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>do digital nomad since start of the year
>map out year through trv threads
>blast for the first 6 months
>go to Philippines get feel sick nearly every day from the smell of car exhaust, poop on side streets, constant lack of hygine
>get really sick and leave after 1 month as it's as bad as what I imagine Detroit is like
>over the past ~6 weeks have had nothing but feeling tired all the time not leaving my airbnb/hotel outside weekends
>get depressed feeling like I am wasting the opportunities I have
>decided to stop after Halloween festivals begin heading home
>3 weeks later feeling more motivated, happy, and going back to the gym again
>ready and eager to go back out but flight prices are mental right now

Why didn't anyone tell me that having a 'home base' to return to is a normal part of this lifestyle? How do you keep yourselves motivated abroad? I feel trying to plan events each month around my travels would be the best bet.
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Maybe don't go to an absolute shithole known as Philippines next time?
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>>2841629
>Why didn't anyone tell me that having a 'home base' to return to is a normal part of this lifestyle?
because it's not!?

returning "home" means something entirely different people
the most common version (especially among young nomads) is that people return home to their parents for 2-3weeks, usually around christmas and new years

keeping a house / apartment in your home country as home base is pretty rare
and more common for people with extended workations (work remotely for a few weeks, return home for at least the same amount before the next departure)

>map out year through trv threads
yeah... I see why you're miserable

>my airbnb/hotel
why don't you have a proper medium term rental?

that's probably part of your problem
you don't want it to feel like a vacation, at least not permanently
your accommodation should feel like home
if you're not on a visa run, stay longer!
I usually aim for 12months, sometime 6 for less interesting places

most older DNs I've met over the years stay even long
2-3y is not uncommon
especially for those nomading for >15y+
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Pretty much the same position. I never bought a place to live in the US though so I don't have a home base. I'm currently wandering around looking for a home base but keep feeling like this isn't the same as a real home base like you feel you're home and you have people in your life. I'm not sure I'd ever have that though. Sometimes wish I did, but... I dunno.
I'm checking out another city elsewhere and will hopefully find this is the good area to just stay for several weeks and recover from burnout.

I also tried Philippines and lasted a monumental 3+ months in manila but was legitimately depressed like half way through and stopped really exploring and talking to people altogether. I cut it short at about 3.5 months after planning to tough out a solid 4 months to give the city it's fair chance but it was just too much.

I gave it its chance and it's shit.

>>2841636
This desu. Lesson learned.
Manila was a spot of curiosity and interest. I don't regret going. I'm glad I had delusions crushed. Reality checks are very valuable.
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>>2841638
So how do you find those medium term places where people stay for so long? Long term easy visa are like 3 months.l then you have to move again.
Philippines was attractive because of the easy visa policy but that just doesn't seem like the best option.
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>>2841636
I did 90 days in Japan, 30 Korea, 45 in Taiwan, 30 Days in Hong Kong, finally got to PH because everyone I know about the Digital Nomad lifestyle raves about how it's a great stop over. I also wanted to just return to speaking English for a change(lol). Worst mistake, I was in Makati everything was dirty even though it rained and a typhoon came through to blow things away. Food was horrible, service was lacking, internet was what I imagine america's is like, people were bothersome.

>>2841638
>why don't you have a proper medium term rental?
It's easier and about the same for me to seek out hotels or Airbnb's, not having to bother with utilities outside the booking is fine with me since I make enough, I pay for convivence and reviewed places. The farther south I got the worse everything got, I guess america has really gone to shit if burgers were praising life in SEA.
>keeping a house / apartment in your home country as home base is pretty rare
Sorry you don't keep friends with your mum and dad back home or lads to rent a room from. If you had no relations with your parents or lads from school or the pub I would see why anywhere would be better.
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>>2841649
>I also wanted to just return to speaking English for a change(lol).
I mean, if you're in SEA and want to speak English just go to Malaysia, it's way more developed than flipland
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>>2841642
>Pretty much the same position
Pretty much what happened. I stayed 3 months in Japan for Tokyo and Kyoto, in about 2 weeks I had knocked off everything I could think of. Most everything in Japan and Korea could be seen in under 90 minutes unless you're fat. The night life is fine but so loud with Americans, Indians, and Chinese all clogging up the place. I just wanted to sit down with a few pints watching the match and got rattled by people screaming indoors. I wanted to enjoy each "mini Akihabara" in cities but it's all the same slop.

