I don't know where to ask this, here's the deal:Since I reproduced I'm taking my family to safe resorts. We've been twice to Sinai - once in Taba and once in Sharm El Sheikh. Both times ended up with us puking and shitting our guts out after a week. Something like that never happened anywhere else in Egypt or in rest of the world (East Africa, Caribbeans, South America, SEA etc.) and we exclusively eat hotel food and drink bottled water.Was that just a bad lucks? Anyone knows something about some particular virus or bacteria in Sinai?
>>2836443I listen to a scuba diving podcast by a guy based in Sharm and all the guests he interviews talk about how Sinai gives them the gigashits. And these are well traveled people. It’s probably the Russian infestation spreading germs
>>2836478settle down, hohol
>>2836478>probably the Russian infestation spreading germsNonsense. I was in Dubai once and it didn't end up like that.
>>2836443>eats hotel food in a Third World country>gets sickEvery. Single. Time. Stop being so lazy, go out and hunt for a good place to eat instead of scarfing down whatever slop gets brought to your room door.
>>2836443> gets shitting and vomiting> keeps coming back and brings entire family too some people are just retarded. can't you go to a normal travel destination like Greece or Kenya
>>2836443>>2836478You know how Mexico has Montezuma's Revenge? People should start calling this the Sinai Sickness.Don't eat the salads or anything raw. Don't drink bottled water except from the hotel or a national/international store chain.
>>2836598>Stop being so lazy, go out and hunt for a good place to eat instead of scarfing down whatever slop gets brought to your room door.Great advice you give to normies you hate. I was like you some time ago. Witnessing your small child puking its guts out in 3rd world country is something that changes people.>>2836613>normal travel destinationSinai is normal travel destination retard. Sharm is main resort of Egypt (despite being flooded by Russians).>>2836620>Don't eat the salads or anything raw. Don't drink bottled water except from the hotel or a national/international store chain.We know the score. We're also taking probiotics weeks ahead. Didn't help in case of Sinai.
>>2836620I went to Mexico as a teen. I wanted to go to Spain, but 9/11 happened, and my neurotic mom figured Mexico was safer and less far than Spain somehow so it was Mexico or nothing. I just ate the local food (the street food was the best part) and drank normal water. I recall having sort of a low grade diarrhea most of the time but nothing painful or sickness inducing.
>sick from hotel foodI've got two words for you: Indian workers.
>>2836696There are over 100 million of Egyptians in Egypt. They don't hire Indian staff in there.
>>2836691well sadly you're the one with the sick kid buddy lol i'm just messing obviously you can get sick anywhere.
>>2836443Nearly every single time I hear about someone getting severe diarrhea or food poisoning while traveling, they say>How did I get food poisoning? I only ate hotel food and never once at what the locals eat!You ate shit that's heated and reheated countless times for you and the other tourists that let 90% of their food go to waste. You eat ingredients that are shipped there from 8000 miles away and half rotten by the time they arrive. You ate from a hotel that has no repeat customers. People stay there a few days, go home, and never return, so there's nobody to go back and hassle the restaurant for making them sick. You ate food made by people who've never eaten that food before. You're eating pork cooked by Muslims and beef cooked by Hindus. They're probably smearing feces on it to fuck with you.Now go out and eat at a popular local restaurant. People aren't shitting their brains out. They're using local ingredients. They're eating hot foods only. The kitchens are often open and people can look in to see whether it's sanitary. You can never, ever see inside a hotel kitchen. Locals in third world countries who get food poisoning will carry out mob justice against a person running a dirty restaurant.
>>2836707Sometimes it's not just food poisoning. Sometimes it's local virus or bacteria and other microorganisms that are very different someone's gut microbiota. When my friend traveled to India 20 years ago she had to take specific probiotic, just so she'll have diarhea for a month instead of several months.It's not just hotel slop = bad, local fresh = good (or vice versa). You have to be picky anyway, but sometimes montezuma or pharaoh or other local demon will curse you just because.
>>2836712Probiotics are also a meme. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8166250/Eating dry yogurt pills (that's all probiotics are) doesn't do anything for fighting viruses and bacteria. They're probably fine for health in general, but they won't protect you from anything. All probiotic bacteria do is break down carbs in your gut. If anything, taking a random supplement only when you take a trip might be the thing fucking you up. But low IQ normies will never connect those dots.
>>2836712>When my friend traveled to India 20 years ago she had to take specific probiotic, just so she'll have diarhea for a month instead of several months.Wouldn't your microflora develop quicker if you didn't take probiotics?
>>2836720>links a pubmed article he didnt readback to r'eddit lil nigga
>>2836722>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8166250/Probiotics probably make little or no difference to the number of people who have diarrhoea lasting 48 hours or longer, and we are uncertain whether probiotics reduce the duration of diarrhoea.
