Soarin Across America Edition>Last Thread: >>2830791>What is this thread? Why are there two generals?/rcg/ was initially created as a way for the roller coaster enthusiasts on here to discuss all things roller coasters and theme parks. While roller coasters are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other theme parks, their rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /tpg/ comes in.>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?Absolutely! Disney/Universal discussion of all sorts including rides/resorts/dining/trip planning is OK.Park Crowd Tracker:>https://queue-times.com/en-US/parksRoller Coaster Database:>https://rcdb.com/Amusement Park News Sites:>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/>https://www.screamscape.com/>https://www.coaster101.com/Disney Park News:>https://www.wdwnt.com/>https://www.wdwmagic.com/>https://www.allears.net>https://www.mousesteps.comUniversal Park News:>https://www.insideuniversal.net
First for supporting regional parks!
>>2835606Wonder if this counts as my local park...>got a huge fine because they let a loaded train go around when they had taken part of the track outPaulton's Park is probably my actual local one
>>2835690Never actually been to Paultons Park but it's now got a great selection of family coasters and is branching out to white knuckle coasters with them getting the first new Eurofighter in ages
Post park soul
>>2835741mid to late 2000s HS is the most comfy place on earth for me
Threadly list of Disney/Universal announcements and dates for your convenience:Florida:>Zootopia 3D show opens at Tree of Life Theatre Nov 7, at least one animatronic (Clawhauser)>Monsters Inc. area opens 2027?> Dinosaur and Restaurantasaurus closing Feb 2, 2026>Front Tire Land replaces Tom Sawyer Island circa 2028>Animation Courtyard Closed for 'Walt Disney Studios Lot' refurb >Liberty Belle Steamship future plans unknown, but intact as of late Oct 2025>Big Thunder Mountain (Florida) refurb finishes in 2026 w/ Rainbow Caverns>Walt Disney robot coming to Carousel of Progress>Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin refurb until sometime 2026>Rock N' Rollercoaster: Muppets opens summer 2026, multiple animatronic Muppets confirmed (Scooter included)>Disney resort guests have FREE water park admission (Typhoon Lagoon) on their check-in day in 2025.>Volcano Bay closed thru Mar 24, 2026>Lost Continent demolition finally announced>Jurassic Park River Adventure closed Jan-Nov 2026.>RRR Replacement early 2027?California:>Fast and Furious roller coaster opens in Hollywood sometime in 2026>Mr. Lincoln shows when Walt is uncooperative. True rotation soon?>Mike & Sully closing 2026, becoming Avatar rideBoth:>Soarin' Over 'Murica by July 4 2026>Millenium Falcon: Smuggler's Run gets the flight rethemed to Mandalorian May 22, 2026Europe:>Disney Village & Disney Adventure World (Paris) overhauls with Frozen and Mary Poppins expansion at Paris to be completed 2026>Lion King Splash Mountain water ride at Paris Studio park, late 2027 at the earliest>Universal UK set for 2031Asia:>Multi-launch Spider-man coaster at Shanghai DL, no date yet>Spider-Man Drop Tower at Hong Kong DL, Doc Ock at some point>Wreck-It-Ralph omnirover shooter replaces the already closed Buzz Lightyear in Tokyo by April 2026>Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain currently closed until 2027 for ground-up rebuild>Tokyo maybe razing Adventureland 2026 or later?Did I miss anything?
>>2835764Sauce for Liberty Belle still being afloat:https://attractionsmagazine.com/magic-kingdom-cars-rides-piston-peak-frontierland-construction-disney-world/The armchair imagineer that is me says:Discovery Island is big enough to host the entirety of Tom Sawyer island, including the fort.Heck, add the old laser shooting range too.Rebuild it into TSI, have boats leave from Contemporary/Fort Wilderness/Wilderness Lodge, and you've got an instant budget destination that can probably be built for under $25 million if you salvage stuff from the existing TSA.Run some quick-serve stuff there, an old west trading post, and combined with other standard resort ameneties, you've just extended the time your guests stay and can get a few more dollars out of them too. It can also justify an entire non-park 'Old West' day on-site, split between:>Resort Pool>Visiting the new island>Tri-Circle D for a horseback trail ride>Archery>Hoop-De-Doo Revue>Ideally step aboard the Liberty Belle too, even if it is just in port at a resort, but would be really cool if it was equipped with a real steering mechanism and could tour Bay Lake (It's already just north of Bay Lake right now, it was towed all the way around).
I hope the James Bond stunt show at Universal UK is cool. Tough to top Waterworld, I suppose.
>ride dinosaur>all of the effects are actually working for the first time in yearsHoly shit the ride is so much better when half of it isn't broken.
>>2835871I'm assuming you dont mean the Pterradon cause if you do I'll be at Disney tomorrow
>>2835871It is truly a great, great, great ride. It really makes me sad it's getting rethemed. The museum style queue is S tier and it deserved better. The ride was the perfect amount of scary for families as well, scary for kids but not too over the top. F to a real nigga.
>>2835888Chuffs my ass I never got to experience the original asteroid impact ending with the smoke ring blast, however the giant carno head flying at you is pretty goated
>>2835594DisneySea isn’t in Orlando. Neither is Efteling, Europa, Dollywood and a long list of other parks that matter. I really hope the Orlando anons get better jobs this year. Both for better thread quality and because no one should see as little of the world as they do.
>>2835764Why don't you include non-Disney/non-Universal parks?
>>2835922None of the best parks of the Sea World / Disney / Universal chains is even in Orlando.
>>2835925I mostly agree but it’s not even about which park is the “best”. I watch lots of TV shows, not just my favorite. I eat lots of different kinds of food, not just my favorite. “I’ve already been to the best park so I’m just going to stay here” is something only a poor would say.
>>2835764>all these closed rides in Floridagoing to Florida again April 2026. was looking forward to JP River Adventure but hope it isnt becoming jurassic world retheme. also from social media it looks like Epic Universe is a waste of time unless you have fasttrack>>2835867just imagine they have to perfect this stunt to perform it 5 times a day
>>2835600Worth going to Energylandia in December? Don't wanna turn up and everything's closed, and have to hang out with Santa all day.
>>2835961Water rides close but you get all the Christmas stuff which they seem to go all out on.
>>2835978>that tfw when you can't ice skate and snowboard down the loge flume and slides
>>2835961How are coasters in the cold? Seems like they’d be worse. I’ve only ridden a few so far and it was much worse, granted I could have dressed better.
>>2835923That's your job.
>>2835925>best Disney is in Japan>best Universal is in Japan>best Sea World is in VirginiaWhy does Orlando exist?
>>2836007it doesn't have an off-season.Tokyo in January is not fun outdoors
Just a little under 2 weeks before my trip to Orlando for USF/Epic/IOA/Epcot. Got forced to buy express passes so not really worrying about lines. Any last minute tips?
>>2836010If you're on-site at Disney on any night, free entry to Typhoon Lagoon on your check-in day.Ride Jurassic Park before it closes for almost all of next year.If traveling with kids, the magic wand or Mario wristband app games might be worth it to you.I love Living with the Land and the actual Aquarium part of The Seas at EPCOT. Spend some time on the upper floor and just enjoy the fish, skip the ride tho lol.Food and Wine fest is still running while you're there.Just checked on a blog, apparently the Canada pavilion has a $10 Filet Mignon somehow. Must be tiny?Japan had a wagyu bowl for $9.50 tooAnd Mexico has a nice looking Tostada
>>2836007You must be confused here, epcot is in orlando, not japan.
>>2836012>Japan had a wagyu bowl for $9.50 too*American wagyu aka just regular beef and not wagyu at all. Always assume any place in american shilling wagyu is serving american wagyu unless they can prove without a doubt they are importing that shit from across the pond
>>2836004This isn't a Disney/Universal parks general.
>>2836024Be the change you want to see in this thread.
>>2836027This isn't just a Disney/Universal thread.
>>2836031>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?>Absolutely! Disney/Universal discussion of all sorts including rides/resorts/dining/trip planning is OK.
>>2836033>Are Disney and Universal the only theme parks in existence?
>>2836037No.Please post a list of the upcoming rides and refurbishments that you care about.
>>2836031Feel free to post your parking lot coasters but this thread is for the white man
>>2836012Crazy to me how Disney's food is both cheaper and better than Universal. Universal are out of their mind charging the prices they do, at least here in Hollywood. Nearly $20 for some okay chicken strips and fries, fuck off
>>2836039That won't change the fact that this is /tpg/ and /rcg/, which aren't exclusive to Disney and Universal
>>2836041So post about what you want to talk about.Tell me why I should visit (random park in nowhereville) to ride (actually pretty neat unique and/or vintage coaster).
>>2836042You should post updates and news about theme parks everywhere, not just Disney & Universal
>>2836043You should post updates and news about theme parks you care about.
Anyone ever been to Efteling in Netherlands? I'm not really a theme park autist, but this one looked cool, and I was thinking of going there as a day trip from Amsterdam. Worth it? And will I stand out like a weirdo if I go solo?
>>2836044This is /rcg/ and /tpg/, there are hundreds of parks and coasters with changes happening constantly, not just Disney and Universal
>>2836046Tell me about them.
>>2836048Just letting you know there are many more parks than Disney and Universal and they're worth providing updates about. Make a well-rounded news post instead of trying to make this your personal /dug/ thread
>>2836049Tell me more
>>2836050What would you like to know?
>>2835606Little Amerricka would probably be my actual local home park, as it's in my state but SFGAm has the same travel time. It is cute as a hodgepodge collection of 50s/60s flat rides and coasters.
>>2836053I'd like to try the roll-o-plane someday but it always has long lines.
>>2835925As long as Disney world doesn't do any major fuckups, I honestly think it can be the best again once all their current projects finish. Villains, Monsters Inc, Tropical americas, etc.
I've missed the chance to experience Halloween in the states, but I have two weeks off from the end of November to the end of the first week of December. Is there anything interesting I can do during that time?
Which Disney World resort should I stay at tomorrow night? Have AP, gonna hit MK first, then Animal kingdom, epcot, then back to MK
>>2836053I like the old woody there.Haunted house is just silly.The train ride is excellent and went way farther than I expected. Bonus points if they're running the steamer.
>>2836060Ask chatGPT
>>2836058Bruce Vaughn isn't a complete and total retard and Imagineering is in a way better spot than it was a even a year ago. I think most of the projects are gay and retarded HOWEVER I think they will be done reasonably well. For example, the EPCOT overhaul would have been exponentially better under Bruce than what we got (there's been some rumors that they might redo the overhaul because it was so bad). Cars land is an abomination but I think it will be a decent ride and will probably be a crowd pleaser despite ruining ROA.
>>2836045It's got some incredible dark rides but only a limited selection of coasters. Looks maximum comfy though, I was planning to go with family at one point.
Anything higher than 130ft is simple too tall for me and I will not ride it.