>>2841650
Malaysia looks okay but even more boring, if I wanted a muslim speaking english place I'd just go over to London lol. Food probably cleaner.
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>>2841638
>I usually aim for 12months, sometime 6 for less interesting places
Where the hell are you getting 12mo visa's for outside some working holiday exchange or some place like PH where you can just pay the bribe- I mean fee to extend it for years.
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>>2841649
>not having to bother with utilities
most short / medium term rentals do that for you

>since I make enough
it's not about the price / money
it's about the feel the place
airbnbs are almost always tuned for short term stays, and it shows

regular (furnished) apartments are not
also if you stay longer you can decorate the place
just a few hundred € and the place looks a lot more comfy

>Sorry you don't keep friends with your mum and dad back home or lads to rent a room from
???

as I said, it's pretty rare to meet (permanent) DNs that keep apartments in their home country and return there for long periods
a single room, typical at parents / in laws house, is more common
but again, going home is mostly a shortish visit rather than actually living there

>>2841659
>Where the hell are you getting 12mo visa
Schengen (not a visa, just free movement because EU passport) - unlimited
Taiwan - 3y
South Korea - 2y
Turkey - 1y?
a bunch of Caribbean islands like Antigua & Barbuda or Barbados - 1y+
Vietnam - 1y
Brazil - 1y
Colombia - 2y
Ecuador - 2y
Thailand - 5y
Malaysia - 2y
Costa Rica - 2y
Bali - 10y?
Mexico - 4y

I could go on...
most come with with some income requirements, but typically >5k€/month for the past 12month is enough everywhere
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>>2841659
>Where the hell are you getting 12mo visa's for
Georgia, Albania if burger, Cambodia before not sure about current situation. That's not even considering places with 12mo digital nomad visas.
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>>2841673
Half the places you posted are only if you find work there or willing to pay double taxes. Did you just google maximum visa lengths and not read past that? Because the way you type is like a pajeet.

>>2841675
Why would you downgrade to some shithole?
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>>2841673
>airbnbs are almost always tuned for short term stays, and it shows
>regular (furnished) apartments are not
Can you explain the difference? I've never rented a longer term furnished apartment, just unfurnished places when younger and airbnbs now
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>>2841678
Not him but usually finding local rentals gives you a better price because you can haggle and often get slightly lower costs due to rent not going to show up on any tax forms or have the airbnb cut.

The con's are you basically have to go in blind and guess work if the area is good or not. The quality of the building and furniture is a crap shoot and utilities can be a fair price or whatever they say.

I usually lean to airbnb due to it being a far more simple process and I am not from eastern europe/russia/brasil wondering how I can save 3-5 dollars a day overall. Airbnb is kinda nice since as long as you take photos before and after check-in and "bullshit" they try to pull on you, you can simply tell them to take it up with airbnb and they generally side with you. Additionally, some countries have limits on Airbnb terms meaning said person can only lease a place for X months of the year meaning no long term+6 month stays.

It's meaningless if you are visiting under tourist free visa limits as you're rarely going to notice much of a difference. Again personally I will pay the extra 100-120/mo just to have peace of mind regarding check in/check out and quality of the stay verified by others. I've done the haggle thing before in SEA, just not worth the trouble if you have a job.
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>>2841676
>Half the places you posted are only if you find work there or willing to pay double taxes
like?
because I've literally been to like 1/3 of the listed countries with a visa for that long (not that I stayed that long and some are only with extensions)

>pay double taxes
i'm not a mutt who gets slaved by the US IRS
as mentioned I'm from an EU country
and away >183days

also most visas either have generous tax breaks or don't require you to be a tax citizen at all
then there's double taxation agreements, of which my home country basically has one with all popular DN destinations

besides
my company (am a freelancer) is based in an EU country with 0% capital gains tax
so most of my income goes to my asset holding company (for retirement, someday maybe a house) almost tax free anyway
and I only pay out the minimal needed salary
one day I can return and pay it all out, tax free
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>>2841689
Taiwan's 3 year is only if you meet specific education requirements
SK's 2 year digital nomad visa requires you pay a local minimum tax
Mayalsia is the same as SK's
Bali Requires registering a second home for 10y length
Mexico requires an investment proposition
Colombia requires you don't work while in the country
Thailand's now requires you register taxes for staying the length you posted

I've looked them up and all the rules have been changing drastically post covid and massive 1st world work remote
>"not that I stayed that long and some are only with extensions)"
Yeah no shit retard anyone can stay extra with extensions to max out the 120-180 whatever days allowed or ask for a working holiday 1 year program if available.

>not that I stayed that long and some are only with extensions)
Doubt because SK, Malaysia, and Thailand specifically ask you to pay double taxes for work. Seeing how you just googled a bunch of places for maximums you're probably not that informed on anything or reporting stuff right.

