 100 million dollar estate in Francehttps://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2150-Iroquois-St-Detroit-MI-48214/88413122_zpid/Sorry lol I just threw in some houses sorry if I was weird I am not a real estate agent.
>>2824389I've been wanting to visit Erie too, but I cannot for the life of me find any reason to. The city literally has no tourist draw. Theres nothing there outside the basic zoo and children's birthday venues that every city has
>>2824389Presque Isle is a must see. It is fun to bike, walk or swim there. The lake is very pleasant for that. The bicentennial tower is fun to hang out at. I enjoyed the erie maritime museum. They have a reconstructed boat from the 1800s and do tours. I recommend getting a steak salad at any restaurant. Fries on top of salad is a regional specialty. I liked the Fresh Monkee in Erie if you're in the mood for smoothies. I wouldn't go too out of your way to see erie, but presque isle and the maritime museum are the big things if youre there.
>>2824398>literally no tourist draw>has the most visited state park in PA
I'm not even the biggest erie fan. But it's just silly to say there isn't anything to see there. You could spend all day at presque isle
>>2824387>being this mad>Youngstown is about as shitty as any other ghetto so not sure what your point is
>>2824387I'm plenty tough, which is why I know to 360 and walk away when there are groups of young men milling around with nothing to do on a Thursday afternoon all wearing all blue, all red, all green, or all purple.
>>2824387Youngstown is the biggest shithole I've ever seen. Stop defending the undefendable, faggot.
>>2825227Never seen that in Youngstown. This isnt 1990>>2825231You've never traveled. Why are you on this board
>>2820686Toledo, OH and Maybe Flint, MI
>getting this mad about YoungstownDude from the outside it looks the same as any other midwest shithole maybe it has gotten 20% less bad lately but that doesn't matter to outsiders. It's a desolate ghetto either way.
>>2825465well, is there something nice there?
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>>2820850It's because of a certain demographic just like the other cities on the list. I'll give you a hint, it's not the crackers in the trailer park.
>>2821246>But saying all of PA sucks is retarded when all of Jersey is literally trash.Both can be true at the same time.t. Been to both
>>2821247Reading died when the railroad named after the town died, local industries being shipped overseas notwithstanding.
>>2828074And the new railroad that took its name is a shadow of its former self and doesn't come close to it in size or revenue.
I've only ever been to Seattle, Portland, Corvallis, "The Oregon Coast" (don't ask me to fucking name any of those villages), Bend, Sisters, and San Fransisco. None of it seemed bad. Lots of homeless people in the States compared to EU. SF probs had the most druggies/weirdos, but you really had to turn a wrong corner to end up there. Most everywhere else I went was really beautiful and chill.
>>2828074What year did the railroad die?
>>28281171976
>>2828143oh its been a while then
Pennsylvania seems to be dominating this thread.I run a small online business. I always look up a customer's address on google streetview just to make sure they don't live in an apartment and forgot to include their apartment number (happens all the time). Pennsylvania is the only place where looking up an address on google streetview makes me think "damn it must be depressing to live here"
>>2828276what do you sell?