>>2836112
>>2836112>t. Disney passholder
>>2836015I didn’t say anything about Epcot. I did mention the best Disney, which is not Epcot.
>>2836045I haven’t been but I’ve heard it’s a must see. One of the few non-Disney/Universal parks that are on that level. I’m going next year.
>>2836051Since you’re incapable of reading between the lines, allow me to translate: that anon is not going to post updates about non-Disney/Universal parks. Sorry. Feel free to post them yourself though.
>>2836124>that anon(You) should post them. You clearly have more sources than I do.
>>2835606I went to Adventureland this past weekend. It was okay. I’m sure it’s good for the locals but I wouldn’t recommend anyone go out of their way for it.Monster (a Gerstlauer euro fighter infinity coaster) is supposed to be their coaster centerpiece but I didn’t care for it much. Very gimmicky. It likes to have barely enough speed to climb into its many inversions, resulting in a lot of long, slow hang time. But for me that’s more eyebrow raising than truly thrilling. Other than the steep first drop there’s not much else to it.Their two woodies were closed. Flying Viking is just a family coaster but the queue has cool viking photos and facts on the wall. Phoenix is Laff Trakk with no theming, but I really like that model. Underground is a dark ride about a mine. A bit too loud and too fast to really take in, but the pre-show was great. The surprise of the day for me was Dragon Slayer, a small S&S 4S free spin. I expected it would be less of a ride than the Six Flags ones because it was smaller, but it was actually more. I must have gotten 20 spins. Nothing else was noteworthy. Good local family park.
>>2835741
>>2836125I don’t read theme park news websites. They seem really clickbaity. Anything important will get posted about on 4chan. I’ve stuck to that my whole life and I see no reason to stop.
>>2836131>theme park news websitesI made no mention of those. You should give updates on all parks, not just Universal and Disney.
>>2836132I don’t give any updates at all.
>>2836143Yes you do.
>>2836129Universal desperately needs to refurb this area. The paint is super faded and it looks kind of run down.
>>2836148Sorry anon. Your samefag detector is off today.
>>2836220I actually know someone who works there and have the inside scoop on this. They repaint it several times a year. The Florida sun is just brutal on it. You probably just caught it on one if the days just before they painted it again.
>>2836045I went a year ago, and it was easily the best park I've ever been to, although the people I was with didn't care for it. It's not the greatest ride lineup in the world, but the atmosphere and theming is second to none. Their fairly tale forest is amazing, and you can easily spend hours in it if you enjoy theming/animatronics. If you're gonna be in the area, I'd definitely recommend it.
>>2836221meant for >>2836211
Apparently Indy at Disneyland makes you wear these huge as fuck lanyards if you go in the single rider line now
>>2836263Guessing they don't separate the single riders line enough and everyone was just pretending they were in the regular queue at the end.
>>2836263Cant wait for the mandatory penis inspection from an incel sniffing dog before boarding
>>2836211They recently did. They've actually been refurbing and painting a lot of stuff at Islands recently. Port of Entry looks brand new in certain places. They've been reading my survey comments
>>2836263>>2836268>get in the regular standby line to avoid the mandatory penis inspection>wait an hour>get to the grouper>"how many in your party?">j-just one>"sorry sir but this isn't the single rider line, you'll have to go back to the front of the attraction and get in the correct line"
>>2836269What are you saying in the surveys
>>2836271>still fail the penis inspection
>>2836272All kinds of shit man. All kinds of shit.
>>2836220Okay but this is /rcg/ /tpg/, not /dug/, so updates on parks that aren't Disney/Universal are needed and welcome
>>2836223I love fairy tale shit. It sounds great.
for me, it's people watching through the windows at the columbia harbour house second floor that goes over the outdoor walkway below.
>>2836293I'm glad that there are still some comfy secluded spots in the parks that haven't been ruined by youtubers yet, I ate there like a month ago and it was just me and one other group upstairs.
>>2836293sovlnukeEven with all the retardation of nuDis there is still so much soul and comfyness littered throughout the resort that haven't been ruined by eceleb faggots
>>2836293>>2836296>>2836304I hope they do get ruined. And it's just a matter of time until they do
>>2836312I'm sorry you're a joyless miserable faggot that will die alone one day. Fuck off.
>>2836314Enjoy your infantile play space for now. In a year or two everyone will have found out about it
>>2836276Okay
On the low I kinda miss the google maps guy
HHN lost all its aura when they stopped airing snuff film commercials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwTcJi9Uwohttps://youtu.be/nZ908sh_TSwhttps://youtu.be/eOo_UPnSdpkhttps://youtu.be/iE9_Xp9H114
/ourguy/ made a new video comparing the capacity of the rides at the Florida parkshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98mpvE5_Bhs
>>2836392>45 minutesHow much of a loser do you have to be to watch that
>>2836392>borderline e-ticket family coaster based off of a popular ip at 960>yoshi is only 1028 despite being a constantly loading omnimoverdid they not think that nintendo would be the most popular land?
>>2836399Yoshi was designed to kill british tourist but an engineer decided lots of deaths would be too suspicious so he scaled it back. He was executed yakuza style for this change. Please understand it can't be helped.
>>2836045Efteling is my childhood park, obviously I'm biased but I love this park. I've been plenty of times, most recently about two months ago (pic related). If you enjoy theme parks at all you owe it to yourself. Maybe less so if you're a coaster thoosie specifically (Walibi Holland might be more your speed in that regard) since its claim to fame is the god-tier dark rides. It's seen as one of the best in Europe, if not the world, for good reason.
>>2836066>>2836223>>2836494That actually sounds great. I'm way more interested in atmosphere and comfy vibes over just roller coasters.
>>2836396Seems perfect to listen to as a podcast as I'm doing some house/yardwork.
>>2836376Was HHN one of the original Halloween fests? Just wondering because it’s such a generic sounding name compared to competitor events like Howloscream or Halloweekends.
>>2836392Why would Sea World even be in that video? Not a fair comparison. They don’t pay near as much as the other two and don’t charge near as much for admission.
>>2836502Howl o Scream started 1999 as "Spooky Safari" before being rebranded as HOS the next year.
>>2835925This is gaslighting, and I won't participate.
>>2836516Where is HowloScream
>>2836518Gran Fiesta needs a complete remodel and total removal of screens.
>>2836520Did you even read my fucking post
>>2835741Liberals are assholes. Especially young white male ones.
>>2836518I like dis ride
>>2835922>>2835925>Orlando doesn't have the best parksIf these bots take over the thread, I'm leaving. It's one thing if they have some basis for an argument but this is outright gaslighting. If this thread devolves into that I'll just leave. I am trying to get away from social media anyway. Too many liberals.
>>2836526This is my favorite ride. I love the short wait.
>>2836522No I assumed it would be on the graph.
>>2835600Believe it or not, but Kentucky is looking to be a huge destination. I went there for the Creation Museum, and believe it or not I had a great time. Everything is kept immaculate.
>>2835600Flying Fox is even making ad rounds in Florida
>>2836521Why? No it doesn't
>>2836527While many people believe Orlando has the best Disney, Universal, and SeaWorld parks, this statement is actually not entirely accurate. Other locations around the world provide more advanced attractions, cleaner environments, and better guest satisfaction overall. For example, international parks often feature superior theming and cultural integration that surpass Orlando’s offerings. Therefore, it can be concluded that Orlando is not objectively the best destination for theme park experiences.
>>2836494It looks cute but needs more worlds and a larger budget
>>2836392Excellent video. Thanks.
>>2836293Its so pretty.
>>2836296By talking about it here, more people know about that spot now.
>>2836304Gorgeous shot of MK Space & Tron
>>2836527Kek, you’re the exact embodiment of that /tv/ meme. Fun fact anon: no Orlando park has ever won the Golden Ticket Award for Best Park. That has been Europa Park every year for over a decade now.
>>2836527>disneyland-resort-paris-paris-france-main-street-usa-and-sleeping-beauty-castle-at-disneyland.jpgWouldn’t a picture of an Orlando park have been a better choice?
>>2836535Odds are that anon has never been to any of the international parks you’re thinking of. Orlando residents tend to have fairly low incomes compared to their cost of living. Whatever disposable income that anon has is likely already allocated to buying Disney, Universal, and Sea World annual passes (Orlando parks only), so there’s no money left for world travel. “Orlando has the best parks” is a self defense tool he uses to convince himself that he isn’t missing anything in other countries anyway. tl;dr pic related
>>2836545Almost like the Golden Ticket Awards are for bringing attention to smaller parks more then anything else.
>>2836553Even if you stay within the states, the best Disney and SeaWorld parks still aren't in Orlando. And that's not even counting parks like Knoebels and Dollywood
>>2836567So true bestie
This stupid debate doesn't even factor in on-property resorts. At any rate, the point needs to be more clearly stated as "Orlando is the best city to live in if you like theme parks". End of line.
>>2836560>more then
I want to rant a little about the Tron ride, particularly the supposed overlay for the new movie. To start, I really love the new movie (Tron: Ares). I've seen it in theaters 6 times and I've had the soundtrack on repeat since day one. I knew that the lightcycle run ride at Magic Kingdom was doing an overlay for Ares so I avoided spoilers and waited to ride it til after I saw the movie (since the overlay came out long before the movie actually did). I got my chance to ride it multiple times yesterday. Long story short, my bar was set pretty low and Disney still couldn't meet my standards.I knew and accepted as far as ride overlays go this one was going to be pretty "lazy" -the only expectation was that they would change the ride audio to the new movie soundtrack and the LED lights red to match. Somehow Disney fucked both of these up.Firstly, the canopy would seemingly never actually turn red. Of the promo pics I did see, it was fully red so that's what I was expecting but I saw it only one time as I was exiting so I wasn't sure if it was even real. The ride had been down for a considerable time when I got there so I waited and watched the default light show multiple times. There are thin hexagonal light strips installed along the interior that do turn red as the train passes but it's so minimal in a sea of blue you hardly notice it especially while riding. I don't understand why they couldn't just turn it red and leave it red. Probably some twit worried about the "story" implications if riders see it red and the queue is all blue. No problems with the launch or indoor section at least.Perhaps more important is the music, it was simply not loud enough. I forget if the default onboard music was just as quiet or not but this was only loud enough to make out the song. Also, I rode it 3 times to see if they rotate through different tracks but they do not. The song they did pick is one of my favorites so it hurts more that it wasn't coursing through my veins.
>>2836553It always cracks me up that people from the shithole East are this arrogant about specifically money.Let me make this clear: a White trailer redneck girl here will always be superior to the best, most wealthiest, yellow brown or black of what you have to offer.
>>2836293>My favorite chill spot is gone forever, replaced with talking cars.Kill me.
>>2836749>wasnt generating shareholder value Had to go, sorry
>>2836545Golden Ticket is a meme that is known to be paid off by companies wanting to promote their attractions
Zootopia show looks abysmal. The Pandora jewelry sponsorship is the cherry on top
What is the worst rollercoaster name?