>inb4 another eastern euro working max visa limits in a country before hopping never living more than 2x90 or 6/mo at a time acting like hot shit
lmao even yeah dude everyone knows that trick but if you want to do some of the lengths you are allowed you often have to pay a minimum tax
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>>2841692
>SK's 2 year digital nomad visa requires you pay a local minimum tax
you pay regular taxes there
and you need to have a taxable income of ~60k€
i literally stayed in SK until this September

>Taiwan's 3 year is only if you meet specific education requirements
which are laughable low
for most professions you only need a minimum ~4k€ monthly income
a PhD from a non shitty university also instantly qualifies you

>Mexico requires an investment proposition
no it does not!
temporary residence needs just an income somewhere around 2500€/month or like 50k savings
even permanent residency is only a proof of like 250k savings

>Colombia requires you don't work while in the country
Type M visa is EXPLICITLY to work there as remote worker
again, low income / savings requirements that literally anyone who works for EU / US clients meets

>Thailand now requires you register taxes
and?
I don't see the problem unless your home country still taxes you
pay yourself out the minimal needed amount to live or needed for the visa, whichever is higher
and keep the rest in your company until you're somewhere with lower taxes

>you often have to pay a minimum tax
you seem to have a serious problem with taxes
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>>2841696
>i literally stayed in SK until this September
Great and how long were you there for?
>a PhD from a non shitty university also instantly qualifies you
And you have a PHD as well now? Wow what a small requirement

Not even going to bother with the rest since you're obviously just finding niche one of things no one single person can have all of and would still want to travel in DN fashion. Sure maybe there is someone out there but not on 4chan.

You're just a cryptobro with an registered business paying yourself minimum wage to 'consult' or 'financially advise' yourself.
>you seem to have a serious problem with taxes
99% of digital nomads on this board are working as an employee for another company. You're talking about a legal grey area which is going to end up in a whataboutism arguement because the shit country you're from, going off your English anyways, doesn't care to look at some guy running a tax scam.
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>>2841678
>Can you explain the difference?
>I've never rented a longer term furnished apartment,
>just unfurnished places when younger and airbnbs now
a different layout, style and furniture

airbnb living rooms (if there is one) are rarely cozy
furniture is picked to look good on photos, often unpractical and very uniform (like ikea stuff)
small, borderline unusable kitchens
of course that depends a lot on the specific airbnb, but it's the general direction

a big part also comes from decorating the place
which you obviously won't do if you only stay there for a month or two, but you will if you know you'll have to live there for 12months
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>>2841699
>how long were you there for?
a little under 1y, the visa was only introduced in 2024
>And you have a PHD as well now?
no, my spouse does

>you're obviously just finding niche one
like?
name it, don't just complain muh requirements

>no one single person can have all of and would still want to travel in DN fashion
top kek
and bullshit
i literally wrote in my second post that 5k€/month of steady income covers almost every imaginable visa
that's something almost any freelancer working in the EU or US can achieve

>but not on 4chan
only the whole non-student, non neet half on /g/
if they wanted to become self-employed

>You're just a cryptobro with an registered business paying yourself minimum wage to 'consult' or 'financially advise' yourself.
where did I now mention crypto?
i'm in devops

the comment about the companies was only to show that you DON'T have to pay taxes on all your income
you can defer it until you actually need the money

>99% of digital nomads on this board are working as an employee for another company
that's a workation anon
not digital nomading

also most likely not legal

>You're talking about a legal grey area
where? which grey area?
nothing I mentioned is illegal
quite the opposite, i literally describe the official, legal way
instead of abusing tourist visas and lying during immigration

>because the shit country you're from
apparently a better one than you
as I don't have to worry about taxation so neurotically kek
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>>2841699
>Not even going to bother
that's how we all feel about you and your pissy attitude to anybody trying to help you
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>>2841629
>>go to Philippines get feel sick nearly every day from the smell of car exhaust, poop on side streets, constant lack of hygine
the philippines has been a really shitty travel destination to go to for 9-10 years now. people are addicted to social media, and they've always been lazy pieces of shit.

and the scams and rip offs now are out of this world.

and everyone's fat now
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>>2841741
They're also single mothers. That country is an absolute mess.
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>>2841649
>, internet was what I imagine america's is like,
so you're an uneducated turd worlder traveling to other turdworlds and realizing it's a turd? epic
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>>2841629
shouldn't have let the ladyboy top you
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>>2841655
>but even more boring
>gets ass blasted in PH
>ask for more
Bangalore of Dhaka next, do it until you learn. Kuala Lumpur was my base for about a year and offered a super stable base for traveling from.
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>>2841629
Been a nomad for a years, having fun but would be nice to stay somewhere for a year or two (while not paying high local taxes)
>Argentina
>Georgia
Done both. Like them, but not a fan of the political/economic situation in either at the moment.
Not interested in Albania
How's Cambodia? Are Phnom Penh or Siam Reap doable for a year or two? Do I have to worry about internet/electricity if I book a highly-rated/expensive 1 bedroom in the center?
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>>2841866
Ok but how did you base there for a year? Entry visa is only three months.
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>>2841869
I left every three months, times changed recently but one used to be able go visa run like Thailand but I would only every do it once back to back, six months is more than long enough to recharge, two months can I suppose. I also used Croatia, Tanzanzia, and Korea, as base of operations for several months each.

