Which parts of the country should I go to in order to get a taste of old school France? I am aware Paris is now a shithole but surely there are some areas that are still fairly beautiful and safe?
>>2829912nice
>>2829912Loire valley (following the castles from Angers to Tour)Morbihan (Vannes, Guerande, La Baule, but avoid the rest of Britanny like Rennes or Brest)Perigord
Paris gets a bad rap. There are plenty of nice neighborhoods in the city. Muslims don't drink alcohol, so you don't see them in the neighborhoods with a bars. St Germain and the Marais are great. But the answer to your question is Annecy. I'd also recommend a lot of the small cities and towns on the Rhine. Selestat, Ribeauvillé, Riquewihr, Colmar, Eguisheim and Kaysersberg. Strasbourg is cool too.
The Pyrenees
>>2829967This or Massif Central (Cantal, Haute-Loire, Aveyron...). It's rural, hilly (sights), beautiful, not crowded, central so quite typically french.Annecy is an expensive overcrowded tourist trap even if it looks good. Bretagne is nice but filled with parisians and quite culturally distinct. Alsace is also not exactly what most people would imagine as "typically French". Loire Valley is okay but too centered around castles.
>>2829979The best places are typically going to be the most crowded. Expensive is relative. Annecy is significantly cheaper than Paris. You can find a hotel in Annecy for 75 euro any day of the week. A fantastic pizza at Voglia is 10 euro. A beer is 5 euro anywhere in town. I was there in 2023. There are a few prettier cities in France, but none in a better location.
>>2829979>Massif CentralBig parts of Massif Central are just depressing.Good scenery to go hicking (ie Puy de Sancy), but the towns are horrible.
>>2830009>I've visited the place once, trust me bro>Annecy is significantly cheaper than Paris>a pizza at Voglia is 10 eurosWhy are people on this board so consistently and confidently wrong>>2830046Massif Central isn't for big cities, but if you want old school France you shouldn't go to big cities anyway. Plus I don't enjoy spending my vacations in cities tbqh
>>2830049Forgot to mention that the menu at la Voglia sells pints of beer for 7 euros too. Yet another case of >let me tell you about your country
To be honest France is kind of a joke in the in-the-know, real elite traveler scene. I went there last year ironically and I was laughing the whole time at everything.
>>2830053At least it looks like you had a good time
>>2830053>real elite traveler scenekek
>>2830009>The best places are typically going to be the most crowdedYeah bro let's all go take selfies at the Mona Lisa and the Mannekin Pis, totally worth it
>>2830049The photo you posted shows a cheese pizza for 8.50. What am I missing?
I definitely believe that you're French. Only a French person could be so instantly hostile and unlikeable. There are at least 30 places in Annecy where you can get a 5 euro pint. You can also purchase beer or wine for cheaper at a grocery and drink it outside. Sounds like you don't know much about your own country.
>>2830049Are things so grim in France that a 13$ pizza is unaffordable for the locals?
>>2830132who the fuck gets a pizza and only gets a cheese pizza? >>2830153its more so the fact that the guy blatantly lied
>>2830153>Are things so grim in France that a 13$ pizza is unaffordable for the locals?yes, literally. Minimum wage is 9.40€ an hour there, compared to $15 in the US.
>>2830132The basic pizza is the margherita - and yet no one here eats margheritas, people would at least go for the 15 € ones.>>2830153When your monthly salary is below 2 k€ and your rent is 1 k€, 15 € feels like quite a hefty amount for a pizza. But also this >>2830154>>2830133>waaaaah I can't spread lies on fourchins! le bad frenchmanretard
>>2830224Minimum wage is 7.25 in the USA
>>2830153Honestly? Yes. There is a reason why people have been protesting since 2018. The prices of rents and groceries have doubled if not tripled, while wages are remaining stagnant.It was possible to rent a 20m2 studio apartment for 350€ a month 10 years ago, now it's minimum 650€ in any place that has jobs. A pack of pasta used to cost 0.50€, now it's 1.50€. Meanwhile, as a junior software dev I used to earn between 1500€ and 2000€ after taxes, and compared to most of my friends working at shitty jobs I was rich. If my salary was indexed over inflation, I would have earned 3000€ a month.Of course, the situation isn't as terrible as some Eastern Europe countries, and it's a phenomenon that happens all over the world, but now, I'm seriously considering moving out to a country with a lower CoL if I can get the same salary there. France is declining fast due to huge inequalities, and there is no sign it will get any better.Oh and special mention to restaurateurs complaining that nobody comes eat at their overpriced restaurants while paying their employees like shit and making them do unpaid overtime. It's the French business mindset in a nutshell.