>>2836896Rougarou ValravnRakshasaTormentaFury 325 (lazy)Scream! (laziest)
Some footage of Zootopia Better Zoogether is out therehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSNVC4rk8jU
>>2836910Way too much of that is moving footage 3D that shatters the immersion.
Want to buy a theme park for £3m?https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78zmgd429ro>Remove all the adult rides to focus on kids>remove the former record breaking Ultimate>it inevitably fails just like the last time someone did this in a UK park because no one wants to visit a park that has been made shitI feel if they'd left The Ultimate and The Rat/Raptor Attack, they could've had some buyers, now it's just going to be bought by speculators trying to get it re-zoned.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9DMUpiwn3s
>>2836915The Ultimate was an interesting coaster to say the least and I would have rode it given the chance, but it had some really dumb parts of its design that made it obvious people with coaster designing experience weren't involved.Normally there's a way to accelerate a coaster out of the station quickly in order to clear the block to get the next one in. Either feed motors or a small drop just outside the platform are used to get the train going. The Ultimate had neither and takes a while to get to the lift.Both lifts are atrociously slow as well, coupled with the slow speed out of the station, results in reduced throughput.The first drop doesn't have any curvature to it, just a straight drop to the bottom, reducing negative G forces to nil.At the top of the second lift, there's a section of straight track, then a dogleg left, and more straight track to get to the drop. Normally there would be a small drop to give the train a little bit of inertia to coast over to the drop, but the designers just used more very slow chain drives instead, which again slows down the cycle time and adds unnecessary mechanical components.The trains' speed before reaching the second lift and main brakes has been bled off so much there's no thrill by the time you arrive at those sections. It doesn't even have the momentum to enter the station without another lift at the end (which is as slow as the other chain drives). This lift is effectively the main brake, which is another quirk of the ride.However, having it run as a terrain coaster through beautiful British countryside was unique and probably what made the ride worth getting on. Just wish the park had the money to pay for an established manufacturer to design it. With a better layout it would have likely been much more popular.
>>2836920Terrain coasters are under-rated. It's as shame we don't see more of them, especially for family coasters.
last day for six flags america
https://x.com/Parkeology/status/1985087052543582265?t=N8IDDC_SDhnwjQbLed303Q&s=19
>>2837244I don’t understand your post. But I want to.Can you explain?
>>2836915Lightwater Valley is my "local" park, it's still 1.5 hours away so I only went a handful of times as a kid and with school, and honestly it was a pretty good park 10/15 years ago. The Ultimate and Raptor ride (both long since removed) were the highlights of course but there was definitely enough there to make a fun day out for most ages. Then they absolutely raped it into the ground and removed everything that made it unique. It's a shame that it'll probably end up going into administration because the North East/Yorkshire region of England is a bit of a dead zone for theme parks but I can't see how it'll stay open.
>>2837244Animal Kingdom's parking lot has different zones, each being named after a different animal. Many of the animals they chose are in direct reference to either an area or attraction at the park. Famously the Unicorn parking lot was supposed to reference the never-built beastly kingdom area in the park. The history of Beastly Kingdom is long and convoluted but essentially AK was originally supposed to be built around 3 distinct types of animals:Animals of the past (dinosaurs)Animals of the present (normal zoo animals)Animals of the Imagination (dragons and unicorns)As they built out Animal Kingdom, they ran out of money once they had to start paying to feed live tigers before the park was open, so they switched gears and suspended construction on Beastly Kingdom, putting a shitty kids playground there instead. The other two areas got built though, being the Dinosaur area and the Zoo areas. So the Unicorn parking lot, the dragon in the logo, and the dragon head over the entrance were all built with the idea that one day the area they already designed called Beastly Kingdom would be built, but it never was. So the park is kind of a goldmine for people who like the abandoned concepts and never built rides aspect of theme park autism. It's littered with probably the last bits of the imagineering golden age and they're just sitting there rotting, waiting to be bulldozed for more IP slop. In regards to the tweet, he's saying that having a parking lot named after you is a bad omen. Beastly Kingdom was never built, The Bugs Life show was just removed for Zootopia, The whole Dinosaur land is on the chopping block. The Yeti parking lot was built in 2014 as an expansion, but it's referencing the yeti animatronic that broke shortly after being built and has been SBNO for like 20 years.
>>2837268The Beastly Kingdom rabbit hole is probably the most kino theme park rabbit hole to fall down. So many cool concepts that just died out of the womb. That fact that literal mythology has itself become myth is pretty unique as far as theme park "what could have beens" go
>>2837244>Joe Rohde subtly implying that there is nothing in the way of fixing the yeti, Disney just doesn't want to spend the money to do so.
>>2836874>>2836910the bugs life show wasn't good. the only redeeming value of it was listening to first-timers scream because they had no idea what they were getting into
>Shanghai Disney Resort is embarking on another ambitious expansion project, unveiling plans for a fourth themed hotel and a vibrant extension of Disneytown’s shopping, dining, and entertainment experiences. https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/shanghai-disney-resort-expansion/
>>2837291I doubt the internal servos and other components have been maintained for the past 20 years so even if they did fix the structure its mounted on, it probably wouldn't be as simple as flipping it to A mode. I dont think the cost benefit analysis of doing a new animatronic is worth it there as the only thing the modern disney guest gives a fuck about is IP. The passholders would coom but those retards buy the pass every year regardless of the Yeti's function Only way it'll ever happen is if some tech trillionaire that grew up a disney fan literally buys disney and it's like their passion project.
>>2837292It wasn't a masterpiece by any means but still better than the slop that replaced it. Ideally the replacement could have been an American Adventure style animatronic show worthy of being in the park icon, but we all know how Iger is.
>>2837173Superman apparently broke down for good with three hours' worth of people left in lineA very fitting end for the park
>>2837305Lol ownedThat really would blow though if you'd been savoring one last ride on it. It won't be relocated
>>2836263>sorry anon that's the policy now, you must wear the singles badge to make sure other guests know you are a dangerous weirdo
>>2837343lol
>>2837257It's a shame just how many of these smaller parks we've lost. American Adventure, Camelot, Lightwater Valley, Oakwood. At least Flamingoland is going strong but that's become more of a caravan park than just a theme park.When I was packing up for a move I found a bunch of photos from American Adventure and Camelot from when I went there as a kid, I may scan and post some of them at some point.
>>2837364I had no idea there was an America-themed park in the UK
>>2837370It was pretty comfy but got into a doom spiral. It's criminal that Nightmare Niagra has 0 PoV videos, especially as it had dark ride elements. The Missile still exists (in Pleasurewood Hills) at least.The Expedition Extinct vid is good on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwV3VWBnpDUDoesn't mention how badly it got fucked over by the local council though, they basically refused all attempts to build major new rides
>>2835600https://youtu.be/3MWtg4-phDc?si=VZn3ls82FEFVmgG-
>>2837294Wouldn't it be horrific if China took over Disney
>>2836553>a whole ugly drawing>a whole entire paragraphImagine how much work and effort this idiotic take was.
>>2835600https://youtu.be/u7E6nGHBkCc?si=42iU3RLlMMzI7xPR
>>2835600I miss this place. It was so relaxing. https://youtu.be/x2y0M2I7GGg?si=6mJQ9YIoGmC5E29M
>>2837463>>2837466>>2837468bot
>SFGAm passholder surveys went out>giga coaster is on the surveyOh boy, here we go again.
>>2837541I'm not a six flags guy. Do they actually listen to these surveys and build what wins the polls or is it just to gauge potential interest of shit they're already considering?
ANNOUNCE THE GODDAMN FAST AND FURIOUS ORLANDO COASTER ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEEE
Japan trip anon here, currently waiting to get into Tokyo Disneyland. Apparently there's a Duffy merch drop happening in DisneySea so most people are heading over there. Hopefully this means lines won't be too insane. We're gonna rope drop Beauty and the Beast. Will report back in at the end of the day.
>>2837568>We're gonna rope drop Beauty and the BeastThat's a risky choice. Hope it works out for you.
>>2837558It depends, I know for sure Alpenfury was originally on a survey and so is the Ka replacement but I'm sure plenty of survey options haven't been built
>>2837568My hatred of Duffy will aid me when I visit.
Looking at my upcoming trip and there's chances of thunderstorm for the day I go to Epic. Am I worrying too much.
>>2837558Idk. For a major coaster though, the lead time is 3-5 years from start to completion. If a park asked "Do you want a giga?" last off-season and one opened next year, they had already been working on it for years. Smaller coasters and flat rides don't take as long.
>>2837649There's a chance of thunderstorms almost every day in Florida, usually they're done in less than an hour
>>2837558There have been rumors about Great America getting a gigantic for probably a decade now, mostly due to enthusiasts whining about it being a park stacked with "supporting" coaster but no "headliner." Having the only twister layout B&M hyper, a topper track RMC, and arguably the fastest acceleration launch coaster on the planet atm isn't enough.
>>2837718>Having the only twister layout B&M hyper, It's alright but truth be told, it's just another B&M hyper>a topper track RMC,40 second run time from top of lift to the brakes>and arguably the fastest acceleration launch coaster on the planet atm isn't enough.25 second run time from launch to brakes
>>2837732That's kind of my point. The last time SFGAm had a legit showstopper was when they introduced the B&M invert with Batman, but that was quickly overshadowed when it got cloned everywhere.Also for other B&M hypers I've only been on Apollo's Chariot and Diamondback so far but found them both underwhelming compared to Bull.
>Enchanted Tale of Beauty and the Beast is the best dark ride I've ever been on, full stop. Blew me away to be honest. Perfects the trackless dark ride formula in a way that makes Pooh's Hunny Hunt (which is still very cute and fun) look ancient by comparison. Also we waited 80 minutes which is the shortest wait it ever had throughout the entire day, so ropedropping was a good idea.>Monster's Inc Ride & Go Seek is very cute and worth doing at least once for how unique it is, but honestly not worth the long wait it gets (while also having the most boring queue)>Splash Mountain is an instant classic and I am now retroactively upset they got rid of it in the US. I finally understand you Americans.>Didn't realize just how extensive of a retheme Haunted Mansion Holiday Nightmare is. Actually really fun.>First time doing Roger Rabbit’s Car Toon Spin, very fun as a fan of the movie, but jesus christ is it chaotic and unhinged.>Crowds were pretty intense for what was supposed to be a quieter week. Doesn't bode well for DisneySea the next two days, but we'll see.>So many excellent animatronics in this park. Special mention to Stitch in their version of the Tiki Room and my nigga Tony Solaroni
>>2837744Also, construction of the new Space Mountain in full view. I think it'll look gorgeous when it's finished, it's very impressive in person.
>>2837649Florida thunderstorms are extremely comfy, especially at the parks. Don't be gay about it.
