What is living in NYC actually like?Redpill us American bros
Cool if you have a shitload of money, sucks if you're working poor (under $150k annual salary). Probably not too bad if you're poor and live in rent controlled apartments either.
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>>2821802American cities aren't worth the price you have to pay. For the highest cost of living in the world, you'd think you'd get a first world country in exchange. If you want to experience the best parts of America go to small towns with large universities. They're the only parts of small town America that have any life left in them because of all the young people that go there for college. Other than that small town America is every bit as drugged out and dystopian as our cities are. Suburbs are obviously boring as hell. America is generally a shitshow, but has occasional nice areas and we certainly have some of the most beautiful nature in the world imo. Not many countries with the kind of bio-diversity that we have.
>>2821802>What is living in NYC actually like? I used to live in Hoboken, NJ across the Hudson from Manhattan and took the PATH over daily for work. Commuting vai public transit kind of sucks but you do more biking, walking, using public transit, and a lot less driving. That's good and bad I guess in hindsight, I like walking to places more than being forced to always drive places but if you cook at home, grocery shopping is a much larger pain in the ass hauling groceries up six flights of stairs and you learn to live with less stuff. I don't like having to share space with the numerous future felons who lack any impulse control and fail to fight the urge to demand attention with ridiculous stunts, and being hassled by homeless losers who regular the dirty and late train/subway system that I am forced to pay for as a good citizen while the countless dregs and losers jump the MTA turnstiles. Japan's train system is heaven in comparison. Pay is high but cost of living will always be higher, I pay around 1/3 what I paid in rent in Hoboken now in a MCOL city in the Midwest, yes I make around 25k gross less a year but financially it doesn't even come close to touching the COLA difference, I currently put aside 35% of my 110k salary towards retirement alone. The food was better in NYC, the entertainment was better, flight availability was better, weather, nightlife, dating situation, and nature nearby in Jersey/PA is better than where I live now. But honestly I just cook at home, I can watch movies at home, I still have some moderate dating opportunities but it is far more full of fatties, single moms, and other aimless losers the rest of those you either outgrow or if you have been to the MET three times, it really doesn't make a difference visiting every few years vs living there. I hope to be able to retire in my early 40s right now, I would never be able to do that living in the NY metro as the value proposition there is far inferior.
>>2821965>If you want to experience the best parts of America go to small towns with large universitiesthose towns suck and are dead for a reason. no jobs and rampant poverty
>>2821802Living in NYC is amazing. Such a vibrant and diverse culture and you get to encounter so many different people from so many backgrounds from around the world.Don’t even get me started on how great the food is.People will say that the crime rate is a problem and probably something racist as well but it’s mostly oversta-ACK!
>>2821802looks amazing if you're on $150,000+ p/a
>>2821802I live in queens right now, about half an hour subway ride to times square, make about 90k. rent is half my total monthly pay. its great being surrounded by bars, comedy clubs, and restaurants, but i can't afford to go out regularly. I can party maybe once or twice a month because drinks are so damn expensive, it can easily be $10 a draft. there's a lot of great free community stuff near me like movie nights and potlucks but i don't really engage with it because its more family oriented and im a 32 year old loner. most people are pretty friendly but if you're too open its easy to get harassed by a homeless/crazy person or just some stupid teenager. i feel like i help someone or give directions on a daily basis, whether it be to an old person or a tourist. i work in construction (not as a laborer) but it feels kind of weird when all the laborers aren't speaking english, im the odd one out on long elevator rides. i play a game everyday where i count the number of languages i hear walking around, its usually around 5-6, and im getting better at recognizing them. the subway breaks down sometimes but i usually walk home from manhattan every day over the 59th street bridge, which is nice. i feel pretty safe in general, there's a few neighborhoods i wouldn't go to at night but none of them are near me. let me know if you have any specific questions.
>>2821965>Suburbs are obviously boring as hellSuburbs aren't meant for tourism and entertainment, they're meant for living in comfortably within a reasonable drive to the city without having city problems.
>>2822592>comfortablyWay too many people to have quiet suburban life now. >reasonable driveRoads are always filled up because of all the people on the road.
>>2822253College towns aren’t dead. They have endless tuition money flowing into them. And they do have jobs in various fields.
>>2822595>Way too many people to have quiet suburban life now.Average house size has fallen. So if anything there are fewer people in suburbs.>Roads are always filled up because of all the people on the road.Depends on the road.
>>2822738yes they are, i grew up in one. try sticking around durIng the summer
>>2822566I just moved here as a student over in the Bronx; any tips on the best places/bars to meet single women, preferably artsy types? I know the dating market here is more favorable to men since the demographic ratio skews more to women, but I don't want to bump into any of the materialistic types.
>>2822747Greenwich village is where all the art hoes we’re at when I was there in the early 2000’s
>>2822566crazy that there are so many people there that don't speak english or speak it so badly that they rather use their native language everyday. I work remotely for an US company as an engineer, and interface with an on site mexican eletrician, he lives there for 3y now, I speak better than him and I've never set foot in the US
>>2822592Suburbs are loud and crowded because no one can afford to live near their jobs and everyone is forced to drive all the time for everything.
