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Going to London end of november for the concert on wembley. Should i book a place at wembley district or somewhere else? Only cool thing i saw in this district is some large hinduist temple that looks pretty dope. Any comfy cheapish place you would recommend to book? How to not get killed in London?
Other than that - are more touristy London places like BigBen, Buckingham Palace, Abbey church worth to see? Because they are expensive , 50pounds per ticket as i see it. Worth it or not?
How the train will be end of november? I am considering taking train London -> Hereford and stop here and there for any places of note, for example this cheaper version of Stonehenge i saw recommended somewhere. I will be in England probably for a week. So should i spend as much as possible in London or train journey to some more rural places, pubs etc also good idea?
Thoughts on this plan?
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>>2836973
>wembley
idk
>Any comfy cheapish place you would recommend to book?
Cheap in London is hard to find. But try to stay in zone 1-2.
>are more touristy London places like BigBen, Buckingham Palace, Abbey church worth to see?
Pass by but go to free museums instead.
>train
I'd just do a daytrip to Oxford. Plenty to see in London in a week.
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>>2836973
>Any comfy cheapish place you would recommend to book?
nowhere in london is "cheapish"
>How to not get killed in London?
live a normal life and stop using social media as a source of news
>Other than that - are more touristy London places like BigBen, Buckingham Palace, Abbey church worth to see? Because they are expensive , 50pounds per ticket as i see it. Worth it or not?
buckingham palace is closed to the public over winter
all of the major museums and galleries in london are free to enter the permanent exhibitions
>How the train will be end of november?
same as any other time of the year
>I am considering taking train London -> Hereford and stop here and there for any places of note, for example this cheaper version of Stonehenge i saw recommended somewhere. I will be in England probably for a week. So should i spend as much as possible in London or train journey to some more rural places, pubs etc also good idea?
>Thoughts on this plan?
just go where you want. it's up to you dude. as usual on this board you haven't provided any information about budget, what kind of stuff you are into or anything else so you are only going to get vague answers in return
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>>2836995
Saturday flight price to London can vary from 40£ to ... 18£. For exactly same standard.
Only difference is that cheapest 18 pound flight lands in airport at 23:55 - and i have to then find the hotel.
Is this a main catch and is this a problem?
Do i have large probability of being robbed at that time?
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>>2836973
Neasden is the temple you're referring to, I assume? It's interesting, if you're into that kind of thing
Westminster Abbey is an incredible place and definitely worth seeing in person
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Do not under any circumstances stay near Wembley
Stay central-ish and get the Tube, it's pretty easy
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>>2838727
Those cheap Ryanair/Easyjet airports have nothing to with London beside the name. They're a 1h+ out of the city and mostly kinda shitty connected.
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>>2839206
willesden green is fine, it's just London tends to be more boring the further out you stay
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>>2836973
Good-morning Anon. I live and have travelled extensively throughout the country. Barring the Jurrassic coast and surrounding areas, I know the country better than everybody else. Here is what you need to know.

- Should I book a place at Wembley District.
No, you won't need to as Wembley is relatively close to the more central areas of London, you could get a cheap hostel in Marylebone for sub-£20 (I tend to use Bell House hostel for Marylebone. Or Phoenix House for Paddington - both are rough though so your mileage may vary). The Safestay hostels in London are generally cheap if basic and stuffy during Summer, though not as cheap a slightly nicer alternative to the other two I've put forward if you can stomach the extra few quid.

I wouldn't book a hotel in London unless you're a madman.

To answer your second question;
- Big Ben: Unsure. You can get into the Houses of Parliament for free, just be ready to queue and see a likely uninteresting debate.
- Abbey church. You're mileage may vary. Westminster Catholic Cathedral is free and is really cool in my opinion (near Victoria station if you happen to be in the area). I refuse to pay the extortionate church prices, and there are more interesting churches architecturally in the country.
- Buckingham Palace: Didn't know you could get in. I assume it depends on whether you have castle fatigue or not. All castles in the country tend to have rip-off prices. Windsor you barely see anything yet pay an arm or leg, I assume Buckingham's the same but best to check the 1-star reviews on Google Maps. I know for a fact that there are many private areas inaccessible to the public.

Third question: All public transport in the UK is overpriced compared to EU transport due to A. Lack of subsidies and B. Obsessive use of surge pricing.
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>>2836973
Part 2:
As a rule of thumb, book all train tickets at least 3 days in advance. I'd argue as soon as you know your itenerary, book them straight away. Due to how National Rail operates its best to stick to one site, Trainline is my go-to. You could for a time get the railcard for half price from Trip though I don't know if this offer still stands - and if you buy a railcard you have to use whichever medium you bought it from to book your tickets. For example I have a railcard from Trainline, therefore I have can only book through them to use it. Also note that you have to select the railcard when booking which the site will sometimes conveniently forget to add automatically when booking.

Bus transport is slow and inefficient, it WAS cheaper than train years ago though given the cost of time and increasing prices I'd argue its the worst of both worlds. National Express is particularly terrible in regard to pricing, though they tend to monopolise a lot of the routes from airports (there's increasing competition from Flibco recently, though I'm not sure how they stack up).