>>2836720>All probiotic bacteria do is break down carbs in your gut.That's the point. They make cells in your guts stronger and more resistant to pathogens.However it's not just joghurt or sauerkraut. There are probiotics that are more specialized depending on where you travel.>>2836721>Wouldn't your microflora develop quicker if you didn't take probiotics?That "microflora" isn't just common bacteria like lactobacillus, but whole lot of different stuff (even fungi and viruses) that's plenty in one place on Earth, but rare in other place. From what she told me she had to take specific Indian probiotic that consist Indian stuff (yes, nasty, I know), just so her guts get use to that before it's flooded with it in India.
>>2836724Yes retard, you parroted the conclusion and didn’t read the rest of the paper which would suggest this study does fuckall to accurately measure probiotic use in adults
>>2836727Took them preemptively. Smart
>>2836728Cool. So what's the source on probiotics having any sort of benefit other than advice from mommy bloggers your fat wife reads on facebook?
>>2836737>In a meta‐analysis, probiotics reduced the duration of diarrhoea among children (weighted mean difference ‐0.67 days, 95% confidence interval (CI) ‐0.95 to ‐0.38; Salari 2012). In children from middle‐ and high‐income countries, probiotics reduced diarrhoea duration by 14% (95% CI 3.8% to 24.2%) and stool frequency on day two by 13.1% (95% CI 0.8% to 25.3%; Applegate 2013).That's from that article you pasted (if that was you). However it is useless for this thread, as it says nothing about preemptive probiotics taken before travel:>No study specifically recruited or excluded travellers, and none identified any participants as suffering from travellers' diarrhoea.
>>2836443The Sharm el Shits are pretty well known.
>>2836738So it reduces the diarrhea of the fat children birthed by your fat wife by a few hours, if that. Know what has probiotics? Local food with local bacteria.
>>2836691I want to see ingredients being taken out of a refrigerator, and my meal being prepared. IDGAF if I cough on the cooking fumes. I'm not eating shit prepared who knows when and quickly reheated in a microwave before being served.If you do not bring dichloroisocyanurate water purification tablets to freakin' Egypt, IDK what to tell you. I never travel overseas without them in my pack. You can buy them at dosages to treat almost any size of water bottle, from 500 mL to 4 L. BTW, if you ever took a look inside a hotel water dispenser, you might be horrified to see how filthy it is. I've had globs of green bacteria-laden slime drop into my water bottle while filling it, and the water smelled bad on more than one occasion. The Singha glass pop-top mineral water bottles you get in Isaan budget hotels are the best hotel water in existence, because the rooms always come with a fridge as well.
>>2836712Gut infections are usually slower onset and much longer-lasting than food poisoning. >>2836707I'd rather eat decent simple food while standing at a shelf than lounge in some padded-chair restaurant that serves literal rotted food to customers.
>>2836691> full of swarthy rapey Egyptians> normal kek. even a humble country like Jordan would be better to visit
>>2836762>Local food with local bacteria.Please tell me this retard, because you're obviously missing whole point of taking probiotics before the travel:How is somebody suppose to prepare his guts for that local bacteria in some 3rd world country, while living many thousand of kilometers away?
>>2836814You mean you're using purification tablets for every water? Even bottled hotel water?After hearing some horror stories I'm using bottled water exclusively when I'm in Egypt, even for washing my teeth.>>2836816>Gut infections are usually slower onset and much longer-lasting than food poisoning.Yup. Worst one lasted 2 weeks after coming back home, while still being on Egyptian medicine that my doctor told me to keep taking because he was not familiar with that sickness.
>>2836901Usually I'm too cheap to buy bottled water. As long as the tap water has no discoloration, floating particles or horrible sewage taste, I'll drop in an Ef-Chlor tab and go on about my day. At eight cents per tablet, they're cheaper than buying a 1.5 liter bottle.>>2836899You can start after arrival by only eating foods that are bacteria-free, i.e. hot foods, fruits with rinds, etc. Then over time, you begin introducing the riskier foods. There's no hard and fast solution. Sometimes you eat something a little dirty or fermented which introduces a good mix of bacteria, thus ensuring that you can eat like a local going forward and never get sick. The experience of getting used to a new set of gut flora can be quite uncomfortable. Grumbling noises, a bloated feeling, messy soft shits that burn your asshole on the way out, and mild cramps may all occur on a regular basis. Eating less food, and avoiding consumption of liquid for a couple hours after eating, helps concentrate your gastric juices, kill more bacteria and better process degraded/contaminated food. That being said, if you ate something that irritates your stomach and ruins your appetite, the best solution might be to eat something else and push it along.
