Are the days of cheap travel permanently over?
The days of cheap anything are over, everything is 50% more expensive since the wu flu.
>>2836281Not if you go to Appalachia!
>>2836292You're on 4chan. This is a white supremacist site. They can't comprehend a world where Russia and China are dominant powers.
>>2836292Lmao, russia didn't invade jewkraine until 2022, by then inflation around the world was already spiking.>>2836295I mean china got away with releasing a bioweapon on the whole world.
>>2836281even if fares have gone up a bit recently travel is still almost as cheap as it has ever beenprevious generations had to save up for ages to go on holidaynow i can go from one side of europe to the other for a few hours' pay, if that, and i can go to cities across the continent for short trips multiple times a year
>>2836281500 USD is a good median marker for one-way tickets to the other side of the world. I paid 410 USD for my 19 hr itinerary from Raleigh to Mumbai. If I booked in early November, I could've paid $347. That's for a 13,500 km trip with a single 2 hour layover (no terminal or carrier change) and complimentary checked bag. 2.6 cents per kilometer and total fare under $500 qualifies as cheap travel in my book. My first overseas itinerary through the Philippines with Philippine Airlines cost $928 and covered 14000 km. This is not cheap travel, especially since I additionally spent $500 and four days traveling 1700 miles overland by train from my work location to the departure airport, LAX.
>>2836325I hate missing out on the random ridiculously cheap flights that pop up. I almost secured a 500 dollar flight from the US to New Zealand for a trip I'm doing in February but I stupidly decided to wait, only for it to fucking jump up to over 1000 dollars. Should have locked it in when I had the chance.
>>2836317Transport as a percentage of travel cost may have gone down, but accomodation as a percentage of travel cost has gone up tremendously. I averaged 61% of travel cost going toward accomodation in formerly cheap Lithuania, and this for the cheapest, most cramped private rooms.
Go be poor somewhere else.Stay in America and get a white wife.
>>2836287>America>cheap, ever
>>2836281roadtrips in europe are still remarkably cheap, esp eastern europe.
>>2836356Also America is plenty cheap if you avoid major cities for hotels, or car camp. Literally millions of acres of public land all over.
>>2836364And what is worthwhile in these places? What is the great experience or benefit of traveling cheap in American outskirts?
>>2836295>This is a white supremacist site.Rather odd considering the site is owned by an Asian and has jewish advertising.
>>2836364domestic flights are through the roof expensive. it's insane
>>2836367Having space to be alone and do your own thing away from other people, and not having to pay for it (the space, that is). You could also try Kazakhstan if you want that open space feeling. >>2836369I paid $108 for a 1500 mile domestic flight with Southwest, carry-on only. Departure date is less than three weeks away.
>>2836367Also, Americans assume that everyone has a car big enough to sleep in comfortably. I started with a half-width twin memory foam mattress pad (cut lengthwise and stacked). Then graduated to a twin mattress from a mattress store in Xalapa, Mexico that I took delivery of ten minutes before closing time after hurrying half an hour back to my van, which was parked near my hostel on the street. There are innumerable ways for costs to run up into the stratosphere in America, but if you manage to avoid ALL of them at once, you can live for less than $1000 per month, and live pretty well at that. I'm talking about living in the healthiest parts of the country.
>>2836363Cheap compared to what? Roadtripping Malaysia? Definitely not. Malaysia's gas prices are a third of Europe's.
>>2836384that's not the norm
>>2836281No, I’m always shocked looking at prices from any major US west coast airport to Asia. Not expensive. Contrary to popular belief there is a ceiling with prices Mexico, Thailand and US cities of which Vegas comes to mind are realizing this. Some massively inflationary countries like Argentina and Turkey were historical bargains until that inflation eventually caught up with tourists. Egypt and Brazil are deflationary travel cost wise.
I hope so. Less poorfag plebs traveling.
>>2836292>russia goodboi russia dindu nuffinWhy are you not on the frontlines dying for Putin's sixth superyacht?
>>2836419>calls others plebs when he's still a 4chan scumbag
>>2836281wow, great screenshot that shows nothing
>>2836384>Having space to be alone and do your own thing away from other peopleYeah away from people because they're so rotten in America.
>>2836292By full retard you mean, not immediately giving massive military aid to Ukraine and nuking moscow?
>>2836295>russia>dominant powerLolwut. You are a weak insignificant insect. You are nothing but a cheap gas station vassal state of china. Even your tiny Baltic neighbors have more power than you.
>>2836433I'm not a slav, but Moscow easily mogs Londonistan and Parislamabad.
>>2836281If travel gets so expensive that less people do it, won't the free market bring prices down?
>>2836281No, there may be a recession coming. Higher unemployment -> lower demand and cheaper labor -> lower prices.
>>2836387>Malaysia's gas prices are a third of Europe'sI just got gas for like $2.95 gallon, and it's $2.35 on average thereyou guys are getting fucked raw
>>2836281Someone will find a way to say>Once we get the orange fool out of the white house, beer goes down to $3/bottle and 5-star hotels will have sub-$100/night roomsAll while also arguing we need to implement carbon excise taxes at every transaction, pay sweatshop kids in Bangladesh $1.25 to make a $50 t-shirt, and import 3 Guatemalans who can't speak or read English to mow all the lawns in their neighborhood because they'll do 2 days work for $50.