Its worth noting that Flixbus operate in the UK and are reasonably priced, but they can be awkward to get to (there's a stop in Reading which has a fair few decent routes which could be useful if going west if only to save some coin).

You may encounter train strikes - typically if a train gets cancelled you take the train before or after for free. You also have delay repay if a train gets delayed past 15 mins and is usually generous though the train companies tend to make a process out of getting it.

I haven't been to the market town of Hereford largely due to it being very out of the way and close to Wales. You should understand 'cheaper version of Stonehenge' - yes Stonehenge where the demons live is expensive, but nearby Avebury is free and comprises many sites betwixt Stonehenge and Salisbury. Also Salisbury itself has Old Saren on the outskirts.
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>>2836973
Note that Salisbury and stonehenge can be a tad awkward to get to. But the city itself is nice for UK city standards and has a lovely cathedral... which now costs £11-13 to get in. It seems Southwestern Railways do a ticket from London Waterloo to Salisbury at 07:50 for £12.20 (keep in mind railcard on my end, so add some quids to that).Tickets across the day aren't as bad as I expected. If you're going to see Stonehenge I'd stay in Salisbury for the day providing you can find cheap accomodation.

Not to say that the market town of Hereford would lead you to your doom, but it does put you far out of the way of anything and seems a poor choice unless you plan on going into Wales and have more than a week of an itinerary.

You could spend a lifetime in London and never fully mine the town, things come and go all the time. Its one of the few cities where you can reliably go in without a plan and find things to do. The only things I don't recommend are;
- Shopping: Carnaby and Saville still have some niche interesting stores but are largely tourist traps. Westfield is Dubai-tier soulless.
- Borough and Camden market: Unless you want to pay £11 for loaded cheap carbs and not much else you're not going to get any mileage. Everything in Borough is a complete rip-off.
- 'British' food: You won't get decent stuff in London unless you want to tickle your fancy for jellied eels. Generally you want to be either on the coast (for fish and chips, obviously, and you have to do your research as they're oftentimes scams) or in some country gastropub many of which tend to be incredibly nice but hard to access.

These days I mooch off Toogoodtogo rather than eating out. For London its particularly useful due to how many restaurants/ cafes there are. I particularly like Firehouse which I think has an outlet near Wembley - £5 for a quality pizza. Also near Paddington there's the Granier Bakery where you pay £4 and get stupid amounts of quality food.
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>>2836973
Inb4 Teto-posting only to ensure posts are at least glanced at, I don't like her.

Note on Toogoodtogo: If its your first time using the app and you aren't experienced, don't touch anything below a 4.0 rating unless you want to be buried in croissants and banana breads. I'm still skeptical between 4.0-4.3. 4.4 seems to be the cut-off point where you reliably get good bags.

Otherwise for food in London, Soho is the best area, it used to be pricey but funnily enough due to the retarded inflation in the country - London-prices have more or less become the new norm throughout the country, so London itself and particularly Soho don't seem as bad... to a Bong at least.

Japes do quality Chicago-style pizza. Oshpaz I tend to use if I'm near Regent Street, quality Uzbek stuff and pretty damn cheap! Chinese food you can get from the Soho Chinatown, due to the 'walk-ups' in the area expect to be hassled by annoying Nigerians and things if you go there solo. There's a lot of good sandwich bars in London, use Google Maps honestly. Coffee... Colonna is my go-to. Dark Arts are allegedly really good. Prufrock (James Hoffman's joint) is pretty decent too. Again though, you're spoilt for choice and it really doesn't matter. Worth noting Cafe Nero -> Costa Coffee -> Starbucks both in coffee and in Toogoodtogo bags.
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>>2836973
Now that I've read that you'll be in England for probably a week, please don't go to the market town of Hereford.

You could base in London for the week and train out to relatively close destinations. I'm based in Oxford, its a 1hr 20 mins. train ride on the Chiltern for sub-£10 if booked in advance and is easily the best mid-sized city in the UK. All cities greater than 150,000 people are underwhelming compared to their European equivalents. London is the obvious exception, and to its credit Brighton has a fairly nice seafront. Bristol could be recommended but southern people pretending to be 'norf' and hipsters cause me to have a seizure like Pitfall Harry so I could never get far there.

