What's the best city in the USA for the "big city" feel but without nonwhites?
portlandchattanooga
>>2839810Literally every major big city in the US has nonwhites. Inner cities are where poorer people congregate. Statistically speaking non-whites are the poorest in the US. The few New England states with very low pops of non-white also don't have big cities that would "wow" anyone.
Broadway, Downtown Nashville
>>2839813>portlandI want to be able to walk from my bnb or hotel to a coffee shop without getting accosted by homeless people, and then I want to be able to sit at the coffee shop and work on my laptop without anyone noticing me or talking to me. So Portland is probably out.>chattanoogaRedpill me on Chattanooga
>>2839824portland the homeless people are white and harmless its literally the ideal situationblack homeless people are 10x worse and more aggro also portland is very walkable>Redpill me on Chattanoogaits bougie as fuckits nicer than knoxvillethe traffic blowsits kinda hemmed in by mountains and water so there's not a lot of roomI haven't really had TOO much time there but it's surprisingly fancy for Appalachiayes, there's non-whites but it's comparatively minordefinitely recommend it - niedlov's bakery get the croissants not the bagels and really you should be there for the nearby hiking not the city -cloudland canyon *warning packed with jeets on weekends*little river canyonsnoopers rock/prentice cooper wma in general - yes you can drive RIGHT to it but the road is rough and very rough at the end recommend parking at the final lot and walking the last little bit if you don't have chonkay tires and/or a Jeep cathedral caverns (don't miss it)lodge cast iron store (factory seconds for cheap)chatt has homeless people too though it just is very developedand the sequatchie valley just to the west is gorgeous recommend a drive through it
>>2839810Go to Eastern Europe. You won't find what you're looking for in burgerland. Every time I stand in the "US Passport" line while entering America, I see firsthand evidence that European-descended peoples are already a minority in this country. It is what it is. No use seething and screeching about it.>>2839824He's trolling youChattanooga is 29% black, like most Southern cities, but segregation is still a thing, meaning that some neighborhoods and establishments will have far fewer blacks than others. It's not a big city either. Downtown looks like the typical low-density heartland American city, with 50x more cars than people on the streets (everyone is too fat and lazy to walk anywhere).
>>2839827Ok, ok. Portland vs. Seattle? I've never been to either one and the impression I have in my head is that they're similar somehow.
>>2839828>Go to Eastern Europe. You won't find what you're looking for in burgerlandBig sigh. Closest thing to it?
>>2839830Portland is just a smaller shittier version of Seattle
>>2839828>Chattanooga is 29% blackbullshit11% and they are pretty tameits way way less bad than most american cities>>2839830ive never been to seattle, but I did live in pdx for a bit and my impression is that pdx is whiter and smaller, funkierI'm not sure how seattle is, but pdx socially is very cliquey and insular and unless you are super outgoing or don't care about friends at all - it may be hardnow, just for visiting, I highly recommend portland - and to visit haystack rocks at cannon beach while therealso thought hood river was a very cute town for a day trip + you should visit Bend if you have time and see tumalo falls
>>2839810doesnt exist
>>2839830You are getting trolled. Portland is a shithole full of psychotic antifa, blacks and homeless.
>>2839837not at all, you aren't comparing it to east coast cities filled with violent black demons, portland is heaven next to that
>>2839810Lincoln Nebraska and some cities in Iowa are kinda big Maybe Boise Idaho too
>I want to be able to walk from my bnb or hotel to a coffee shop without getting accosted by homeless peopleThen you don't want the big city experience. If you don't dig the grittiness then the big city ain't for you. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tj2zJ2Wvg
>>2839838>>2839833>>2839830>>2839827>>2839824>>2839813Lots of Portland talk in this thread. Qrd on Portland? I'm a relatively solitary person and I'm just looking for a cozy blend in with everyone else vibe without people expecting me to try to make friends when they notice I'm a tourist, which seems to be the norm throughout much of the US. (Never been to NYC though)>>2839843I have spent enough time in enough cities to have been around enough homeless people, I can deal with it but I'm a little tired of it. Mainly I don't want to be around homeless nonwhites though (no offense)
>>2839851I know much more about appalachia than Portland. That said, Portland is pretty insular, I don't think anyone would bother you. If you want the full anonymous experience go to DC - half the people are tourists, the people who live there aren't from there, and nobody will say hi to you on the street or acknowledge you existbut um, the blacks are feral
>>2839857>I know much more about appalachia than PortlandQrd on Appalachia? That's on my list, too. I imagine it's cheaper.>insularIn a bad way or a good way? I'm a solitary person but I enjoy people who are at least kind if they have to engage. (Originally from Wisconsin.)>If you want the full anonymous experience go to DC - half the people are tourists, the people who live there aren't from there, and nobody will say hi to you on the street or acknowledge you existIs it expensive?
