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Another One edition

>Last Thread: >>2814840

>What is this thread? Why are there two companies?
Disney parks were initially founded as a way to celebrate the culture and history of America and provide middle class families with a fun-filled immersive experience. While theme parks are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other roller coasters & rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /rcg/ comes in.
>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?
Absolutely! Disney and Universal are currently competing for the Orlando theme park market and beyond! Universal is opening new resorts all around the US and new continents!

Park Crowd Tracker:
>https://queue-times.com/en-US/parks

Roller Coaster Database:
>https://rcdb.com/

Amusement Park News Sites:
>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/
>https://www.screamscape.com/
>https://www.coaster101.com/

Disney Park News:
>https://www.wdwnt.com/
>https://www.wdwmagic.com/
>https://www.allears.net
>https://www.mousesteps.com

Universal Park News:
>https://www.insideuniversal.net
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They are finally giving fans what they want
>A ride revamp?
Fuck no, a $9000 crystalized figure
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>>2820708
Big news for the one saudi oil lord that visited epcot in the mid 80s
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>>2820708
perfectly encapsulates modern day disney.
the peasants get inebriated drinking around the world while ogling consoomer slop they could only dream of affording. it starts when booking their trip online at an all-stars resort while dreaming of being fortunate enough to afford staying at a moderate let alone deluxe resort. then they are forced to wait in a 100 minute wait for slinky dog dash while envying people with enough cash to blow on lightning lanes to cut in front of them. you still paid thousands to be here even though you got the bottom of the barrel experience because thats all any middle class person can afford. you traveled here and paid all that money to remember figment and dreamfinder from your childhood? well too bad, dreamfinder has been dead for over 30 years because he represented the creative will of the white man and that costs money so here's some retarded gucci encrusted nonsense that some black kid will stand there and stare at, dreaming of stealing it while literally no one, not even rich people who have the money to burn actually buy it. galactic starcruiser? you mean they closed it because people of wealth and class didnt want to spend their money and vacation in an indoor laser tag arena?
when you realize
>this company run by the shekel persuasion just wants to mock you for being too middle class to feel good about yourself and they feed off the greed energy they get from you spending your entire savings to take your family to the wilderness lodge and ride carnival rides that replaced your leader of white culture's vision of the perfect america. and they probably laugh at you all in the process, especially seeing you covet things out of your price range that they themselves could have the privilege of purchasing if they wanted, but don't because its tacky slop made by jews and not the dreamfinders/walt disneys/imagineers/white man product of the past which held actual cultural value and substance
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I am actually devastated
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Sorry for the hard to read map, don't really know what I'm doing or care to make it look more professional. Don't know how to get the estimated mileage either besides tracking GPS while actually attempting the walk. Also, not shown is that I determined there should be a sidewalk that runs from Blizzard Beach up to Coronado springs which I didn't catch before. So in theory that's all resorts, parks, water parks, shopping district, and mini golfs.
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>>2820716
Real talk, I can afford the expensive shit but far prefer the value resorts
I am not going to sit in a hotel all day which provide you just about the same shit
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>>2820718
Honestly, this is a step in the right direction for the value resorts. The style chosen for all of them, even Pop Century and AoA let alone the all-stars might be the gaudiest examples of tasteless design ever seen in resort planning.
That shadowbox shit that was on the walls at Pop looked like gentrified trash you would see on the walls of an Applebee's. Fake ass obvious callbacks to vintage stuff from the past but the actual items in them are barely worthy of a garage sale, and are the stereotype ephemeral stuff you expect it to be.
I've had a theory since around the time they built these abominations that they made the value resorts look like shit on purpose, to fool you into thinking the moderate and deluxe resorts are a better value. At least the new style they are going for is streamlined and looks more like the interior of a hotel. They could vastly improve all of them if they dropped the randomness of the IPs being spread out at all the resorts and just themed each one to something more specific. Like just made Pop an entirely Mickey Mouse IP themed resort, and make AoA's sections be actually themed to settings in the movies they're based on instead of everything looking a cheap wallpaper representation of them. And most importantly, just get rid of the giant objects. Why the fuck are there like six resorts with random giant objects all over the fucking place? That shit always looked so terrible its embarrassing and offensive to even see in pictures, let alone when you're staying there.
Actually now that I think about it just bulldoze all the value resorts and build more moderates in their place.
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>>2820723
I mean this isn't really much different than the walking you'd do in a normal day there
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Currently at my third night of HHN, and I have updated my strategy to do everything in one night without Express. Do not listen to anyone else. They are retarded and probably gay.
>Stay and Scream at Terrifier (if you can't stand being in the sun for that time, do WWE)
>Immediately head to Jason before it opens.
>Go back to Fallout and Galkn, doing Fallout first.
>Finish off with Hatchet and Chains
From there you can either head to Nightmare Fuel or hop in line for Dolls depending on whether you want to do the shows. This way you knock out three of the busiest houses with virtually zero wait. For FNAF, you will have to wait until 1AM or bite the bullet and wait. I'll share my thoughts on the houses some other time, but I will say this is a very strong year with only one bad house (Fallout).
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>>2820782
When I did stay and scream, someone got an umbrella and everyone passed it along to groups as they got stuck in a part with direct sunlight as they shuffled into it. Was kinda neat.

But yeah, if you're doing stay and scream, a water bottle and caps for everyone (or an umbrella) are a must

>>2820759
On one hand I agree that the displays were poorly presented and a bit cluttered but I'm not sure just glorified wallpaper is the answer. I guess I prefer that someone has spent some time thinking and putting something together rather than seeing artwork that probably originated as a Jira task for some random artist to do before he was assigned to do posters for 25% off end of season posters for gift shops.

I think Disney are very careful not to risk elevating their value and moderate value resorts too high, hence them having the same sort of design principles (with AoA and Pop Century being the same but done slightly nicer so that along with the skyliner they can justify the price bump over the All Stars). Accidentally make a value resort too well themed and it takes away bookings from the higher margin resorts, make it too shabby and it hurts their reputation.

You'd probably be interested in the overhaul they've just done to the Davy Crockett ranch in Disneyland Paris. They've gone in a lot heavier in the Disney theming and now rather than just woodland cabins with the occasional mickey, it's based on the Junior Woodchucks from Duck Tales and leans heavily into it being one of their campsites. Families even get a Jr Woodchuck survival manual when they check in.
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>>2820855
Interestingly it isn't based on old or nu duck tales, it's based off of the French comics so the art style has that modern French comic influence. Actually looks pretty comfy for the cheapest hotel in Paris (stayed there a couple of years ago and it was pretty good, aside from no breakfast buffets, starbucks or park shuttles)

https://x.com/ED92Magic/status/1964007442011857332/video/3
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Just came back from a trip to Efteling. The park was comfortably busy, never had to wait longer than 30 minutes for anything.
I haven't been in several years so the new Grand Hotel in the park is there now. I wasn't a fan when they announced it, I figured it was gonna ruin the impact of the main entrance building, but I have to admit they did a great job, it looks beautiful.

The big thing was riding Danse Macabre for the first time (pic related). I avoided all ride footage so I had no idea what to expect other than the general idea of how the ride system works, but it is definitely fantastic. In broad strokes it's like a spinner ride you find in most parks, but souped up, grandiose and everything dialed to 11. It's not necessarily the most thrilling ride, but it is incredibly fun. The fast spins and ups and tilts do a great job selling the "dance" part, and all movements are perfectly in sync with the music, making it feel oddly cinematic. Not sure that's the best word to describe it but whatever. Great ride. The surrounding area is also themed very well. I especially loved the sound design, you always hear things rustling in the bushes around you from all directions, which grow more monstrous sounding the farther you get in the queue.

Other stray observations:
>Fata Morgana is fun, but some of the animatronics need to be fixed up so their necks don't look broken
>Droomvlucht is still more magical than anything Disney has ever made
>Villa Volta is still my favorite for being solid fun for zero wait times usually (and the best music)
>All staff was super friendly and happy to be there, a nice thing to see.
>Didn't do any roller coasters because my partner doesn't like them, but I tricked her onto De Vliegende Hollander at the end of the day and she cursed me the whole way through the outdoor section. She ended up having fun so it was all good in the end.

TL;DR - Efteling is rad
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>>2820718
It is so ugly. I hate this style. Started with Universal and now even Disney is doing it.

>>2820730
>>2820759
I will never understand this mindset. The whole point of money is access to beauty. This is like those billionaires who marry ugly women (Zuckerberg). Part of the fun of life is your resort. The fluffy pillows. Pretty things to look at. Fluffy robes. Fluffy slippers. Soft air. Special water. A sparkling clear large pool free of loud obnoxious people. Margeritas in the sun. Spas. and a big tub. A big TV. No bugs, no roaches. Housekeepers doing everything that you'd have to do at home.

Its part of the experience. Going to the parks, as fun as it is, does beat up the body a bit with the walking and sharing with so many people. Coming instantly to a semi private luxury place of beauty almost immediately after is part of the fun. That said, they're charging almost a thousand dollars a night I saw at the Contemporary. And the interior used to be marble and dark bachelor NYC type tones and now its that cheesy bright cheap type that you posted.
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>>2820782
I don't understand why you'd do Universal when the Busch Gardens one is ten times better simply because of the USF pipeline.
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>>2820782
https://youtu.be/dUSSdMkE-JA

Disney Adult here. I never understood people who enjoy terrifying themselves.
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>>2820855
>Davy Crockett ranch
>tattoos, earrings, man bun galore
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>>2820855
Honestly by destroying Frontierland, Disney got rid of the last place they had that would appeal to men
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>>2820706
How DEI rewrite are they going to make the carousal of progress
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>>2820759
Kill yourself retard.
The all-stars are the best resorts by far if you're a little kid. You pricks who dump on them would never stay there anyway even if they did rip the soul out. If you can't understand why the giant objects are cool, it can't be explained to you. Just gtfo and pay more for subtler theming and almost no extra amenities other than location.
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>>2820706
The idea of an alien spaceship doesn't scare me as much as those victorian haunted houses.
https://youtu.be/zrP_t7FoJbs
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>>2820877
There's a significant contingent of people who cannot or will not allow themselves to enjoy a vacation. It still has to be work to be enjoyable - that is, planning the whole day out down to minute details, being up at the crack of dawn to get ready, being at the park for rope drop or whatever, and staying as long as possible "to get your money's worth." The idea of relaxing to them is knowing their money was "well spent," that is to say they extracted the absolute maximum value from it that they could, even though it's stressful and tiring.

This comes out when people say a motel room "Is just where I sleep, I won't spend any time there." They won't allow themselves the luxury of sleeping in on their own vacation. It's absurd. I wonder if they get any actual joy from going to theme parks, or if they see the whole experience as running down a checklist and trying to get as many boxes ticked as they can (once again thinking they're at work).

For the money people spend on the value motels at WDW (they have less square footage than a Motel 6 room), they could have a nice suite or a condo just off property. Again, "it's just a place to sleep" gets repeated, it's like they must punish themselves while on vacation.
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>>2820910
How do you find good ratings? Google Maps is owned by Indians who promote thier own kind no matter how roach infested they are.
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>>2820910
To me part of the luxury is to stay on property where you don't have to wait for a shuttle or be driven. Monorail access is pure luxury.
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>>2820706
Anybody else married to someone who hates Disney
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>>2820706
Stuff I want to do:
Howloscream at Busch gardens
After party at Epcot & Hollywood
Day pass at Epic Universe
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>>2820706
Are we ever gonna get a Journey to Center of the Earth here? To be honest I'm not impressed with Tokyo's version. I'd want it to be more like the 60s movie, with a large sea, dinosaurs, and Atlantis. But still at least they have one unlike Orlando.
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>>2820706
https://youtu.be/iEzlc1dkhEY?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/8y0hC4FH-aY?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/TkfuH-Wjpqo?feature=shared

https://youtube.com/shorts/tuEpvp3ElYI?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/vp7f7U27_fw?feature=shared
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>>2820910
Very original and fresh observation anon. Nobody has ever talked about this before.

I don't really think that the micromanaging tourists are that much more present in the Disney sphere than any other expensive tourist destination. People just dump on the Disney planners because it's not as interesting as real cities. If a Disney planner put the same effort into a Tokyo trip for example nobody would care, but because it's put towards a family theme park with rides people scoff.

And for many people, they'd rather overpay to get a "full experience" staying on property than be really value-minded and stay off property. Don't forget early park entry for resort guests which draws in these types of people too.

>>2820924
>Anybody else married
No.
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>>2820927
Buy an ad
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>>2820857
Speaking of Disney comics, never forget that Disney banned one of the most acclaimed comic series of all time from ever being reprinted again because a racist looking African character shows up in one issue.
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>>2820860
That looks amazing. I hope I get to go to the European parks someday.
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>>2820928
Thanks for solidifying my argument :)
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>>2820930
>Crying about a comic book for kids in a thread about theme parks
For what purpose
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>>2820926
Probably not, those rides take up a lot of space and both California and Florida have examples of the system.

Definite possibility of Paris getting something though. Original planning documents for the Frozen expansion showed something that looked an awful lot like a cars land and it's widely thought that the cars road trip is only a temp attraction.
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>>2820782
I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and be a good goyim and get Express. I have friends visiting from out of state that want me to be the HHN spirit guide and I don't really wanna go full Jason Bourne autist in front of them as I shepherd them around and analyze the wait times. Plus I know they're gonna want to do the Mummy and sit down and eat and stuff. If it was a solo trip I'd go special ops autist like you.

Goddamn it Universal. You win.
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>>2820944
Stop shitting up this thread
Buy an ad
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>>2820940
But people are saying Express barely makes a dent.
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>>2820944
Fuck off with this shit. If I wanted to watch low-effort theme park content from influencers I would be on youtube.
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>>2820946
I've read the opposite. 60 minute standby queues being 5 minute express waits. We'd also be going on a weekday.
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>>2820949
I mean take my word with a heavy grain of salt I'm only referring to our resident youtuber who said something along the lines of express being like Disney LLs in that it's basically mandatory and everyone has them for HHN so now nobody is special.
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>>2820927
kill yourself fucking faggot retard
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>>2820951
No disrespect to him but I really doubt that. I've read reports from people who attended this year with express and got all the houses done in an hour and a half then just chilled the rest of the night.
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>>2820928
The free water park perk is the biggest reason to stay on-site. You can even book a value resort the first night, spend the day at Typhoon Lagoon the next day, and then check in to another resort. You basically need to do this because the water park admission is only valid on your check in day.. Which doesnt really make sense because it decentivises people to stay more than one night.
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>>2820955
I've used express before. It definitely doesn't make everything a walk on but it makes waits way shorter. Like the posted wait will be an hour but you'll get in in 15 minutes.
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>>2820706
https://youtu.be/Bcm5pVp7RQo?feature=shared
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>>2820954
After you, I promise.
These links are all relevant to the topic.
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>>2820967
>book fort wilderness tent site for 1 night at $80-$100
>bring 7 of my friends to go to the waterpark
that's if i had 7 friends...
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Been whispers but Universal have confirmed that they're going out their way to make sure the UK park doesn't eat into Orlando holidays.

https://x.com/BoardwalkTimes/status/1963608222075376074

Probably confirms that the vast majority of rides will be unique or from the Asian parks.
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>>2820929
I'll buy an ad if you shoot yourself in the head.
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>>2820930
Disney makes such bad decisions because of wokies.
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>>2820938
Woke shitbag detected.
Stop getting rid of Frontierland
Bring back Splash Mountain
Bring back shooting galleries
Bring back the toy guns you stopped selling
Bring back the real Snow White and Ariel
Bring back European fantasy princesses
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>>2820939
People are sick of IP stuff and this would offer an imaginative escape. Plus they have plenty of land.
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>>2820939
I think its funny that liberals threatened that WDW was going to leave Florida because Florida hates the LGBT groomers.
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>>2820984
>Florida hates the LGBT groomers.
Is that why it's the faggot capitol of the country?
Miami, Orlando, St. Pete, Tampa. Look up Fort Lauderdale pig week.
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>>2820979
This makes me happy as there will be less people in the park, but makes no sense for them. They'll lose the UK base.
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>>2820988
Used to be faggotland. Those places are all turning against the faggots
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>>2820979
I dont think the average normgroid family even looks up what attractions parks offer before deciding to go. I cant count how many times I've seen people walk up to ride ops and ask what a ride is. There's no way it wont cut into british tourism to Orlando, but that's probably for the best. Hopefully they do a Universal Brazil soon so we can eliminate the Brazilians next
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>>2820967
The last thing I, or most people, would want to do on check in day is to go to a fucking water park. It’s a worthless perk for 95% of hotel guests. The 30 min early entry is the best perk. It should be an hour though
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>>2820975
Buy an ad
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Batwing at Six Flags America has permanently closed and they have a sign in front of the ride about it
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>>2821004
Maybe I'm old but I don't see the appeal in doing 5 straight days of theme parks. Even when I was like 16 and brimming with energy, a day at a theme park would wipe me out. Two days was pushing it.