>>2837760Floridafag here. I kinda disagree. They're fun to a point, but if you wanna do all the rides in one day, having random ride closures fucks all that up. Only 3 rides and the shows at epic are storm-proof which seems like an oversight but islands has the same issue and they dont give a fuck
>>2837741Oh I misunderstood you, lol. I never understood why SFGAm got high marks from enthusiasts, at least in the past. So many of their rides were clones or were clearly intended to be clones.Batman: cloneDark Knight: standard wild mouse (their 2nd)Flash: cloneGoliath: intended to be clonedJoker: cloneMaxx Force: intended to be clonedSuperman: cloneViper: copy of the Coney Island Cyclone, which a handful of parks built around the same timeX-Flight: intended to be clonedOf their custom coasters, Demon, Whizzer, and American Eagle just aren't that great, Whizzer has some charm to it though (even if it was a clone). And all of them are pretty old and their demise is going to be sooner rather than later. Rakshasa, another ho-hum dive machine. I guess when B&M hypers were still a novelty, Raging Bull carried the park by itself.
There is absolutely zero off-season with this park. A random tuesday after halloween when most people are at work or school and the place is just packed.
>>2837770It's a brand new park with serious capacity issues, what do you expect? Epic desperately needs a couple of slower people eaters.
>>2837568I want to say what the fuck is with them with Duffy then again we have Figment
>>2837782Figment's got a distinct design and Banjo-Kazooie style autism surrounding him, Duffy is just a generic teddy bear with some Hidden Mickey motifs.Even Orange Bird is a more distinct "Cute mascot that mostly just exists for merch" character then Duffy.
USH was such a disappointment for the price. Some of the rides were incredibly short too. You basically pay for stand in line.
>>2837770unless you go labor day week an express pass is required for visit. rope drop stardust and do both sides with the standby line, then do whatever you want whenever you want thanks to express and then use your stardust express pass at night.
>>2837770>Going to resort theme parks>Being surprised people are going there during vacations and not just a regional park where locals go on weekends
>>2837871This is my local theme park tho
>>2836560Europa Park is enormous.
>>2836615>>2837465>you’re… yellow!>you’re… idiotic!Yep, definitely got under the Orlando poors’ skin with that one.
>>2837767I see some enthusiasts pointing out that they lack an elite coaster. I think Maxx qualifies for this but I do get its short. But don’t super launch coasters like that tend to be?I get the ones who like it too though. There’s a lot of very good even if you don’t consider any to be elite.
No time for a proper post cause I desperately need to rest for my final day tomorrow, but Tokyo DisneySea legitimately is the best theme park I've ever been to, holy fucking shit, crowds be damned
BGT just announced an animal habitat expansion for 2026, confirming that a giga is not coming any time soon...
>>2838020Stop gaslighting us or I’m leaving the thread anon. The best parks are in Orlando and DisneySea is not in Orlando, or even in Florida.
>>2838040Oh nice they've been reading my survey responses. Yeah the animal enclosures at BGT are pretty much animal jail at the moment and it was just a matter of time before PETA or whatever makes a black fish type documentary about the sorry state of the enclosures. The hippo and nile crocodile also need larger cages.
>>2838041He's right. DisneySea is the top dog and could only potentially be contested for it by Epic 10 years from now once the park is "fixed" and has at least one expansion, if not a whole sister park.
>>2838020Glad you liked it, anon. It really is incredible. I was worried that I over hyped it when I went, but it still blew me away. I do wish it had a solid coaster, but that's the only flaw I can think of.
>>2837770>yo how much capacity should our family coaster based on one of the most recognizable video game characters off all time have?>uuuh how about less than the 30 second omnimover made for 2 year olds?>perfect
>>2838046DisneySea is not in Orlando and is therefore not in the conversation for best park.
I feel like my quality of life is lower because I don’t live near an elite coaster. When I was at Kennywood a guy told me he lived 12 miles away and I haven’t been able to stop thinking about it. This guy can just go ride Phantom’s Revenge whenever he wants. He can be out at the outlet mall or whatever the fuck, check the Kennywood app on his phone, notice it’s a slow day, and catch a few rides on Phantom on his way home. Not to mention three great woodies and Steel Curtain. Oh and that launch coaster which is really fun. I have too much family here to relocate but I wish I could live somewhere like Harrisburg and have fuckloads of coasters within a 3 hour drive.
>>2838059It's a bit amusing the only real coaster is a Pinfari clone (is Journey considered a cred by the autists?). It's a bit of a gap in the park's lineup. Question is what to include. Crush's Coaster would fit anywhere but it has garbage capacity and it being a mostly off the shelf layout is probably something the OLC would hate. Maybe do a Frozen and make it the ride it should be with a custom layout, better theming and multi-car trains? Better yet, use the Cosmic Rewind system for it (I imagine if they made is slower and dippier they could make it much more compact).
>>2838094It's time to face the facts that the Asian and European parks have began to pull ahead in certain regards.
>>2838211A Taron-like coaster through Lost River Delta would be awesome, but there likely isn't room for it. It'll probably remain a gap in the park's lineup for the foreseeable future, but at least the rest of the park is excellent enough to make up for it.
>>2838264>replying to bait
>he didn’t get married in front of his favorite coaster
>>2838352>guys check out my reddit chungus lardass wife
After two full days at DisneySea I can confidently say it truly is the best theme park I've been to. The only real downside is the long wait times, but with some smart plays and a little luck we were able to do everything we wanted, even including re-rides of some of the biggest rides (worth noting both Indiana Jones and Journey to the Center of the Earth were closed tho).>Fantasy Springs might honestly be the best area, with some of the best rides we did in either park.>Frozen was super solid. I was underwhelmed when I saw videos of it when it opened because scenes seemed sparse, but the ride experience is totally different. Does some ingenious things with the track layout on the backwards sections. We rope-dropped this on the first day and only waited 30 minutes compared to the usual 180.>Peter Pan might honestly be the best ride in the park, which I never saw coming. It's the best blend of 3d video screens and physical sets I've ever seen, where most of the time you literally can't tell which is which. We did this one four times kek>Rapunzel was really cute and I love the outdoors section, but honestly too short to be worth the long waits.>Sindbad was super charming. I thought it was gonna be smaller but the show scenes are actually pretty big, with way better animatronics than you would expect >Raging Spirits isn't anything crazy but I love how intense and elaborate the theming is compared to the wet fart in Paris>Love how many little explorable areas there are on the sides, like the giant boat in American Waterfront or the big fortress in front of the volcano. That's something I was really missing in Tokyo Disneyland.>Lots of streetmosphere and characters walking around, we had plenty of interactions throughout both days.>Nighttime show was pretty mid>I wanna eat another gyoza dog stat>Holy shit this place is massive, my feet got fucked up. Be prepared to walk a LOT.
>>2838512That is a very slow coaster for being themed to a franchise about going fast and furious
USH has so many weird attractions and shows in their history that only existed for like 5 years.
>>2838527It might not be ramped up to its service speed yet, but that wouldn't be much faster if so. I had the same thought. Looks underwhelming from the ground but I'd still give it a shot.
>>2838540Says it should hit 72mph on the official website so maybe there's another part that hits that speed similar to how velocicoaster has "two parts"
What are japanese jet coasters like? I'm thinking of visiting Universal Studios next time I'm there but I'm wondering how they are and if there are any other parks with more rides (Universal and Disney are more about events and showcases than a regular amusement park)
LET’S GET THIS SHIT STARTED>six flags
>>2838589Wonder what's going on. I think park attendance nationwide is down this year compared to last, but it's not down that much
>>2838589All Great Adventure btw
Mrbeast challenge for thoosies:Last to leave a rollercoaster. You and dozens of other hardcore thoosies are strapped to a coaster which runs nonstop except for 5 minute bathroom breaks every 2 hours. Last person to leave wins the entire park containing said coaster (or equivalent cash value).Do you think you could win such a challenge? Which coaster/park would you pick?Meta answer is some baby coaster in a high value park, like Barnstormer at Magic Kingdom, but I want more interesting answers. No I'm not a paid mrbeast intern looking for video ideas.
>>2838603Stuff like that has been done before numerous times for a new car or a few thousand in cash
>>2838605You could also just answer the question, Anon
>>2838603>Mr Beast temporary pop up mini theme park>In fucking Saudi ArabiaReally why
>>2838603This is so soulless and disgusting but everything about Saudi Arabia's attempt to recategorize itself as a tourism economy feels this way.
>>2838609Whenever I look up videos of arab theme parks, they're always empty. Why do these gets built? Are there really that many tourists in desertland?
>>2838619>Why do these gets built?Government funds them because they are trying desperately to become a tourism economy before the oil reserves dry up. They can basically overpay investors and industries to make anything they think people will like such as esports, theme parks, sports, etc. They're betting big on places like india and SEA stepping more into the first world over the next century and sending them travelers. It's pretty funny watching american corporations that are publicly "woke" and progressive accept arab oil money from a nation that executes gays.
>>2838600They pretty much decline to charge for attendance or parking. Buying a season pass to 40+ Six Flags parks is cheaper than buying a day pass and parking to one Six Flags park. But they’re gonna make up for it on food right? Nope. Their food plans are similarly generous. So what are they even making money on? Fast passes to cut down the lines that are only there because they give away admission for free? Soda? Merchandise (lol)? Six Flags hates money, so it should be no surprise they’re losing it.
>>2838619It makes me so pumped for Falcon’s Flight. Hopefully I’ll be able to marathon it like Arieforce One. >>2838621They probably won’t run out of oil. What’ll happen is oil will stop being so valuable. The continued push for renewables, nuclear power and EVs will eventually reduce the demand for oil significantly. They’re trying to copy UAE, but UAE isn’t rich because they pumped a lot of oil. They did it the old fashioned way: a favorable climate for business, low taxes being relatively open minded for the region. Saudia Arabia offers none of these.
>>2838633I always thought their season pass prices were too low, but it's been their strategy going back to at least the 90s. Even 3x the price of a single day ticket seems low, and they've been less than 2x the single day price for so long that it attracted the low-income demo, which drove away families and the middle class. I don't know how they can get out of their situation, and I don't think they know either. The merger only cut some full time managerial jobs and they've yet to make money on the closing of SFA. Glad I don't work there
>>2838636And that’s about when they stopped building new parks. They had no bankruptcies before then. Coincidence? Even as a kid I remember seeing the signs for $30 season passes on top of one day ticket had to be wrong.
>>2838640They stopped building parks in the early 70s, all their parks since then have been bought out
>>2838640You do not get parks anymore because metropolitan areas can only support really 1 major regional amusement park, maybe 2 if it is a big metropolitan area (outside the resorts in California/Florida since they get a lot of national/international tourists), and pretty much every single one has their park now. And even then ones like Six Flags America cannot survive because it eats into Kings DominionThere are very few places left one could be built
>>2838636Subscription pricing is all the rage among MBA types. Locking you into an '''ecosystem'''' is far more valuable than having an unpredictable set of customers.I'm guessing the numbers work as somebody will think 'oh this is cheap' and make the purchase, then not really utilise it. Power users are edge cases.