SE Asia has tightened its visa lengths so it may not be as good anymore, Korea has a very good relationship with the US, I would visa run every three months without worry. Otherwise Georgia with it's 1 year long visa. Im currently looking into a long term visa to China. I want "one slop bowl".
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>>2841886
>2 months in Thailand
>2 months in Vietnam
>2 months in Japan/Korea/Taiwan
>do it all over again
shrimple as
>china slop bowl
Enjoy the gutter oil and fried scorpions
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>>2841896
>when you dont even know they exist and they yelp at you when you move like theyre already dying
Ive been living abroad on visas for the last several years, I have enough flight miles to reach the moon. Youre a noob.
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>>2841907
>tripfag
>calling anyone a noob
Get a load of this special snowflake on an anonymous basket-weaving forum
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>>2841914
>special snowflake
Yes.

Anonymous only matteted when the truth was being said, the culture of 4Chan is lying now, not "telling thw based truth".

>>2841896
>2 months in Thailand
>2 months in Vietnam
>2 months in Japan/Korea/Taiwan
>do it all over again
You position the situation for an easy win for you and loss for me by making it retarded, like you, but worse because youre better than equals, because youre a self serving, lying, shitbag who if ever puts a name on....will find out very quickly the board remembers every dumb mistake you make and remind you of it in every single thread you post in.

Put a name on and die a gladiator or shut the fuck up you feckless coward. I was here when we had wavey and colorful fonts, you ARE a noob out of your habitat LARPing youre a native.
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>>2841920
What an autistic attention whore you are
You really think 9x around the Earth gives you any special status here? newfag tripfag kill yourself
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>>2841896
>notice my baseless opinions
>>2841914
>notice my baseless opinions
>>2841922
>notice my baseless opinions

JUST TELL US YOUR NAME ALREADY YOU ATTENTION WHORE NO-/trv/ LARPer. Youre basically pretending to be injured so you have an advantage, that is extremely effeminate, underhanded, behavior. Your opinions are worthless and you are not a real person, just a byproduct of circumstances.
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>>2841629
>go to Philippines feel sick nearly every day
Same thing happened to me. Red Horse, shitty pinoyslop, filthy air, no multivitamins, bad experiences with dishonest people. By the time I left PH my throat was permasore, my digestion was wrecked and I was blasting huge globs of brown bloody snot from my nose on a regular basis. Walking just 2 or 3 km felt so exhausting. I spent the majority of my day bedrotting.

First-timer syndrome. As a rookie traveler you make all the mistakes. Choosing the most talked-about urban destinations (which are NEVER the best places in a country). Getting suckered by scammer "friends". Drinking every day. Eating junk food. Staying in hotels that have awful value for cost.
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>army vet larping drug addict shows up
Well this thread wasn't that good anyways
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>>2841868
>How's Cambodia?
pretty nice
and underrated (unless you're a chinese tourists, A LOT of them)
>Are Phnom Penh or Siam Reap doable for a year or two?
depends on what you expect
it's quite "small"
and certainly has a different vibe than other SEA mega cities
Siam Reap will get boring quickly, would rather visit for a week at a time
>Do I have to worry about internet/electricity if I book a highly-rated/expensive 1 bedroom in the center?
when I was there, they still had rolling blackouts
but I also had a house with solar+battery, so unless I was being out I was spared
interestingly enough, internet always still worked
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>>2841931
oh forgot to mention the fucking heat and humidity
it felt worse than Thailand
also the main reason why I left (SEA)

if you never stayed for longer / worked in SEA
you should try for a short time first before committing for longer
it will be a lot different from Argentina / Georgia
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>>2841930
Im going to Bali next.

Everything in your life sucks and is broken but that doesnt mean everyone thats doing better than you is trying to "keep you down". In fact your reaction to your own feelings is the very reason your life is shit...instead of rising, you bring others down to feel less inferior...you literally removed yourself from the solution to your own problem!

