I’m thinking of moving to a metro area someplace between DC and Boston, inclusive. Any advice?I’m kinda introverted, like access to interesting talks on policy/tech/philosophy, like to be able to spend weekends outdoors, like high quality food/dining experiences. I’m looking for a wife too. I’m really an independent or classical liberal but most people thought I was super conservative when I lived near an extremely left wing place several years ago. I want to be able to discuss policy and politics with open minded people who don’t think I’m Hitler or Pinochet because I agree with deporting illegals. Help me out? Any advice? I’m open to pretty much anything near the east coast but DC-Boston area seems best.
>>2839548How is it bait? I’m asking for help here.
>>2839531>I’m really an independent or classical liberal but most people thought I was super conservative when I lived near an extremely left wing place several years ago. I want to be able to discuss policy and politics with open minded people who don’t think I’m Hitler or Pinochet because I agree with deporting illegals.There is nowhere on the east coast that will fit this criteria, you have the south that still loves blacks because of football and the rural north loves blacks because they don't live around them. I lived in the DC area for 30 years if you have any specific questions about the DC, Baltimore and Annapolis area I can answer them.
DC is a military base and a weapons factory with suburbs.
>>2839561Are there many nonpretentious people there or is it all stuck up ladder climbers? I work in law/policy and think DC would be cool to live in to meet people with similar interests and they have the good food scene and speaking events. I’m mostly worried about the attitudes and people. If anything I think I’d live in northern Virginia. Any thoughts on the people and culture? >>2839565Yes and?
>>2839567If you are being paid handsomely to be there, and you only care about money, then DC is nice I guess. But otherwise it's violent spics and niggers and traffic and awful.>I work in law/policyof course you dot. been stuck in dc my whole life> Any thoughts on the people and culture?every mystery meat on earth lives in nova, even though hilariously, people live there to escape the worst of the niggers who mostly keep to dc and marylandbut in exchange you get persians and koreans and jeets etc. that said, if you are conservative, and want to meet young people: I recommend a condo in DC itself in Navy Yard, that's where the young conservatives live
>>2839531The northeast is definitely way more conservative than the west coast but that applies mostly to fiscal and social justice issues, not immigration. The only places you're going to find people like that are the chuddy suburbs of Long Island and New Jersey (where the dating pool is exclusively 40+ year old divorced women) or the Delmarva peninsula which is fairly rural and therefore not conducive for meeting women. I think you'd have better luck elsewhere but if you really want to do the northeast I would recommend Staten Island. You will need to be honest about your conservative status (no need to go into specifics, people will see Staten Island and conservative and put two and two together) which will make you ineligible for most of the dating pool in New York, but I think is your best chance at finding what you're looking for. >>2839567>Are there many nonpretentious people there or is it all stuck up ladder climbers?In Virginia (excluding Alexandria) and NW DC, no, that's all there is.
>>2839570>of course you doI now what you’re thinking, but I promise I’m not a typical yuppie. I’m really not that driven. >been stuck in DC whole lifeSorry to hear that. It sucks that modern economy is the way it is for most people. Especially if you have to support a family and the way rent is now. >Navy YardThanks for the recommendation!>>2839590Thanks, I live near NYC now and don’t really like the artistic energy. I like the more rational energy of DC or Boston but am just worried I won’t fit in. >AlexandriaThanks! I guess I’ll look there too. >>2839570>>2839590Honestly it’s not even about being around more conservatives. It’s about being around people who won’t treat me like a leper or make unfounded assumptions about an oversimplified label.
>>2839600If dating is really important to you I would strongly recommend against anywhere near DC until Trump is out of office. A ton of young conservative single men have flooded the area to get jobs in the new administration and not only do they outnumber conservative women easily 40:1 if not more, but they're also just generally speaking obnoxious and misogynist and the Trump administration specifically has been deliberately targeting DC and per policy "terrorize" feds and fed contractors which make up most of the employment to say nothing of the NGOs that are very women heavy. That makes them strongly dislike conservatives who are perceived to be for all of this, but also women just don't want to date when their lives are falling apart, which many feel they are due to conservative actions. You could lie and pretend to be more liberal but women always sniff it out eventually and if you're looking for something long term that's not sustainable.
>>2839606Thank you for the advice. I’m really very moderate and independent politically, but a handful of topics I go to the right on. Even though I hold progressive views too on other topics, left wing people seem to not care. I don’t want to live in the south (besides northern VA) and I’m not moving to Chicago or west of the Mississippi. It sucks people are like this. I don’t want to feel like a prisoner in my own heart and mind. And if anything I’d end up working for an NGO because my career is left wing oriented. And thanks, but no way I’m going to lie about politics to get laid. It’s not worth it nor have I had to lie so far.