>>2839859>I imagine it's cheaper.maybe not as cheap as you'd like, especially if you wanna stay somewhere decent, everyone has different tolerances for flophouses >In a bad way or a good way? good if you are solitarywhat I mean is people in pdx kinda seemed to have their own friend group and not go outside that and it was sorta like being in high school and people gossip and know each other's businesslike a big small town but then also people will kinda ignore you if they don't know you and there's not quite the same faux-friendliness you find in appalachia I got chased off a farm todayI saw a sign advertising goat milk products decided to check it out3/4 mile down a slightly sketchy dirt road - don't wanna turn into the wrong place and I forgot the name of the farm so I was just hoping it was rightpull up to a farm, there's a little shack 100 ft up from the main propertydogs are now barking at meall manner of animals are squawkingsign says "wait here we will be out"nothing about hourssome of these peoples are self serve - some aren't it's hard to gauge nobody coming out of the houseget out of the car walk up the steps of the little shed (where I assume the goat products are sold)disembodied voice "hello may I help you"me "oh yeah I wanted to buy some stuff"her "we are closed"*she then repeats that they are closed three times after I apologize and say I didn't know cuz I don't want to get shot in appalachia*they are closed until next tuesday - um great kinda random I guess they don't want my moneyturn around and leave - chased out by guard dogsnot going back there LOL>Is it expensive?dependsthe smithsonian museums are free but everything is behind plexiglass, you have to get searched to enter, and black people stare at you in every room so its not super fun the restaurants vary, honestly the waterfront and trails are more interesting than the city the architecture is bland
>>2839859most people come for monuments, i find them boring its all white marble you get the idea they wanted to recreate the glory of ancient romedc is more about going to the mall and people watching the tourists the actual white house and capitol are just kinda meh its interesting in the way a planned 1970s concrete government city is if you just like being in something totally artificial and weird then it could be fun there's definitely expensive restaurants and fancy bars if you want that>Qrd on Appalachia?there's a million different micro regions there's various parts of ny, pa, md, wv, va, nc, tn, ky, sc, al that all have different things, gorges, waterfalls, vistas, museums, sometimes more unique stuff like old coal mines you can tour, ATV toursbut its realllllllly spread out and you will need weeks to see a lot of it not to mention a decent SUV with proper tires if you come in winter and plan to get off the main highway
>>2839830Seattle is hilly and sits on the Puget Sound so you can feel the water in the air. Portland sits on the Columbia River and is crossed with smaller rivers and has lots of bridges. Twenty years ago Portland and Seattle were two of the best cities in America but they've since been destroyed by leftist policies which prevent the police from stopping petty crime. I haven't spent as much time in Portland but it seems to be the worse of the two. Seattle has plenty of tent cities and homeless junkies but they're relegated to specific parts of the city, whereas in Portland they seem to be everywhere.
>>2840025the police should have better things to do than harass people for minor crimesthe homeless in portland are fucking nothing they are white and well behavedgo to fucking chicago or ny or Atlanta and see how THOSE homeless are
>>2840027Look up Broken Windows Theory.
>>2840028yeah and that's bullshitthere's a reason it's called a theorywe already live in a police state with mass surveillance stop trying to make it worse by emboldening police to enforce minor wrongdoing portland is way way safer than any black filled eastern US city
>>2839810LOL!!!! no such thing
>>2840027>they are white and well behavedI realize this is probably bait but no, they're not. Most of the homeless in Seattle and Portland are not even from the area and about half of them are black. They migrate from all over the country to these cities because the governments are lenient towards vagrancy and public drug use, the climate is mild year round, and there are lots of charities offering handouts.