You need help...in real life, posts are irrelevent.
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>>2841629
>How do you keep yourselves motivated abroad?
Not moving so much, returning to a home with all my shit in it, making long term friends in the places I go and never wasting time with travellers or larping meme'ads.
At this point after 6+ years on the road I've seen nearly all of Asia and am only happy going back to a few places 3 months at a time. Have a place in Malaysia long term and rent it out while I'm gone.
For me these days I'd rank it: Bangkok > Taipei > Osaka > HCMC and don't really go anywhere else except for a few days diving/snorkelling.
>>>2841922
Kek, so much seethe
>>2841868
>>2841931
Cambodia would surely wear on someone after a few months let alone a year.
The poverty is unreal. PP is a fucking shithole that makes the Philippines look good too. I noped out of SR after a month and have no urge to ever return despite how cheap it is.
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>>2841930
Kek is this confirmed?
I saw the tripfag gloating before about how he was the most traveled poster on this board. Now that I've seen him confirm he's only been around the world 9x I can't help but lol. I average about 1x a year just going back and forth between Western Europe and East Asia and I've been doing this for 15 years. I don't even consider myself particularly well-traveled, just average. What a massive faggot lmao
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>>2841931
>rolling blackouts
When did you go? I fucking hate working and dealing with blackouts. I usually spend more than I should on rentals just to avoid that shit.
>>2841946
I'm in HCMC now. If PP is so poor, can't you just spend your way out of having a shit time? That's what I do when I go to Colombia
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>>2841946
>The poverty is unreal
it's poor for SEA
but really not that bad
and does / feels quite fine compared to countries of similar wealth like Kenya or Ghana

but yeah if you come from traveling Europe, Japan, SK etc. it might be overwhelming

>makes the Philippines look good
i think it's pretty similar outside the manila metro area
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>>2841952
>just going back and forth between Western Europe and East Asia
>and I've been doing this for 15 years
Reminds me of a guy that bragged about a shitton number of flights a year but they were all from Kuala Lumpur to Saigon or something, so it sounded super impressive but its not.
>I don't even consider myself particularly well-traveled.
Because youre not.
>just average.
No, these days exotic travel is common, youre a fucking commoner like every other asshat you know.
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>>2841960
9x isn't impressive at all. I'm well over that in my mid-thirties. You're not special or well-traveled. Cope tripfag attention whote
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>I'm well over that
Sure bud, because of your job as a freelance Navy SEAL, right?
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>>2841952
He posts on /sci/ a lot about his manifesting things and PhD. He is DV and "lives" off 4k/mo because of it, however he's a retard and has gone on multiple drunken/drug benders admitting he has basically insane debt think taking out multiple multiple credit cards to do anything. Has talked about how when he finally is dropped by CC's he'll an hero.

Oh he also went to Pakistan to larp as a wanna be Lord Miles, which consisted of him going up to a tourist camp meeting some patrol that had AK's and thought they were terrorists "like the one he use to kill".

You can look up his trip throughout the site he mainly posts in sci tho
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>>2841979
>about his manifesting things and PhD
No. You believe in magic and other delusional bullshit, like youre of sound mind or charactet to judge anyone while spewing lies and vitrol like while LARPing the moral highground. If you wish to discuss STEM topics, bring citations, not "ego-emotional-psycho-social-sexual-frustrations".

[This is where I read the rest of your post...]

Youre transparent as shit. A bunch of fanfic you LARP as an (((expert's say))) with.
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>>2841974
Remote video editing, actually
>>2841979
KWAB. I'd probably be a degenerate junkie too if I debt-maxed and had no future
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>>2841994
Sure bud.
>>2841994
>KWAB
You then believe some rando's bullshit story like youre best buds? Yeah, youre SUPER gunuine and actually anything you say you are...
[teenage tier eye roll]

Grow the fuck up, youre LARPing on the internet to feel less inferior like woman or homosexual.
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>>2841629
Go to Spain or Japan, not some poorfag /trv/ shithole
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>>2842027
>Spain
Portugal. Its better in every way.
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>>2841958
>When did you go?
2018 and 2023

>I fucking hate working and dealing with blackouts
i think it got better now though
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>>2841689
>because I've literally been to like 1/3 of the listed countries with a visa for that long (not that I stayed that long and some are only with extensions)
>i literally stayed in SK until this September
So you've never stayed that long but did in, okay Sven

>my company (am a freelancer) is based in an EU country with 0% capital gains tax
>I don't see the problem unless your home country still taxes you
>pay yourself out the minimal needed amount to live or needed for the visa, whichever is higher
Yes this is a legal grey area, you're "freelance" I guarantee you is being unreported or misreported in a manner you're just not important enough to investigate (yet). Most people aren't going to jump through these loopholes especially in the USA since taxes are low given the income gains to do so. You're using the word salad of /biz/ to be a "financial consultant" or some other BS where once a month you might tell a friend to pump or dump a shitcoin.