I would kill myself if I lived anywhere else in the US. Muh college town! Muh rural areas! Muh (random tier 2 lame ass cheaper city)!" yawn. Lived in those places. Wanted to kms.
>>2822747>dating market here is more favorable to menhate to break it to you, but thats only true if you're rich. sure, there are more girls, but they're getting invited to rich guys parties where the girl guy ratio is 5 to 1, leaving the rest of the city pretty dry. if you want art hoes, or just hoes in general, id try brooklyn, but be prepared to spend a ton on drinks.>>2822753and its getting worse. the more that come the more normal it gets. nyc has always had enclaves of foreign language speakers but spanish is now spread across the entire city as the language of the lower working class.
>>2822595>>2822782just want to second this thought, suburbs are actually louder than cities. I moved from the suburbs to queens and it got noticeably quieter at night. not only are there less people driving in general, but the cops actually enforce noise laws here because its controllable. the suburbs aren't controllable because of how many people are on the road, and then the only moving violation that gets enforced is speeding, and you have to be doing 20 over to get pulled over. i also now live in a brick apartment building as opposed to a balsa wood house.
>>2822838yeah thats because you live in queens which is basically a suburb outside of lic and astoria
>>2823115right, astoria is where i am, its not a suburb at all
>>2822253They're fine the rest of the year though I agree with your point about summer. It's the state of our country though that most of our civilization honestly sucks right now>>2822592Our countryside isn't either and I would argue most of our cities aren't either.
How often do residents leave their particular borough? It seems like you could live a whole life in, say, Queens or the Bronx without visiting Manhattan, let alone going outside of NYC
>>2823312Hardly at all, which is one reason why people there are so out of touch with the rest of the country. Most New Yorkers hardly ever go anywhere besides their hood and to work, this is especially true if they are not white.
>>2821802I'd imagine it'd be quite depressing: it sucks ass, but at the same time you have the (unfounded) feeling you're in the best place on Earth, so you go "so this is it huh" and feel terrible.
>>2823401amazing history, amazing architecture, amazing parks, amazing museums, amazing sport, global cultural powerhouse...
>>2823415Yes and all mogged by literally any town in Europe in all of those categories (hence the "unfounded" feeling)
>>2821802If you have a living situation that isn't fucking insane (85%+ of living situations are terrible), then it's the best place on the fucking planet. Truly, as long as you can get a handle on a living and working situation that isn't fucked up and miserable, then it's baller even if you have no money.>>2822747Non materialistic artsy types in nyc? lol low chance my friend. Bushwick or pockets of art communities in like Queens are your best bet.
>>2823421except, not reallynew york has buildings from the 1600smost european towns are lucky if they have anything substantial from before the 19th century
>>2823455>most european towns are lucky if they have anything substantial from before the 19th centuryThere's literally buildings from 2k years ago.See pic rel, it's what you're doing right now (doubt you can read a graph, though)
>>2823421>all mogged by literally any town in EuropeLol. Europeans are a joke.
>>2823643>europe>leave house>there's a bar nearby with all your friends>US>leave house>miles and miles of suburbs>forced to take car>drive half an hour to reach anywhere decent>or just stay there and deal with your neighborsYou dont know any better so of course you think it's a decent life. It's fucking nightmarish bro
>>2823533Intelligent enough to know what 'most' and 'substantial' mean though loltell me what it's like down in the valley though ;)
>>2823646>New York City>leave house>there's a bar nearby with all your friends
>>2823650It's like that only in a few select cities in the US.Literally every single living settlement, from large cities to small towns, is like that in EU.
>>2823650>friendsmust be nice
>>2822753>>2822834>implying this is anything newNew York City had 18 languages spoken in it in 1643 when its population was 500. There was never time when it wasn't a linguistic melting pot.
>>2823646Europeans live in apartments or condominiums, not houses.
>>2823658Yeah, like the one being discussed, retard.>european education
>>2823762>today an American was retarded near me, just like every other day
>>2823762I'm Italian and I live in a house.>b-but there's others inside the same building!!Nobody but me in the entire property.Pic related is not my house, but I just picked a random house in my same province. They're all along the road like this
>>2823802>>2823762Some more pics.You go up to the city then yeah, inside the city center they're gonna be apartments or "split houses" with different families inside each.But outside the city along the main road it's all like this.Much better than US suburbia or Russia's commieblocks. And they're really cheap too.
>>2823801>>2823802>>2823803Nobody fucking cares. This thread is about life in New York City. Go to /int/ if you want reposts of reposts of reposts of decades old "banter".
>>2823949>make retarded statement >gets called out >HURR DURR NOBODY CARES
>>2823953You mean like this you've been doing this whole time?
>>2823803How is this better than suburbia? There's nothing even thereSometimes I feel like euros dont even understand what suburbia even is