>>2839810Anywhere white liberals live is going to be free of non-whites.
>>2839828Why are the former Commie states the only ones left one by nonwhites?
>>2839810Bump. This is a high interest topic for me. https://youtu.be/WXy3WHO6qNg?si=hvbN9DzbaSXohgGX
>>2840025Liberals are absolutely destroying this nation.
>>2840038When I was there it was mostly white and they never bothered me except in the usual spare some change stuff. I will take white homeless over southern Blacks any day. Portland isn't bad at all. >because the governments are lenient towards vagrancy maybe they should focus more on low barrier affordable housing
>>2840038Almost all of the PNW homeless are minorities from California. They’re also violent, constantly chase people, steal, shoot up in public, leave needles all over etc. Anyone defending these homeless has never lived in Portland or Seattle.
>>2840103I've lived in Portland. YOU have never lived in a 30+% black eastern American city like Houston or NOLA or Atlanta or DC or Philly. Portland is super nice in comparison!
>>2840114NTA but I've lived in Seattle and Philly. Philly is definitely more violent but it has nothing to do with the homeless, it's because of the 'youth'. That said, Philly doesn't have tent cities under every bridge or junkies pissing and shitting in the street in broad daylight, or at least it didn't when I lived there which was before Krasner got elected DA.
>>2840120maybe they should add more public bathrooms putting those who are on drugs and hearing voices in jail isn't gonna fix anything except cost money to house them without helping them get better
>>2839839Those heartland cities are all big suburbs with a few blocks of commercial development in the historic center.>>2839837Portland OR is 67% White and 5.8% Black. That's about as white as it gets in a sizable American city these days. It's also a city which is keen on alternative forms of transport. Colorado Springs CO is another 500K+ city which retains a White majority. Lately it's been struggling with a crime epidemic, and 95% of the Springs is a sprawling suburb and there are no clusters of tall buildings downtown, so no it doesn't feel like a big city. >>2839834You just pulled that 11% number out of your ass, anon. Look at the fucking census stats. Chattanooga had a 16 per 100K homicide rate in 2023. That's double the US average. >they are pretty tameSoutherners love their blacks and will always jump to their defense when any outsider criticizes them. I can't even say nigra when I visit my sister in North Carolina because she works with a black lady and they are good friends. >>2839851Oregon is quite an anti-social state. You can walk past people on a trail and ignore them, it's not considered rude like in Utah or Michigan where the norm is greeting everyone you pass.
The Denver "big city" scenery. Last time I visited downtown there was a business convention going on, so the streets were full of rich white people with nametags hanging from their collars. Still, I've seen people out on foot in a small Polish city of 50,000.
>>2840114I live in DC, I lived in Portland and Seattle and Portland is the worst of the three. Zero redeeming qualities.
>>2839830Portland and Seattle only seem similar on the surface. The Seattle freeze is real. If you don’t want people talking to you, go to Seattle. If you want more friendliness, PortlandPortlands food scene absolutely BTFO’s Seattle, even the titty bars in Portland give some of the best steak joints in Seattle a run for their money. Seattles bar scene absolutely BTFOs Portlands. Portland is way easier to get around because it’s mostly flat and it’s broken into quadrants. Seattle is a hilly tangle. Portlands homeless are everywhere while Seattles are concentrated into specific areas. Seattles blacks are spread out everywhere while Portlands blacks all live in Gresham. The only blacks in Portland proper are typically young black women going to PSU. Seattle has way more to do and see and actually feels like a city. Portland is really a big town.