>>2838589Is this the result of the decision to buy the Texas and Georgia parks outright?
>>2838603Eejanaika. I'm not gonna win, I just want to see the results.
Nashville could use a theme park.I’m surprised nobody has done it.They did away with Opryland about 25 years ago.
>>2838540>>2838527That's just after the initial launch isn't it? That element was always likely to be the slowest bit of the track and the turning cars simulating a powerslide should still make it a pretty fun element. These are heavy cars so it's going to be closer to GotG in terms of speed, focusing more on momentum than sudden acceleration (outside of the launches)
First ebin universe expansion confirmed. People are saying that the size fits the expansion space in ministry so it's probably that.
>>2838802Seems weird to expand it after just opening it doesn’t it?
Cedar Fair was in talks to merge with SeaWorld right before the Blackfish scandal.
>>2838816I think they're just desperate to solve the extremely limited capacity causing absurd wait times.
>>2838818>could of>should of
>>2838816Most parks have significant expansions a few years after opening. All of the Disney parks have had them>Matterhorn/Subs: 4 years after opening>Space Mountain: 4 years after opening>Living Seas: 4 years after opening>Big Thunder (Tokyo): 4 years after opening>Tower of Terror: 5 years after opening>Space Mountain (Paris): 3 years after opening>Dinorama: 4 years after opening>Tower of Terror (DCA): 3 years after opening>Tower of Terror (Tokyo): 5 years after opening>Tower of Terror (Paris): 5 years after opening>Small World (Hong Kong): 3 years after opening>Toy Story Land (Shanghai): 2 years after opening
>>2838816Think about it: you’ve finished 75% of your park. You could open it now and start making your investment back, or you could keep it closed until you’re all the way done and make no money. What would a public corporation do?
>>2838824>>Space Mountain: 4 years after openingTo a lesser extent Pirates of the Caribbean Florida opening two years after opening, what with it originally having been held back since they were wanting to do the cowboy equivalent Western River Expedition as the first big expansion before shifting gears.
You might have saw that the author of Roger Rabbit got the rights to his novels and characters back over the 35 year rule. Technically Disney does not own rights to Roger now and cannot make merch (with the brand names, they can use the designs I believe) or really anything new with them now.Why I am bringing up is that Car Toon Spin is on very thin ice. It very nearly almost got replaced during the Toontown revamp but died because of Covid cuts. It is almost 30 years old and past the point they consider replacing rides. They cannot do anything further with Roger they do not have now so it is not worth much to themI think it is on its last stand. I will not be surprised when we hear an announcement for it being replaced, maybe even d23 2026. By d23 2028 the latest. It is not long for the world
>>2838990They're a bit fucked with it. Any new ride there will come with a surge of popularity and the ride system as it is simply can't handle that with its capacity and there's minimal space to expand it.Maybe they could expand the building out to where the fountain is and use the extra space to have a track allowing 6 seats per vehicle (or even make it an omnimover), maybe add another floor. . The question would be what to theme it to. Donald Duck? Duck Tales? A Goofy movie (its modern popularity would sell a lot of merchandise)?
>>2839006The concept they were going to go with leaked out after the fact and it was in fact Ducktales, but very oddly some general Duck comic blend which does not really have Scrooge at all but rather focused on Donald. Probably would have announced it at D23 2021 had that occurred.A second scrapped idea was for Oswald the Lucky Rabbit.I would think if they make a replacement to keep with Toontown it has to be something like this from the Mickeyverse. The only real fit to Toontown while also not being these major attention-grabbers that will not be able to handle crowds it would draw long-term
>>2839046>very oddly some general Duck comic blend which does not really have Scrooge at all but rather focused on DonaldJust a random thought but the concept could work well at DLP considering how popular the Donald comics are in Europe
Iger directly says that Pirates "isn't brilliant storytelling"https://youtu.be/uwPaOpifZ-M?t=1412Explains a great many of the decisions made regarding the parks
>>2838802>>2838820SNW and Potter will probably get a big one around the same time.
>>2839101There are no characters constantly reminding you that there is a party you need to get to every 30 seconds, so it's pretty bad.
>>2839101>stock price is still below 2015What the fuck is wall street’s problem. Get this senile fraud out of there.
>>2839091That would involve making a completely new ride at the Castle park and that hasn't happened in decades
>>2839168>Last ride they added was Buzz Lightyear>April 8, 2006>Almost 20 years ago That's just sad
>>2839192There were very strong rumours of them expanding Discoveryland to have a mini-Star Wars land behind it and adding a Mandalorian + Grogu multi-launch coaster, was fairly expected to be shown at last years D23 but either it's been canned or they felt Frozen + Lion King for Adventure World was enough for now.Paris' visitor numbers actually dropped last year which is probably going to make them a little nervy. I feel if they had opened The Lion King alongside Frozen it would've made them a bit more confident but opening a huge expansion with only a single, non-unique, not especially great ride at the far back is very weird. The Lion King is getting fast tracked judging by how fast they ramped up building and the relatively disappointing theming, maybe that'll even get a 2027 opening.
>>2839091I have always said there not being a Duckburg/general comic land in the Europe parks shows how misunderstood they made the entire process and is indicative of that parks shortcomings
>>2839201They do have space where the Mickey Meet and greet currently is to build a Toontown area. Could easily fit a couple of compact dark rides there (or 1 big one). Disney just have a general reluctance to build new minor rides though, everything new has to be an E-ticket.
>>2839101So this is why cocktail party rides aren't made anymore. This dude thinks a ride needs to have an explicit A-B-C plot structure to tell a story rather than environmental clues and subtext. Oh no no no our billionaire CEOs are fucking retarded bros
>>2839123I think there's been a shakeup with their SNW plans with Zelda now being moved back to Islands. Only areas confirmed to be in active development are Lost Continent, Rip Ride Rockit, and now the Paris expansion pad. Given the timing, I would be willing to bet it's the long rumored broom stick VR thing coming to paris as that was supposed to be the headline attraction there before it poached ministry from Studios. Seems too early for it to be anything new that isnt a retrofit of something they already had in development
>>2839222Broomstick ride would make sense for a Wicked/Oz expansion. If they're really smart they'd also make it a medley sound track with you following Glinda around to a medley of the songs from the musical before you fly towards the Wizard and Elphaba shows up and you get chased by flying monkeys whilst she belts out defying gravity. Universal doesn't have a Flying Theatre and having an good answer to Flights of Passage would be a feather in their cap.Musical rides are always massively popular, even outside of "coaster set to rock music", not sure why parks don't take more advantage of this.There's still a chance that the coaster with a weird layout at Universal UK is a Wicked riding coaster but don't think that would fit the space (and if Epic Universe was to get another coaster at the moment it'd be a kiddie or tame family one)
>>2839254That coaster is basically confirmed as a Jurassic World coaster as there is no surrounding wicked area. I'm just reporting the facts with the VR broom ride. It was in development and supposed to go in the french ministry. It was rumored for studios for years so it's been in development for quite a while. I dont really give a fuck what it is, but I'd prefer it was not screens at all.
>Six Flags has lost $1 billion in the last 3 months>Sea World is getting gutted by private equity>Merlin has lost $1 billion in the last 3 years >Disney very profitable>Universal very profitable>no word of troubles from HerschendIs there something about owning a lot of B&M coasters that makes a chain poor, or is this just pure coincidence?
>>2839269I think it's more that america's demographics are changing and people are willing to pay $200 to not be around "young urban teens"
>>2839269>Six Flags has lost $1 billion in the last 3 monthsNo, they're just that much in the red over this time last year. I speculate it's debt from purchasing the Texas and Georgia parks outright but I'm not certain
>>2839270Why are only the chains without many B&Ms able to charge that much money? You can get an annual platinum pass to all Sea World parks for less than a day ticket to Epic. The annual Six Flags gold pass is less than a day ticket to Animal Kingdom.
>>2839275I dont think B&M has anything to do with it. Chains without B&Ms being Universal and Disney are in a totally different market and dont cater to the same audiences. Large scale heavily themed areas and technologically advanced dark rides cost more to make than parking lot coasters so the prices reflect that. You're trying to compare apples and oranges there. As for Herschend, probably just smart business management and also places like dollywood not attracting the Spics Flags demographic pushing paying families away
>>2839274That is a loss. $111 million profit in Q3 2024 vs $1.2 billion loss in Q3 2025.
>>2839276Disney and Universal have roller coasters, it’s just that only one of their North American coasters is a B&M. Do they suspect B&M coasters drive money away? Are they onto something Sea World and Six Flags haven’t picked up on yet?
>>2839278Are you trolling or retarded?
>>2839276Universal has a few B&Ms. Hulk, Decepticoaster, Flying Dinosaur, Dragon Khan, Shambhala, maybe others I can't recall offhand>>2839277>That is a lossI didn't say that it wasn't
>>2839279Neither.
>>2839280You said it wasn’t a 1 billy loss, which was wrong.
>>2839283Do you know what "in the red" means?
>>2839280They have 4: Decepticoaster, Hulk, Hollywood Dream, Flying Dinosaur. The threshold seems to be around 10: once you buy 10 B&Ms, your chain is doomed to financial failure or private equity rape. That’s what happened to Six Flags, Sea World and Merlin. 4 is likely safe, but Universal demolished Dragon Challenge just to be careful.
>>2839285Not really into your method, Socrates. Make your point or fuck off.
>>2839287You need to be 18 to post here.
>>2839278Could you imagine B&M making something like Everest or Hagrid’s or Cosmic Rewind? Because I can’t.
>>2839294>Could you imagine B&M making something like Everest or Hagrid’s or Cosmic Rewind?Yes because coaster manufacturers only designs the coaster portion itself. All the theming is done by the park or other companies.
>>2839295Yeah that’s the issue. B&M only has 10 models, most of which are very similar and none of which look anything like those rides.
>>2839296>B&M only has 10 models,That's a lot>none of which look anything like those rides.They can design a coaster to suit the needs of the client.
/rcg/ is having an autistic meltie again
>>2839297It’s really not, especially with how similar many of those models are. The floorless is just stand-up converted to have different seats. The stand-up itself is little more than a sitting coaster (like Kumba) with different seating. The wing is basically a sitting with the seats on the side of the track. The family coasters are just smaller versions of the inverts or sitting. The flying is just an invert with different seats. The surf coaster is a stand-up.So they really just have four different track models:>hyper>sitting>invert>dive (which turns into a sitting after the first drop)That’s extremely low for a designer with that big a catalog. Compare them to Vekoma or Intamin or Mack. >They can design a coaster to suit the needs of the client.Can they? They almost always stay within their comfort zone, delivering very basic designs with very basic elements like vertical loops, immelmans, zero g rolls, cobra rolls and barrel rolls. But I’m pretty sure they would have short circuited if Universal had approached them with the idea for Hagrid’s.