I imagine 5 days would zombify me
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>>2821009
F

I hope we see a new Vekoma flyer in the US soon. I'm honestly hoping we're seeing the decline of B&M now that everyone has caught up to them (and even beats them if some thoosies are to be believed) in terms of smoothness and overall fun. Not saying I hope they close up shop, but there's a certain monotony B&M rides have to them now because they're everywhere here.
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>>2821010
Most people don’t go to theme parks on their arrival days either. I agree they wipe you out but so do water parks. If you want to go to a waterpark to rest, you can do that at the resort pool without running around or changing in a changing room. There are of course theme park commandos who do parks every day but that’s tiring to most people. Most people arrive at all hours and just get situated to go to a park in the morning the next day. They do relax by the pool and maybe go out to dinner. Maybe Disney Springs. I doubt very many are taking advantage of that water park “perk” (except the aforementioned theme park commandos)
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>>2821013
Siren’s Curse and The Flash are the smoothest coasters I’ve ever ridden. Their newer Disney coasters are also just as smooth as was Dragonflier at Dollywood. Cedar Flags is very pleased with Siren’s Curse and screamscape says they might replace Jaguar at Knott’s with a tilt. SC is fantastic and despite those evacuation videos it’s been one of their most reliable coasters since it opened. I predict that Cedar Flags will build many Vekomas at their parks over the next decade. Probably some clones too. As for B&M, it’s time for them to evolve and I think that they will.
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>>2820992
Definitely not Orlando. Most of the theme park employees there are fags
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>>2821046
If you're a Florida local doing a disney hotel staycation type thing then the water park day perk is really cool.
That said last time I did one I skipped the water park because I wanted to explore Port Orleans more since it was my first stay there
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>>2820910
I don’t understand those people. I always stay at an off site villa even when doing Disney (one right next to Disney). It’s more than a place to sleep it’s for chilling and relaxing. Especially if it’s raining. I’m on vacation and prefer not having to cook but having the kitchen is a nice perk even if only for a couple meals like breakfast. This is supposed to be a vacation. I can only walk around in a theme park all waking hours until my legs fall off for a couple of days per trip, not every single day. That’s not fun at all that sounds like torture my favorite part of the vacation is usually hanging out by the pool and sipping on a drink
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Is Offhand Disney gay or is he just a fag
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>>2821076
I watch a UK theme park vlogger once in a while, and he organizes an annual trip to US theme parks. It's another park every single day, even after driving 2-5 hours early in the morning to get from one city to another, every day, for more than a week. By the end everyone in the group is hot, worn out, miserable, and not really in a mood to ride coasters. But I don't think he's ever planned in an off day for everyone to just sleep, chill, and hit the pool. It's go go go from the moment they get off the plane. That's crazy to me, especially given the difference in climates.
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>>2820877
>I will never understand this mindset. The whole point of money is access to beauty.
And your idea of beauty is a Disney resort? There are many reasons I’d say at a Disney resort - charm, kitsch, convenience, nostalgia, and more, but beauty is not one of them.
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>>2820910
>motel room is just where I sleep
>somehow this means they won’t be sleeping in
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>>2821086
If it's a youtube channel then it's work, not play
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>>2821100
Try reading my post first

>>2821105
Not for most of the other people tagging along
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>>2821106
>Not for most of the other people tagging along
They're still part of a work trip, whether he pays them or not. The point is they're not doing that because it's what they want to do, it's because it makes for more content on Youtube. Would you trade being able to sleep in, in exchange for having your job be 'going to theme parks and recording it'? I probably would.
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My sister goes to college in Florida. During thanksgiving my dad wants to go down to visit and they'll go to Universal. He invited me to come, but idk if I should. It's been a long long time since I've been to universal, and I'd like to see Super Nintendo World, but I don't want to be restricted by what my family wants to do, and also I was thinking of taking the time to do my own trip somewhere else, maybe road tripping New England.

What do you think?
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>>2821013
I only became a thoosie this year but it’s hard for me to imagine a time when B&M was the best. Maybe in 2000 or so. When I see a coaster with interesting ideas (Falcons Flight, Maverick, TT2, Pantheon, Hagrid’s, Guardians, Mummy, Siren’s Curse etc), I don’t need to look up whether B&M made it because it’s obvious they didn’t. B&M doesn’t make interesting rides, they make boring rides. Likewise, when I see a generic looking track with a small drop and some loops (Medusa, Rougarou, Batman, the list could go on), I don’t need to look up whether B&M made it because it’s obvious they did.
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>>2821106
I did, you seem to think only using a hotel for sleep somehow caps the amount of sleep you get at the hotel. That doesn’t follow.
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>>2821111
Universal would be fun even if you’re “restricted”, so long as you enjoy being with your family. New England is nice too but do that in late September / early October when the leaves change. Thanksgiving is too late.
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>>2821108
>The point is they're not doing that because it's what they want to do
Wrong

>>2821117
Try it again, anon
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>>2821111
Spend as much quality time with your family as you can, New England or wherever will still be there after your parents are gone and the rest of your family has their own responsibilities and you don't vacation together anymore.
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>>2820949
Non-express autist here. I don't use them, but I can definitely tell they get big priority, at least in some lines. I imagine a mix of good strategy with Express would result in a piss-easy night, but I also imagine that many Express users just say, "fuck it," to strategy and end up with long waits regardless (albeit still shorter than someone without Express or strategy). Express isn't a get out of jail free card, it just means you don't have game the event as much.
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>>2821116
>I only became a thoosie this year but it’s hard for me to imagine a time when B&M was the best. Maybe in 2000 or so
B&M were the kings of the industry from the first Batman invert until pretty recently. You could even make a decent argument that they're still the heavyweight coaster builder in the US.

I wonder what RMC's future is like, they were on fire for a while but I don't hear much about their new installations anymore. They could be doing a bunch of business overseas for all I know. But they do the actual fabrication in-house which contributed to Arrow's financial woes later in their history.
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>>2821116
B&M was the best in the 90s. Their inverts were the best and Kumba was so ahead of its time and made Arrow obsolete. They were still supreme in the 2000s but Intamin rose and started to overshadow them. Their hypers are great and Fury is still one of the best coasters. They make high capacity and reliable crowd pleasers which is why parks love them, however, there are more than enough B&Ms in existence and they will quickly fall behind unless they evolve. Cedar Flags is still working with them but after that giga dive opens I think they’ll start spamming Vekomas throughout the top 15 parks. Hopefully these have unique layouts but more likely they will be clones
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>>2821137
I find it weird there hasn't been a single Wild Moose. Extremely compact and wild mouse rides are always popular. Maybe the aluminium girder look hurts it too much.
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>>2821126
Yep, 100% do the holiday with family if you've got the chance. Life doesn't always tell you when it's your last chance to do something together and the knowledge that you got to have a great time together can be a great comfort.

Worst moment of my life would have been so much worse had I thought "lets do it some other time"
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So this is weird: Disney have built a test drop for the Lion King Ride. I've never seen this done for a water ride at any park (log flumes are very tried and tested) and they didn't do it for Frozen.

Some sort of new boat/ride system?
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>>2821142
I'm surprised by that one too. Looked like a cheap but good family coaster. But often parks have their outlays and additions planned 5+ years in advance of when they open, so it could take time to be worked in somewhere. Might have been a case of being too late to market with a family ride, too.

>>2821149
Are you sure it's a test drop? Something like that wouldn't be built in-park, it would be in a back lot or at a separate property altogether.
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>>2821150
They've build a bunch of test stuff for the ride, it's a weird thing to do in backstage areas
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>>2821084
He has a wife, so the latter. Last I saw him his hair looked like he got dumped in a vat of grease, I don't understand why he thinks it looks good
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>>2821116
>small drop
3 of the top 10 biggest drops are B&M coasters. And another one has B&M trains :)
Then you got Intamin with 5 (soon to be 6)
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>>2821149
>>2821152
That is strange. I know Universal built the prototype for MIB in one of the sound stages for all the testing. It was a little track on the ground with one of the ride vehicles circling it. That's the only other example I can think of.
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>>2821167
I found the video of it

https://youtu.be/FaltfjxXIa0
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>>2821167
Universal used a dune buggy hooked up to a cable and pulley system on an incline to see how fast they'd need to go for the real thing to achieve the desired forces, but that wasn't done on park property
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>>2821170
For what ride?
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>>2821172
Oops. Hulk
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>>2821125
>Try it again, anon
Okay.

Yep, you’re still wrong.
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>>2821164
Not all B&M rides are short with generic loop layouts, but the vast majority of short rides with generic loop layouts are made by B&M (or extremely old). Everyone else has left those behind.
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>>2821190
Give it another go. I haven't given up on you
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Going to Epic next Wednesday/Thursday, gonna see if this plan will hold up. Came up with it from watching the wait times through the day.
>Spend early entry on Dark Universe, Werewolf once then lap Unchained
>Line up for Berk at ~9:45, hit all the rides there while everyone rushes to the Toothless M&G
>Get lunch at around 11, probably Mead Hall since I'm already in the land. Watch Untrainable there around this time as well
>Midday tends to have the longest waits so probably just do Arcanus and look around Paris and SNW, might do the Celestial rides or the Nintendo minigames if their waits are low enough
>Lap Unchained some more if I have nothing else to do, get dinner at Pizza Moon
>Get on Ministry at ~8pm, as its waits seem to crater at that point. Either lap it or get on DK as the last ride of the night
Only thing that's completely left out are MK and Yoshi which can be done during early entry the next day. If you've got just one day then they can still be done in the big midday chunk, they'll just have pretty long waits.
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>>2821210
I would say to do either Stardust or Ministry rather than monsters for early entry because Unchained is frequently a walk-on. Ministry isn't listed as part of early entry, but they opened it during my two visits this week. Posted wait was 65 minutes when I got in line at 9:30AM today, but it was actually 20. Aside from that, it sounds like a fine plan.
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>>2821191
When has B&M made a coaster like that in recent years? Their most recent coasters are mostly family inverts, dives, the surf coaster and wing coasters. I think you’re referring to their floorless coasters which they haven’t made in many years
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>>2821194
You’re still wrong as ever.
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>>2821220
>When has B&M made a coaster like that in recent years?
See
>>2821220
>family inverts, the surf coaster and wing coasters
I won’t count the dives because they’re only 80% boreslop instead of 95%+ like the rest. The dives themselves are distinct to dive coasters even though they transition into boreslop right after them.
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/rcg/ is fighting again.
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>>2821210
do not do the Mario activities if the sun is in the sky, you will die like the niggas on the yoshi ride.
lately, epic has been claiming they will close ministry before park close (temporary signs everywhere) but it always stays open until 10, but you're results may differ.
you can do laps of unchained after 7 op 8 pm.

ultimately, I would check the forecasted UV index for the day and do indoor stuff like ministry when the UV is at it's peak. i'd rather wait in a long line indoors or fully shaded (mk, ministry, stardust, arcanus) than burn to death outside. the memes about no shade are not overblown, if the sun is high in the sky with no clouds, YOU ARE FUCKED.
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>>2821213
>Stardust early entry
Probably a good idea especially with the huge midday gap. Plus it's on the way to Berk so Werewolf and Unchained can be done before it.
>>2821240
>but it always stays open until 10
From my snooping they seem to do it Tokyo Disney style where they want you off the ride by 10, and given the low waits around that time that means it usually closes at around 9:30.
>heat
Probably another reason to stick to Unchained during the middle of the day. The minigames aren't too important but I have the band from Hollywood so might as well do them if they don't have a line.
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Alright, opinions on all HHN Orlando houses after 2-3 runthroughs, starting with the originals.
>El Artista
Legitimately one of the best houses ever at the event. Incredible set pieces, huge amounts of detail, creative costumes, good scares, a tragic story.
>Grave of Flesh
A solid house that probably could have been in a tent rather than a soundstage. Some neat, albeit repetitive, monsters and cool sets. The story is incomprehensible though.
>Dolls
A fun little house that does well playing with scale. Very high variety in costumes and some funny gags. No real wow moment though.
>Galkn
This house really should have been in a soundstage. Some setlieces scream for more space. It's still good though, with some cool costumes and an awesome finale.
>Hatchet and Chains
My second favorite house of the night. I love the Wild West setting, and the demons are pretty cool. Less family than I expected, which is nice. Really makes good use of it's limited space.
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>>2821253

>FNAF
The intro is awesome and will no doubt make plenty of fans lose their shit. I appreciate that Universal actually went all out with animatronics and puppets. That said, there's not much interesting in terms of set design outside of the intro, and the non-animatronic scares are pretty lame. Kind of worse on repeat walkthroughs, though that's kind of a good thing given how long the lines are.
>WWE
Probably the most middle-of-the-road house you can get at HHN. Nothing bad but nothing super noteworthy either. Fans of Bray Wyatt will probably love it though, and I did enjoy two of the scenes.
>Jason
Probably the 'scariest' house this year. The sets are only just okay, but the scares are relentless. The final quarter of the house is just scare after scare after scare. Going through this with wimps around you will be the highlight of the night, but if the others around you don't scare easily, it won't leave a huge impression. Also needed more part 2 Jason.
>Terrifier
Not a franchise that appeals to me, but the house was fun. The Art actors do a good job embodying the character, and there are some clever scares. The sets aren't going to wow you, but the house is long. The wet/dry thing is a total gimmick.
>Fallout
Dogshit. Imagine a house with deathclaws, supermutants, bloatflies, cazadores, ghouls, and yao guai. Now throw that all in the garbage because this based on the gay-ass TV show which has none of those (except ghouls but they still don't show up lol). 90% of the jumpscares are just normal fucking humans saying some retarded catchphrase. The sets are bad. The power armor puppet is hilariously awful in terms of movement. Probably the second worst house I've ever seen at HHN.

Overall, this is a really solid year. Every house is at least good, with several greats. Only Fallout is a blemish.
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>>2821264
Very soulful. I hope I can make it up there at some point.
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>>2821254
I'm debating whether or not I should do Jason as my first house. I've noticed when I do HHN only the first 3 houses really startle me and once I'm adapted none of the scares really register for me. I'm the asshole that just stares at the scare actor smiling giving them the thumbs up, but that kinda sucks because it's only fun when you feel the anxiety. Sounds like Jason first overall could be decently traumatizing.
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>>2821265
It’s far and away the most soulful park. The family owners build and modify a lot of the rides.
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>>2821267
If you're doing early entry, I recommend Terrifier first since it gets really busy later and Jason can be done right after. If you're not doing that, Jason first may be a good idea depending on when you get in. Just beware it is also very popular and can get huge waits.
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>>2821231
One more time
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>>2820877
We have different approaches to this.
This is not asking for the lowest rung accommodations you are making it sound, like the value resorts are not the same as going to a hostel or Shithole Motel. You have a base level of standards at a Disney resort, there are too many benefits staying at a resort for me to decide elsewhere. That is already spending up as you can get off-site cheaper.
This then becomes a debate on what you are doing bothering to travel there. If your entire vacation is around staying at a hotel, sure, make that your main expense. There are places where you are staying at the hotel for close to the entire time and going back to that might be. For Disney? You are there for the parks and experiences, not to sit at a hotel the entire week. I would much rather pay up for the better experiences, dining, and even longer experiences vs having frivolous bullshit you won't use, which after a certain point that is what amenities are.
Value resorts are also more lively, and it makes it more engaging. If you want quiet you do not go to this resort
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>2821312
You wouldn’t have to play this silly game if you didn’t try to make such a bad point in the first place. No more (you)s for you.
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anyone been to the japanese parks as a foreigner? planning on booking flights in a few months and want to hit both the disney parks and the universal park whilst im there.
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>>2821348
I accept your concession.
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>>2821264
That’s awesome. They retired the best carousel category years ago also because Knoebels always won it. Their food is also decently priced unlike park food at pretty much every other park
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>>2821264
Their food is legit great
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>>2821236
The last coaster B&M made that wasn’t a family coaster, wing coaster, surf coaster, or dive coaster was Decepticoaster in 2021 which is a clone of Hulk with modifications to some of the inversions to make them less intense. Then Monster at Grona Lund in the same year, their latest non-family invert. Their latest hypers came the year before with Candymonium and Orion (Orion being a giga.. to those counting the 300ft drop) which have no inversions. They haven’t made a generic loop short layout non-wing coaster in over a decade, they’ve been primarily pooping out dive coasters during the last ten years.
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>>2821349
Did both Disney parks and Fuji-Q last year but not Universal.
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>>2821425
did you stay on property? im probably getting an airbnb and im just hoping i can get in and out of the parks fairly easily. how did you find tokyo disneyland? not sure if it worth going since i went magic kingdom last year. disney sea looks good though what did you think?
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>>2821431
I stayed in Odaiba at the Ariake Washington. It was only $50 a night for a nice enough accomodation with a complimentary shuttle to the parks. Did one day at Land and two at Sea. I think Land is worth it unless you're pressed for time. It's got a lot of shared attractions with MK, but they are generally better versions. Sea is definitely a better use of your time though. Amazing park.
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>>2821437
what were crowds and wait times like? i thought the queue times would be shorter but i just took a quick look and the times look the same if not worse than orlando
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>>2821459
Crowds were rough, but waits honestly weren't too bad. Everything got really long waits at times, but also would drop to 45 or lower. The two longest waits at that time were also Soarin' and Midway Mania, which are both skippable. Another noteworthy thing is that Indy has the best Single Rider line of all time. You can have a 60 minute normal queue and just walk on in Single Rider. I personally recommend two days at the park so you can take your time and explore all the neat little corners around, but if you only have one day, you can still probably do most rides you want. Not sure about Fantasy Springs though, as that was in tech rehearsal at the time and I used timed passes to get on the rides.
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>>2820706
https://youtu.be/9lStWctcYgM?si=uUYrAQPYkbipm6hZ

https://youtu.be/h5p5v_nVE6M?si=m9w7f8XgfD4FLsPo
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>>2821004
Yep. We don't use the water park perk at all.
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>>2820967
WDW water parks aren't very good unless you have small kids.
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>>2821254
Jealous of you guys in Orlando. I went to HHN Hollywood on Friday and while I enjoyed myself, the constant black walls still plagues Hollywood. The Poltergeist maze legitimately felt like half the maze was black walls, such lazy bullshit.
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>>2821503
Tampa Bay Busch Gardens Howl-o-scream was voted the best Halloween. Using the talents of young energetic 19 year old from USF helps.
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>>2821013
Checked on B&M. Penguin Trek was rough AF despite being brand new. They nailed Falcons Fury, but the speakers on the trains stopped working almost immediately after opening. How fucking difficult is it to keep the speakers working?
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>>2821509
Busch Gardens Howl-o-scream is the best Halloween/ Scare House event I’ve ever been to and I’ve done them all. It doesn’t rely on IP and has to actually create real experiences. Their scare zones are higher quality than most houses…. Would HIGHLY recommend
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>>2821511
>I'd love to see regional parks that draw more from their region's first nations myths
Can you imagine the bitchfit those people would throw if parks started naming/theming rides after Indian shit? You cannot win with those retards