For most people like it was stated, it's easiest for people to do the 90/180 stays and hop. Even then the burnout is real, just go home for 3 months go back to being normal and then fuck around. It's not a contest to be abroad 100% of the time.
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>>2842180
>the burnout is real, just go home for 3 months go back to being normal and then fuck around. It's not a contest to be abroad 100% of the time.
So just go to short term accomodations in the US where it's known to be shitty and expensive.
Not everyone has family or friends to stay with at "home" and didn't buy a place to go back to. Maintaining a rental while you're out is entirely a waste of money.
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>>2842322
>Maintaining a rental while you're out is entirely a waste of money.

Yeah thats dumb I'm not wasting $25,000 on rent in the US . Lmao anyway who gets burned out? Just get a place by the beach for a month and relax i can do that in a better place than shithole America
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>>2842322
>Maintaining a rental while you're out is entirely a waste of money.
I mean debatable, I know places in the midwest that can be like 450 a month. That's to store all your shit and maybe even run a personal VPN server. I looked at a uhaul unit that was termpature controlled and it would have been around 150-175 total. That's nearing 50% of just getting an apartment that also gives you a good address for work shit. I get it's a 6k "loss" to do so but again you need to store your things somewhere.
>inb4 I don't have anything
lmao imagine being this boring
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>>2841958
>>2841959
>Just pay more
>Same elsewhere
Nah it's not really that type of place
I can handle most shit but it's all the beggars without arms and legs
Unless you stay home all day it's impossible to avoid and I'm usually fine with rampant poverty
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>>2841938
Why Bali when you have thousands of other Indonesian islands to choose from?
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>>2842338
>Midwest $450
My upmarket 3bed apartment in KL is $450 with pool/gym/spa
Can easily rent it out most of the year for more so costs basically nothing to store my shit there, Euro lass I know has been back and taken it for a month each year, few other friends have their families visit, otherwise airbnb but try to avoid the hassle of people I can't meet first
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>>2841629
>>map out year through trv threads
>Why didn't anyone tell me that having a 'home base' to return to is a normal part of this lifestyle?
I've never been a DN and even I know this just from osmosis. Come on man.
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>>2842362
>upmarket 3bed apartment in KL is $450 with pool/gym/spa
>when I use Airbnb in KL it's about 1-1.2k per month for a pretty good 1bed
God damn it I'm so jealous of people ballsy enough to get great deals like this.
Do you just sign a year lease and still only come and go from the country with 90day tourist stamps?
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>>2842338
>you need to store your things somewhere.

So $10,000 a year plus travel costs back to a place you dont want to be to store things you dont need or want

Just stay in shithole USA then, no thanks
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>>2842376
>I've never been a DN and even

Ah yes the expert who has never done thing, classic incel thinking
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>>2842338
My storage unit with all my useless shit including a motorcycle is under $100 per month in a suburb of a major US city.
>middle America
Ok that's cool you find such cheap apartments but I still wouldn't consider that worth it since I don't fucking want to be there. Going home to there would just fill me with dread again.
Anywhere in America sort of worth being is like $1500 per month minimum.
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>>2842382
Very cool literacy
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>>2842377
>sign a year lease
I did, and it has to be signed by a local Malaysian too. $500 a month for a spacious condo outside the city center, had 24 hour gym across the street and the building was connected to the rail system. Every three months I would either tour somewhere else around the world or do a quick visit to Thailand or something for a couple weeks.

The new visa rules with all of these countries sucks now, theyre all tightening the regulations.
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>>2842389
Weather there is oppressive, not worth it unless you are a hermit
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>>2842391
Croatia was pretty simple, just need to open a local bank account to start a long term visa process.

>>2842359
Im so glad I picked it, there are tons of brunchy hipster coffee places there, and a ricepatty bungalow is like $500 a month, I may hit that up. Im going there for "work", not "tourism".
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>>2842384
There are a lot of beautiful towns in states like Wisconsin. Boring, yes. But they are still beautiful (big trees, clean water, plentiful wildlife) and full of kind people who will welcome you back warmly. It feels good to come back to such a place after months amidst the hectic commerce and squalid ugly buildings of the developing world, eating cheap restaurant food and enduring relentless traffic noise.
>>2842391
>ermagerd this humidity is unbearable!
Fattie detected. There's absolutely nothing wrong or even uncomfortable about working up a good sweat on your twice-daily 5 km walk around town.
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>>2842384
You need understand some people go back home for various reasons, 450/mo is like <6k/yr. Personally, I usually go back home for 4 months a year, luckily my friend has a 5br house I can crash in an extra guest room for but not everyone has that option. If you look at short term leases they eat your ass with fees and such, it's seriously not uncommon for an apartment to be a 100% markup per month on anything less than a 6 month lease, not to mention all the time and energy doing utilities. It's also a good backup plan in case of job loss, it's stupidly hard to get an apartment without some form of job even if you can pay the lease upfront in full.