>>2839810Agusta Maine, Vero Beach, FL (avoiding Gifford),
Minneapolis is as white as it gets for a big city in the US
>>2839810KekFuck you
Portland is great. Good food, good transit, good walking, good nature. And probably the most affordable west coast city.The homeless are mostly NPCs you just walk past. Their worst aspect is they smell bad and yell. But in six years ive never had any problems with them besides occasionally a bus driver yelling at them not to drag their trash onto the bus, delaying shit. I mean tiny 21yo liberal girls get around town fine whilen high or drunk, any /trv/ anon should be fine too. If you care that much about homeless just dont go to>Downtown park blocks>Chinatown>SE Powell and Foster>East side water ave/under bridges areaThere's not much reason to go to any of this as a tourist though. Eastside has better food than downtown, Powell and Foster are mostly vacant buildings, and there's better nightlife than the central eastside.Just visit a cool eastside boulevard (Interstate Ave, Mississippi, Hawthorne, Belmont, Alberta, etc.) and spend your time there, maybe take a bus to downtown if you really want to. Maybe take a bus to 82nd for some good thai/viet food. But all of Portland is easy to walk around. The only thing on the westside thats that cool is NW 23rd
>>2840300>Just visit a cool eastside boulevardnorth portland seemed pretty cool to me and the alphabet district had some great bars and food
Newport Beach California. You're close to anything you would want to do, but insulated from the crime and the blacks. The Hispanics do come down in the summer, but they stay by the pier and they generally behave or the cops toss them out in minutes. The weather is perfect all year. The beach is amazing. There's a lot of good food. But it's very expensive.
>>2840311yeah alphabet/nw 23rd is cool. n portland is cool like interstate ave but st johns is boring
>>2840354> n portland is cool like interstate ave I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone, ever, describe Interstate as being “cool”, though, George’s Corner bar is pretty cool. Maybe you’re referring to the fact that back in the day, black families warned their kids to never go west of Interstate lest they be beaten senseless.
>>2840561I went to a concert in NOPO and it seemed hip. Granted I didn't spend much time walking aroun the area but I assume if it was black it's gentrified now. I got to meet the artist and they are from Portland. They broke up now, too bad. It was very cool.
>>2840580>I went to a concert in NOPO and it seemed hip. Granted I didn't spend much time walking aroun the area but I assume if it was black it's gentrified now.I suppose it depends on where. Parts of North Portland are extremely gentrified, especially the Mississippi area, with the blacks who used to live there moving to the numbers or Gresham. Other parts of N. Portland are pretty white working class.
>>2840590yeah maybe it was that N Mississippi st or whatever (its been awhile this was 15 years ago)I wish I explored more of the city. East portland was weird.
>>2840592>East portland was weird.Again, a huge area of the city. Inner NE and SE are pretty gentrified and hip. Starts to get more working class in areas once you pass 39th, and gets pretty trashy once you cross 82nd. With all the unpaved streets, parts of outer east Portland look pretty grim.
>>2840607hawthorne - I mean it was very hippie and insular and incestuous in a way I have not experienced before or sinceportland was very strangeand I was there for an unusually wet and cloudy winter - even for pdx - so it was just all clouds and drizzle until early-mid may from late octnice place to visit in late may or september though...
>>2840561no experience with interstate before maybe three years ago but a friend of mine lives off interstate ave and we'd bar hop. theres some good spots near the new seasons.>>2840590no clue where black people live now but i dont think its anywhere in portland proper, i rarely see any unless im near PSU
>>2840707>and we'd bar hop. theres some good spots near the new seasons.Are you thinking N Williams, or Interstate?
>>2840121>putting those who are on drugs and hearing voices in jail isn't gonna fix anything except cost money to house them without helping them get betterwhy are you lying still so obscenelythe ones who want to get better do (I had a 5-year meth habit which took a great toll so I'm speaking from experience)The homeless ones should be collected from the streets and put into modern day concentration camps to work them to death if physically fit or as a 2nd level for testing new drugs after the rats (anyone who refuses gets put into 24 hour solitary) so they're not a net drain on the societyAgain, I know how a drug addict thinks (despite being high-functional all throughout). The pathways have formed after prolonged abuse. And I had good upbringing and some learned skills to combat that.These people need to be brought to the brink of existence (like they rehab meth addicts in Thai) in abject misery under the monks. You have to fully repent for the damage you've caused.
>>2840300Portland is one of my least favorite cities I've ever gone on a vacation to. I've passed through worse cities, but never on vacation. Bad food, ugly women, bad weather, homeless, crime, boring. I was so happy when we got out of the city and back into nature. The parks outside Portland are amazing.
>>2840868if you had bad food in portland thats skill issuei will not pretend the homeless dont suck, and liberals arent annoying,. but with portland i truly think good outweighs the bad.