>>2821513
Penguin Trek is a B&M at Sea World, Falcon's Fury is a drop tower at Busch Gardens. Did you mean Iron Gwazi? Electronics on rides are a challenge, they have to survive a lot of vibration whenever they're running.
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>>2820924
Not hates, but my wife is very neutral on parks in general so any visits have to be looped into an overall trip. I’ll be able to drag her to epic in the next few years, but any “offbrand” park is hard to swing.
Haven’t got to dolly world yet, thinking I’ll head there on my own but I’m sure people will think I’m a closeted faggot for doing a solo trip there.
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>>2821521
Sorry I meant flight of the phoenix
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>>2821503
HHN Hollywood always looks so sad to me in videos. It's clearly the neglected stepchild of the event. Knott's looks better in every way.
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On today's episode of laugh at Great Adventure
Nitro had a blown lift chain and might be down for rest of the season
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>>2821568
Lift chain or lift motor/gearbox?
If it's the chain that shouldn't be more than a week
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Morbidly obese families and Brazilians who can never shut up. I am at Disney World alright. I'm happy though.
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>>2821569
apparently is motor
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>>2821529
Knotts Scary Farm is absolutely killer. I'm probably going to wait until the beginning of October to go but it shits on HHN Hollywood every time. Love getting their buffet for the event too, you get to have cool interactions with the scare-actors.
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Disney has registered domains for “Disneyland Arabia” and “Emirates Disneyland.” Both possible names for the upcoming resort in Abu Dhabi
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>>2821742
Seems like such an odd, risky venture from them. Have they learnt nothing from Euro-Disney? Investors won't pump in money if it isn't immediately successful and the parks get left to rot.
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>>2821750
It's a licensing deal, the Arabs are paying for everything.
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>>2821751
So was Eurodisney. Doesn't matter if someone else is putting their money on the line if their incompetence ends up doing a shitload of damage to your brand (see pic related).
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Chances the company shuts Euro Disney down after the ME park opens?
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>>2821752
Paris was more of a joint venture. This is a Tokyo situation where the company that owns the other Abu Dhabi theme parks is paying for the Disney name and characters.
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>>2821742
Should unironically convert Chaque du Chavelliers or Palmyra into DisneyRabia.
Syria needs a few wins, desu.
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>>2821754
0. Don't be a fucking retard.
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>>2821763
Hey, maybe they waste the $2bn they've spent on the parks and close them just after the park has started making significant profits!
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>>2821766
There are some criminally stupid people in this general sometimes. You'd think being such a small obscure general on /trv/ of all places would weed them out but no, they still make it here somehow.

Anyways, I like Animal Kingdom.
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>>2821763
The chance is greater than 0% but less than 5%
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>>2821754
Zero percent, they will not go through the humiliation of a park closing due to financials they will never hear the end of it. Plus the resort is built up already. That is also part of why you won’t see many new parks open anymore, they’d rather fill what they have
Only ones I could see shutting down are the China ones if relations get bad enough that war is happening
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>>2821772
Are you under the age of 13? Everyone knows Disney is just for kids. They don’t even have any actual rides, other than kiddie and beginner rides.
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>>2821775
True. I did take my kids to Disney though as a rite of passage. To me it goes
>children under 10 -> Disney
>tweens and early teens -> Universal
>older teens and adults -> Busch Gardens and SeaWorld
Of course there’s a lot of overlap with shows and exhibits and stuff, but as for rides I think that’s a pretty solid representation of the progression
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>>2821772
Animal kingdom at night is genuinely phenomenal, sucks that since its basically a zoo it has to operate in zoo time aka closing at 5-6pm. Which pissed me off, if busch garden can operate at night with howl o scream then AK sure as fuck can.
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Threadly list of major Disney/Universal Theme Park dates/announcements.
Florida:
>Zootopia 3D show opens at Tree of Life Theatre Nov 7
>Monsters Inc. area 2027?
> Boneyard closed now. Dinosaur closed Feb 2, 2026
>Front Tire Land replaces Tom Sawyer Island circa 2028
>Animation Courtyard rework starts Sep 26, 2025
>Liberty Belle Steamship future plans unknown, but intact as of early Sept 2025
>Big Thunder Mountain (Florida) refurb finishes in 2026 w/ Rainbow Caverns
>Walt Disney robot coming to Carousel of Progress
>Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin refurb until sometime 2026
>Disney resort guests have FREE water park admission (Typhoon Lagoon) on their check-in day in 2025.
>Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket closed
>Volcano Bay major refurb starts Oct 26, 2025

California:
>Fast and Furious roller coaster opens in Hollywood sometime in 2026
>Walt Disney animatronic show open now. Lincoln returning later.
>Mike & Sully closing 2026, becoming Avatar ride

Both:
>Millenium Falcon: Smuggler's Run gets the flight rethemed to Mandalorian May 22, 2026

Europe:
>Disney Village & Disney Adventure World (Paris) overhauls with Frozen and Mary Poppins expansion at Paris to be completed 2026
>Lion King Splash Mountain water ride at Paris Studio park, late 2027 at the earliest
>Universal UK set for 2031

Asia:
>Multi-launch Spider-man coaster at Shanghai DL, no date yet
>Spider-Man Drop Tower at Hong Kong DL, Doc Ock at some point
>Wreck-It-Ralph omnirover shooter replaces the already closed Buzz Lightyear in Tokyo by April 2026
>Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain currently closed until 2027 for complete ground-up rebuild
>Tokyo maybe razing Adventureland 2026 or later?
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>>2821781
>list of major Disney/Universal Theme Park dates/announcements
Why not include big announcements from other parks as well?
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>>2821783
Character limit.
Also, be the change you want to see in this thread.
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>>2821783
No one cares about parking lot coaster #69 at Six Flags over Guatemala
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>>2821786
People who like rollercoasters do.
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>>2821786
You sound like one of those people who was happy for Dueling Dragons to be demolished so that it could be replaced with “muh heckin Harry Potter kiddie ride ommmmmg!!!!!”
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>>2821788
Well considering Hagrid's is a massive upgrade over DD (even though it was great too), yes I was
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>>2821789
Called it
>im good
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>>2821785
I don't even know where you'd go to find that information

>>2821786
>t. scared of "the big coasters"
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>>2821786
>t.
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>>2821792
There are suprisingly few good general theme park news sites. The fact that Screamscape is one of the best is kinda sad.
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>>2821809
Yeah years ago any of the big theme park forums would have all the info. The ones that are still around are run by guys who love being mods (TPR, Coasterbuzz) so they'll never give their fiefdoms up even if they get <10 posts a day.

>Screamscape
Lol I cannot take them seriously
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https://x.com/TRHLofficial/status/1964890976583143752
Why would anyone go to Disneyland Dubai? We are going to hear a lot of stories like this in the coming years
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>>2821790
Do you really think Hagrid's is a kiddie ride? Have you actually ridden it?
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Alton Towers have announced their new 2026 ride. Not Project Horizon but a Bluey coaster.

Will probably be a kiddie coaster along the lines of the duplo coaster (but hopefully longer). Hope you've all got your plane tickets booked for the cred!
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Dubious source but The Sun are reporting that Universal secured Harry Potter rights for the UK park.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/36608058/universal-harry-potter-uk-theme-park-delay/

Given they don't want to eat into the other parks what options are there for theming. Quidditch world cup ride (the coaster next to the Jurrasic park section looked suspiciously like a riding coaster)? Chamber of Secrets? Would be criminal if it was another HP land instead of a LOTR land though.
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>>2821828
Sounds just like the sort of thing this board will go crazy for, lmao
>my kids fuckin love Bluey tho, no cap
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>>2821840
It's going to get stupidly disproportionate queues for the quality of ride. Here's hoping they put some actual effort into theming it.
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Today was an awesome day at Hollywood Studios. The sky was overcast so the heat was never a big problem. We rode everything, didn't stay for Fantasmic because we're going to get up early again tomorrow and pushing ourselves to stay from morning until close would've tuckered us out too much. We're going to catch Fantasmic later in the week on one of our days where we spend a half day and come back to the hotel for a while, and we'll go back out and catch that show. But if we were only here for one day and could sleep in tomorrow, we really had enough stamina to make ourselves stay all the way until park close, which is pretty wild for us. Not having the sun beating down on you helps a lot.
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>>2821832
I'm of the opinion that making Hogwarts just be the queue for FJ was a mistake and given that 90% of the potter story takes place in the castle, the castle should have been the entire land. It should be one gigantic mall-like structure that is the size of one of the IOA islands that fully fleshes out the interior of hogwarts. You could do demonstrations in the classrooms of wizard bullshit, the VR broom simulator they were developing, a FJ clone, etc. You just breeze through the queue now since the lines for the ride are so low and it feels like an obvious goldmine they cant mine.

That's kinda what I was hoping Epic was gonna be. I dont think there's any other film location they havent already featured.
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>>2821902
what hotel are you staying at
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>>2821908
Port Orleans French Quarter. We're really liking it. Haven't tried the beignets yet. Maybe tomorrow.
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>>2821786
Remind me when Disney wins a golden ticket award for anything other than a dark ride
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>job is sending me on another three week east coast trip
>Dorney Park Sept 19
>Knoebels Sept 20
>Hershey Sept 21
>Six Flags Great Adventure Sept 26
>Kings Dominion Sept 27
>Epic Universe Oct 4
>Sea World Oct 5
>all with company paying for hotel, rental car, food and gas
I love my job so much it’s unreal.
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>>2821924
Cosmic Rewind is pretty highly ranked.
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>>2821384
Is it really? I was only there for an hour and a half. From what I noticed they had food everywhere and it was pretty cheap. The only thing I bought was pierogies. They were just okay but they were premade so whatever. I tried to get alligator but that section was closed. What did I miss?
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>>2821932
That’s fucking amazing. Great line up too. What do you do that pays to go to theme parks?
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>>2821386
Everything you just mentioned except the dives are generic loop layout coasters (and again the dives are 80% generic loop layouts). No, Hulk having a launch and standing up does not change that. Lipstick on a pig is still a pig and a generic loop layout with a launch is still a generic loop layout.
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>>2821511
I wonder if the left knows how retarded it is that they let patriotism became associated predominantly with the GOP. Anyone not ashamed of the country is going to have a default incline to the right.
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>>2821932
Travel Agent?
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>wwwDOTfacebookDOTcomSLASHshare/v/1FuadWmMJ6/?mibextid=wwXIfr
>Dorney
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>>2821985
>>2821943
Sorry guess I phrased that confusingly. I’m not going to the parks for free, I’ll just be within 2 hours of all of them on business so I’m making use of that. Admission is all I’ll pay (and I have a gold pass so actually not even that for half of those.
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>>2821944
Orion and Candymonium don’t have any loops. I’m really not quite sure what you mean by generic loop layout anyways. Hulk is from the 90s. I wouldn’t call any of their 90s layouts “generic”. Those layouts are all intense even today. They used a lot of the same elements but when you say generic it implies they were standard. B&M inverts are still great today and their closest “competitor” was the Vekoma SLC which was the same basic cloned layout (some had a helix). The Batman invert layout was cloned several times but most of the others are unique.
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>>2821772
I want to like Animal Kingdom but there’s just not enough to do there. For a (almost) 30-year-old Disney theme park that they’ve spent billions on, it should be a lot more fleshed out by now. It’s still a half day park that closes early with barely any new attractions for most of that time. Even the stuff they’re getting is mostly retheming. It’s definitely a park hopper park, spending your entire day here is a waste.
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>>2821932
That’s a lot of coasters. Don’t sit on the dark rides though. Knoebels has the haunted house and Black Diamond. Hershey has an enclosed coaster with dark ride elements, Laff Trakk and also the factory ride at Chocolate World (outside the park). Great Adventure has Justice League which is a nice rip off of Spiderman, Dari Knight is an enclosed mouse with dark ride elements, and Houdini is amazing. Kings Dominion has Boo Blasters.. I enjoy it. Epic is self explanatory. If these are open, it’s the post-season for regional parks so who knows.
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>>2822108
needs more people eaters like an omnimover and a carousel of progress type show or two
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Would a vtuber/eceleb theme park be kino?
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>>2822119
Only if the park was a murder simulation where you could dispose of the ecelebs in all manner of fun and creative ways
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I’m thinking the $999 Six Flags all parks fast lane is worth it. Anyone have any thoughts on it? Seems like you’d need to visit about 7 parks besides your home park to get your money’s worth. Hard to see the future but I have visited a ton of parks this year.
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>>2822140
When it’s $200 and $289 or more some days, it could be worth it depending on how often you go. I took advantage of the single use fast lanes but those are only available after 2pm and not always available. They’re also priced based on demand.
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Jungle Cruise sucks and is a waste of time. The ride would be better without the skippers and their dumbass jokes that redditors cum in their pants for.
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>>2822162
Why is the Disneyland script so much better?
The WDW script is half the stupid elephant memory joke and they're completely silent in the tunnel.
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>>2822162
The ride would suck without the skippers, who are legitimately funny.
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>>2822173
Well not the one I waited 45 minutes for
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>>2822168
allegedly Disneyland skippers get more freedom in what they can say while WDW skippers are forced to read scripts. That said I still blame the skippers cause script or not you should be able to make it work.

Jungle cruise sucks anyways. Don't think I've ever had one that was LOL funny. Monsters Inc laugh floor is 100x funnier, more engaging, and rewatchable.
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>>2822179
>Monsters Inc laugh floor is 100x funnier, more engaging, and rewatchable.
100%
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What do you guys think about the Orlando theme park youtubers? I like to keep up with what's going on, but so many channels have the most obnoxious personalities...
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>>2822207
Mickeyviews is maybe the only decent one. Even though Brayden is kind of a fag his reporting is usually really reliable and he only ever posts if there's real tangible news and doesn't make gay faggy click bait bullshit. I also like 4kwdw because it's just some autist roaming around the parks with a camera not talking.
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>>2822207
I don't watch any of them
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>>2822207
I found Paging Mr. Morrow the other day and I genuinely thought he had some sort of mental retardation at first.
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>>2822207
I don’t watch them unless it’s disaster kino like the Star Wars hotel or history stuff like Defunctland. I want to enter everywhere with a completely blank slate and open mind.
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>>2822207
The only good one is /ourguy/
Theme Park Stop has decent videos but her community is insufferable
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I want to hate falcons flight but I just can’t.
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Take 2. R8, h8 and give constructive feedback. Some obvious ones I'm missing:
>Silver Dollar City
>Dollywood
>Kennywood
>Sea World
I either haven't been to those or haven't been in a while. Not going to do every single SF or CF park. Sorry.
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>>2822162
There is talk that they will rip out the Wdw version for a moana boat ride
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>>2822063
>Knoebels has the haunted house and Black Diamond.
Both are great at what they tried to do. The haunted mansion is legitimately scary (Disney had me expecting whimsy, I was shocked) and black diamond had that atmospheric creepiness. Can't wait to do them again.
>Hershey has an enclosed coaster with dark ride elements, Laff Trakk
It's unironically in my top 15. I just love it.
>and also the factory ride at Chocolate World (outside the park)
Haven't done this. I will check it out.
>Great Adventure has Justice League which is a nice rip off of Spiderman
Same with this.
>Dari Knight is an enclosed mouse with dark ride elements
Have always run out of time at the parks with this in it. Looking forward to it this time. I love the film.
>Houdini is amazing.
Completely missed this one. I will make sure to do it.
>Kings Dominion has Boo Blasters
I'll try it out.
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>>2822233
Knotts Berry Farm is max soul
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>>2822168
Marc Davis wanted the tunnel to be a quiet atmospheric space. Let that ambient eerie temple music play as you drift by tigers and snakes.
I know some skippers used to quote the Willy Wonka tunnel scene in there though.
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>>2822233
>Busch/SeaWorld not at max Jewishness
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>>2822239
Busch isn't so bad.
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Looks like Knotts Berry Farm decided to start forcing people to pay for lockers if they want to put anything away while getting on the coasters. $2 for 2 hours or $15 for all-day lockers. Looks like they completely blocked off the cubbies they had too. Fucking ridiculous.
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>>2822237
explain >>2822259
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>>2822265
If they're not free they're jewish. Simple as. If Disney and Universal can offer free lockers no excuse for this supposedly "max soul" park.
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>>2822267
Not even getting my hopes up on wait times improving. Love Knotts but operations is beyond terrible. I was going to get the season pass for next year but this locker bullshit really is making me rethink it as someone who likes to take a bag and the season cup with me.
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>>2822269
I just like using my phone in line. Makes it bearable, especially in the shitty parks like CP where the lines are just the serpentine rails outside with no shade.
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>>2821932
>show mom my theme park plans
>she wants to go to epic universe with me (she actually is a travel agent so she needs to get there eventually as part of her job)
>sends me screenshot of the flight prices - over $400
>I have 75k american airlines miles saved up and get more all the time from work
>tell her I'll use my points to get her there
>now she's going with me
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>>2822211
brayden looks like a faggy zoomer influencer but his video on the rivers of america is excellent
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>>2822207
Andrew Platt has zero personality and lots of info. He might be your guy.
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>>2822248
They've been tossed around private equity firms ever since A-B got bought out. Hell they even have a hidden surcharge on food
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>>2821511
now you see why the rivers of america is being demolished. they are catering to these asswipes
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>>2822269
You're going to see a shitload of drink bottles in the bushes going forward at knotts
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>>2822265
Lol nope, this will just increase the times as people will try and sneak shit on rather than pay for the locker. If they really cared about efficiency they'd offer two sided lockers
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>>2822207
Expedition theme park is the only one I can stand. Poseidon Entertainment was ok until he came out as a SUPER woke anti-White SJW after visiting a European theme park and calling just about everything so racist he’s going to have nightmares for the rest of his life FFS
>expedition theme park is fucking ACE tho
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>>2822280
The idea of going to a theme park with my mom is pure nightmare fuel
>always go open to close and being multiple change of clothes in my car for everytime I get soaked on water rides
The nagging, the nagging, the nagging!!!!!
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>>2822265
This is why I will never get the complaints of Hershey slow operations
I will take a little longer waiting time if that means that I can keep what I have with me and just put it in their cubbies for the few minute I am on the ride and not pay $30 for lockers each day
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>>2822398
Which euro theme park did he go to so I can add it to my list
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>>2822406
At least they have an excuse. What’s Kings Island’s excuse for constantly dispatching Orion half full despite requiring lockers?
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>>2821903
Well Warner Bros Abu Dhabi is building a Harry Potter Land.