>>2839567People in nova and DC are very stuck up and don't really debate against opposing viewpoints, everyone kind of assumes you agree with them on the current thing. DC especially is full of people who care about their career tok much. NoVa, DC and MD are dyspotian libtard hellholes with speed cameras in every intersection, overtaxxed, overpriced totalitarian shitholes where culture means paying $100 for brunch every weekend. Baltimore is a little more blue collar white trash but their niggers are much more violent + the city proper is much smaller. Annapolis is a fine place to live, old money Maryland and Navy officers with people who work in DC and Baltimore but don't want to live there.
>>2839531I dont understandbthe Jersey pines? I found some 5 bedroom houses on 3 acres in the middle of a issolated forest 1 hour from Downtown Philadelphia? Places cost 300kThat sounds like heaven. I'd kill for options like that in Calgary.I also learned today Napoleons older brother claimed to have saw the Jersey devil.
>>2839567Northern Virginia sucks.
>>2839686yes but for self pronounced conservatives who base their worth on how TRAD they are, it is 100% perfectDC is an ultra conservative southern city larping as something elseand NOVA are the more conservative suburbs anyways
>>2839680It is different in DC right now and OP is looking for LTRs not hook ups
>>2839689Northern Virginia is 100% perfect for people who like to look at parking lots and spend their lives on the highway.
>>2839758Sure, if you think Manassas is NOVA. Try living in McLean or north Arlington.
>>2839758I kind of spend a lot of time on the highway, but at least I'm going to pretty places. There's beautiful gorges and hills within 4-8 hours drive of DC, and most bitches don't know about that. I will say - the sheer amount of sprawl in NOVA is breathaking. Shitty apartments and small homes crammed in for miles and miles. I wonder what the heck they all do.
>>2839784>There's beautiful gorges and hills within 4-8 hours drive of DC, and most bitches don't know about that.pfffttt. Oh man, you'll fit right in!
>>2839531The Northeast Corridor is one of the most diverse regions in America, full of immigrants from all over the world. If you hate immigrants, it is the last place in America you should be looking to move to. My affluent New Jersey neighborhood growing up in the early 2000s was about 15% White. Lots of India Indians. NJ has more Indians than anywhere else in America. Traffic is a shitshow, but you'd be surprised how many open space and nature areas there are all over Central Jersey. Riding bicycles around as a kid, catching frogs and crayfish in streams with my siblings, it was a lot of fun.
>>2839790lol I don't fit in at allDC is a bizarre place almost nobody is from there its a lot of people from like the midwest who want boring stable government or military jobs the people are simultaneously boring, snooty and fakethere's no politeness, no friendliness, everyone is ladder-climbing and competitive with the thinnest veneer of leftist performative concern, and it's an absolute racial cloaca
>>2839636The Pine Barrens are New Jersey's empty space. I remember the first time driving through with my senpai on a trip to Cape May, shocked to see no houses whatsoever on the side of the highway. Speed Limit 55, holy shit! You never see 55 mph speed limits on two-lane highways elsewhere in the state. The state forests are pretty cool if you like seclusion and are okay with mediocre scrubby scenery. Lots of sandy roads to cruise along in your high-clearance vehicle. >>2839611Americans don't really discuss politics face to face in [current year]. The risk of a disagreement escalating into a nasty argument - whether with a stranger, close friend or family member - is simply too high.
>>2839531RI and eastern CT are fairly cheap, you can get to Boston and NYC (or any of the typical New England wooded areas) any time you want, your political views wouldn't be out of place
>>2839531Plymouth is pretty good. Also the unwritten rule is that liberals pretend not to be racist but are.
OP here returning to read more replies.Besides super rural area, does anyone have recommendations beyond DC? If you read my whole OP it says I’m interested in anything in the northeast corridor. Tell me about Boston area?To all who have commented, thank you. This is all valuable, even though I have to take some of it with salt. >>2839793I have nothing against immigrants at all. I come from immigrants. They didn’t enter and stay illegally though. >>2839797I take it you advise against living in the area? >>2839871Thank you! Over the past two days I started looking closer to Boston because it seems less intense than DC but still intellectual enough to meet interesting people. Where I grew up up people were boring and status obsessed. Where I live now it’s similar but in a NYC metro area flavor. Even though I’m technically outside the metro area. >>2840061I’ve noticed that about a lot of left wing people especially those who virtue signal a lot.
>>2839531i mean this honestly, do not move to the NYC metro area. its terrible here, especially for finding a wife.
>>2839636NJ is the most densely populated state, but it still has miles of empty wilderness in the pine barrens, and in the mountains an hour west of NYC. And several thousand farms. Look at a density map.
>>2839531Hartford. You’re a 40 minute drive from New Haven but there’s already a ton in Hartford. The people from there who stay are conservative, so conservative they all upped sticks and moved to a different city leaving the black people in the shithole of a city proper
>>2844591Why is that? Doesn't it have the best ratio and quantity of successful women?