>>2839327There's nothing very similar about those models unless you view them as seats on a chassis with wheels, in which case yeah they are similar and so are every other manufacturer's offerings. They're all seats on a wheeled chassis. Ten different models is a highly diversified lineup for a single manufacturer, although offhand I'd say Vekoma and Intamin probably offer more.>Can they?Yeah, as long as it's within the manufacturer's scope. Obviously if a park wants a wild mouse they're not going to get a satisfactory offering from B&M, but every manufacturer has strengths and weaknesses in their product lineups.
>>2839327you could lock every b&m engineer in a room for 10 years and they wouldn’t come up with something as good as hagrid’s
>>2839340>There's nothing very similar about those modelsOther than the seats there are almost no differences. Here are all the elements on Kumba (1994), a sitting model:>vertical loop, dive loop, zero g roll, cobra roll, interlocking corkscrewNow here are all the elements on Scream (2003), a stand-up:>vertical loop, dive loop, zero g roll, cobra roll, interlocking corkscrewHere's Hot Wheels Nitro (2013), a floorless model:>vertical loop, dive loop, zero g roll, interlocking corkscrewThree different models, three different decades, same elements. B&M is really only competent at a few things, and their "different models" are just different seats on the same track. It's like changing the color on a bag of potato chips and saying it's a new product. Legally it is, but practically it's the same thing.>"offhand I'd say Vekoma and Intamin probably offer more."There's no probably about it. Vekoma and Intamin are always mixing it up. That's why innovative companies like Disney and Universal keep hiring them. Creativity loves creativity, and safety loves safety. That may be why Six Flags and B&M do business together so often.>Yeah, as long as it's within the manufacturer's scope.Circular answer. All you said was that B&M can design a coaster to suit the needs of the client, as long as the client doesn't need anything B&M can't do. And B&M can't do much compared to other companies.
>>2839351>Other than the seats there are almost no differences.Yes there are. These different ride models will fill a specific role in a park. Scream, Hot Wheels, and Kumba are all different models that offer different experiences to guests and provide each park with a unique ride that fits their long-term goals. From a myopic enthusiast's point of view (irrelevant) they're similar, from a park executive's point of view they are very different. From the viewpoint of an average guest they are quite different, too.>and their "different models" are just different seats on the same trackToo reductionist>Vekoma and Intamin are always mixing it up. That's why innovative companies like Disney and Universal keep hiring them. Creativity loves creativity, and safety loves safety. That may be why Six Flags and B&M do business together so often.Six Flags has purchased Intamin and Vekoma rides, Universal has purchased B&M rides.>Circular answer It's not though.>And B&M can't do much compared to other companies.They have ten different models according to you. That's a diverse portfolio by any metric.
Six Flags Qiddiya reportedly soft opened
Some very minor foundation work happening for the mindbender replacement at WEM (supposedly a vekoma).They started moving dirt 6 months ago so they didn’t have the engineering and design sorted prior to tearing down the mindbender.Piles and pile caps are not that heavy duty so I can’t imagine it’s a very forceful coaster, but it looks like they will be using most of the mindbenders old footprint.
Herschend to Acquire Silverwood Theme Park in Idahohttps://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20251112641518/en/Herschend-to-Acquire-Silverwood-the-Pacific-Northwests-Largest-Theme-and-Water-Park
>>2839580Stupid but honest question, is it even going to be open in the afternoon?
>>2835600Has anyone ever done the Disney cruises? Are they good ? Are they good for families with teens? https://youtu.be/3KGQ653JHZ8?si=950MiIQCKiGyWOKhThis slide looks fun
>>2839101It really is not for Iger. They need to put a Christian back in. Jewish CEOs do not run the park well. It went downhill with Eisner.
>>2839046Terrible
>>2838818I'm glad they didn't. And its not a scandal. Liberals attacked them because they hate fun, wholesome places for families. https://youtu.be/slnKjx8rDsw?si=CmhlIShYyw4sVqFV
>>2838619>emptyYou say that like its bad. They're rich enough to have employees run a non crowded park.
>>2838609I stopped liking him after he had a transfreak on his show
>>2838419Is it really the besr park or is it because we are on a weeb website?
>>2838419If they have screens on Peter Pan I won't be riding that one.
>>2838419I heard the theme park food is mid but extremely cheap. I saw a video of it at night. I'm most impressed by the night atmosphere and how sparkling clean it was. Thats how Walt intended it to be. https://youtu.be/Qv7ZHoU3TFA?si=CzNT9HDR1G7klWpK
>>2838353Ok Elliot Rogers
>>2839998>Thats how Walt intended it to be.cringe
>>2838094This.
>>2838264I think its funny when peoplecsay this about California Asia and European parks... Nothing compares to Orlando which was touched by Walt himself and has grown over the decades. Orlando is magical.
>>2838044https://youtu.be/Qv7ZHoU3TFA?si=CzNT9HDR1G7klWpKGreen Tyranny
>>2840003>was touched by Walt himself >Orlando is magical.double cringe
>>2839201France is snobby and that stopped progress. China is China (everything even with best efforts looks half assed). Japan was thrilled at the opportunity and have thrived as a result.
>>2838990I'm hoping they keep it because I've never tried it
>>2838040This makes me so happy. I'm not a coaster person but I love walking around and seeing the beautiful animals.
>>2838020It looks beautiful. Do they have a crowd calendar? I frikkin hate crowds
>>2837921There is class and there is money. You have neither. I can't stand arrogance from people who have reason. It is an outright stench from people who have none but still carry the haughtiness.
>>2837760This. Especially when it scares out half the crowd.
>>2839998>>2840004>http://youtu.be/Qv7ZHoU3TFA?si=CzNT9HDR1G7kWpKbot
>>2835600Kentucky Kingdom Christmas & then a visit to Creation Museum & Ark Encounter sounds like my dream vacation.
>>2840015Botphobic bigothttps://youtu.be/Aea0Z-d_Szg?si=yfjqWAbWbJoSup3v
>>2836749I didn't even know about this spot
Hagrid's is totally fucked. If I couldn't rope drop it I don't think I'd ever do it again. I tried to get in line last night for it with "just" a 2 hour queue and it was moving way slower than usual with the express line backed out by the entrance. Crazy thing is the rest of the park was a ghost town and every other ride was 5 minutes. I said fuck it after 10 minutes of standing in place and went to loop spiderman. >tfw no more kino night rides unless I play comcast's jewish schemes
>>2840072my rule of thumb is if I have to book a hotel to visit a theme park, i'm buying the line skip goy pass
Any reason whatsoever for 3 adults to visit Legoland in Florida? Taking my mom to check out the Bok Tower Gardens and hotel will be right across the street from Legoland. I know the famous Cypress Gardens are part of that park now and that would be another cool garden to check out but not for like 90 usd each. And I know little of Legoland itself but it definitely seems for the 10 and under crowd.Anything else good in that area I need to check out? Only gonna be there for a weekend.
>>2839996That would be very stupid because looking at DisneySea there's literally nothing Japanesey about it other than the fact it's in Japan. If anything weebs would say USJ is the best because it does anime and vidya stuff. It's the best because they pumped infinite money into it so the rides and theming are second to none.>>2839997Too bad, you're missing out. I never expected it to be as good as it is.>>2839998Didn't snack that much, but from what I ate the burgers at the Snuggly Duckling are pretty bad, the curry popcorn is fantastic, the crème brulée churro is very tasty too, and the gyoza dog is the fucking best I want one right now.>>2840010Tough luck buddy, these parks get absolutely slammed. I was supposed to be there at a calm time and it was intense to say the least. There was a Duffy thing happening tho so maybe you'll have better luck.
>>2840020That's part of what made it great.>Secluded>Great view of the Haunted Mansion and Liberty Square.>Get to wave at the river boat.>Even has a view of the parade route.>>2840137If it wasn't a 14 hour plane ride away, I'd just take my kid to TDR rather than WDW. Cleaner, cheaper, more polite guests, better maintained, better theming, untainted classics, etc.
>>2840116Yeah well I live down the road so USO is my home park and I used to be able to do Hagrid's twice. Once in the morning and once in the evening and express has made that impossible so fuck express and everyone who buys it
>>2840232Not exactly a hidden spot but one that was under-rated was the Fountain View cafe. Close-ish to the entrance so great for people watching, did some amazing cakes and you got a comfy view of the fountain.Even when it briefly because a Starbucks there were still tables in the shade outside where you could chill and watch the fountains. All gone now though.
>>2839996it's the best park if you value a theme park having a cohesive identity. it's not that it has the best ride lineup but they take the time to integrate everything into the main theme.it's like the opposite of califonia adventure. it's the opposite of what they are doing at EPCOT, hollywood studios and animal kingdom. they are all just becoming Disney Adventure Worlds with no regard to each park's central identity. fantasy springs is admittedly a chink in the armor. nice land, but it's an IP dump and it looks like tokyo disneyland may be getting an IP dump soon too. but the core park is still a intricately designed and cohesive beast, and it's worth visiting at least once
Back from Japan, but before depression kicks in again here's my thoughts on USJ now I was able to get a full day there at the end of the trip>Super Nintendo World is gorgeous and full of life, but horribly designed logistically. Thin pathways and stairs cause chokepoints, especially in the morning when people rush there to get in without an entry pass and rope-drop Mine Cart Madness. It's a hellscape after opening, avoid it at all costs and go in the afternoon, there's way less people then.>Mario Kart is pretty fun, but after doing it once I'm not sure I feel like I need to do it again. It's alright, but I wouldn't wait two hours for it like you usually have to.>Mine Kart Madness is sadly very short for a VERY long wait, but it's so fucking fun. I was hopeful it would do the concept of jumping rickety tracks justice and they fucking nailed it.>Wasn't able to get into Kinopio Cafe sadly, but the DK hot dog was surprisingly delicious>Jaws is fucking great. Sad they don't really make rides like this anymore with actor/skipper interactions.>Waterworld is also fantastic. Great stunts, tons of pyrotechnics and explosions and all the actors brought their A-game. Sitting in the splash zone was a fun experience as the hosts had a lot of fun spraying us in the preshow. >Hollywood Dream is a great headliner as it gives you a wonderful view of the park. This one is especially great at night.>Jurassic Park The Ride looked spotless and all the animatronics and effects were working perfectly. That T-Rex is still one of the most impressive ones to this day.>Staff is the most friendly I've ever seen. Had multiple shop clerks start a conversation, asking if it's my first time and if I was having fun etc. Especially in Super Nintendo World they really try to hype you up.>>2840336Conceptually I was also really against Fantasy Springs, but seeing it in person they really did the best job they could have. It doesn't feel nearly as hamfisted as I would've thought.