1. It's an indoor park
2. They can't just do what Universal did again, they don't have the rights for that/maybe they want to do their own thing

So you might get your wish.

Not sure if I believe that Hogwarts is going to happen at Universal UK.
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>never rode KA or TTD
I feel like I’ll always be a virgin. TT2 is great but it isn’t TTD.
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>>2822483
>never rode TTD
>TT2 is great but it isn’t TTD
How would you know
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>>2822490
Far less acceleration.
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>>2822499
But how would you know 1 is better than 2 without having rode 1?
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>>2822506
I don’t recall saying one of them was better than the other. In fact if I had to guess I bet I would have preferred 2 due to the longer length, the backwards portion and the spike.
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>>2822508
>I don’t recall saying one of them was better than the other.
Correct; you implied it. But how would you know one version is better than the other without having been on both?
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>>2822512
I did no such thing.
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>>2822515
I just said you did. There's my proof. Where's yours?
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>>2822528
Well looks like we’re in a he said she said situation (you’re the she btw).
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Is Epic worth it right now? My mom says one of her travel agent friends is there right now and she says it sucks. Lines too long and they keep breaking. According to queue-times.com though that’s not true.
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>>2822399
I had similar problems but I sidestepped them carefully.
1. If she wanted to rope drop at 7 AM she could, but I wouldn’t join her.
2. If we needed to split up to ride different things we did (didn’t happen much).
Overall it was great. A little compromise or “no deals” here and there.
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I was in Epcot today and the girls who work in the Norway pavilion are so beautiful it hurts.
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>>2822499
I’ve ridden both several times. TT2 is better than TTD. The only part of the original acceleration that mattered was the initial “gut punch” which you can also still get on Storm Runner and Xcelerator. They accelerate from 0 at the same rate as TTD. And the anticipation of that gut punch which made a lot of people nervous. But like other launches you got used to the gut punch after a few rides and it not longer was a gut punch (but it was of course still really fun). Going backwards at 101mph up and down the spike and then getting a boost to 120mph is a much better ride experience than the original. Especially in the front row if you’re lucky to get it. I always used to enjoy watching it fly down the launch track and up the top hat and now’s it’s even more fun to watch it fly up and down the spike then fly forward up the top hat. TT2 does sometimes have a vibration issue toward the back. I dunno what causes it because I’ve ridden the same seat in the same color train on different days and it barely vibrated the second time. Front row doesn’t vibrate but you can hear the fiberglass shell against the air resistance
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>>2822573
If it’s similar to Xcelerator and Storm Runner then I guess I feel better about it. Those rides are far slower though aren’t they? Was it really the same?
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>>2822269
I switched to the drink pass (paper cup) instead of the reusable cup because they don’t let you bring the cup on many coasters chain-wide.
>>2822270
Unless they have metal detectors, a phone is considered “secure” if it’s in a zipper or cargo pocket. Most people just put it in their pocket and nobody checks it. Unless Knott’s is different. The three Cedar Point coasters with metal detectors have free small lockers for phones and keys and what not. If Knott’s has metal detectors and paid lockers I don’t expect that to last very long. It makes it an up charge attraction
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>>2822573
>>2822574
I believe Maxx Force accelerates faster than Dragster did
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>>2822574
They accelerate at the same rate from 0 but TTD and Ka kept going down their longer launch tracks. The initial gut punch or kick from 0 is the same on all of them but some thoosies like to claim one of them is the best over the others. You definitely felt the sense of speed from continuing to accelerate on the sratas but now you’re feeling the sense of speed 100+ mph for much longer on TT2. It the gut punch that is missed, not so much the continued acceleration.
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>>2822577
It does. I’ve never been on it. But some thoosies say it doesn’t “feel” the same as the hydraulic launches, implying the hydraulic felt faster even though on paper that doesn’t make sense to me. Maybe somebody here who has been on both can chime in. I don’t see anybody arguing that about Do-Dodonpa though, everybody who rode that said it was a true gut punch. On ride forces the hydraulic launch forces aren’t constant acceleration, they go up and down in a very small amount of time that I never noticed but others claim they did. Something to do with the cable. The only air launch I’ve done is Powder Keg which was very tame
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Can't wait to ride Tron after seeing Ares, will be gigakino.

>>2822570
I wouldn't pay day ticket price for Epic. AP, sure.
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>>2822572
>live in the gibs capital of the world
>still want to be wagies in florida
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>>2822581
Cool. Guess I’m not missing too much then.
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>>2822583
They don’t even offer APs for epic yet.
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>>2822577
On paper Stealth is the current champion for acceleration. Day to day it's been measured slightly behind so it's either aged out of the record or they don't run it at full power.
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>>2822572
Yep

>dat thicc girl on the right
>dat Heidi Klum looking girl in the sun dress

Florida Sun must be murder on Scandinavian skin though.
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>>2822655
I pretty sure it never even reaches the speed they post on the updated sign. ETR also mentioned that Kingda Ka and TTD also always launched to lower top speeds than advertised.
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Universal UK may have an official name announced soon. They've just registered a trademark for... Universal United Kingdom Resort

Big news!
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>>2822570
I'm the guy from >>2821210, I would say it's worth it, you can easily avoid long lines if you know when to get in line (except for DK). Only ride I didn't do was Fyre Drill by choice and I even got to do multiple rerides on Stardust and Ministry.
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>>2822655
>>2822664
Stealth’s on paper stats are definitely wrong. On the ride forces database, Stealth’s longitudinal forces show that it accelerates slower than Xcelerator, Storm Runner, Ka, Dragster, and Maxx Force plus it peaks just under 2 Gs while Xcelerator and Storm Runner peak at (and slightly over) 2 Gs. The graph for Xcelerator and Storm Runner show they accelerate slightly faster than Ka or Dragster and Storm Runner is similar if not a teeny tiny bit better. If the data is accurate, I’d give the win to Maxx Force and call Thorpe fucking liars.
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>>2822719
Meant to say Maxx Force is similar if not a teeny tiny bit better, not Storm Runner. It’s the current king of launch coasters. Too bad it’s likely down for the season. Those thoosies who think it’s weaker than hydraulic are probably just used to the launch forces. Launches used to make my stomach tickle, especially the punchier launches. Now they all kinda feel similar even the remaining hydraulics (I haven’t been on Maxx Force). I still like the punchier launches for the Gs. Intamin’s are the best magnetic launches IMO
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Any good parks near Chicago besides SFGAm?
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>>2822741
Cedar Point is only like 5 hours away
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>>2822756
I can only go on weekends and that park is honestly trash on weekends even with fast lane, which costs $200.
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>>2822771
Damn. Did not know that. I’ve been wanting to go but didn’t know it was $200 for a fast pass. How are you supposed to ride all of the rides if you’re only there for a day…
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>>2820706
What do you guys consider a decent budget for a day out at a park?
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>>2822773
With a fast pass or possibly on weekdays. I think fast passes are cheaper on weekdays too. Even their fast pass lines tended to be 30 minutes or more for some rides on the Saturday I went. Their merges often come very early.
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>>2822775
I’ve done $0 before. Season pass with free parking, no merchandise and I brought my own food. For me it’s just no unnecessary purchases. Only get fast lane if necessary. Only get food if necessary, bringing it in if possible.
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>>2822773
$300. It was $290 two weeks ago during Labor Day weekend on Sunday (which was also their busiest day so far in 2025). I didn’t buy it, but I did opt for individual fast lanes which totaled up to $100. Except Siren’s Curse, I used my 1x FL I get with my pass. They wanted $40 for it!
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for a 4 night stay at cedar point, is hotel breakers / lighthouse point really worth the $800 extra over the express hotel?
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As an Indiana Jones fan I'm happy they're giving him a ride in Animal Kingdom, I don't give a fuck what all the fags say about it "not fitting". I don't have any ill will towards Dinosaurbros though. It's a nice ride as it is.

But the show in Hollywood studios is really rough nowadays. I don't know if it was just an off-day or something but they didn't even properly use the cairo set last time I saw it. They just did a bunch of mildly impressive acrobatics on the floormat. Also, am I crazy? I thought I remembered that at the very beginning, Indy would crash in from way up above on a rope.
Personally, I'd nix the multi-set thing and make just one really detailed static set. Cut out all the cringe dated fake filmmaking parts. I know that people may argue that this show is one of the last remnants of classic Hollywood Studios, but I'd rather it be good and increase its longevity than it be true to something that doesn't exist anymore.
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>>2822793
>But the show in Hollywood studios is really rough nowadays. I don't know if it was just an off-day or something but they didn't even properly use the cairo set last time I saw it. They just did a bunch of mildly impressive acrobatics on the floormat.
That happened when I saw it. It had been raining that day and they told us that the show would be altered for the safety of the performers.
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>>2822793
They did all the stuff when I saw it.
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Do you think Disney regrets destroying Splash Mountain? The Tiana ride is so much worse and everyone knows it.
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>>2822801
If not now they'll regret it later. The fact that it's still Splash Mountain everywhere else is also pretty retarded.
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>>2822787
Right now or during the summer? The location can’t be beat no matter the season but I don’t know if it’s $200 extra a night great to you. For me it can be and it absolutely is during the summer because of the beach. Thoosies don’t care about the beach though. Or the pools (pools are closed for the season). Or the Starbucks and chain restaurants. So it’s just a hotel connected to Cedar Point with similar rooms to Express. But being able to just walk into Cedar Point is pretty great and saves you from walking to your car and waiting to leave. Not an issue if you leave early but if you leave when they close it could take you an hour or more to get out depending on where you’re stuck.
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>>2822793
I just think it’s funny that they made a clone of Indy’s layout (well 95% a clone) and ride system but filled it with dinosaurs and parts of dinosaurs in the dark and now 30 years later it’s going to be gutted and turned into Indy. Should have been Indy from the start even if out of place (but they didn’t do that back then)
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>>2822819
Just Tokyo right?
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>>2822839
I thought it was also still in Paris for whatever reason
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>>2822831
>but if you leave when they close it could take you an hour or more to get out depending on where you’re stuck.
welp hotel breakers it is!
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>>2822848
Paris never got it. That's why they're getting Lion King now.
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>>2822860
I was gonna say $200 a night for a room in/ next to a park isn’t bad. Esp if it saves you an hour stuck in traffic. I stopped at a red roof inn owned by poos the other night on the side of the interstate in bum duck nowhere the other week and it was $120 with taxes and poojeet fees
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>>2822888
>traffic
>in rural ohio
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>>2822907
see >>2822831
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>>2822921
see
>>2822907
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>>2822793
Well "animals" is a big enough theme that it can be applied to almost any franchise that needs a new ride, unlike "california".
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>>2822777
You can't really say it's $0 if you already spent a thousand bucks on a season ticket
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Team Fortress 2 Theme Park:
RIDES AND ATTRACTIONS
Hightower drop tower
Mann vs Machine interactive shooting dark ride hosted by the Engineer
Medieval Mode flying theater dark ride that is a pseudo-historical edutainment parody
Demoknight stunt show
Pyroland dark ride
Pyroland merry-go-round
Pyroland stunt show
Scout rollercoaster
Rocket Jumping rollercoaster
Bumper Cars hosted by Scout
Laser Tag/Maze hosted by The Administrator

FOOD, BEVERAGES
Scout's soda and sweet shop
Sniper's Outback Barbecue
Spy's Parisian Cafe
Medic's Oktoberfest Beer Hall

Mann Co Gift shop
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>>2822949
>there will never be a valve land
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>>2822925
So you’re saying they’re lying? Interesting. What’s the point of lying on an anonymous Cambodian prostate massage interest group forum?
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>>2822801
I bet that, at the very least, the OLC guys still laugh about when they go for a drink.
>>2822819
Monsters Unchained is fucking awesome. Highlight of the park along with Stardust based on my recent trip.
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>>2822990
To be fair I'm not sure replacing the Jungle Cruise with Incredibles is any less laughable.
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>>2822998
Oh, I'm no fan of OLC's Adventureland plans, but at least the Incredibles are a marketable brand. OLC is seeing dollar signs there. Tiana is an unpopular princess from a movie that flopped who doesn't sell merch or resonate with the majority of Disney's clientele. Anyone business-minded could see she was a terrible replacement for Splash, but the American execs care more about social agenda than money.
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>>2822968
>>2822949
ALSO:
Heavy's Sandvich Zone

Chaos at Engineer's Workshop dark ride.
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>>2822793
The scene transitions are just way too slow which really hurts it. Unfortunately it would probably be not much more to replace it completely than retool it so any work done on it may be a monkey paw.

You don't want something like the Alice in Wonderland show from Paris where they forced a really weird show into a stage that was way too big for what they could put on.
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>>2822946
>a thousand bucks
It’s more than two orders of magnitude less than that actually. Six Flags charges $100 for 17 months of parking and entry to their parks. Divide that by their 42 parks and it’s about $2.40 per park for 17 months, or less than $2 per year.
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>>2822860
Good choice
>>2822907
Once you’re out of the causeway it’s fine. The Express hotel is right at the entrance to the causeway. It’s getting out that’s the problem. As I said above, if you leave on a busy day when the park closes (like during Halloweekends) you can get stuck getting out of the lot depending on where you’re parked. Sometimes for up to two hours if you’re really unlucky. Being able to just walk to your room (a shorter walk than walking to the lot) is the best perk.
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>>2822984
If you’re wrong you have no choice but to lie. Comes with the territory of being wrong.
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>>2823058
Dang, that's cheap
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Oh no, he who must not be named is going to have a field day with the announcement today...
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>>2823077
Yeah no wonder they’re bankrupt. $2 for parking and admission for more than a fucking year.
>hurrrrr why are we losing money
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>>2823086
Oh look we got ourselves an executive here
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>>2823090
I’m not an executive but the game is buy for a dollar, sell for two. Six Flags is buy for millions, give away for free.
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>>2823100
Apparently they don't know that. You should put your resume in for a VP position. You'll be CEO quickly.
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Mario Galaxy. Looks like Universal could be making an event for it.
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>>2823113
The prophecy...
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>>2823116
I suspected Universal was going to do this since they had the Rosalina prepared and already covered Yoshi preemptively.

The movies do have a role in what they plan for their parks.
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Luigi’s mansion. Is it real? Or is it scrapped?
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>>2823123
Universal never do anything that catches people off-guard, shit always leaks 6months or so before any announcements or construction. Luigi's mansion was a very early, very vague rumour and nothing has been heard in a long time. Only new attraction with solid rumours at the moment is them building a theatre.

At the moment, creature from the Black Lagoon, Wicked and Zelda are still the most likely things from Universal, possibly across more than one park. Epic Universe is in desperate need of a "15 minutes+ in the Air Conditioning with the whole family" ride though. An omni-mover, a proper water ride and a tamer family coaster with dark ride elements (7dwarves but a bit longer) would do wonders to balance out the park a bit more and ease up the queues.
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>>2822835
If it wasn't for the fact there's no way of getting the capacity up to what would be needed, I'm sure they'd import Raging Spirits/Indiana Jones from Tokyo/Paris . Ultra low footprint and weirdly popular at both parks for a shitty Pinfari.
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>>2822949
>>2822968
A video game IP park would be killer. But if you made a Valve game theme park ride, priority #1 has to be a Portal "Rise of the Resistance". It's just BEGGING for a trackless ride with personality cores operating your vehicle and providing unique commentary. BEGGING for a room-sized GladOS animatronic.
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>>2823142
i think all of there IPs would work a theme park except for like CS and maybe dota but admittedly i dont know anything about dota. L4D could have some cool dark rides, you could have a cool hulk style half life coaster and you could do something deadlock aswell it has a cool aesthetic that would lend well to a park
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>>2823142
Portal dining options:
Cake
Potato
Beverages themed after the different mobility gels.
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>>2823123
I tried Dark Moon. It was boring. Idk I prefer doing things. And no wandering around looking for something to do doesn’t count. Neither does answering a cell phone every two minutes.
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>>2823120
Imagine if the Rosalina ride tried to tug at the heartstrings the way her backstory did in Mario Galaxy 1.