>>2836468Despite all the doomposting by losers, millions of people are currently realizing their dreams of financial success at this very moment...more than ever before in human history. Four of my five siblings have mortgaged a house before hitting 30 in America. The simple truth is that some people's expectations will always outpace their reality, leaving them perpetually dissatisfied and miserable. Being too stupid to change either their expectations or their reality, they remain stuck in their negative paradigm.
>>2836430The outland regions of America definitely have a huge number of social misfits. Most people who travel America enjoy meeting such people and find their unique personalities to be fascinating, but if you're some elitist snob who only wants to associate with wealthy attractive people, then yeah you'll be keeping to yourself when out in the boonies.>>2836409If you want to travel cheap, you can't be a bullheaded traveler insisting on doing things exactly according to your whims. You have to seek out the path of least financial resistance. I chose a flight date ten days before Thanksgiving, the last day of discounted fares before the holiday travel season commenced. When I land in a country, I don't pick the most famous meme destinations. I pick places that are easy to get to and a good value to stay in.
>>2836387If european gas prices are an issue then you're basically homeless tier income. At that point sure, go to a third world shithole in SEA where you belong.
>>2836584Why does every /trv/ get fed botted so hard? Gaslighting doesn't work when zoomers are looking at retarded rent and low pay, the graduating cohorts now have high unemployment rates than people who didn't go to university at all.
>>2836292This desu. If the US has simply not frozen and seized Russian assets, even if they continued to supply aid, nobody would ponder dedollarization like they are now.
/pol/ is leaking again but in a different way. That board is full of russian paid shills now and somehow they found /trv/.
>ITT
>>2836281from where to where, what class?
>>2836748From my neck, to my back. Lick my pussy and my crack.First class bitch.
>>2836626I simply don't wish to pay such prices. My money my choice motherfucker.
>>2836420>>2836431Retards.>>2836281To where?
Well they aid that back when I was rolling hard, covid cause major inflation so your savings are probably worth shit.But if we did it back then, we can do it now
>>2836281>Are the days of cheap travel permanently over?nah, it's easier than ever... if you're flexibleI can't remember the last time I paid >700€ for a roundtrip ticketround trip central Europe to >US is <500€ year round>SEA is <600€ in low season>East Asia is <700€ in low season>sub sahara Africa is <600€ year round>Central / South America is <700€ in low seasonand of course Europe + North Africa + middle East is always <300€half that if you're okay flying with budget airlinesthe only expensive destination are>pacific islands>Australia + NZbut they never were cheapI fly 4-8x year (round trips) and my total flight costs is pretty constant at ~3000€/y flying almost exclusively Star Alliancesometimes I spend extra on exit row or upgrades, but I don't count this into this>>2836343>but accomodation as a percentage of travel cost has gone up tremendously>averaged 61% of travel cost going toward accomodationyou either travel very cheaply or stay in very expensive roomsgranted I travel with my wife so all cost is divided by 2for the last ~10y of travel, accommodation is always around 1/3 of the total cost (including flights / trains)
>>2839488The only round trip travel I do is a trip around the world every year, kekIn Laos I only spent 36% of my travel budget on accomodations, the lowest of any country (except on trips to Mexico where I primarily slept in my car).
>>2836287America has become like "what if Disneyland was just the entire thing and we asked for 30% tips on 180 dollar dinner for 4" The Country. Seriously the affluentocracy in this nation has reached evil levels. Every company knows somewhere out there is some asshole willing to spend what they are asking for their stuff so they don't care anymore.
>>2836325That's pretty cheap honestly. I paid $1300 for a Raleigh to Taipei ticket last year. In 2018, I paid $1000 for Raleigh to Hong Kong. God RDU needs more direct connections.
I've been thinking increasingly that it certainly might be. Prices just keep rising.
>>2836387That's because gas is subsidised there. A lot of developing nations do that.
>>2836284I just got my dream apartment for $1,1143 a month. Two beds two baths, close to everything. Sweet home Alabama.
>>2836325>posting in a scheduled /trv/ demoralisation threadFlights really are so fucking cheap these days.Around Europe you can spend more at the airport getting food and a beer than on the actual flightGoing from Sydney to Singapore, 8 hour flight, I normally pay $220 AUD ($150 USD) for an economy seat outside of school holidaysThe train ticket from my house in Sydney to the airport costs $25 in comparison.
Only by getting out of the country and experiencing life overseas have I been able to gauge the true cost of living the travel life. You can absolutely empty your wallet on overpriced flights, accomodations, tours and food...but that doesn't negate the existence of bargains. The world is full of people who fucking SUCK at managing money. They constantly bitch about how everything is too expensive and they can't afford anything. If you have basic numbers sense, you can safely ignore their complaints as they will not be relevant to your experience.
>>2836281I hope so
>>2844420budget travel tips pls
>>2836281What the fuck are you talking about, tickets from Denver to Europe are the same price as they were 10 years ago. I also looked at flights from Europe to China and they're like $450, and then to get across the pacific back to Denver is gonna be around $600, so I'll be circumnavigating the world for less than $2k. True, that's the "basic economy" prices I'm looking at, but it gets you from A to B. Why even make a retarded thread
>>2844671>I'm a poor cheapskate and would sick dick to fly in the cargo bin for $100. Yeah we know