>no longer considered autistic enough to get DAS despite having generalized anxiety in lines>literally get sick around people>told my family can wait and line and I can chill outside >all because they want us buying Disney genieLol lmao, my family is probably gonna not renew our shit cuz they took away the accommodations
I went to Dollywood on Wednesday, and Lightning Rod is really cool, but I think Thunderhead is the best ride in the park.
>>2840565Good bait
>>2840568The CCI/GCI twister type coasters I've been on kind of feel the same to me. They're good though, I wouldn't ever pass one up
>>2840572Nah I'm literally in animal kingdom rn. Apparently they canceled my DAS because they want the guidelines to be more stringent and force people to buy genie
>>2840565If you get anxiety from standing in line you legitimately deserve to be culled from the population
>>2840589Thank you retardicus maximumus, if youre too stupid to understand this it isn't I can't stand in the line. Its that standing in a line filled with retarded tourists babbling, mewling children and babies and what not being fucking annoying stresses me out. Its not that I can't handle it it's that if you have the option to avoid unnecessary stress at an already overcrowded shithole wouldnt you take it?
>>2840593Just buy noise canceling earbuds if its that big of a deal
>>2840600I've done HHN I can cope just by fucking around on the phone and trying to block it out, the point was more i had the option to just use the old fast pass system while still waiting on a ride but some retard wasted an hour of my time telling on my weekened how they couldn't help me by doing the thing they've done for me for a decade and a half ever since I was like ten years pld because some penny pincher figured it would make me more likely to buy lightning lane or whatever. At that point I'd rather just go to Busch Gardens or SeaWorld or Universal cuz they'll take my actual fucking medical papers rather than doing shit like this to me and my family
Intamin announcing a new ride system with ETF tomorrow. Got to assume it's going to be a darkride coaster hybrid. Almost all Intamin concepts end up with a ride (the tower one being the only one I can think of that hasn't) so it may even get a ride announcement too.Would fit in with Project Horizon at Alton Towers and Merlin use Intamin a lot so fingers crossed...
>>2839269QRD on Sea World and private equity? I only pop in on theme park news occasionally - is it long term fucked? BGT is my local park. Was just there yesterday actually, rope-dropped Iron Gwazi and it's still amazing. The pretzel dogs now have shitty not really pretzel batter on them now though, so I should have guessed something was up.
>>2840817In 2008 InBev purchased Anheuser-Busch. AB had a ton of debt to pay off so InBev began selling off "non-core assets" and this resulted in Busch Entertainment Corporation being sold off to Blackstone for between 2.5-3 billion which immediately took the company public and shifted focus from animals to coasters with the release of blackfish. Blackstone has since sold it again to a chinese investment firm and exited their stake. Blackrock and Vanguard now both own huge stakes in it (very evil giga-jews). This is why BGT now feels soulless. It used to be a passion project from a family owned beer company, and now it's just a line on a spreadsheet.
Came back from a Universal & Epcot trip on Friday. It was cold as shit on monday and tuesday but besides that, weather was perfect. My personal ranking: Islands>Epic>USF>Epcot. Velocicoaster, Hagrids, Mummy and Monsters Unchained were easily my favorites. I managed to get 2 rides on all of them, 3 on Monsters since the ride was empty and they let us stay on. I really enjoyed Epic but what the fuck were they thinking making Nintendo World so cramped. The layout as you enter is so retarded and the Donkey Kong area is even worse. >Guardians Cosmic RewindMaybe because I hyped myself a little too much but I found this ride kinda....underwhelming. Queue sucks, the pre-show is okay. I hated the amount of screens that it had, it looked kinda cheap to me. And while the ride itself with the music was fun, got Tears for Fears, there was nothing that really stood out to me. It's basically Space Mountain but the seats move. Oh well.Best ride imo was Journey into Imagination followed by Spaceship Earth, didn't know much about Journey but I came out of it really enjoying it. Very fun dark ride with some cool effects.
>>2840593>>2840603Yeah you should be culled from the population. Thankfully you'll never reproduce.
>>2840565I'm sorry to hear about your anxiety. Are you on any medication?
>>2840746https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liGWVLc0lEgIt's basically all of Disney's Dark ride tech put together in a single ride. Looks pretty awesome if they can make it reliable.
>>2841199Wow this is sick. It's almost perfect for my dream ride of a BTTF dark ride that goes back to Universal Studios in 1990 and has elements of all the legacy rides in one dark ride. You could justify it by saying Doc Brown forgot some McGuffin at the institute of future technology when he sold it to "a clown" but the machine keeps glitching out so you end up in the Jaws boathouse, Kong bridge attack, or the Earthquake subway station scenes. Seems like it would need a massive showbuilding to have a 20mph straightaway tho.
>no aps for eu because we fucked up capacity lmao our badFUCKING COMCAST KIKES DUDE WHAT IF WE DIDNT BUILD THE SECOND HARRY POTTER RIDE UNTIL AFTER THE PARK ALREADY OPENEDLOL 900 PPH IS ENOUGH FOR A FAMILY COASTER BASED ON THE MOST RECOGNIZABLE VIDEO GAME CHARACTER OF ALL TIME NOBODY LIKES THAT FAGGOT MONKEY ANYWAYWHY YES I AM MAD HOW COULD YOU TELL
>>2841247Did they announce Epic is not getting passes for a while or something?
>>2841247i like the idea of walking through a theme park and wondering how many of the other guests hate jews and say the n word online
>>2841274there have been hintshttps://x.com/AliciaStella/status/1990448732819853696
>>2841279I feel like this was obvious. Epic would be a fire code violation if they allowed APs access. Lowkey, I dont think another HP ride or even full new portal expansion will alleviate this problem cause they're just gonna increase the amount of guests in the park until they hit the 40k they designed the park for. Not having 40k guests in the park is the type of thing that will piss shareholders off even though I'm sure they're making a killing on express passes since they're basically essential and normal admission is like a second rate experience. My worry is this pressure to "fix" the parks capacity will result in some bum ass rides on the tier of COTWW just to get them out quickly. If the HP ride ends up being VR slop that's gonna suck, but that's exactly what universal would do
>>2841284I read an article claiming that the theoretical capacity is much higher, and it's only low right now because operations still needs to learn how shit works.https://tommythemed.substack.com/p/epic-universe-is-struggling-withNo idea how true it is though. Also lol at the highest capacity land being the least popular one
>>2841289I think that's incorrect and there's just a fundamental design flaw in how the park was intended to be navigated. In normal hob and spoke parks, every land flows into each other in a big circle and that paces everyone and helps mitigate crowding even with large numbers of guests. With epic, every land is a dead end you walk into with the only exit being the way you entered it. So, while at the other parks, you'd always have guests in the walkways either traveling, shopping, getting their face painted, etc, epic just dumps you in the land with no way out so it's immediately clogged with the rides being the only release valve on crowds. It's the same problem that Diagon Alley has, but replicated 4 times with mario being the most extreme example. Actually it's worse than DA because at least at studios the rest of the park has the circular progression pulling foot traffic from it. The solution to it is making Celestial really fucking good so people want to stay in it, but Universal decided to make Celestial have two very niche attractions with a merry go round for literal babies and the big boy coaster. Families wont spend much time there. Restaurants do nothing to help because realistically you want to spend an hour there then get back to the actual theme park you paid for and all guests tend to want to eat at around the same times. They're kinda fucked tho with celestial being landlocked in the middle and surrounded with shit. They cant really expand it without knocking something down.
>>2841321>With epic, every land is a dead endThat's a hub and spoke design
>>2841323Ok I used the wrong term then. I mean like AK or IOA where it's a big circle where A-B-C are all connected.
>>2841284It needs some people sinks and it needs enough rides that someone could decide "nah, won't do that today" without feeling they've missed out.I don't know how they can fix Nintendo World. Mario Kart is a medium capacity but has had massive queues at every park that has it, Donkey Kong's capacity is just unacceptable, they should have made the cars 6 seaters. Unless there's a spectacular new ride built there that eclipses those, I don't think the queues will ever get low there.I'll guess we'll start getting leaks in a few months if the expansion is a new HP ride or if it's Wicked/LOTR.
>>2835600https://youtu.be/F9_Q_5_TghQ?si=oAy-yuFTV6YAFdZS
>>2835600Let's say I want to visit DisneySea when crowds will be the lowest but employees will have everything up. Is there even a day for this? In WDW, its Sept 11.
>>2841381Maybe they can retrofit DK with different vehicles that add a 3rd seat to each row to bump capacity up to 1400ph. Depends on how much of a weight tolerance ceiling they left themselves. In regards to the expansion, it's pretty much confirmed as a new HP ride due to the dimensions of the HP expansion plot matching the land size in the permit. If it was Wicked or LOTR it would have been much larger. I think we're gonna start seeing a much larger and faster build-out at all the parks now that epic is done and that creative team has been working on other things for the past 3 years.
>>2841416Should be a good couple of years for Universal announcements.Current thinking is that Universal UK will get official confirmation a few days after the budget, probably to add a bit of pressure to the government. Then we should start getting some more juicy tidbits and leaks. Will be interesting to see if that mystery land ends up being Shrek, LOTR, or another Harry Potter. Rumours both say that Universal paid a lot for both LOTR rights and for (UK) Harry Potter rights. They have been quite open about trying to avoid eating into Florida though so I just can't see another Forbidden Journey.
>>2841398please kill yourself link spamming faggot
So nothing interesting from IAAPA?
>>2841723Intamins cool dark ride system above, some orlando funfairs getting cool rides, F&F coaster ride cars. Thats about it
>>2841723Nate Bargatze is allegedly building a 100 acre "theme" park in Nashville
>>2841744Nateland is a dumb name but it's pretty cool to have that dream and make it happen.
>>2841755There's been like 20 different pitches for a theme park in the Nashville area ever since Opryland closed and all of them them were just vaporware. Nate seems to be legitimately committed but I'll believe it when I see it. If it does happen I bet it'd be a smaller version of Holiday World but with Nate theming.
they got the dragon drone working at epic, looks like it's used to let people know the stage show is about to start
>>2841784only looked cool in the pre-opening candid video and never since
>>2841723Shimtec showed off a model of Ministry's ride vehicle (with a different shell but unmistakable resemblance)
>>2841784
>>2841829Cool. Hope universal does something else with it that isn't so screens heavy. They usually use each ride system at least twice.
>>2841714Links inform people in more detail without taking up space. Additionally, I did not spam. When will you give up your war and do something better with your life?
Link spammers deserve to be publicly executed
>>2842050Not him but everyone here wants you to fuck off. You add nothing.
>>2842050fuck off shillbot
>>2842055>>2842057You are him.
Wrong again retard. Now fuck off.
Wicked 2 is overperforming which means we're getting that green bitch as an animatronic and there's nothing we can do about it Thanks for nothing, gay people.
>>2842272And dumb women. I will never understand why that slop is so popular and it'll get a half assed attraction at Epic despite everything about it being gay and retarded.