The first theme park ride with emotional depth! Groundbreaking stuff.
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>>2823155
Also lemonade! Cave Johnson talks about lemons. Almost forgot.
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>>2822140
>>2822155
I think I’m gonna do it. I see myself going to no less than 3 SF parks for the rest of the year (4 if I can get to LA) and at least 12 SF/CF parks next year. I would only need 5 visits to premium parks for that to be worth it, plus even ghost towns like Great Adventure and Over Georgia have a few rides with significant lines.

On the other hand I think I won’t get the $400 Sea World annual pass. I would need 6 visits for that to save any money. True I plan on visiting both Busches and SW Orlando in the next few weeks, but what after that? I don’t like much at BGT besides Iron Gwazi and BGW is so out of the way. I’d be up to do Sea World another time and maybe BGW but that’s it. Then again, it comes with 12 guest passes and that could make it worth it.
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>>2823168
youre on a website designed to discuss cartoons
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>>2823168
Rollercoasters aren’t just for kids. I don’t understand the Disney adults but don’t lump us in with them
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>thoosie desperately trying to convince himself that's he's more mature than disney normies episode #10857
yawn
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>>2823189
Not just more mature. Also better than
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>>2822999
It's not even that no one cares about Tiana. No one cared about Song of the South either. It's just that the concept for the Tiana ride is boring. Splash Mountain told a story. If there was an actual Tiana story then maybe it would be okay.
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>>2823217
This ride fucking sucks and it has an hour wait because Animal Kingdom literally has six rides.
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>>2823230
Splash Mountain was also really funny.
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>>2823157
Anon, it’s a theme park ride.
They will have a dumb story about space to do a space attraction.
>>2823139
You mean a dynamic Omni-mover like the figment ride.
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>>2823230
I still find it funny that at some point they recognised that the original story for Tiana was stupid, hard to follow and out of character and replaced it with an ultra basic one. I don't get why Disney hate book report rides, especially given the villain was the best part of the film.

At least they've confirmed Dr Facilier is going to be part of villains land
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>>2823232
This anon does not know the way of water.
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>>2823305
No
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more kino from /ourguy/ dropped
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>>2823232
Flight of Passage also sucks. The only good ride at AK is Everest. The bird show is cool too. The safari has always been a disappointment. And there is nothing else to do aside from these and Dinosaur which is on the way out and also sucks, yes it sucks. It always sucked. Deal with it faggots. Waste of a theme park
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>>2823197
I got in line for TT2 a few mins after it opened during the tail end of early entry last month. It was like a 30 min queue. About 10 mins in they opened the Fast Lane and I watched this single rider probably in his 60s go through the fast lane 3x before I even got to ride. It was a good advertisement for fast lane. Anyways, I wonder if that’s him.
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>>2823100
It’s a limited promo and ends tomorrow at midnight. They extended it once and they might extend it again, it does seem to be selling quite good. But it will end and they won’t include all parks, that will be a separate charge. The price will also go up and continue to go up until next August. I don’t think they’re making the wisest financial choices but to offset it they started charging for haunt mazes at legacy Cedar Fair parks and even though everybody is bitching they keep raising the price of the season pass add on (and at some parks the express option sold out). They also charge you $20 for a fucking high noon. Tall boy but still. If you don’t drink you won’t care but if you want a beer they’re a couple bucks more than even stadium prices. The food is also $18 a meal and steers you into buying a meal plan. And they have games and all sorts of ways to make money off families (which I have given them lots of over the years). And of course there is Fast Lane and now they sell them individually per-ride. If you’re an autistic thoosie who drinks water and doesn’t eat and doesn’t buy merch and doesn’t do haunt mazes, they definitely lose money on you
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>>2823277
Mix of the Little Mermaid book report ride coming out kinda mid and Imagineering being really insecure of having to be stuck making IP slop. Like I remember Runaway Railway marketing having the design team putting a huge emphasis on it being a new story with a new park-original song and shilling the merch bird as an Imagineering OC.
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>>2823329
If you think Dinosaur sucks you have a small retarded brain. Before it was allowed to fall to ruin it was dramatically ahead of its time and wouldn't look out of place at Epic Universe
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>>2823358
I first rode Indy at Disneyland in 1997. It was two years old at the time and most of the effects still worked. It was amazing, by far the best dark I had ever been on. A few months later I rode Countdown to Extinction and it sucked. It was new and everything worked and it wasn’t good despite being the same ride system and general layout. I was 18 at the time (yes I’m old) so I don’t have any nostalgic childhood memories. I think it improved when they made it into Dinosaur, they toned down some of the aggressive movement to lower the height requirement and I think they added some things (I don’t remember the carnotaurus head coming at you at the very end before this). Better but still not good. I’m not going to miss it unless I happen to go the DAK before Indy opens.. because without it there is even less to do
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>>2823356
How is that bad?
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It would be really nice if just once, I could get through an omnimover ride without the ride coming to a stop to load in some fat fuck from their scooter.
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>>2823451
Also the Hatbox Ghost does not belong in the part of the ride they stuck him in. It's supposed to be a huge thing when you actually start seeing the ghosts.
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>>2823452
Unfortunately nobody seems to care. It’s kinda like how they ruined Epcot but everybody and their kids like and prefer the ruined Epcot which encourages Disney to do more stupid shit pissing off the old timers while the new fans and GP don’t care or even prefer it
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>>2823453
It was clearly such a stupid idea to pop the Disney adults at the expense of the ride. It builds up so well to finally revealing the ghosts, but now it's ruined. I fucking hate Disney's leadership now. At least this one could be fixed easily by just removing it. They spent so much money destroying Splash Mountain and that's not so easy a fix.
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>>2823453
80s EPCOT was a failed concept that itself was nothing like Walt intended EPCOT to be
The only thing that is not still around from the EPCOT Center days that should still be is Imagination v1 and MAYBE Horizons (that being a maybe)
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>>2823459
I agree. Epcot was a boring edutainment park that was still peak Disney imagineering with multiple dark rides like Pirates and Mansion but telling mostly boring stories. Imagination and Horizons were the best of them but for some reason they replaced Imagination with an inferior attraction and Spaceship Earth still exists (with its own fantasy). To be honest I think modern ruined Epcot is a better overall park for everybody. Especially kids now, they’re no longer bored to tears and the festivals add something else to do in addition to adults drinking and eating around the world. It’s a failed park, it’s a mess, I hate them for it, but it’s my favorite
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>>2823463
I meant spaceship earth still exist with its own fan base, not fantasy (phone posting)
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>>2823459
The permanent World's Fair idea does have some roots in discussions Walt had with Rolly on ideas for the Florida property, but he certainly wouldn't have wanted it to be branded as Epcot.
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>>2823451
Go to Tokyo my friend. Not a fatass in sight. Old people are all still healthy enough to walk. Kids in tiny umbrella strollers rather than tanks. Absolute bliss.
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>>2823592
I'm going early November, I'm looking forward to it. Can't wait to finally check out DisneySea (even if two of their biggest rides are closed for refurbs)
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Permits in for work on the entirety of Lost Continent in IoA, doesn't explicitly say demolition but seems very likely given it's covering the entire land. Guessing we'll some more solid rumours soon now that people will be watching like a hawk for manufacturers and studio figures. Probably Zelda though.
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>>2823592
How much does not knowing Japanese inhibit you
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>>2823660
>>2823592
Meaning for Disney stuff
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I think the idea of a split stay is where Disney adults cross the line. Changing hotels during your trip seems fucking crazy to me.
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>>2823660
Not much. Almost all signage is in English. The attractions are usually Japanese, but most of them are either the same as their US counterparts, book reports, or have stories simple enough to understand anyway. I've heard some of the shows aren't great for English speakers, but we didn't do any aside from Country Bears.
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>>2823685
I wish they would have English days. I want to hear Splash Mountain in English.
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>>2823676
I would like seeing another hotel but damn do I hate packing. Does anyone just spend a day driving around to the different hotels? Seems like you don't need to stay in them to appreciate them.
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Why is Mine Cart Madness not open. Is this a permanent thing?
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>>2823711
Used to be a thing, monorail bar crawl. Disney clamped down on it though.

You tend not to get any of that sort of thing any more as the price and crowds put a load of pressure for you to get the most out of the holiday.
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>>2822990
It really was. Kinda wish the line was longer so I had time to look at all the stuff in the castle. I got invested in all of those characters in the quick time of the ride. It would be great if they put out a comic or something involving everyone. Should've spent more time in Dark Universe, hope they add more.
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christopher nolan toured universal orlando last year.
the lost continent is getting ripped out.
island of adventure is literature themed.

The Odyssey confirmed for IoA
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>>2823763
Has there ever been an actually good adaption of the Odyssey before? I don't even like Nolan but if he pulled this off I will kneel.
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>>2823767
People seem to really like the musical one
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>>2823763
Bravo
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We spent our Disney World trip doing one park per day for four days, but on the last day, we totally took advantage of the park hopping and started in Magic Kingdom and rode some of our favorites again, then we took the monorail to Epcot for some more favorites, and then took the Skyliner to Hollywood Studios, and ended our vacation by watching Fantasmic. It was actually a really fun day. The only problem is that Disney lines are so long, especially on a Friday evening, so you don't get to do as many things as you might want, but if you can accept that then it was a really fun time.
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>>2823794
Did you take advantage of the low tier fast passes? As well as line times on the app? Don't think I needed to wait more than an hour for anything but Slinky Dog (barely), Rise, Guardians and Tron, and none of those were more than 1 hour 15 minutes.
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>>2823797
We didn't use the Lightning Lanes on our trip, but with careful planning we were able to avoid the longest lines during most of our trip. But for a park hopping day you're never going to be super optimized, and avoiding the longest lines means going to the park during early admission. But if you show up to Hollywood Studios on a Friday night, you could be looking at a 70 minute wait for Toy Story Mania.
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>>2823767
The Armand Assante mini-series is really good.
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Soarin' in the top row of the middle section is seriously one of the best rides in the world. I wish they had more theaters so they could only put people in the middle row and not blow up the wait time.
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>>2823873
Soarin' is a great ride and I won't hear a word against it. The only downside is the RNG of which seat you get, but it's a classic Disney ride and is MAX level comfy.
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>>2823909
Is soaring the same thing they have at Navy Pier in Chicago?
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>>2823909
If a ride is good or bad depending on where you sit, it is not a good ride. I liked the OG Soarin', but the warping issue in the new film is frankly unacceptable in park like Disney.
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>>2823916
I never rode the California version, but I've heard people say that that version didn't suffer from the warping that the new version has. That's weird to me and I wonder what's the reason.
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Some thoughts from my trip to Epic and BGT:
>Berk far exceeded my expectations with how many animatronics it has out in the open. Untrainable Dragon might be the best theme park show I've seen.
>Ministry is very screen heavy but its ride system is super impressive. Monsters still beats it out for me
>Stardust Racers is the only coaster that was so good I immediately went back in line after my first ride. Absolute kino. I think I prefer front yellow the best out of all the seats.
>Donkey Kong sorta sucks and I wouldn't be surprised if it's the first ride to be removed.
>Iron Gwazi is a great coaster but definitely overhyped, though maybe I was just spoiled by Stardust the previous day.
>Montu in the back row absolutely pummels you with g-forces and makes for a great one-two punch with IG.
>The animal exhibits and train ride at BGT are surprisingly enjoyable.
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>>2823946
BGT is my favourite park in the world and I fly all the way from Aberdeen, UK to visit. When we do our Florida trips we usually do: 1. Seaworld, 2. Universal (haven’t been this Epic yet but we always get fast pass and do both parks in a day), and 3. Save the best for last, Bush Gardens. My wife is fucking OBSESSED with Cheetah Hunt
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>>2823996
Do you usually stay in Tampa or Orlando?
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>>2823997
Orlando. We like the portofino or the hard rock at Universal and use that as our base. We’ll get a cheap hotel next to BG for our day there then drive back
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>>2823999
Call me a nerd or whatever but I really like stopping at the dinosaur park on the way when there’s time.
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>>2823999
Frankly there's more to do in Orlando for vacationers, makes sense

Do you ever do anything like Cape Canaveral, airboat tours, the beach, or any of the more minor tourist stuff?
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>>2824003
Honestly, we go to Crystal River for the manatees if it’s winter, and we go to Ocala for the springs if it’s summer. Nature in Florida, if you know where to go, is in fucking real
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>>2823996
IMO BGT is a one coaster park (you know which one). I really have no memory of cheetah hunt being anything but mid. I’m riding it again soon so I’ll be able to confirm this.
>>2824008
Looks like idyllic but the wildlife puts a damper on it. I like going in water and not wondering if there’s a fucking alligator in it.
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>>2824011
There's plenty of wildlife that won't kill you too, like the fucking huge orb weaver spiders that have giant webs to walk into. Perfectly harmless to humans
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>>2823939
It technically did suffer from the same warping, but it was largely nature/landscape shots, so it wasn't nearly as noticeable as, for example, the Eiffel Tower scene.
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someone robbed a restaurant in disney springs and swam away in scuba gear

https://www.wftv.com/news/local/scuba-clad-man-robs-disney-springs-restaurant-swims-away/OK52RUCLAZFMNAHRBXR5OD7SVY/
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>>2823168
I thought twitter was full of retards, this is a fucking asylum.
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>>2824081
Here we just pretend to be retards.
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>>2824011
Checked. Gators won’t mess with you though unless you’re a child or old/ handicapped. They’re ambush preditors and lazy AF. It’s not worth the effort for them if you look like you could put up a fight. Crocodiles on the other hand, they’ll fuck you up. They’re growing in numbers in Florida but as far as I’m aware they stick to the coasts. They haven’t made it
to the swamps yet
>t. Have swum around alligators all my life
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>>2824188
Not to mention that these springs have very clear water, making it easy to see any approaching danger. Hell, the place I used to swim had park workers in kayaks patrolling the river. If they saw any alligators get too close to the swimming section, they'd shut it down. The danger comes from murkier water. Don't let your kids wade in water you can't see in like those dumbasses at Disney a few years back.
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>>2823412
It means the autismo that single handedly ruined this general for like 4 months might end up being correct. Especially if the Lost Continent revamp is Zelda
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>>2824198
Ticks me off that you (and characters like Goofy) can't waterski on the seven seas lagoon anymore.
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>River Adventure closing for 10 months

I dont want to get my hopes up but a full remaster with new animatronics and scenes is so desperately needed. If they theme it to rebirth I will January 6th the visitor's center
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>>2824216
California can keep their World-themed river ride.
Florida just needs some love and care to the existing robots and effects.
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>>2824217
I dont think the robots can be fixed and would prefer if they just replaced them all with better versions. I'm not one of those people with nostalgia goggles that demands everything stay the same forever. Is anyone sad over the original spiderman ride video being changed?

I'd also be fine with them completely overhauling all of the show scenes and changing a lot as long as the spirit of it stays the same and they dont cheap out and replace animatronics with screens. Just keep the theme set to the original movies.

They've revamped Pirates and Mansion so many times and River Adventure is as timeless as those.
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>>2824216
Is it really needed? I rode it for the first time a month ago and thought it was great.
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>>2824216
This is very good news.
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>>2824225
You only think that because you rode it for the first time a month ago and don't realize how many dinosaurs are broken.
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>>2824225
You didnt notice the special needs velociraptor with her lower jaw jutting 45 degrees to the right and her arms stuck to her neck like a retard?
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>>2824211
how do you know the guy in the pictures is the guy shitting up the thread?
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>>2824235
What are the odds that there exists two individuals that live in Orlando and maintain autistic hyperfixations on both Rosalina and Universal Studios?
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>>2824221
What's the over/under of the falling jeep effect working again?
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>>2824230
No but I’m not very observant.
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>>2824243
Wrong park. Orlando never had that effect and instead had a metal velociraptor cage drop over the vehicle which still works. Orlando always had the worse version of the ride even if the drop was slightly taller. It's a shame they didn't put it in Studios like they planned with the original vision. A lot of the plans for the ride got scrapped when they transferred the idea to IoA because they initially planned to retrofit the removed concepts into a separate jeep ride that never got built where Kong is now. There was gonna be a whole indoor portion based on the Aviary scene in the first book, for example along with way more velociraptor attacks.
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This time next year, what do you expect Epic Universe lines to be like?
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>>2824216
USJ's version had a similarly long refurb a few years ago. Not expecting huge changes
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>>2824272
I spoke to a security officer when I was there last week and he said that the park was still not at its full capacity and was being limited to 15k out of a possible 35k. At some point APs will be allowed to add the park to their passes so I wouldn't expect it to be all that different, if not worse.

The last few hours or so when I was there the overwhelming bulk of attendees left in the late afternoon and from like 6-10 the lines dropped dramatically. Most people with express had already burned all their uses also. Only minecart madness kept its line but that ride is just fucked by design and isn't even that good. Ministry was a 10 minute walk on for a full hour and I rode it twice back to back. If you are local to florida I would say it's worth doing on a sunday right now before the holiday season starts as it's the least attended day for some reason.
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>>2823873
Everything about Soarin' at Epcot is uplifting (fitting). I feel good coming off that ride more than any other.
Despite normally having total apathy or disdain for Patrick Warburton the safety spiel is perfectly done
The lighting and mood waiting for launch is so cozy.
And I never hear people clap more at the end of the ride than they do at Soarin'

I suppose you could say the queue is boring and just playing geography trivia but it's still fun.
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>>2824320
When I say Epic's main issue is capacity this is what I mean. For comparison, Animal Kingdom got an average of 24k guests per day in 2023 while SeaWorld got 11k.
Monsters is really the only ride currently running at an acceptable capacity for typical Orlando crowds. Stardust is improving but still has slower dispatches than Velocicoaster, and Ministry is highly dependent on if the ride has a good day or not breakdown-wise.
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>>2824329
I dont think it's ever gonna be a normal park. The way it funnels people into dead end areas before sending them back out through the same entrance is always gonna have a cramped vibe to it that the other parks wont have.