>>2839815>>2839828That is depressing. I always wanted to visit America but if it's just brown people everywhere it just wouldn't feel like America from Hollywood movies I watched growing up
>>2841230In small town Colorado I can walk along the county highway for an hour and not see a single brown face in a passing vehicle. Everyone on the bus to Denver this morning was white, but once you get out in the metro area, it's a whole different story. I'd say about 20% of the people you see in public around the Denver metro are of European descent (skewed low because white Americans prefer to drive around the city, and thus are rarely seen in public). There was one mentally ill black man, but he was harmless and making baby talk with himself. Just go to Warsaw or some such Eastern European city. Yes you will still notice nonwhites, but they are only 1 in 100, not a majority like in American cities.
>>2840044>Anywhere white liberals live is going to be free of non-whites.What in tardation?
>>2841230Now you know why we keep electing frogposters to undo the damage.
>>2841332There's a stereotype that American right-wingers and Nazis all live in multiracial areas and have brown wives while libtards live in white picket fence ethnoburbs with Aryan wives and kids like Gavin Newsom
>>2841230Go to leftist/liberal areas and you can still experience that. Vermont, Oregon, upstate NY, etc. "Conservative" areas are all overwhelmingly brown. They're also dangerous and have nothing worth seeing or doing, for the most part.
>>2840840based. 100% agree with this post. can anyone tell me about Milwaukie, Or?
>>2841380>Doesn't know about Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota, or Utah.
>>2841376> people effected by thing complain> people not effected by thing complain lessrocket geniuses on 4chin dor org
>>2841690none of which have cool urban centers like OP was looking for though>inb4 Boisefuck Boise
Commenting to reiterate a number of points:If you want an urban area where native whites still constitute the majority of people out-and-about, you probably need to go to Prague, Krakow, or Budapest.In America, you can find yuppie neighborhoods like Logan Square / Bucktown in Chicago that are very white, but they'll be two blocks away from mini-Guadalajara or Mogadishu.The closest "cities" demographically are probably Boise or SLC or something else in the mountain west, but you probably wouldn't get a "big city" feel from those places. Hell, Denver doesn't even have a big city feel to me. And the heckin' nice-arino white homeless people in Seattle have turned feral and angry, I'm sad to say. If you take public transit to get around you have to now be vigilant as to whether the homeless guy mumbling next to you on the train is going to start punching the seat and shit like that. Thankfully our new socialist mayor will expand childcare or some shit like that.
>>2840266wanna hang out sometime?t. dc person
>>2839810Boise is the best you are going to get.
>>2840033'minor wrongdoing'. why not just arrest criminals. this 'minor wrongdoing' ruins this city and prevents people from going places
Boston is an option
>>2840046Because they're still so poor from communism that browns don't get enough gibs to go to them
>>2840121Who care about helping them? I want them out of my hair, first and foremost.Why do lefties act like we have to solve the problem of poverty from the ground up before we can even THINK about asking homeless people to please not camp on our front lawns. It would be so, so easy to fix cities like Portland and San Francisco. In one week you could basically get them back to their glory days. Literally just get rid of all of the bums and flagrant criminals and say that you will be now enforcing the law. It would be so easy.
>>2839810Your best bet might be Boston
>>2839813>>2839824>ChattanoogaLots of nonwhites and violent crime, kind of shocking how much there is for a city of its size. A neighboring suburb, East Ridge, is called the white ghetto.
>>2839810I'd probably look into Montana. Not a lot of non-whites in that state.
Laredo Texas is very white
>>2839810None of them AFAIK, depends on how you define "big city". If you're in New York, embracing the meme can be entertaining. Subway creatures won't fuck with you as long as you don't look like a pushover and avoid stupid places/times/people. >>2841230The America from 80s/90s movies is gone, if it even existed as depicted. Meandering around the ruins and finding remnants of it like grass sticking through cracks in the concrete is rewarding albeit melancholy. >>2841376I'm saving this meme. >>2840290You have to go back. >>2841332New England votes solidly blue and is one of the whitest parts of the country.