>>2842276Theme parks never strike while the iron is hot.They'll toss the idea around, come up with an awesome idea for an attraction, shelve it, reconsider it a year or more later, make preliminary plans, cut those plans back because of budget constraints, and then finally open a ride based on a formerly-hot IP 8-10 years later, long after it could have really captured the public's interest.
>>2842279Wasnt the Jurassic Park ride designed simultaneous with the production of the movie? It's mentioned in the film iirc. Only example I can think of where the ride was in development simultaneous with the movie, but even then it came out in Hollywood 3 years later with the islands version 6 years later. >>2842276Hopefully it doesn't go in Epic. If anything other than LOTR takes the expansion pad next to Stardust I will kill myself. It has to go somewhere tho and it's gonna take out a beloved attraction in the process. Doesnt really fit at Studios unless they go with the "behind the movie magic" approach the park was supposed to be themed to.
I think Defying Gravity is a good song.
>>2842276It hits most of the same notes as Frozen does but without the incest vibe.>>2842287LOTR is going somewhere, either the UK or Epic Universe. They apparently paid a lot for the rights.
Hey guys, Andrew Platt here.I'm planning my next video, talking about why Disney & Universal are thriving, while most six flags and other regional parks around the US are dying.I have a lot of my own theories, but would be interested in hearing input from others
>>2842489The root of it goes back to the sale of the chain from Time Warner to Premier. Before that SF parks were pretty nice.
>>2842497So what about six flags parks have gotten worse over time? I can see pretty clearly that the parks are nowhere near as pretty or impressive as Universal parks, but I imagine its always been that way.
>>2842485Hopefully both. LOTR is one of those things that will still be relevant 500 years from now like the odyssey. >>2842489How un-woke would you like me to be? I feel like an aspect of it you cant mention in your video is the clientele that Uni and Dis cater to and the clientele that SF and others cater to. People are willing to pay money to be surrounded by a tamer demographic, if you get my drift. The ticket price is kind of a moat. As far as what you can mention in your videos, the fact that Uni and Dis are media conglomerates and people see recognizable IP and associate it automatically with quality. Same reason why at HHN, the IP houses always have longer lines even though the OC houses are more imaginative and higher quality. People like what they already know. That's the way the movie industry has been for a while with every blockbuster being either a remake or part of a decades old franchise. Theme parks are in that ecosystem of entertainment. Also this >>2842497Same goes for SeaWorld being sold off to the corporate suits. Spreadsheet capitalism without a heart or soul eventually shines through. When every nice part of the park was made in the 90s, the park has a problem. Uni and Disney fans verbally critique the shit out of both companies almost constantly so they haven't been able to "maximize shareholder value" in the same way. There's probably a myriad of other reasons like people migrating from certain states into others, political and economic shifts, and such, but as far as how the fans decide which park to visit, what keeps uni and disney fans going is quality, brand domination, and tradition maybe.
>>2842276>I will never understand why that slop is so popularit's female capeshit, they were primed with barbie
>>2842509I could mention that every year, we see videos pop up of fights breaking out in six flags parks, but that happens at disney now too lol
>>2842511It's extremely rare for it to happen at Disney. It's like every month at six flags.
>>2842508Until about 1990 Universal was only in California and could barely be considered a theme park. Six Flags parks offered an experience competitive with Disney until about the late 70s. From then until the sale to Premier, they were still clean, safe, well-run, well-rounded parks. SF parks would win landscaping and beautification awards until the mid 90s as unbelievable as that sounds. After Premier bought the parks from Time Warner, they immediately started cutting the company to the bone in favor of installing new thrill rides and an aggressive expansion campaign–remember Six Flags Belgium and Worlds of Adventure? This approach hurt every departmental budget, staffing levels, and institutional know-how. The reckless expansion and the belief that thrill rides alone would drive revenues put them in the hole they're in today.
>>2842489Disney and Universal have rides GPs live and Six Flags has very few of these.
>>2835600Care Bear dark ride. I'm not sure if there is enough interest in Care Bears. I mean I like it but my kids don't know about Care Vears. The ride looks adorable though. https://youtu.be/9s9bjxbEhqg?si=1d0hkcp-dPdcYgtW
>>2842511It doesn't happen at Disney. Guests are white
>>2842509We don't like woke. I wish you'd leave.
>>2842055>>2842057You seriously created three new VPNs to post that. Get a life. "Everyone" is not a fat faggot liberal like you who has nothing better to do but try to ruin a nice happy place.
>>2842700>posts something not woke>thinks I'm wokeYou are the worst poster here by a fucking mile. I can always tell it's you by your low-iq takes, link spam, bitching about liberals, or nonsensical interpretations of other people's posts. No one likes you. You drag the general down. We all wish you'd fuck off. I hope a coaster car you're in derails and slams into a brick wall at 65mph.Go spend time with your alleged wife and kids and read the bible or whatever it is you faggots do for entertainment.
>>2842714Fat faggot liberal, your pathetic life gets a blip of dopamine when you interact with me. If I can bring you some joy in your dungeon of a life, so be it.And TLDR
>>2842714Not him, but seriously you should just move on. Who spends an hour writing paragraphs on a site when he's not going to listen to you? Just scroll past it.
>>2842722Fair enough, but I do resent the accusation it would take me an hour to write 2 sentences. Took 10 seconds.
>>2842725I don't believe that since you're more dumb than a retarded one eyed 58 year old prostitute.
>>2842489Parks aren't willing to spend as much on big new coasters as they were pre-recession. If you look at any SF park a good portion of their collection is at least 20 years old. The rest are mostly cheap additions like RMC conversions or compact clones (freespins, Sky Rocket IIs, raptors, etc)Birth rates also started shrinking after 2007, so regional parks' main demographic (teens) are actively shrinking rather than growing.
>>2842796Dont talk about your wife like that
>>2835600Anyone going on Thanksgiving? Everyone else with be tucked in with their pathetic happy family eating pumpkin pie that day
>>2842992parks are jam packed for this whole week... not worth going anywhere near them
>>2843009RIP to the retarded fuckers that chose this week to go to Epic
>>2842720>>2842714Can you guys please not do this in front of andrew platt?
>>2843026i'm going presidents day weekend. im thinking i'm pretty fuckedim gonna cope by saying i already experienced everything at least once and i'm just going to admire the scenery lol
I am enjoying the new defunctland video. very comfy.
it snowed at disneyland paris
>>2843471Im going there this weekend...Also, disney seem to have leaked avatar land as the next adventureworld expansion
>>2835600Christmas Town is included in your ticket https://youtu.be/vOBg0EJrpX0?si=HjSbt1Z926bRPGAG
>>2843126He is doing it first.
>>2843009>>2843026I didn't say "week". I said "Thanksgiving Day".
>>2843471Do French people even know what smiling or customer service is?
>>2843513Euro Disney almost failed because the French are barely human and hate everything fun (American)
>>2843471Speaking of, that walkaround Olaf animatronic they announced for the Frozen land looks pretty cool. Just hope it survives long enough to get some time in the park before the inevitable budget cuts get rid of him forever. I'll take any scraps Paris managed to scrounge up at this point.
You did get your free BGT ticket from the Buccaneers promotion right?
>>2843727>BGTYou mean Six Flags America with a zoo?
>>2843753Yes I mean six flags america with a zoo that was once a passion project for a family owned beer company.
>>2843513It was genuinely a scandal in france that Disney wanted their staff to be friendly and smile at guests
>>2843759So much passion they got bored with it and sold it to a private equity firm for money.
>>2843767What’s their fucking problem? Is it bad dental care?
>>2843774There's a weird attitude reversal in France.Everywhere else:>You're giving me money, I'm gratefulFrance>I'm providing you goods and services, be grateful
>>2843773No dumbshit the heirs sold the entire beer empire to InBev or whoever, the parks were just a small fraction of that and the new corporate ownership sold off spurious assets like the theme parks to start paying off debt.
>>2843781That sounds very passionate indeed. I mean I thought passion project would describe some place like Knoebels, whose heirs have kept the land in the family for nearly 200 years and who personally work on the park themselves, but I suppose it could apply to a family selling out as well.
Budget didn't have any measures that'll fuck over theme parks too much (aside from the minimum wage increase). Will probably get the Universal UK confirmation within a week. Possible they'll confirm the lands too
>>2843783Gussie Busch oversaw the development of the theme parks and he died in '89. The Busch heirs that cashed out weren't the ones that built the business or the parks. Try a little harder next time.
>>2843797Gussie should have tried a little harder to convince his kids not to let private equity rape his creation. Should’ve taken notes from competent owners like the Kochs or Knoebels.
>>2843831Private sales are voluntary here in America. Not sure about your shithole. The Busch family became billions and billions of dollars richer than before–more money than they would have made by holding on to it. Likewise, if you walked up to the Kochs or Knoebels with $100 million, they'd part ways with their parks too, although you'd be overpaying.
>>2843833Yeah that’s what “let” means. They “volunteered”, as you put it, to let private equity run train on his creation. I’m sure they made money by selling out. That’s what the word means. So much for “passion”.
>>2843839>That’s what the word means. So much for “passion”.My exact wording was "that was once a passion project" you fucking goober.
>>2843839>So much for “passion”.Yeah when something isn't your own creation you may not be passionate about it. That's how "passion" works. Then someone waves way more money in your face than you'll ever see out of it: Sold. Knoebels and Holiday World just aren't worth very much in the long run, so no one's beating down a path to buy either family out. They're glorified funfairs.
>>2843842>>2843844Yeah that’s what people tend to do with their passion projects: set them up to get raped after they die. Bankrupt parks with no future were getting sold for millions decades ago so claiming Knoebels and Holiday World aren’t worth much just shows an ignorance of the industry. But it’s more likely you’re just pretending every park is as inherently soulless as BGT.
>>2843966You sound scornedDid a ride op there turn you down
>>2843966Blackpool Pleasure Beach is still a passion project and family owned, once of the most distinctive parks in the world.Problem is, Blackpool has a huge off season (even with the illuminations extending it) because it gets to cold and miserable and it gets 0 international tourists as it's hours from any major airport. It's permanently struggling for money
Six Flags Great Adventure supports for extreme spinner are on siteWill have a black/grey support color scheme
>>2842489On the surface level to me it just seems like "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer"SF is a victim of its reputation and budget. Disney has a good reputation and Universal has infinite budget (even if they don't want to use it). Dollywood is doing good last I heard.
>>2842489Because people are realizing that dark rides and good food are cool.
>>2844458Honestly, food is an interesting factor. At Disney and Universal, you're going to get up-charged, but as long as you're not a retard who goes to the hotdog stand, you can at least get something that tastes good. Hell, some spots are honestly pretty fairly priced. Then you go to a local park and they charge you out the ass for a shitty burger or old, dry chicken. It fucking sucks.
>>2844499No food at a theme park is "fairly priced" nor as good as something you can find in a normal restaurant. You're just a consoomer justifying your consumption