Doesnt help that there's a severe lack of open spaces off to the side where you can sit and get away from the pathways. Studios and especially Islands have extensive searing areas around their respective bodies of water where families can recuperate, get away from the crowds, eat, and plan things out. Epic seems to want you to stay on your feet all day so everyone is out on the paths and it feels very crowded even with small crowds. They need to overhaul celestial to be a more stationary experience, but they designed it to be walked through and "seen" because it's so damn pretty. Well not every guest is a couple in their 20s that wants to put in 30k steps. It's normal for families (the PRIMARY theme park audience) to want to sit down for a while to look at the map or show times.

I think Epic will not be able to be allowed its peak theoretical capacity until it has its expansion or celestial gets revamped in a way that makes people want to stay in it. I cannot imagine how miserable that park would be with 20k more people in it.
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>>2824320
I’m going to do it this Sunday so I hope you’re right. Sounds like luck of the draw though. I’ve heard some horror stories.
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>>2824343
When I was there I was pretty lucky with every ride being up for the majority of the day. Only stardust was down in the morning and they got it up before noon. Also only one of the Monsters Unchained animatronics was down.

My advice is to pace yourself and make sure you can stay till park close. The middle of the day is a good time to do Minecart Madness while everyone else is eating lunch. The line is gonna suck dick but it's pretty much non-negotiable if you want to do it without express. Get a coffee and go nuts for the last 3-4 hours because wait times drop to walk on. Curse of the WW goes from a 5/10 to a 7/10 at night.

If you wanna rope drop, rope drop HTTYD stuff because by the time you get into the park, minecart, ministry, and Mario will all be bombarded. Crowds from there go to HTTYD when they get off their respective rides. Oh and I'd recommend bringing a water bottle that collapses because it's the hottest park I have ever been to. The no shade comments are not joking and the concrete just bakes you.


>>2824273
USJ's isnt falling apart like Island's is. It also isn't the flagship resort.
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>>2824320
I went on a Wednesday and it felt super crowded. In a year I can't see that cramped feeling working out in the park's favor. I spent a day there and felt like I'd seen everything the park had to offer. Compared to doing a park hopper at Universal and Island of Adventure it doesn't feel like you're getting your money's worth. More shows or areas that make it feel like am experience would be better. Le Cirque Arcanus was a very fun surprise. Didn't see Untrainable Dragon but I hear good things. The Dark Universe needs a similar show or something else really bad. So far Harry Potter seems like the only fully thought out area for a older audience which is a shame but expected.
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>>2824055
Wonder if he'll strike again.
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>>2824466
>mysterynigga.png
kek
what did he even rob for it to be worth such a bizarre heist?
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>>2824454
>Dark Universe needs a similar show
Its about time universal digs up the corpse of Beetlejuice's Graveyard Revue
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Dollywood confirming indoor rocking boat coaster
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>>2824454
They opted to swap the planned Dark Universe show for a spinning coaster so I doubt a show is coming there. A show is allegedly being built in Celestial relatively soon so that should help, but realistically I don't see this issue being solved until there's another portal or major E-ticket unless attendance drops off dramatically in 2 years once everyone that intends to visit has done so and APs have the magic wear off and it becomes just a normal park to them.
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I remember initially when Poseidon's Fury was announced to be closing the rumor was Zelda. Then Epic had planning docs leaked and the expansion pad next to SMW was explicitly described as a Nintendo expansion pad and given the Zelda windows and Zelda merch at the Nintendo store it seemed obvious that zelda would go next to mario.

Now it seems that Zelda is going back to Lost Continent so this makes me wonder if the overwhelming popularity of Darkmoor has caused a change of plans for Universal. The expansion pad being split into Luigis Mansion and something for Darkmoor could allow for alleviating the wait times at SNW and give Darkmoor more room to expand since it's the most popular land in guest feedback while also having the least to do in it.
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>>2824500
Allegedly $20,000 which is not a ton considering the effort and risk, but if he gets away with it, not bad. Not that I'm rooting for him.
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>>2824561
Normal thieves deserve the rope but if you rob a floating restaurant boat in full scuba attire that deserves a tip of the cap and a ggwp
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>>2824506
It would be the perfect place for it. If they still have the park rights to Beetlejuice they should build the house. Make it a ride or a restaurant. It could be like the Enchanted Tiki room but have an actor for Beetlejuice hosting. Make it a cabaret club or something.
>>2824540
Was it for the Wolfman coaster? I liked it but damn does that section need something. Have that gypsy woman from the coaster as an actual fortune teller. Anything.
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>>2824570
>Was it for the Wolfman coaster?
Yeah. Darkmoor needs an expansion real bad because the popularity of it is not serviced by the available offerings. The make up experience is niche and not everyone wants to walk around a blistering hot park with paint all over their face, so realistically the area has:
>a 10/10 dark ride
>a budget spinning coaster prototype
>3 food options
>character meet and greets

It needs a reason to stay once you've done the two rides and eaten. A stay and play system like the harry potter wands would help a lot until they are ready to expand it out or put in the rocking boat creature ride that's rumored
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Lots of rides announced today

Parc Asterix is getting a Londinium area with a shooting dark ride (named Circus after Piccadilly Circus) and an intamin SFX coaster (Camden). Asterix in Britain was kino so this could be a great addition to a really strong park

Rocking Boat at Dollywood

Suspended dark ride at Seaworld Orlando (sounds a bit like 20,000 leagues under the sea but the description is a bit vague)
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>>2824623
This is allegedly the ride system for the Seaworld Dark Ride: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwft_4Se3Pc

Hope they put some effort into it.
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>>2824352
Think I’m just gonna go to wherever the lines are short, prioritizing the ones that rarely have short lines. Seems like nothing requires a long waiting time for the entire day, except maybe the mine carts.
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Approximately how many babies are concieved at Disney Resort hotels annually?
[spoiler]I ask because I know of one particular case from this year.[/spoiler]
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aight give it to me straight my nigs, is castle inn at disneyland based or cringe? I plan to spend all day at the parks and will use the hotel only for sleeping and showering.
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>>2824634
>will use the hotel only for sleeping and showering
Just get the cheapest motel you can find if that's what you're after
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>>2824636
i prefer to sleep well and to have a pleasant showering experience...
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>>2824636
>>2824638
oh and this is literally the cheapest hotel in disneyland walking distance
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>>2824639
Isn't the Alpine Motel the cheapest?
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>>2824623
>Suspended dark ride at Seaworld Orlando

Busch Gardens Tampa needs literally ANYTHING indoors.

>>2824631
Dont be fooled by Monsters Unchained being short. That ride will stay short the whole day because it chews through crowds like Stephen Paddock.
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>>2824656
What's that you say, remove one of the few family rides and one of the ways to cool down? DONE!
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>>2824657
You mean remove 2 family rides with the other being most children and teenagers first experience with a looping coaster
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Any fellow roblox theme park makers/enjoyers?
Years ago I tried to get in to Disneyland Wales group
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Something tells me Race Through New York Starring Jimmy Fallon will not last too long
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>>2824685
I hope so. Twister was goated and I'm tired of people pretending it wasnt. Yeah it wasnt a ride but it was cool as shit and that's why I go to theme parks. To see things that are cool as shit
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>>2824697
>Twister
It wasn't a ride it was a queue line
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>>2824697
I'm so jealous. My mom and brother watched the Twister show one time, and then asked if they could stay in the theater instead of leaving and watch the show reset, and they let them. I hate I missed out on that.
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>>2824685
Don't be too sure, late night shows are dying but NBC wants to keep the Tonight Show alive, if only for its legacy. If Fallon gets removed from the Studio Tour then I'd say the ride's days are numbered.
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>>2824699
No it wasnt. It was a special effects show. I dont know why it triggers theme park fans so much. It's no different from the Horror Makeup Show but it ran all day and it fucking kicked ass.
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>>2824711
>It was a special effects show.
It was a queue line with special effects. Shows have seating.
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>>2824718
There are standing areas at concerts, so you are wrong. I am fully willing to die on the Twister hill so ask yourself how silly you wish to make this argument. Twister ruled.
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>>2824721
>There are standing areas at concerts, so you are wrong.
It was just Queue Line: The Ride. Fallon's ride isn't any worse.
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>>2824722
By your logic this is also a queue line since you never stop standing.
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>>2824725
That's not a show
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>>2824726
But according to you, the difference between a show and a queue is whether or not you can sit down, so by the same logic the difference between a coaster and a queue is whether or not you can sit down. So pipeline is a queue. According to you the fact that you are placed in a closed off room where a tornado is simulated destroying a small town doesnt matter so why should a small coaster section matter?
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>>2824728
>But according to you, the difference between a show and a queue is whether or not you can sit down
Incorrect.
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>>2824729
That's what you said
>>2824718
>It was a queue line with special effects. Shows have seating.
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>>2824730
see >>2824726
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>>2824731
You're engaging in circular logic then.
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>>2824732
You're arguing in bad faith. I accept your concession.
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>>2824733
I did not offer a concession. Your argument rests on itself and ignores the facts of the matter.

You could say Twister is similar to a "pre-show" but, as you can see, that has the word show in it so you'd be wrong. It being a pre-show would ultimately also be inaccurate because it had one of those, so there's really no scenario where it can be compared to a queue.
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>>2824735
>I did not offer a concession.
Regardless, I accepted it. Thank you.
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>>2824737
You have been vanquished and #TwisterNation notches yet another W.
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>>2824738
Your parting shot is noted.
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>>2824740
The movie Twister is about one of the most primordial faces on the face of the Earth. A force so powerful, so concentrated, it could rip the asphalt off a 6-lane highway; could hurl a freight train hundreds yards from its tracks, and could even destroy an entire town. At the same time, a tornado is one of the most awe inspiring sights one can witness in nature, full of majesty and mystery. I’m Bill Paxton. I play a storm chaser determined to confront that mystery, by getting as close as possible to a raging twister...
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>>2824722
Holy fucking reddit
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>>2824656
>Dont be fooled by Monsters Unchained being short. That ride will stay short the whole day because it chews through crowds like Stephen Paddock.
Yeah, I got that, /tpg/ told me about 200 times. Still I saw it top a guy’s list of best rides at epic, so I’m intrigued. Hard to believe it could be all that though.
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I've been planning a trip to WDW for the first week of February, but all of a sudden we get the announcement of Dinosaur closing February 2nd. How much does that risk effecting the crowds throughout the week? Plus it's last day of operation is a Sunday, is it even worth trying to go to Animal Kingdom during that week-end when we've never been?
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>>2824828
If you really want to ride Dinosaur before it dies it wouldn't be a huge deal to just rope drop AK with resort guests but you'd have to wake up pretty early. Passholding locals would make up a lot of Dinosaur traffic near its last day and thus wouldn't be in early entry unless they're really autistic and booked a resort. But if you do early entry you still want to get the Avatar stuff done first. Took me like less than an hour to get both Avatar rides and Everest done. The rest of the day would be above average crowds but AK's strength and weakness (especially when you go) is lack of rides so you can do all the other stuff at your own pace throughout the day. It truly is a half day park so I mean it when I say go at your own pace, once the morning rush is over.

I could be off but I don't think Dinosaur is enough of a fan favorite to impact crowds in other parks or on other days.
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FIRST BLOOD
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>>2824840
Heart attack or spinal injury?

I always wonder what the payout is for heart attack people on coasters. It's almost never the park's fault but on the other hand, if they get taken to court of it, it could get a crippling ruling.
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>>2824841
If it's a heart attack there's no payout cause the safety warning explicitly says do not ride if you have a heart neck or back condition.

The ride would have to be found to have malfunctioned which is unlikely as he was the only fatality.
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the problem with the donkey kong ride is that there needs to be more there to do. they should have realized its weaknesses, the very low capacity, so they should have thought of what roles it could actually serve, to bring energy to the area and to be an aspirational ride for people to come back to ride another time because the queue was too long during their visit.
So.
the ride should have a layout that makes it visible and life bringing
and
there should be some other reason to be in the donkey kong land so people can actually get to enjoy the energy the ride brings.

I've never been there so I don't know how well those goals are served.
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>>2824856
The part doesn't have enough for a "I'll do it another day". It takes a suprisingly small percentage of balks to get a queue from being insane to fairly normal for the crowd levels.

Is why the park is in such desperate need of people soaks. A high capacity but slow dark ride with an especially long pre-show is probably inevitable.
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Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind is an extremely fun ride even though the effects look shockingly cheap for a Disney ride.
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>>2824868
That's why I don't understand the people calling it Disney's best coaster. The preshow gimmick is fun but after that happens there's nothing particularly interesting. How it can be ranked above the GOAT Big Thunder Mountain (yes it's even better than Everest) is puzzling.
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>>2824869
The teleporting in the preshow absolutely blew my mind the first time. I would say for me that it is the Disney coaster I enjoy the most. It's a good length, and setting it to music is really fun. But when you see the reflection of your ride vehicle on the screen it does look really cheap.
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>>2824870
>But when you see the reflection of your ride vehicle on the screen it does look really cheap.
I don't know why I said reflection. I meant to say the shadow of your ride vehicle.
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I want revenge for Splash Mountain. I want Disney to be forced to revert it and I want the most racist depiction of a tarbaby imagineers can come up with to be featured on the ride. I want the tar baby to be wearing a Michael Vick jersey and smoking menthols.
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>>2824869
>>2824870
I don’t even remember what preshow gimmick you’re talking about, unless looking at Glenn Close is a gimmick. I just know the coaster itself is fun as fuck.
>How it can be ranked above the GOAT Big Thunder Mountain (yes it's even better than Everest) is puzzling.
You can’t figure out why it’s ranked above a kiddie coaster that goes 1 mph faster than the seven dwarves mine train?
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>stardust racers closed after guest died
Better be open Sunday you fucking faggots.
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>>2824875
It's a CYA investigation. Once the insurance lawyers sign off it will reopen
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>>2824771
It's honestly great. Possibly the best modern dark ride. I'm not sure if it or Stardust is my number 1 at the park, but those two are easily the top. Granted, I didn't get to ride Mario Kart or DK, but I can't imagine those dethroning it.
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>>2824880
DK is mid and if it was generically themed no one would like it. It's also the roughest coaster I have ever been on. It's like sitting on top of a washing machine full of heavy blankets during a spin cycle. I cannot recommend waiting more than 45 minutes for it.

Mario is very cool but because it uses the AR glasses you can only focus on either the game or the set pieces, but not both. The game is neat but a VR headset at your house can do the same thing. The set pieces are very cool also but you tend to overlook them because you're so focused on the game.
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>>2824228
I didn’t think I’ve seen the compys with the park workers shirt between them work once in the last decade
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>>2824887
They work but they move with the grace of a 70 year old tap dancer
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>>2824339
> Well not every guest is a couple in their 20s that wants to put in 30k steps.
I’m in my late 50s and I run 5 miles every single day. You need to put the fork down, anon
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>>2824697
> Twister was goated
Twister, Earthquake, King Kong, and Jaws were primary memories for me, now they’re all gone and replaced with cheap screen rides :(
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>>2824725
I know it’s not for everyone but I could ride Pipeline over and over again. It’s so much fucking fun. Kowabunga dudes!!!
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>>2824891
I walk 20 miles at theme parks. I'm not referring to myself. Good for you tho
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>>2824895
20 miles is pretty damn impressive. Most I’ve ever done in 18 at Busch Gardens but that park is fucking HUGE and we were staying at a hotel down the road so we walked there and back
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Has anybody here ever been to Medieval Times? Is it true the one in Chicago is the best in the world?
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>>2824889
My boy didn't see Dick Van Dyke at age 92
https://youtu.be/fHRQENE4f5c?t=80
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>>2824883
Hopefully DK can get some new, stronger trains sooner rather than later. The onboard speakers also face upwards meaning rain fucks them up easily and the ride has to close in the slightest drizzle.

MK was actually a pleasant surprise for me as the gameplay functions a lot better than Hollywood's and the vehicles are roomier.
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>>2824873
>yet another thoosie who thinks more extreme = better
I can't fathom that being a valid metric to judge coasters. Do you just love travelling carnivals then?
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>>2824912
What’s a thoosie?
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>>2824909
They need to make a new train that has two linked vehicles and figure out the engineering there. No one wants to wait 4 hours for a minute and a half long ride that is 80% lift-hills
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>>2824841
>I always wonder what the payout is for heart attack people on coasters.
Relatively small since it's likely not a ride malfunction.