>>2844508>>2846360TONS of Asians, including Indians. Has a couple of black neighborhoods too, Mattapan and Jamaica Plain. There is nothing really to see there for anyone visiting so I doubt you'd end up there unless you're driving up 138 for some reason. There are a few neighborhoods that seem to be consistently ultrawealthy white people, which are Seaport and Charlestown, the latter of which is absolutely beautiful and worth visiting. Seaport has a popular concert venue and some other Designated Event AreasTM
>>2840289>Minneapolis >white
>>2841230>it just wouldn't feel like America from Hollywood movies I watched growing upLol no shit dude. Of course whatever kids movies or breezy hollywood flicks you're talking about are going to show a generally pleasant world. If you'd watched some gritty 70s movies like Taxi Driver instead you'd have a more accurate picture
>>2840289>Of those not Hispanic or Latino, 249,581 persons (58.0 percent) were White alone>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis>Minneapolis is as white as it gets for a big city in the US>58%>Minneapolis>white>US>white
>>2839810by the time you get there, it will already be too latehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RBYsQE4Pxb4
Currently day 1 of my Honeymoon in New Orleans and it's definitely an experience. The architecture is beautiful and it absolutely has a totally different vibe than other U.S cities I've visited, even in the south (Been to Knox, Nashville, Charleston, Fayetteville). That being said man the non-white problem here is absurd. I live in New England, and in the sticks. The worst I deal with is homeless and druggies. But our homeless druggies are all white and docile. Every block there's like 3 people who are moving shifty and looked cracked out. My wife is oblivious to most danger and naive so I'm constantly redirecting her and changing direction / sidewalks to avoid any near encounters with literally anybody. Fuck that. Just today there were like 4 black teens who ran up on Bourbon Street as we walking down. Two started arguing and then wailed on eachother for ten seconds in the middle of the street. then the whole group started moving down our sidewalk. My wife was just dumbfounded at the sheer blackness I grabbed her and just shoved her in the closest bar. Bouncer chuckled to himself and I gave a knowing glance. Some spots, bars, are nice. Had a real good time this evening in a small jazz bar, good drinks and vibes. - but the sheer amount of absolutely scumness is so off-putting. It's also crazy how normalized it is to some people. "Oh that's just how cities are". Like, no? The fuck.
>>2846845I did construction work in the North Shore and places like Revere might as well be little Asia. Everyone is Indian and Asian now. For white people heaven check out the rich leafy towns like Concord, Lexington, Carlisle. Then up in the seacoast - Plum Island, Exeter, Newburyport. They're incredibly liberal so you'll see lots of pride flags and democrats, but very little disparity besides the token well-educated minority families. I grew up in a town in Middlesex County and we had one black kid in my entire school who was cool. Most of Mass are basically unintentional segregated towns of wasp liberals who vote for the dumbest policies possible, from their isolated communities, until they inevitably fuck everything up for real people and then they all sell their beautiful land to conglomerates who turn them into condos for immigrants, strip malls, and casinos - They then fuck off to Florida while their grandkids cant afford college.Boston, for what it is, can be very enjoyable and fun. Feel a lot safer walking around that most cities in the south, or places like Lawrence, that's for damn sure. Problem is there's very few genuinely hot women to meet. Always blown away by how much cuter the average girl is anywhere else in the U.S.
Step 1: Invent the time machine
>>2848846>they just expressin theyselvesWestern cuckery is on full display in the cities of America. Whites look at the ground and pretend not to notice the shenanigans around them, because so much as a stern look might trigger a controntation. On the flip side, most American blacks (particularly in the South) are taught by their moms: don't fuck with white people unless they start trouble with you first. So even though American cities are full of smelly, loud, unruly blacks, white American women still feel safe walking around downtown, because the blacks leave them alone.
>>2846845>Jamaica PlainMost of JP is definitely not a black neighborhood, unless you’re talking about the area around Jackson Sq.
>>2848898>white American women still feel safe walking around downtown, because the blacks leave them alone.This tracks. One thing I noticed yesterday was even in some of the worse areas (it varies street to street). I'll still see a lone young white girl waltzing around or a random chick jogging through. Was dumbfounded at the sheer bravado. Maybe I've seen one too many /gif/ threads but I'm generally the head on a swivel type. Another odd thing is that everytime I am in the south some of the best, most polite, and wholesome people I meet are black. Most white people are hit or miss but already I've had some charming conversations and what not. There's just enough quality people that I can see why some out of touch rich white chick would be like "das racist" when you suggest that the contents of their characters may be continental considering it's a 20 to 1 ratio of quality members of society versus upstanding members of society.