Some cool trips I've done within/ near London;
- Postal Museum: Cool if niche museum, has a fun little ride and is more intimate I feel than most paid museums in London.
- Nat. History Museum: Free, book in advance. SWARMED with tourists, but otherwise nice.
- Towers of London: Overpriced, interesting architecture that is uncommmon even in the UK. If you don't have castle fatigue, could be recommended but again, SWARMED with tourist. You'll find this is a common theme for most of London, its too dense for its own good. In fairness my current town of Oxford is a fucking sandwich during the weekends, a lot of the nice mid-small sized towns are poorly placed to take lots of tourists and so the tourist towns are usually queued up to shit. Worth noting in a similar vein that the 'comfy Cotswold villages' are anything but, especially if you're driving.
- Chatham Docks: Approx. 1hr train ride from London Blackfriars + a 30-45 min. walk. If you're into naval history or like looking at boats. Strongly recommend as the ticket price though high (£20-30) includes access onto many of the boats and a tour of a submarine... if probably the most rushed tour I've ever seen.
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>>2836973
- Southend-on-Sea: Approx 1hr 10 mins from London Liverpool. Fun seaside resort, tacky in a good way. Has an amusement park with a roller coaster of unbefitting expense for such a small joint. Also has a REAAAAALLY long pier.
- Richmond/ Kew: Kew though a 'world heritage site' I wouldn't recommend unless you really like plants or happen to be going to Richmond anyway. Richmond itself is a nice area in London, you could say its sort of like an outer city/ suburb thing but clearly busier than most city centres elsewhere in the country. I've taken a nice stroll along the river itself. Went to Ham House which tragically is a National Trust property (the heritage trust of doom, and vastly more expensive than their competitors English Heritage).
- Wembley itself: More passed by and had to walk through for some reason recently, I can't remember why. All you need to know is that you exit the nearby tube station and the stadium is right there in front of you, you can't fuck it up.
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>>2836973
UK AIRPORTS FOR DUMMIES;

As he who flies most weekends, I know UK airports better than anybody else. If you want to know about UK airports (outside Scotland), ask me.

London Airport rankings: City -> Heathrow -> Gatwick -> Luton ->>> Stansted.

Tragically, City is very niche and tends to be a pricier option, its unlikely you'll use it despite being the only London airport located in London. A quick guide to the others;

Heathrow: Typically the second most expensive, though BA do some cheap short-haul flights from there every now and then. Transport connections are significantly better than the other airports outside London and you have direct access to the tube via the Elizebeth Line which stops off at numerous stops in central London, you could easily tube it to Paddington and transfer to one of the lines that takes you to Wembley or otherwise to other parts of London.

Gatwick: Located in Crawley about an hour south of London. Split into north and south airports with free monorail betwixt them. You can use Thameslink to get into London (train service, not too dissimilar to the tube in function). There's no rhyme or reason to taking the bus from there.

Luton: Haven't gone to London from Luton before, its attached the Luton obviously, home to a stadium that rivals Wembley. The city itself could be fun to briefly visit if you want the /britpol/ experience. I'll leave it at that.

You can no doubt get the NE to London from there but it'll be extortionate. There should be a train service if not from the airport then from the city which has bus connections to the airport.

Stansted: The bain of my existence, yet Ryanair and Wizzair love operating from here. Its got more cheap short-haul flights than anywhere else but arguably winds up more expensive due to the shitty transport situation. Fortunately for London you have Stansted Express - an overpriced direct train to London Liverpool Street. Still way better than even worse NE and possibly bad Flibco.
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>>2836973
Also, as that reminds me;

If you happen to be near Liverpool Street for any reason. Walk around the perimeter of St. Paul's Cathedral (they charge a lot to get in), and the nearby Barbican estate which is far prettier than one may initially perceive and itself hosts a nice concert venue.

Alright, that concludes the big guide. Safe travels boyo.
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>>2836973
I would recommend a quick train hop down to Brokenhurst via Southampton to go down to the New Forest. Straight up comfy down there. Loads of tea houses and cow pastures. You can also enjoy the sport where William's sons were killed in a hunting accident.
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Thank you a lot for guide anon! Can I know why you don't recommend hotels in London? I am bit too light sleeper for hostels desu .
It does not seem all very expensive I hope I won't be priced out and forced to sit in my room all days as I bought plane ticket for 3 days before concert .
Stansted express I should also book in advance right?
Do you know any pubs with aged bar bunnies and bored milfs who want some fun? How to increase my status quickly enough to get some slags and lead them down to friend friendly hotel?
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About Hereford - I was already there, it's just that my old friend living there. He thought I may visit him and then he could drive or take a train , whatever to Scotland, Edinburg for example. But yes it may not bea feasible in just half of week and then take plane from Scotland back home?
When it comes to London I am mostly interested in electronic music so would like to check some of the raves there, maybe catch up some music workshop event if possible, maybe catch some beginner salsa lesson, whatever. I hope weather won't be ridiculously shit kek, I remember 3 years ago it was quite pleasant in december
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>>2840185
People aren't recommending hotels because Brits generally won't pay through the nose for a central london hotel. You're looking at a £150 a night starting price. Go for a chain hotel and you'll get a minimum acceptable standard.

You're probably not going to get good hookup advice here but I'd say your best bet is Covent garden. Lots of bars, pubs, theatres. Much higher portion of people on a night out compared to international tourists and it'll skew a bit older and middle class because you get the kind of people who just been to see The Mousetrap and now want to try out that nice looking cocktail bar they saw last time.

It's become gentrified but Camden is still full of venues, bars and people on a night out. Used to be prime big titty goth gf land but that was 15-20 year ago, dunno what it's like now.

Failing that, for Essex girl slags, Southend on sea is probably the place, especially for girls on hen dos. All seaside places get a bit dead if you go off season though.



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