>>2824844
>If it's a heart attack there's no payout cause the safety warning explicitly says do not ride if you have a heart neck or back condition.
Naive
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>>2824875
Odds are he was fat and dehydrated
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>>2824943
>He's just like me
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>>2824943
The amount of fat people I see at parks now I'm surprised this isnt happening all the time. The human body is so durable its crazy.
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>>2824949
I saw an old lady with a wheelchair and oxygen mask get on Iron fucking Gwazi. True story. I saw her later in one of the designated areas smoking a cigarette
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>>2824950
I rode Cheetah Hunt with a guy in his 80s that said he's spending his retirement flying around the US doing all of the coasters. He was in great shape and couldn't believe he was that old. He said Iron Gwazi is the greatest coaster he had ever done.
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>>2824892
We’ll always have ET.
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>>2824901
I used to live a mile from there but never went.
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>>2824912
I didn’t say anything about extremeness. Cosmic Rewind isn’t extreme at all. It’s just better than BTMR in every way except theming (which is atrocious but I’m a typical marvel hater so a bit biased there).
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>>2824954
I see it closing exactly five years after Spielberg dies.
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>>2824949
What the fuck is with fat thoosies? I’m in a thoosie facebook group and this guy was asking about seat restraints at a park yesterday. If you’re gonna make your hobby something where being obese makes every part of that hobby worse, wouldn’t it be better to just not be obese?
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>>2824959
No way. Even USF must realize the nostalgia power that thing has and value having ONE ride that was there opening day. Plus it’s just a fine dark ride. Peter Pan tier.
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>>2824961
I would think if I ever couldn't fit on a ride, that would be the moment I decide to seriously lose weight. But these people are just addicted to food. And it's harder than being addicted to smoking in some ways, because you can't simply quit eating altogether.
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>>2824872
I really wonder how long Tiana's ride is sticking around. Everyone knows it's so much worse than what it replaced. It seemed like such a hasty decision that I have to think they wish they could take back now.
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>>2824966
It'll have to limp along for at least 3 years until front tire land opens
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>>2824954
They “updated” ET for “modern audiences” years ago and replaced all the guns with walkee talkees and shit. Sad times. If you look at the police robots they don’t even make sense anymore, bc all they did is literally remove the guns and put in walkee talkees, so they’re moving around pointing fucking radios at stuff. It’s bizarre
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>>2824966
It had a fucking 90 minute line when I was there so that’ll have to stop first.
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>>2824965
Yeah but you can stop eating shit that obviously makes you fat, or at least not doing it as often. I really have no sympathy for fats. The knowledge of how to lose weight is just so readily available these days, and that’s not even taking ozempic into account which will do it for you. The ONLY way you can be fat these days is by not caring.
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>>2824993
I haven’t seen the movie in years but it’s hard to imagine guns improving that ride.
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>>2824998
That's not his point. The point is we're becoming bitch-ass as a culture because we for whatever reason value the opinions of fat women
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>>2824996
Epic, sir
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>>2824999
Gun violence is a serious issue. I don’t mind the change. And I’m sure a lot of people didn’t enjoy having guns pointed at them.
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>>2824949
You're more likely to die when not on a coaster than when you're on one.

Of course there is some statistical shenanigans to that (sick and frail people won't be riding coasters)
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>>2825004
Source?
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>>2825001
Look fat, listen here, all of that was pretty standard.
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>>2825003
>And I’m sure a lot of people didn’t enjoy having guns pointed at them.
I like it
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>>2825009
Even Spielberg came out and says he regrets it now and that it was a stupid mistake

https://www.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/12yxc6g/steven_spielberg_regrets_editing_guns_out_of_et/
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>Multiple blunt force impacts

What the fuck?

>>2824875
Not gonna be open dog, sorry
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>>2825011
Well this is a complete disaster.

>mfw they remove the dueling component again
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>>2825011
>>2825013
>multiple blunt force impacts
I can't think of something big or heavy enough that a person could reasonably carry on board that would cause such an injury. It's possible a ride component came off.

Still early in the story and the media doesn't care about reporting with accuracy, so take everything you read with a grain of salt.
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>>2825006
It's a pretty well known stat and it holds up pretty well under scrutiny (aside from the control shenanigans regarding health of the average rider)

>Assume Big Thunder Mountain has 50% uptime during the year
>90 people on it at any given moment
>a year BTM running is the equivalent of someone riding it non stop for 45 years

Once you get past 78 rider years without a death, you're more likely to die when not on it.
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>>2825018
People are saying he passed out on the ride and because there's only a lap bar, his torso and head were free to ragdoll and slam into the sides of his seat over and over, killing him. Witnesses said he pulled into the station unconscious, covered in blood from his face.

If that's true, that means that velocicoaster and stardust both might need to be retrofit with shoulder harnesses because it could very easily happen again at some point. Especially with how much epic dehydrates people by baking them alive with all the concrete.

What a fucking disaster.
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>>2825018
Most of the speculation I'm seeing is that he went unconscious during the ride and ragdolled around, causing the impacts. His head hitting the lapbar on the bottom of a hill, for example.
It would be a shame if they increased the trims as a result of this.
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>>2825020
Don’t think this could affect rides like Mako? It’s just got a waist bar
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>>2825022
No
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>>2825021
I wouldn't be worried about trims. The problem is the free torso and head of an unconscious person which trims wouldn't solve. I'd be worried about the restraint systems being re-designed causing a ride closure for months. Good news is I doubt this is an issue with the dueling component so that should remain part of it.

>>2825022
Depends on what forces the ride puts on an unconscious person. Mako is a lot of big airtime hills, but stardust is smaller intense airtime hills and quick twists. I think the twists were the problem. Velocicoaster also has twists so I'm pretty worried actually
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>>2824957
Yes you did, retard. You're whining about Big Thunder being a slow kiddie coaster.
And nobody said Cosmic Rewind is extreme, but if you had to pick between the two then it's CR.
>It’s just better than BTMR in every way
Ok, name one? Get to the gist of your fucking argument.

>>2824966
It's never getting undone. Most you can hope for is they redo the interior scenes but that's not at all a priority for many years. Any shred of expecting them to revert to Splash is pure retarded delusion.

>>2825020
That's more scary and sad than I was expecting. How do you test to avoid this? Now coasters have to be designed to be safe with an unconscious passenger?
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>>2825026
>Now coasters have to be designed to be safe with an unconscious passenger?
They always did. That's why the shoulder harness was invented. Passing out on a coaster is a very common thing and happens daily, especially in the summer heat. I myself have grayed out on a few. This poor guy must have had the exact wrong body dimensions to survive being unconscious on the ride cause there's no way they didn't test for this.
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>>2825020
This seems a very real possibility. Going to be really bad for the entire industry if true, these restraints are in most modern rides. So many coasters would need closing for retrofitting.. Could possibly get away with some over the shoulder seat belts though.

>>2825022
The biggest risk rides will be any that cause whiteouts. After that, it's going going to be any swift changes in forces. A lot of multi-launch coasters have those twisted sections and some even have banking designed to make it forceful. Imagine those when you're slumped over the restaints with zero muscle resistance. Airtime hills are probably pretty bad too
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>>2825027
Possible the restraints were too low on his hips and once he passed out, he slipped a bit further up, they did their job to avoid him falling out but it allowed enough movement for him to completely slump over onto the bars. it's possible for something like that to miss testing, They can only test so many dummy combinations.
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Will be interesting to see if Hyperia and Voltron are open tomorrow.
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>>2825030
Maybe this hasn't been a problem on velocicoaster because the back of the seat is flatter and doesnt have that orange cupped back support thing stardust has. He has a mexican sounding name so I'm assuming he's short. If he was short enough his head would be right in line with the orange back support allowing him to strike it over and over as the coaster twisted and dove. There's no way people havent passed out on Velocicoaster and to my knowledge no incident like that has been reported thus far. Passing out on rides is an extremely common thing at theme parks.
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>>2825032
If the FDACS report says what I suspect it will, things could get really interesting.
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Not to be sarcastic over a sad situation, but as if EU needed fewer rides operating...
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>>2825034
Pending new mitigating facts, this is really bad. A death caused directly by restraint design (without it being someone wriggling out, staff fucking up, someone too fat, too tall, too short, too limbless) is something I can't remember happening. Mack will obviously need to take drastic action but every modern lapbar-not-shoulder-harness design could get scruitiny.
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https://www.clickorlando.com/video/news/2025/09/18/rider-recounts-experience-after-guest-on-stardust-racers-found-unresponsive/

This is extremely not good.
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>>2825040
I can't listen to this ESL someone give me the QRD
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>>2825040
Shitty fucking interview you should be banned for posting it.
>>2825041
only relevant information is that the rider's leg appeared "broke", had blood on his face and shirt
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>>2825040
Oh fuck, that is really fucking bad. Yep, no Mack coasters with modern lap bars are going to be opening tomorrow.

>>2825041
Ride pulled in, Girl screaming for help. Security ushered people off the ride. She got a look:

Guy unconscious, slumped over, blood on his face, leg broken and sticking out the car.
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>>2825041
His leg was broken and jutting outside the vehicle and people were screaming when he pulled in. He was basically sticking out of the ride. Security did not immediately respond to the unconscious rider, instead opting to scream at everyone in line to "get out".

>>2825044
Fuck you faggot. His leg sticking out and security not rushing to his assistance is pertinent, new information. I cant help that the bitch is chinese
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>>2825040
>he was dead when he pulled in

No Hispanics will ever ride Stardust again now that it's haunted.
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>>2825046
>His leg sticking out and security not rushing to his assistance is pertinent, new information
So just say that. Don't make us sit through a 4 minute ESL interview.
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>>2825050
Just in time for Halloween ooooOoooooOooooohhh
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>>2825019
But people spend the vast majority of their lives not on roller coasters, so you would expect most deaths to not be on coasters. You need more information to conclude the numbers of deaths on coasters isn’t disproportionate.
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>>2825010
That’s for the film, not the ride.
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>>2825052
I linked it for those who wish to see it. The world doesnt revolve around you homo
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>>2825011
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
NO ONE DIED AT THIS OVERPRICED SHIT PARK UNTIL I DECIDED TO GO THERE ON MY WORK TRIP A WEEK AGO AND NOW SPIC MCSPICFACE DECIDES TO BITCHSLAP THE RIDE WITH HIS FACE WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUCK
WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO IN ORLANDO ON SATURDAY NOW I’VE ALREADY BEEN TO DISNEY AND THE OTHER UNIVERSAL PARKS TWICE THIS YEAR AND I’M HITTING BUSCH AND SEAWORLD ON FRIDAY AND SUNDAY RESPECTIVELY
FUCK FUCK FUCK
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Someone on plebbit is saying he was wheelchair bound prior to riding. so it could be that his legs were gimpy and small?

>>2825064
Many people are saying you're the true victim in all this.
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>>2825064
>WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO IN ORLANDO ON SATURDAY
the crayola experience :)
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>>2825064
Idk why it's an issue for you, if anything you got to experience Stardust before whatever changes happen as a result of the incident.
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>>2825069
I HAVEN’T RIDDEN IT YOU STUPID COCK
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Thoosies:
Dead, broken limbs, bleeding from the mouth all over their shirt

Theme-chads:
Enjoying the thought provoking narrative, basking in the ambiance, getting their dick sucked by a girl
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>>2825072
>getting their dick sucked by a girl
Fuck off bitch I'm trying to listen to Living with the Land flute ambience
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>>2825046
>Security did not immediately respond to the unconscious rider, instead opting to scream at everyone in line to "get out"
That's their job
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>>2825067
>Many people are saying you're the true victim in all this.
Lmao

>>2825070
Good
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>>2825074
Let your landwhale Disney girlfriend with a body like Monstro suck the sugar off your pants-churro faggot. Be a MAN
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Does this mean the lines at Epic Universe will be shorter?
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>>2825085
By approximately one less guy
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>>2825085
Would they not get longer with the ride down? Or would they be shorter because of people like >>2825064 not going.
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Rode Stardust last week.
Good coaster.
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If this dude who fell off just had a really fucked up body, could they just be more strict about who they let on and keep the restraints the same?
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>>2825096
How do you enforce that? You can't just turn away every cripple.
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>>2825096
Idk. The fat negro child that died on the drop tower had a fucked up body that shouldn't have been allowed on and the ride was deemed racist and destroyed. Minorities are fucking retarded
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>>2825098
Some rides can depending on their restraint system. I worked at Soarin' in DCA years ago and given it was just a seat belt, we required riders to have lower extremities. It's the same why they don't let a lot of fatties on Tron.
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>>2825085
longer if anything, a coaster holds a lot of people away from other areas of the park. apparently universal orlando team members are now blocked out of epic, so that is some attendance going down
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If he had passed out on the ride. He would have no physical control over his body hence the blunt forces from the ride which would make sense. Doubt he would have an injury as it the ride itself is very safe. Its a tragic event for sure but don't think it's negligence of the coasters design
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>>2825111
I feel like eventually a picture of the guy is gonna surface and everyone will collectively go "ooooooh"
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>>2825113
It's kind of unlikely because everything is stored in lockers before getting on and people go through metal detectors. If someone with a GoPro set up strapped to their torso got through at that time, there's a possibility they recorded it, but other than that most footage would be internal.
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>>2825114
I mean a photo of him off his social media where the reason he died is immediately obvious. I'm suggesting he was differently abled
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>>2825116
Oh yeah, that makes a lot more sense. I heard the guy was already wheelchair bound.
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>>2825026
Nope, you just don’t have a prayer of defending your retarded opinion without misquoting me somehow. BTMR is a slow kiddie coaster though. Call that “whining” if you want. I don’t care.
>Get to the gist of your fucking argument. BTMR isn’t particularly good at anything except theming. Great for kids though.
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>>2825118
He's right though
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>>2824875
alright... green or yellow?
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>>2825118
>stop misquoting me!! i didnt say big thunder was a kiddie coaster!! i said big thunder was a kiddie coaster!!
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i was going to make a joke about thoosies dying on extreme coasters while i ride btm but ironically big thunder afaik is the only disney coaster that's directly killed someone lol (only disneyland's inferior version though)
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>>2825122
I don’t think anybody would call cosmic racers an “extreme” coaster, lmao. Billy goes like 60 mph and 130 feet up… I think that would be classified as a family coaster
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>>2825123
someone died a bloody death simply riding stardust. I don't think even your most "super scary extreme" coasters have done that
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>>2825093
Best coaster I've ridden honestly.
>>2825123
I mean the negative gs are pretty strong. If I had glasses I'd think twice about wearing them on the ride.
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>>2825111
People pass out on coasters all the time. They test for this ragdoll scenario. The speculation is saying this is might have what happened but it makes no sense to me, especially on a ride system at a Universal park. I don’t know where the broken leg fits in with this or if that’s just mistaken info. Same with him being in a wheelchair, if that’s a case maybe he had something already wrong with his legs. I guess we will wait for more info. I don’t think he was hit with something though or from the other train, not multiple times (but thinking about it gives be dueling dragons stopping its dueling flashbacks).

If the guy was really handicapped and his leg was sticking out then it sounds like a restraint issue. Aka he came out of them
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>>2825134
It doesn't make any sense to me either. The riders are pretty nested in the seats and it's not as open as velocicoaster. I feel like even a limp unconscious passenger would be pretty securely held in place and wouldn't wiggle around much, definitely not enough to bash against the seat hard enough to die. The only thing that makes sense is something being wrong with his leg, but if that's the case he shouldn't have been allowed to ride so it's a failure of ride ops or policy
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Unironically looking forward to riding Gran Fiesta Tour when I go Epcot for the first time in November. For some reason Donald is heavily underused at Disneyland/CA and there is little to no Donald merch for whatever reason.
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>>2825135
>The only thing that makes sense is something being wrong with his leg, but if that's the case he shouldn't have been allowed to ride so it's a failure of ride ops or policy
Agreed. Maybe like a less extreme version of the double amputee being ejected from Ride of Steel at Darien Lake. Somebody who should not have been greenlit to ride (to be fair the Ride of Steel guy snuck past the ride operators)
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>>2825136
Based
Three Caballeros has unironically my favorite Disney soundtrack so it's cool to see it represented in a ride of all things. And it feels just like the movie (partly cause youre looking at a lot of screens but i digress, still plenty of practical sets).
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>>2825136
And yes I know PhillharMagic is in CA but those fuckers at Disney took out MuppetVision for it
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>>2825136
Love the fireworks in the finale scene and the Three Caballeros animatronics look great
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>>2825138
I know wheelchair bound people tend to have very diminished legs cause they don't use their leg muscles so I would think maybe his legs were thin enough to slip out around the sides of the lap bar. I cant imagine this being the issue though because children ride stardust and they have skinny legs with no problems. It really makes zero sense that this was possible. If the lap bar was placed on his legs, he shouldn't have been able to get a leg out. Even if he passed out he should have been fine.

It also makes zero sense that he died from blunt force trauma from the seat. I think he struck the seat in front of him, but as to how that happened I have no idea. None of it makes sense unless ride ops fucked up majorly but universal is pretty strict with that.

I think this is gonna blow up into a bigger story tomorrow.
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>>2825144
Yeah. I just read another article with a witness claiming it looked like a big piece of metal detached and was hanging from the seat. That doesn’t sound right either but who knows what he really saw or if he’s telling the truth.
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>>2825145
>claiming it looked like a big piece of metal detached and was hanging from the seat

What a mess
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>>2825136
>>2825143
Yeah it's not a great ride but it's kind of comfy. And you can always walk right onto it.
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>>2825178
Vince always wins
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>>2825145
Could be wrong but that could be citing a tiktoker who is milking this death for clicks so who knows if its truth. I highly doubt he's being honest
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>>2825253
People always claim to see stuff that probably didn’t happen or they didn’t know what they were seeing when they glanced at it.

This guy was apparently quadriplegic. I saw a quadriplegic man at Cedar Point riding Gatekeeper. That has OTSR (vests). They stopped operations to load him and I think they put him in some sort of harness first. When it came back he was smiling and clapping. One of the few moments of joy for having to unfortunately live with that condition. Anyways, I can see this incident leading to quadriplegics being ineligible from riding. You can’t accommodate everybody, the amputees can’t ride a lot of things either. Stardust has the same Mack restraints as Copperhead Strike and Time Traveler, I still can’t see how you could come out of those. Even with little weak legs because again they hold in kids
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>>2825271
>I saw a quadriplegic man at Cedar Point riding Gatekeeper.
>When it came back he was smiling and clapping.
Did it heal him?!
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>The guy who died

The puzzle is starting to come together. His legs are stubby and narrow and he has a fat mid-section. I can picture him being ejected on one of the airtime hills with his narrow legs slipping through the lap bar, which would put him on top of the lap bar with one leg out. That's why the woman said his lap bar was "crushed in". He was laying on it. This would also basically allow his entire body to flail around and strike things for the full ride.