>inb4 why even go back home
People have their reasons, I know some IT people who at beginning of the financial year need to do IRL meetings or have to recertify things. Some people just want to take a break and sort some shit out. Honestly, if I were to sit my ass down in the midwest for a few months at a time it would probably do me a lot to appreciate where I travel to and sights I see. Maybe it's just me but there are times a lot of shit just starts to blend together and I am like "Oh yeah cool I guess neat important <thing> seen a dozen important things last month...".
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>>2842389
Shut up you dumb ware hero vet wanna be you did not, 500/mo is the going rate in KL for airbnb's.
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>>2842377
So yeah that started on tourist visas only, never had any issues at KL but flying into Penang once they harassed the shit out me for being on my theirs third 3 month entry for the year, started going away for longer after that.
Airbnb is a scam in Asia man, you're paying a massive lazy tax, but monthly rentals aren't that easy to find otherwise in KL so understand why people do it.
You have to understand that many Malaysian rentals usually openly require stuff like no Africans, no Indians, it's fucked up but how it is. Renting on Airbnb they can't do that so obviously want more for the risk they run.
A lot of the African drug dealers and pimps use Airbnb's now because it's very hard for them to rent a decent place in KL even if they pay upfrontm
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>>2843883
>If you look at short term leases they eat your ass with fees and such, it's seriously not uncommon for an apartment to be a 100% markup per month on anything less than a 6 month lease, not to mention all the time and energy doing utilities. It's also a good backup plan in case of job loss, it's stupidly hard to get an apartment without some form of job even if you can pay the lease upfront in full.
That's exactly the position I'm in. I got laid off almost two years ago and wouldn't even mind coming back to America for a while, but like you said short term stuff is bullshit expensive for what you get, and people play these games regarding jobs and income so even though I could probably buy their apartment outright I still can't rent because I don't have job income.
I can't really come back to America unless I get another high stress tech job because of the bullshit prices, but I don't fucking want to. Working is a joke. So im stuck in exile abroad until I decide I want to eat shit from corporate rats and hate my life again.
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>>2844211
Oh that's interesting lol.
Maybe I'll have to try asking around and doing foot work for monthly rentals then next time I'm there to see what I come across.
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>>2844075
>econo-box
This is the opposite of what I leased. I had a cool walk in shower with stone walls and it poured from straing above, a full kitchen and living room, a little balcony.
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>>2844222
It's not as easy as Thailand or Vietnam for sure but definitely exists.
Maybe message some real estate agents. I had one show me 3 different places. Malaysia is completely oversupplied for apartments
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>>2844228
Vietnam is easy? Maybe I'm just a lazy retard for using Airbnb in Vietnam as well.
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>>2844235
Basically move in on the day stuff in Da Nang. Was a bit more effort in Saigon due to distance and heat but found a place in 2 days. You've just got to go ask in person, it's annoying but worth it in the end. Online is a mess and waste of time.
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>>2844227
>renting a room
Couldn't be me
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>>2844221
Yup, looking at apartments back home for a 4ish month lease, I am getting asked 1500-1900/mo.Just pick a place in the midwest, store all your shit, and roll out.
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>>2842381
>So $10,000 a year plus travel costs back to a place you dont want to be to store things you dont need or want
I dunno what others do but my job requires me to have a US address for work, have my benefits, taxes, and other shit. Maybe others are lucky and can just bank off their parents into their 30's for that shit, but I am not that lucky.

I pay about 550-575/mo for an apartment+all utilities, I consider that a fair price to store all my thing security and temperature controlled, all while having my own VPN setup and remote PC I can login to any time for work. My laptop breaks? RIP, can just go grab a cheap POS and RDP back into my home machine picking up more or less exactly where I left off. I don't need to worry about work wondering what my NordVPN IP is and why I use it or anything like that, if my job goes south I can just fly back home on the points I have from my CC. I have about 25k emergency fund so I can, live a year or two if anything were to happen. It's really hard to get an apartment if you don't have regular employment.