>>2839777It ist. works in Manassas
>>2846407I just checked and its only 13% white in Hartford?
>>2847815they have by far the highest standards. they all see themselves as the best women on earth because they're able to make it in NYC when in reality nobody really cares about their profession. they want tall, rich guys to support their travel habits, not a real husband to have kids with. they're also by far the most racist against white males, as in many of them straight up hate white males and will date any other race of man first. you'll still probably find girls to hook up with, but none to seriously date.
>>2839531DC has a fun "Theology on Tap" group
>>2847995>the most fun thing in dc is magical bullshitsounds about right
>>2844591>>2847986Any alternatives then? It seems any medium-to-large city or college town has the same problems you mention with the added disadvantage of a lopsided ratio in the women's favor.
>>2848003the south
>>2848004What part? Nashville, Atlanta, Louisville, and Dallas aren't any better in my experience.
>>2848005better how? what kind of better are you expecting/hoping for?
>>2848011It isn't any better in the sense that the women are no less uppity in those areas regardless of educational background. Since COVID, transplants from California and the Northeast have moved to these areas en masse bringing their expectations with them. The locals that can afford to stay in the area in turn adopt similar expectations in addition to their religious hangups.
>>2848016>women are no less uppitymaybe you are being uppity and have simply failed to communicate with women what you want from them >Since COVID, transplants from California and the Northeast have moved to these areas en masseI feel like you belong in Dallas or Houston. >in addition to their religious hangups.???
>>2848021>???Every woman in the South, regardless of the dating app, claims she wants a good, hardworking man that loves her and God. The sincerity of the claim will vary from woman to woman, but regardless, religion always seems to be convenient a justification for why she won't sleep you, why she ghosted you, and why she doesn't do anything with her free time besides scroll TikTok all day. Too many Trailer Swifts believe their entitled to Superman for price of just showing up. They just don't say it outright.
>>2848025you are judging people collectively without individual merit while expecting to be judged yourself as an individualit seems your standards are perhaps too high, or you don't have as much to offer as you think you domaybe try being a bit lower key and less forceful with your denunciations, or try dating men instead if you hate women so much also what about asheville and finding an outdoorsy chick?
>>2848026>>2848026> you are judging people collectively without individual merit while expecting to be judged yourself as an individual it seems your standards are perhaps too high,To a certain degree, this is true. But that's because I've acquired considerable experience in the dating markets of these cities. It's not that my standards are too high so much as they don't live up to their own standards and unwarranted expectations of me. Admittedly, I've had better luck with Koreans, Indians, and Arabs, but cultural differences tend to cut any budding relationships short. At least they end on a much more honest note.>maybe try being a bit lower key and less forceful with your denunciations, or try dating men instead if you hate women so much I would if I could, but I don't swing that way. >also what about asheville and finding an outdoorsy chick? I haven't been to NC. Maybe I'll do that when the economy gets better. From what I've read, Asheville's basically Nashville with a lot more transplants. But with the hurricanes, floods, and funding cuts, the area might start to depopulate before I get around to that. So who knows how that'll turn out.
>>2839531What do you do for work and how old are you?
>>2840210I have lived in the Mass/CT area my entire life. If you want to live in New England, but between Boston and NYC, there are average towns, poor towns, and the best towns. I will list some of the best ones.## CT ##>West of Hartford:W.Hartford, Farmington, Glastonbury, Simsbury, Avon>CT Coast (affluent, highly educated, easy to commute to New Haven, Hartford, or NYC)West of New Haven: - Fairfield Country (-Bridgeport), MilfordEast of New Haven: - Guilford, Madison, Clinton, Old Saybrook (area)## Mass ##>Western Mass (centered around Northampton and Amherst) - anything around this area, north of Holyoke, is nice, lot's of local stuff - this is where UMass and several private colleges are>Eastern Mass (a giant suburb of Boston) - these towns are very expensive (like Fairfield CT), but mostly nice. Lot's of famous schools, culture, jobs, history, and it's close to the Cape - it's Boston.I would also encourage you to investigate South-Eastern New Hampshire, very affluent, near Boston, and no sales tax.Just Google: best towns in [CT | Mass]>>2846407You mean West Hartford. Hartford is poor.
>>2850650samefaggingIf you're looking for a spouse, you're basically just talking about the Boston area or Stamford CT since it's semi-affordable and near the biggest city in the US. But I'd go with the Boston area.
Don’t let the resident jeet fud you out of NYC. Unlike what he claims in every nyc thread, if you actually go there most girls are with white dudes who are probably conservative. And only walled millennial hags give that much of a shit about politics anyways. Zoomer girls are way more chill about it.