This also dispels the idea that he "passed out" and flailed around. Clearly he slipped out of the restraint and got slammed into hard metal over and over. This poor bastard was likely totally awake as this happened.
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>>2825277
Ha! Only his upper body. In my memory he was clapping but I forgot that was impossible. I made a false memory of a quadriplegic clapping on a roller coaster.
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>>2825282
So he’s not a quadriplegic. But his upper body is large (and overweight) and his lower body is disproportionately smaller. I guess there is a chance the weight distribution caused him to slip out but I don’t get how one leg would come out and the other would stay in and keep him in the seat while the rest of his body is flopping around hitting the train and what not. I would think he would have been completely ejected if he slipped out.
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>>2825295
Either way his family is about to be wealthy as shit because he should not have been allowed to ride and whatever UCF college student "checked" his lap bar is gonna feel Mark Woodbury's fist up their ass
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>>2825282
I bet the restraint was put on his gut instead of his legs and there was a huge gap that allowed his legs to slip through. The ride op probably pushed down and assumed it was on his legs. Doesn't make sense otherwise.
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>>2825282
Poor fucker. Terrible way to go out. At least the ride should still be safe for people with more typical body types, I'd feel comfortable riding it today if it was open. But hopefully they'll really crack down on making sure that people are fully secure in the restraints before sending trains out so stuff like this never happens again.
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>>2825301
The idea of doing the celestial spin while dangling out of the seat is the scariest thing I can imagine.
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Press F to pay respects
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>>2825072
Aren’t we all theme chads who like roller coasters here? 90%+ of the discussion is Disney or Universal related.
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>>2825282
This picture makes me real sad. Seems like a ride ops fail which is better from an industry pov but universal will get taken to the cleaners.

"You must be able to physically brace yourself" is a standard requirement for intense coasters.
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>>2825297
Those Mack restraints are full of sensors, train won’t dispatch without a green light from the restraint being in a safe position. On the 3x Intamin Ride of Steel incidents at two parks, one guy had no legs, one guy was obese and the bar was on his stomach, one guy had cerebral palsy (which might be similar to the incident here). All 3 were ejected and two died (fat guy survived). But those trains don’t have green lights, they went by eye. Not sure about the Gerstlauer train on New Texas Giant that ejected a morbidly obese woman also with the bar on her stomach. Anyways, if the green light made a huge gap with the smaller legs slipping through how the heck did he not get completely ejected? This isn’t going to end well for these kinds of restraints. I bet Stardust is closed for months and reopens with OTSRs. Keep an eye on Copperhead Strike and Time Traveler. Possibly Velocicoaster since it’s at the same theme park resort and has similar restraints.
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>>2825305
Sorry wrong guy this is him
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>>2825309
>one guy was obese and the bar was on his stomach
If you look at the wheelchair pic his gut extends beyond the bag and there's only a little bit of leg left. Do you think it's possible that his gut was under the lap bar? I know on hagrids if you ride the motorcycle side they make a big deal over making sure it's on your legs and will pull you off the ride if it cant touch your legs and I cant imagine it's all that different on stardust.
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>>2825311
Really?
I'm amazed any lap restraint would even be tried on a paralytic with stick legs.
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>>2825140
Philharmagic in CA is a compromised and frankly terrible experience.
You're watching a 3D movie that is supposed to wrap almost all the way around you compressed onto a near standard movie theatre screen, because that's what the MuppetVision screen is.
The sudden transition (and back) for that widescreen mode has zero impact when it isn't due to physical setpieces moving around.
The box seats for Statler and Waldorf (and Bean Bunny) just sit there closed and vacant taunting the parkgoer.
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>>2825311
B&M coasters offer a harness for amputees and paraplegics (not quadriplegics, they can’t ride coasters. I probably did see the guy on Gatekeeper clapping then but I remember him being entirely limp when they put him in the seat). Copperhead Strike, a Mack coaster with the same restraints, has the usual Cedar Fair/Flags warning that you must have 3 functioning extremities including both of your legs. Aka they can’t ride it and should not have been allowed to ride. This might be a ride operator problem
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They're gonna either wait until late this evening to drop more info or next Friday to avoid making headlines as much as possible. This is very obviously a fatal ride ops error and if the media is bored enough could blow up into a controversy.

Lots of lawyers are about to earn their bloated salaries this month.
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>>2825358
Imagine being the operator who caused this nice paraplegic man to get his body fucked up in horrendous fashion by a roller coaster which then returned it to the loading dock to present it for all to see, the way a pet dog would do with a squirrel it just killed. His or her life will never be the same.
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>>2825360
>This is very obviously a fatal ride ops error
oh ok thanks anon
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>>2825365
There's so many fat theater kid ride ops at Disney and Universal. They always look bored out of their fucking mind coasting on mental auto-pilot.

99% of the time they just put their hand on the restraint and give it a light wiggle before moving on cause they prioritize capacity. I could easily prop the bar up by lifting my thighs while they check it and they'd have no idea. I know this because I've done it and rode The Mummy with like 4 inches of clearance between my leg and the bar. I literally flew on the launch hill shit was cash
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>>2825369
I do that to get more air time. Is that unsafe? They almost always catch me though.
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>>2825373
>Is that unsafe?
Apparently if you have celery for legs.
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>>2825376
What if not? I figure if Phoenix hasn’t killed anyone despite having virtually no restraints I’m not going anywhere.
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>>2825373
>Is that unsafe?
Ultimately yes. The restraint is designed to be effective when pulled as close to the rider as possible. By putting it in an artificially high position, you're partially defeating it. Doesn't mean you'll fly out, but that's not the way it was intended to be used and it does increase the risk to the rider.

About 25 years ago some thoosie girl was killed at Holiday World during an ERT event because she got flung out of the Raven iirc after riding with the lap bar up too high to get more airtime. Caused a huge controversy in the enthusiast community (sitting or putting yourself in a position to keep the restraint as loose as possible) when it happened because it was a fairly widespread practice. A number of parks including Cedar Point put out "open letters" to enthusiasts warning them to stop doing it.
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>>2825389
>Multiple witnesses reported that they saw Fellner "virtually standing up" during the ride's initial and subsequent drops.
So it’s safe as long as you’re not being obviously retarded?
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I'll just say that cowardchads remain vindicated. I'm supposed to feel insecure for not wanting to ride these things? Lol.
I'll stick to Small World and Soarin.

>>2825365
Not just the one operator but the multiple who would have been involved. I do suppose it remains to be proven if the restraints were just improperly secured or if the person should have never been allowed at all.

>>2825369
I appreciate ride ops who aren't zombified out of their marbles. I get they have to be efficient and direct but most of those zoomers don't have a "customer service voice". Especially if they're black. There was a fat guy working Living with the Land last I went who was really good at being upbeat even though all he was doing was counting riders, I wish I'd sent in a compliment.
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>>2825394
>I'll just say that cowardchads remain vindicated
Not so fast. Only fat fucks, retards, disabled people and those with heart conditions have any trouble.
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>>2825394
>I'll just say that cowardchads remain vindicated.
>I'm supposed to feel insecure for not wanting to ride these things? Lol.
>I'll stick to Small World and Soarin.
Lol it's really true, Disneytards really love the idea of theme parks but they're too scared to get on actual thrill rides
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>>2825401
>oh you like theming but you don't like thrill?
What's even the surprise here? You guys would argue that Disneyland park has never even had a "real" thrill ride anyway.
I just want to see cool stuff, not get thrown out of my seat.
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>Got to ride Duelling Dragons before it stopped duelling.
>Got to ride Everest before the yeti broke.
>Got to ride Stardust before they added fat cripple harnesses to every seat.
I'm a lucky guy, I guess.
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>>2825407
>I just want to see cool stuff, not get thrown out of my seat.
People have died from ride malfunctions at Disney parks, you're just coping for being an adult who is scared of roller coasters. I wouldn't tell other people that
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>>2825409
>Got to ride Everest before the yeti broke.
This is the only one I'm jealous of
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>>2825410
>died from ride malfunctions
If we're limiting to only proper malfunctions, I only know of the one Disneyland Big thunder incident referenced earlier.
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>>2825420
there was another accident on the sailing ship columbia. well, it was actually the dock. anyway the cast member driving the boat came in too hot and the rope pulled a metal cleat off the dock and it iced some asian dude

improper training was to blame
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Do you think there will be a court case over Stardust, and will the jurors have to ride it?
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>>2825453
Wasn't that caused by them switching the ropes to a cheaper material that didn't have as much slack?
Either way the Pressler years were nightmarish for Disneyland. You also had Space Mountain getting major structural issues that required a nearly complete retrack to fix during the same time period.
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>>2825455
How'd he fall out?
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Is Movieworld on the Gold Coast worth doing?
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>>2825311
>jesus is god
Isn't the whole point that Jesus is the son of God and not God himself because muh trinity etc
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>>2825483
It's all God apparently
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>>2825455
How in the fuck was it allowed to take the jury to Space Mountain? Surely that's a conflict of interest or something
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>>2825420
The cast member crushed to death on carousel of progress, should have triggered a safety cutoff
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Only new information that came out is he had a spinal problem but like...duh
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>>2825493
Don't worry anons here have already solved the case. It was the operators' fault
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Whew I'm glad it was the lowly wageslaves fault, not the companies
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>>2825497
I am one of those anons. I just want definitive information as to how exactly he slipped out and what exactly was overlooked. It's triggering the shit out of my OCD.

>>2825498
Well the company can only train people so much. At a certain point it's the ride ops job to actually implement that training and assume that responsibility. The company will be held responsible but whatever wagie didn't bother to make sure the wheelchair guy was fully locked in is a fucking retard. We dont need these yearly reminders that amusement park rides operate with lethal force and if the safety procedures aren't observed tragedy is inevitable. It may be a cute summer job people do in college, but it's literally life or death. If you aren't willing to assume that responsibility just go work at Dairy Queen.
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Epcot having the best wait times of the 4 WDW parks really adds to my enjoyment of it. How do they do it? And the low waits are for actual good rides.
>Gran fiesta walk-on
>Test Track single rider walk-on
>Mission: Space walk-on
>Soarin' barely a wait
>Living with the Land barely a wait

MK is still the best one though
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>>2825409
Was the functioning yeti as cool as i think it is?
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>>2825509
it's so fucking big it stops people from going "hey the phone says that wait is short let's walk across the park to go on"
you're not running to test track if you're in france
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>>2825509
Yet there are people who are saying these need to be demolished to be replaced with low capacity, high wait lines because lines are what determines a ride success
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>>2825511
Not that anon but I was lucky to have ridden it with the yeti too. It was the best part of the ride. The room was lit up and it looked like it was going to grab you. The next year I went on with friends and it was in its current broken state (going on 18 years) but I just thought it was a temporary glitch like when onboard audio doesn’t work and we went on again and then again a couple days later. It was disappointing. Can’t believe they never fixed it. Whenever people speaking highly of Everest that’s a big meh for me because of it it
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>>2825523
I remember a travel channel documentary where they showed the yeti moving and talked about how much work they put into it. Such a shame it just sits there broken.
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>>2825523
They should knock the whole ride down and remaster it from the ground up with a much better, but equally scary modern yeti animatronic. The ride kinda sucks outside the drop and it's showing its age.

Get Rhode out of retirement for one last ride.
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>>2825511
It was fucking awesome. Everest was the first time I ever got hyped up for a ride opening. The year before it opened, the in-hotel tv channels played previews of the animatronic behind a tarp, so you could see its shadow. As a kid who loved cryptids, this got me excited. Then they released a little point and click adventure game leading up to the opening which got me even more pumped. Seeing that yeti lumge at me was one of the coolest moments I ever had at Disney, and it's a fucking shame nobody will ever get to experience it again.
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>>2825483
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
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>>2825561
AMOGUS?
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>>2825509
They have the new IP rides soaking up the crowds.
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>>2825523
I also think Everest is overrated for that reason. You can’t rate a broken ride they refuse to fix highly.

Also how come no one ever talks about the missing fog? Hard to believe there isn’t a way to make that happen.
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>>2825563
Still think it's a shame they didn't do the Mary Poppins ride as a full kiddie ride, would have really made a huge difference to spreading the crowd out and balancing the rides in the world showcase. It's also kinda weird how the UK pavilion has become so popular when the first time I went (98) it was kinda dead outside of people getting the yard of ale for the drink crawl.
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>>2822398
What video?
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>>2822398
Wasn't Parc Asterix was it? If that depicts black people like the comments I could see a melt down happening.
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>>2825526
I’d rather not involve Rhode. He’s the reason why the park is shit and full of ugliness. I know some of you like it but outside the entrance reveal to the tree I think it’s a pretty ugly park for reasons stated in one of the prior threads. Recreating rusty bikes and graffiti for authenticity in theming is as bad as recreating a dinosaur carnival parking lot. Wasn’t he response for the poaching story on the Safari? I guess it’s better than nothing at all in its current state but it was always pretty lame and save the rainforesty. I also hate his massive earring, what am obnoxious little fag. He’s also extremely leftist. I do agree they need to open the mountain up and rebuild the damn thing but I think the actual coaster part is fine and high capacity. Backwards helix is one of the GOATs
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>>2825564
They cant even remove the thousands of hair ties.

>>2825684
I'm sorry but that's retarded. He's better than modern imagineers at placing the emphasis on story and creativity. Yeah he's a libtard. They all are. So you either go with the modern libtard that would introduce a black female sherpa character that says marvel quips as you ascend the mountain or the boomer libtard that understands the necessity of pacing and anticipation
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>>2825689
> So you either go with the modern libtard that would introduce a black female sherpa character that says marvel quips as you ascend the mountain or the boomer libtard that understands the necessity of pacing and anticipation
Modern entertainment in a nutshell right there
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>>2825689
Rhode would do the same exact thing as modern imagineers. Recreating African garbage as theming is also pretty libtarded
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>>2825689
Remove the hair times and they would be back the following day. I kind of get it.
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>>2825708
>Recreating African garbage as theming
I mean....it's accurate. That whole area looks like a fucking shanty town. Modern disney would make it look like Wakanda and put Pyramids and shit
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I changed, my mind, I AM gonna get the Sea World annual pass. But here’s the catch: I’m gonna make my home park San Antonio. I don’t have any plans of ever going there, but when you make that your home park the price becomes $190 for all 11 parks instead of $340 at BGW and $400 at BGT. I’ll lose out on a few home park perks, but I don’t plan to go to any of their parks more than twice so it doesn’t matter. I’ll break even on this pass by tomorrow afternoon.
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>>2825729
Shamu hates this one weird trick.
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I wrote a while back how I'd get disney world FOMO anxiety dreams fairly often but since having an annual pass and taking it more casually I've not had them
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I will now support your blood drive
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>>2825735
>>2825729
>six flags san antonio phone guy: “so you’ve never been to our park before?”
>me: “first time”
>phone guy: “you’re going to love it”
heh heh heh heh
I’m not going to your silly park, I just wanted the cheaper annual pass
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>>2825770
*sea world san antonio
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Galacticoaster announced for Legoland Florida
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>>2825774
/ourguy/ Poseidon Entertainment said Legoland Florida was le bad though
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>>2825775
>/ourguy/
>pisseidon entertainment
You are mistaken, this is not reddit.
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>>2825788
I've still yet to see evidence of his apparent anti-white stance in his videos
What video exactly did he do this?
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Let’s go boys.

Also I only care about Iron Gwazi. What other shit is worth doing at Busch Tampa tonight?
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>>2825774
And the crowd goes mild
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>>2825790
All of it. Cheetah Hunt is still great.
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What's the best rollercoaster/theme park game?
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>>2825792
It’s also closed I think. I meant more the Halloween stuff. Never been to one of these.
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>>2825794
The roblox one is good with gamepasses that make building more free
>>2824676
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>>2825767
>>2825790
Kek, based
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>>2825794
RCT 2
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>>2825803
Would that game be fun if I’m not creative at all and have no imagination?
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>>2825798
Oh well the houses are pretty good usually. Kinda like HHN-lite. Only new one is the MARS one, but stranglewood is everyone's favorite
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>>2825794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owj8_00_CL4

pinballmap.com
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>>2825775
It’s pretty disappointing. If you go there when the crowds are average or above average the operations are so bad the lines are long. If you go when it’s dead they close rides and food places. You could probably still have a good time if it was dead.. if you have kids. Otherwise it’s not worth going to.
>>2825788
He used to post here
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>>2825311
bro be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GGfz-o5khc&list=WL&index=8
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>>2825825
kek
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Took me way too long
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>>2825810
Pestilence made me feel like a jew
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>>2821942
I live <1 hr from Knoebels so I've tried a lot of food there. It's mostly just good fried food and okay BBQ with decent portion sizes which elevates it above most theme parks. The full-service indoor restaurant there is awful in my experience though
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>>2825810
I liked all the haunted houses. Stranglewood was definitely my favorite. I love the haunted mansion aesthetic and it also went on forever. The circus was probably the scariest.
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>>2825891
I don’t see how that gets them best food. Best value sure, but aren’t there plenty of parks with legit great sit down places?
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About time to bake
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>>2821942
>>2825891
great sandwiches and you can see them being assembled. absolutely massive too. didnt crash out from carbs or get hungry. yes their food is definitely the best for theme park d#
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>>2826026
>>2826026
>>2826026
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>>2820706
How the hell did this get 700+ replies?



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