Am I losing money? Sure, but the 7k/yr I spend on maintaining it my lifestyle having lower taxes due to my state, a place to fall back to, and company paid healthcare balances it out.
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>>2846590
You're making me jealous. Do want.
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>>2841696

Nobody is paying taxes in Thailand. I'm on DTV.
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>>2846908
How is that going to work when you're own govt wants to know where you paid taxes for these years?
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>>2846989
I'm not a tax resident of my country so I don't give a fuck
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>>2847000
based evader
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>>2847000
>inb4 FEIE anon
>inb4 doesn't realize he still has to file or pay state taxes for where he's located as per his work or business registered in
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>>2846989
You can, as a US citizen file for an FEIE tax exemption if out of the country for +330 days of the year meaning federal taxes can be exempt/refunded to you assuming you make under 130k/yr.

Usually, they won't contact your company but as digital nomad is now a well-known norm an audit is going to more than likely happen meaning:
You'll need to be able to provide proof to the IRS you were out of the country in Passport checks and booking checks
You're company (if not self-employed) might be contacted to know if X was actually overseas for work for Y times
Everything you paid/didn't pay will be re-examined and need to be paid within X days or IRS will fuck your ass

It's entirely possible to skip federal taxes while abroad, but you're going to need to have an accountant or the like in order to let you know you're getting audited if abroad for extended periods of time. Coming back into the USA with back taxes owed after years of not paying is a great way to have your shit flagged and pulled aside.
>inb4 nuh uh
I've seen them do it to some people for child support and it happens all the time
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>>2847009
I'm not a muttmerican, also all my income comes from another country which, conveniently, has no income tax
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>>2847000
>Acting tough on 4chan - the vagina of the internet
Enjoy getting raped by accountants you dumb fuck
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>>2847016
So you live in one of like 12 countries while also working for a different country within those 12 countries with no personal income tax. Sure anon, very cool. You are clearly the normal individual.
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>>2847000
>I'm not a tax resident of my country
The number of retards who say this with absolutely no professional advice always crack me up.
You are a tax resident somewhere, so where is that?
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>>2847154
It's 100% going to be one of those "well you see I don't and haven't lived in the country I am a citizen in so I have no need to file tax!": source chatgpt and reddit!

Brother of my coworker did that shit for years with that mindset in Australia, broke an arm and went to hospital, they realized what he was doing and sent him back on the plane as soon as we was cleared by doctors. Got home was up to his eyeballs in late fees, tax charges, and so much more he never could/can recover. Reminds me of the Sovereign Citizen crap you see the mutts do in America.
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Anyone ever switch from FTE to contractor? I’m a learn2code fag that works remote. Company is okay with me working abroad half the year. But I have to come back to make sure I maintain residency for tax purposes. Thinking about making the switch and potentially start my own consultancy company in the states.
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>>2842322
>So just go to short term accomodations in the US where it's known to be shitty and expensive.
Doing less than a 12-month lease is a guaranteed way to get the pricing fucked on your lease agreement. I remember looking for a 6-month lease to do 6 home and 6 abroad. The rent I would be charged was like 80-85% of just paying a year. Just move to the midwest SD and TX have favorable tax laws, grab a cheap 400-500/mo studio and be done like other anons have. Last place I looked that had decent 6 month leases they wanted to charge me like 1500/mo and wouldn't go any lower than 6/mo.

And yes, I looked up some of those extra-long stay hotels like Extended stay(and prefurnished apartments) in the US. For anywhere worth a damn I was looking at minimum of 1300/mo. 1300x6 =7800 so it's just not worth it, especially after you need to PO box bullshit and other crap to deal with it just is hassle. Airbnb would be nice but it's gigafucked in the USA for month-to-month.

>>2846594
That's basically what truck drivers do, they rent some small shack and just bank cash during the crunch seasons fucking off whenever. Problem is most CDL pays so good that most who would do 6mo on/6mo off end up just buying a home somewhere in the midwest.
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>>2846590
>I pay about 550-575/mo for an apartment+all utilities
Where?
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>>2848226
>Airbnb would be nice but it's gigafucked in the USA for month-to-month.
Why do you say this?
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>>2848323
Go look at airbnb prices for month-to-month style renting and get back to me.

Places you would like to be during winter in the USA are insanely priced with many places being just private bedroom/shared living space. Maybe it's because I often look at the American South West but man those prices go up quick to 1500/mo for something decent.

>>2848321
NTA but you can easily get those prices in North Dakota, wouldn't suprise me if South Dakota was the same and other parts of the midwest had deals like that. Des Moines has a bunch of 450-600 dollar places around Altoona, best to use facebook market place for those deals though.
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>>2841649
Yeah I visit my parents, but I don't have the entitlement mentality to claim their house as my home base and stay there for more than a few days at a time.



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